Well I know one thing it doesn't take 6 years to have an average team. Now that Oklahoma and Texas has left we need to get it done. I don't see it with Coach Brown.
Wait wait wait 😂 this guy honestly looked into his camera and said a guy who is 128-48 with a NC can’t hold NBs jock strap?? Bro I get you’ve known NB since he was 18 but come on lmao. He can have his opinion but objective stats matter and NB would sell his soul to have Jimbos resume as would many other coaches
He said in PURE coaching. Not head coaching... He just means X's and O's imo. Jimbo bought players at TAMU, LSU, and FSU. If Neal had the same exact ammeneties what would his record be? I think its a fair question!
@@LockedOnWestVirginia how do you measure that? Wins? Jimbo. Drafted players? Jimbo. Player awards? Jimbo. Conference championships? Jimbo. There is no category that NB is objectively better than Jimbo is. You can say it’s because he was at whatever university but I’ll say he got the opportunity at those places BECAUSE he is a good coach.
All I know is that the best coach may not always have the overall best record. NB will always have to work harder with an average 3 star talent. Jimbo had the $ to get the 4 and 5 stars.
Rich rod didn't do most of his recruiting he had Doc Holliday doing it which should have been West Virginia's head coach after Rich rod left. That is also why Marshall was so good when Doc Holliday went there.
That's unrealistic expectations, WVU has NEVER been that outside of a 10 year period in the 2000s. I've Been a DIEHARD WVU fan since I was 10 years old. Realistically we should be aiming for 8 wins a year and to challenge for 10-11 wins every 3 to 4 years. Whether you all want to admit it or not, we don't have the resources that alot of other programs have, and we're never going to. WVU is a GREAT program, but we're not an elite program.
@@hustlazmuzik70 West Virginia needs a big 12 championship over the next 3 or 4 years and would be nice to be in the playoffs along with that championship which I assume we get in automatic if we win the Big 12. Even if we lose in the playoffs the first game is still would be nice to make an appearance. West Virginia's never going to the alabama-georgia or Ohio State but it would be nice to make a run every 10 years. Even if we come up short.. I don't think that's asking for much.
So what you said was, outside of the early to mid 2000's, WVU is not able to win 9 to 10 games a season? Well, had did they do it then? The leadership at WVU doesnt understand that the more you spend on football, the more you get back in revenue. Once Nick S went to AL and started his domination, the student population has almost doubled. Stadium is full, energy all over campus, basketball becomes better. We need leaders who understand this and buy into it, if not, we will always be a subpar program. There are plenty of deep pockets to help the program, its the BS from the Top that gets in the way. I bet Trump could fix it, he is a business man.
Hey Tony Franklin , YOU can not be predictable at this level and your boys need to execute the play called.... Nick Saban said it best when he said to his player We do not practice plays to get the play right , we practice it over and over again so you can not screw it up / so you can not execute the play. No matter what you are up against, any type of defense and player personnel ... Its about out executing the other guy... its a simple game but not simple to do...
So let me get this straight… The guy that has helped launch Neal’s career and has ties to half the staff is defending Neal Brown and thinks he’s better than Jimbo ????? No way 😂😂😂 Been giving great content but this may be the most bias of a defense of Neal Brown I’ve seen since 2022 when Shane Lyons tried defending him. “Can’t compare the time periods”. Dana took a Big East team to the Big 12 WITH Texas and OU in the league and playing OSU, KSU, Iowa State, etc YEARLY and averaged 8 wins a year, ranked in the top 25 yearly, national relevance, multiple 1st round draft picks. Just one example, Pre Neal WVU was 5-2 vs Texas Tech with players like Pat Mahomes. Since Neal has arrived they are 1-4 vs Texas Tech and they’ve fired 2 coaches in that tenure. Now Neal has a schedule playing teams in conference play that was in conferences such as conference USA, the American, etc 2 years ago… is now a harder job with the schedule ?!? Give me a break😂😂 Country Roads trust is voted a top 25 collective. WVU is in top 20 in all time wins. It’s a top 20 trademarked brand/logo. You can spin it anyway you want. Neal Brown has under performed in his 6 YEARS at WVU. You could blame the previous AD for certain issues but he’s gone. The defense is dam near as bad as it was in 2022 and the bs reasoning was always “Shane Lyons fault. Couldn’t keep guys. Couldn’t go get guys”. Shane’s gone. You retained. You got your guys. The defense is atrocious. The same play not to lose mentality in 2021,2022 with play calling is the same in 2024. He peaked in 2023 playing a cake schedule. They played 3 teams in the regular season that finished the regular season above .500 and went 0-3 with an average loss margin of over 20 points. Thats horrible. And that 9 wins was playing 4 new G5 new comers and lost to one of them because they had the wrong personnel on the field. “Be Patient” ITS BEEN 6 YEARS 😂😂😂
First off. You did the one thing he said you can't do. How can you compare a time period where you have 4 years to develop your players to now when 80 percent of the rosters flip each year? THATS what he meant by you can't compare them. Second, I brought Tony on to get his opinion, not debate him, and after 9 wins last year, we are 2-2 and undefeated in the big 12 for now. Until we are out of it, imo it's not fair to go all in on Neal yet or THIS YEAR. You heard the interview. I said he gets everything right but the on field portion, did I not? Tony said IN THE VERY BEGINNING it was important for everyone to know he was gonna be bias, and now you're calling it bias? haha See what i'm saying man? On the jimbo vs Neal thing Jimbo was amazing at FSU and LSU no doubt... But if you think what he did at TAMU is defensable with the money and rosters he had, i'll go on record now and say thats easily AS BAD as defending Neal.
@@LockedOnWestVirginia To your first point, this biggest excuse Neal had was retaining and not being able to keep players. He’s brought back 80%-90% of the offense from the “special 9 win team “ last year and laid an egg at home vs Penn State, couldn’t get a first down in the 4th quarter against Pitt to seal the game, and until the last 5 minutes against the 1-4 Kansas Jayhawks AT HOME, the offense was BAD. If you want to compare time frames now Rutgers, BYU, Louisville, Indiana, etc that are teams that this fan base would say WVU is “above” has figured it out before Neal has in this new era of college football. I’ll give him credit and it’s a valid point, he did say in the beginning he’d basically is bias. That’s fair. But Jimbos wins and National Championship and history… to say Neal can’t hold his jock strap should mean you lose most of your credibility. I get he “under performed” at A&M. He was one of the only coaches in the SEC to beat Bama. He played in a conference that’s won 90% of the National Championships in the last decade. Outside of Georgia and Alabama, every school has been a revolving door of coaches for “under performing” in the SEC. So i think it’s hard to pin A&M as an outlook of his entire career. He won more games in his first 4 years at A&M playing an SEC schedule than Neal has in 6 years at WVU.
With the best STAFF, Players, AND NIL Jimbo Fisher's SEC record is 27-21 (0.5625), which is slightly higher than Kevin Sumlin's 25-23 (0.521). Sumlin was fired for his inability to win SEC home games, and Jimbo was fired for his inability to win road games. 1.Jimbo Fisher was 7-14 (0.333) in SEC road games. Even worse, he went a putrid 3-11 (0.214) in road games against SEC West teams, including a current 6-game losing streak since a 31-20 win at Auburn on 12/5/2020. In contrast, Kevin Sumlin went 13-9 (0.591), including 9-8 (0.529) against SEC West teams. 3. Jimbo Fisher lost 9 consecutive road games, INCLUDING 8 SEC road games, since a 35-14 win over Missouri on 10/16/2021!! 4. In YEAR 5, Jimbo Fisher lost to Appalachian State 17-14 at home on 9/10/2022. That was the first time he lost to a Non-Power 5 team since an 18-14 loss to Ark State in 08, which was also the previous time thry missed bowl eligibility before a 5-7 finish last year. Sumlin never finished worse than 7-5 in the regular season. 5. In year 5, Jimbo Fisher posted a 2-6 SEC record and finished last in the SEC West because he lost both games against SEC East opponents South Carolina and Florida. Kevin Sumlin's worst SEC record was 3-5 and worst
I can't believe you're talking down Jimbo Fisher one of the top replacements for Neil Brown. I hope he becomes the coach and then you can explain to him why you was talking bad about him.
I shouldn't have read some of the comments. Yikes. Apart from that, I'm a Tennessee fan that kinda stumbled into it. I thought it was a cool vid. I think coach was speaking as a fan rather than a coach, mostly. I'd say this.....I know the losing sucks (again, Tennessee fan). It'll get better though. Idk how long it will take, but it does
Reading these comments really makes me question the IQ of the average football fan. Why is everyone losing their minds about what was discussed in the first 3 minutes of this video, that it was going to be BIAS.
For what he is paid per year, I think we deserve better. He cant win the big games. I dont expect him to win every big game, but I would hope we could win as many as we lose to top 25 matchups. I feel his decision making in the big moments suck.
But it's relatively close between all the coaches. That's the point. All the coaches are making between 3-5 million so everyone us playing On a level playing field.
@LockedOnWestVirginia not being ranked in top 25 once during his tenure I think says it all. All of the other coaches that make that kind of money over that many seasons should be ranked at some point in my opinion.
@@WVKnifeEnthusiast You heard the interview. I said the on field is where he lacks. I'm just making an objective point that everyone is on a level playing field now basically, and that only 1 or 2 teams in the conf have any advantages anymore. It makes it WAY harder than before.
@LockedOnWestVirginia yep, it is a tough conference for sure. I enjoy your channel. Let's hope that Neal Brown and our Mountaineers finish out the rest of the season bowl eligible and perhaps a bowl win!
@@LockedOnWestVirginia A level playing field is easier than what it was before for WVU lol, Texas and Oklahoma would be by far the biggest brands in this conference. Literally an insane take. The 2 dominant teams leaving would make it far easier for us to be competitive in the conference and we are less so than before. It's like saying it would be harder for the teams left behind in the SEC if Georgia and Alabama left, makes 0 sense
This is guy is right and he is wrong... a West Virginia Guy like Jimbo , Rich and Nick would do well because they understand we need to do the extra work when your at West Virginia.... Neglect Family and stuff like that , so I would not want to ask Nick and Jimbo because they have done that for so long.... but these guys that see WVU football program as a job has lost already .... it is an endless pit of effort to win 10 games and to more wins you need to be lucky and busting your butt started yesterday... Neal Brown is a good guy and puts in the work for 6-to 7 wins ... Mountaineers fans want more, so let's take WVU down a division. let's line it up against Ualbany each season & South Dakota State ... I think we will be more competitive...
Nobody argues that Brown is a fine human being. But you field a team to win games.We are 33-31 under Brown. Fisher was 39-21 at A&M. To say Fisher couldn't hold Brown's jock, destroys this mans credibility in my mind.What is Franklin's record as head coach? And like it or not Fisher has a national championship on his resume. I'm not one to call for Brown's firing and I don't think hiring Fisher is realistic. But this guy is a clown claiming Fisher couldn't hold Brown's jock. Brown will never get a sniff at head coach at a program as good as A&M or Florida St.
It's not a fair comparison. And he said in the beginning that he was openly bias Russell. 2nd. Jimbo lost with a roster that had 27 5 star players.... he was average. Neal is coming off a 9 win year. Can we not let this year play out week to week? If he screws it's up this year then okay. Also, he said in PURE coaching.
@@LockedOnWestVirginia Fisher had much better players in a much harder conference. I wasn't trying to make a head to head comparison. I was just trying to highlight how claiming Fisher couldn't hold Brown's jock is silly. Fisher may not be an elite coach but he is certainly on equal footing with coach Brown. At the power 5 level Neal certainly has not been more than average. I'm not sure you can win big at WVU in the modern game. I support the coach we have and the team no matter what may come. But I don't think coach Franklin needed to insult Fisher to praise coach Brown. I have always visited your channels because you as a host and your regular posters are friendly ,welcoming and respectful. That's rare on fansites and I appreciate it. Rock on Paul!
Tired of these Troy people denigrating WVU football...'you win 8 and you're a great coach'?? This is probably what NB and all his ex-Troy staff think of WVU but don't say publicly. Possibly also the AD? At next realignment hope WVU isnt left out.
😂what a bunch of crap. Understand I followed wv for years until brown and I divorced the program and will NEVER go back. wv will end up Division IIA because they won’t spend money that the fan base keeps giving them. Dumpster fire. Get out. Go BUCKEYES !
Sorry but a coach who is barely above .500 after 5 years and will be lucky to finish 6-6 this year doesn’t deserve to be the coach next year. The comparison between Brown’s record and Fisher’s record in comical and it doesn’t matter how many of Brown’s buddies appear on this show. It not as though this show has established any credibility to be judging the abilities of football or basketball coaches. And to bring on clowns like Tony Franklin who would talk negatively about other coaches only hurts your program more. WVU would be extremely lucky to get an experienced coach like Jimbo Fisher, but he is going to be in high demand after this season and it is likely he will have offers from multiple schools including ones in the SEC. The only reason for someone like you to have a show about WVU next coach is because you don’t have a lot of confidence in the current coach either. If you are trying to destroy what little credibility you have Paul, then have more shows like this one.
This was a great interview. Tony did a great job of putting things into a proper perspective. His insights were dead on. I have a new appreciation for what any Big 12 coach goes through each and every week in this very balanced division. Thanks Paul.
Really a well-done interview MP. Enjoyed the conversation from start to finish. I don't know Tony but I appreciated his perspective. Came across like a real straight-shooter. Keep up the good work.
I believe that coach Brown should stay, and that we should be giving him all the support that we can give him. We love our team and we love our state and maybe we think that we are better than we really are. Please listen to me. We can't bring in the same players that the SEC and THEE B One G bring in year after year for millions of dollars, but I know that the people that we do get realize that that they are a part of what makes us great,. They are are West Virginia and whether they win or lose we are proud of them and we thank them and love them because they represent us. They are Mountaineers, coach Brown, his coaches, and players. I love them all. LET'S GO MOUNTAINEERS!!!!
When he said he was going to be BIAS, he MEANT IT. He lost a lot of credibility when he said Jimbo couldn’t hold NB’s jock strap, not even at pure coaching. There’s a lot I did agree with but more I didn’t agree with. One was when he said if you win 6-7 at WVU, you’re a good coach and he repeated it at the end. That’s flat out disrespect. No, if you only win 7 then you’re just average at WVU considering our all time record is 783-538 that’s kinda equivalent to a 7-5 season. A good coach wins 8-9 at WVU. We have more of those than we do losing seasons and that’s a FACT. Then he said we should name a road after a coach that wins 10+. No, we’re not naming a road or street after Dana Holgorsen. If a HC goes undefeated, like Nehlen, then we’ll name a street after them. I think he wasn’t trying to be but I just felt like he was too disrespectful about WVU. 🔩 him
With the best STAFF, Players, AND NIL Jimbo Fisher's SEC record is 27-21 (0.5625), which is slightly higher than Kevin Sumlin's 25-23 (0.521). Sumlin was fired for his inability to win SEC home games, and Jimbo was fired for his inability to win road games. 1.Jimbo Fisher was 7-14 (0.333) in SEC road games. Even worse, he went a putrid 3-11 (0.214) in road games against SEC West teams, including a current 6-game losing streak since a 31-20 win at Auburn on 12/5/2020. In contrast, Kevin Sumlin went 13-9 (0.591), including 9-8 (0.529) against SEC West teams. 3. Jimbo Fisher lost 9 consecutive road games, INCLUDING 8 SEC road games, since a 35-14 win over Missouri on 10/16/2021!! 4. In YEAR 5, Jimbo Fisher lost to Appalachian State 17-14 at home on 9/10/2022. That was the first time he lost to a Non-Power 5 team since an 18-14 loss to Ark State in 08, which was also the previous time thry missed bowl eligibility before a 5-7 finish last year. Sumlin never finished worse than 7-5 in the regular season. 5. In year 5, Jimbo Fisher posted a 2-6 SEC record and finished last in the SEC West because he lost both games against SEC East opponents South Carolina and Florida. Kevin Sumlin's worst SEC record was 3-5 and worst
@@LockedOnWestVirginia I see you’re not a fan of Jimbo and I respect that but A&M has issues that’s been there way before Jimbo. Only 2 10+ win seasons in the last 30 years. IDK much about A&M but something is not right there. My main issue with Tony was what I posted earlier. The way he thinks about WVU is a little disrespectful in my opinion.
Well I know one thing it doesn't take 6 years to have an average team. Now that Oklahoma and Texas has left we need to get it done. I don't see it with Coach Brown.
Wait wait wait 😂 this guy honestly looked into his camera and said a guy who is 128-48 with a NC can’t hold NBs jock strap?? Bro I get you’ve known NB since he was 18 but come on lmao. He can have his opinion but objective stats matter and NB would sell his soul to have Jimbos resume as would many other coaches
He said in PURE coaching. Not head coaching... He just means X's and O's imo. Jimbo bought players at TAMU, LSU, and FSU. If Neal had the same exact ammeneties what would his record be? I think its a fair question!
@@LockedOnWestVirginia how do you measure that? Wins? Jimbo. Drafted players? Jimbo. Player awards? Jimbo. Conference championships? Jimbo. There is no category that NB is objectively better than Jimbo is. You can say it’s because he was at whatever university but I’ll say he got the opportunity at those places BECAUSE he is a good coach.
That tony guy is a clown.
All I know is that the best coach may not always have the overall best record. NB will always have to work harder with an average 3 star talent. Jimbo had the $ to get the 4 and 5 stars.
@@zacheryelkins5688 you measure it from the bottom of the ballsack, not the base of the shaft, obviously
Enough! I can’t listen to this guy any more! I’m gone.
Jesus man it's just content. He said he was gonna be Bias before it started
You didn't even challenge the guy how embarrassing.
Only one season so far with more than 6 wins.
WVU should be a 9 to 10 win team season in and season out.
Outside of Rich Rod’s recruiting, when has the ever been a reality for WVU?
Rich rod didn't do most of his recruiting he had Doc Holliday doing it which should have been West Virginia's head coach after Rich rod left. That is also why Marshall was so good when Doc Holliday went there.
That's unrealistic expectations, WVU has NEVER been that outside of a 10 year period in the 2000s. I've Been a DIEHARD WVU fan since I was 10 years old.
Realistically we should be aiming for 8 wins a year and to challenge for 10-11 wins every 3 to 4 years. Whether you all want to admit it or not, we don't have the resources that alot of other programs have, and we're never going to. WVU is a GREAT program, but we're not an elite program.
@@hustlazmuzik70 West Virginia needs a big 12 championship over the next 3 or 4 years and would be nice to be in the playoffs along with that championship which I assume we get in automatic if we win the Big 12. Even if we lose in the playoffs the first game is still would be nice to make an appearance. West Virginia's never going to the alabama-georgia or Ohio State but it would be nice to make a run every 10 years. Even if we come up short.. I don't think that's asking for much.
So what you said was, outside of the early to mid 2000's, WVU is not able to win 9 to 10 games a season? Well, had did they do it then?
The leadership at WVU doesnt understand that the more you spend on football, the more you get back in revenue. Once Nick S went to AL and started his domination, the student population has almost doubled. Stadium is full, energy all over campus, basketball becomes better.
We need leaders who understand this and buy into it, if not, we will always be a subpar program. There are plenty of deep pockets to help the program, its the BS from the Top that gets in the way.
I bet Trump could fix it, he is a business man.
Hey Tony Franklin , YOU can not be predictable at this level and your boys need to execute the play called.... Nick Saban said it best when he said to his player We do not practice plays to get the play right , we practice it over and over again so you can not screw it up / so you can not execute the play. No matter what you are up against, any type of defense and player personnel ... Its about out executing the other guy... its a simple game but not simple to do...
your best show to date...
Thanks ant!
HCNB needs to go he has done lost the biggest part of the fan base
So let me get this straight… The guy that has helped launch Neal’s career and has ties to half the staff is defending Neal Brown and thinks he’s better than Jimbo ????? No way 😂😂😂 Been giving great content but this may be the most bias of a defense of Neal Brown I’ve seen since 2022 when Shane Lyons tried defending him.
“Can’t compare the time periods”. Dana took a Big East team to the Big 12 WITH Texas and OU in the league and playing OSU, KSU, Iowa State, etc YEARLY and averaged 8 wins a year, ranked in the top 25 yearly, national relevance, multiple 1st round draft picks. Just one example, Pre Neal WVU was 5-2 vs Texas Tech with players like Pat Mahomes. Since Neal has arrived they are 1-4 vs Texas Tech and they’ve fired 2 coaches in that tenure.
Now Neal has a schedule playing teams in conference play that was in conferences such as conference USA, the American, etc 2 years ago… is now a harder job with the schedule ?!? Give me a break😂😂 Country Roads trust is voted a top 25 collective. WVU is in top 20 in all time wins. It’s a top 20 trademarked brand/logo. You can spin it anyway you want. Neal Brown has under performed in his 6 YEARS at WVU. You could blame the previous AD for certain issues but he’s gone. The defense is dam near as bad as it was in 2022 and the bs reasoning was always “Shane Lyons fault. Couldn’t keep guys. Couldn’t go get guys”. Shane’s gone. You retained. You got your guys. The defense is atrocious. The same play not to lose mentality in 2021,2022 with play calling is the same in 2024. He peaked in 2023 playing a cake schedule. They played 3 teams in the regular season that finished the regular season above .500 and went 0-3 with an average loss margin of over 20 points. Thats horrible. And that 9 wins was playing 4 new G5 new comers and lost to one of them because they had the wrong personnel on the field.
“Be Patient” ITS BEEN 6 YEARS 😂😂😂
First off. You did the one thing he said you can't do. How can you compare a time period where you have 4 years to develop your players to now when 80 percent of the rosters flip each year? THATS what he meant by you can't compare them.
Second, I brought Tony on to get his opinion, not debate him, and after 9 wins last year, we are 2-2 and undefeated in the big 12 for now. Until we are out of it, imo it's not fair to go all in on Neal yet or THIS YEAR. You heard the interview. I said he gets everything right but the on field portion, did I not? Tony said IN THE VERY BEGINNING it was important for everyone to know he was gonna be bias, and now you're calling it bias? haha See what i'm saying man? On the jimbo vs Neal thing Jimbo was amazing at FSU and LSU no doubt... But if you think what he did at TAMU is defensable with the money and rosters he had, i'll go on record now and say thats easily AS BAD as defending Neal.
@@LockedOnWestVirginia To your first point, this biggest excuse Neal had was retaining and not being able to keep players. He’s brought back 80%-90% of the offense from the “special 9 win team “ last year and laid an egg at home vs Penn State, couldn’t get a first down in the 4th quarter against Pitt to seal the game, and until the last 5 minutes against the 1-4 Kansas Jayhawks AT HOME, the offense was BAD. If you want to compare time frames now Rutgers, BYU, Louisville, Indiana, etc that are teams that this fan base would say WVU is “above” has figured it out before Neal has in this new era of college football.
I’ll give him credit and it’s a valid point, he did say in the beginning he’d basically is bias. That’s fair. But Jimbos wins and National Championship and history… to say Neal can’t hold his jock strap should mean you lose most of your credibility. I get he “under performed” at A&M. He was one of the only coaches in the SEC to beat Bama. He played in a conference that’s won 90% of the National Championships in the last decade. Outside of Georgia and Alabama, every school has been a revolving door of coaches for “under performing” in the SEC. So i think it’s hard to pin A&M as an outlook of his entire career. He won more games in his first 4 years at A&M playing an SEC schedule than Neal has in 6 years at WVU.
The guy is a friend of Neal’s. Mainstream does the same thing. We don’t need folks like Tony connected to the program.
What? Who said anything about him being connected to the program?
Jimbo couldn’t hold Neal’s jock? Brother literally won national championship. 😂
With the best STAFF, Players, AND NIL Jimbo Fisher's SEC record is 27-21 (0.5625), which is slightly higher than Kevin Sumlin's 25-23 (0.521). Sumlin was fired for his inability to win SEC home games, and Jimbo was fired for his inability to win road games.
1.Jimbo Fisher was 7-14 (0.333) in SEC road games. Even worse, he went a putrid 3-11 (0.214) in road games against SEC West teams, including a current 6-game losing streak since a 31-20 win at Auburn on 12/5/2020. In contrast, Kevin Sumlin went 13-9 (0.591), including 9-8 (0.529) against SEC West teams.
3. Jimbo Fisher lost 9 consecutive road games, INCLUDING 8 SEC road games, since a 35-14 win over Missouri on 10/16/2021!!
4. In YEAR 5, Jimbo Fisher lost to Appalachian State 17-14 at home on 9/10/2022. That was the first time he lost to a Non-Power 5 team since an 18-14 loss to Ark State in 08, which was also the previous time thry missed bowl eligibility before a 5-7 finish last year. Sumlin never finished worse than 7-5 in the regular season.
5. In year 5, Jimbo Fisher posted a 2-6 SEC record and finished last in the SEC West because he lost both games against SEC East opponents South Carolina and Florida. Kevin Sumlin's worst SEC record was 3-5 and worst
I can't believe you're talking down Jimbo Fisher one of the top replacements for Neil Brown. I hope he becomes the coach and then you can explain to him why you was talking bad about him.
Let's see how things play out this weekend.
Talk about a legend in his own mind! Its this know-it-all !
No, dude. We don’t wanna win by 70 points. We just wanna win.
He's a former coach. Just like we're jaded, so is he. Gotta realize that.
I shouldn't have read some of the comments. Yikes. Apart from that, I'm a Tennessee fan that kinda stumbled into it. I thought it was a cool vid. I think coach was speaking as a fan rather than a coach, mostly. I'd say this.....I know the losing sucks (again, Tennessee fan). It'll get better though. Idk how long it will take, but it does
It'll get better for WVU when Neal Brown is gone, not before.
Great interview!
Ask Tony Franklin to explain to us again why WV CAN"T run the up tempo offense as a base offense? What a tool he was.
Leslie is "one of the best defensive coaches" this guy knows of, opinion dismissed..this guy knows less than nothing
@7x263-h7r how many number 1 offenses did you coach?
And I'll say it again for those in the back: He said before the show started he was BIAS!!!!
You're right they don't know what they're talking about. They don't know much about football they are just football fans.
Reading these comments really makes me question the IQ of the average football fan. Why is everyone losing their minds about what was discussed in the first 3 minutes of this video, that it was going to be BIAS.
Sounds like he couldn’t hold down a job! Opinions are like you know what-everyone has one!
Just get Dana Holgerson back. That's the coach WVU needs
For what he is paid per year, I think we deserve better. He cant win the big games. I dont expect him to win every big game, but I would hope we could win as many as we lose to top 25 matchups. I feel his decision making in the big moments suck.
But it's relatively close between all the coaches. That's the point. All the coaches are making between 3-5 million so everyone us playing On a level playing field.
@LockedOnWestVirginia not being ranked in top 25 once during his tenure I think says it all. All of the other coaches that make that kind of money over that many seasons should be ranked at some point in my opinion.
@@WVKnifeEnthusiast You heard the interview. I said the on field is where he lacks. I'm just making an objective point that everyone is on a level playing field now basically, and that only 1 or 2 teams in the conf have any advantages anymore. It makes it WAY harder than before.
@LockedOnWestVirginia yep, it is a tough conference for sure. I enjoy your channel. Let's hope that Neal Brown and our Mountaineers finish out the rest of the season bowl eligible and perhaps a bowl win!
@@LockedOnWestVirginia A level playing field is easier than what it was before for WVU lol, Texas and Oklahoma would be by far the biggest brands in this conference. Literally an insane take. The 2 dominant teams leaving would make it far easier for us to be competitive in the conference and we are less so than before. It's like saying it would be harder for the teams left behind in the SEC if Georgia and Alabama left, makes 0 sense
This is guy is right and he is wrong... a West Virginia Guy like Jimbo , Rich and Nick would do well because they understand we need to do the extra work when your at West Virginia.... Neglect Family and stuff like that , so I would not want to ask Nick and Jimbo because they have done that for so long.... but these guys that see WVU football program as a job has lost already .... it is an endless pit of effort to win 10 games and to more wins you need to be lucky and busting your butt started yesterday... Neal Brown is a good guy and puts in the work for 6-to 7 wins ... Mountaineers fans want more, so let's take WVU down a division. let's line it up against Ualbany each season & South Dakota State ... I think we will be more competitive...
Nobody argues that Brown is a fine human being. But you field a team to win games.We are 33-31 under Brown. Fisher was 39-21 at A&M. To say Fisher couldn't hold Brown's jock, destroys this mans credibility in my mind.What is Franklin's record as head coach? And like it or not Fisher has a national championship on his resume. I'm not one to call for Brown's firing and I don't think hiring Fisher is realistic. But this guy is a clown claiming Fisher couldn't hold Brown's jock. Brown will never get a sniff at head coach at a program as good as A&M or Florida St.
It's not a fair comparison. And he said in the beginning that he was openly bias Russell.
2nd. Jimbo lost with a roster that had 27 5 star players.... he was average.
Neal is coming off a 9 win year. Can we not let this year play out week to week? If he screws it's up this year then okay.
Also, he said in PURE coaching.
@@LockedOnWestVirginia Fisher had much better players in a much harder conference. I wasn't trying to make a head to head comparison. I was just trying to highlight how claiming Fisher couldn't hold Brown's jock is silly. Fisher may not be an elite coach but he is certainly on equal footing with coach Brown. At the power 5 level Neal certainly has not been more than average. I'm not sure you can win big at WVU in the modern game. I support the coach we have and the team no matter what may come. But I don't think coach Franklin needed to insult Fisher to praise coach Brown. I have always visited your channels because you as a host and your regular posters are friendly ,welcoming and respectful. That's rare on fansites and I appreciate it. Rock on Paul!
Tired of these Troy people denigrating WVU football...'you win 8 and you're a great coach'?? This is probably what NB and all his ex-Troy staff think of WVU but don't say publicly. Possibly also the AD? At next realignment hope WVU isnt left out.
😂what a bunch of crap. Understand I followed wv for years until brown and I divorced the program and will NEVER go back. wv will end up Division IIA because they won’t spend money that the fan base keeps giving them. Dumpster fire. Get out. Go BUCKEYES !
Bye, didnt need ya fair weather fan.
Sorry but a coach who is barely above .500 after 5 years and will be lucky to finish 6-6 this year doesn’t deserve to be the coach next year. The comparison between Brown’s record and Fisher’s record in comical and it doesn’t matter how many of Brown’s buddies appear on this show. It not as though this show has established any credibility to be judging the abilities of football or basketball coaches. And to bring on clowns like Tony Franklin who would talk negatively about other coaches only hurts your program more. WVU would be extremely lucky to get an experienced coach like Jimbo Fisher, but he is going to be in high demand after this season and it is likely he will have offers from multiple schools including ones in the SEC. The only reason for someone like you to have a show about WVU next coach is because you don’t have a lot of confidence in the current coach either. If you are trying to destroy what little credibility you have Paul, then have more shows like this one.
Good stuff!!!
Thanks JK!
This was a great interview. Tony did a great job of putting things into a proper perspective. His insights were dead on. I have a new appreciation for what any Big 12 coach goes through each and every week in this very balanced division. Thanks Paul.
Thanks so much for recognizing!!
"Jimbo couldn't hold Neal Brown's jock" - TRUTH!
Absolutely!
We need a new leader. Not jumbo not rich rod. A big name that can get 4 stars
Jimbo Fisher is a over rated coach
Texas A&m is never going to have a winning program because there's too many top name chefs in the kitchen. That never works.
Really a well-done interview MP. Enjoyed the conversation from start to finish. I don't know Tony but I appreciated his perspective. Came across like a real straight-shooter. Keep up the good work.
Thanks alot!
I believe that coach Brown should stay, and that we should be giving him all the support that we can give him. We love our team and we love our state and maybe we think that we are better than we really are. Please listen to me. We can't bring in the same players that the SEC and THEE B One G bring in year after year for millions of dollars, but I know that the people that we do get realize that that they are a part of what makes us great,. They are are West Virginia and whether they win or lose we are proud of them and we thank them and love them because they represent us. They are Mountaineers, coach Brown, his coaches, and players. I love them all. LET'S GO MOUNTAINEERS!!!!
Thanks Harold
When he said he was going to be BIAS, he MEANT IT. He lost a lot of credibility when he said Jimbo couldn’t hold NB’s jock strap, not even at pure coaching. There’s a lot I did agree with but more I didn’t agree with. One was when he said if you win 6-7 at WVU, you’re a good coach and he repeated it at the end. That’s flat out disrespect. No, if you only win 7 then you’re just average at WVU considering our all time record is 783-538 that’s kinda equivalent to a 7-5 season. A good coach wins 8-9 at WVU. We have more of those than we do losing seasons and that’s a FACT. Then he said we should name a road after a coach that wins 10+. No, we’re not naming a road or street after Dana Holgorsen. If a HC goes undefeated, like Nehlen, then we’ll name a street after them. I think he wasn’t trying to be but I just felt like he was too disrespectful about WVU. 🔩 him
Brother ive got a MILLION stats that destroy that argument
With the best STAFF, Players, AND NIL Jimbo Fisher's SEC record is 27-21 (0.5625), which is slightly higher than Kevin Sumlin's 25-23 (0.521). Sumlin was fired for his inability to win SEC home games, and Jimbo was fired for his inability to win road games.
1.Jimbo Fisher was 7-14 (0.333) in SEC road games. Even worse, he went a putrid 3-11 (0.214) in road games against SEC West teams, including a current 6-game losing streak since a 31-20 win at Auburn on 12/5/2020. In contrast, Kevin Sumlin went 13-9 (0.591), including 9-8 (0.529) against SEC West teams.
3. Jimbo Fisher lost 9 consecutive road games, INCLUDING 8 SEC road games, since a 35-14 win over Missouri on 10/16/2021!!
4. In YEAR 5, Jimbo Fisher lost to Appalachian State 17-14 at home on 9/10/2022. That was the first time he lost to a Non-Power 5 team since an 18-14 loss to Ark State in 08, which was also the previous time thry missed bowl eligibility before a 5-7 finish last year. Sumlin never finished worse than 7-5 in the regular season.
5. In year 5, Jimbo Fisher posted a 2-6 SEC record and finished last in the SEC West because he lost both games against SEC East opponents South Carolina and Florida. Kevin Sumlin's worst SEC record was 3-5 and worst
@@LockedOnWestVirginia I see you’re not a fan of Jimbo and I respect that but A&M has issues that’s been there way before Jimbo. Only 2 10+ win seasons in the last 30 years. IDK much about A&M but something is not right there. My main issue with Tony was what I posted earlier. The way he thinks about WVU is a little disrespectful in my opinion.