haha dude you do a great job on these videos! I learned hard flips before frontside flips so I would always think hardflip then turn my body. the more you do them the easier they get to do more like a kickflip. also waiting till the board is more vertical before flicking makes it easier to get your foot out of the way
@@localjoe i usually have thought about a trick so much before trying it that when I try it i’ll usually know what i’m doing wrong but sometimes muscle memory just won’t allow you to change it.
Dylan, you have sick style and awesome fsflips!! do you kickflip 90 and spin the rest or do you harflip and body rotate? i also learned hardflips first, but never really mastered fsflips.. i would throw and hope.. any more tips lol? thanks
Joe dude !! the URRRGS of yours always remembers me that we need such persistance on this sport. I'm 42yo now and i never gave up !! keep going !! you rock ! thank you for mantaining the SKATE alive thru generations ....long live Skaters !!
I have the same problem with my front side flip but watching you break it down and work them out really inspired me! Keep it up man. Also Dylan Jaeb is my favorite skater!
When you're beginning to learn frontside flips, just roll straight then curve frontside right before you pop, and do a normal kickflip and you'll automatically end up doing a fs flip without much effort. You'll only need to transfer your weight to the other end of the board once you land. And then swing your shoulders for consistency. Once you have frontside flips down using the curving method, you'll automatically learn how to do them straight on over time.
I honestly subscribe because you didn’t make any excuses. You just said I need to get better and stronger and I love you got this bro. I’m learning right along with you🔥💯
You’re doing good. Just turn your shoulders as soon as you pop and follow through with your shoulders until you complete the 180. Don’t depend on the pivot for the rotation. Form the trick 180 before committing. Should help.
@@localjoe Another thing I realized yesterday is you have to turn your neck or your shoulders won’t be able to fully swing around. It’s something I learned about 180’s from Aaron Kyro a long time ago but forgot.
@@localjoe what he said^^ You gotta flick kinda down and backwards, this way the board can flip through your legs a little so the board can do the frontside flip motion. Once it flips and rotates correctly, focus on catching it with the front foot. The reason the trick wasn't working is because you're doing a slanted normal kickflip which just throws the board off course and prevents the fs rotation.
the main reason i found having the same issue that you had was because i was flicking down or sideways. try to flick up more and it will start doing the full rotation
I’ve only been able to do them switch.I stop rolling everytime I do a frontside flip normal stance. I recently learned how to frontside heel you have to keep your body very tight after flicking to get a nice one.
Hey, good video. You have the same tendency I had. You are very impatient in moving your back foot to the front. You don't let the board turn 180 and flip quiet. The magic hack is that you have to keep your back foot BACK while you flick your front foot out, doesn't matter the angle you flick, your brain knows you want to do fs 180. Do it flexing your knees well down and jump harder. Cheers.
Exactly! Think hardflip and the board will rotate a little more than 90 and that helps with landing it. But if you overdo it, you will do a muska flip haha
Wow,Yesterday norman woods uploaded a fs flip tutorial and now that? I'll work on those for sure! Also,kind of unrelated but usually when i do 360 flips the board is doing a full kickflip but only a 270 shove it and i'm landing with both feet on the nose,like a tre noseblunt. Do you have any tips to get that full rotation and also catch it correctlly? Thanks anyway man!
@@localjoe bro thank you so much,after reading your comment i checked a video of me doing a tre and you are 100% right. I'll try to work on it,thank you!!!
catch with your back foot . this will help rotation. your front foot will catch the board a little higher off the ground and you balance will end up leaning forward . Just like Dylan does it. And Renyolds.
I asked him about frontside flips at Pood. He said he also "waits" before the flick. He said he kinda delays the kick till his board gets more vertical. Like if standing on your tail is a 45 degree angle, he waits till its around 70 degrees or so. Not that he's actually thinking about the angle, but just to show how much he delays the flick
Yo if you come up with a workout routine for higher pop and losing weight let me know 😂 I have athletic legs but I can hardly pull em up to pop onto higher stuff. Even back when I was about 10 years younger trying frontside flips they looked the same as yours so you’re not alone.
I feel like Joel is the epitome of one of us. I am also an older dude who has skated for 20 years, I just feel like I never made that leap into ease of tricks. While other guys just float their front side flips, trey flips exc. I look like I’m using every muscle in my body to barely land a 360 flip. Not that skating is natural, but some people just have it I say.
Timing your flick and angle of the board when you flick is key. Looks like you need to delay your flick a bit and wait till the board is more vertical and in it's frontside motion before you flick. Good luck!
Also, I'm not a proponent for first learning flip tricks on banks, step-ups, pyramids etc. what that does is tweak the mechanics, pop, angle and timing you need to correctly learn flip tricks. "Flat ground is king!" -Koston
@@localjoe He did and I can't recall exactly where, but I'll never forget it. This was 10+ years ago. Think it was one of his old "How-to skateboarding: .." segments he did with Tony Hawk
not really haha you can learn certain principles but the weight of a skateboard is so different it doesn't carry over super well but like in the video you can see I'll test ideas out on the tramp but the idea is a completely different feeling on an actual skateboard
Stay in the back seat at all times even with pivot/ slide until you can catch and rotate the whole way which is flicking hard to do. Anyways sick tips!!
I don't have the trick down yet but for me getting the full rotation is not a problem. I feel like you really should aim to get the full 180. So don't try to pivot or at least try to get your shoulders full 180. I think then the pivot will come automatically if you're feet or the board don't make the full 180
Another good tip for you all, the front foot needs to be really inside de board, thanks to that the board will follow the rotation even better, and when you flick the movement is like in tennis, don't stop flick when you foot is out of the board, flick the furthest you can
i think part of the problem is not scooping the pop enough, it definitely helps to complete the rotation, instead of popping almost completely straight down.
You should focus more on the Catch +-90° and then push the rest of the rotation with the back foot rather than doing the opposite(90° and focusing on the front foot pivot) => pivot kind of happens naturally... the moment you focus on it you ll miss it 😜 at least that's how I see FS flips and I ve been struggling for years to decently master it 😀 A good practice for the trick is learning how to catch your kickflip and pushing it with the back foot...good luck 👍
Learn the hardflip first. Its mostly in the back foot. The hardflip leaves the body rotation out of the equation. Once you get that down, rotate your body with it (FS flip).
Try doing a hardflip and let your neck and shoulders follow your board with the rotation, also try to flick slightly later than you would for a normal kickflip
@@localjoe No... Tom Penny, literally got the best Frontside flips on the planet and there are no guides breakdowns on him I have watched you trying and trying and want you to get this, you look at Reynolds he tried to copy Penny way back in the day, skaters favourite skater video So it is all in the shoulders as soon as you pop turn your leading shoulder in your case right, that is it the golden secret, flush 180 no pivot or caught 90 and reverted, where your shoulders go the rest has to follow stick your thumb up as it opens the shoulders relaxed not tense, you do it on the trampoline, not on concrete, you end up with a balled fist and only going 90, Thumb down for backside closes the muscles Watch Penny's even at 45 yrs old in an es ad they are no different than 20years ago, I actually scrolled down to see if anyone had mentioned him, why has this guy got lost in being mentioned on the frontside flip props to the guy that did mention him, there's a reason we all flick through the nose and tail, and he is the O.G that sussed that out, I will sub if you land no pivot next video.. I know you will, literally your right shoulder
@@localjoe for skaters with less pop like you and me, spinning 90 and pivoting the rest is not only the best way to frontside flip, it’s the only way 😂 (unless you muska flip)
why you just look at the foots? 90%of the hack is he´s shooulders position! and the positioning of the legs! the rule is the board follow the shoulders! if you flip normally with the shoulders at 90 degrees you land a perfect 90 degrees rotation flip! to complete the 180 you must to catch this flip with the tail foot and just push foward a littlebit! if you catch with the front foot probably you go to break the board soon... the most important is 90 dregress perfect catch with the tail foot! the rest is training! and flik the flip more like a normal kikflip! straigth foward ! (no matter what you do if you flip whith the shoulders alredy pre rotated the board go to follow the exact same angle!)
@@localjoe i mean comparing to pros is unrealistic because thats their life , but you’re definitely like advance or something bro keep up the videos 🙏🏽
Learn hard flips first man. That’s the trick, let your front foot lead, when you catch the flip your front foot needs to be all the way around 180 degrees as well as your shoulders like a full front 180 not a late front 180. If you can hardflip though then just do a hard flip and allow your body to turn with the board.
I think you need a little bit of a front shuv push in the back foot to make the board spin full 180. Just pop it with you back ankle in front of you. Helps a lot 😉
you're going a little too slow! really wind those arms too, you had it down with the 180's but i know you're thinking about the flip more than anything else when you try to put it together. really wind those arms/shoulders and pop like you're going to 180 and get that quick flick in. when i learned them, i would aim to land my front foot on the nose and revert 30-45 degrees. once you get comfortable with the flip and rotation, you can literally do a FS kickflip, catch it at 90 degrees and your body motion will give you the other 90 degree. FS flips are my shit i used to do them down EVERYTHING!
Tip to help all tricks in the kindest way possible is to become lighter on your feet when I blew discs in my spine I went from 78kg to 86 kg from lack of activity once I could properly ride again my pop and nimbleness was greatly decreased once I got back down to 80kg I seen massive improvments in my skating, how I like to explain the difference is hold a 5kg weight and try do an Ollie now imagine that 5kg weight is attached to your body and how much harder it would be to do the trick 🙏 much respect but for me personally when I'm at my 78 kg weight is when I'm at my peak performance for skating everything becomes easier, everyone has there own weight ideals but deffs will help all your tricks
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haha dude you do a great job on these videos! I learned hard flips before frontside flips so I would always think hardflip then turn my body. the more you do them the easier they get to do more like a kickflip. also waiting till the board is more vertical before flicking makes it easier to get your foot out of the way
Yo I appreciate that man! I’m obsessed with technique do you feel like you break down the details of a trick like that or do you learn by feel mostly?
@@localjoe i usually have thought about a trick so much before trying it that when I try it i’ll usually know what i’m doing wrong but sometimes muscle memory just won’t allow you to change it.
@@notdylanjaeb You Prod and Shane are my go to's to analyze technique. Do you have a few go to pro's that you watch to break down technique?
dylannnnn !!!!
Dylan, you have sick style and awesome fsflips!! do you kickflip 90 and spin the rest or do you harflip and body rotate?
i also learned hardflips first, but never really mastered fsflips.. i would throw and hope.. any more tips lol? thanks
I used to screen record Dylan’s frontside flips and study them because mine were always “muska” 😂 hyped to say I finally fixed them last year
His technique is flawless on every trick I swear…
Damn cool to see you here,late front shove cooperation video on the way?🤔
I actually like the muska ones dude is a legend
same with almost all of his tricks xD
Yo same! Haha
Joe dude !! the URRRGS of yours always remembers me that we need such persistance on this sport.
I'm 42yo now and i never gave up !!
keep going !! you rock !
thank you for mantaining the SKATE alive thru generations ....long live Skaters !!
URRRGGG!! (thanks)
I have the same problem with my front side flip but watching you break it down and work them out really inspired me! Keep it up man. Also Dylan Jaeb is my favorite skater!
how to frontside flip... and how you can get so much closer to landing them... haha fs flip short coming soon?
@@localjoe Bwhahah!! If I can get them steezy enough I most definitely will man!
should do more breakdowns of dylan. the way he does tricks makes it look so easy it convinces me that i can do it
I know he's like a skateboarder's visual textbook
When you're beginning to learn frontside flips, just roll straight then curve frontside right before you pop, and do a normal kickflip and you'll automatically end up doing a fs flip without much effort. You'll only need to transfer your weight to the other end of the board once you land. And then swing your shoulders for consistency. Once you have frontside flips down using the curving method, you'll automatically learn how to do them straight on over time.
this is one of the first tricks I learned and told my bro i did a "hardflip body varial"
haha sometimes it's like that! Not for me but happy for you!
I honestly subscribe because you didn’t make any excuses. You just said I need to get better and stronger and I love you got this bro. I’m learning right along with you🔥💯
You’re doing good.
Just turn your shoulders as soon as you pop and follow through with your shoulders until you complete the 180.
Don’t depend on the pivot for the rotation. Form the trick 180 before committing. Should help.
Thanks my dude!
@@localjoe Another thing I realized yesterday is you have to turn your neck or your shoulders won’t be able to fully swing around.
It’s something I learned about 180’s from Aaron Kyro a long time ago but forgot.
You inspire me bro! I'm at a similar place in life. I enjoy watching you push yourself. Keep at it!
The issue is your fliping to the side to land 90 and pivot. You want to flick you foot behind you to where your planning to land.
This might actually be the key…so basically like a hardflip motion
I think your right! Thank you!
There are so many ways to fs flip homie
Do you feel like you kicking down with your front foot then? Great tip thanks
@@localjoe what he said^^ You gotta flick kinda down and backwards, this way the board can flip through your legs a little so the board can do the frontside flip motion. Once it flips and rotates correctly, focus on catching it with the front foot. The reason the trick wasn't working is because you're doing a slanted normal kickflip which just throws the board off course and prevents the fs rotation.
i fw the commentary as you’re trying the trick
one thing that i also learned from skateiq that changed frontside flips for me was popping it like a front shuv almost and that cjhanged everything
the main reason i found having the same issue that you had was because i was flicking down or sideways. try to flick up more and it will start doing the full rotation
I'll try it!
I’ve only been able to do them switch.I stop rolling everytime I do a frontside flip normal stance. I recently learned how to frontside heel you have to keep your body very tight after flicking to get a nice one.
Lovely attempts bro, you're so determined!! Keep it up bro
Thanks a ton!
Hey, good video. You have the same tendency I had. You are very impatient in moving your back foot to the front. You don't let the board turn 180 and flip quiet. The magic hack is that you have to keep your back foot BACK while you flick your front foot out, doesn't matter the angle you flick, your brain knows you want to do fs 180. Do it flexing your knees well down and jump harder. Cheers.
These definitely count man. This trick is extremely hard.. its more than impressive,l
thanks G!
Same issue as you until I started popping and flicking like a hardflip
Exactly! Think hardflip and the board will rotate a little more than 90 and that helps with landing it. But if you overdo it, you will do a muska flip haha
Wow,Yesterday norman woods uploaded a fs flip tutorial and now that? I'll work on those for sure!
Also,kind of unrelated but usually when i do 360 flips the board is doing a full kickflip but only a 270 shove it and i'm landing with both feet on the nose,like a tre noseblunt. Do you have any tips to get that full rotation and also catch it correctlly?
Thanks anyway man!
Try to keep your back shoulder in place when you jump. my guess is the back shoulder is shifting as you jump!
@@localjoe bro thank you so much,after reading your comment i checked a video of me doing a tre and you are 100% right. I'll try to work on it,thank you!!!
catch with your back foot . this will help rotation. your front foot will catch the board a little higher off the ground and you balance will end up leaning forward . Just like Dylan does it. And Renyolds.
Also easier to learn off a curb
Try drinking protein shakes after/during your session. You need to build muscle to be able to jump higher for the tricks.
You are getting pretty good man
Thanks man! I'm trying hard for sure!
Hi man, can you analize Jacopo Carozzi Kickflip? Thanks, You are doing a great job with your videos!
I asked him about frontside flips at Pood. He said he also "waits" before the flick. He said he kinda delays the kick till his board gets more vertical. Like if standing on your tail is a 45 degree angle, he waits till its around 70 degrees or so. Not that he's actually thinking about the angle, but just to show how much he delays the flick
ur amazing bro. keep it up.
awww thanks!
Good vid dude 👍
Thanks Scott!
Yo if you come up with a workout routine for higher pop and losing weight let me know 😂 I have athletic legs but I can hardly pull em up to pop onto higher stuff. Even back when I was about 10 years younger trying frontside flips they looked the same as yours so you’re not alone.
haha i have no answers just struggles lol
I feel like Joel is the epitome of one of us. I am also an older dude who has skated for 20 years, I just feel like I never made that leap into ease of tricks. While other guys just float their front side flips, trey flips exc. I look like I’m using every muscle in my body to barely land a 360 flip. Not that skating is natural, but some people just have it I say.
haha just here on planet average
Timing your flick and angle of the board when you flick is key. Looks like you need to delay your flick a bit and wait till the board is more vertical and in it's frontside motion before you flick. Good luck!
Also, I'm not a proponent for first learning flip tricks on banks, step-ups, pyramids etc. what that does is tweak the mechanics, pop, angle and timing you need to correctly learn flip tricks. "Flat ground is king!" -Koston
Koston said that? Do you know what interview it was?
@@localjoe He did and I can't recall exactly where, but I'll never forget it. This was 10+ years ago. Think it was one of his old "How-to skateboarding: .." segments he did with Tony Hawk
Andrew Reynolds have the best hack for frontside flip
the back foot in the corner?
@@localjoe yeah for me thats the best hack i try
When is this kid is gonna come out with a part? I've been told it's coming very soon for half a decade! Almost done waiting
It's out now on thrasher's TH-cam channel, It's called "Dylan Jaeb's "Hi" part".
@@ca_ja25 oh I watched it yesterday dude. So sick. Perfect timing after me bitching lol
Question,
Does trampoline skating help you with your regular skating?
not really haha you can learn certain principles but the weight of a skateboard is so different it doesn't carry over super well but like in the video you can see I'll test ideas out on the tramp but the idea is a completely different feeling on an actual skateboard
Bruh.! At 0:15 he’s at the city hall in Richmond Va.! Dylan hit the fs flip down the 10.!
Stay in the back seat at all times even with pivot/ slide until you can catch and rotate the whole way which is flicking hard to do. Anyways sick tips!!
I don't have the trick down yet but for me getting the full rotation is not a problem. I feel like you really should aim to get the full 180. So don't try to pivot or at least try to get your shoulders full 180. I think then the pivot will come automatically if you're feet or the board don't make the full 180
I'll try that!
Another good tip for you all, the front foot needs to be really inside de board, thanks to that the board will follow the rotation even better, and when you flick the movement is like in tennis, don't stop flick when you foot is out of the board, flick the furthest you can
i think part of the problem is not scooping the pop enough, it definitely helps to complete the rotation, instead of popping almost completely straight down.
Try doin the hardflip then frontside 180
That's what made me think to try it actually that hardflip flick works
Thx
i tried to do them today and i got the flip and rotation perfectly but my back foot just wouldn’t go with it
IT COUNTS!
haha thanks Cameron!
Try flicking your front foot backwards thats how I used to do it the last part of the kickflip you flick it behind you it helps turn yhe board around
Tried it on the trampoline and it works. Need to take to the concrete next
One have your shoulders open when you start the trick. Second after you flick switch your feet.
I'll try it!
hardflip next ?
I'm thinking about it!
Defo counts. Funny i basically learnt this today, and you know i counted my bad attempt.
Hell yeah!
You should focus more on the Catch +-90° and then push the rest of the rotation with the back foot rather than doing the opposite(90° and focusing on the front foot pivot) => pivot kind of happens naturally... the moment you focus on it you ll miss it 😜 at least that's how I see FS flips and I ve been struggling for years to decently master it 😀 A good practice for the trick is learning how to catch your kickflip and pushing it with the back foot...good luck 👍
Learn the hardflip first. Its mostly in the back foot. The hardflip leaves the body rotation out of the equation. Once you get that down, rotate your body with it (FS flip).
My legs are so skinny. I need to start some leg training.
You got it steve!
I can hardflip and bs flip can’t figure out why I can’t fs flip
Try doing a hardflip and let your neck and shoulders follow your board with the rotation, also try to flick slightly later than you would for a normal kickflip
Watch Andrew Reynolds has has the best frontside flip also Tom Penny has an amazing one.
Should I make an andrew reynolds video?
@@localjoe No... Tom Penny,
literally got the best Frontside flips on the planet and there are no guides breakdowns on him
I have watched you trying and trying and want you to get this, you look at Reynolds he tried to copy Penny way back in the day, skaters favourite skater video
So it is all in the shoulders as soon as you pop turn your leading shoulder in your case right, that is it the golden secret,
flush 180 no pivot or caught 90 and reverted, where your shoulders go the rest has to follow
stick your thumb up as it opens the shoulders relaxed not tense, you do it on the trampoline, not on concrete, you end up with a balled fist and only going 90,
Thumb down for backside closes the muscles
Watch Penny's even at 45 yrs old in an es ad they are no different than 20years ago,
I actually scrolled down to see if anyone had mentioned him, why has this guy got lost in being mentioned on the frontside flip
props to the guy that did mention him,
there's a reason we all flick through the nose and tail, and he is the O.G that sussed that out, I will sub if you land no pivot next video.. I know you will, literally your right shoulder
If you can flip it and land it 90, you pretty much have it. I think learning it fakie is easier.
I can do fakie already the regular gets me
Focus on landing with more weight on the nose so you pivot on 2 wheels rather than 4. Aside from that you’ve got it.
Yeah I'm gonna try and kickflip late pivot next time
@@localjoe for skaters with less pop like you and me, spinning 90 and pivoting the rest is not only the best way to frontside flip, it’s the only way 😂 (unless you muska flip)
Learn them out of a bank, gotta turn 180 man
i'll try that!
I only try them in games of skate. I think he might have the best style of any non pro skater
yeah confused about his board sponsor situation
Lol all you need is pop you’re beast at fs flip.
I’d say that was a make 👍
F/s flips elude me and have for years. Switch are easier for me and it’s so frustrating!!
I can totally see how switch would be easier
Try bending down for your pop with your back more straight the lean is going against your board movement
why you just look at the foots? 90%of the hack is he´s shooulders position! and the positioning of the legs! the rule is the board follow the shoulders! if you flip normally with the shoulders at 90 degrees you land a perfect 90 degrees rotation flip! to complete the 180 you must to catch this flip with the tail foot and just push foward a littlebit! if you catch with the front foot probably you go to break the board soon... the most important is 90 dregress perfect catch with the tail foot! the rest is training! and flik the flip more like a normal kikflip! straigth foward ! (no matter what you do if you flip whith the shoulders alredy pre rotated the board go to follow the exact same angle!)
bro i hope yk youre not average lmao most people cant even tre flip
it's all perception but I think i'm average
@@localjoe i mean comparing to pros is unrealistic because thats their life , but you’re definitely like advance or something bro keep up the videos 🙏🏽
Learn hard flips first man. That’s the trick, let your front foot lead, when you catch the flip your front foot needs to be all the way around 180 degrees as well as your shoulders like a full front 180 not a late front 180. If you can hardflip though then just do a hard flip and allow your body to turn with the board.
I'll try that!
I think you need a little bit of a front shuv push in the back foot to make the board spin full 180. Just pop it with you back ankle in front of you. Helps a lot 😉
Thanks for the tip!
You needa prewind
you're going a little too slow! really wind those arms too, you had it down with the 180's but i know you're thinking about the flip more than anything else when you try to put it together. really wind those arms/shoulders and pop like you're going to 180 and get that quick flick in. when i learned them, i would aim to land my front foot on the nose and revert 30-45 degrees. once you get comfortable with the flip and rotation, you can literally do a FS kickflip, catch it at 90 degrees and your body motion will give you the other 90 degree. FS flips are my shit i used to do them down EVERYTHING!
I realised that flicking a millisecond late can help preforming the trick way effortlessly
I'll try that thanks!
Doesn’t count
:( haha at least your honest
Tip to help all tricks in the kindest way possible is to become lighter on your feet when I blew discs in my spine I went from 78kg to 86 kg from lack of activity once I could properly ride again my pop and nimbleness was greatly decreased once I got back down to 80kg I seen massive improvments in my skating, how I like to explain the difference is hold a 5kg weight and try do an Ollie now imagine that 5kg weight is attached to your body and how much harder it would be to do the trick 🙏 much respect but for me personally when I'm at my 78 kg weight is when I'm at my peak performance for skating everything becomes easier, everyone has there own weight ideals but deffs will help all your tricks