We all watch Mulan and think its a great, inspiring film for women. But maybe there's a little more to it than that? Follow My Insta @mistersweet_youtube
“I want a girl that looks beyond, with stars in her eyes!” Would have been a better line for Mulan to say. It would say the same message as a girl that is smart, but also is a dreamer. And if a guy wants a dreamer for a girl, then he would also want her to talk about those dreams, kinda like speaking up her mind?
Okay, this was lovely. I really loved watching this, but a quick defense for Mulan: wouldn’t it make sense that she would try to contribute a “desirable” trait in women but totally miss the mark because she *is* a woman? She can’t fully participate in this song because she’s not a man, she doesn’t know the intimate desires of a man’s heart. So I don’t think her input was really meant to undermine the simple and wholesome desires of these characters, but maybe it was meant to show just how little men and women really understand each other?
Yes!! That is an excellent point and I totally agree! Didn’t mean to bash on Mulan for more than comedic affect, I just wanted to bring light to these guys parts in the songs and defend that it’s less sexist than it seemed. But 100% mulan is just trying to be apart of it and describe what I’m sure she wishes men desired in her or what she values, it just isn’t something guys fantasize about! Like having a stable income or a reliable car! It’s essential but not as fun to dream about!
Another angle to this song is that it's not just about gender roles, sexism, or all that - it's also the youthful idealism of the recruits seeing war as this glorious game to gain fame and fortune, honor to their families, all that jingoistic fluff. And this is in HUGE contrast to the end, where the music and singing cut off, because they see war as it actually is. Death, desolation, bodies of those you loved or cared about. Villages and towns burned to the ground. And when Mulan picks up the doll in the village, the context of the "Girl Worth Fighting For" changes. It's no longer about impressing women. "The Girl Worth Fighting For" becomes your mothers, your sisters, your daughters, your friends and family. It's not about the prize of victory, but the horrific price of defeat.
Mulan's doing the same thing as everyone else in this song, except her line isn't nearly as well-phrased as theirs. As the movie constantly tells us, she's used to her opinion being shut down by everyone around her. So she's looking for someone who wants her to have her own opinions, and values her for them.
While I agree, I just think she wasn’t supposed to be a part of that conversation to begin with. They were being vulnerable about what they desire in a female, to their heterosexual male friends, and she, pretending to be one of them, offers up what she wants to be valued for. And while there’s nothing wrong with that, I just think the attributes she’s talking about are not what most men dream about and are willing to fight in a war to come home to. So it makes sense that they would be dismissive of what she had to say in that moment.
She says what she says because she's a straight girl and who can't relate to being a guy who wants to date a girl, so she's like idk man, what would I want in a girl, someone like me I guess? A friend?? I think she's trying to relate to them, she's not trying to be mean. I just mean that I also related to being someone who is not a boy who wants to date girls. Being aroace, I am also someone who just couldn't understand why anyone wanted romantic partners to begin with, so I struggled to relate when people would open up to me about their desires for love. Maybe that's the wrong read, but I feel it Anyway I agree with you and I did learn a lot from your take, thank you for sharing it!
That’s a good point and I definitely think you’re right about her motivation! I don’t think she’s wrong for not pretending to have an ideal woman in her mind, I just think it makes sense that the men didn’t respond to her partner-values, because they didn’t reflect what they were looking for! I’m glad you liked the video!
Hahahahaha so funny and wholesome... I agree with your interpretation except at Mulan's part, I personally like those qualities in a human partner. I think that smart people who like long intellectual debates are great company.
Hey I agree! Yeah I’ve talked to a few others in the comments about how I misrepresented my view of Mulan’s part in this! I attribute it to as essential attribute or something you know you need, it just isn’t as fun to Dream about for “most” guys.
I am a millennial woman and growing up I had to be exposed to 2 extremes of what masculinity is or should be etc, you know what I'm talking about! This is clean and balanced (as all things should be)
I’m glad you appreciated my take on it! I don’t think guys have to be cold and unfeeling or hyper nervous and lacking in self confidence! I like to imagine Uncle Iroh from avatar is a great picture of a healthy man!
can we talk about how all the men were reminded about the real girl worth fighting for? all the clips of the song ends before the desroyed village can be showed , hence we can not see the real girl worth fighting for that at the end of the day was the innocent people represented by the discarded doll. Yes its a downer part but my personal opinion is its shows how men can dream about what they want, but at the end of the day they know what is right. And that is why my heart breaks a little each time I see that doll.
Nah that’s just his love language. Like he receives love best as acts of service, not that acts of service are the most important thing in the relationship, it just makes him feel the most appreciated and seen!
Ok some arguments you made were valid and I respect your point of view on this movie, however when it got to the part where you compared an intelligent and successful woman to a car being convenient is when I got a bit skeptical.
While it might have been worded poorly, my point was that these men are dreaming about the qualities in a partner that would complete them. Qualities that they imagine would fulfill their deepest desires. And a “girl who’s got a brain, who always speaks her mind” likely isn’t the attribute of a partner that they would consider to be “existentially comforting”. It’s not that it isn’t incredibly valuable, or even an essential for most men to have an intelligent, honest partner, but it’s less something you dream about and something non-negotiable/expected in most cases.
Excellent video. The rest of yours look boring but i hope I'm proven wrong. I'm all about liberating the Han Chinese from the atheist communist party so anything along that theme id gladly thank you. A dynasty worth fighting for
“I want a girl that looks beyond, with stars in her eyes!” Would have been a better line for Mulan to say. It would say the same message as a girl that is smart, but also is a dreamer. And if a guy wants a dreamer for a girl, then he would also want her to talk about those dreams, kinda like speaking up her mind?
Max Fabian agreed! That would work a lot better! Anything that doesn’t seem to just shut down the other guys!
This is actually very insightful. This is why this movie will always be better than the live-action version.
Okay, this was lovely. I really loved watching this, but a quick defense for Mulan: wouldn’t it make sense that she would try to contribute a “desirable” trait in women but totally miss the mark because she *is* a woman? She can’t fully participate in this song because she’s not a man, she doesn’t know the intimate desires of a man’s heart. So I don’t think her input was really meant to undermine the simple and wholesome desires of these characters, but maybe it was meant to show just how little men and women really understand each other?
Yes!! That is an excellent point and I totally agree! Didn’t mean to bash on Mulan for more than comedic affect, I just wanted to bring light to these guys parts in the songs and defend that it’s less sexist than it seemed.
But 100% mulan is just trying to be apart of it and describe what I’m sure she wishes men desired in her or what she values, it just isn’t something guys fantasize about! Like having a stable income or a reliable car! It’s essential but not as fun to dream about!
Another angle to this song is that it's not just about gender roles, sexism, or all that - it's also the youthful idealism of the recruits seeing war as this glorious game to gain fame and fortune, honor to their families, all that jingoistic fluff. And this is in HUGE contrast to the end, where the music and singing cut off, because they see war as it actually is. Death, desolation, bodies of those you loved or cared about. Villages and towns burned to the ground.
And when Mulan picks up the doll in the village, the context of the "Girl Worth Fighting For" changes. It's no longer about impressing women. "The Girl Worth Fighting For" becomes your mothers, your sisters, your daughters, your friends and family. It's not about the prize of victory, but the horrific price of defeat.
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Mulan's doing the same thing as everyone else in this song, except her line isn't nearly as well-phrased as theirs. As the movie constantly tells us, she's used to her opinion being shut down by everyone around her. So she's looking for someone who wants her to have her own opinions, and values her for them.
While I agree, I just think she wasn’t supposed to be a part of that conversation to begin with. They were being vulnerable about what they desire in a female, to their heterosexual male friends, and she, pretending to be one of them, offers up what she wants to be valued for.
And while there’s nothing wrong with that, I just think the attributes she’s talking about are not what most men dream about and are willing to fight in a war to come home to.
So it makes sense that they would be dismissive of what she had to say in that moment.
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You can interpret that however you want.
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She says what she says because she's a straight girl and who can't relate to being a guy who wants to date a girl, so she's like idk man, what would I want in a girl, someone like me I guess? A friend?? I think she's trying to relate to them, she's not trying to be mean. I just mean that I also related to being someone who is not a boy who wants to date girls. Being aroace, I am also someone who just couldn't understand why anyone wanted romantic partners to begin with, so I struggled to relate when people would open up to me about their desires for love. Maybe that's the wrong read, but I feel it
Anyway I agree with you and I did learn a lot from your take, thank you for sharing it!
That’s a good point and I definitely think you’re right about her motivation! I don’t think she’s wrong for not pretending to have an ideal woman in her mind, I just think it makes sense that the men didn’t respond to her partner-values, because they didn’t reflect what they were looking for!
I’m glad you liked the video!
EYYYY ANOTHER AROACE hiya
I also feel the same way and really thought Mulan's response is my one tbh😂
another aroace ic ic
maybe if she was a lesbian shed relate more? or not necessarily tho.
Very insightful. I appreciate the perspective.
I just want someone who cares
I love this song, glad someone does too.
Yeah I actually always interpreted that way too can never figure out why other people said it was the worst song I thought it was the best
Hahahahaha so funny and wholesome... I agree with your interpretation except at Mulan's part, I personally like those qualities in a human partner. I think that smart people who like long intellectual debates are great company.
Hey I agree! Yeah I’ve talked to a few others in the comments about how I misrepresented my view of Mulan’s part in this! I attribute it to as essential attribute or something you know you need, it just isn’t as fun to
Dream about for “most” guys.
@@MisterSweetProductions I suppose... I honestly find that opinion a little rare among humans though.
@@ArtamisBot yeah honestly I’m sure what you or I value as non negotiable probably vary significantly from other people
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Nice analysis
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I am a millennial woman and growing up I had to be exposed to 2 extremes of what masculinity is or should be etc, you know what I'm talking about!
This is clean and balanced (as all things should be)
I’m glad you appreciated my take on it! I don’t think guys have to be cold and unfeeling or hyper nervous and lacking in self confidence! I like to imagine Uncle Iroh from avatar is a great picture of a healthy man!
@@MisterSweetProductions oh... that's a healthy man? Guess I'm far from being that. Welp time to off myself 🤡
can we talk about how all the men were reminded about the real girl worth fighting for? all the clips of the song ends before the desroyed village can be showed , hence we can not see the real girl worth fighting for that at the end of the day was the innocent people represented by the discarded doll. Yes its a downer part but my personal opinion is its shows how men can dream about what they want, but at the end of the day they know what is right. And that is why my heart breaks a little each time I see that doll.
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Huh, I never thought of this song this way. Fascinating.
This is such a well done video. Thanks for making great stuff!
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I liked this video take on the song
Before after
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This video opened my eyes
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These three show that not all men are shallow or chauvinistic.
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I don’t think I know what that means?
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Based but true. Shame gender relations only got worse over covid
but wouldnt chein po only want the girl for the food that she cooks and not the girl herself
Nah that’s just his love language. Like he receives love best as acts of service, not that acts of service are the most important thing in the relationship, it just makes him feel the most appreciated and seen!
peter pan wouldnt know what he wanted either. he doesnt have the experience.
Ok some arguments you made were valid and I respect your point of view on this movie, however when it got to the part where you compared an intelligent and successful woman to a car being convenient is when I got a bit skeptical.
While it might have been worded poorly, my point was that these men are dreaming about the qualities in a partner that would complete them. Qualities that they imagine would fulfill their deepest desires. And a “girl who’s got a brain, who always speaks her mind” likely isn’t the attribute of a partner that they would consider to be “existentially comforting”. It’s not that it isn’t incredibly valuable, or even an essential for most men to have an intelligent, honest partner, but it’s less something you dream about and something non-negotiable/expected in most cases.
Excellent video. The rest of yours look boring but i hope I'm proven wrong. I'm all about liberating the Han Chinese from the atheist communist party so anything along that theme id gladly thank you. A dynasty worth fighting for