Law and Ethics in Street Photography
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In this video I interview Nick Dunmur, who is a member of the legal team at the AOP (Association of Photographers) to talk about the laws surrounding street photography and photographing people in public. I also offer some thoughts on putting together your own moral code for your work, because sometimes asking if you 'can' take a photograph isn't enough, you also need to ask yourself whether you 'should'.
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"No single shot I take is worth ruining someone else's day", what really struck me the most in this video. Thank you Sean for educating everyone! more power to your channel.
@@rbx22 uneducated neckbeard
Hear hear. Same goes for your own feeling having to discuss. Better to avoid tension.
Also ... "If somebody asks me to delete that photography, I'll delete it". It's only a photo, you've got the rest of your life to take more, many & varied.
This also struck me!! Full respect!
@@williamdavid4823 That awkward moment when you shoot film.
Having a good ethical base is so important for confidence too. I like to say good photography is 10% photography, 90% philosophy.
Adam MacKintosh Photo and if your photography is 100%, then the photos will be amazing, but you might come of as a little unkind. So I think 10% photography is actually quite true because I spend most of my time telling people why I’m taking the photo, this means that I can walk away not feeling uncomfortable about lying to someone about my intensions, or not being clear in what I wanted the photo for.
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Wise words mannnn wise words
Photography is 30% photography, 30% ideas and 40% edition
NB This applies to the USA, UK and Germany. Get a lawyer.
7:00 "You can photograph anybody but..."
7:30 "Generally speaking... commercial use is the promotion of a product service or brand."
8:41 Artistic practice defined as derived from an exhibition. It's ok to sell prints and books based on an exhibition, but beyond that, it gets blurry and might be commercial use.
9:27 GDPR - a photo with an identifying marker makes a photo classed as personal data, and thus subject to GDPR. "It shouldn't affect your ability to make pictures."
10:10 GDPR has two exceptions - artistic use, and journalistic use.
11:30 Difference between a consent form and a model form. You really want a contractual model release form, where it's key that the model gets something for something, quid pro quo, to avoid issues in the future.
13:00 Key differences in Germany: It has greater breadth of privacy law than the aformentioned Anglophile countries.
14:15 Key differences in the USA: There's federal and state law. When you deal with confrontation, be nice...
17:38 Ethical considerations. We need to make ethical considerations before we consider the law.
18:09 Sean's boundaries that you shouldn't cookie cut. I won't copy it here, and will just say for me , the commenter, what is truly ethical is the unprecedented, a decision that only you can make. That said, for me, photography should have the potential for convivial conversation with those in the frame.
As a lawyer (England & Wales) and photographer, this is an excellent video and helpful. The law can be open to interpretation and changes to that interpretation. But when it comes down to it, and like most things in life, it is a judgment call; and do what is right and fair in the circumstances. I agree entirely with your comments about boundaries and ethical boundaries. Thank you
Thanks James. I appreciate that.
I am not a lawyer but I would never settle until a court tells me otherwise. I will not make it easy for someone especially if I do not feel that I have done anything which requires payment (street photography)
United States this isn't an issue, now if you're some obnoxious photographer then you might have issues. Also, in the United States, folks are captured at least 10-15 times a day w/o their knowledge on all the other surveillance devices
@M3sterX Agreed. All they can do it kick you out. They cannot confiscate any footage you have taken or restrict how that footage is used. They can bar you from the establishment so there are some courtesy and respect issues you might want to take into account.
@M3sterX Actually, the property owner can set rules of behavior for people in/on their property. If you violate the rules you can be asked to stop or to leave. If you refuse, in most places you would then be criminally trespassing and subject to arrest.
For film users, who can't delete or show an image: carry a small thin book/zine with some examples of your 'intentions' or; photographs to show if anyone needs to know why you just took their picture.
This video was very useful, thank you.
This is a great idea!
I've thought about this - however, what about the people just getting into street photography? If you've got nothing to show, any ideas for what to do?
A little late, but you can always show them pictures from other street photographers you like, tell them you're trying to get into the hobby and that you want to take pictures like the ones you're showing them.
Superb and highly valuable content as usual. I shall direct people to this every time I get people asking these same old legal questions on my Photographing Strangers video. Congrats on hitting 300K subs too.
Cheers mate.
Jamie Windsor the both of you make such great content! Thank you 🙏
I just watched the Photographing Strangers video. I’m a big fan of both of you. You’re both great creators. It’s awesome to see two people/channels that I admire supporting one another!
Wired and Wound we leave that to the French 😩
For me ethics rarely prevent me from taking the shot but always prevent me from posting it. Great video and food for thought Sean.
Exactly. Snap away, but ethical photographers only post those photos that would not embarrass the person/people in the photo.
That's a very intelligent and fair comment. I think it is ok to invade certain privacies if you keep it to yourself. The can of worms open when you publish it.
Sounds like the right thing, and I don't doubt you're sincere. But put yourself in the place of your subject: they see someone take a picture of them and disappear. They don't know you won't publish the photo, and even if you tell them, they have no reason to believe it.
I also would never publish without permission, but when people signal that they don't want me to photograph them, then I don't. It's called respect. If I would ignore their feelings about it, that would be called selfishness.
(And then I'm not even talking about how bad pictures can be when the subject is uncomfortable, or even annoyed.)
I think "to celebrate people" is one of the keys for street photography. it speaks of the beauty you want to capture, respect and making something nice to share. thanks, as always interesting and helpful and above all inspiring.
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I love photography and street photography but this is the one aspect of photography I hate. They say if you're pictures are not good enough, it's because you're not close enough, well that's where you start to invade people's personal space and conflict arises. It's also a reason I'm drawn to landscape and wildlife photography. You never get a mountain complain about having their picture taken, no need to get a model release from a puffin. I've never understood why some people object to their photo being taken but then again they probably don't understand why anyone would want to take their picture either.
17:31 "Long before we hit the boundaries of the Law, we need to make ethical decisions for ourselves."
Thanks for that point. it sometimes disappoints me how many people I talk with who will dismiss any concerns about what they say or do to other people, as long as they can't be arrested for it. Just because "it's my right!" doesn't mean I ought to do it.
pretty basic stuff, I know. but if I had a dollar for every time someone's conflated ethics with legality in defense of being an ass.....
Corporates do this all the time!
Yes I agree!! I asked in a server and someone told me "The ethics will be in the laws" :/ Then someone else directed me to this video :)
Love everything about this video. Thank you for this useful information.
I've been searching for this information soo long, many thanks for that!
Great advice and excellent content, thanks
Im so happy to find your channel, thank you so much, Masta!
Another solid work! Thanks Sean.
Finally got round to watching this video. Such great information. It really helps. Thank You 🙏🙏
🙏 Thanks Sean, for all the great content you share
Great video. Very informative, clear and concise. Also, love the framing and the lighting.
This video as cleared up a lot that I have been thinking about lately.I'm for ever talking to guys like you about this side of the work I do. Thanks again.
Thank you Sean, wonderfully helpful and insightful as always
Really appreciate the work put into this video, Sean. Great information and perspective.
Bravo Sean! Such valuable content, always on your channel. Well done!
Thank you again, your channel content is amazing!
So helpful and informative, thank you very much Sean for taking the time and trouble to put this thought provoking and philosophical video together.
Thank you for taking your time to create this educational video. Wish you the best!
Fascinating Information and so Worthy of discussion .... thank you for your Deep Dive!!!
Excellent topic Sean! Thank you and the AOP for the time you put into this.
Fantastic content and discussion, thanks
Thank you Sean and AOP for this!
Very informative video! Also the lightning in the intro part is amazing! 💛
Excellent guidance, especially regarding the intersection of the legal and subjective considerations.
I ❤️ your ethical boundaries. Thank you so much for sharing them!
Easily the best most comprehensive video on this topic I've watched so far. Thank you
Awesome video. Super helpful. Really love your street shots too
Time well worth spent. Thank you for this.
Dropping some serious knowledge and much needed for many of us. Thanks for another great video Sean!
Thank you Sean for the very informative video. Very much appreciated. Keep up the great work! :)
Many thanks for this video!
Fantastic. I love these videos. Your ethical boundaries, described at the end of this one, were very insightful. Thank you.
Great video Sean! Thanks!
Love this, Sean. Especially the talk about ethical boundaries at the end.
What a superb vlog Sean, very interesting and enlightening. Especially with the part about Southbank, that was a surprise
Great information and advice !!!! Thanks so much !!!
Great video Sean, so helpful
Loved this one. Everything so well placed and well said .
Thank you for the insightful and useful content as usual
Great video! Thanks!
I love your videos. You teach the skills plus an additional layer of heartfelt conversation on the man/woman behind the craft. Thank you.
Another extremely useful, helpful, informative and thought provoking video. Thanks Sean
Wow, incredibly useful, helpful, and important. Thank you Sean!
Solid advice , thank you Sean and to your guest speaker.
Thank you so much, Sean! That was really helpful! Greets from Munich, Germany 😊
Absolutely love this video and information about this. Will definitely be thinking about my own ethical code :D
Another excellent, moral and informative video. Thanks Sean.
This was excellent. I was looking about a year ago for something like this and couldn’t find anything so thank you for starting this conversation on TH-cam!
I live in Spain and I find this video so helpful! Specially the part about de GDPR. Thanks for producing and sharing it.
Excellent video. Thanks for the info.
Best video I've seen all year
God bless you brother👍🏾
High value content. A „must see“ for every street photographer. Thx a lot, Sean 🙏
Great video and very informative. Thank you for sharing. Your morals with photography are admirable.
Great video Sean. Its refreshing to see a great photographer with the humility to bring in expert opinion alongside their own on topics like this.
Another great video. Thanks for your content.
Just a good, clear, concise video on questions we've all been asked, or asked ourselves. Double thumbs up! Thank you.
This is so useful. Wish there was more in depth discussion by experts of photography matters, Thanks for this Sean.
Good advice, great video as usual. Thanks.
A very informative video. Enjoyed it as usual. Thank You.
Brilliant film. Thanks Sean! Nick answered all my questions and concerns. Very interesting content as usual. Keep up the great work Sean and as usual your videos show what a wonderful human being you are a well as photographer.
Great video, thanks for sharing.
I swear every video you make is so interesting and calming in a way. I have learnt so much from watching your videos, keep them coming!
Very illustrative video about legal advices and ethical behavior principles. Very, very useful!
great work Sean, thanks!
Thank you Sean, really helpful video!
Sean, this is s very useful information, but even more importantly, it made me think about issues in advance, and your comments on intent were a great catalyst for me to think through these issues and set some boundaries for myself. Thank you.
Thank you so much Sean ❣️ for this and this is really really really helpful.
I have so much respect for you Sean. You are absolutely awesome!
Thank you. Something I've been uncertain about for a while clearly and concisely explained. Invaluable to all responsible photographers.
Great information. Well done.
Thank you for posting this💪👌🙏
Thank you Sean, that was very valuable and corresponds 100% from the legal and moral sides to what I know and practice.
Excellent video - a brilliant addition to the discourse on this subject, bravo.
Great work, thank you. Being honest about why a pic is taken and being kind are two excellent reminders. 🙂✌️
Thank you, Sean, for this so valuable video! Greetings from Lima, Peru.
Very useful & informative video, glad I found this.
Thanks the the excellent information in this video Sean.
Extremely useful video and interview Sean, thank you for taking the time to clarify so much incorrect information and hearsay.
As always Sean such a superb video covering such a useful, important and confusing subject. It had the possibility of being such a dry subject but brilliant. Huge thanks to all involved for their time and efforts for our consumption. I will ref this to anyone who asks these questions of me.
As always, thank you Sean
Thank you Sean. Really informative and interesting video.
Thanks Sean for another informative video relating to photography!!! It never came across my mind regarding the legal side on photography. Thanks for reminding me on the ETHICAL part of photography I want to portray!!!...
This is an excellent video! thanks for some light in the dark.
A very useful information to know about the lawful side of street photography. I also find your ethical approach to this subject and the reason behind it is most admirable!
Useful and awesome advise! Thank you.
This is something that’s been on my mind for a while now. It’s great to have someone to give some perspective, even if laws are different from country to country. Thank you!
Another very informative video, Sean. Well done mate. Cheers J
Excellent video. Thank you
Thank you for breaking down the laws and ethics of street photography! It really helped me clear my mind from the concerns and fears related to street photography that I have been wanting to try.
Thanks- very professional and thorough!! Nice combo of AOP video and your professional and ethical point of view. I have a better understanding of what resources to look for in the US. Thanks!!
Thank you for going to the effort of bringing in the extra perspective. It's extremely helpful, and so much more useful than just saying what you reckon the law might be :)
Excellent to know, let your own ethical boundary code be present when walking the street: great advice. Thank you, Sean.
This was very helpful. Thank you for including the situation in Germany!