Not only is Andrew extremely knowledgeable but he’s able to tap that knowledge very quickly and effectively communicate that knowledge. Definitely an asset as strong as the JCB.
Your aggaronmist seems to be very knowledgeable about how to make your seed more aggressive and possibly more money in the bank. Great video Ryan. Thanks for sharing....
thanks for shareing things are looking good haveing a great year so far everythings growing hope you have the best harvest record for your area any way god bless
miss Andrew on the tube :-/ always soooo interesting even though i'm not a farmer. but i guess he's already got more than enough work with his 'real' job and making videos just takes a lot of time.
Try to control as many variables as possible, but cannot control the biggest and most influential variable of all-- the weather. Rainfall and temperature probably the two biggest contributors to emergence and early growth. When I was right out of high school and working for United Gas Pipe Line Company, I passed a field of cotton someone had planted REAL early, probably going for the "first bale in the county" title, which gets you in the newspaper and sell it for about 2x the going price so the buyer can get in the paper too. Anyway, we'd had a little warm/dry weather spell but it was still awful early... I was still doing preplant field work to get ready because it WAS so early. Well it popped up fairly quick, BUT then we got a typical spell of cold, wet weather. Cotton DOES NOT like cold weather... in fact the growing degree days are measured 10 degrees higher than corn (DD-60's vs. DD-50's) because basically at 60 degrees, cotton stops all growth and just goes into a holding pattern. That cold wet weather pattern continued unabated for the next 2 weeks... It finally broke and after a week it was dry enough to plant, so I put the seed in the ground. A week later the cotton was up and off and running with the warm sunny conditions and excellent soil moisture-- it'd come up in three days after planting! The following week I looked at my cotton it was already at the second true leaf stage (Cotton is a dicot like soybeans, so the first two leaves are cotyledons, the first true leaf is invariably "heart shaped" and emerges between the two cotyledons, and then the second true leaf will be the typical "maple leaf" five-pointed leaf typical of cotton.) Mine was at the second true leaf stage about 10 days after emergence. The other field planted 5 weeks before, was at the SAME GROWTH STAGE-- second true leaf! It had just been in a holding pattern for the previous month waiting for the cold and wet weather to pass... Of course it didn't do very well either, it was behind from then on the rest of the season, despite being planted earlier. I know looking at it I made a higher yield and basically it all got harvested within about a week of each other, maybe less since it was a few days before I drove by that field and it was harvested sometime in that period between times I drove by it, probably over the weekend. SO, you never can tell... Grandma told the story of one year back in the 50's when it rained SO MUCH it was the end of May and they STILL hadn't planted any cotton; it wouldn't stop raining long enough to! Usually cotton would go in by the middle of April, so six weeks late. Anyway, Grandpa put the 2 row planter on the 8N Ford and started "mudding" the seed in. I mean the clay was SO wet and sticky it wouldn't even really close the furrow behind the planter-- some seed was laying on the surface of the ground on the mud! BUT, it came up pretty fast and took off, hit the ground running. The neighbors (her sister and inlaws) waited another week or two for drier conditions to plant. It came up, but then it got hot and dry a little later during blooming... Grandpa made 3.5 bales/acre that year because his was done blooming and had pretty well filled the bolls, while the later planted stuff was JUST going into bloom in the hot/dry weather. so they ended up with 0.5 bale per acre... Just goes to show what the weather can do... OL J R :)
Would be really interesting come fall if there's a yield gain for the cost of the extra micros. We use starter around here to. But can't see any more yield or dryer corn.
I am surprised that photos were not used to document each finding. For Andrew, he sees these patterns every day. But, for Ryan, to have documented records would be useful for following years.
Fascinating stuff - plenty of ag tech there. And my goodness, anyone can see the difference in roots between the starter and non-starter. Looking forward to the follow up on how the yield varies. Andrew - you noted the difference in the row closing between the HFW planter and your planter - the slight ridge vs flat and smooth. How's that affect things? Not a farmer here and I wonder how much of a difference such a slight (to this untrained eye) difference is smoothness of the ground will make? Is it a depth control thing? Or?
The main difference is when you leave air pockets around the seed you can get uneven germination. A corn plant that germinates/emerges late won’t be able to compete with larger corn plants and you end up with smaller ears and lower yield. Furrowforce gets rid of those air pockets/ridges
Thx. I'd picked up that equal emergence was critical for the reason you stated. On the learn something new everyday side - the closing leaving, or not, air pockets influencing emergence. I find it fascinating how much science and attention to detail is in modern agriculture - such a small detail as getting the closing right. How far agriculture has come since the days before Norman Borlaug kicked off the green revolution. Humanity thanks him and all others like him working to increase food supply.
Yeah that's the question I had too... when he was ticking off all the stuff in that "black mix" or whatever he called it in the planting video, I was hearing "Cha-CHING!" $$$$$ cash register noises in my head! I'm very curious how much it actually cost for the materials and what the breakeven ROI is... OL J R :)
And also Ryan what’s the ages of all the buildings and houses on all farms ?? And would u ever build a new house of barn or shed if so where tell in video please thanks I trying to give you video ideas plus I would like to know I like history like when did the farms get hydro back then and when were horses used on the farms and old pictures of the farms stuff like that please do a long video on the history of all the farms and have your brother and dad in the video also and maybe your mom and sister ?? History like back to the 1800’s or so from today like when did your grandfather buy the main farm and so on
Hey Ryan please do a video of all the animals cows. Chickens and dogs cats and pigs if there is any but I don’t think you have any pigs but show us the chicken coop also please
I really haven’t seen much positive data on that product and many similar products to what you’re referring to cause issues with flow meters and filter systems.
Fish emulsion is a biproduct of the fishing industry, so it should be cheaper. AGGRAND which was part of AMSOIL has the special sprayer with a 6 meter width with two tanks(one product and one water with 40:1 ratio) still at Winter Street in Superior Wisconsin. Product was dropped in favor of Synthetic oil. It had 25% more yield and had the benifit of repelling ground rodents because of fish blood in the product.
You really have to say what date is cause. Corn is up not farmer but they ask. Me what see can't say pavement but grew up farming trucking so I do watch. Plz just say date eastern MN this past week sun 23 had 3.5 Thurs till today much needed but not all at once
What's BS about it?? He makes valid points about the emergence and how it affects yield, BUT the real question is, what is the "lesson learned" here?? IMHO it shows you can "control" almost every variable in planting except the biggest two-- rainfall and temperature. He even said that stuff planted a few days before actually did better because it could make use of the warm spell when they were planting this, since it was germinating and growing toward emerging from the soil. They waited a few days for the warmer weather to plant, then it turned cooler and wetter and so it set things back. Even with all the extra technology on the planter, there's STILL variability in the emergence-- hard spots or dry spots or cool spots in the soil makes HUGE difference to when it sprouts and how long to emergence. While the high-tech planter can "read conditions" via the "smart firmers" on the go and make adjustments to the planter downforce, closing downforce, seeding rates, etc. it STILL doesn't "eliminate" the variability... oh it HELPS with it, but it doesn't and NEVER CAN "*eliminate*" it! It shows particularly well in tough emergence conditions, which he said this was "the toughest emergence conditions I've ever seen". In perfect conditions yeah the high-tech planter would have done a near-perfect job... but then there would be little difference between it and a regular low-tech planter EITHER, particularly if it was in good shape and being operated correctly! AND keeping a machine like a planter in tip-top shape and OPERATING IT CORRECTLY is 90% of the job it will do in the end ANYWAY! It's like the guys around here I see who think if they just buy a brand new baler and mo-co and rakes they'll make perfect hay... don't forget the old axiom "garbage in, garbage out"... IOW you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. IOW the best equipment in the world can't turn a crummy forage into top-notch hay. AND, as a book of my Grandpa's I found from the 50's states, "hay is at the highest quality it will EVER BE at the moment it is cut-- it's all downhill from there." IOW the trick is to MINIMIZE the damage and losses that occur during the cutting, drying, raking, curing, and baling process to maintain AS MUCH OF THE INITIAL QUALITY as is realistically possible. The book also points out that you can't make top quality hay from over-ripe or poor quality forage, BUT on the other hand you CAN take even the BEST quality forage and, through mishandling it during the haymaking process, turn it into low-quality forage in the bale due to factors like getting it rained on, sunburn or sun-bleached, raking when it's too dry (ie just before baling like 90% of guys do today) and crushing most of the leaves to dust and losing them (and 90% of the feed value is in the leaves), etc. Now you're saying 'what has that got to do with a PLANTING video"?? Well, it's the same principle... you can control every variable to the extent possible, and it STILL not be 'perfect' and end up with a questionable result if the weather and temperature doesn't cooperate. It all comes down to a guessing game in the end-- do you believe the weatherman, or not? Does he know what he's talking about or not? May have the best weatherman on the planet and if some minor variable in the weather system changes, it won't come out like they thought it would. So it all comes down to rolling the dice in the end anyway! This "use technology to control everything possible" is kind of an illusion. Yeah we can use tech to improve the job we do, and to minimize the influence of as many variables as possible, but we CANNOT achieve total control, and in bad conditions like he's showing, the tech helps but doesn't eliminate the problems that the "regular planter" had, and you have to ask the legitimate question "at what cost" since that directly affects profitability, and without profit a crop isn't worth growing honestly. Bills still have to be paid. Of course the converse is also true-- in perfect conditions, the high tech machine will do a terrific job, but the regular planter will do a great job too if it's well maintained, set up, and run right. SO it comes down to cost and goals and profitability, which again is affected by many variables from year to year and many are totally beyond the scope of being controllable. To sum up, no matter how good the technology or genetics or anything else, you're STILL going to have good years and bad years simply due to the vagaries of the weather and conditions... OL J R :)
Not only is Andrew extremely knowledgeable but he’s able to tap that knowledge very quickly and effectively communicate that knowledge. Definitely an asset as strong as the JCB.
Andrew's always a great guest on your videos . He's a fantastic teacher Wisconsin's lucky to have him thanks for sharing
Agree 100%
I’m not a farmer, but I really enjoy learning about agronomy. It seems very interesting
Yep always something new to learn! OL J R :)
Really good information. Getting rain and heat now. Corn, beans, and hay really taking off. Hopefully another good growing season ahead.
Farmers with flags, this should be a TV show.
Glad you guys got some rain
Your aggaronmist seems to be very knowledgeable about how to make your seed more aggressive and possibly more money in the bank. Great video Ryan. Thanks for sharing....
That is pretty interesting👍😉 hope to see some good yields this fall😁👍
Its amazing how much knowledge and work it takes to know what ur doing in a field i don't think farmers get the credit that they deserve
great video ryan looks like alot of work flagging for sure thumbs up and shared
thanks for shareing things are looking good haveing a great year so far everythings growing hope you have the best harvest record for your area any way god bless
Good Monday Morning from New Zealand, Great How farms work Video, Thanks for sharing, have a great week
miss Andrew on the tube :-/ always soooo interesting even though i'm not a farmer. but i guess he's already got more than enough work with his 'real' job and making videos just takes a lot of time.
Thanks for the update Ryan 👍
Hi from Wisconsin (other side)
Very interesting video , best of luck for the rest of the season
I learned a little. Thank you.
A lot of great information, learned a lot on this video. Good job Ryan.
Glad it was helpful!
excellent viedo to show 'you don't throw a few seeds out' and instant 'crops'
Great awesome video Ryan , Andrew
Hey Ryan!! Hope the corn is doing better. Been a crazy weather year so far.
Very interesting video Andrew was very informative an I was all ears.
U got a great guy there Ryan great video thank you so much
Can you do a farm tour of your equipment and such?
good video man good content enjoyed
Great. Video. Great learning video
Try to control as many variables as possible, but cannot control the biggest and most influential variable of all-- the weather. Rainfall and temperature probably the two biggest contributors to emergence and early growth.
When I was right out of high school and working for United Gas Pipe Line Company, I passed a field of cotton someone had planted REAL early, probably going for the "first bale in the county" title, which gets you in the newspaper and sell it for about 2x the going price so the buyer can get in the paper too. Anyway, we'd had a little warm/dry weather spell but it was still awful early... I was still doing preplant field work to get ready because it WAS so early. Well it popped up fairly quick, BUT then we got a typical spell of cold, wet weather. Cotton DOES NOT like cold weather... in fact the growing degree days are measured 10 degrees higher than corn (DD-60's vs. DD-50's) because basically at 60 degrees, cotton stops all growth and just goes into a holding pattern. That cold wet weather pattern continued unabated for the next 2 weeks... It finally broke and after a week it was dry enough to plant, so I put the seed in the ground. A week later the cotton was up and off and running with the warm sunny conditions and excellent soil moisture-- it'd come up in three days after planting! The following week I looked at my cotton it was already at the second true leaf stage (Cotton is a dicot like soybeans, so the first two leaves are cotyledons, the first true leaf is invariably "heart shaped" and emerges between the two cotyledons, and then the second true leaf will be the typical "maple leaf" five-pointed leaf typical of cotton.) Mine was at the second true leaf stage about 10 days after emergence. The other field planted 5 weeks before, was at the SAME GROWTH STAGE-- second true leaf! It had just been in a holding pattern for the previous month waiting for the cold and wet weather to pass... Of course it didn't do very well either, it was behind from then on the rest of the season, despite being planted earlier. I know looking at it I made a higher yield and basically it all got harvested within about a week of each other, maybe less since it was a few days before I drove by that field and it was harvested sometime in that period between times I drove by it, probably over the weekend.
SO, you never can tell... Grandma told the story of one year back in the 50's when it rained SO MUCH it was the end of May and they STILL hadn't planted any cotton; it wouldn't stop raining long enough to! Usually cotton would go in by the middle of April, so six weeks late. Anyway, Grandpa put the 2 row planter on the 8N Ford and started "mudding" the seed in. I mean the clay was SO wet and sticky it wouldn't even really close the furrow behind the planter-- some seed was laying on the surface of the ground on the mud! BUT, it came up pretty fast and took off, hit the ground running. The neighbors (her sister and inlaws) waited another week or two for drier conditions to plant. It came up, but then it got hot and dry a little later during blooming... Grandpa made 3.5 bales/acre that year because his was done blooming and had pretty well filled the bolls, while the later planted stuff was JUST going into bloom in the hot/dry weather. so they ended up with 0.5 bale per acre...
Just goes to show what the weather can do... OL J R :)
Would be really interesting come fall if there's a yield gain for the cost of the extra micros. We use starter around here to. But can't see any more yield or dryer corn.
Yep no practice is worth the cost of doing if it doesn't improve yield or crop condition, or make more profit over the cost of doing it... OL J R :)
I am surprised that photos were not used to document each finding. For Andrew, he sees these patterns every day. But, for Ryan, to have documented records would be useful for following years.
Was that an emergence marking kit from Precision Planting? Are the soil types pretty much the same in your area or do they differ?
Great stuff Men, Andrew sure knows his stuff:):)
Another great vid
Fascinating stuff - plenty of ag tech there. And my goodness, anyone can see the difference in roots between the starter and non-starter. Looking forward to the follow up on how the yield varies. Andrew - you noted the difference in the row closing between the HFW planter and your planter - the slight ridge vs flat and smooth. How's that affect things? Not a farmer here and I wonder how much of a difference such a slight (to this untrained eye) difference is smoothness of the ground will make? Is it a depth control thing? Or?
The main difference is when you leave air pockets around the seed you can get uneven germination. A corn plant that germinates/emerges late won’t be able to compete with larger corn plants and you end up with smaller ears and lower yield. Furrowforce gets rid of those air pockets/ridges
Thx. I'd picked up that equal emergence was critical for the reason you stated. On the learn something new everyday side - the closing leaving, or not, air pockets influencing emergence. I find it fascinating how much science and attention to detail is in modern agriculture - such a small detail as getting the closing right. How far agriculture has come since the days before Norman Borlaug kicked off the green revolution. Humanity thanks him and all others like him working to increase food supply.
Awesome Video!!
Hy from CROATIA 🙋♂️
Andrew, how much an acre is your starter mix y’all put down?
Yeah that's the question I had too... when he was ticking off all the stuff in that "black mix" or whatever he called it in the planting video, I was hearing "Cha-CHING!" $$$$$ cash register noises in my head! I'm very curious how much it actually cost for the materials and what the breakeven ROI is... OL J R :)
AGGRAND was dropped by AMSOIL which is a 4-4-3 Fish emulsion. Why is it not being used here?
Awesome 😎
And also Ryan what’s the ages of all the buildings and houses on all farms ?? And would u ever build a new house of barn or shed if so where tell in video please thanks I trying to give you video ideas plus I would like to know I like history like when did the farms get hydro back then and when were horses used on the farms and old pictures of the farms stuff like that please do a long video on the history of all the farms and have your brother and dad in the video also and maybe your mom and sister ?? History like back to the 1800’s or so from today like when did your grandfather buy the main farm and so on
Hey Ryan please do a video of all the animals cows. Chickens and dogs cats and pigs if there is any but I don’t think you have any pigs but show us the chicken coop also please
Hello from Algeria
What is going on Ryan how is the planter doing
Does the planter have a blanket over it
Planted a bit too early then.
Hey man
Hey!
Fish emulsion is far cheaper at 40:1
I really haven’t seen much positive data on that product and many similar products to what you’re referring to cause issues with flow meters and filter systems.
Fish emulsion is a biproduct of the fishing industry, so it should be cheaper. AGGRAND which was part of AMSOIL has the special sprayer with a 6 meter width with two tanks(one product and one water with 40:1 ratio) still at Winter Street in Superior Wisconsin. Product was dropped in favor of Synthetic oil. It had 25% more yield and had the benifit of repelling ground rodents because of fish blood in the product.
It's working going to be 5ft in no time
You really have to say what date is cause. Corn is up not farmer but they ask. Me what see can't say pavement but grew up farming trucking so I do watch. Plz just say date eastern MN this past week sun 23 had 3.5 Thurs till today much needed but not all at once
All bs
What's BS about it?? He makes valid points about the emergence and how it affects yield, BUT the real question is, what is the "lesson learned" here?? IMHO it shows you can "control" almost every variable in planting except the biggest two-- rainfall and temperature. He even said that stuff planted a few days before actually did better because it could make use of the warm spell when they were planting this, since it was germinating and growing toward emerging from the soil. They waited a few days for the warmer weather to plant, then it turned cooler and wetter and so it set things back.
Even with all the extra technology on the planter, there's STILL variability in the emergence-- hard spots or dry spots or cool spots in the soil makes HUGE difference to when it sprouts and how long to emergence. While the high-tech planter can "read conditions" via the "smart firmers" on the go and make adjustments to the planter downforce, closing downforce, seeding rates, etc. it STILL doesn't "eliminate" the variability... oh it HELPS with it, but it doesn't and NEVER CAN "*eliminate*" it! It shows particularly well in tough emergence conditions, which he said this was "the toughest emergence conditions I've ever seen". In perfect conditions yeah the high-tech planter would have done a near-perfect job... but then there would be little difference between it and a regular low-tech planter EITHER, particularly if it was in good shape and being operated correctly! AND keeping a machine like a planter in tip-top shape and OPERATING IT CORRECTLY is 90% of the job it will do in the end ANYWAY!
It's like the guys around here I see who think if they just buy a brand new baler and mo-co and rakes they'll make perfect hay... don't forget the old axiom "garbage in, garbage out"... IOW you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. IOW the best equipment in the world can't turn a crummy forage into top-notch hay. AND, as a book of my Grandpa's I found from the 50's states, "hay is at the highest quality it will EVER BE at the moment it is cut-- it's all downhill from there." IOW the trick is to MINIMIZE the damage and losses that occur during the cutting, drying, raking, curing, and baling process to maintain AS MUCH OF THE INITIAL QUALITY as is realistically possible. The book also points out that you can't make top quality hay from over-ripe or poor quality forage, BUT on the other hand you CAN take even the BEST quality forage and, through mishandling it during the haymaking process, turn it into low-quality forage in the bale due to factors like getting it rained on, sunburn or sun-bleached, raking when it's too dry (ie just before baling like 90% of guys do today) and crushing most of the leaves to dust and losing them (and 90% of the feed value is in the leaves), etc.
Now you're saying 'what has that got to do with a PLANTING video"?? Well, it's the same principle... you can control every variable to the extent possible, and it STILL not be 'perfect' and end up with a questionable result if the weather and temperature doesn't cooperate. It all comes down to a guessing game in the end-- do you believe the weatherman, or not? Does he know what he's talking about or not? May have the best weatherman on the planet and if some minor variable in the weather system changes, it won't come out like they thought it would. So it all comes down to rolling the dice in the end anyway! This "use technology to control everything possible" is kind of an illusion. Yeah we can use tech to improve the job we do, and to minimize the influence of as many variables as possible, but we CANNOT achieve total control, and in bad conditions like he's showing, the tech helps but doesn't eliminate the problems that the "regular planter" had, and you have to ask the legitimate question "at what cost" since that directly affects profitability, and without profit a crop isn't worth growing honestly. Bills still have to be paid. Of course the converse is also true-- in perfect conditions, the high tech machine will do a terrific job, but the regular planter will do a great job too if it's well maintained, set up, and run right. SO it comes down to cost and goals and profitability, which again is affected by many variables from year to year and many are totally beyond the scope of being controllable.
To sum up, no matter how good the technology or genetics or anything else, you're STILL going to have good years and bad years simply due to the vagaries of the weather and conditions... OL J R :)