You could tell a pretty interesting slice of history by following this strain of monotheisim: from Iranian Zoroastrians, to Canaanite Jews, to Byzantine Christians, to Roman Catholics, to German Lutherans, maybe stop by Dutch Calvanists, to English Anglicans, to America's melange of Christianities. Probably could slot Arab's Muslims between Byzantium and Rome.
It's quite plausible. I like how u stated that the jews were Canaanite themselves.. Once they came under Persian influence and rule, they were influenced by Zoroastrianism, which would include monotheism.. Later they then went to write the Tanakh and using Yahweh as the only god they were supposed to worship and that ALL humanity is in sin because of the worship of other gods. Once they established the 2nd Temple, that's when most of the old testament was written and from the southern tribe of jew's perspective. This 2nd Temple gave birth to Judaism, Christianity and Islam. But little do they know, that their origins goes back to 2nd Temple Judaism, then it splits to Persian influence, that goes all the way to The Proto indo European polytheism. While the other path was influenced through Mesopotamian and Canaanitish polytheism. I'm not a scholar and I don't claim to know it all, I may even be wrong about some of this, BUT there is nothing new under the sun
Can you acknowledge that Zarathustra was Indo Vedic in origin and he was born in Northern Kashmir and marched down to Balkh Afghanistan and then into Iran.
16:55 Crossing this narrow bridge and underneath there is hell, there is a similar teaching in Islam, is called "shiratal mustaqim" This happened because the majority of hadith writers were from Persia.
I would have to look that up. I think it was transmitted orally for a long time, as was the case in many other religions. The text could have changed in the meantime, but the fact that the Gathas are still in the archaic Avestan language and in contradiction with later texts is a good sign.
Good point! I have to admit in hindsight it was too "clickbaity" of a title. I will put in a question mark. Although, 15th century is possible for Zarathustra, by comparing the language to that of the equally old Rig Vedas. If I make another version at some point, I will add Akhnaten.
Theres so much similarities between Hinduism and zorazstrianism Asura means bad beings While devas means good beings In Sanskrit But in avestan Ahura is good Devas is bad A h u r a the h in here is replaced by s in Sanskrit Like sindhu became hindu And soma become homa for Persians . Ahura = demon Mazda= intelligent In Sanskrit Theres some fight have happened between the two Also hindus do wear thread around body like zorazstrians Infact yazidi religion is interestingly very similar to Hinduism Even the temple structure Peacock god Many rituals and traditions is very similar to ours
The star gazers climb so high on their ziggurats that they found the this god of the rounds of the celestial eternal fixed reason - the ONE -bringing the simple message ; think good say good do good . I call him the bicycle healer doctor making his round everyday - a day of light - dar a luz .
The problem with such intellectual analysis of old spiritual sources comes from the ‚paradigms‘ of those doing such analysis. This reminds me on studying climbing at a climbing university, reading all these different and contradicting books, trying to understand the stories about ropes and knots, discussing all this based on ill-defined words. What all the students and teachers of our climbing university never did: Stop talking and go to the overhanging cliff, exposing your’self’ existentially to climbing. As soon as this is happening, the climbers of all the different climbing universities silently agree and ‘understand’. You are doing interesting work, but I don’t think that conclusions like this or that was ‘dualistic’ has any deeper-going basis. After more than 40 years of running after so many teachings and teachers, for me it is now time to become more silent and start ‘climbing’.
Great and fantastic work buddy. Carry on . Very informative TH-cam channel
You could tell a pretty interesting slice of history by following this strain of monotheisim: from Iranian Zoroastrians, to Canaanite Jews, to Byzantine Christians, to Roman Catholics, to German Lutherans, maybe stop by Dutch Calvanists, to English Anglicans, to America's melange of Christianities. Probably could slot Arab's Muslims between Byzantium and Rome.
It's quite plausible. I like how u stated that the jews were Canaanite themselves.. Once they came under Persian influence and rule, they were influenced by Zoroastrianism, which would include monotheism.. Later they then went to write the Tanakh and using Yahweh as the only god they were supposed to worship and that ALL humanity is in sin because of the worship of other gods. Once they established the 2nd Temple, that's when most of the old testament was written and from the southern tribe of jew's perspective. This 2nd Temple gave birth to Judaism, Christianity and Islam. But little do they know, that their origins goes back to 2nd Temple Judaism, then it splits to Persian influence, that goes all the way to The Proto indo European polytheism. While the other path was influenced through Mesopotamian and Canaanitish polytheism. I'm not a scholar and I don't claim to know it all, I may even be wrong about some of this, BUT there is nothing new under the sun
Can you acknowledge that Zarathustra was Indo Vedic in origin and he was born in Northern Kashmir and marched down to Balkh Afghanistan and then into Iran.
16:55 Crossing this narrow bridge and underneath there is hell, there is a similar teaching in Islam, is called "shiratal mustaqim" This happened because the majority of hadith writers were from Persia.
Zoroastrianism is actually henotheistic, not monotheistic. First monotheist was Akhenaten.
Akhenaten ism
Was Henotheistic ....
The 1st Mono was islam ....😊😊😊
Great fantastic lectureAlso sprach Zarathustra: Richard Strauss.
Sarastro: in
Mozart's Magic flute.
At Plato’s funeral it is recorded that Zoroaster was 6,000 years before Plato. That means Zoroaster is 8,500 years ago. Can you comment on this?
What is the oldest reliable and academically accepted document of Zarathustra you use as a reference?
I would have to look that up. I think it was transmitted orally for a long time, as was the case in many other religions. The text could have changed in the meantime, but the fact that the Gathas are still in the archaic Avestan language and in contradiction with later texts is a good sign.
Claiming Zarathustra as the first monotheist doesn't make any sense, Akhenaten was monotheist in the 14th century BC
Good point! I have to admit in hindsight it was too "clickbaity" of a title. I will put in a question mark. Although, 15th century is possible for Zarathustra, by comparing the language to that of the equally old Rig Vedas. If I make another version at some point, I will add Akhnaten.
Theres so much similarities between Hinduism and zorazstrianism
Asura means bad beings
While devas means good beings
In Sanskrit
But in avestan
Ahura is good
Devas is bad
A h u r a the h in here is replaced by s in Sanskrit
Like sindhu became hindu
And soma become homa for Persians .
Ahura = demon Mazda= intelligent
In Sanskrit
Theres some fight have happened between the two
Also hindus do wear thread around body like zorazstrians
Infact yazidi religion is interestingly very similar to Hinduism
Even the temple structure
Peacock god
Many rituals and traditions is very similar to ours
No, in the oldest texts of Hinduism Asura is not a bad being but mighty beings.
@DudewithaGoodMood its not even bad in any scriptures it's seen as negative beings
@@Arain221 I'm talking about in Rigveda
@@DudewithaGoodMood even in rig Veda it's not bad
Or any other it's seen have negative slightly even devas were baad like indra in bhagwat puran.
@@Arain221 No. You have not read the Vedas only Puranas that's why you're saying that. Vedic terms are different from Puranic terms.
The star gazers climb so high on their ziggurats that they found the this god of the rounds of the celestial eternal fixed reason - the ONE -bringing the simple message ; think good say good do good . I call him the bicycle healer doctor making his round everyday - a day of light - dar a luz .
I thought the Aten cult Akhenaten founded was the first mono theistic cult/religion (same thing).
I'm only 2 minutes in, but you are kicking a$$
The problem with such intellectual analysis of old spiritual sources comes from the ‚paradigms‘ of those doing such analysis. This reminds me on studying climbing at a climbing university, reading all these different and contradicting books, trying to understand the stories about ropes and knots, discussing all this based on ill-defined words. What all the students and teachers of our climbing university never did: Stop talking and go to the overhanging cliff, exposing your’self’ existentially to climbing. As soon as this is happening, the climbers of all the different climbing universities silently agree and ‘understand’. You are doing interesting work, but I don’t think that conclusions like this or that was ‘dualistic’ has any deeper-going basis. After more than 40 years of running after so many teachings and teachers, for me it is now time to become more silent and start ‘climbing’.
Where is Iron? This is Iran ( Eiraan)
The oldest known document about Zarathustra is from the 8/9th. Century
I do remember reading something like that, yes
In the end all history is somewhat dodgy. Even the well-documented Greek history. We can't even make sense of our own time, haha
@@Stephans_History_of_the_World Zarathustra is LEGITIMATE AF