Batman Forever Riddler VS The Batman Riddler
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ก.ย. 2024
- Welcome to WatchMojo, and in this installment of Versus, we’re pitting the “Batman Forever” Riddler against the one in “The Batman.” For this video, we’ll be looking at Jim Carrey’s and Paul Dano’s versions of the Riddler and seeing which one is the cleverest interpretation. If you haven’t seen the new film yet, beware of heavy spoilers. Which Riddler do you think comes out on top? Leave your answer in the comments!
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Riddler from the Batman 2022 win
No love for Frank Gorshin as the Riddler, Watchmojo?
To me, The Riddler from the Batman TV series is the best Riddler.
3:28 into the video and I already know you gave the win to The Batman's Riddler
Can you guys make a cartoon vs series and maybe put Ben 10 vs Avatar Aang or Ben vs Danny phantom😅?
Gotham series Riddler is my Favorite
The Batman's Riddler was the perfect villain for a more detective heavy Batman movie, his riddles are perfect for a Zodiac / Se7en inspired film.
Please make an evolution of the riddler video plssss
What was really terrifying about Dano's version of the Riddler is that it was based on the REAL LIFE Zodiac Killer! If I were one of those murdered victim's friends or family members, I probably would NOT go see this movie, because it might start to bring back some seriously haunting memories... 😬
Can't wait to see what he pulls in the next movie, now that he knows what he knows. (Not spoiling the movie lol)
But when did it become the best choice to base it on a real life killer, to the point that the comic roots are completely o er looked..thus was not riddler..this was a modern day terrist..comic riddler is completely different
I also think that, it really was what the Riddler needed, to be taken seriously as a real threat, and not just a turd in a bowling hat moronic green suit. I know everyone’s gonna have their own opinions own this version of the riddler, but I thought this was a very interesting take on the Riddler (the whole Zodiac killer inspiration makes perfect sense for Matt Reeves version) but I loved it
What I love about what The Batman did for Riddler is that they didn’t treat him like a joke. The Arkham games did him good but could’ve been better and Gotham’s interpretation of Ed was done in a mix of Seriousness and Jokes which was done fine but almost every adaptation of the character has been done as a Joke. The Batman made him a force to be reckoned with and he was actually convincing as a criminal in this new movie just like the games and Gotham. I’d say the Riddler was finally done justice in this film but Jim Carrey will always have the nostalgia
You're right. Riddler has almost always been just a goofball character. Paul danos version was so well written and motivated as well as perfectly acted. Loved loved looooovvvvved "the Batman" so much.
The Riddler should be seen as a scary person like Paul Dano version,not as a funny person like Jim Carrey.But i still respect Jim Carrey perfomances in that film.
TellTales' Riddler was also a pretty interesting take
So you prefer him to have no personality or charm or whit or charisma‽
@@cyberwarrior9081 I found Dano quite hilarious actually..Shades of Jim at times.
Jim Carey always seemed like he would’ve been much better casted as Joker. His version of Riddler was a little too comical and zany, like he was more about jokes than using riddles to stump others.
Carey's riddler 2ae based of the 60s as shumackers batman was used of of the adam west batman listen to the music while their fighting the bang pow sounds in the back ground so Carey nailed that interpretation as much as anyone one else is the batman movies I just think people preferred burtons darker or I'll say darker tone but I have to admit shumacker did a god take of the 60s show atleast with batman forever however I loved the batmans take his motives were even similar to Carey's one thing with the new version is I wanted more he did amazing but let's not take away from carey
I was thinking the same thing
I think Jim Carrey should do a villain role without humour. He can be scarily intense when he wants to.
So far, he's dabbled as Dr "Eggman" Robotnik from Sonic, and as Count Olaf in series of unfortunate events.
@@fabulousmyriad267 True, but as Robotnik he was hilarious. I'm so excited to see him again in the new one.
I absolutely agree and wonder what it might be like if Jim Carey got the chance to play The Joker now? I think he could rock an older Joker.
I think Dano was probably my favorite part of the Batman. He was just way scarier than I expected.
Yeah he was genuinely terrifying, scariest villain I’ve ever seen
Yeah for a silly character Dano made him terrifying. For that he's the better portrayal of the character for me
that opening scene...
he was kinda creepy lol
And then he went down in one of the lamest ways possible… shame.
The first shot of The Riddler when he's standing in the darkness and the light is reflecting off his glasses made him look like a straight up monster. I even heard a guy sitting in front of me say to his friend "That's f**kin scary." Paul Dano Riddler was amazing
I said to my brother, almost everytime he came on screen.... "This guy is f***ing making me uncomfortable" I loved every second of it
In that scene, he looks exactly like a Zodiac killer bro
the part he snaps the bomb on colsons neck was uncomfortable
I’m not gonna lie, that actually scared me a little bit.
@@amiramri3032 it's funny you say that cause Paul Dano took inspiration from the Zodiac Killer, he mentioned it in an interview
Riddler in Batman Forever: hilarious and over the top
Riddler in THE BATMAN: Terrifying and murderous
Dano Riddler in the batman had me laughing like Jim's.
Dano’s Riddler sounds like Kylo Ren sometimes…
@@jokelethkurueisner9229 like a whiney baby
Love them both! ^.^
I loved Batman Forever asi a Kid. It was so comedic, and Jim Carrey was my idol, so i knew nothig bad is gonna happen. (I was scared by DeVito's Penguin)
THE BATMAN is a masterpiece, Dano did amazing job. and movie has some Seven vibe.
Paul Dano's Riddler made him look more creepy, insane, and a mastermind. Something special because they always treat my boy Eddie Nygma like a C class villain. Nothing but love for Matt Reeves !
And what a Riddler ! Nearly perfect Edward nygma!
@@quentinramecourt6628 the scene when the 💣's are going off and he's yelling of joy is hilarious 🤣
This is bullshit! Jim Carrey's Riddler was a masterpiece in it's own right. This Riddler doesn't even keep to the comic interpretation!
@@joeleboeuf tbh Jim's an amazing actor but his riddler was to cheesy like the whole Batman Forever movie
@@eduardosotelo8446 Really, well then.
Riddle me this: You see me at some point in your life. You compare the two of us, and choose the original every single time. What am I?
The REAL question is how many Riddler Trophies did either of them leave behind for Bats to find? 🤔
I have a feeling neither Batman would actually take the time to find them ☹️
way too many
Nightmare flashbacks.... that reminds me that I actually never really finished the Arkham games.
@@luis15317 I collected every single one on all 4 games 😭
@@matthewdeltoro8962
Holy hell you really have some patience.
But wait there is a fourth game? 😅
Jim Carey of course gave a very comedic and silly take on the character. Probably one that’s more true to the earlier comics. And he practically carried that movie. Danos riddler however felt more modern and terrifying and more driven with a goal of destruction.
Not really.. riddler was eccentric, sure. But he wasn't a whole lot like the comics aside from looks alone
@@Dolceandgabana
You referring to Jim Carey’s?
@@franciscs1604 yeah. Jim basically played the mask without powers.
@@Dolceandgabana No but the earlier silly comics.
@@Dolceandgabana and the 60s batman series.
The Riddler never actually found out that Bruce is Batman. When he kept saying Bruce’s name, Riddler was referring to how Bruce was the only one of his victims who survived, hence his line “He was the only one we didn’t get.”
Yeah, that was just a red herring they put in since Bruce started to suspect the Riddler found out his true identity.
ya this riddler was stupid just like this batman cant’ even figure out a rat with wings is a bat..
@@acutelilmint8035 the rat was falcone
@@acutelilmint8035 the penguin was literally referenced as El rata which is rat in Spanish
He knows, I believe this is canon. His thing is solving riddles. Bruce's picture is pinned up next to Batman. How can he not know?
Paul Dano's Riddler felt like something out of Se7en and Saw. That's how dark and compelling his character is.
They based it off of seven so you’re right there 😂
"Hello, Batman. I want to play a game."
There was nothing compelling about him
Well The Batman 2022 film is mostly based on comics like Year Zero, Year One, Ego and The Long Halloween.
And especially if you read Batman The Long Halloween or watched the animated film part 1 and 2 so you will feel that the story look similar to the movie Se7en + Silence of the Lambs.
As the fact the Riddle in the new Batman is more like Zodiac Killer.
There is a misunderstanding of a point in the movie: The Riddler never knew that Batman is Bruce Wayne. (I don't have to explain details, there are already various channels that explain that, and if you pay attention to the movie you realize that he never knew the identity of batman).
The look Batman gave him when he realized that spoke volumes.
came here to say this, but knew in my heart of hearts it had been said.
@@_SirRacha_ I had to point this out to the person I watched it with, they had missed it. That scene was so heavy
That was a surprisingly creepy scene. They had me for a moment but in the back of my mind, I knew it couldn’t have been true.
This is actually the key twist of the movie. That the Riddler thought he was working together with The Batman against corruption and against Bruce Wayne.
Unfortunately I think its also fault of the movie to not make that key scene more clear. Most peoples (more then half) do not get that twist. I include myself. The movie should have pointed that out a little more (because it is such a key moment).
This isn't even a contest. Dano's Riddler blows Carrey's out of the water. Carrey's Riddler is Carrey playing himself. Dano's Riddler had a compelling back story and felt like a real serial killer.
Exactly
"Serial killer" and that right there is why it fails as a portrayal of Riddler l
He was a pathetic cringe fanboy of Batman. Riddler is supposed to be a narcissist with a superiority complex who tries to prove he is smarter than Batman and everyone else. He was Riddler in name only.
Yeah it is a contest. Jim Carrey never “plays himself,” I’m so sick of ignorant people saying that. Just because he’s a comedian doesn’t mean he plays himself. They’re 2 totally different versions of Riddler
@@ocelot11snake The riddler is a serial killer in the comics 🤡
Just saw the Batman today. I swear, when Riddler yelled at the DA over the phone I was horrified. Paul Dano was terrifying and I love it
Batman Forever Riddle: Kid friendly and funny riddle jokes.
The Batman Riddle: Dark, answer question, smart to unmasked the question.
Ikr. Paul Dano’s riddler reminded me of Heath Ledger’s joker
@@ethanduran6 I wish he stayed in costume for the entire movie!
The riddler in that movie was goofy but in no way would I call him "kid friendly".
Honestly they are both very different takes on the character, and for the version that they are going for they nailed it
Carey was better writtin for his movie than Dano for his
Thank you for this comment but now your gonna get all the opinionated gods to come down from the gates of keyboard warrior heaven.
What are you seeing that I'm not because I thought this bad not just bad but bad bad. We had not Batman not Catwoman not penguin and certainly not the Riddler didn't seam like the villains weren't having any fun at all. What a shame for super villains to be lower on the totem pole and serial killers.
@@KalomikaArts that’s utter bullshit. Dano fit the story beautifully as a intelligent yet psychotic serial killer.
@@KalomikaArts what, the writing was great for Dano
I always thought of Riddler as a Goofy villain, even in the arkham games.... But The Batman made him look like an actual villain and I became a fan of the character
Paul Dano had a amazing performance in The Batman
I kinda wish Dano had more time without the mask, b/c he played crazy disturbed unhinged very well.
Every video was absolutely terrifying, and the opening scene with him against the wall was the moment I went "This is gonna be a quick three hours."
over the top
Ave María for that
@@MichaelNewmanII man his Ave Maria scene is kinda disturbed me 💀, his performance is amazing
“You were supposed to understand!”
The fact that both versions of Riddler had that in common, and directed at Batman each time, is absolutely eerie. They were both desperate for validation.
I've always believed Carey got way too ouch hate for his Riddler. The movie had more than it's fair share of problems, but Jim Carey wasn't one of them.
My problem with him is that he wasnt the Riddler. He was just 90s Jim Carrey. He looked like the Riddler in the comics (at the beginning), but he was nothing like the Riddler from the comics in terms of personality. Very poor iteration of the character imo
Yeah, he honestly was a huge problem. Especially to those of us who read the comics and saw how horribly he depicted the character. The used to ruin these characters so much worse than nowadays. Now they just nerf everybody in the movies, but at least they stay more true to the comics for personality and everything
@@icemav5740 Seeing how it is a comic book character everyone can interpret them differently. And Carrey realises it is a character, nothing more. Like Jack Nicholson and his Joker.
@@icemav5740 He was over the top silly ! that was the problem yeahh !
Batman Forever is a great Batman movie.
Saw the movie yesterday and I was really blown by Paul Dano's performance...
He really did a great job! The movie turned out to be a psychological horror/thriller shifting to action. All people in theaters are terrified everytime the Riddler shows. Paul Dano's smile when he was arrested is so bizarre which is very hunting...
I love Jim Carrey but Paul Dano was born to play as the Riddler. I want to see him with Joaquin Phoenix Joker because they have the same vibes...
I agree and I love both. Especially Paul’s.
I agree. Paul Dano was very impressive as the Riddler. It would be interesting to see his Riddler with Joaquin Pheonix's Joker.
If Heathe was in this 2022 Batman…
Probably would’ve had to stream it on the dark web…
I get that they wanted Carrey to make the movie more light, but as a legit villain, Dano blows him away.
exactly
No doubt I’d of given every round to Dano. They gave his costume a hush approach so it’s still relatively comic accurate
@@dillonkramer1575 Yes he's a mix between Hush and the Riddler that we know from the comics.
Jim Carrey plays Jim Carrey. If that happens to be the riddler, or whatever other comedic character he plays with slight variations.
Carrey is a bit more comic accurate
I love Jim Carrey but let’s just give this to Paul Dano and call it a day.
No way Carrey the real riddler
@@cartelplug8183 lol nah Carrey acted more like himself than the riddler.
@@cartelplug8183 definitely Jim Carrey! He the best! The other one is just a rip-off zodiac killer like jigsaw wannabe ! Carey killed it as the riddler
@@JessicaGarcia-xf9wr No one sane agrees with you lol, Jim Carrey played Jim Carrey, in that role, and really added nothing more than comedy to the character and made him look even goofier 🤣
@@towlie9428 I agree with her and I'm sane. Jim has more riddler elements. Imo both are great though.
I love how riddler and his look was inspired of the zodiac killer for the Batman, Made him more terrifying as a villain
Fun fact: there is actually a Batman villain called The Zodiac Man
@@Jb69-f1v didn’t know that. Tbf I don’t read the comics and I’m the hugest casual going but Batman’s still the best lol
@@Randomperson-zt3il XD I read comics and I’ve never heard of Zodiac Man.
@@natwalsh2710 fair enough lol
@@natwalsh2710 because it's a real Character
Jim carrey is honestly a really good actor specially in dramatic roles. He needed a better direction and vision.
Jim Carrey's the one highlight that kept making me watch Batman Forever... since forever!
And also one of the most campiest, animated performances your gonna see from Tommy Lee Jones !
@@giovannijiminez7858 which I think is what makes that TLJ performance entertaining and unique. Nice to see agent K go bonkers haha
I always have a soft spot for that movie largely because of Jim Carrey
I agree. 💯
Jim Carrey carried that movie. Jim Carrey's Riddler is the only thing I liked in Batman Forever. The rest of that movie wasn't that good.
This new Riddler is dark, scary. And that's how Batman movies & Williams should be.
Quick honorable mention to the Riddler of the Gotham series. He did a good job too.
The way the 4 riddles revealed his identity in Batman Forever was always brilliant
I personally liked Jim carry he was a unique choice and just has that pure 90s vibes but they both are great in there own ways
Paul Dano’s Riddler was essentially the zodiac killer and he was fucking terrifying.
Was going to say that by the thumbnail lmao cant wait to see it
Not really. He was just an unhinged guy who needed to sneak up on people to kill them. Plus he was essentially just a knock off Jigsaw with less impressive traps.
@@thefanwithoutaface8105 Have you ever seen what the zodiac killer looks like?
@@stockwatsonnu8518 Yes and that's my point, I watch Batman to see Batman take on villains from his rouges gallery, not some knock off of a real serial killer.
@@thefanwithoutaface8105 It didn’t really feel like a knock off it felt more like an homage. Besides you can’t deny Dano’s Riddler was scary as hell.
I love how they bagged on Carey's costume, and gave praise to Dano's costume, but still gave the point to Carey. Lol.
Do you think no way home is better than the Batman?
@@JessicaGarcia-xf9wr I think NWH was the way more enjoyable cinematic experience but I think The Batman is the better movie.
The Riddler has always been a somewhat goofy villain, but he was still creepy and intimidating. Jim Carrey was neither of those things. He was just way too over the top goofy and not at all like a villain. While as Paul Dano has a creepy outfit, a Jigsaw style of killing, and is genuinely scary as a villain, while also keeping his goofy side to him. Jim Carrey is a good actor, but there’s only one answer to this.
With that outfit in the batman he tja riddler remains me about the serial killer the zodiac killer a bit.!
Also Hush.
Good actor, bad writing
@@cyberyoutabe5995 If you’re talking about Jim Carrey, then yes.
@@danielholguin7621 Yeah, I wasn’t clear enough but yeah.
In 1994/1995 Jim Carrey was one of the biggest stars in the world, so it made financial sense to cast him in a Batman movie. There was a heavy push from Warner Bros for a lighter Batman after McDonald's received backlash for associating with the darker Tim Burton movies from the late 80s/early 90s. More serious fans of Batman did have issues with Carrey's Riddler back then, as The Batman Animated Series that came out in 1993 had a far more serious Riddler. Carrey was doing a tribute performance to Frank Gorshin's Riddler from the 1960s Adam West Batman,.....and as others have pointed out, Carrey was also just playing himself a lot too.
Dano’s Riddler felt a lot like Jigsaw. Not that that’s a bad thing, just Carrey’s Riddler feels a lot more like ‘The Riddler’.
So true
He felt like a mix of Jigsaw and his whole murder mystery came off so much like a mix of him and Scream scenario and it's sooo damn good
Jim Carrey never felt like the Riddler. He was just 90s Jim Carrey. Not at all a good depiction of Riddler from the comics. Dano however, is an excellent portrayal of Riddler. Hes is one of the rare times when a reimagining of a character stays incredibly faithful to the personality of the character from the comics
100% agreed, works for the movie but not really a good adaptation for Riddler
@@icemav5740 Jim Carrey did a Silver Age Riddler, that's why he was choose for the role
Dano's Riddler is marvellous, but what I really like is how he can further evolve. This Eddie is raw, in need of refining. He's even using his bland birth name of Nashton. I foresee his comeback including a showman's presence, a flashier fashion sense, and a legal change from E. Nashton to E. Nygma.
I can enjoy Carrey's Riddler, fun, cartoonist, and very much in the vain of the Silver Age. Paul Dano's Riddler is more modern, still crazy and he brings some goofiness too, which isn't a bad thing at all. Both have their charms, but I give Dano's the slight edge.
Excellent, well-made point. Ya know, you should do reviews.
agreed, dano performance was almost health level
@@TopFlightSecurity415 ..lol I wouldn't go that far...He was good though.
I agree with this, they’re both very different interrogations of the Riddler but I personally prefer Paul Dano’s Riddler
The hush approach on riddler in the Batman really made him a convincing character
Dino: "If you are justice, please do not lie; what is the price for your blind eye?"
I think it’s kinda hard to compare them, they’re 2 completely different takes on the character. One riddler is more comic like and the other is more dark and edgy. Personally I love Jim’s riddler bc he’s so fun, but I also love Paul’s riddler bc he’s so dark
How was this even a competition
I think Carrey did masterfully with what he was given. I think he would have thrived in a more serious/grounded Batman type movie.
Definitely. Well said.
A Riddler obsessed with the number 23 🤔🤔
Both great movies that shouldn't be compared, Batman Forever was a highly successful family friendly movie , The Batman will be one of the biggest comic book movies of all time and one of the darkest.
I agree.
Couldn't agree more.
I've just seen the new 2022 Batman film, and personally, I actually like Paul Dano's version of the Riddler. Maybe Jim Carrey should have been cast as the Joker. I would have seen Robin Williams as the Riddler in Batman Forever.
I know Channel Awesome made a What If video about Tim Burton directing Batman Forever with Robin Williams as The Riddler.
Nice, but you made one big mistake: The Riddler DIDN'T know Bruce Wayne is Batman, we were just lead to believe he did
maybe he knew but didnt say it
Oh that scene where he says Bruce Wayne when Batman walks in. Then he says to Batman “we need to take down Bruce Wayne”
I agree with, but he could have known and just saw how uncomfortable Batman was with the cameras there and didn’t want to spoil the surprise for other people who might be watching. I could see the Riddler doing some bro moment like that.
She also stated Thomas Wayne was killed due to his shady dealings , but that’s not confirmed .
To be fair both versions were written for the movies they were in. Jim Carrey's version is over the top, like the rest of the movie was. Paul Dano's is darker and grittier just like his movie. Both are good for what they are, its not really fair to compare the two together.
Agreed.
And the funny thing is I figured this is how the Riddler would be portrayed in the Dark Knight trilogy.
Paul Danos riddler is riddler at his best, absolutely stellar
@s of course I have
No, he is more like Anarchy that The Riddler.
@@mayotango1317 And Hush is a mixture of Riddler and 2 face, your point?
@@mayotango1317 Wrong!
It’s funny how they don’t mention Gothams Riddler
I’d say Gotham’s Riddler is my favorite. He’s a perfect blend between Carrey’s campy performance and Dano’s serious approach.
@@WarMachineMI yes he is
I was amazed at some of the backlash I came across about The Batman.. it was a refreshingly different take on the world's greatest detective. Also, Paul dano played a perfect riddler for it. Wouldn't mind a sequel!
I absolutely loved it!!! Probably the best interpretation of the Batman character I’ve ever seen and they really explored different aspects of him that no other Batman movie has ever touched on.
I don't think you can compare the two because they went for two completely different tones. Carrey is over the top and campy by design and he does it well. Dano's Riddler by contrast is more in line with the Nolan style of Batman villains.
Each had a different take on the character and succeeded in what they were going for.
Also I'm sorry but I just cannot buy Edward Cullen as Batman. I just can't lol
Honest question, what do you mean by "can't buy Edward Cullen as Batman"? You mean Pattinson's performance didn't click with you or was it a reference to something said in this video that I missed? I haven't watched the movie yet, btw. Just curious about your pov
I have a much easier time buying him as Batman than Christian Bale tbh. His throat-cancerous voice just kept sucking me out of the experience and just made his Batman come off as phony at times. Even Batfleck felt more realistic (and the man used a frigging voice scrambler/device)
I think we can all agree that Jim Carrey's Riddler will always have a place in our hearts, since I grew up watching the old films because of my father. But of course this new Riddler is the best and absolutely terrifying.
Didn't scare me, Riddler isn't a murderer seeking revenge.
As a kid I love the Jim Carrey’s Riddler . He was fun and crazy, but got to admit I prefer The Batman Version now . Not to spoil it to anyone . But the TB Riddler seems like an actual threat for a real world Batman and could see him next to TDK Joker as the best version of the characters.
I always felt like Jim Carrey was almost playing the Joker rather than the Riddler in Batman Forever. I'd never seen quite a hyper, energetic and silly version of the Riddler until his take on the character. Until then Riddler had always been a cool and calm guy.
Yeah I think he kinda changed the way the riddler is thought of in general. It definitely inspired Gothams riddler and now people are upset that in The Batman that’s not the riddler rendition we got.
@@thurielangel3239 I like Matthew Gubler's take on the DC Animated Universe version. That's how I think of the Riddler.
@@SolarDNA I like him too. In fact I kinda love him. But if you look at the comics he doesn’t have to be the only one, maybe it was time for a change.
Paul dano is very intimidating until he's unmasked then he's just some cooky young adult who yells and looses alot of his subtlety also Jim Carrey's plan in his movie was to increase his intelligence and get all kinds of valuable info like codes to safes and such all over the city which is alot more greedy then the new one
This Paul Dano riddler and Joaquin Phoenix Joker would be perfect together in a film as they are both like an everyday person would be.
I'm not really fond of either one. If they took the sardonic Riddler, from "Batman: TAS", and brought that one to life, then you'd have a perfect Riddler
for Batman to fight.
dano's version of riddler can be done by any actor,but i doubt you can find any actor to act as jim carrey as a riddler,he was so authentic as a riddler character.
I love Paul’s riddler
Great video. I agree with your results. This proves that both Riddlers are great.
hoenstly , i’m more scared of a narcissist thats bombastic and not looking like a unibomber lol.. those are the scariest killers..
just like those murderers that are good looking, charming and actually gain fans, etc.. its too obvious to have a ugly dark killer..
And now, Danny DeVito's Penguin vs. Colin Farrell's Penguin !
Totally amazing video of the two riddlers from Batman forever and the Batman watch mojo, fantastic job. I always love the Jim Carey riddler from Batman forever.
I'm just gonna say it, this is my favorite Batman movie. And yes, I'm counting Dark Knight. Helps that it's Riddler is just a serial killing nightmare.
Nothing touches The Dark Knight !!!
@@MrMrjack18 the batman>>>
@@barry2349 The Dark Knight is more deep and intense movie !
Dark knight is not only the Best Batman movie but also one of the greatest Comic book movie and nothing comes close to it but this movie I'd say came really close to being the best batman movie
Hey, just my personal opinion, no need to kill me
I like them both a lot. Dano finally showed me the riddler can be a genuine, scary, intimidating threat in a Batman film. But I will always have fun watching Carrey's Riddler. Then again, I like Batman Forever. I am just so amazed at almost 33 years from the Warner Bros films, we have so many interpretations of Batman and his mythos.
Jim was good in his own way, but Paul played the Riddler as I would have imagined him. Darker, more intense, hidden in the shadows. And his scene in jail with the Batman seemed like a subtle homage to the Joker in Dark Knight. I took Paul seriously. I didn’t take Jim seriously.
The Batman's Riddler edges it when it comes to the movie it is in but the same goes for the Batman Forever's Riddler. I personally love The Riddler in The Batman but everyone has there own preferences.
Jim Carrey had the best costume designs
Not really. Makes no sense if he wants to conceal his identity, not very creative or original, just a jumpsuit with question marks. Paul Dano has a lot of thought put into his, inspired from the zodiac killer, and is actually a good diguise for someone who wants to keep his true identity a secret.
Let's note first. We are watching a superhero movie.
Therefore, the villain must be the hero. But not just another killer from a horror movie.
Jim Carey played exactly the superhero of the villain, an insane person with a simple motivation and hatred for everything, he amuses his pride in a bright form. His character has a special sick charisma.
Like any super villain, he radiates pathos and that is enough.
In the new Batman, the Riddler is just an ordinary maniac. Yes, smart and cunning, but still ordinary.
Yes, he is a villain, yes he has a tough approach, but he is definitely not a super villain. This character is very ordinary, even with all his cunning plan.
But let's not forget that the film uses high-quality modern music and special effects of the film.
Conclusion.
Why should we watch a superhero movie when there is no super villain in it, but there are superheroes? :)
Jim Carry's performance as the Riddler is the absolute best in my opinion!
LOL!!!!! How can you even compare the two? Dano's Riddler is on another level. The fact that you made it seem like a close contest is hilarious.
Paul's Riddler was creepy...👍🏻 Great film.
As much as I like Jim Carrey's Riddler, I think really actually the performance would go to Paul Dano's Ridder. He's terrifying, very violent, and has more story/origin to what led him becoming the Riddler, also Dano's huge dedication to the role led to 200 takes on his Iphone camera scene, which is pretty insane btw.
Jim carrey as riddle was more lively through
To be honest I love both versions in their own way
The Batman was definitely a horror film.
I still love Jim Carrey’s version because I was really young but as an adult I prefer The Batman’s riddler and overall story.
The 2022 version of The Riddler needs an Eye mask instead of a Face Mask and Bowler Hat
Paul Dano fucking blows Jim Carrey away as the Riddler. I feel like Carrey was better suited for Joker or Mad Hatter
I agree. I feel like in the film he should’ve been mad hatter
The Batman's riddler felt like it was unhinged and felt like he had no soul, just wanting blood
The Riddler has always been my favorite Batman villain, mostly because of his wit. As a kid, I loved Jim Carrey as the character, hokey as he was…he WAS Jim fricken Carrey, and I always enjoy his energy. However, there’s no question, Dano was such a dark and serious look at the character…done right. He’s smart, creepy, sinister. Basically, what Ledger did to Joker, he did for Riddler.
Sad to hear, really you don't mind your Fav is now killing people for revenge. We grew up with him committing heists, hidden heists. Hush, tricks, traps, garish plays for attention, and making Batman look stupid. Torturing and slowly a bunch of people is not the Riddler's style.
@@curtissmith8152 I agree… I guess the characters really evolved… For better or worse I guess that’s a matter of taste… I like both varieties… But I think he’s a little more serious today
This is a weird choice for a vs. matchup. Cory Michael Smith’s Riddler from Gotham would have been a better fit to go against Dano’s Riddler.
Paul Dano. Some of Carrey's jokes didn't land for me. Dano's there to terrify and he delivered that.
1997 was a different time. It was peak Jim Carrey zaniness
Dano's Riddler has hints of Jim Carrey, Carrey's Eggman, and Dumb and Dumber's Lloyd.
Can you do a versus video for which actor did a great job in portraying the Penguin in the movies between Danny Devito and Colin Farrell?
Really? They gave Jim a point for performance. It should’ve been Paul. He could at least have 1 point for costume, but Paul deserves performance.
I don't think The Riddler became aware of Batman's identity, the trailer just made it look that way
He never knew at all, there is a scene where you think the whole time through that he knows Batman is Bruce Wayne. But he doesn’t he even says “The only Person you and I missed was Wayne!”
Dano made the Riddler terrifying!
Jim carry was just being Jim carry in the batman forever movie, Paul Dano’s performance as the riddler in the batman movie exceeds every expectation he was scary and intimidating and funny when the character needed to be, hats off to Paul Dano’s dedication to his craft
No hate to Jim Carry but the score should be 4 to 1
To quote Luke Skywalker " wow every word of that is wrong."
Hate to pull out the last Jedi because I hate that movie too. But this was not the riddler.
Hey I have a great idea let's make a riddler movie
Ok is he going to be funny
NO!
Ok. is he going to be charismatic
NO!!
Ok.. is he going to be interesting in any way
No!!!
Ok...😓 Let's make that "riddler" movie. I guess.
@@lordvanilla8075 i mean depending on what version of the riddler you want to see. Carrey's riddler was definitely those things but he was basically doing an over the top take of the character from the 60s comics and tv show. In interviews he basically has said he tried to be like Frank Gorshin. He's basically a lesser joker. Which is a misconception because in most other mediums since the 60s he's hardly been portrayed as "funny" or "charismatic". Hes usually been potrayed as more of a narcissist. That thinks hes more intelligent and better than everyone else. He's more calm and methodical in his ways. See the way hes potrayed in the arkham games or batman the animated series for example.
@@ds5955 Imo Dano was over the top as well. I felt he was trying to fill Heaths shoes but over acted a bit and it came off comical..I liked him though.
@@Rabbitwannagrabit i haven't seen the batman yet so I don't have an opinion of Dano's Riddler. I will soon I was more just responding to that other person who believed the riddler needed to be presnted as "funny" in the same way Jim was when he hasn't actually been presented that way in most other media in a long time.
I genuinely don't think Jim Carrey is better in any way, Paul Dano's is better in every way in my opinion he should clean sweep this.
Jim Carey is the best Riddler and Batman Forever is the most underrated Batman film 🎞
Paul Dano is far better
Paul dano>>>>joker wannabe
I gotta say, Paul Dano is far much of a threat while still acting somewhat zany like the Riddler usually does. Gotta give it to Paul, but Carrey’s performance will forever be amazing in it’s own way too
Jim Carrey was a terrible riddler.
Don't compare him to Dano
The difference between them is literally mars and earth
Dano was so intimidating and realistic in the Batman
Jim carrey 's version is my favorite for nostalgic reason he introduced me my most favorite character of all time and love the suits, As I grew I wanted a remake version of the riddler and man Paul Dano brought in a more darker twisted version of the villian and I love it!! Combining the zodiac killer and jigsaw in this version was the icing on the cake.
You cant compare. They are from different times with two totally different takes on the movie.
I don't really think riddler in The Batman is very accurate to the comics but I just love his performance. He's an intimidating villain like jigsaw who turns out to be some discord mod. It feels like he could be a real serial killer.
Agreed. It was an excellent performance and the film was good, but it didn't really feel like Riddler to me at all.
@@redpandarampage2191 That’s the point It’s a difference interpretation
I'm probably one of the few who has not seen The Batman yet because, quite frankly, I don't have much desire to. The over-emphasis on realism that all of the live-action Batman movies have had Post-Nolan have never done anything to really want to invest me into the worlds of these more recent films the way that the gothic, larger than life style of the older Batman movies always did. Even if the Burton/Schumacher movies may not have been perfect themselves I still find myself wanting to return to them more often for depicting the world of a more comic book style Batman, which is still the kind of thing that I personally want to see out of a live-action Batman movie.
The thing people complained about the most with Schumacher's films was how they had gotten to be way too cartoonish in tone by Batman & Robin, because of Schumacher complying to what WB wanted out of the franchise. Obviously it was enough of a problem to nearly kill the film series, but then Nolan's solution was to take things too much into the opposite extreme, making the movies so realistic as to risk losing the initial appeal of the world of Batman for some fans. People are always going to be applauding this creative direction to the high heavens as being successful for the franchise, but then they never consider how this direction can be just as polarizing for fans as Batman & Robin was back in the day, but in a different manner.
Even if The Riddler in Batman Forever may have been Jim Carrey playing himself as much as he was playing The Riddler, and even if it's true that him playing The Riddler just after enjoying him as The Mask was part of the reason childhood me wanted to watch the movie, I still see "The Riddler" with his portrayal more than I see it with The Batman's Riddler. Yes you can say that it's an intentionally different take on the character as much as you could with Heath Ledger as The Joker, but it's not one that works for me, and that's something that fans should always consider before they automatically declare every new rebooted take on a classic comic book character for the movies as being "better than before".
If WB really wants to get some of us fans more invested into the newer live-action Batman movies rather than alienated from them, then how about bringing some of that bold and ambitious style of the old movies back into the newer ones? For once. Learn from the mistakes of Batman & Robin by knowing how to balance the style and tone as well as Burton did with his movies. Though in all honesty Batman: The Animated Series has always been my definitive take on Batman more than any of the live-action ones, which never had any problem with style given that it's animated and could have a lot of creative freedom with the look of Gotham City and its characters as much as being invested in the show for its characterizations and writing. Even John Glover's Riddler is one that I'm always going to be more likely to want to go back to than Paul Dano. What might work for some Batman fans is not going to work for every Batman fan.
Jim Carrey is a great versatile actor...
He can be a serious method actor when he is given non-comedic roles...
Hopefully Matt Reeves will choose Jim Carrey to play The Joker in the future Batman films...
I believe he can be dark, violent, psychopathic and silly at the same time whatever the film's tone and source material he's given to...
They already cast Barry Keoghan as the Joker
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He's too young for that role and I don't think he could pull it off but hopefully I'm wrong...
Jim Carrey at his age right now is actually the perfect fit to cast as The Joker since he's responsible for the death of Bruce Wayne's parents when Bruce Wayne was just a child...
@@jisellesharmaignequintao5804 He is around the same age as Pattinson and it makes sense they both are in their late 20s since this takes place in the early years of Batman.
And Barry pulled it off, atleast of what we saw in the deleted scene with him as the Joker. A really disturbing and intresting design.
The difference between Paul Dano and Jim Carrey is that Paul Dano did the work!
Dano dug deep into the character of a murderous psychopath who was never shown love or support his entire life. You can tell this from his heavy breathing and screaming as he kills each of his victims. You hear the excitement and hatred that he’s been waiting to unleash for decades. You can also hear his precision and genius mind through his soft talking. Like every serial killer, he’s super cautious and plans out everything.
Jim Carrey literally just gave us Ace Ventura and Lloyd Christmas, which doesn’t really fall into the category of a murderous psychopath. Dano wins period.
I won hundred percent disagree with the results between the Riddler‘s from the two movies you know Jim Carrey is the best one out of all of them including the riddles themselves I think they’re a lot better and more creative and more like the actual comic books that’s how I feel!
1 - Of course, motivationally Paul Dano's Riddler is more logical
Me and my friends were laughing still at the new Riddler, as serious as the movie was, the new one was hard not to giggle at
I though I was the only one..In a lot of ways he is just as over the top goofy as hims..Me and my bro couldn't stop laughing.
Hes funny because he acts like a redditor that lives in their moms basement, which is perfect for his role
@@asimo3030 tbh In my head I was like what is he a discord mod
They each fit in he tone of their respective movies perfectly