lets be honest if the time limit wasn't in this episode. EGGMAN WOULD'VE WON METAL CARRIED HARD💀💀 EDIT: i get it bowser wouldve still won now can you stop fighting
No one is salty here dude. Fuckin love Bowser and he for sure deserved the win, but Neo Metal was not utilized to his fullest potential. No bio-data copied when it should have been.
Bowser taking a full blast of the death egg to protect his minions shows so much he cares about his minions even in the side games of the Mario and luigi games proves that.
I like how accurate both of their leadership skills are displayed during the fight. Bowser runs into the frontlines alongside his army while Eggman hides behind his.
I absolutely loved this Death Battle. Definitely now one of my top 3 most favorites. I didn't really mind who won as I love both Bowser and Eggman as villians. I think Bowser Vs Eggman is a close fight and would end in a tie or could go either way. Now I do think Death Battle downplayed Eggman a little bit, but I understand why they did that as they want to give their audience a clear winner even if it's a close fight, so I understand why they downplayed Eggman a little bit.
I personally do agree with the results as it can go either way tbh. Bowser and Eggman are pretty close in terms of regular power. Because again, they DID mention Dreamy Bowser, who is one of the strongest characters in fiction, fullstop, and a lot of the alternates honestly shut down most of the complaints, in my opinion, as a fan of both sides. Both sides have oneshot capabilities. I'm not a full powerscaler either as powerscaling is pretty lame to take seriously, I typically see it as a guideline. But they're pretty equal, and the animations are always designed to be a "scenario" rather than a "fact."
Also loads of people are angry and clearly only take what’s face value (being the main animation) for them not ‘including’ super Eggman even though they did in the alternative scenarios and even state how it takes a lot of time for that form to work. Overall I can’t even understand the complaints anyway when the fight and animation was just soo peak, I just don’t get how they fumbled Omni-Man vs Bardock when you compare the analysis and stuff to this fight, must’ve been either for clout (rage bait) or just the fact they applied more budget to this, but the latter seems unreasonable so they could’ve possibly been biased since Death Battle made out Nolan destroyed a planet on his own when he really and very obviously didn’t.
Eggman was definitely missing a lot, no denying that But regardless, i think the outcome will stay the same, because Metal was carrying and he blew it by hurting jr and making bows lose it
@@The_Wolf_At_Your_DoorIndeed, if Eggman brought the Death Egg robots from Sonic forces And Metal have turned Into Metal Overlord thing would have Get More Interesting.
I'm a Sonic fan and Bowser still wins. Though I do love Bowser specifically. Guys, it's basically anime with high power levels vs fairytale star magic and reality bending. The only thing I thimk Eggman could've used is the Time Eater, and even then, maybe Kamek or the Stars have a counter to that too. Probably. I don't even know what it would do, besides splitting the Koopa Troops. Also, I appreciate this fight wasn't too bloody or graphic, and more like the Mario and Sonic-verse violence. When it gets like that it just reminds you you're watching a fan animation.
I'm pretty sure that a turtle that managed to survive universe level blackholes and has come back to fight even as a pile of bones isn't just going to lose to Eggman
To be fair if it was JUST HUMAN EGGMAN AND BOWSER it wouldn’t be fun or fair so they had to make it fair and Intrestinf by giving them all there average toys and tools but in the video they did show alternative scenarios most of which bowers wins cause his tools are OP
No it makes sense. Deathbattle is about letting the combatants use every and all available options that they can muster to the fight for a definitive answer.
Neat how there is 4 big characters of not on both side. Eggman, Sage, Infinite, and Metal Sonic Bowser, Bowser Jr, Kamek, and King Boo. Meaning Infinite was kinda the canary of Eggman losing since he died and all of Bowser’s Allie’s just got knocked down/away then actually killed.
I feel like calling Infinite a big threat in this feels a bit disingenuous to his actual screen time, lol. Besides, I feel like Metal’s more than enough to fill up two of those big character slots for Eggman. He was basically the MVP of that whole fight.
@@cantmakeacreativename2072I mean kill count wise he did way more than King Boo on screen as well. There is a reason a part of the fight was them juggling the phantom Ruby.
Eggman has an entire armada, and still loses to Bowser. Meanwhile, Mario only needs to either touch an axe and send Bowser plummeting into lava, or hit Bowser 3 times and send him flying into the emptiness of space.
metal DEFINITELY would’ve stood more of a chance. he could’ve literally soloed his entire army if he wanted to. Not only that, eggman definitely could used more of his army. death battle limited his army by a ton. eggman would’ve def won if he had his full army
@@groovydudewithdumbintentionswe have to remember metal was reprogrammed to ensure loyalty so it’s not insane to think that a limit has been put in place
I loved this fight, for me it didn’t matter who won, as long as I was entertained and saw characters I like get their time, I was happy like bowser, Eggman (duh) King boo and Metal (love these two)
Tbh I thought Eggman would absolutely stomp Bowser, but after seeing the video I realized how close this match actually was. Still think Eggman should've won tho.
I think it's fair to say if they approached this without "all mcguffins" (as one of the rules was both sides were allowed every one-time power up/weapon they ever had), it'd be in Eggman's favor. Something like the Chaos Emeralds and Master Emerald would be something normally in Eggman's toolbox and I can't see anything beyond the one-time op powerups in Bowser's side that can defeat Super Neo.
@ I don’t know, Bowser’s had the Power Stars a myriad of times as well, would they not count in his arsenal by those rules? I personally feel like Bowser has the advantage through magic and organic troops. As stated by Starline in the IDW comics, while top ranking robots like Metal do approach battles analytically, they lack a certain creativity found in living beings.
@@lx5323 The Power Stars are powerful but it really depends on the usage, Super Neo would still be an extremely overwhelming force to oppose them (his only real weakness is his Super form being unstable) but pair him with Infinite in a fight where he's actually taken seriously and Bowser has an uphill battle. The Phantom Ruby's power can actually override the invincibility of Super forms and likely it's comparative to similar states.
Dude it’s the Mario universe. Even if Jr died a single spell and he would just be back up in the next scene, and that’s assuming you can’t get past the ludicrous durability that the Mario universe possesses Bowser won this fight literally as a skeleton If it makes you feel better Infinite also canonically didn’t die. He just got hit by the big block he technically increased the force of with gravity manipulation and spent the battle rethinking his life choices
Metal would have taken the army much further he was eliminating all the major threats but he made one very fatal mistake he put hands on JR and Bowser will be damned if anyone hurts his kid too bad eggman never had that much love for sage
What do you mean he never had that much love for sage? If he didn’t. Would eggman even keep her around? And would’t he not listen to her about the treat that was coming in sonic frontiers? Heck he trust her with his mech and everything. They literally said this in the episode. Where dose any of that mean he doesn’t love her? And don’t say that was a joke. Even if it was. It was a bad joke. Ngl.
True, while eggman was starting to get that parental bond, bowser and jrs was stronger, if metal hadn’t hit jr when he protected bowser, bowser wouldn’t of used the grand star and since metal super form was unstable it caused the emeralds to leave him.
Let me remind you Sonic fans what a famous person said “The person would win in a fight is the person the script writer wants to win! These are fictional characters now stop asking these boneheaded questions.”
@@Max-oi5ny That’s honestly fair, especially since that’s mostly what Mario is in a nutshell. I definitely think both fanbases need to hear this though. Sonic definitely first though.
This is the worst agreement ever.this is vs debating the ENTIRE reason we are here is to find out who wins a fight between 2 fictional characters.people love doing this and will happily get evidence for their side wining.Things like what your saying takes away all the fun of vs battles. Goku vs Superman said it best.
@@plantgang8738but he is right. In every franchise they make the hero just barely strong enough to win. When the villain is stronger, the hero also gets stronger and vice versa. You cant come up with a logical comparison since every characters power is inconsistent
To be fair, Death Battle's had a few where they obviously wanted one to win but couldn't ignore something the other guy had, Cable vs. Booster Gold specifically comes to mind lol
@@Maximus-u4c Morø, the animator, confirmed that Infinite lived. However, he fled the battle because he lost the Phantom Ruby… y’know, since Infinite is nothing but the weakling he fears to be without it.
Same here, first time I’ve seen a fight only video include subtitles and not just that, an official death batttle video in a while but there are some spelling errors here and there but I’m glad that it’s still there
I personally think that Super Neo Metal should have just won it for Eggman, but I don’t disagree with every other verdict Death Battle had. I just disagree with the grand stars or Kamek being enough to stop SUPER Neo Metal specifically. Bias aside though, this entire fight was absolute peak, and both Bowser and Eggman are easily gigachads of gaming villains.
Super Neo has the stipulation that his Super form is unstable. If the fight were more accurate he'd fluctuate between Super and basic Neo so would need to recharge back and forth (like the Super Mecha Sonic boss). Comparatively, Infinite would be the most valuable asset in terms of power and consistency as long as the Death Egg is around to max out his power.
@@maleficking6556 but King Boo countered Infinite way too hard. even if their reality manipulation are equal in terms of intensity, King BOO is immune to most ways you can manipulate reality. Gravity manipulation? King Boo floats anyway. physical objects? King Boo is a ghost and passes through everything you can throw. clones? King boo has multi-target attacks, and can clone himself too. Infinite could solo almost entire Koopa Army, but King Boo is immune to almost all physical attacks, and can create heavy weight metal balls or in this case, Twomps, above infinite to crush him.
@@wrigthtalekenavi2066 I mean here's something super simple, why not just....NOT send Infinite up against ghosts who can work around the Phantom Ruby? Sage is there, she can do the numbers and figure that out. Even then, if basic Metal Sonic can casually knock away King Boo's crown, what's stopping Infinite who stacks higher than Neo Metal?
I'm more of a Sonic fan, but i'm not surprised Eggman lost. Bowser knows actual stragegy and how to deal with his troops, While Eggman's only strategy is throwing everything he has at his opponent with no planning in hopes of overwhelming them.
+ eggman does not give an absolute heck about his army while you see Bowser’s army following him everywhere because he actually cares about them,he even protected them from the beam.
@julesw9476 Exactly, which is why he can coordinate well with them, while eggman just stands back and watches, hoping his army will do everything for him, he's so lazy
I don’t agree with the ending. I just believe Eggman’s feats scale higher than Bowser’s consistently. Don’t think that’s really cope as you could probably make a case for both sides. But the animation was great tho.
I think this is very accurate. Bowser has survived countless times being burned to death, and bowser has survived being sucked into a black hole. And not to mention Bowser has gotten bigger than average size before. Eggman was never gonna win!
I like how the characters’s have their subtitles represent how active they are in the battle. -Bowser, Neo Metal, and Infinite (Even though he doesn’t deserve it) have large subtitles showing that they’re in the frontlines doing the most work. -Eggman has normal sized subtitles, for his more distance based combat. -Sage has Smol subtitles for her more passive role in battle. - They also have corresponding colors, with Bowser and Neo Metal having their colors change depending on what form they’re in.
After this, bowser could definitely overpower ganondorf, but that was before they did actual research. Glad my favorite fictional character won! I always knew he would before this one was even planned!
my reaction to this death battle: yes! that's it! the final indisputable answer to the question of who would win in a fight between dr eggman and Bowser!!!!!!!... oh who am I kidding everyone's going to argue this forever
I get it’s just natural for people who care about powerscaling to get mad and whiny, but like, damn. I feel like they did the Sonic characters justice here I don’t really see what there is to get mad about.
@@EnbyVess To me it just feels like they limited Eggman here, Like the Phantom Ruby has done a lot more but Infinite was crushed by a simple thwomp when he could contend with Sonic himself. Although i will admit the thwomp scene is iconic AF lol. But yeah i feel like they didn't give Eggman his all. But regardless the fight itself is FIRE.
@@TycitronYou gotta keep animation pacing in mind. It’s already four minutes, an extended King Boo vs Infinite segment would be cool (having Bowser Jr. use a Wonder Flower to counter the illusions could be neat too) but it miiight be a bit much to expect, especially because it’s 2D animation. They said the Ruby wouldn’t be the deciding factor in the analysis, so I think giving it a moment to do some cool stuff and take out some of Bowser’s boss-level threats before being handled is alright. When you’re dealing with entire armies and arsenals, you can’t show everything to its full potential.
@@TycitronBare in mind this stuff cost money 4 minutes of work is already a lot so including everything would have been impossible plus from what I remember only moro animated this to as well
While i still see bowser winning i dont agree with all their reasoning. For one, bowsers army is loyal, and his leadership superior, but the average robot in eggmans army is absolutely a magnitude of strenght above bowsers army. I just do not see any thing below like, chain chomps, thwomps being able to survive the cannons, machineguns and laser guns found on average low grade eggman bots. With things like boos and the magic wielders having the best luck in counter offensive
It interresting that beside when he ordered his army to attack and throw the cardboard monster to matal, he never order his troop they just know when he need them and know what to do, you can see when super neo matal attack he block, mean he didn't expect any shield
They did infinite dirty. I get budget and time limitations, but he never showed off his full power. He could make clones that are equal to the original in power, imagine if he did that to bowsers troops. it's the perfect counter. At least he washed a large chunk of bowsers troops and restrained bowser himself.
To some degree. Remember, they are mostly meant to counter Sonic and have been bested by Big and Knuckles. Both of which are equal to Bowser's strength to some degree. On the other hand, Bowser's forces are more diverse and adapatable. Even having some minions that can out tank Eggman's dps. Like Womps are straight up immune to everything except for Thwomps and their back. Or having a plethora of minions that are straight up trains and other vehicles.
I think this would happen, and if kamek did something like fill the area with lava, it likely would've ended sooner, especially if the koopalings were there
I dunno, I like to think that this whole fight is just practice for when both mario and sonic pull up at their crib and that eggman and bowser are friends
lets be honest
if the time limit wasn't in this episode. EGGMAN WOULD'VE WON
METAL CARRIED HARD💀💀
EDIT: i get it bowser wouldve still won now can you stop fighting
The sonic profile picture is salty. In other news, the sky is blue
Time limit or not, Bowser still solos.
It explains why bowser won at the end
No one is salty here dude. Fuckin love Bowser and he for sure deserved the win, but Neo Metal was not utilized to his fullest potential. No bio-data copied when it should have been.
I just liked the funny turtle fighting the slightly overweight evil scientist🐌
King Boo looks so over getting invited to Bowser's weddings.
"Next time I'm just sending a gift."
He did get to have his fun with Bumfinite tho. Put the good with the bad.
Bowser taking a full blast of the death egg to protect his minions shows so much he cares about his minions even in the side games of the Mario and luigi games proves that.
Accurate calling Metal Sonic the goat in the subtitles
I like how accurate both of their leadership skills are displayed during the fight. Bowser runs into the frontlines alongside his army while Eggman hides behind his.
1:20 are we not going to talk about how King Boo is like “Ha ha looser, let me show you how it’s done.”?
Nobody seems to mention it since they're too worried about simping for Infinite lmao
Ikr.
Lucky for him, he doesn't have any mass for gravity to weigh down.
Being a ghost and all
I absolutely loved this Death Battle. Definitely now one of my top 3 most favorites. I didn't really mind who won as I love both Bowser and Eggman as villians. I think Bowser Vs Eggman is a close fight and would end in a tie or could go either way. Now I do think Death Battle downplayed Eggman a little bit, but I understand why they did that as they want to give their audience a clear winner even if it's a close fight, so I understand why they downplayed Eggman a little bit.
That’s honestly a very fair answer instead of just shitting on one of the other opponents. As both a Sonic and Mario fan, thank you 🙏
@orion9630 Finally... a fan who ISN'T immature and petty!
Who accepts their favorite's loss with dignity and grace!
Bro, when I saw Bowser and his team winning, bro, in my room, I was screaming and cheering so loud for Bowser and his team dawg
I actually predicted the loyalty between Bowser and his army being one of the reasons Bowser won.
I personally do agree with the results as it can go either way tbh.
Bowser and Eggman are pretty close in terms of regular power.
Because again, they DID mention Dreamy Bowser, who is one of the strongest characters in fiction, fullstop, and a lot of the alternates honestly shut down most of the complaints, in my opinion, as a fan of both sides.
Both sides have oneshot capabilities.
I'm not a full powerscaler either as powerscaling is pretty lame to take seriously, I typically see it as a guideline.
But they're pretty equal, and the animations are always designed to be a "scenario" rather than a "fact."
Also loads of people are angry and clearly only take what’s face value (being the main animation) for them not ‘including’ super Eggman even though they did in the alternative scenarios and even state how it takes a lot of time for that form to work.
Overall I can’t even understand the complaints anyway when the fight and animation was just soo peak, I just don’t get how they fumbled Omni-Man vs Bardock when you compare the analysis and stuff to this fight, must’ve been either for clout (rage bait) or just the fact they applied more budget to this, but the latter seems unreasonable so they could’ve possibly been biased since Death Battle made out Nolan destroyed a planet on his own when he really and very obviously didn’t.
@Okus477 Yep, absolutely agree with you there!
Eggman was definitely missing a lot, no denying that
But regardless, i think the outcome will stay the same, because Metal was carrying and he blew it by hurting jr and making bows lose it
Of course he's missing a lot; they have to make these video a certain length of time.
@@The_Wolf_At_Your_DoorIndeed, if Eggman brought the Death Egg robots from Sonic forces And Metal have turned Into Metal Overlord thing would have Get More Interesting.
He would have had better time if he brought back his various mecha sonics, Mecha knuckles, and the hard-boiled Heavies.
@@The_Wolf_At_Your_DoorKeep crying
@@oddguy5356 first of all mecha sonic and knuckles are in scarpnick island so they can’t
I'm a Sonic fan and Bowser still wins. Though I do love Bowser specifically.
Guys, it's basically anime with high power levels vs fairytale star magic and reality bending. The only thing I thimk Eggman could've used is the Time Eater, and even then, maybe Kamek or the Stars have a counter to that too. Probably. I don't even know what it would do, besides splitting the Koopa Troops.
Also, I appreciate this fight wasn't too bloody or graphic, and more like the Mario and Sonic-verse violence. When it gets like that it just reminds you you're watching a fan animation.
Wizz did mention that Bowser's wish power could just remove time eater from existence
@@The-ne9ut But on the other hand, the Time Eater can also disable the Dreamstone or similar items itself.
Mario and sonic watching the battle :👁️👄👁️
Nah, Mario would be watching with Peach, Sonic's foot might be with them though.
@@KumatorasLittleCutie-Pie
I was JUST about to say, if we’re going DB’s canon, Sonic is dead…. BOTH versions. 😂
@@KumatorasLittleCutie-Pie RIP Luigi tho.
@@gabrielgarcia3524 Tails doesn’t beat Luigi anymore
@gabrielgarcia3524 (After the battle ends mario gets up)
Peach: mario where are you going?
Mario: to get you a new fox coat
I'm pretty sure that a turtle that managed to survive universe level blackholes and has come back to fight even as a pile of bones isn't just going to lose to Eggman
To be fair if it was JUST HUMAN EGGMAN AND BOWSER it wouldn’t be fun or fair so they had to make it fair and Intrestinf by giving them all there average toys and tools but in the video they did show alternative scenarios most of which bowers wins cause his tools are OP
No it makes sense. Deathbattle is about letting the combatants use every and all available options that they can muster to the fight for a definitive answer.
Metal Sonic was aura farming the entire battle.
You're not in an edit bro😭
I wanna see the alternative scenarios MORØ made that aren't fully shown yet.
Apparently there was a few alternate fights the death battle hinted at that looks very interesting
I KNEW THE ARTSTYLE WAS SIMALER
The moment i saw bowser jr. get hurt i knew bowser would unleash hell and destroy eggman
Meanwhile Sage, Private Goomp, Sergeant Guy and Corporal Paraplonk: 🍿
Neat how there is 4 big characters of not on both side.
Eggman, Sage, Infinite, and Metal Sonic
Bowser, Bowser Jr, Kamek, and King Boo.
Meaning Infinite was kinda the canary of Eggman losing since he died and all of Bowser’s Allie’s just got knocked down/away then actually killed.
I feel like calling Infinite a big threat in this feels a bit disingenuous to his actual screen time, lol. Besides, I feel like Metal’s more than enough to fill up two of those big character slots for Eggman. He was basically the MVP of that whole fight.
@@cantmakeacreativename2072I mean kill count wise he did way more than King Boo on screen as well. There is a reason a part of the fight was them juggling the phantom Ruby.
@@cantmakeacreativename2072 Infinite is actually more valuable than Metal Sonic in this match up, the battle just wanted to glaze Metal Sonic.
Bro they hoed tf outta infinite they were better off not even using him😂
mario and sonic meanwhile in the mushroom kingdom....
"hey a sonic what the hell is going on in the other sid of the world?"
"donno pal"
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💀sonic fans acting like db fans when their characters lose
Fun fact sonic lost twice in some battles he was in
At least we aren’t that toxic compared to them
To be fair, Sonic fans aren’t always like db fans
They made Metal look cool, I'm good
Believe me, if Eggman had won, Mario fans would have been worse off, for them all the characters in the Mario verse are outer lol
Eggman has an entire armada, and still loses to Bowser.
Meanwhile, Mario only needs to either touch an axe and send Bowser plummeting into lava, or hit Bowser 3 times and send him flying into the emptiness of space.
thats game mechanics, and this battle isnt programmed to be like the games isnt it?
and I don't think my comment was ever programmed to be taken seriously.
@@tronus961 and so i did lmao
@ damn
@@tronus961 dw i no longer hold a grudge against u
Bowser pretty much had this in the bag. Especially after Metal beating Bowser Junior down like that.
metal DEFINITELY would’ve stood more of a chance.
he could’ve literally soloed his entire army if he wanted to.
Not only that, eggman definitely could used more of his army. death battle limited his army by a ton. eggman would’ve def won if he had his full army
@@groovydudewithdumbintentionswe have to remember metal was reprogrammed to ensure loyalty so it’s not insane to think that a limit has been put in place
@@KGKSkull prob
I'm just surprised how Bowser Jr was still standing after that
@ never underestimate koopa scutes
I loved this fight, for me it didn’t matter who won, as long as I was entertained and saw characters I like get their time, I was happy like bowser, Eggman (duh) King boo and Metal (love these two)
I love it when Bowser says "Shut up nerd!"🤣🤣🤣
This fight probably happened because bowser and eggman has a disagreement on how they wanted to sabotage this year's Olympics
Tbh I thought Eggman would absolutely stomp Bowser, but after seeing the video I realized how close this match actually was. Still think Eggman should've won tho.
Eggman wins with varying degrees of difficulty depending on the lee-way you grant both
@@alexbaribeaultyeah, it really could’ve gone either way and a fair explanation could’ve been given
I think it's fair to say if they approached this without "all mcguffins" (as one of the rules was both sides were allowed every one-time power up/weapon they ever had), it'd be in Eggman's favor. Something like the Chaos Emeralds and Master Emerald would be something normally in Eggman's toolbox and I can't see anything beyond the one-time op powerups in Bowser's side that can defeat Super Neo.
@ I don’t know, Bowser’s had the Power Stars a myriad of times as well, would they not count in his arsenal by those rules?
I personally feel like Bowser has the advantage through magic and organic troops. As stated by Starline in the IDW comics, while top ranking robots like Metal do approach battles analytically, they lack a certain creativity found in living beings.
@@lx5323 The Power Stars are powerful but it really depends on the usage, Super Neo would still be an extremely overwhelming force to oppose them (his only real weakness is his Super form being unstable) but pair him with Infinite in a fight where he's actually taken seriously and Bowser has an uphill battle.
The Phantom Ruby's power can actually override the invincibility of Super forms and likely it's comparative to similar states.
Can we talk about how Safe is Plotting even after her father is gone while Or-Bot and Cue-Bot are deserting?
She's got to get revenge.
Let's be honest here, How tf did Bowser Jr. survive an attack from SUPER NEO METAL SONIC?
Bowser Jr. was "mostly" shielded from the paint '🎨 X' he made, plus he fights on par with Mario.
@@KumatorasLittleCutie-Pie And Super Neo Metal Sonic would probably speedblitz AND one tap Mario
@@Number1ratedsalesmansince_97 I don't recall Super Neo Metal Sonic surviving a galaxy-level explosion that Mario survives, but hey, you do you
Dude it’s the Mario universe. Even if Jr died a single spell and he would just be back up in the next scene, and that’s assuming you can’t get past the ludicrous durability that the Mario universe possesses
Bowser won this fight literally as a skeleton
If it makes you feel better Infinite also canonically didn’t die. He just got hit by the big block he technically increased the force of with gravity manipulation and spent the battle rethinking his life choices
@AllenTheAnimator004 Galaxy level is nowhere near either metal sonic AP or Mario's durability they're both infinitely stronger than that💀
Metal would have taken the army much further he was eliminating all the major threats but he made one very fatal mistake
he put hands on JR and Bowser will be damned if anyone hurts his kid too bad eggman never had that much love for sage
What do you mean he never had that much love for sage? If he didn’t. Would eggman even keep her around? And would’t he not listen to her about the treat that was coming in sonic frontiers? Heck he trust her with his mech and everything. They literally said this in the episode. Where dose any of that mean he doesn’t love her? And don’t say that was a joke. Even if it was. It was a bad joke. Ngl.
@@AmsosorryscottyHe keeps Metal, Orbot, and Cubot around and he doesn’t exactly treat them with the upmost respect.
@Amsosorryscotty did Eggman ever get any power boost or go agro when sage was in danger? No
@@lightyoshiman Eggman isn't Bowser, who has shown messing with his kids is a death sentence
True, while eggman was starting to get that parental bond, bowser and jrs was stronger, if metal hadn’t hit jr when he protected bowser, bowser wouldn’t of used the grand star and since metal super form was unstable it caused the emeralds to leave him.
Who needs invincibility when you've got a family?
Didn't even use the koopalings XD
Let me remind you Sonic fans what a famous person said
“The person would win in a fight is the person the script writer wants to win! These are fictional characters now stop asking these boneheaded questions.”
@@Max-oi5ny That’s honestly fair, especially since that’s mostly what Mario is in a nutshell. I definitely think both fanbases need to hear this though. Sonic definitely first though.
This is the worst agreement ever.this is vs debating the ENTIRE reason we are here is to find out who wins a fight between 2 fictional characters.people love doing this and will happily get evidence for their side wining.Things like what your saying takes away all the fun of vs battles. Goku vs Superman said it best.
@@plantgang8738but he is right. In every franchise they make the hero just barely strong enough to win. When the villain is stronger, the hero also gets stronger and vice versa. You cant come up with a logical comparison since every characters power is inconsistent
To be fair, Death Battle's had a few where they obviously wanted one to win but couldn't ignore something the other guy had, Cable vs. Booster Gold specifically comes to mind lol
Apparently, Infinite didn't die.
My ass he didn’t die
@@Maximus-u4c Morø, the animator, confirmed that Infinite lived. However, he fled the battle because he lost the Phantom Ruby… y’know, since Infinite is nothing but the weakling he fears to be without it.
@genericusername3334 He didn't flee, he just laid there contemplating his life.
@@genericusername3334 Just shows how weak he XD
@@maleficking6556 Basically the spongebob meme of the guy in a full fucking body cast. That's what I am imagining for Infinite.
3:45 The look on that Goomba’s face. He was so scared and shocked knowing that laser was going to END THEM.😄
Luv the subtitles man
What? Where?
In the closed captions
Same here, first time I’ve seen a fight only video include subtitles and not just that, an official death batttle video in a while but there are some spelling errors here and there but I’m glad that it’s still there
I personally think that Super Neo Metal should have just won it for Eggman, but I don’t disagree with every other verdict Death Battle had. I just disagree with the grand stars or Kamek being enough to stop SUPER Neo Metal specifically. Bias aside though, this entire fight was absolute peak, and both Bowser and Eggman are easily gigachads of gaming villains.
Super Neo has the stipulation that his Super form is unstable. If the fight were more accurate he'd fluctuate between Super and basic Neo so would need to recharge back and forth (like the Super Mecha Sonic boss). Comparatively, Infinite would be the most valuable asset in terms of power and consistency as long as the Death Egg is around to max out his power.
@@maleficking6556 but King Boo countered Infinite way too hard. even if their reality manipulation are equal in terms of intensity, King BOO is immune to most ways you can manipulate reality. Gravity manipulation? King Boo floats anyway. physical objects? King Boo is a ghost and passes through everything you can throw. clones? King boo has multi-target attacks, and can clone himself too. Infinite could solo almost entire Koopa Army, but King Boo is immune to almost all physical attacks, and can create heavy weight metal balls or in this case, Twomps, above infinite to crush him.
@@wrigthtalekenavi2066 don't forget that he can seal you inside of paintings
@@wrigthtalekenavi2066 I mean here's something super simple, why not just....NOT send Infinite up against ghosts who can work around the Phantom Ruby? Sage is there, she can do the numbers and figure that out. Even then, if basic Metal Sonic can casually knock away King Boo's crown, what's stopping Infinite who stacks higher than Neo Metal?
Winner:Team Bowser
Team Bowser MVP:Bowser
Team Eggman MVP:Metal Sonic
4:18 Love how Eggman starts to run like he did in Sonic 2 and 3(and Knuckles) before their final boss fights
Poder del guión fue increíble acá xd
The fact that Metal gived much more fight to Bowser than Eggman🙏💀
I'm more of a Sonic fan, but i'm not surprised Eggman lost. Bowser knows actual stragegy and how to deal with his troops, While Eggman's only strategy is throwing everything he has at his opponent with no planning in hopes of overwhelming them.
+ eggman does not give an absolute heck about his army while you see Bowser’s army following him everywhere because he actually cares about them,he even protected them from the beam.
@julesw9476 Exactly, which is why he can coordinate well with them, while eggman just stands back and watches, hoping his army will do everything for him, he's so lazy
Metal Sonic carreando toda la partida:
His back gave out from carrying the team
Bowser turnin into his Fury form was absolutely out of this world
Poor Sage Bowser literally killed her father
And Neo Metal Sonic injured Bowser Junior. It comes full circle…kinda
Eh, they’re in the Mario universe. The only way for Sage to not find a way to revive Eggman by weeks end is intentionally not looking
@@SSKO2 Disproportionate retribution anyone?/j
Awesome Bowser VS Eggman Fight Video 😎💚❤️💛🖤🤍🖤❤️🧡❤️🖤🤍💛💚❤️💛🤍🖤🩵💛💙❤️🖤❤️🤍🖤
Bowser pull a vegeta when he saw jr got hurt
Just as said in TFS's DBZ Abridged: "My baby *BOYYY!!"*
@@Serious5GamingS5G Or as Vegeta said in the Vegeta vs. Zod episode of DBX: THAT'S! MY! SON! YOU! GOD! DAMN! BAS! TARD!
I'd imagine animating this is hell, anyways it is amazing, the animator really cooked 🔥
Subtitles are honestly really impressive in this, colored for each character and everything
Wait, why didn't eggman bring the Death Egg robots from Sonic Forces?? Those could be helpfull.
Regardless of what you might have to say about the outcome, surely we can all at least agree that the presentation was peak, yes?
Sonic and his friends must be SOOOOOO happy now that Eggman is gone for good.
I hope they make a sequel in which Eggman wins
@@miguelcastropulido283 I would love that, but they probably won’t unless someone commissions MORO to do so.
@@orion9630 Very true, but who knows, maybe in the future I'll make that video where Eggman wins
Idk about a sequel, an alternate senario where he wins would make more sense
If we just have to wait for DEATH BATTLE to make that sequel where Eggman wins
Magic VS Technology? Interesting
Honestly it makes sense. Besides, bowser easily comes back from the dead
Bowser jumping in front of his troops to tank the Death Egg’s shot has got to be one of the HARDEST moments in DB history.
0:59
You can see Metle Sonic in the shadows on the right, watching Bowser and waiting for his time to strike.
King Boo is the strongest here literally
Guys could y'all ignore the tier system for a bit, just enjoy the fight dudes
I don’t agree with the ending. I just believe Eggman’s feats scale higher than Bowser’s consistently. Don’t think that’s really cope as you could probably make a case for both sides. But the animation was great tho.
I think this is very accurate. Bowser has survived countless times being burned to death, and bowser has survived being sucked into a black hole. And not to mention Bowser has gotten bigger than average size before. Eggman was never gonna win!
Ok, but how the heck is this good though?
This war is very epic😮
Felt like neo-metal could've carried this whole joint single handedly. Eggman would've got cooked way earlier without Metal bruh😂
I like how the characters’s have their subtitles represent how active they are in the battle.
-Bowser, Neo Metal, and Infinite (Even though he doesn’t deserve it) have large subtitles showing that they’re in the frontlines doing the most work.
-Eggman has normal sized subtitles, for his more distance based combat.
-Sage has Smol subtitles for her more passive role in battle.
- They also have corresponding colors, with Bowser and Neo Metal having their colors change depending on what form they’re in.
After this, bowser could definitely overpower ganondorf, but that was before they did actual research. Glad my favorite fictional character won! I always knew he would before this one was even planned!
Infinite was violated.😢
My only salt with eggman in this fight was that they used the death egg robo instead of the egg Emperor
One of the best death battle episodes damn, i love this battle fr
Gonna be honest Give this Guy created for the caption 👍😃also I'm The Only Sonic fan that saw this coming and took the L. :(
my reaction to this death battle: yes! that's it! the final indisputable answer to the question of who would win in a fight between dr eggman and Bowser!!!!!!!... oh who am I kidding everyone's going to argue this forever
I definitely agree with Bowser winning
This so badass
I really liked this video, it was better than the video that scouthedog 1 animation made
sonic fans absolutely malding in the comments
I get it’s just natural for people who care about powerscaling to get mad and whiny, but like, damn. I feel like they did the Sonic characters justice here I don’t really see what there is to get mad about.
@@EnbyVess To me it just feels like they limited Eggman here, Like the Phantom Ruby has done a lot more but Infinite was crushed by a simple thwomp when he could contend with Sonic himself. Although i will admit the thwomp scene is iconic AF lol. But yeah i feel like they didn't give Eggman his all. But regardless the fight itself is FIRE.
@@TycitronYou gotta keep animation pacing in mind. It’s already four minutes, an extended King Boo vs Infinite segment would be cool (having Bowser Jr. use a Wonder Flower to counter the illusions could be neat too) but it miiight be a bit much to expect, especially because it’s 2D animation.
They said the Ruby wouldn’t be the deciding factor in the analysis, so I think giving it a moment to do some cool stuff and take out some of Bowser’s boss-level threats before being handled is alright. When you’re dealing with entire armies and arsenals, you can’t show everything to its full potential.
@@TycitronBare in mind this stuff cost money 4 minutes of work is already a lot so including everything would have been impossible plus from what I remember only moro animated this to as well
Nobody gonna talk about how the power of the Mario Superstars completely overwhelms that of the 7 Chaos Emeralds?
3:18 to 3:30
Metalix and metal madness...
Eggman vs Bowser:❌
Metal Sonic vs Bowser:✅
The video is a smig brighter but actually i prefer this good job on something you probably did on accident
Golden neo Sonic is something I never thought I see before in my life
All more of a reason why you should give the IDW Sonic comics a chance.
Metal sonic basically just carried the entire team
I love both mario and sonic, but tbh I didn't really think Bowser had the chance at first.
I'm a Sonic fan and I'm not crying over it like the majority
I'm crying cause Scratch and Grounder didn't appear lmao 😭😭🙏🙏🔥
Bro scratch and grounder was peak comedy back in the day I wanted them too bro
While i still see bowser winning i dont agree with all their reasoning.
For one, bowsers army is loyal, and his leadership superior, but the average robot in eggmans army is absolutely a magnitude of strenght above bowsers army.
I just do not see any thing below like, chain chomps, thwomps being able to survive the cannons, machineguns and laser guns found on average low grade eggman bots.
With things like boos and the magic wielders having the best luck in counter offensive
Bowser is a true king, he sacrified for his troops
If only metal Sonic's back didn't give out.
They forgot one thing eggman has. The Metal Virus💀
They talked about it in the video, please watch it.
It interresting that beside when he ordered his army to attack and throw the cardboard monster to matal, he never order his troop they just know when he need them and know what to do, you can see when super neo matal attack he block, mean he didn't expect any shield
They did infinite dirty. I get budget and time limitations, but he never showed off his full power. He could make clones that are equal to the original in power, imagine if he did that to bowsers troops. it's the perfect counter. At least he washed a large chunk of bowsers troops and restrained bowser himself.
In all honesty, Eggman's army would have taken down Bowser's. I mean Eggman's army did have the superior fire power.
To some degree. Remember, they are mostly meant to counter Sonic and have been bested by Big and Knuckles. Both of which are equal to Bowser's strength to some degree.
On the other hand, Bowser's forces are more diverse and adapatable. Even having some minions that can out tank Eggman's dps. Like Womps are straight up immune to everything except for Thwomps and their back. Or having a plethora of minions that are straight up trains and other vehicles.
Im not a fan of bowser vs Eggman or any Mario vs Sonic matchups (infact hate these with a passion) but at least the episode is goated
Quick - someone tag Jack Black and Jim Carrey!
AND YOU ONLY HAVE 456 SUBS?!
I think this would happen, and if kamek did something like fill the area with lava, it likely would've ended sooner, especially if the koopalings were there
No one else gonna talk about how bowser hit a black flash in the end?
I dunno, I like to think that this whole fight is just practice for when both mario and sonic pull up at their crib and that eggman and bowser are friends
Am i the only person who watched Eggman get punched n launched to the giant question block 15 times?
What is the song in this.
0:22 0:42 1:08 1:54 2:52 don’t mind me just marking my favorite moments from each characters
1:59 WAIT DID HE GET A REVIVE?!?!!
Yes, Jr. Revived him
Technically he did he got a free life from the black paint