Boeing = Fail They sent it up broken and now they have to decide if they can afford to " maybe " lose the pilots on the way down ????? Boeing ?????? Shameful waste of money/time.
Another company run by an acolyte of Jack Welch, who drove he into the ground, mcNierny. Now Watch the Chinese now buy out stelantis’ brands. You know the company run by nardelli another Jack Welch acolyte.
From about 1998 the only thing we heard from upper management at Boeing was "Shareholder Value" is the number one priority. During the 1980's it was Quality Safety and Craftsmanship.
When airlines turned from service industry to a debt managment company it destroyed all the integrity in that industry. Boeing outsourced everything it could to lowest bidder for profits. The american way
@@Geoduck. Great Britain once made jet aircraft for the civilian market. Until their jets started falling out of the skies in the seventies. The problem turned out to be a known structural weakness around the square windows. The window shape compromised the structural integrity of the airframe. Sound familiar?
IMHO, Starliner’s problems are simply a reflection of Boeing’s wider issues. I agree with Elon Musk; a technology company needs an engineer to lead, not an accountant. I’m looking at you, too, General Motors.
Having spent years butting heads with useless bureaucracy I finally got a headache and retired. Sitting back now watching things fall apart at an alarming rate. I am glad I am out of this circle of pain.
Boeing has become a true embarrassment. The stock is less than half it's all time high but they're still a $100B company because they keep getting taxpayer funded contracts despite their repeated failures.
It's very simple. SpaceX is able to work in a fixed price situation by looking forward in their designs. All others are based in previous designs and will never be able to comply with any fixed price. NASA INCLUDED
Never forget all the early Falcon failures. The secret of Spacex success is that they not only expected early failures, they planned for them and built their processes around them. The wry humor around the phrase "Rapid Unscheduled Disassembly" demonstrates this.
What did 737 9max tell you? it's not just commercial airplane division. It's corporate culture that bought into DEI, especially management. NASA as a government agency with mandated DEI program, nothing surprises me.
Their business model seems to me something like the 'Oceangate' of the exoatmosphere. Not to say lessons cannot be learned in the exploration 'entertainment industry', Lord knows many have over history, but it just doesn't seem to me a sustainable business model. It seems more to me like the 'Barnstorming' businesses between the wars in the 20th Century.
Hello My Friends Elon is a brilliant man. But he knows the value of other brilliant men, and women, and seems to surround himself with them. Hire excellent people and let them do their thing. He has been described by some as demanding. I would expect no DEI hires in his organization, and it shows in Spacex's successes. I am amazed at what they have accomplished. Go Spacex! Jack
Boeing has not fulfilled the certification requirements for crewed flight. It would seem they had been given incredible leniency in their demonstration plan as they couldn't even achieve a non crewed flight demonstration, and I think they should pay back the government any monies they have received so far for this fiasco.
WHY NOT JUST GET SOME REALLY smart high schoolers in West Virginia to design a rescue rocket for Boeing and get them to have their metal shop build the thing and test launch it at Wallops Island this November? 🌎
Companies were used to working with NASA which really had no choice but to extend contracts. There was very little competition until SpaceX came along. Thanks to Musk’s vision things are different now. Still most companies don’t have the great workforce that Musk has and never will. Musk allows his employees to innovate. Young people with great ideas are turned loose to make magic. Love it. ❤
The competition's vids at the 6:08 mark recall Murphy's law stating "The opulence of the front office decor is inversely proportional to the fundamental solvency of any firm."
A company is only as good as its employees. Appears Boeing no longer has the cream of the crop in employees, assuming those kinds of people exist in the first place.
Amazon also sued the government when Microsoft Azure was chosen for a large contract over their cloud. Why hire better engineers when you can jusy have lawyers?
When you consider that SpaceX is managed by people that know how to build these hi-tech systems (engineers that have also learned how to manage) and most of the legacy aerospace companies are now managed only by MBAs with no engineering backgrounds, it is hardly surprising that the legacy companies cannot compete. It was the same for legacy auto companies claims they would dominate the EV industry when their MBA were relatively clueless about what a good EV design consists of.
Elon! I think it's about time to send Starship up and grab the Starliner crew. You know you want to. Boeing says they will be able to pick them up sometime in Feb 2025, maybe! LOL!
Yes! living only 30 miles from the launch facility in Brownsville Texas, I am very proud of Space X! Elon Musk doesn't have to be perfect to be a great leader of this company. Other companies and leaders of those companies criticize Musk because they are not meeting or even coming close to the accomplishments of Space X!
No! The problem is that the legacy aerospace industry has willfully stopped innovation and refused to find cost efficient technology because they enjoyed huge profits by keeping the space technologies expensive.
You said both SpaceX and Boeing were disappointments for NASA. SpaceX. Has delivered and in most cases exceeded NASAs expectations/contracts and at or below osts. Get real.
Boeing used to be an engineering company Lockheed was the one that was doing all the DEI stuff they took over Lead and now they are DEI and not doing engineering and we now have nobody in this country that is capable of building the stuff that we need, musk being excluded (imagine what he would come up with for a fighter jet)
1. Fixed cost contracts are always topped up with variation orders. 2. When NASA shut down the Shuttle, all those highly trained engineers went to SpaceX. NASA also handed over all its knowhow free of charge, and SpaceX was the first to snatch it up. 3. NASA is a good example of why government can't do anything as well as private contractors.
When a CEO makes 32 million a Year. Reduces quality control inspections, makes adjustments in the company's payrolls, (not for product improvements) just for Wall Street Investors, we have problems.
Yes that pretty much sums it up. No other Aerospace company is even close to doing what spacex can achieve...and I'm not even a MUSKATEER and I can see that..
Look through US history, and you will find at least one person who stands out as a technology leader for that generation. The technology they developed created our great country in leaps and bounds.
Boeing went to court when it failed to get the contract to develop USAF tankers based on Boeing airliners. After winning another bid Boeing spent many years trying to develop the tanker, long after the planned date. Meanwhile the USAF had to sustain KC-135s built in the 1960s that were very costly to sustain for heavy global US operations. Eventually Boeing lost over $5 billion for contract failures. Meanwhile other allied airforces were operating Airbus KC-30 tankers the USAF actually wanted. Boeing screwed itself by taking legal action against competitors. The Boeing KC-46 is now operational with over 50 tankers built. This was simply to modify existing airliners into tankers. Tanker technology is over 50 years old. Who will Boeing sue next and can Boeing afford to win another court verdict.
Yes. Keep on keeping on Spacex. Good job. Reusable stages was the booster idea that gave Spacex the winning hand. Go get those contracts and bring our astronauts back from the International Space Station and that will be another reason why America is so proud of Spacex.
Elon is an Engineer. He knows the math and the nuts and bolts of what it takes to be lean and on point. Mistakes are learning points and improvements are made immediately.
I quit flying on Boeing since the 737-800 killed 346 people. I would a never of got in starliner with boing reputation. I’m betting dragon space ship will have to rescue the 2 astronauts from space station.
Same thing happened when Lockheed merged with Martin. Tried to take a 5 cent profit and squeeze it into 7 cents. I think the last major contract Martin had won was the B-58. Those morons take credit for every airplane they own, but had no development in.
I totally agree the SpaceX is doing exactly what it set out to achieve. Blue Orgin, ULA, Boeing are not living up to the expectations NASA, USAF, US Space Force had expected.
It works like this. Someone goes to a shop, asks to buy a cake, that'll be $20. The man says, wow, that is cheap, this is for the Pentagon. Oh, my apologies, we have a special Pentagon deal, that will be $80 please!
The management decisions surrounding the development and testing phases of the Starliner program have also been scrutinized. There have been concerns about the adequacy of Boeing's internal review processes and the thoroughness of NASA's oversight. The software issues encountered during the OFT suggested that more rigorous testing and quality control measures might have been needed, particularly given the high stakes involved in human spaceflight 🥇🥇🥰🥰
Yes, but their biggest problem, is it is publicly traded. Computers are running their company. The leadership ONLY cares about the bottom-line. They do not even brief their programs at their reviews. They only care about profit. When they merged with McDonald Douglas, they removed all of the technical people from their board and brought in only those who would push the bottom line.
Big difference? NASA is funded by the government and has to worry about lobbying from said government. Boeing lines pockets and, therefore, is a why they were allowed to do this.
"NASA is funded by the government"? NASA IS the government. Most large contracts are "funded by government", including many with SpaceX. So your comment seems to amount to simply "Boeing is (notably, specially or uniquely, not sure which you mean) corrupt and fails to deliver due to stealing money intended for projects. I'm reminded of a old adage: 'There aren't any 'simple' problems, just simple people.'. If Boeing are thieves it shouldn't be too hard to prove. Go for it.
@@nomdeguerre7265 I agree that it is not a simple issue. The fact that we allow government contractors to bid on a government project and then basically default on that bid is antithetical to the entire process. They should be held to the original contract and should eat any additional costs due to their mismanagement and/or their original disingenuous bid. There should be no changes allowed midstream by the Government (where half the wasted spending comes from) or the contractor who intentionally bid low knowing the government would give them more money down the road. We have people in our government who benefit directly from this process that are running these contracts, that is the first thing that needs to be changed. As to Boeing in particular, this isn't their first, nor will it be their last failure to deliver on budget or on time (KC-46a, T-7, two new Presidential Aircraft, MQ-25 Refueling Drone, and obviously their space vehicle). Boeing aggressively bid numerous military contracts in the early 2000s and the majority of them are still ongoing, over budget, and we keep giving them money. How our government handles the contractors is what needs to change. Thus my opening statements.
@@lynnjr457 False. All BS. Boeing’s fixed price contracts were just that. Boeing is billions in the hole on Air Force 1, Starliner, T-7, MQ, the tanker etc. President Trump tweeted probably from the toilet that he wanted a better deal for AirForce 1. So Boeing caved and cut the price and tried to make it work. Everyone knew it wouldn’t work. But no one knew in 2017 the POTUS was full of shit. So the USG basically just stole money from Boeing investors. Any other company would have backed out of the contract and told the president to shove it. Keep flying your 25yr old planes. I think Boeing is in the red several billion dollars on Air Force 1. And they are doing a great job, not cutting corners, they will be beautiful planes that represent us abroad. Thank you Boeing share holders for your service to our nation.
As a software engineer that must bid on fixed price contracts there is no allowance for me to go over budget which would mean getting more money than my quote. I get the agreed on price when the contracts are completed and delivered on. No more, no less. If the customers wants changes then it requires some formal addition to the scope of work. Of course this is always a concern because it's common for customers to get into pushing for 'scope creep'. It's incumbent on me to make sure that the contract is VERY specific regarding what is to be delivered in the verbiage of the contract. When I've poorly estimated a job underbidding I end up working longer hours for what amounts to less money for my time. If on the other hand I'm able to complete the project in less time spending fewer hours than I estimated, I make out better. Fixed price contracts are part of working in the 'real world'.
The video did say, it's just that the comment was so brief it was easy to miss. At 2:32 it quotes Elon Musk saying "The CEO of an aircraft company should know how to design aircraft, not spreadsheets". In reality probably too simplistic a statement, but in Boeing's case it's all too true. The original Boeing was an engineering-driven company. McDonnel-Douglas was driven by pencil-pushers. When they merged it was the McD-D managers that took control. Now, maybe the old Boeing was in financial trouble because their engineers didn't know how to handle money, but when you're manufacturing a product of any type, you need a good percentage of people at the top who thoroughly know the product. The New Boeing failed miserably at this.
When in development if you don't have a product that measures up, shouldn't the product that measures up be used as a fallback? The short answer is yes. Use the dragon space capsule to get home and then figure out what went wrong.
In this case I don't think it's fair to say space x has a monopoly on the launch market, they are not preventing any other company from showing they can preform just like how Space X is, the different is Space X is flat out showing they can get the job done.
Yes…Space X seems to be the only company able to deliver on schedule, reliably and within price. BTW, FP contracts on high technical risk developmental project are a fools game as requirements shift/change frequently which allows/requires contractors to recover costs incurred by these govt incurred changes.
Bullshit. SPACEX was awarded a little over $2B for crew dragon. You think crew dragon cost $2B or was it $20B? (I don’t know. Not sure it’s public info). The SPACEX employees I saw had Tesla badges, Tesla expense accounts. SPACEX doesn’t have a budget. They spend whatever it takes. It’s not really even like a real company. It’s a billionaire spending his personal wealth on stuff he thinks is cool. There’s something great about that, but it’s nothing like a normal company.
NASA is also required to use the left over technology from the shuttle program... which was done by one or more members of Congress, to keep their constituents employed and hopefully keep those reps in office.
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Boeing = Fail They sent it up broken and now they have to decide if they can afford to " maybe " lose the pilots on the way down ????? Boeing ?????? Shameful waste of money/time.
Another company run by an acolyte of Jack Welch, who drove he into the ground, mcNierny. Now Watch the Chinese now buy out stelantis’ brands. You know the company run by nardelli another Jack Welch acolyte.
I want a refund. No checks...just cash from Boeing.
Anyone chomping at the bit to fly on the new Boeing Nightmare Liner?
When businesses focus on being a business first, this is what happens.
Too much woke, not enough engineering.
From about 1998 the only thing we heard from upper management at Boeing was "Shareholder Value" is the number one priority. During the 1980's it was Quality Safety and Craftsmanship.
When airlines turned from service industry to a debt managment company it destroyed all the integrity in that industry. Boeing outsourced everything it could to lowest bidder for profits. The american way
@@Geoduck. Great Britain once made jet aircraft for the civilian market. Until their jets started falling out of the skies in the seventies. The problem turned out to be a known structural weakness around the square windows. The window shape compromised the structural integrity of the airframe. Sound familiar?
IMHO, Starliner’s problems are simply a reflection of Boeing’s wider issues. I agree with Elon Musk; a technology company needs an engineer to lead, not an accountant. I’m looking at you, too, General Motors.
yep Westinghouse
Having spent years butting heads with useless bureaucracy I finally got a headache and retired. Sitting back now watching things fall apart at an alarming rate. I am glad I am out of this circle of pain.
Boeing has become a true embarrassment. The stock is less than half it's all time high but they're still a $100B company because they keep getting taxpayer funded contracts despite their repeated failures.
Boeing bought MDC then inserted incompetent MDC executives into Boeing.
Boeing should be forced to pay the money back.
Paying kick backs through lobbyists is the only area Spacex has failed.
@@myfavoritemartian1 i'm struggling to figure out how that could be a problem ?
@@sprint48219 It puts them outside the good-old-boy system and they get automatic enemies. But that is classic Elon.
It's very simple. SpaceX is able to work in a fixed price situation by looking forward in their designs. All others are based in previous designs and will never be able to comply with any fixed price. NASA INCLUDED
Never forget all the early Falcon failures. The secret of Spacex success is that they not only expected early failures, they planned for them and built their processes around them. The wry humor around the phrase "Rapid Unscheduled Disassembly" demonstrates this.
I guess you can make an argument that SpaceX is a monopoly on the ground that they're the only company making a spacecraft that works...
DEI
DESTROYING YET ANOTHER ICON.
GO WOKE
GO BROKE
Boeing is another example of implementing those awesome DEI hires.
Boeing hiring LGHDTV+ people instead of based on merit might be the problem. Just thinking out loud.
Boeing's problems started decades before "DEI" was even an acronym.
@@wildbill1726 Diversity should never be a requirement
Much like nasa chief engineer apologizing for not being mindful enough to make sure she uses inclusive language to make everyone comfortable.
Boeing has become the DEI of the space industry
Yes ..Go Elon..Go SpaceX
Space X is not getting all the contracts because they are trying to monopolize the space race: they are simply the best aviable around
What did 737 9max tell you? it's not just commercial airplane division. It's corporate culture that bought into DEI, especially management. NASA as a government agency with mandated DEI program, nothing surprises me.
Yes and Hell Yes! I guess Blue Origin is the "If you can't beat em sue em" kinda company ain't it?
Blue Origin is an Amusement Park Ride without the Amusement Park.
Their business model seems to me something like the 'Oceangate' of the exoatmosphere. Not to say lessons cannot be learned in the exploration 'entertainment industry', Lord knows many have over history, but it just doesn't seem to me a sustainable business model. It seems more to me like the 'Barnstorming' businesses between the wars in the 20th Century.
Corporate culture between Boeing and SpaceX are completely different! That's your answer right there as to why Boeing failed on all fronts!!! 😂😂😂
_"...additionally these rockets are capable of landing and being re-used; a feat _*_few_*_ organizations can achieve."_
Outside of SpaceX, *name one.*
Blue origin? Okay they only aim at tourist fly in low space. Are nowhere near space x but still.
Boeing was once the finest engineering company in the world. What they've become is just pathetic.
YES! Well done SpaceX!
Boeing = DOA because of DEI
SPACE X HAS PROVEN TIME AND AGAIN THEY HAVE NO COMPETITION THE ENGINERS ARE TOP DRAWER AND MISSION
MOTIVATED ...
Because Elon will bring the hammer down on BS
Hello My Friends
Elon is a brilliant man. But he knows the value of other brilliant men, and women, and seems to surround himself with them. Hire excellent people and let them do their thing. He has been described by some as demanding. I would expect no DEI hires in his organization, and it shows in Spacex's successes. I am amazed at what they have accomplished. Go Spacex!
Jack
Yes! This is what makes SpaceX different from other companies.
Boeing has not fulfilled the certification requirements for crewed flight. It would seem they had been given incredible leniency in their demonstration plan as they couldn't even achieve a non crewed flight demonstration, and I think they should pay back the government any monies they have received so far for this fiasco.
Musk is a tech and business genius. And Space X is a meritocracy.
Yes, Meanwhile too many non-technical managers at Boeing.
The problem is one of corporate attitude. SpaceX is primarily interested in making spacecraft. Boeing is primarily interested in making money.
TANK the boeing stock so elon can buy it up. I do not want to fly in boeing planes, shits gonna completely fall apart.
@@eleganz imagine the squealing if musk bought Boeing
So 5 minutes in and you still don’t say what Elon said about the failure. Nice try goodbye
He said it at 2:35. Essentially, they’ve got accountants instead of engineers for CEO’s. Guess that flew over your head, pun intended.
Why does Boeing CEO still have his job?
Boeing cant wipe their as* without screwups and cost over runs
@@dwightpierce1891 just think what would happen if they had to design the paper
Success breeds envy from those not successful. Get out of SpaceX's way and let them rescue the Astronauts, then get us to the moon and beyond.
I'm totally agree to you 👍
STARLINER is a joke. Boeing has lost it's way and may never recover.
WHY NOT JUST GET SOME REALLY smart high schoolers in West Virginia to design a rescue rocket for Boeing and get them to have their metal shop build the thing and test launch it at Wallops Island this November? 🌎
It would work out better than the DEI hire policy at boeing.
Companies were used to working with NASA which really had no choice but to extend contracts. There was very little competition until SpaceX came along. Thanks to Musk’s vision things are different now. Still most companies don’t have the great workforce that Musk has and never will. Musk allows his employees to innovate. Young people with great ideas are turned loose to make magic. Love it. ❤
Great analysis
Elon Musk is a real life Tony Stark!
GO SpaceX 🚀 ‘RESCUE MISSION’
Good luck 🍀🙏🏻
The competition's vids at the 6:08 mark recall Murphy's law stating "The opulence of the front office decor is inversely proportional to the fundamental solvency of any firm."
Boeing is too busy processing whistleblowers, to remain competitive.
A company is only as good as its employees. Appears Boeing no longer has the cream of the crop in employees, assuming those kinds of people exist in the first place.
Amazon also sued the government when Microsoft Azure was chosen for a large contract over their cloud. Why hire better engineers when you can jusy have lawyers?
SpaceX is not corrupt.
Boeing & NASA🤔
The only modified Apollo capsule ever lost in space!
This is what happens when Boeing builds a space craft from leftover Boeing 737 parts .
DEI at work. Good job Boeing
LOL
When you consider that SpaceX is managed by people that know how to build these hi-tech systems (engineers that have also learned how to manage) and most of the legacy aerospace companies are now managed only by MBAs with no engineering backgrounds, it is hardly surprising that the legacy companies cannot compete. It was the same for legacy auto companies claims they would dominate the EV industry when their MBA were relatively clueless about what a good EV design consists of.
SpaceX's "reign" is attributed to their SUCCESS. Why would you go with a company that got your astronauts stranded.
Dragon to rescue?
Elon! I think it's about time to send Starship up and grab the Starliner crew. You know you want to. Boeing says they will be able to pick them up sometime in Feb 2025, maybe! LOL!
Boeing still has not addressed the elephant in the closet. Didn't Earn It. That's right D.E.I !
If a company is innovative and successful, they should win the contract’s and get the accolades they deserve…
Yeah👍
Yes! living only 30 miles from the launch facility in Brownsville Texas, I am very proud of Space X! Elon Musk doesn't have to be perfect to be a great leader of this company. Other companies and leaders of those companies criticize Musk because they are not meeting or even coming close to the accomplishments of Space X!
Yes! I thoroughly enjoy how often I get to witness first hand Space X launches and landings!
No! The problem is that the legacy aerospace industry has willfully stopped innovation and refused to find cost efficient technology because they enjoyed huge profits by keeping the space technologies expensive.
Click bait? Where is the big Boeing reveal!😊
Putting merit and integrity above DEI, this is why SpaceX and Elon Musk are winning.
You said both SpaceX and Boeing were disappointments for NASA. SpaceX. Has delivered and in most cases exceeded NASAs expectations/contracts and at or below osts. Get real.
Boeing used to be an engineering company Lockheed was the one that was doing all the DEI stuff they took over Lead and now they are DEI and not doing engineering and we now have nobody in this country that is capable of building the stuff that we need, musk being excluded (imagine what he would come up with for a fighter jet)
1. Fixed cost contracts are always topped up with variation orders. 2. When NASA shut down the Shuttle, all those highly trained engineers went to SpaceX. NASA also handed over all its knowhow free of charge, and SpaceX was the first to snatch it up. 3. NASA is a good example of why government can't do anything as well as private contractors.
Elon would not snatch scuttle engineers or anything from nasa. Nasa is PBS fodder.
When a CEO makes 32 million a Year. Reduces quality control inspections, makes adjustments in the company's payrolls, (not for product improvements) just for Wall Street Investors, we have problems.
Boeings got a great new DEI Hiring system. Great company they just got a bunch of those CEOs. The woke crap.
Apollo 13? Imagine if the crew was DEI?
3 dead astronauts - not hard to imagine.
Taxpayers get a refund for failure to get six successful flights in time, right??
Yes that pretty much sums it up. No other Aerospace company is even close to doing what spacex can achieve...and I'm not even a MUSKATEER and I can see that..
This is something no one can deny.
Look through US history, and you will find at least one person who stands out as a technology leader for that generation. The technology they developed created our great country in leaps and bounds.
Boeing went to court when it failed to get the contract to develop USAF tankers based on Boeing airliners. After winning another bid Boeing spent many years trying to develop the tanker, long after the planned date. Meanwhile the USAF had to sustain KC-135s built in the 1960s that were very costly to sustain for heavy global US operations. Eventually Boeing lost over $5 billion for contract failures. Meanwhile other allied airforces were operating Airbus KC-30 tankers the USAF actually wanted. Boeing screwed itself by taking legal action against competitors. The Boeing KC-46 is now operational with over 50 tankers built.
This was simply to modify existing airliners into tankers. Tanker technology is over 50 years old.
Who will Boeing sue next and can Boeing afford to win another court verdict.
This is what happens when you build a space craft from leftover 737 parts .😂
Go Space X. Go Elon!!!!!
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Yes. Keep on keeping on Spacex. Good job. Reusable stages was the booster idea that gave Spacex the winning hand. Go get those contracts and bring our astronauts back from the International Space Station and that will be another reason why America is so proud of Spacex.
If it’s Boeing… I Ain’t going!!!
👏👌😂
Elon is an Engineer. He knows the math and the nuts and bolts of what it takes to be lean and on point. Mistakes are learning points and improvements are made immediately.
Excellent review. Thank you.
👍👍👍
I quit flying on Boeing since the 737-800 killed 346 people. I would a never of got in starliner with boing reputation. I’m betting dragon space ship will have to rescue the 2 astronauts from space station.
They no longer innovate. They just cut corners to save a penny.
Same thing happened when Lockheed merged with Martin. Tried to take a 5 cent profit and squeeze it into 7 cents. I think the last major contract Martin had won was the B-58. Those morons take credit for every airplane they own, but had no development in.
Hey, quit knocking Boeing! The Starliner's door hasn't fallen off... yet.
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I think Starliner's window fell out during transporting it from the shed. Remember that?
I totally agree the SpaceX is doing exactly what it set out to achieve. Blue Orgin, ULA, Boeing are not living up to the expectations NASA, USAF, US Space Force had expected.
Okey
It works like this. Someone goes to a shop, asks to buy a cake, that'll be $20. The man says, wow, that is cheap, this is for the Pentagon. Oh, my apologies, we have a special Pentagon deal, that will be $80 please!
The management decisions surrounding the development and testing phases of the Starliner program have also been scrutinized. There have been concerns about the adequacy of Boeing's internal review processes and the thoroughness of NASA's oversight. The software issues encountered during the OFT suggested that more rigorous testing and quality control measures might have been needed, particularly given the high stakes involved in human spaceflight 🥇🥇🥰🥰
Competition is always good and outcomes would be even worse without it.
Yes, I think Boeing needs to get busy hiring accountants, MBAs, lawyers, graphic designers, and public relations experts.
Oh, they have got those already. What they need is engineers to run the shop, not accountants.
Musk is the BEST!! YES
Yes !!!!! How true. Let's leave a little room for inventiveness !!!!!
Elon Musk's SPACE X Has The Best R&D And Is Leading Because Elon Is A Visionary.
Exactly 👍
And he DOESN'T COMPROMISE ON SAFETY AND QUALITY
Boeing a DEI poster child
You sure hit that nail on the head, ouch billions wasted Elon must feel like a redheaded stepchild
Boeing is an excellent example of a DEI company
Yes, but their biggest problem, is it is publicly traded. Computers are running their company. The leadership ONLY cares about the bottom-line. They do not even brief their programs at their reviews. They only care about profit. When they merged with McDonald Douglas, they removed all of the technical people from their board and brought in only those who would push the bottom line.
Big difference? NASA is funded by the government and has to worry about lobbying from said government. Boeing lines pockets and, therefore, is a why they were allowed to do this.
"NASA is funded by the government"? NASA IS the government. Most large contracts are "funded by government", including many with SpaceX. So your comment seems to amount to simply "Boeing is (notably, specially or uniquely, not sure which you mean) corrupt and fails to deliver due to stealing money intended for projects. I'm reminded of a old adage: 'There aren't any 'simple' problems, just simple people.'. If Boeing are thieves it shouldn't be too hard to prove. Go for it.
@@nomdeguerre7265 I agree that it is not a simple issue. The fact that we allow government contractors to bid on a government project and then basically default on that bid is antithetical to the entire process. They should be held to the original contract and should eat any additional costs due to their mismanagement and/or their original disingenuous bid. There should be no changes allowed midstream by the Government (where half the wasted spending comes from) or the contractor who intentionally bid low knowing the government would give them more money down the road. We have people in our government who benefit directly from this process that are running these contracts, that is the first thing that needs to be changed. As to Boeing in particular, this isn't their first, nor will it be their last failure to deliver on budget or on time (KC-46a, T-7, two new Presidential Aircraft, MQ-25 Refueling Drone, and obviously their space vehicle). Boeing aggressively bid numerous military contracts in the early 2000s and the majority of them are still ongoing, over budget, and we keep giving them money. How our government handles the contractors is what needs to change. Thus my opening statements.
@@lynnjr457
False. All BS. Boeing’s fixed price contracts were just that. Boeing is billions in the hole on Air Force 1, Starliner, T-7, MQ, the tanker etc.
President Trump tweeted probably from the toilet that he wanted a better deal for AirForce 1. So Boeing caved and cut the price and tried to make it work. Everyone knew it wouldn’t work. But no one knew in 2017 the POTUS was full of shit.
So the USG basically just stole money from Boeing investors. Any other company would have backed out of the contract and told the president to shove it. Keep flying your 25yr old planes. I think Boeing is in the red several billion dollars on Air Force 1. And they are doing a great job, not cutting corners, they will be beautiful planes that represent us abroad. Thank you Boeing share holders for your service to our nation.
As a software engineer that must bid on fixed price contracts there is no allowance for me to go over budget which would mean getting more money than my quote. I get the agreed on price when the contracts are completed and delivered on. No more, no less.
If the customers wants changes then it requires some formal addition to the scope of work. Of course this is always a concern because it's common for customers to get into pushing for 'scope creep'. It's incumbent on me to make sure that the contract is VERY specific regarding what is to be delivered in the verbiage of the contract.
When I've poorly estimated a job underbidding I end up working longer hours for what amounts to less money for my time.
If on the other hand I'm able to complete the project in less time spending fewer hours than I estimated, I make out better.
Fixed price contracts are part of working in the 'real world'.
Elon has it right. Boeing's main problem is $hit management.
Used to cost overruns & such...
WHAT DID ELON SAY ABOUT BOEING'S FAILURES???!!! YOU NEVER SAID IT!!!
The video did say, it's just that the comment was so brief it was easy to miss. At 2:32 it quotes Elon Musk saying "The CEO of an aircraft company should know how to design aircraft, not spreadsheets". In reality probably too simplistic a statement, but in Boeing's case it's all too true.
The original Boeing was an engineering-driven company. McDonnel-Douglas was driven by pencil-pushers. When they merged it was the McD-D managers that took control. Now, maybe the old Boeing was in financial trouble because their engineers didn't know how to handle money, but when you're manufacturing a product of any type, you need a good percentage of people at the top who thoroughly know the product. The New Boeing failed miserably at this.
When in development if you don't have a product that measures up, shouldn't the product that measures up be used as a fallback? The short answer is yes.
Use the dragon space capsule to get home and then figure out what went wrong.
Hope Boeing gets it back together.
Gratz Elon
I guess NASA will not be going to Mars...
China will!
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Are you a fake review?
Why it failed?! Really? IT'S BOEING!!! LOL!
When they moved management to Chicago, it was all over.
In this case I don't think it's fair to say space x has a monopoly on the launch market, they are not preventing any other company from showing they can preform just like how Space X is, the different is Space X is flat out showing they can get the job done.
And that's a YES from me.
Good advice. Politicians should take note.
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Yes…Space X seems to be the only company able to deliver on schedule, reliably and within price. BTW, FP contracts on high technical risk developmental project are a fools game as requirements shift/change frequently which allows/requires contractors to recover costs incurred by these govt incurred changes.
Bullshit. SPACEX was awarded a little over $2B for crew dragon. You think crew dragon cost $2B or was it $20B? (I don’t know. Not sure it’s public info). The SPACEX employees I saw had Tesla badges, Tesla expense accounts. SPACEX doesn’t have a budget. They spend whatever it takes. It’s not really even like a real company. It’s a billionaire spending his personal wealth on stuff he thinks is cool. There’s something great about that, but it’s nothing like a normal company.
NASA is also required to use the left over technology from the shuttle program... which was done by one or more members of Congress, to keep their constituents employed and hopefully keep those reps in office.