I disagree Fatima did tell Zac that they should get him and the mother help Zac wasn’t feeling it with the mother but he did tell his brother that they would support him. I’ve said before about Fatima never being held accountable for anything she does because she beat Hayden and almost killed him she messed Hayden house up and was arrested as well but her die hard fans justify that as riding for her man. Zac didn’t leave her and admonish her to the extent she’s doing for him. Fatima lied to Zac about Dr. Reid and we seen the affect of it and Zac said Fatima dealbreaker is no lying but yet here she go again lying to him after he begged for the truth. She didn’t give him the respect and honesty she requires from him so in my opinion she is just as responsible for what has happened.
Fatima needs to face jail time she gets away with way too much and when she has others around her they suffer consequences but not her and some the stuff she did can get you locked up for at least 10 plus years if she was to do it irl she ran Zack over, she busted into Hayden house and destroyed everything, she walked into Karen home unannounced and idc what you say about ‘’the door being open’’ it’s still wrong and rude af especially if you paying no bills, she threw daja’s wine at the wall shattering it, crashed her party breaking an expensive speaker, dragged her out the hottub by her hair, and I could go on all and the relationship between her and Zac is always hot and cold they can’t go 5 minutes without having an argument even if it’s of the littlest of things like that time she cooked Zac dinner and he said it’s alright and she got offended like somebody killed her dog 🙄 I mean he said it’s was good what she wanted him to do give her a pat on the head or something? I think sitting in the cell may straighten her out so she can reflect and think ‘’is this the kind of mother I wanna be? Do I wanna bring a child into my mess and drama? Is the is the kind of role model I wanna set as a parent? 🤔
Good point when she cooked the food and he said it's alright but how many times has Zac cooked for her reaction was either criticism or less enthusiastic. This is a prime example of the bias views on her and Zac.
@@TruthB4Dishonoroh and she tried to make Zac sleep on the couch in his own home and got pissed when he said he wasn’t sleeping on the couch in his own home like bitch it’s HIS house just cause you moved in don’t mean nothing if he wanted to he could literally kick you out and you can do nothing about it especially if your name ain’t on the bills or lease
I agree. She gets many passes. It's ridiculous and honestly it's the very mind of TP. It's a fabric in most of the stuff he writes...Maxine's baby I guess. Like Dr Reid has asked twice now to basically counsel her and have her deal with herself and while it maybe a small conflict of interest since he's Zac's therapist, she needs help too.
The only one who can completely check Bryce outside of what Zac has been doing is Angela since she’s the reason they were all introduced. And she’s not the best candidate for that and I think that’s why Preston was brought in to be in middle man. Fatima could use someone who would clock her tea when she’s wrong and interestingly enough that seems to be Connie to an extent. She’s not fearful of Fatima so she doesn’t get loud or feel threatened by her. For those saying Fatima doesn’t stay locked up enough (like we want to see anyone constantly in jail on these kind of shows) she is Madam’s cousin. I’m sure somebody doesn’t know they did a crossover episode on Sistas and Zatima featuring Madam. Fatima is connected so she wouldn’t be jammed up too long anyway. There are characters that need to be replaced that are holding down the storyline or they need to have them do something else like Belinda and Bryce. I will say Angela too.
It's giving you are biased and have a problem with Fatima. It's not surprising to me because I already know you are a Zac fan. You will always try to justify a lot of the bullshit he does and make Fatima look like the bad guy. The cops told you in that episode they aren't taking Deja seriously. They told her it was a civil matter, which means she can take her to court and sue for damages. When Fatima was arrested, she didn't make it a point to have him help her. She was trying to be out of jail before he was even aware of it. I'll also say this, outside of Hayden what long-term drama has Fatima brought to their relationship. At the moment, none. Zac has brought two disrespectful ass baby mama's that they won't give him the balls to put in their place. Now she's going to be helping him raise those kids. I'm sure a lot of the fans feel like, if I have to put up with all the shit from your past relationships, she's free to get away with whatever they write her to get away with.
@url0veang3l you hit it right on the money. I've been trying to tell people that the shit that Fatima has done isn't much compared to Zac. She got her consequences when she messed up Haydens house. She went to jail. You are correct, her intentions were to be out of jail before Zac found out and in fact, she didn't want Zac to know because she knew exactly what he would do. She's calmed down on everything to me. Look at Hayden. She set Tamera up with him to play around to keep him out of her ans Zacs business, but the minute she found out they got married, she felt bad. She has spared Karen more than most because Lord knows if Karen wasn't pregnant, her disrespectful ass would get a bear down. Zac went and slept with Karen in the same day week as he was sleeping with Fatima. Yes, they wrent official, but neither were dealing with anyone else. It was wrong, period. The he got her pregnant. Thats grounds for termination/breakup. Then the other baby mama. She accepted all of that. Then Zac walkimg around jumping up for joy that he got another woman pregnant. Then when he found out they were twins, I believe he said "I put two of them thangs in there" right in front of his fiance. Yeah, it doesn't get anymore disrespectful as that. Then how he acted when he though Karen was dead. The list goes on. Fatima has given this man more grace than she should. In fact, on how many occasions did Zac mention how thankful he was to have her and how all of everything he has taken her through is too much. Yep, Fatima deserves not only grace but a pass for the little petty bs she has done. She has yet to bring Zac any real drama. She deserves to feel exactly how she wants in my book. I'm a Zac and Fatima fan, but I'm not about to sit here and attempt to compare the bs when there's no comparison. We need to see some growth and understanding from Zac asap
Fatima not telling Zac about being in jail lead to Zac being in jail. Idc she should have been the one to be woman enough to tell him before Hayden. Just like she should have told Zac about Jeremiah. It's technically a violation because Fatima has a open case for assault and criminal damage against Deja so once again Fatima actions is unaccounted for. You asked what long term drama Fatima bought to the relationship and said at the moment none. Zac actions is a reaction to Fatima's doing I feel they are equally toxic and BOTH need to seek help.
@TruthB4Dishonor lol Andi got to Fatima before Zac did. That fool still was going to whoop Hayden ass and we know. It, Fatima still didn't make Zac whooped his brother until almost death. He was going to do that regardless. If you go back and watch sisters, the same hot head and temper we see when he I'd with Fatima, he was got headed with Karen as well. Just like he busted in that hotel room and fought Aaron. He knew wtf they were in there doing. He could have accepted it and walked away. Nope, he busted in and attempted to beat that ass and got locked up in which Fatima backed him out. I'm guessing it was Fatima fault that he beat uo Aaron the 2nd time in the restaurant when he confronted Karen. Fatima asked him a simple question, and that was WTF is this meaning the picture that looked like they kissed. She straight up told him it didn't come from Karen, but he insisted and stormed out. Fatima didn't make him snatch Karen's arm and then proceed to fight Aaron. That's all Zac. Just like Fatima didn't tell Zac to go confront Gary about his money, then punch Gary when he doesn't like the response (Gary deserved that punch). Did Fatima tell Zac to go at Paul in that elevator. Nope, he did that on his own after he know damn well Fatima would never cheat on him or disrespect him in that way. He wouldn't listen at all. We can sit here and say all day what both of them did and who needs to show accountability or repercussions, but Fatima has done better, and she hasn't done worse than him. She hasn't regressed at all. You can't let it slip with him because he's gone overboard and regressed. There is no change in those terms. At least Fatima can be talked down and reason with you. Zac doesn't. Her shit is small time compared to him. Again, it's not even just him doing this. It's also about everything he's taking this woman through. He even said he wish she had drama. He's doing way too much, especially with them having a baby and getting married.
Jeremy I have been watching sisters and Fatima character and from the day she met Zach until now she has helped him when he want in jail for breaking into the hotel where Aaron and Karen was in until now she has had his back she's been fighting and standing up for him since day one how many times did she rescue him from jail only for him to end up there so excuse her if she's upset because this time he put his self in and everybody tried to stop him so she has the right to be upset and angry Because her getting them out and keep coming to his rescue and helping him only made him think that she was going to do the same thing standby why he keeps making the same decisions and he's a father now of three children the two that the one that's already here the one in her belly and the one Karen is having It's time for him to take a stand for him and their relationship if you listen to the the conversation that she had with him in the jail she told him you made me promises and you broke everyone when you decided to do this and he said to her, I knew it could be a chance that this would happen that speaks volume to me I'm not taking up for her but I understand her. so my question to you why do you think that Zach did this and he wasn't all about Fatima either you need to do your research and find out what's going on with Zach because when the officer was interrogating him in that room as soon as he brought up, his mother and father here comes the anger again I don't believe it's about Fatima and I don't believe it's about Jeremiah. Remember that.
@TruthB4Dishonor it's same both tore a house up. But with that said, Fatima tore a house up to tear a house up. She didn't tear a house up to get to somebody to whoop they ass until they got tired and pray that it didn't end in death. Thats what Zac did. He went to Belinda house in hopes of whooping Jeremiah ass. He openly told Fatima to pray he got tired so he wouldn't die. Big difference. She didn't hurt anyone
Zac and Connie have a past but they should not be together. They should remain close friends but not romantically. She knows his past and his family's past. Connie understands Zac's love and devotion for Fatima. She wants Zac happy and she knows Fatima makes him happy
Jeremy, you are right 100%. What's understood needs no explanation. I love Fatima, but there is never any answerability with her. Also, not sure why the writers have Zac going in such a different direction as before. Same with Danny. It's getting to the point where I'm quickly losing interest in the show. It's literally all over the place and not in a good way.
Jeremy, I truly agree and I am a big Zack and Fatima fan. She gets away with too much. It’s just so unrealistic always disciplining him like a child and when she acts like a child, nothing happens she gets rewarded in other words.
So I get what you’re saying about everyone needing to face their consequences because Fatima has done some off the wall stuff and seemingly got off pretty easy but she also had to deal with a lot as a result of Zac’s behavior. However, I think the issue is that Zac has more to lose. Him getting arrested could land in jail for life and he has a child and 2 on the way and he just got his life on track. As for Bryce I think him being screwed over by Gary, losing all his money, punched in the face by Zac, called a disappointment by his dad and being dumped by Angela on top of being so depressed that he wanted to kill himself seems like a lot of consequences already. I don’t think anyone was excusing what Bryce did but Bryce all ready was beating himself up and felt so guilty that it almost didn’t make sense to keep punishing him in my opinion. I think everyone pointing out Jeremiah’s addiction wasn’t to justify his behavior but to get him to realize that it’s not worth it but Zac literally said as he was beating Jeremiah that he waited his whole life.
Aren't these two expecting a child of their own, stop the anger thats not safe to raise anyone in that type of home. Fatima has Madame to take care of these people without hurting herself with child. Yes Zac and Fatima needs anger management not jail. The police could've put Jeremiah into forced rehabilitation. Who gave Bryce the ok without signing a contract that needs both signatures on spending the funds for business. Writers pay attention to season before. They all need positive growrh and healing. What happened to Robin setting Hayden up to fail, fire him already. ,Enough is enough , where is Zac's father. I'm waiting for the missing link. When hes a successful business man not a pimp, and Micheal Rainy Jr. as Zac's half brother or Father can teach him a few steps to an easier life and no jail time ever again. Angie should be Bryce woman, and she can save his partnership with Zac, or can she, this is a goodtime to part ways with Bryce. Bryce family has money go home man. ,Zac can Keeps his side clean and prosperous alone. Some kinda friends Tony, and Nate turned out to be . Brothers need to growup, get a life. God don't include everybody in his plans for Zac and Fatima. IJS
Jeremy, I truly agree and I am a big Zack and Fatima fan. She gets away with too much. It’s just so unrealistic always disciplining him like a child and when she acts like a child, nothing happens she gets rewarded , glorified. Feeling the same way Jeremy and it’s not just for the season but a lot of past seasons I’ve been noticing how everything falls on Zac
I 💯 agree with you. I feel like Fatima is always playing mamma! She has to teach him a lesson by leaving him but all the crap that she has done, he has had to just understand her anger or her behavior.
I love zatima she is my girl but she just was as wrong as zac was she should have told him the truth as well and maybe it would nt have got to this point
People are talking about. The consequences for Fatima. If im not mistaken, she has gotten it. What dud she do thata comparable to Zac. On sistas, she tore Haydens house apart, and guess what. She we t to jail. She set Tamera up with hayden. That's not a crime. Zac beat Hayden up for Fatima and went to jail. They got the same consequences, which was jail, and they both were out before you know it. What we have seen from Fatima on both sistas and Zatima is a little bit of character growth. You have to take that small amount and be proud of anything dealing with Tyler Perry. But we can't compare anything she's done to Zac. He flys off the handle and can't be talked down. You can't talk Fatima down and get her to calm done. Not Zac. People are really blaming Fatima for Zac hudting hus brother. Let's just remember how Zac has been acting. She lied to protect him. To protect them and what they have. Fatima move a little differently now due to her being pregnant and them being engaged and further in their relationship. Theres a reason why none of them wanted to tell Zac. Had they told him the day it happened rather than 2 days later, his brother would have just gotten an ass whooping two days earlier, and we know this. This is on Zac and his issues that need to be dealt with. Bottonline, Zac has to go to therapy and get to the root of all of this. Zac didn't act like he was an engaged man with a baby on the way. I dont blame Fatima for putting her foot down and being this hurt and confused. I know they will be together, but Zac needs to sit in this for a minute. Not to suffer, but to learn and understand that certain things have to change because he has a family now.
If they both are known for flying off the handle why isn't their actions viewed equally? I want to point out Fatima impulsive actions (yes I like Fatima) this is not a bash but awareness. Going to Andi house with the tote bag, pulling a knife on Gary, Hitting Deja and slapping Nate, messing up Deja home, shooting at Belinda, shoving Heather head into wall, calling Madame on Heather boyfriend and shooting her gun, slapping Zac and walking in Karen house? Let's talk about it
@TruthB4Dishonor you're correct. She's done her shit, but with that said, she has yet to act in the nature that Zac has acted. Not excusing her, but she's seemed to blame down a bit compared to Zac. She holds back more now and I believe it's more so that theyvare engaged and she's pregnant. They have both had the same consequences if you look at. She went to jail and so did Zac. The only difference is, Zacs will be harsher because he has a record and he tends to do shit on the open. Hence beating Haydens ass up and through that law office 😆. Fighting Aaron in that restaurant, and damn near killing Jeremiah in the projects. The only thing we see Fatima do as of lately is mess up Dejas house. We see Fatima now take different approaches even when she's about to go off. Hence the meditating. The pausing before she reacts to calm herself down. I believe it's an attempt from TP that there's some sort of growth, and I thought that's what we were getting from Zac, but sheesh he's regressed with that pent up anger. I love them as a couple. I'm just hoping TP do right by them ans right something better because their story could be so much better without all of this unnecessary drama.
That's my thing everyone says Fatima is changing due to her being pregnant or whatever else. Which I totally agree she is but because she has decided to now make that change it doesn't mean Zac has to be in that same mindset as her. I want people to separate the two of them for two reasons because he's a man and we know men sometimes mature slower than women and they have their foolish pride when it comes to protecting their family and also Zac need to have his own road to redemption and healing outside of Fatima and her actions because he was screwed up way before Fatima entered his life it's deeper than that.
@TruthB4Dishonor but that's the thing is there shouldn't be an excuse based on gender. I hate the excuse that men mature later than women. This man has gone on a limb and has mentioned changing his ways and doing better, and even has said, "WE" have to do better. His whole point of therapy was to gain understanding and doing better. He sat in that office with Fatima when she told him she was pregnant about being there for his kid and be a better man, yet he went and damn near beat his brother to death. Look, I love them both and like some of the drama just to keep it spicy and entertaining without going too far, but I think people are more so on Zacs ass because he had absolutely no remorse. He made it seem like he had a gun to his head and had to do it. He asked what other choice did he have. The look on Fatimas face. She was distraught and hopeless because it just wasn't needed or worth it, yet his response was it was worth it. She hit it on the head when she said their love and what they had wasnt enough. His response was as if he doesn't have a fiance or baby on the way. Like, if you go to jail for the rest of your life, what about your wife and child. This isn't like the times when they are trying to save each other from petty bs from Hayden, Deja, or Gary. This was different. This man has a whole fiance who is early in her pregnancy. He doesn't have to be at Fatimas pace in growth. They haven't been through the same thing, but when you have something to lose like a wife and kid for something where he could have waited and calm down and talk to his brother or at least considered Fatimas feelings and situation. He honestly sat there in her face with no remorse and told her not to me be mad. That girl was beyond devastated. And to go further, Preston was correct as well when he got on Zacs ass. Before he did it, Fatima warned him, his barber warned him, and his therapist warned him. His attitude is like he doesn't want to be a sucka or punk...he's a man. This wasn't fun and games like what him and Fatima usually do. This was different. I believe this will be when we see him learn and grow because he was more hurt thinking he will lose Fatima than spending the rest of his life in jail. We all know this couple is end game and won't be done for good. TP just has to go to extremes for that entertainment and shock factor. I believe his goal is to show how ride or die a couple can be, the different traumas people have and how they work through it and get past it, acceptance and truly loving unconditionally, and some people changing for the best when the right person thats worth changing for comes along and believes in you.
Wth are you watching Zac gets the most grace out of all the characters but he does the most he dosent consider that girl feelings and how u compare that hospital scene when he told her to talk to the doctors she was too busy trying to console him… im a fan of them both and sweetie you not stating facts 😂😂 Chile I can go on & on but it’s giving …. Yea lmao
@ actually he asked her to handle it ! Sweetie everyone was trying to protect this childish grown man he does not get a pass yes she should have told him the action still would have been the same !
@@Chaitae7we can't say it would have still been the same because he wasn't giving the opportunity. Zac is a man and Fatima impedes on his role too often and doesn't like Zac reaction once he's made aware. Just as she did with Paul and the tire. Also, sge in fact volunteered and said she can handle it and he said would you? the nurse even asked who was she to him.
@ based on his track record on BOTH shows he would of handled it the same way he lacks any accountability on everything Periodt Fatima not perfect but Zac is always in some shit and expects ppl to cuddle him . That’s it that’s all
@@Chaitae7Fatima has a track record as well but since she's changing most overlook her past behavior with the guns and knives,but Zac is not allowed the same reciprocation. I don't think Zac is cuddled either Fatima has never apologized for anything she's done but Zac has to beg, plead and accept everything when he's not always in fault and he's the only one held accountable and judged off past behavior.
Zac does need to pay for his actions. Stop making excuses for Zac. Jeremy don't be so negative, you act like this real life. Remember this just soap opera. Your're not the writers. So blame the writers for the parts that they make the characters perform.
Ok, this is VERY confusing but follow me on this: Bryce was a replacement for Jake (actor from Sistas Season 4 went to another show) and basically Jake's storyline was given to Bryce. In Sistas, Fatima told Zac to be wary of someone working with/for Gary. However, time went on showing Fatima that Jake/Bryce was doing a lot of positive things for Zac and backed off. Here's my issue: even after Bryce tried to make a move on Zac, Fatima basically told him to get over it because he's done so much good for you. It was giving off 'casting couch' vibes IMO.
Fatima always looks out for Zac that’s her concern and She trying to save Zac so they can grow in their relationship. You are full of shit . Because you not talking facts you talking more of your opinion and get so hyped over a script , so you trying keeping it alive for your channel and keep making money.
He's a reaction channel giving his opinion while allowing others to do the same. He doesn't seem as hyped as you over a script because you have gotten personal in why and how he's structured HIS channel.
I feel Fatima needs to spend more time in jail I’m sorry but she gets away with way too much shit and it doesn’t seem like she faces any consequences for her actions if you can look back all the way from season 7 she destroys Hayden’s property, she smashed Daja’s hand in a locker and threw her bottle of wine on the wall of the house and wrecked her party and speaker, she walked up into Karen’s home and idc what anyone says about how she said she was gonna leave the door open you still don’t just bust into anyone’s home like you pay the bills🙄 she showed up at the hospital knowing that Karen would feel some type of way, oh and season 6 she threw her engagement ring in Zac’s Face why do that if you really love your partner? Who the hell is sitting here throwing out jewelry especially as something as expensive as a wedding ring just seems everything she do she gets off Scott free and it’s annoying it’s one of the many reasons I stopped watching the show because she faces 0 consequences for her actions and that’s not how it works in life I’m glad these two aren’t together irl cause mannn 😳….
Jeremy I'll agreed with you because Fatima asked like she Zach Mama not his woman I'll don't like how their hating on Karen and how their won't Fatima to beat Karen up Fatima begging to show her truce color
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I disagree Fatima did tell Zac that they should get him and the mother help Zac wasn’t feeling it with the mother but he did tell his brother that they would support him. I’ve said before about Fatima never being held accountable for anything she does because she beat Hayden and almost killed him she messed Hayden house up and was arrested as well but her die hard fans justify that as riding for her man. Zac didn’t leave her and admonish her to the extent she’s doing for him. Fatima lied to Zac about Dr. Reid and we seen the affect of it and Zac said Fatima dealbreaker is no lying but yet here she go again lying to him after he begged for the truth. She didn’t give him the respect and honesty she requires from him so in my opinion she is just as responsible for what has happened.
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Fatima needs to face jail time she gets away with way too much and when she has others around her they suffer consequences but not her and some the stuff she did can get you locked up for at least 10 plus years if she was to do it irl she ran Zack over, she busted into Hayden house and destroyed everything, she walked into Karen home unannounced and idc what you say about ‘’the door being open’’ it’s still wrong and rude af especially if you paying no bills, she threw daja’s wine at the wall shattering it, crashed her party breaking an expensive speaker, dragged her out the hottub by her hair, and I could go on all and the relationship between her and Zac is always hot and cold they can’t go 5 minutes without having an argument even if it’s of the littlest of things like that time she cooked Zac dinner and he said it’s alright and she got offended like somebody killed her dog 🙄 I mean he said it’s was good what she wanted him to do give her a pat on the head or something? I think sitting in the cell may straighten her out so she can reflect and think ‘’is this the kind of mother I wanna be? Do I wanna bring a child into my mess and drama? Is the is the kind of role model I wanna set as a parent? 🤔
Good point when she cooked the food and he said it's alright but how many times has Zac cooked for her reaction was either criticism or less enthusiastic. This is a prime example of the bias views on her and Zac.
@@TruthB4Dishonoroh and she tried to make Zac sleep on the couch in his own home and got pissed when he said he wasn’t sleeping on the couch in his own home like bitch it’s HIS house just cause you moved in don’t mean nothing if he wanted to he could literally kick you out and you can do nothing about it especially if your name ain’t on the bills or lease
I agree. She gets many passes. It's ridiculous and honestly it's the very mind of TP. It's a fabric in most of the stuff he writes...Maxine's baby I guess. Like Dr Reid has asked twice now to basically counsel her and have her deal with herself and while it maybe a small conflict of interest since he's Zac's therapist, she needs help too.
He loves her and even with all his flaws.
The only one who can completely check Bryce outside of what Zac has been doing is Angela since she’s the reason they were all introduced. And she’s not the best candidate for that and I think that’s why Preston was brought in to be in middle man.
Fatima could use someone who would clock her tea when she’s wrong and interestingly enough that seems to be Connie to an extent. She’s not fearful of Fatima so she doesn’t get loud or feel threatened by her. For those saying Fatima doesn’t stay locked up enough (like we want to see anyone constantly in jail on these kind of shows) she is Madam’s cousin. I’m sure somebody doesn’t know they did a crossover episode on Sistas and Zatima featuring Madam. Fatima is connected so she wouldn’t be jammed up too long anyway.
There are characters that need to be replaced that are holding down the storyline or they need to have them do something else like Belinda and Bryce. I will say Angela too.
It's giving you are biased and have a problem with Fatima. It's not surprising to me because I already know you are a Zac fan. You will always try to justify a lot of the bullshit he does and make Fatima look like the bad guy.
The cops told you in that episode they aren't taking Deja seriously. They told her it was a civil matter, which means she can take her to court and sue for damages.
When Fatima was arrested, she didn't make it a point to have him help her. She was trying to be out of jail before he was even aware of it.
I'll also say this, outside of Hayden what long-term drama has Fatima brought to their relationship. At the moment, none. Zac has brought two disrespectful ass baby mama's that they won't give him the balls to put in their place. Now she's going to be helping him raise those kids. I'm sure a lot of the fans feel like, if I have to put up with all the shit from your past relationships, she's free to get away with whatever they write her to get away with.
@url0veang3l you hit it right on the money. I've been trying to tell people that the shit that Fatima has done isn't much compared to Zac. She got her consequences when she messed up Haydens house. She went to jail. You are correct, her intentions were to be out of jail before Zac found out and in fact, she didn't want Zac to know because she knew exactly what he would do. She's calmed down on everything to me. Look at Hayden. She set Tamera up with him to play around to keep him out of her ans Zacs business, but the minute she found out they got married, she felt bad. She has spared Karen more than most because Lord knows if Karen wasn't pregnant, her disrespectful ass would get a bear down. Zac went and slept with Karen in the same day week as he was sleeping with Fatima. Yes, they wrent official, but neither were dealing with anyone else. It was wrong, period. The he got her pregnant. Thats grounds for termination/breakup. Then the other baby mama. She accepted all of that. Then Zac walkimg around jumping up for joy that he got another woman pregnant. Then when he found out they were twins, I believe he said "I put two of them thangs in there" right in front of his fiance. Yeah, it doesn't get anymore disrespectful as that. Then how he acted when he though Karen was dead. The list goes on. Fatima has given this man more grace than she should. In fact, on how many occasions did Zac mention how thankful he was to have her and how all of everything he has taken her through is too much. Yep, Fatima deserves not only grace but a pass for the little petty bs she has done. She has yet to bring Zac any real drama. She deserves to feel exactly how she wants in my book. I'm a Zac and Fatima fan, but I'm not about to sit here and attempt to compare the bs when there's no comparison. We need to see some growth and understanding from Zac asap
Fatima not telling Zac about being in jail lead to Zac being in jail. Idc she should have been the one to be woman enough to tell him before Hayden. Just like she should have told Zac about Jeremiah. It's technically a violation because Fatima has a open case for assault and criminal damage against Deja so once again Fatima actions is unaccounted for. You asked what long term drama Fatima bought to the relationship and said at the moment none. Zac actions is a reaction to Fatima's doing I feel they are equally toxic and BOTH need to seek help.
@TruthB4Dishonor lol Andi got to Fatima before Zac did. That fool still was going to whoop Hayden ass and we know. It, Fatima still didn't make Zac whooped his brother until almost death. He was going to do that regardless. If you go back and watch sisters, the same hot head and temper we see when he I'd with Fatima, he was got headed with Karen as well. Just like he busted in that hotel room and fought Aaron. He knew wtf they were in there doing. He could have accepted it and walked away. Nope, he busted in and attempted to beat that ass and got locked up in which Fatima backed him out. I'm guessing it was Fatima fault that he beat uo Aaron the 2nd time in the restaurant when he confronted Karen. Fatima asked him a simple question, and that was WTF is this meaning the picture that looked like they kissed. She straight up told him it didn't come from Karen, but he insisted and stormed out. Fatima didn't make him snatch Karen's arm and then proceed to fight Aaron. That's all Zac. Just like Fatima didn't tell Zac to go confront Gary about his money, then punch Gary when he doesn't like the response (Gary deserved that punch). Did Fatima tell Zac to go at Paul in that elevator. Nope, he did that on his own after he know damn well Fatima would never cheat on him or disrespect him in that way. He wouldn't listen at all. We can sit here and say all day what both of them did and who needs to show accountability or repercussions, but Fatima has done better, and she hasn't done worse than him. She hasn't regressed at all. You can't let it slip with him because he's gone overboard and regressed. There is no change in those terms. At least Fatima can be talked down and reason with you. Zac doesn't. Her shit is small time compared to him. Again, it's not even just him doing this. It's also about everything he's taking this woman through. He even said he wish she had drama. He's doing way too much, especially with them having a baby and getting married.
@TruthB4Dishonor Zac made a choice to fight Hayden. He could have easily walked away when Andi was trying to explain to him the situation.
@url0veang3l i think Zac reacts like that and his first go to is to fight because he doesn't want to look weak, instead of just walking away.
Jeremy I have been watching sisters and Fatima character and from the day she met Zach until now she has helped him when he want in jail for breaking into the hotel where Aaron and Karen was in until now she has had his back she's been fighting and standing up for him since day one how many times did she rescue him from jail only for him to end up there so excuse her if she's upset because this time he put his self in and everybody tried to stop him so she has the right to be upset and angry Because her getting them out and keep coming to his rescue and helping him only made him think that she was going to do the same thing standby why he keeps making the same decisions and he's a father now of three children the two that the one that's already here the one in her belly and the one Karen is having It's time for him to take a stand for him and their relationship if you listen to the the conversation that she had with him in the jail she told him you made me promises and you broke everyone when you decided to do this and he said to her, I knew it could be a chance that this would happen that speaks volume to me I'm not taking up for her but I understand her. so my question to you why do you think that Zach did this and he wasn't all about Fatima either you need to do your research and find out what's going on with Zach because when the officer was interrogating him in that room as soon as he brought up, his mother and father here comes the anger again I don't believe it's about Fatima and I don't believe it's about Jeremiah. Remember that.
Zac has a lot of anger issues more than Fatima.
You act like Fatima don’t have no issues, and she has a handful.
@@joansmall1961 she had found a way to handle hers and that's meditation and actually trying to do better
She's doing mediation to manage but tore Deja house up does it matter Zac is in therapy and tore Belinda house up? Or is it not the same?
@@joansmall1961 , I really doubt that!
@TruthB4Dishonor it's same both tore a house up. But with that said, Fatima tore a house up to tear a house up. She didn't tear a house up to get to somebody to whoop they ass until they got tired and pray that it didn't end in death. Thats what Zac did. He went to Belinda house in hopes of whooping Jeremiah ass. He openly told Fatima to pray he got tired so he wouldn't die. Big difference. She didn't hurt anyone
Zac and Connie have a past but they should not be together. They should remain close friends but not romantically. She knows his past and his family's past. Connie understands Zac's love and devotion for Fatima. She wants Zac happy and she knows Fatima makes him happy
Jeremy, you are right 100%. What's understood needs no explanation. I love Fatima, but there is never any answerability with her. Also, not sure why the writers have Zac going in such a different direction as before. Same with Danny. It's getting to the point where I'm quickly losing interest in the show. It's literally all over the place and not in a good way.
Tyler Perry writes for Zatima and supposedly there are new writers for Sistas who are not Tyler Perry ( emphasis on supposedly)
I'm team Zac's mental health. I agree with you Zac get blamed for when other people coming for him.
Jeremiah was a bull frog. Was a good friend of mine. Never understood a word he said but he sure could dink some wine. 😊😊
Jeremy, I truly agree and I am a big Zack and Fatima fan. She gets away with too much. It’s just so unrealistic always disciplining him like a child and when she acts like a child, nothing happens she gets rewarded in other words.
So I get what you’re saying about everyone needing to face their consequences because Fatima has done some off the wall stuff and seemingly got off pretty easy but she also had to deal with a lot as a result of Zac’s behavior. However, I think the issue is that Zac has more to lose. Him getting arrested could land in jail for life and he has a child and 2 on the way and he just got his life on track. As for Bryce I think him being screwed over by Gary, losing all his money, punched in the face by Zac, called a disappointment by his dad and being dumped by Angela on top of being so depressed that he wanted to kill himself seems like a lot of consequences already. I don’t think anyone was excusing what Bryce did but Bryce all ready was beating himself up and felt so guilty that it almost didn’t make sense to keep punishing him in my opinion. I think everyone pointing out Jeremiah’s addiction wasn’t to justify his behavior but to get him to realize that it’s not worth it but Zac literally said as he was beating Jeremiah that he waited his whole life.
Jeremiah was offered help, but he has to want the help first and foremost.
Aren't these two expecting a child of their own, stop the anger thats not safe to raise anyone in that type of home. Fatima has Madame to take care of these people without hurting herself with child. Yes Zac and Fatima needs anger management not jail. The police could've put Jeremiah into forced rehabilitation. Who gave Bryce the ok without signing a contract that needs both signatures on spending the funds for business. Writers pay attention to season before. They all need positive growrh and healing. What happened to Robin setting Hayden up to fail, fire him already. ,Enough is enough , where is Zac's father. I'm waiting for the missing link. When hes a successful business man not a pimp, and Micheal Rainy Jr. as Zac's half brother or Father can teach him a few steps to an easier life and no jail time ever again. Angie should be Bryce woman, and she can save his partnership with Zac, or can she, this is a goodtime to part ways with Bryce. Bryce family has money go home man. ,Zac can Keeps his side clean and prosperous alone. Some kinda friends Tony, and Nate turned out to be . Brothers need to growup, get a life. God don't include everybody in his plans for Zac and Fatima. IJS
Jeremy, I truly agree and I am a big Zack and Fatima fan. She gets away with too much. It’s just so unrealistic always disciplining him like a child and when she acts like a child, nothing happens she gets rewarded , glorified.
Feeling the same way Jeremy and it’s not just for the season but a lot of past seasons I’ve been noticing how everything falls on Zac
Fatima in Season 3 is hormonal 1st baby .
I 💯 agree with you. I feel like Fatima is always playing mamma! She has to teach him a lesson by leaving him but all the crap that she has done, he has had to just understand her anger or her behavior.
The writers messed that up when he had Bruce kiss him
I love zatima she is my girl but she just was as wrong as zac was she should have told him the truth as well and maybe it would nt have got to this point
People are talking about. The consequences for Fatima. If im not mistaken, she has gotten it. What dud she do thata comparable to Zac. On sistas, she tore Haydens house apart, and guess what. She we t to jail. She set Tamera up with hayden. That's not a crime. Zac beat Hayden up for Fatima and went to jail. They got the same consequences, which was jail, and they both were out before you know it. What we have seen from Fatima on both sistas and Zatima is a little bit of character growth. You have to take that small amount and be proud of anything dealing with Tyler Perry. But we can't compare anything she's done to Zac. He flys off the handle and can't be talked down. You can't talk Fatima down and get her to calm done. Not Zac. People are really blaming Fatima for Zac hudting hus brother. Let's just remember how Zac has been acting. She lied to protect him. To protect them and what they have. Fatima move a little differently now due to her being pregnant and them being engaged and further in their relationship. Theres a reason why none of them wanted to tell Zac. Had they told him the day it happened rather than 2 days later, his brother would have just gotten an ass whooping two days earlier, and we know this. This is on Zac and his issues that need to be dealt with. Bottonline, Zac has to go to therapy and get to the root of all of this. Zac didn't act like he was an engaged man with a baby on the way. I dont blame Fatima for putting her foot down and being this hurt and confused. I know they will be together, but Zac needs to sit in this for a minute. Not to suffer, but to learn and understand that certain things have to change because he has a family now.
If they both are known for flying off the handle why isn't their actions viewed equally? I want to point out Fatima impulsive actions (yes I like Fatima) this is not a bash but awareness. Going to Andi house with the tote bag, pulling a knife on Gary, Hitting Deja and slapping Nate, messing up Deja home, shooting at Belinda, shoving Heather head into wall, calling Madame on Heather boyfriend and shooting her gun, slapping Zac and walking in Karen house? Let's talk about it
@TruthB4Dishonor you're correct. She's done her shit, but with that said, she has yet to act in the nature that Zac has acted. Not excusing her, but she's seemed to blame down a bit compared to Zac. She holds back more now and I believe it's more so that theyvare engaged and she's pregnant. They have both had the same consequences if you look at. She went to jail and so did Zac. The only difference is, Zacs will be harsher because he has a record and he tends to do shit on the open. Hence beating Haydens ass up and through that law office 😆. Fighting Aaron in that restaurant, and damn near killing Jeremiah in the projects. The only thing we see Fatima do as of lately is mess up Dejas house. We see Fatima now take different approaches even when she's about to go off. Hence the meditating. The pausing before she reacts to calm herself down. I believe it's an attempt from TP that there's some sort of growth, and I thought that's what we were getting from Zac, but sheesh he's regressed with that pent up anger. I love them as a couple. I'm just hoping TP do right by them ans right something better because their story could be so much better without all of this unnecessary drama.
That's my thing everyone says Fatima is changing due to her being pregnant or whatever else. Which I totally agree she is but because she has decided to now make that change it doesn't mean Zac has to be in that same mindset as her. I want people to separate the two of them for two reasons because he's a man and we know men sometimes mature slower than women and they have their foolish pride when it comes to protecting their family and also Zac need to have his own road to redemption and healing outside of Fatima and her actions because he was screwed up way before Fatima entered his life it's deeper than that.
@TruthB4Dishonor but that's the thing is there shouldn't be an excuse based on gender. I hate the excuse that men mature later than women. This man has gone on a limb and has mentioned changing his ways and doing better, and even has said, "WE" have to do better. His whole point of therapy was to gain understanding and doing better. He sat in that office with Fatima when she told him she was pregnant about being there for his kid and be a better man, yet he went and damn near beat his brother to death. Look, I love them both and like some of the drama just to keep it spicy and entertaining without going too far, but I think people are more so on Zacs ass because he had absolutely no remorse. He made it seem like he had a gun to his head and had to do it. He asked what other choice did he have. The look on Fatimas face. She was distraught and hopeless because it just wasn't needed or worth it, yet his response was it was worth it. She hit it on the head when she said their love and what they had wasnt enough. His response was as if he doesn't have a fiance or baby on the way. Like, if you go to jail for the rest of your life, what about your wife and child. This isn't like the times when they are trying to save each other from petty bs from Hayden, Deja, or Gary. This was different. This man has a whole fiance who is early in her pregnancy. He doesn't have to be at Fatimas pace in growth. They haven't been through the same thing, but when you have something to lose like a wife and kid for something where he could have waited and calm down and talk to his brother or at least considered Fatimas feelings and situation. He honestly sat there in her face with no remorse and told her not to me be mad. That girl was beyond devastated. And to go further, Preston was correct as well when he got on Zacs ass. Before he did it, Fatima warned him, his barber warned him, and his therapist warned him. His attitude is like he doesn't want to be a sucka or punk...he's a man. This wasn't fun and games like what him and Fatima usually do. This was different. I believe this will be when we see him learn and grow because he was more hurt thinking he will lose Fatima than spending the rest of his life in jail. We all know this couple is end game and won't be done for good. TP just has to go to extremes for that entertainment and shock factor. I believe his goal is to show how ride or die a couple can be, the different traumas people have and how they work through it and get past it, acceptance and truly loving unconditionally, and some people changing for the best when the right person thats worth changing for comes along and believes in you.
Wth are you watching Zac gets the most grace out of all the characters but he does the most he dosent consider that girl feelings and how u compare that hospital scene when he told her to talk to the doctors she was too busy trying to console him… im a fan of them both and sweetie you not stating facts 😂😂 Chile I can go on & on but it’s giving …. Yea lmao
Actually she volunteered to speak to the doctor on his behalf. Did Fatima consider Zac feelings about her lying to him repeatedly?
@ actually he asked her to handle it ! Sweetie everyone was trying to protect this childish grown man he does not get a pass yes she should have told him the action still would have been the same !
@@Chaitae7we can't say it would have still been the same because he wasn't giving the opportunity. Zac is a man and Fatima impedes on his role too often and doesn't like Zac reaction once he's made aware. Just as she did with Paul and the tire. Also, sge in fact volunteered and said she can handle it and he said would you? the nurse even asked who was she to him.
@ based on his track record on BOTH shows he would of handled it the same way he lacks any accountability on everything Periodt Fatima not perfect but Zac is always in some shit and expects ppl to cuddle him . That’s it that’s all
@@Chaitae7Fatima has a track record as well but since she's changing most overlook her past behavior with the guns and knives,but Zac is not allowed the same reciprocation. I don't think Zac is cuddled either Fatima has never apologized for anything she's done but Zac has to beg, plead and accept everything when he's not always in fault and he's the only one held accountable and judged off past behavior.
I agree and why does a woman always have to teach him a lesson; like Fatima did by sending a guy to say she was the mother of his child! #Childish
Because he’s got a record and she doesn’t!!
Zac does need to pay for his actions. Stop making excuses for Zac. Jeremy don't be so negative, you act like this real life. Remember this just soap opera. Your're not the writers. So blame the writers for the parts that they make the characters perform.
I agree with you, Jeremy 100% is Fatima. It’s going to take responsibility. for her actions it’s OK for her to act the fool , but Zach can’t.
Correct me if I am wrong but didn’t Fatima tell Zac to not hang with Brice?
Ok, this is VERY confusing but follow me on this:
Bryce was a replacement for Jake (actor from Sistas Season 4 went to another show) and basically Jake's storyline was given to Bryce. In Sistas, Fatima told Zac to be wary of someone working with/for Gary.
However, time went on showing Fatima that Jake/Bryce was doing a lot of positive things for Zac and backed off.
Here's my issue: even after Bryce tried to make a move on Zac, Fatima basically told him to get over it because he's done so much good for you. It was giving off 'casting couch' vibes IMO.
@@williamsherrard2833 Bottom line here is you are exactly correct. Yes she did.
I see your point about Zac always have consequences.
Fatima always looks out for Zac that’s her concern and She trying to save Zac so they can grow in their relationship. You are full of shit . Because you not talking facts you talking more of your opinion and get so hyped over a script , so you trying keeping it alive for your channel and keep making money.
He's a reaction channel giving his opinion while allowing others to do the same. He doesn't seem as hyped as you over a script because you have gotten personal in why and how he's structured HIS channel.
I’m a Zac and I hate how they doing him
You and me both
I agree with you 💯
Zac needs to be with Connie she ride or die she do everything for zac
I feel Fatima needs to spend more time in jail I’m sorry but she gets away with way too much shit and it doesn’t seem like she faces any consequences for her actions if you can look back all the way from season 7 she destroys Hayden’s property, she smashed Daja’s hand in a locker and threw her bottle of wine on the wall of the house and wrecked her party and speaker, she walked up into Karen’s home and idc what anyone says about how she said she was gonna leave the door open you still don’t just bust into anyone’s home like you pay the bills🙄 she showed up at the hospital knowing that Karen would feel some type of way, oh and season 6 she threw her engagement ring in Zac’s Face why do that if you really love your partner? Who the hell is sitting here throwing out jewelry especially as something as expensive as a wedding ring just seems everything she do she gets off Scott free and it’s annoying it’s one of the many reasons I stopped watching the show because she faces 0 consequences for her actions and that’s not how it works in life I’m glad these two aren’t together irl cause mannn 😳….
Jeremy I'll agreed with you because Fatima asked like she Zach Mama not his woman I'll don't like how their hating on Karen and how their won't Fatima to beat Karen up Fatima begging to show her truce color