0:01: "two, one... go!" 0:12: "*beep* I didn't go fast enough!... I didn't go fast enough." 0:19: "*beep*" 0:29: 'ket' 0:34: "You really need to go at full speed, I thought it would be faster. But yeah, this one's for rope use." 1:05: "hmugh!" 1:12: "*beep*" 1:26: "It's exhausting! It's VERY exhausting! 1:41: "Whut?" 2:47: "Yes" Plus some additional grunts and sighs.
Nice to see the safety line below. Our father in law had just sold his property to a young engaged couple who were going to move in after a trip to the Philippines. He went on a zip line. It failed. He died. So sad for the young couple😞
I think it is just the wrong diameter wire rope for that model. I think it's max is 12mm wire and 13mm rope. That model should be able to use on both (unlike the description). This wire looks much thicker.
Tandem speed was nowhere to be found anymore. I thought they were discontinued🤷♂️ Sent my friend over to a shop to only buy the Tandem Speed if available but they sold him this saying it would work as well. I did 2 thinner cables before and they went very well. But this was over a much longer length. My friend has the same pulley and he also didn't make it completely across that day.
I built a zip line for my kids. Not quite as long span or drop. It never occurred to me people could screw up equipment like that. Ran it for years with zero problems. Built one over water. Kids would drop off into water. Following rider would have to get their pulleys. Our pulleys were much larger.
Right at the beginning, you can see the pulley sheaves are worn out. You can see chunks missing from the sheaves, people should inspect their gear before using it.
Brand new half a year earlier, this was 3rd use and only with cable. Metal on metal friction is bound to leave its marks. No missing chunks though just scratched up sheaves. I would never use it for rope after cable use though since it might damage the rope. Just not enough speed from the start for this type of pulley over this length I guess. I do have to add that my friend used the same type of pulley with more push off at the start and also didn't make it across that day.
@@Supernovacluster probable, but the working temperature of an equipment is calculated by an engineer in the design phase. I need to know if with those temperatures the systems like the brakes work, if the ropes expand and lengthen and by how much. Technically everything must be calculated before hanging a person, including if the pulleys and bearings can work at those temperatures. whether the weight of the person affects and how the elasticity of the cable under those conditions. this obviously applies both in winter and in summer. all this is normally done, so for this reason I assume a deliberate and calculated design choice and the system is working correctly
Nope the carabiner wasn't the porblem. It was the wrong tandem pulley. Petzl builds two types, the red one with plain bearings, and the grey one for higher speeds with ball bearings. In this case he went to fast, the plain bearings went to hot and got stuck.
This is probably the safest way to solve the problem but could you have lifted yourself up and placed the carabiner on the wire to make it easier to slide? I've never done anything like this so I'm guessing that would be far harder than I'm making it out to be.
towards the end i would-ve tied a prusic knot on the main wire from shoelaces or whatnot and use it as a slide-brake-handle to pull myself along. or even loop it through the pulley to act as a brake.
Lol, it’s a top of the line Petzl pulley, it’s just not the appropriate pulley for that application, the “tandem speed” model which looks the same but has different bearings would’ve worked better. Still that’s no cheap pulley.
c une poulie petzl, pour des cordes, pas pour des câbles pour aller vite! ça chauffe un max....il le savait ce gadj'. qu'est ce qu'il ne faut pas faire pour une vidéo.......
@@Supernovacluster faites confice au panneau avant via pas à un vendeur qui veut vendre à tout prix , j'espère que vous y êtes retourner chez ce vendeur ! Vous auriez pu vous blessez !
@@Supernovacluster Quand la tyrolienne a une forte pente, mieux vaut utiliser une poulie pas trop rapide. Quand la pente n'est pas très accentuée, mieux vaut utiliser une poulie montée sur roulement à billes. elle glisse mieux. la petzl grise est parfaite. Donc, c'est toi qui choisit quelle poulie utiliser en fonction de la tyrolienne. Un bon point pour toi : tu étais attaché court et tu as pu ainsi te tracter et ne pas faire appel aux secours.
Competent climbers regularly service & also pre-saftey inspection to ensure saftey & maintain their own equipment, not relying on others with the "unknown" component. The body can go into "shock" even in a harness. Calmness is your best bet as getting emotional in these situations only helps to disorientate and prevent the brain from functioning efficiently from the blood supply(hot head). Only Love(Outlives Life)
He used a Petzl tandem pulley, so clearly he used primo stuff. Just not the right one for steel cable, but other than that it definitely wasn't of inferior quality.
@@pieterveenders9793 If it's a Petzl, I'll concur it's not the pulley's fault. I was friends with a kid whose Dad had all kinds of stuff not made for human transport, and we used it for stuff like this. Amazing we lived into adulthood.
Use the Petzl Tandem Speed for the next time
Sponsored by Petzl.
That's not a pulley, that's a duck
Wrong model of double pully for a start. That pully is ment for climbing rope, not steel wire rope.
We use that in wire rope all the time. Petzl even sells it on the challenge course (zip line) section of their site.
@M. Elise Smith Different models for wire rope. The red pully is for fiber rope only. As per manufacturer specifications.
I have to say I was very happy to be wearing my Camp gloves :-)
0:01: "two, one... go!"
0:12: "*beep* I didn't go fast enough!... I didn't go fast enough."
0:19: "*beep*"
0:29: 'ket'
0:34: "You really need to go at full speed, I thought it would be faster. But yeah, this one's for rope use."
1:05: "hmugh!"
1:12: "*beep*"
1:26: "It's exhausting! It's VERY exhausting!
1:41: "Whut?"
2:47: "Yes"
Plus some additional grunts and sighs.
Nice to see the safety line below.
Our father in law had just sold his property to a young engaged couple who were going to move in after a trip to the Philippines. He went on a zip line. It failed. He died. So sad for the young couple😞
At least you had gloves lol
Those Camp gloves have always served me well👌 I couldn't imagine the way my hands would look without them😅
I was waiting for it to break and then I realised I'd misread the title.
And that’s why you should read manufacturer’s instructions
Seeing his shadow on the ground was trippy.
I think it is just the wrong diameter wire rope for that model. I think it's max is 12mm wire and 13mm rope. That model should be able to use on both (unlike the description). This wire looks much thicker.
he should have used the tandem speed imo and I wounder if the shives were the wrong diameter to the cable
Tandem speed was nowhere to be found anymore. I thought they were discontinued🤷♂️ Sent my friend over to a shop to only buy the Tandem Speed if available but they sold him this saying it would work as well. I did 2 thinner cables before and they went very well. But this was over a much longer length. My friend has the same pulley and he also didn't make it completely across that day.
@@Supernovacluster tandem speed is also for rope not for cable but it can roll faster
Not surprising you can see and hear the resistance.
I built a zip line for my kids. Not quite as long span or drop. It never occurred to me people could screw up equipment like that. Ran it for years with zero problems. Built one over water. Kids would drop off into water. Following rider would have to get their pulleys. Our pulleys were much larger.
You greased the bearings right?
Uh...
Lmao. I would have been up there shitting my pants so bad then bright rocks looked like cinnamon toast
Is not a Tyrolinne. Is a bridge, nepaly bridge I think.
Les échelles de la mort, Charquemont, près de la frontière suisse. Très jolie via.
This is why they recommend you carry a can of wd40 whilst zip lining
Actually JB Weld works way better in these types of situations.
Hmmmmm I don't suppose you mean JB80? Lol
@@mynamesnotimportant6941 🤣🤣
Right at the beginning, you can see the pulley sheaves are worn out. You can see chunks missing from the sheaves, people should inspect their gear before using it.
Brand new half a year earlier, this was 3rd use and only with cable. Metal on metal friction is bound to leave its marks. No missing chunks though just scratched up sheaves. I would never use it for rope after cable use though since it might damage the rope. Just not enough speed from the start for this type of pulley over this length I guess. I do have to add that my friend used the same type of pulley with more push off at the start and also didn't make it across that day.
@@Supernovacluster it's the wrong pulley. you need the grey one. the speed pulley
normal elasticity of the cable with heavy person ...probably the line is designed for both directions
It was very hot that day and I wonder if the heat could have made the cable to expand and lose tension🤔
@@Supernovacluster probable, but the working temperature of an equipment is calculated by an engineer in the design phase. I need to know if with those temperatures the systems like the brakes work, if the ropes expand and lengthen and by how much. Technically everything must be calculated before hanging a person, including if the pulleys and bearings can work at those temperatures. whether the weight of the person affects and how the elasticity of the cable under those conditions. this obviously applies both in winter and in summer. all this is normally done, so for this reason I assume a deliberate and calculated design choice and the system is working correctly
which pulley is it exactly?
Petzl Tandem
@@Supernovacluster Tandem only for Rope Zipline
Not allowe use on cable
Looks like something bought from Harbor Freight.
Anybody else imagining a 250kg person with weak arms stuck in the middle?
Isn’t 250kg 550lbs? I’d say by the spaghetti like arms he can’t weigh that much 😂
How did you get down from there?
We went around the rock following the via ferrata trail
Self Serve zip line 😂
I would have been terrified and frozen.
Wasn’t the carabiner braking him? He seemed to be putting a lot of force on it
Nope the carabiner wasn't the porblem. It was the wrong tandem pulley. Petzl builds two types, the red one with plain bearings, and the grey one for higher speeds with ball bearings.
In this case he went to fast, the plain bearings went to hot and got stuck.
Watching this I’m exhausted
Unhook the clip from the stuck pulley and attach to line.
This is probably the safest way to solve the problem but could you have lifted yourself up and placed the carabiner on the wire to make it easier to slide? I've never done anything like this so I'm guessing that would be far harder than I'm making it out to be.
towards the end i would-ve tied a prusic knot on the main wire from shoelaces or whatnot and use it as a slide-brake-handle to pull myself along. or even loop it through the pulley to act as a brake.
I would never have gotten on that with that poor gear to start with!
Give me my $$$ back!!!
that is for ropes
His arms have to be dead
That looks fun
i'll pass on the diy zip line
Those bearings spun out. Pulley looks cheap. No ratings on it.
Lol, it’s a top of the line Petzl pulley, it’s just not the appropriate pulley for that application, the “tandem speed” model which looks the same but has different bearings would’ve worked better. Still that’s no cheap pulley.
c une poulie petzl, pour des cordes, pas pour des câbles pour aller vite! ça chauffe un max....il le savait ce gadj'.
qu'est ce qu'il ne faut pas faire pour une vidéo.......
Jive ass pulley. Rope pulley. Not for wire cable. You got lucky
Fun...fun...🤣
And this is how you don't do it.
Terrible technique - you clip both carabiners of your VF kit over the pulley, not one to the bottom, to give you redundancy. Wow.
The 2 of the VF kit are clipped to the 'life line' and then a separate carabiner is holding my weight on the pulley. What do you mean?
Oops I did it again
Très intelligent de ne pas utiliser le bon matériel , faut aprendre a lire et a s'équiper !
Le vendeur du materiel a dit que ca va marcher avec ce poulie..
@@Supernovacluster faites confice au panneau avant via pas à un vendeur qui veut vendre à tout prix , j'espère que vous y êtes retourner chez ce vendeur ! Vous auriez pu vous blessez !
@@Supernovacluster Quand la tyrolienne a une forte pente, mieux vaut utiliser une poulie pas trop rapide. Quand la pente n'est pas très accentuée, mieux vaut utiliser une poulie montée sur roulement à billes. elle glisse mieux. la petzl grise est parfaite.
Donc, c'est toi qui choisit quelle poulie utiliser en fonction de la tyrolienne.
Un bon point pour toi : tu étais attaché court et tu as pu ainsi te tracter et ne pas faire appel aux secours.
Competent climbers regularly service & also pre-saftey inspection to ensure saftey & maintain their own equipment, not relying on others with the "unknown" component. The body can go into "shock" even in a harness. Calmness is your best bet as getting emotional in these situations only helps to disorientate and prevent the brain from functioning efficiently from the blood supply(hot head).
Only Love(Outlives Life)
Maybe the business inadvertently ordered a Pull Yee instead of a pulley. BIG difference
Han
I like to save a buck like anyone, but don't use the Harbor Freight stuff when your life depends on it.
He used a Petzl tandem pulley, so clearly he used primo stuff. Just not the right one for steel cable, but other than that it definitely wasn't of inferior quality.
@@pieterveenders9793 If it's a Petzl, I'll concur it's not the pulley's fault. I was friends with a kid whose Dad had all kinds of stuff not made for human transport, and we used it for stuff like this. Amazing we lived into adulthood.
I believe I would've demanded my money back if they set me up on that janky rig