Update 2: measured on both bpm connect and omron evolv. To be enought you have to use 2 systems to have a sort of feel that you can thrust a bit the BP benchmark values. The data values are average wise the same. I did a 3 run test on the withings bpm connect and the omron evolv. Bpm connect can do that with a custom setting. Evolv not. But pressing 3x times with a little break is not that hard. My biggest positive for the omron is its clumsy proof. If your doubting the pressure on your arms than the evolv wins. I had to use the evolv in order to have a trusty feel of fitting with the bpm connect. Software wise omron connects nice with Samsung health directly. Bpm connect not. Data wise I'm a freak so I like the more open structure of withings health app. And also it syncs via WiFi. Omron wins in my opinion on speed, fitting and trustworthy measurements. Withings bpm connect wins on software and WiFi connection. So 8/10 for withings bmp connect and 9/10 for the omron. Im still not sure if I'm returning the bmp connect.
Valentijn Langendorff it’s good to know that we arrive at similar conclusions, but thank you so much for your input on their accuracy and for taking the time to review them yourself! I’m going to pin this comment so that other listeners might benefit from it as well! Thank you so much!!
Michael Simmons they both get the job done for sure. The biggest factor is if you plan on sharing the device with others in your household then go with withings. Otherwise you could argue your favorite based on personal preference 😄
For me the accuracy and the openness of the data is paramount. I want to have full and free access to my data, put em in an excel sheet, share them with other apps. Like Google Health(fit) etc. So I find myself not able to decide yet. Unsure of the openness.
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:32 *🩺 Dr. Kenny reviews two top blood pressure monitors: the Omron Evolv and the Withings Connect, both offering wireless, Bluetooth connectivity, and multi-user functionality.* 02:31 *🔋 The Omron Evolv, priced around $60, offers a clean design, wireless operation, and measures blood pressure during inflation, but requires replaceable batteries and may have a rigid cuff.* 04:27 *📲 The Withings BPM Connect, priced at $100, features a compact design, USB charging, and the ability to take three consecutive measurements for averaging, along with seamless data sharing for multiple users.* 05:53 *💡 Withings Connect offers easier data sharing among family members compared to the Omron Evolv, making it more suitable for households with multiple users.* 06:48 *💰 Dr. Kenny suggests the Omron Evolv for individual use or small households, while recommending the Withings Connect for larger households due to its convenient data sharing and additional features.* Made with HARPA AI
Thank you for the review! Diagnosed stage 2 hypertension a few weeks ago. The Withings readings matched my historical bp numbers. I now take bp readings daily, and forward my ENTIRE health data (coordinated with Apple Watch) to my cardiologist. My ACE inhibitor wasn’t working well enough, and adjustments are required. The Withings let me know that. Highly recommended! If not for this review, I would have bought (and almost did) the inferior device.
An accuracy test would be helpful. Comparing home units against what you have at your office. The biggest complaints with home units tends to be issues with accuracy
This may mean the end of sales for most home devices. Europe and the US have institutes that verify accuracy of devices, but the vast majority does not get a seal of approval. However, there are many Omrons which do, even some cheaper ones, and even some of their wrist devices.
i bought the withings. it really is well made and well designed. taking your blood pressure initially can be a bit scary! but what happens to me is my pressure is generally 10+ points lower at home than in the doctors. so many people are just wrongly diagnosed and drugged with serious meds that have negative side effects. taking bp is also a great way to tweak sleep, supplements, exercise etc. everyone should be taking bp 2x a day imo. heart disease is one major bullet it's advisable to dodge. i went whole food plant based, got rid of salt and refined oil, reduced stress, and increased exercise to make sure i don't fall victim to this scourge. taking my bp is a great way to keep an eye on trends to make corrections. be well!
@@nearlyretired7005 Like myself, plenty of consumers like to write reviews about their own personal experience with a product to either show support for a good product, or warn about possible quality or performance issues - for the benefit of other consumers. Amazon sells freaking everything. I highly doubt they have some elaborate network of drones with multiple fake accounts employed to write glowing reviews on everything amazon sells. There's plenty of negative reviews as well as positive reviews, and often a mixture of each for the same product. You can gauge the veracity of a review simply by reading it. If it seems "canned," ignore and move to the next. Calling people sheep is not edgy, it's lame. There's 7.8 billion people on this earth, so when you find people with a specific interest commenting about the relatively small range of product options available, you'll see some common themes. Don't be so negative. Peace.
@@matn7743 If you want large corporations to dominate world consumerism then keep buying Amazon products. In the end Amazon will sell every conceivable product in the world - giving the consumer no choice,this is very unhealthy. People should allowed to have choice,it is part of living in a free capitalist society. Have you heard of The Monopolies and Mergers Commission? It is set up to stop corporations from dominating trade. In the end you will have no choice but to buy from Amazon when they control all consumerism and prices. This company makes billions and pays very little tax in proportion to its profits. The tax bill from covid be will massive and the ordinary man pays. not the shareholders of Amazon If you buy from Amazon you make billionares richer at the expense of the ordinary people. Consumers are sleepwalking into buying from this company for a cheaper product without realising they are helping Amazon to become the ultimate world dominating monopoly. Peace to you also.
It should be noted that, while they may last up to 5 years, the Withing uses rechargeable batteries that are not replaceable by the user. That means you either send it in to have new batteries installed or buy a new unit. For that reason, I prefer user replaceable batteries.
Yes, rechargeable is more convenient however, sooner or later, the internal battery will crap out and you will have to throw the unit away. With the Omron, you will just replace the batteries.
Great video! I took your advice & I'm returning the one that I just recently bought for the item: Withings. I didn't know that the BPM could be wireless, rechargeable, & Bluetooth. Moreover, I share my BP with family & friends, that's just greatly convenient. I was just looking for an item that was Bluetooth & compatible with iOS. This exceeds my expectations. In addition, Omron bumped up their price. So, it made the decision easier. Cheers! You definitely should be an updated version of this video. The content is great.
Thank you so much. Because of your review, I ordered the Withing BPM Connect. I confess I think the rechargeable is the best way to go. Even though I buy batteries in bulk, I'm always running out, and to be frank,, I am so tired of replacing batteries in everything. Again, thanks for the great reviews.
I agree with this, features alone should never be a reason to chose a medical grade device over accuracy. I personally own both and replace the Withings with the Omron because of accuracy issues,. The Withings started off great, but slowly got higher and higher with readings. Short of resetting the device continually for accuracy wasn't worth it. 0 issues with Omron ever regarding accurate readings. Withings had me worried that my medication wasn't working... And HBP is bad enough without that stress on top of it 😂
I agree an inaccurate BP monitor belongs directly in your trash can. Don't try to save money by keeping a faulty (Titan) BP monitor that can give false readings to your doctor
Wife uses her BP monitor daily. Her "issue" is struggling to wrap the cuff around her arm; a) she's female hence smaller arm diameter, and b) the cuff "hangs-up" when she's trying to adjust it before inflation. You didn't mention the physical "get-it-on-your-arm-properly" aspect, and that's her issue. Thanks!!
Rechargeables have batteries that will die in a few years usually. And sometimes things are made so that it's difficult to change the rechargeable battery and people wind up chucking the whole machine. So I think that might be something to consider with comparing to a device that takes regular batteries.
Non consumer replaceable internal batteries should be outlawed. Such a waste to toss a perfectly good machine over batteries. Rechargeable AAs for the win!
Thanks for this video, the reviews on these kinds of devices are all over the place. Everyone has a review saying it’s not accurate and to go with another one. In looking on TH-cam, your the only one with a video.
I’m a CNA and the first thing i am tasked with is passing ice and getting vitals. The quicker,smaller product is what I am after. I need to be able to use it on large arms and tiny arms but a wrist is much easier. Not sure if as accurate but if you could do a video for this need Im sure you will get some good feedback. Thank you for the video i will be watching more
I have the Withings BPM Connect. I had the previous model as well. I like the newer one and how compact it is. I have been a little worried about the readings being slightly high/incorrect. I'm going to take it to my docs office and compare it there. I've been using it with my mother too since she is now a cardiac patient.
Thank you for review. Which is more accurate and has close reading Dr. office's BP monitors ? Would be great if you have a video compare both same time with Dr. office monitor..
The Withings BPM Connect was WILDLY inaccurate for me. I had to return it to Amazon. It was generally 25-30 points higher than what was measured at my doctor's office.
I bought both. The OMRON evolve first then the WithIngs BP Connect.I bought the Withings due to my physician saying that a smaller cuff could give a false read but I since noticed that the withings gave back similar results as the OMRON. So it’s me. As far as price the Omron is now 59.99 at Bestbuy and the Withings was $100 but I was able to get it for $54 at bestbuy because of points. As far As the OMRON I feel the cuff is more rigid but It is easier and quicker to get on. The battery replacement is annoying though. Also you can delete no results in the Omron Connect app if you need to. The Withings I like for the cuff is adjustable and it’s compact and it’s is rechargeable. Also I like where the Withings automatically sends the results to the app where the Omron doesn’t. Overall both are great but I feel the Withings is the best one.
Thanks for the effort you put into this review. We love this BP solution so much that we also got the Body+ scale to keep our data in a single app. Withings makes nice stuff.
There were a few concerns I had for this video. 1. The Omron CAN take 3 measurements and average them. 2. The Amazon reviews for the Wthings is "not that great". The accuracy was a concern. I want to like and buy this because I have other Withings devices but I may have to stay with my Omron for now. You nailed it about the Omron connect app, it was horrible at first. You'd have to keep pairing it.
I recently got a garmin index bp monitor. It was a bit expensive $159 but I love garmin products. And I already had the app. Story why: I have a cat who constantly chews on tubings (bp monitors) and hoses (cpap machine). So I needed a monitor that did not have tubing. I like it so far. This one you can share with 16 people and it weighs so much less than my old ormon did and is much easier to pack.
Thank you for your videos. You explain a lot of important information and features that's super useful. I'm so curious... You said you tested all of the cuffs you could find. That's crazy! About how many was that?
I received my Withings BPm Connect earlier last week and I loved it. I've used traditional blood pressure machines for years. However, they weren't portable, were cumbersome to use, and they weren't convenient when it came to keeping/tracking data. All those things contributed to me not taking my measurements regularly. This BPm Connect is awesome. Good size. Fits right in my bag. Also, slipping it on while I'm just sitting around is super convenient. The Withings cost more, but I actually use it! The app is easy to use and makes sense. It syncs with Apple Health easily and setup (Bluetooth) was straightforward.
What about consistency? If I move the BPM a bit or looser or tighter I got lots of different measurements. So With the Withings there a measure errors for me.
Valentijn Langendorff my measurements appear consistent. True, positioning the device differently will yield varied results. However, I'm consistent where I place it on my arm. Yesterday, it ran high. I double checked it with my old one and got similar results. I also notice, understand and appreciate when nurses would tell me be still or quiet when they took my measurements. I always thought they were just being..., not nice. Well, turns out it really does influenced the test! So, I actually sit still for 5 min (no talking) before taking a test.
Valentijn Langendorff that will generally happen with any blood pressure cuff even the ones at the hospital will vary if you move them a bit as long as the readings are a few digits off it’s ok
John Walton yes! I love that you noticed that. There are a lot of factors that can change your pressure, including if you ate or drank coffee before etc etc. I made a video on that too that you can find in the playlist!
I wanted to buy bp monitor for my personal use. Your video about wrist vs upper bp monitor and this video is quite enough to buy a monitor. Thanks a lot to mention the brand to buy. Keep rocking 💐
Thank for the review, I was stuck trying to find a good quality blood pressure monitor for my mom. Was going to go with omron brand, glad to find it is a good brand. However, after watching the review I decided to go with the withings brand for her. I like more features, etc as you said yourself (total nerd too lol) but I think this will be a lot easier and efficient for her.
Cameron Johnson thanks for watching! I think the withings will serve you well. Your mom is lucky to have you, always amazing to see people be proactive about medicine. Best wishes !
Hi Doc great idea but I have evolv (UK) and I don’t see how you can share? Also you can delete someone else’s reading via the app if need be - Go to BP tile in App ‘tap’ then ‘3 dots menu’ tap all stored data, then pick the ‘line’ which is someone else’s ‘tap’ and then at bottom of page ‘delete’ entry 🤗
Had the Withings first gen and the warranty and the battery cover we’re HORRIBLE. One year on any medical device is indicative that you shouldn’t take it seriously. Checking what the warrantees are now.
Love you review! Thank you! It helped me make a decision regarding which one to buy. I went with the Withings. Just got it today....I love it......BUT.....It's not as straightforward to set up with multiple users....I'm pulling my hair trying to figure out how to do it!
I’m surprised at the prices quoted for the Omron Evolv. In UK, the cheapest is £105!! I want to get the Garmin Index BPM but it is not available in UK. The lack of automatic syncing for Evolv is also disappointing and quite ‘clunky’.
I'm owning both the Omron Evolv and the Withings BPM connect rigth now for a comparison. And am comparing. As I have the Withings scale the app works great also with the BPM all data. A big up for the Withings' software and freedom (direct wifi upload and great dashboard). Omron has a poor app and no online dashboard. But then again the Omron is very consistent with the measurements. BPM connect : when playing with the height on my arm and pressure of the band it varies a lot. Omron has a better fitting technology and even says a code E1 if it's too loose or E4 error if you move to much and such. I keep both of them right now to compare and will decide after one week which one to keep. So at the moment Omron: wins on trustworty data (consistency) en Withings wins on software (mobile/dashboard). As Omron is a big player in the Bp market I guess they will improve the App soon. Note: sharing data on Android is a bit frustrating : Health mate won't sync BP tot Google Fit nor Samsung Health (only steps). I like to have different perspectives on data. Will update soon.
Valentijn Langendorff yes keep us updated on your findings and thanks for sharing! If all else is the same for you, but you just enjoy using one over the other and it will motivate you to continue checking your bp as a healthy habit then go with that one!
Let me guess without watching the video, he's not going to actually measure BP with them and compare to hospital grade medical device. He's going to tell us that both are good and we should choose the one fits our needs better.
Hmm... I tried the OMRON EVOLV a few months ago and returned it (I don't recall exactly why). Now I think I should give it another shot. I have the Omron HEM-780 upper arm monitor, an Omron Series 10 wrist monitor, a Panasonic, and a couple others. (BTW... I have had such accurate and consistent readings from the Omron *WRIST* device that I stopped using others to double check. It is 100% in sync with the Omron HEM-780 *_AND_* the Evolv.) But every few years I like to try see what else is out there, hence... Thanks for posting!!!
It's actually a good thing that they use replaceable batteries and not an internal rechargeable battery. Simply because all rechargeable lithium batteries deteriorate in a couple of years, at some point they just don't hold a charge and you'd have to either send it for replacement battery or buy a new one. Having them use regular replaceable batteries makes them be a device that will last for years if not decades (if everything else works fine in them). You can always use rechargeable AA/AAA NiMH batteries.
I've got a Withings scale. Great quality but really poor software. There is NO way to print pdf and send a list of the past measurements. It just gives out the last one (so total useless). My ejection depends on this feature. Can you tell me about that?
Nice talk. Thanks. I was not able to see my measurements on the Pixel phone. The devices were paired successfully but no data on the phone or website. Bluetooth and location were on. I took 6 consecutive measurements and got a 70% inconsistency of the readings with a max discrepancy of 15mmHg. I am going to return it.
The Withings is not for old people who already struggle with tech stuff. I'm already on my second one. The first one was a dud the second one all of a sudden did not sync with my phone anymore. Tried the chat line, good luck. Takes forever to get a live person on the line and then looooong pauses between Q and A. So now I write everything down in a booklet. Should've just kept on using my old battery operated Omron, or whatever Walmart sells, one.
Hi Doctor. My 60 year old mother has continual high blood pressure i meed to monitor. Which machine would you recommend ? Anything that checks for more health conditions would also be useful. Thank you.
On 3 Jan 2020 the Withings was $79.95 on Amazon. I did buy the Omron for $78.88 early in the day paired to my Samsung Note 9 phone no problem. However the app wasn’t available for my wife’s Samsung 4. So plan to return the Omron and order Withings from Amazon.
Just FYI, because I don’t know if this has changed in the time since this video was made or if anyone else has mentioned it, but (6:22) I recently bought the Omron Evolv and I’m able to delete a reading by swiping left and pressing the trashcan icon to remove it. I’ve had to do that a few times when I manually entered readings thinking the device wasn’t paired, then later I’d see that there were double entries - the ones I entered manually and the ones that were transferred from the device - so I deleted the duplicates.
Thorough review. I think the Withings interests me more. However, is there data on the life cycle of the battery since it's a rechargeable? What happens when the battery no longer accepts a charge? Can it be changed? Consumer or factory? Thank you
nice video this sounds the way to go. I currently have a omron series 3 arm cuff machine. Time to upgrade so I can keep track on my phone & send or print data.
I was real sick with a cold or flu so I went to an urgent care since it was 8pm my doctor was closed. They took blood pressure out of protocol as part of the check up and I was 165/83. They took it on my right arm, over my long sleeve dress shirt, and my arm was hanging down just laying next to my side/hip.... I don't think I was given an accurate reading at all? And they freaked me out. I bought the Omron 3 the very next day and it's consistent around 130/73 I'm 28 yr old, male, kinda lazy office job 6'5" 227lb I'm hoping that dr office reading was off. It's been freaking me out....
have a withings connect. had the original also. been using it consistently. took it to doctor today and it read consistently 20 points higher on sys/dia. showed me above 180/110. even after the doctor took my measurements that where 20 points lower . even verified that i was putting it on right and sitting right. also read a lot of reviews everywhere about it doing it to others....... can't really trust it imo. will be purchasing the omron evolv to compare then take to doctor.
@@th3drizzl378 So far the omron evolv has been good. within 5 points up or down approx. from doctor readings. not recharable like the withings. 4 triple 's. The newest app is pretty decent on android. give's you reminders and tips so you can get a sample of data to give the doctor. finally got my bp where the doctors wanted it.
I hate that omron is not going with time and just implement a type c plug. We live in 2024. Batteries are useful for travelling but 99% i measure blood pressure, i'm at home near a plug and not in the mountains. Even while travelling, i'd prefer to use usb c. It runs on 6v 1A, it would be so easy to implement. I also don't want to carry extra batteries when travelling or replace them once a week I contacted omron and they're saying there is no plans to implement that in the future.
This is an old video but I really hope you can answer. You said you bought rechargeable batteries for your evolve monitor by OMRON . I want to use rechargeable batteries with my OMRON evolve but the instructions say that only alkaline batteries should be used. I don’t see how using rechargeable batteries would ruin my monitor. Are you using yours with rechargeable batteries?
I bought the Withings Connect. Also have an inexpensive Omron. I liked the Withings so much I also bought the bath scale and the smart watch. Now all my info in one app. Wish they made a blood glucose monitor.
Did you compare results between different monitors at the same time to confirm accuracy? I have the BPM Connect and a more traditional tubed device, and have been making consecutive measurements every day to compare. The Whithings seems to consistently under-report deviation from the norm, i.e. the other device reports in the range of 115-145 and the Withings always reports 120-125 at the same time...
Thanks for the review! Really well done and the detail is hugely appreciated! Are there any new ones worth considering? I would love to see a remake of this video if there are. Also what do you think about the Omron SpotArm design which seems to eliminate problems with fitting the device? Looks really convenient
Salsa & Bachata Stars TV thank you so much for watching! The spot arm design is a great idea and I’m sure a lot of people would appreciate how convenient it is to use. Personally I prefer more portable devices. And yes there is always something better, the omron heartguide and the withings bpm core are both devices to consider if you are willing to spend the money haha. I guess a remake of this video could talk about those next tier devices but it would be too out of budget for most people when they are already finding good reliability with more affordable options
Great points! You helped me settle on the Connect, it seems like the right choice for my family. But I’m still having some doubts about that newer Core, would love to see you review it or the wristwatch one. They are expensive and that’s exactly why I’m interested to see how accurate their readings are and how useful an ECG is from just a couple of electrodes. Anyway, thank you once again for a great video!!!
Update 2: measured on both bpm connect and omron evolv. To be enought you have to use 2 systems to have a sort of feel that you can thrust a bit the BP benchmark values. The data values are average wise the same. I did a 3 run test on the withings bpm connect and the omron evolv. Bpm connect can do that with a custom setting. Evolv not. But pressing 3x times with a little break is not that hard. My biggest positive for the omron is its clumsy proof. If your doubting the pressure on your arms than the evolv wins. I had to use the evolv in order to have a trusty feel of fitting with the bpm connect. Software wise omron connects nice with Samsung health directly. Bpm connect not. Data wise I'm a freak so I like the more open structure of withings health app. And also it syncs via WiFi. Omron wins in my opinion on speed, fitting and trustworthy measurements. Withings bpm connect wins on software and WiFi connection. So 8/10 for withings bmp connect and 9/10 for the omron. Im still not sure if I'm returning the bmp connect.
Valentijn Langendorff it’s good to know that we arrive at similar conclusions, but thank you so much for your input on their accuracy and for taking the time to review them yourself! I’m going to pin this comment so that other listeners might benefit from it as well! Thank you so much!!
Mike and Matty so does that mean the omron is a better device?
Michael Simmons they both get the job done for sure. The biggest factor is if you plan on sharing the device with others in your household then go with withings. Otherwise you could argue your favorite based on personal preference 😄
For me the accuracy and the openness of the data is paramount. I want to have full and free access to my data, put em in an excel sheet, share them with other apps. Like Google Health(fit) etc.
So I find myself not able to decide yet. Unsure of the openness.
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🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation:
00:32 *🩺 Dr. Kenny reviews two top blood pressure monitors: the Omron Evolv and the Withings Connect, both offering wireless, Bluetooth connectivity, and multi-user functionality.*
02:31 *🔋 The Omron Evolv, priced around $60, offers a clean design, wireless operation, and measures blood pressure during inflation, but requires replaceable batteries and may have a rigid cuff.*
04:27 *📲 The Withings BPM Connect, priced at $100, features a compact design, USB charging, and the ability to take three consecutive measurements for averaging, along with seamless data sharing for multiple users.*
05:53 *💡 Withings Connect offers easier data sharing among family members compared to the Omron Evolv, making it more suitable for households with multiple users.*
06:48 *💰 Dr. Kenny suggests the Omron Evolv for individual use or small households, while recommending the Withings Connect for larger households due to its convenient data sharing and additional features.*
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Great review! I don't really care about all the features and portability. I just want something as accurate as the Dr's office monitor.
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Thank you for the review! Diagnosed stage 2 hypertension a few weeks ago. The Withings readings matched my historical bp numbers. I now take bp readings daily, and forward my ENTIRE health data (coordinated with Apple Watch) to my cardiologist. My ACE inhibitor wasn’t working well enough, and adjustments are required. The Withings let me know that.
Highly recommended!
If not for this review, I would have bought (and almost did) the inferior device.
An accuracy test would be helpful. Comparing home units against what you have at your office. The biggest complaints with home units tends to be issues with accuracy
100%!!! I took one home unit with me to the Doctor's office and it measured a full 20 mmHg off what the nurse measured with theirs!
This may mean the end of sales for most home devices.
Europe and the US have institutes that verify accuracy of devices, but the vast majority does not get a seal of approval. However, there are many Omrons which do, even some cheaper ones, and even some of their wrist devices.
i bought the withings. it really is well made and well designed. taking your blood pressure initially can be a bit scary! but what happens to me is my pressure is generally 10+ points lower at home than in the doctors. so many people are just wrongly diagnosed and drugged with serious meds that have negative side effects. taking bp is also a great way to tweak sleep, supplements, exercise etc. everyone should be taking bp 2x a day imo. heart disease is one major bullet it's advisable to dodge. i went whole food plant based, got rid of salt and refined oil, reduced stress, and increased exercise to make sure i don't fall victim to this scourge. taking my bp is a great way to keep an eye on trends to make corrections. be well!
Bought the Withings today based on both the overwhelmingly positive Amazon reviews and after watching your review. Cheers mate.
Hairy Man so glad to hear you are taking health into your own hands at home, hope you found what you are looking for!
You believe Amazon reviews!
It's a con to get you to buy products
People are sheep.
@@nearlyretired7005 Like myself, plenty of consumers like to write reviews about their own personal experience with a product to either show support for a good product, or warn about possible quality or performance issues - for the benefit of other consumers. Amazon sells freaking everything. I highly doubt they have some elaborate network of drones with multiple fake accounts employed to write glowing reviews on everything amazon sells. There's plenty of negative reviews as well as positive reviews, and often a mixture of each for the same product. You can gauge the veracity of a review simply by reading it. If it seems "canned," ignore and move to the next. Calling people sheep is not edgy, it's lame. There's 7.8 billion people on this earth, so when you find people with a specific interest commenting about the relatively small range of product options available, you'll see some common themes. Don't be so negative. Peace.
@@matn7743
If you want large corporations to dominate world consumerism then keep buying Amazon products.
In the end Amazon will sell every conceivable product in the world - giving the consumer no choice,this is very unhealthy.
People should allowed to have choice,it is part of living in a free capitalist society.
Have you heard of The Monopolies and Mergers Commission?
It is set up to stop corporations from dominating trade. In the end you will have no choice but to buy from Amazon when they control all consumerism and prices.
This company makes billions and pays very little tax in proportion to its profits.
The tax bill from covid be will massive and the ordinary man pays. not the shareholders of Amazon
If you buy from Amazon you make billionares richer at the expense of the ordinary people. Consumers are sleepwalking into buying from this company for a cheaper product without realising they are helping Amazon to become the ultimate world dominating monopoly.
Peace to you also.
It should be noted that, while they may last up to 5 years, the Withing uses rechargeable batteries that are not replaceable by the user. That means you either send it in to have new batteries installed or buy a new unit. For that reason, I prefer user replaceable batteries.
In the UK: Omron Evolv 5 year warranty / Withings BPM Connect 2 year warranty.
Yes, rechargeable is more convenient however, sooner or later, the internal battery will crap out and you will have to throw the unit away. With the Omron, you will just replace the batteries.
Great video! I took your advice & I'm returning the one that I just recently bought for the item: Withings. I didn't know that the BPM could be wireless, rechargeable, & Bluetooth. Moreover, I share my BP with family & friends, that's just greatly convenient. I was just looking for an item that was Bluetooth & compatible with iOS. This exceeds my expectations. In addition, Omron bumped up their price. So, it made the decision easier. Cheers! You definitely should be an updated version of this video. The content is great.
Thank you so much. Because of your review, I ordered the Withing BPM Connect. I confess I think the rechargeable is the best way to go. Even though I buy batteries in bulk, I'm always running out, and to be frank,, I am so tired of replacing batteries in everything. Again, thanks for the great reviews.
You should show how accurate they are ?
I agree with this, features alone should never be a reason to chose a medical grade device over accuracy. I personally own both and replace the Withings with the Omron because of accuracy issues,. The Withings started off great, but slowly got higher and higher with readings. Short of resetting the device continually for accuracy wasn't worth it. 0 issues with Omron ever regarding accurate readings. Withings had me worried that my medication wasn't working... And HBP is bad enough without that stress on top of it 😂
I agree an inaccurate BP monitor belongs directly in your trash can. Don't try to save money by keeping a faulty (Titan) BP monitor that can give false readings to your doctor
My withings bpm core is 15 points off. Checked it with my doctor. Their support does not answer. Brand new e-waste.
Wife uses her BP monitor daily. Her "issue" is struggling to wrap the cuff around her arm; a) she's female hence smaller arm diameter, and b) the cuff "hangs-up" when she's trying to adjust it before inflation. You didn't mention the physical "get-it-on-your-arm-properly" aspect, and that's her issue. Thanks!!
Rechargeables have batteries that will die in a few years usually. And sometimes things are made so that it's difficult to change the rechargeable battery and people wind up chucking the whole machine. So I think that might be something to consider with comparing to a device that takes regular batteries.
Non consumer replaceable internal batteries should be outlawed.
Such a waste to toss a perfectly good machine over batteries.
Rechargeable AAs for the win!
Exactly, I'd rather buy a pack of AAs or AAAs every once in awhile than have to deal with USB charging all the time.
Thanks a lot for the review, Doctor Kenny.
Withings my pleasure, thanks for watching!
Doctor Kenny: you helped me decide, great video, informative,concise. I ordered the Withing from your link, only $85 plus tax, thanks!
Thanks for this video, the reviews on these kinds of devices are all over the place. Everyone has a review saying it’s not accurate and to go with another one. In looking on TH-cam, your the only one with a video.
Clinton Lewis hey Clinton thanks for watching and for the commenting it really means a lot and so glad the video was helpful for you!
And where are Beurer devices ?!!! What about Beurer BM 93 ?
Thanks so much for the in-depth review. I am going to get the Withings unit.
I just bought the Omron Evolv at walmart on clearance for $19.70 Brand new. What a steal. So far I love it
Nice find !
Where u brought it on this amount?
very helpful and to the point, thank you! just bought the whitings mainly because of the rechargeable battery
I’m a CNA and the first thing i am tasked with is passing ice and getting vitals. The quicker,smaller product is what I am after. I need to be able to use it on large arms and tiny arms but a wrist is much easier. Not sure if as accurate but if you could do a video for this need Im sure you will get some good feedback. Thank you for the video i will be watching more
I have the Withings BPM Connect. I had the previous model as well. I like the newer one and how compact it is. I have been a little worried about the readings being slightly high/incorrect. I'm going to take it to my docs office and compare it there. I've been using it with my mother too since she is now a cardiac patient.
did u compare?
Was it accurate 😅
@@cybertroy2 Yes I did and it was high
@@faikerdogan2802 not sure what you're laughing at but anyway..... Yes I took it to the doc and it was slightly higher than their monitor
Thank you for review. Which is more accurate and has close reading Dr. office's BP monitors ? Would be great if you have a video compare both same time with Dr. office monitor..
Great review....really liked your unbiased approach to the comparison of each device. I think I am going with the Withings BPM....
Frank Laurie hey Frank, my pleasure, thanks so much for watching!
The Withings BPM Connect was WILDLY inaccurate for me. I had to return it to Amazon. It was generally 25-30 points higher than what was measured at my doctor's office.
Thank you DR. Kenny! You remind me a lot of my nephew Christian.
It’s very professional and it’s really helpful for us
I bought both. The OMRON evolve first then the WithIngs BP Connect.I bought the Withings due to my physician saying that a smaller cuff could give a false read but I since noticed that the withings gave back similar results as the OMRON. So it’s me. As far as price the Omron is now 59.99 at Bestbuy and the Withings was $100 but I was able to get it for $54 at bestbuy because of points. As far
As the OMRON I feel the cuff is more rigid but It is easier and quicker to get on. The battery replacement is annoying though. Also you can delete no results in the Omron Connect app if you need to. The Withings I like for the cuff is adjustable and it’s compact and it’s is rechargeable. Also I like where the Withings automatically sends the results to the app where the Omron doesn’t. Overall both are great but I feel the Withings is the best one.
Thanks doc, looking for an upgrade and u solved my dilemma
So convenient & much easier to keep track of my BP.. def going to try one of these, thanks!
yea you can share 1 between your entire family/friends, check out our link in description
And where are Beurer devices ?!!! What about Beurer BM 93 ?
Thanks for the effort you put into this review. We love this BP solution so much that we also got the Body+ scale to keep our data in a single app. Withings makes nice stuff.
I was actually looking for the Omron but as its much more expensive here in Denmark then the Withings I might reconsider after watching this video.
There were a few concerns I had for this video. 1. The Omron CAN take 3 measurements and average them. 2. The Amazon reviews for the Wthings is "not that great". The accuracy was a concern. I want to like and buy this because I have other Withings devices but I may have to stay with my Omron for now. You nailed it about the Omron connect app, it was horrible at first. You'd have to keep pairing it.
I recently got a garmin index bp monitor. It was a bit expensive $159 but I love garmin products. And I already had the app. Story why: I have a cat who constantly chews on tubings (bp monitors) and hoses (cpap machine). So I needed a monitor that did not have tubing. I like it so far. This one you can share with 16 people and it weighs so much less than my old ormon did and is much easier to pack.
Thank you for your videos. You explain a lot of important information and features that's super useful. I'm so curious... You said you tested all of the cuffs you could find. That's crazy! About how many was that?
I received my Withings BPm Connect earlier last week and I loved it. I've used traditional blood pressure machines for years. However, they weren't portable, were cumbersome to use, and they weren't convenient when it came to keeping/tracking data. All those things contributed to me not taking my measurements regularly. This BPm Connect is awesome. Good size. Fits right in my bag. Also, slipping it on while I'm just sitting around is super convenient.
The Withings cost more, but I actually use it! The app is easy to use and makes sense. It syncs with Apple Health easily and setup (Bluetooth) was straightforward.
John Walton hey John, thank you so much for sharing! I hope others see this comment and are inspired by your motivation. Keep up those healthy habits!
What about consistency? If I move the BPM a bit or looser or tighter I got lots of different measurements. So With the Withings there a measure errors for me.
Valentijn Langendorff my measurements appear consistent. True, positioning the device differently will yield varied results. However, I'm consistent where I place it on my arm. Yesterday, it ran high. I double checked it with my old one and got similar results. I also notice, understand and appreciate when nurses would tell me be still or quiet when they took my measurements. I always thought they were just being..., not nice. Well, turns out it really does influenced the test! So, I actually sit still for 5 min (no talking) before taking a test.
Valentijn Langendorff that will generally happen with any blood pressure cuff even the ones at the hospital will vary if you move them a bit as long as the readings are a few digits off it’s ok
John Walton yes! I love that you noticed that. There are a lot of factors that can change your pressure, including if you ate or drank coffee before etc etc. I made a video on that too that you can find in the playlist!
I wanted to buy bp monitor for my personal use. Your video about wrist vs upper bp monitor and this video is quite enough to buy a monitor. Thanks a lot to mention the brand to buy. Keep rocking 💐
Thank for the review, I was stuck trying to find a good quality blood pressure monitor for my mom. Was going to go with omron brand, glad to find it is a good brand. However, after watching the review I decided to go with the withings brand for her. I like more features, etc as you said yourself (total nerd too lol) but I think this will be a lot easier and efficient for her.
Cameron Johnson thanks for watching! I think the withings will serve you well. Your mom is lucky to have you, always amazing to see people be proactive about medicine. Best wishes !
Hi Doc great idea but I have evolv (UK) and I don’t see how you can share? Also you can delete someone else’s reading via the app if need be - Go to BP tile in App ‘tap’ then ‘3 dots menu’ tap all stored data, then pick the ‘line’ which is someone else’s ‘tap’ and then at bottom of page ‘delete’ entry 🤗
Had the Withings first gen and the warranty and the battery cover we’re HORRIBLE. One year on any medical device is indicative that you shouldn’t take it seriously. Checking what the warrantees are now.
Love you review! Thank you! It helped me make a decision regarding which one to buy. I went with the Withings. Just got it today....I love it......BUT.....It's not as straightforward to set up with multiple users....I'm pulling my hair trying to figure out how to do it!
Ah yea the experience could be improved for sure. Good to hear you are being proactive about your health, what gets measured gets improved!
Thank you for this review, very clear and helpful. Can you give us a list of the other ones you tried out, and maybe a few "runners up"?
Google it.
@@ew374 I don't think he was talking to you. "Google it". What a rude response, but typical of many trolls out there.
@@PatchesCody 👈and now who👆 is now up into it calling people trolls. 😂 LOL. sticks and stones, goodbye lonely planet 🤣
great review! just what i was lookin to find out.
I’m surprised at the prices quoted for the Omron Evolv. In UK, the cheapest is £105!! I want to get the Garmin Index BPM but it is not available in UK. The lack of automatic syncing for Evolv is also disappointing and quite ‘clunky’.
The omron has papers on PubMed in pregnancy and they are calibrated for pre-eclampsia.
I think i will go with the withings
Thanks for the review the bpm is cheaper where I live
I'm owning both the Omron Evolv and the Withings BPM connect rigth now for a comparison. And am comparing. As I have the Withings scale the app works great also with the BPM all data. A big up for the Withings' software and freedom (direct wifi upload and great dashboard). Omron has a poor app and no online dashboard. But then again the Omron is very consistent with the measurements. BPM connect : when playing with the height on my arm and pressure of the band it varies a lot. Omron has a better fitting technology and even says a code E1 if it's too loose or E4 error if you move to much and such. I keep both of them right now to compare and will decide after one week which one to keep. So at the moment Omron: wins on trustworty data (consistency) en Withings wins on software (mobile/dashboard). As Omron is a big player in the Bp market I guess they will improve the App soon.
Note: sharing data on Android is a bit frustrating : Health mate won't sync BP tot Google Fit nor Samsung Health (only steps). I like to have different perspectives on data. Will update soon.
Valentijn Langendorff yes keep us updated on your findings and thanks for sharing! If all else is the same for you, but you just enjoy using one over the other and it will motivate you to continue checking your bp as a healthy habit then go with that one!
@@KoiAcademy haha will do that a bit expensive but hey I like to experiment...
Very thorough, thank you doc!
Bilge Tanyeri thanks for watching!
Well done, to the point and a pleasure to watch! Thanks!
Let me guess without watching the video, he's not going to actually measure BP with them and compare to hospital grade medical device. He's going to tell us that both are good and we should choose the one fits our needs better.
100% correct
Hmm... I tried the OMRON EVOLV a few months ago and returned it (I don't recall exactly why). Now I think I should give it another shot. I have the Omron HEM-780 upper arm monitor, an Omron Series 10 wrist monitor, a Panasonic, and a couple others. (BTW... I have had such accurate and consistent readings from the Omron *WRIST* device that I stopped using others to double check. It is 100% in sync with the Omron HEM-780 *_AND_* the Evolv.) But every few years I like to try see what else is out there, hence... Thanks for posting!!!
Great review and really helpful.
In Sweden the pricing is swapped. The Withing goes for around €100, and the Omron is twice that.
So when the withings no longer holds a charge throw it in the trash ,with the omron just replace the batteries and keep checking your blood pressure .
Joe Manta hahaha I suppose so, great point 😂
Well said! standard replaceable rechargeable battery is always better! Works even during blackout if you have a hoard of batteries.
@@nsevv Or you can use portable power charger during blackouts if using Withings
It's actually a good thing that they use replaceable batteries and not an internal rechargeable battery. Simply because all rechargeable lithium batteries deteriorate in a couple of years, at some point they just don't hold a charge and you'd have to either send it for replacement battery or buy a new one. Having them use regular replaceable batteries makes them be a device that will last for years if not decades (if everything else works fine in them). You can always use rechargeable AA/AAA NiMH batteries.
Extremely helpful! Thank you
I've got a Withings scale. Great quality but really poor software. There is NO way to print pdf and send a list of the past measurements. It just gives out the last one (so total useless). My ejection depends on this feature. Can you tell me about that?
thank you for the great Video. I have the Iphone 13 and not sure wich one i buy.
What field do these guys have their doctorates in? I see nowhere on the website what type of doctors they are.
Nice talk. Thanks. I was not able to see my measurements on the Pixel phone. The devices were paired successfully but no data on the phone or website. Bluetooth and location were on. I took 6 consecutive measurements and got a 70% inconsistency of the readings with a max discrepancy of 15mmHg. I am going to return it.
How do you like the Garmin index? Thank you
The Withings is not for old people who already struggle with tech stuff. I'm already on my second one. The first one was a dud the second one all of a sudden did not sync with my phone anymore. Tried the chat line, good luck. Takes forever to get a live person on the line and then looooong pauses between Q and A. So now I write everything down in a booklet. Should've just kept on using my old battery operated Omron, or whatever Walmart sells, one.
Thank You. Most likely purchasing the EVOLV based on ease of use in a single person household
I returned the Evolv because its +20 on Systolic and Diastolic compared to the Doctor's.
@@MightyCrazy ... Is it possible the cuff was too tight?
@@romanticdonkey468 I got a replacement and all is well now.
Great review. What about Wellue?
would you still have gone with the omron over the withings now
Hi Doctor. My 60 year old mother has continual high blood pressure i meed to monitor. Which machine would you recommend ? Anything that checks for more health conditions would also be useful. Thank you.
Thank you for the great reviews? Have you looked at the iHealth Neo Wireless BPM? Can you please do a review on that one?
I’ve got the big arm issue. I was hoping you’d mention it. Thanks for the reviews!
Aaron J haha always happy to help, thanks for watching!
Yes i need to know which is better for larger arms. I believe mine are 17" round
On 3 Jan 2020 the Withings was $79.95 on Amazon. I did buy the Omron for $78.88 early in the day paired to my Samsung Note 9 phone no problem. However the app wasn’t available for my wife’s Samsung 4. So plan to return the Omron and order Withings from Amazon.
Steve aka FlyboyTNS wow the prices are getting competitive, thank you so much for the valuable update, and happy new year!
Almost nothing these days is compatible to Android ver. 5.2 or lower.
Can either of them detect abnormal heart beats?
I personally like removable batteries in omron.
I just purchased the Withings, I'll let you how I like it. Great review by the way. Very clean and straight to the point!!!
Thanks for watching, hope you love it!
update?
Heh, the typical "I'll update you all once I've tried it", followed by radio silence. XD (not a problem, just funny how often it happens)
@@Venryx ok kiddo Yes it is a decent procuct that says what it does it’s right on point
I've gone through 2 Qardios, so after watching this I'm going with the Withings. I like the idea of recharging and NOT buying batteries.
Why 2
I just received the Withings. So far i like the features.
Lindsey John awesome! Keep us updated haha
I prefer my smart watch ecg. I have a manual blood pressure cuff. I am a respiratory therapist.
I didn't heard you talking about the accuracy of the measurements...how reliable are the numbers ?
Just FYI, because I don’t know if this has changed in the time since this video was made or if anyone else has mentioned it, but (6:22) I recently bought the Omron Evolv and I’m able to delete a reading by swiping left and pressing the trashcan icon to remove it. I’ve had to do that a few times when I manually entered readings thinking the device wasn’t paired, then later I’d see that there were double entries - the ones I entered manually and the ones that were transferred from the device - so I deleted the duplicates.
Thank you! This really helped navigate the whole bp monitor world. Was hoping for a reliable cuff, but looks like the Withings for me.
Avianna Jones thanks for watching, and always glad to help!
Which one is best ?
Great video. Told me everything I needed to know. Thanks!
Thorough review. I think the Withings interests me more. However, is there data on the life cycle of the battery since it's a rechargeable? What happens when the battery no longer accepts a charge? Can it be changed? Consumer or factory? Thank you
I agree. That's one reason I chose an Omron. I like that mine uses common, user-replaceable, AA batteries. Rechargeable AAs work just fine.
Is Bp A2 classic from microlife any good?
I just bought it But I still have the receipt....
Appreciate your opinion
Thanks
nice video this sounds the way to go. I currently have a omron series 3 arm cuff machine. Time to upgrade so I can keep track on my phone & send or print data.
I was real sick with a cold or flu so I went to an urgent care since it was 8pm my doctor was closed. They took blood pressure out of protocol as part of the check up and I was 165/83. They took it on my right arm, over my long sleeve dress shirt, and my arm was hanging down just laying next to my side/hip....
I don't think I was given an accurate reading at all? And they freaked me out. I bought the Omron 3 the very next day and it's consistent around 130/73
I'm 28 yr old, male, kinda lazy office job 6'5" 227lb
I'm hoping that dr office reading was off. It's been freaking me out....
have a withings connect. had the original also. been using it consistently. took it to doctor today and it read consistently 20 points higher on sys/dia. showed me above 180/110. even after the doctor took my measurements that where 20 points lower . even verified that i was putting it on right and sitting right. also read a lot of reviews everywhere about it doing it to others....... can't really trust it imo. will be purchasing the omron evolv to compare then take to doctor.
did you ever get the evolv? if so how did you find it compared to the withings accuracy wise?
@@th3drizzl378 So far the omron evolv has been good. within 5 points up or down approx. from doctor readings. not recharable like the withings. 4 triple 's. The newest app is pretty decent on android. give's you reminders and tips so you can get a sample of data to give the doctor. finally got my bp where the doctors wanted it.
You should show the apps for these two devices.
What are the options for those of us who don't use apps at all and just want a simple blood pressure reading.
I hate that omron is not going with time and just implement a type c plug. We live in 2024. Batteries are useful for travelling but 99% i measure blood pressure, i'm at home near a plug and not in the mountains. Even while travelling, i'd prefer to use usb c. It runs on 6v 1A, it would be so easy to implement. I also don't want to carry extra batteries when travelling or replace them once a week
I contacted omron and they're saying there is no plans to implement that in the future.
This is an old video but I really hope you can answer. You said you bought rechargeable batteries for your evolve monitor by OMRON . I want to use rechargeable batteries with my OMRON evolve but the instructions say that only alkaline batteries should be used. I don’t see how using rechargeable batteries would ruin my monitor. Are you using yours with rechargeable batteries?
I bought the Withings Connect. Also have an inexpensive Omron. I liked the Withings so much
I also bought the bath scale and the smart watch. Now all my info in one app.
Wish they made a blood glucose monitor.
Just ordered the Withings BPM Connect, will let you know how I get on
How do you like the Withings one so far?
Shhh, we don’t say the A name.
Lol, great video
Mika
A? 🤔 Lol what?
What do you think about Beurer BM85..tnx for you opinion.👍
Did you compare results between different monitors at the same time to confirm accuracy? I have the BPM Connect and a more traditional tubed device, and have been making consecutive measurements every day to compare. The Whithings seems to consistently under-report deviation from the norm, i.e. the other device reports in the range of 115-145 and the Withings always reports 120-125 at the same time...
thanks just orderedWithings
Thanks for the review! Really well done and the detail is hugely appreciated! Are there any new ones worth considering? I would love to see a remake of this video if there are. Also what do you think about the Omron SpotArm design which seems to eliminate problems with fitting the device? Looks really convenient
Salsa & Bachata Stars TV thank you so much for watching! The spot arm design is a great idea and I’m sure a lot of people would appreciate how convenient it is to use. Personally I prefer more portable devices. And yes there is always something better, the omron heartguide and the withings bpm core are both devices to consider if you are willing to spend the money haha. I guess a remake of this video could talk about those next tier devices but it would be too out of budget for most people when they are already finding good reliability with more affordable options
Great points! You helped me settle on the Connect, it seems like the right choice for my family. But I’m still having some doubts about that newer Core, would love to see you review it or the wristwatch one. They are expensive and that’s exactly why I’m interested to see how accurate their readings are and how useful an ECG is from just a couple of electrodes. Anyway, thank you once again for a great video!!!
What about one with an extra large cuff?