That was a great, succinct comparison. Very real world. And, I appreciated your thoughts, at the end. Thank you. And, I'm grateful to your subscriber for making himself and his vehicle available.
Suspension damper was retuned and steering was retuned. I think if you compared the LE to the regular R around the circuit track, it will beat the regular R.
I totally forgot when you compare MSRP vs MSRP it’s only 5k more. Lighter wheel and tire package makes the gap even less. There’s a lot of collectors out there willing to pay 70+ for the car and keep it garaged
@@AfoothatsfireLike what we talked about before, there are people out there not willing to do the leg work to get the best price which drives up the price even more. I really would like to see Honda take a note from Chevy and penalize these dealerships from insane markups by terminating their allocations.
@@Afoothatsfire oh yeah, for sure. I never pay over MSRP. I got a 2018 civic type r back in December 2017 for MSRP. I also got my Shelby GT350R below MSRP
So they give less and charge more? Im not current with these new civics, but doesn’t the LE at least have different dampening, spring rates, gear ratios?
The LE looks good. I’ve always liked Phoenix Yellow. The wheels are a lot lighter. The OEM carbon is a nice touch. That stuff is expensive. It also looks like the dealer hit him with some mandatory sales options, because he has pretty much everything. And no one wants to pay the $1,500 for the carbon mirror caps. Great car, I looked for one before I bought my M4, but then I talked myself into getting something else. Also, don’t short yourself. Check the window sticker. All US Type Rs are the Touring model. We have no base models. You gotta represent! 🤣🙌
@@Afoothatsfire it wasn’t a dig, against you. It’s more like, that what the dealers are doing to people, a lot of times. They will sell you the car for a good deal, but make you buy $5k in accessories. The regular Type Rs have been like that for years. I’m glad you didn’t get forced to buy everything. That’s just been the dealers shady way of doing business. Prices are stupid, these days. Dealers always do shady things. I bought my Sonic Gray CTR, back in 2020, for $34,257, right off the truck. I was at the dealer, yesterday, getting my oil changed on my 21 SGP Accord Touring, they wanted $38k for a SGP 11th Gen Civic Si! $8,995 markup on an Si! I’m glad you didn’t get taken. Then LE is much harder to get. I looked for one, last year, and I couldn’t find one at a good deal. Then I saw a guy on Facebook, that bought 2, and I just gave up. I can’t even find one, this guy has 2.
Well they said touring but it feels basic because I don’t have sunroof, lane watch camera, auto dimming mirror, rain sensing wipers that the touring models come with. I get some of the items for weight savings but I was mostly aggravated about some type of blind spot monitor or lane watch and auto dimming mirror. I agree. I spoke with Rene and he mentioned the deal he got which was unusual for someone with a LE but he played his cards right and it worked out for him. Most people and dealers tried it with me, sell me the car without the markup but take the add ons that was placed on the car.
@@eddiemcars the auto dimming rear view, I think, is about all you’re going to get. Like you said, no sunroof for weight. I completely agree with the blind spot monitors. They could have at least done that. My 2019 didn’t even have the Honda Sensing equipment. So, the rear view mirror, was just a rod stuck to the glass, like a 1986 Ford Escort. The lane watch camera has been removed from all Hondas. I never got a chance to own a Honda with it. My 21 Accord Touring has literally everything, heated and cooled seats, heads up display, magnetic ride suspension, sunroof, and has no lane watch camera. Somewhere along the line, they just removed it from every model. My girlfriends 2019 Civic has lane watch, and it’s gone from the newer cars.
@@eddiemcarsI hear ya. But I’m with @L4t3xs on this. Yellow is a rare color. But the 2019 Electron Blue CTR should be considered a rare color as well. And most people like Electron Blue better. And it was one of the original B16 Si colors that help put Honda on the street racing scene market. 💪🏽💯
Yeah that was not bad but you need some standing pulls that would had more Drama. But your Right at the end of the day buying the regular TypeR is the better choice 😎👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿
As an investment the LE wins hands down Performance? Its a wash - whether you get the LE or not youll spend that difference to upgrade a base R with forged wheels If you want a yellow R? Totally worth it lol LE should be a collectors car - its why I daily a boost blue R and not an LE
@@Afoothatsfire because of the content is mostly BMW and I always watch, but I gotta be honest when the Honda was bought I was O hell, for the love god why
That was a great, succinct comparison. Very real world. And, I appreciated your thoughts, at the end. Thank you. And, I'm grateful to your subscriber for making himself and his vehicle available.
Thank you for watching. I’m glad you found the comparison helpful! Also I’m extremely happy my subscriber provided his car for this video!
Are you going to keep this car or get the new 11th gen?
Suspension damper was retuned and steering was retuned. I think if you compared the LE to the regular R around the circuit track, it will beat the regular R.
LE is not worth the price it commands, nice seeing the LE side by side with a base R though!
Unless you plan to modify it and price sold was exactly MSRP
I love the Boost Blue better why? Because that's one of my favorite Colors with boost blue.
I think the difference in MSRP is worth the price but the mark ups are insane. 60k to 80k
I totally forgot when you compare MSRP vs MSRP it’s only 5k more.
Lighter wheel and tire package makes the gap even less.
There’s a lot of collectors out there willing to pay 70+ for the car and keep it garaged
@@AfoothatsfireLike what we talked about before, there are people out there not willing to do the leg work to get the best price which drives up the price even more. I really would like to see Honda take a note from Chevy and penalize these dealerships from insane markups by terminating their allocations.
@@Afoothatsfire oh yeah, for sure. I never pay over MSRP. I got a 2018 civic type r back in December 2017 for MSRP. I also got my Shelby GT350R below MSRP
So they give less and charge more? Im not current with these new civics, but doesn’t the LE at least have different dampening, spring rates, gear ratios?
Yes, that’s correct. The LE has different programming for the adaptive suspension.
Gearing is same the same though.
I have 2 type r. One is 2019 in white the other is 2021 limited edition phoenix yellow. Only has 1000 miles on it
I live in the middle of nc. Message me if you wanna see them. Mine is 555 on the line
If you use it on a circuit , yes of course! but just city and long drive? no.
The blue you got is awesome. 🔥
Thank you. I appreciate it. I love the Boost Blue!
The LE looks good. I’ve always liked Phoenix Yellow. The wheels are a lot lighter. The OEM carbon is a nice touch. That stuff is expensive. It also looks like the dealer hit him with some mandatory sales options, because he has pretty much everything. And no one wants to pay the $1,500 for the carbon mirror caps. Great car, I looked for one before I bought my M4, but then I talked myself into getting something else. Also, don’t short yourself. Check the window sticker. All US Type Rs are the Touring model. We have no base models. You gotta represent! 🤣🙌
@@Afoothatsfire it wasn’t a dig, against you. It’s more like, that what the dealers are doing to people, a lot of times. They will sell you the car for a good deal, but make you buy $5k in accessories. The regular Type Rs have been like that for years. I’m glad you didn’t get forced to buy everything. That’s just been the dealers shady way of doing business. Prices are stupid, these days. Dealers always do shady things. I bought my Sonic Gray CTR, back in 2020, for $34,257, right off the truck. I was at the dealer, yesterday, getting my oil changed on my 21 SGP Accord Touring, they wanted $38k for a SGP 11th Gen Civic Si! $8,995 markup on an Si! I’m glad you didn’t get taken. Then LE is much harder to get. I looked for one, last year, and I couldn’t find one at a good deal. Then I saw a guy on Facebook, that bought 2, and I just gave up. I can’t even find one, this guy has 2.
Well they said touring but it feels basic because I don’t have sunroof, lane watch camera, auto dimming mirror, rain sensing wipers that the touring models come with. I get some of the items for weight savings but I was mostly aggravated about some type of blind spot monitor or lane watch and auto dimming mirror.
I agree. I spoke with Rene and he mentioned the deal he got which was unusual for someone with a LE but he played his cards right and it worked out for him.
Most people and dealers tried it with me, sell me the car without the markup but take the add ons that was placed on the car.
@@eddiemcars the auto dimming rear view, I think, is about all you’re going to get. Like you said, no sunroof for weight. I completely agree with the blind spot monitors. They could have at least done that. My 2019 didn’t even have the Honda Sensing equipment. So, the rear view mirror, was just a rod stuck to the glass, like a 1986 Ford Escort. The lane watch camera has been removed from all Hondas. I never got a chance to own a Honda with it. My 21 Accord Touring has literally everything, heated and cooled seats, heads up display, magnetic ride suspension, sunroof, and has no lane watch camera. Somewhere along the line, they just removed it from every model. My girlfriends 2019 Civic has lane watch, and it’s gone from the newer cars.
@@g.dubyou6263 yep. That was one of my first mods to the Type R was the auto dimming mirror replacement.
So, limited edition means you get less shit for more money?
Means you get a rare color and lighter weight with a more track focused package.
@@eddiemcarsI hear ya. But I’m with @L4t3xs on this. Yellow is a rare color. But the 2019 Electron Blue CTR should be considered a rare color as well. And most people like Electron Blue better. And it was one of the original B16 Si colors that help put Honda on the street racing scene market. 💪🏽💯
Yeah that was not bad but you need some standing pulls that would had more Drama. But your Right at the end of the day buying the regular TypeR is the better choice 😎👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿
Yeah we couldn’t find a good location for a standing pull.
As an investment the LE wins hands down
Performance? Its a wash - whether you get the LE or not youll spend that difference to upgrade a base R with forged wheels
If you want a yellow R? Totally worth it lol
LE should be a collectors car - its why I daily a boost blue R and not an LE
sorry but Type R LE needs a driver mod, those shifts are terrible. Is he new to drivng manual if not he needs shifting lessons.
He’s fairly new to driving a manual. So let’s go easy on him. I’m sure in a few months or so he’ll dominate!
Guy in the limited can’t drive
He was new to manual car. We’ll run it again.
Lol thought the same ! You can hear him miss shifting
Also the LE is 1 second faster at The Bend Track in Australia nothing big but with pro driver driving it.
th-cam.com/video/77w9zT4LVtQ/w-d-xo.html
and it's 23 seconds faster than the 17-19 CTR
That’s big difference!
Man honestly when you bought it I could have told you hell no its not worth it
@@Afoothatsfire it’s a Honda… I mean why would you EVER want one????
@@Afoothatsfire because of the content is mostly BMW and I always watch, but I gotta be honest when the Honda was bought I was O hell, for the love god why
@@Afoothatsfire yea he is good dude
@@Afoothatsfire na that’s the same for ALL new vehicles. That’s not just a bmw thing and you know it
@@sweoff Didn't know Honda was the brand to shit on, isn't bmw the one not to get at least without a lease lmao.
Can i have 1🙏🙏🙏😭😭
Not worth the piece of crap increase in price. Rip off shit boxes
Broke guys are funny
@@TheFK8Life Evo n sti over here son. What you driving
@@happyguy4525 2021 Type R kid Get your money up
I guess this debate will need to be settled on the street.
Money talks I got r35 gtr and a A90 Supra what you got.