I think that first property you zeroed in on was a rock quarry or a mine. Also having investigated properties in that Easter section of Ohio I learned that a lot of fracking is happening there. They don’t even have to be on the property. This would affect the most important resource water. Google earth useful but only in concert with ground based information and data/news.
Most of what you circled at first... are farm fields and agriculture. You would not believe the deals and dealing on food we get in this area vs everywhere else, quality and quantity. Also about the circled area, its flat, easier to build on and work, up north near Bowling Green is the Old Black Swamp, literally some of the best soil in North America for farming. Certain areas also have much better water than others, same with hospital care, same with shopping, internet, jobs in general.
I'm near Bellefontaine ohio and hot 2.5 acres and a decent house for 109k. There's a lot of agriculture around here and prices are cheap in comparison to columbus or Cleveland
I live in Northeast Ohio and I am trying to get out of here and get to Missouri, this area is not great, the big cities by me (Youngstown, Akron, Cleveland) are shitholes and I just don't meet a lot of like minded people around
@craciunator99, Missouri here. The Northern part of the state vs. the Southern are very different regarding growing zones, water, soil quality, population/sq. mi., etc… . Acreage can be relatively inexpensive compared to other states. Obviously, follow Curtis’s example by drawing that 100 mi. circle around the major metro-areas of St. Louis, Kansas City, and about 50 mi. circles around Columbia, Jefferson City, and Springfield. Stay away from the more populated ends of Lake of the Ozarks and the major resort towns.-
40 years ago the camping and boating was great at Senecaville and Salt Fork lakes around Coshocton. We'd drive down from Canton but I haven't been in the area in many decades.
Appalachian Ohio is perfect for homesteading. The culture very much embraces it, growing up things like gardening, hunting, raising livestock are normal for us. The perfect part is everyone overlooks Ohio thinkin it’s flat and overcrowded yet our southeastern corner is essentially WV or Kentucky.
Its interesting how ive come to the same conclusion or deduction of perfect homestead properties as you but your tool is far greater, i have to use 3 different apps if i want more view into landscape, topography, comparative sea levels, etc. Nice video
I’m in a suburb of Twin Cities and I’d love to be in the country with more land. All our family is within a half hour of us and I don’t want to move away from our kids and grandkids.
@@LittleHomesteadOnHinerPond Nice. I got family in the Hugo area so Im hoping wherever he says is within an hour... I have a feeling he's going to say Grand Rapids area & North Shore, lol, or way the heck north
There are a few pockets of AMAZING places in NE Ohio, places like Middlefield, Orwell, Garrettsville, at least in terms of farm land, Amish, and like minded population. Besides that NE Ohio pretty much sucks for living.
My first stop in my escape from NY. Politics rapidly changing Ohio if people don’t wake up. The southeastern corner still has my attention. Where do you think you would go?
While you are on this topic, I found a great place in az … where I’ve been living for 40 years… area called Valle or Grand Canyon junction. They are working w the county to make the codes more off grid friendly and there is an emerging community organization… they want to start doing workshops… it’s like that community you could live similarly to the cities, where you own your own property, but can trade and share with your neighbors vs the commune style that often falls apart… I know a group that has had nothing but problems for the last 15 years and has been taken over by a tyrant .., luckily they refused me back in 2020. But, I now have the opportunity to homestead now.
And the Grand Canyon junction area gets snow with mild winters… there is a certain type of tree that grows native that offers sellable and high priced fruit, so I’m planning an orchard there… it also gets 20” of rain per year, summers mostly… compared to most of the rest of the state that gets 10 or less… but also a lot of snow to collect runoff from… so first I gotta get that figured out.
to be clear, I have not been living in Grand Canyon junction, but grew up in flagstaff near there and down in Phoenix. I meant I’ve been in az for 40 years.
Weird, I live in Ohio, and I just subscribed to this channel a few days ago. I'm from the northeastern part of the state, and I definitely wouldn't recommend prepping here. There's definitely not enough space. Youngstown is just one of many trashy cities. I know there is a lot of good land in Ohio, but it's not what I live around.
Thosr dark areas (in Eastern Ohio) you're referring to are rural but much of that is State and National Forests...there's plenty of rural areas around Ohio outside of the large and medium metro areas.
Personally, from a survival aspect, I find every state East of the Mississippi to be too populated. Single digit population/sq. mi. is optimal, under 20 is tolerable, over 30 gets really iffy. See also: location of military bases and nuclear power plants (know prevailing wind directions relative to property location), major dams/reservoirs, traditional recreational tourist spots. Each state also has a minimum acreage requirement for free (Conservation based) resident-owner hunting permits.
I agree, but there are pockets everywhere. What it most likely comes down to is a high risk of experiencing some kind of violence. I'd rather avoid it all together and it's why I'm in the mountains of BC.
Yes, I’m from Ohio. Unfairly marooned in NY for most of my life, trying to get back. When I was young people would ask me, where are you from?, and I always said Ohio. They meant what foreign country but to them Ohio would have been a foreign country. Hoping.
When you get to Maine, please keep this in mind. Looking at the map you won’t see a lot of concrete. The largest city is Portland and only has 60-70k people. But I wouldn’t live within 75 miles of there because of the culture of the entire southern part of the state. I wouldn’t even consider anything south of Waterville/Augusta. Same thing with ‘Downeast’- nothing near or west of Barharbor/Ellsworth all the way down the Midcoast. It’s nothing but tourists, rich people, and environment-nazis. From what I can tell, Washington, Piscatiquis, and Aroostook counties are safe and parts of Waldo, upper Penobscot, upper Hancock, and upper Oxford counties too. HOWEVER, Aroostook county ‘The County’ is the breadbasket of the state, but really only in the St John river valley on the New Brunswick border. You’ll also notice the top west 3rd of the state is desolate. I’m not sure exactly who owns it but there is a A of land locked up in conservation trusts. A lot of it is owned by logging companies. Also there are pros and cons to living in an unorganized township vs a governed town. Yes, property taxes are much lower and building codes can be more lax in a UT but you are under the jurisdiction of LURC (state wide land use governing body). For example: I know of a guy who was trying to open an auto wrecking yard in the very rural UT of Prentiss. Well some idiot squawked to the county and gave him hell and the county tried to get him in trouble by reversing his permit. Thankfully the next door Town of Springfield (local town gov.) was happy to have a new business come in. Maine also has a ‘homestead’ tax credit that will reduce your assessed property value by up to $20k(?) just for living there. As well as a tree growth tax credit- if you have 10+ undeveloped acres you can have any forester write up a management plan that states what will be done to promote healthy forests. This gives a SERIOUS discount on property taxes. Typically this is done by a logging company with an in house forester, but you can have an independent come in and make it part of your property design. I think the only stipulation is that there must be a commercial forest product derived from the land, specifically “logs, pulpwood, veneer, bolt wood, wood chips, stud wood, poles, pilings, biomass, fuel wood, Christmas trees, maple syrup, nursery products used for ornamental purposes, wreaths, bough material, or cones or other seed products” according to the law itself.
I think that first property you zeroed in on was a rock quarry or a mine. Also having investigated properties in that Easter section of Ohio I learned that a lot of fracking is happening there. They don’t even have to be on the property. This would affect the most important resource water. Google earth useful but only in concert with ground based information and data/news.
Most of what you circled at first... are farm fields and agriculture. You would not believe the deals and dealing on food we get in this area vs everywhere else, quality and quantity. Also about the circled area, its flat, easier to build on and work, up north near Bowling Green is the Old Black Swamp, literally some of the best soil in North America for farming. Certain areas also have much better water than others, same with hospital care, same with shopping, internet, jobs in general.
I'm near Bellefontaine ohio and hot 2.5 acres and a decent house for 109k. There's a lot of agriculture around here and prices are cheap in comparison to columbus or Cleveland
True
I live in Northeast Ohio and I am trying to get out of here and get to Missouri, this area is not great, the big cities by me (Youngstown, Akron, Cleveland) are shitholes and I just don't meet a lot of like minded people around
Yeah I live just outside of Alliance, such a corrupt town!
Agree. Absolute shitholes & quality of people get worse and worse
Akron… I always associate this with the ex Rolling Acres Mall. I would never live in Ohio 👍
@craciunator99, Missouri here. The Northern part of the state vs. the Southern are very different regarding growing zones, water, soil quality, population/sq. mi., etc… . Acreage can be relatively inexpensive compared to other states.
Obviously, follow Curtis’s example by drawing that 100 mi. circle around the major metro-areas of St. Louis, Kansas City, and about 50 mi. circles around Columbia, Jefferson City, and Springfield. Stay away from the more populated ends of Lake of the Ozarks and the major resort towns.-
Looking forward to seeing your thoughts on Pennsylvania
Are you forgetting about what happened in East Palestine, Ohio? Don't go anywhere near there.
The waterways in EP flows in a totally different direction & dumps in the Ohio. Cambridge is over 2 hours/102 miles south & west.
WERE can i find these listed properties at ?
This is the best spot: freedomfarmers.com/sp/homestead-accelerator/
My family is from Cambridge. My grandpa worked at the glasshouse/pottery in Cambridge.
HI WERE DO I FIND THE HOMESTEAD ACCELERATOR AT PLEASE ???
40 years ago the camping and boating was great at Senecaville and Salt Fork lakes around Coshocton. We'd drive down from Canton but I haven't been in the area in many decades.
Appalachian Ohio is perfect for homesteading. The culture very much embraces it, growing up things like gardening, hunting, raising livestock are normal for us.
The perfect part is everyone overlooks Ohio thinkin it’s flat and overcrowded yet our southeastern corner is essentially WV or Kentucky.
Its interesting how ive come to the same conclusion or deduction of perfect homestead properties as you but your tool is far greater, i have to use 3 different apps if i want more view into landscape, topography, comparative sea levels, etc. Nice video
Please do Minnesota next!
YES!!
I hope he links every state in the show notes when he's all done with this series!
What part you in? Im waiting as well. Moving next year from Canada
I’m in a suburb of Twin Cities and I’d love to be in the country with more land. All our family is within a half hour of us and I don’t want to move away from our kids and grandkids.
@@LittleHomesteadOnHinerPond Nice. I got family in the Hugo area so Im hoping wherever he says is within an hour... I have a feeling he's going to say Grand Rapids area & North Shore, lol, or way the heck north
@@spyxplorer I have family in Hugo, too!
I do think southeast Ohio has big potential. The rural parts off of Athens
Don’t like the secret 🤫 out lol my farm just outside of Athens
I thank you for reviewing each state !
There are a few pockets of AMAZING places in NE Ohio, places like Middlefield, Orwell, Garrettsville, at least in terms of farm land, Amish, and like minded population. Besides that NE Ohio pretty much sucks for living.
I so agree! Love Nelson's Ledges!
Yep. I’m right north of those spots. Besides walleye fishing it’s pretty rough
@@pqtpat7734 I'm from Mn, Walleye is my favorite!!!
How do you find out what isn't Crown Land? Or Is Crown Land?
In the US it's federal or state land.
Those areas you said were fine south east of columbus like Ashville you can't touch a house on a quarter acre for less than 250k
Pennsylvania?
We're doing all the states.
Those square blocks of green land are 1 square mile or 640 acres
Ohio is packed. Tons of taxes and lack of freedom. I’m trying to get out. Seems more unsafe by the year
My first stop in my escape from NY. Politics rapidly changing Ohio if people don’t wake up. The southeastern corner still has my attention. Where do you think you would go?
While you are on this topic, I found a great place in az … where I’ve been living for 40 years… area called Valle or Grand Canyon junction. They are working w the county to make the codes more off grid friendly and there is an emerging community organization… they want to start doing workshops… it’s like that community you could live similarly to the cities, where you own your own property, but can trade and share with your neighbors vs the commune style that often falls apart… I know a group that has had nothing but problems for the last 15 years and has been taken over by a tyrant .., luckily they refused me back in 2020. But, I now have the opportunity to homestead now.
And the Grand Canyon junction area gets snow with mild winters… there is a certain type of tree that grows native that offers sellable and high priced fruit, so I’m planning an orchard there… it also gets 20” of rain per year, summers mostly… compared to most of the rest of the state that gets 10 or less… but also a lot of snow to collect runoff from… so first I gotta get that figured out.
to be clear, I have not been living in Grand Canyon junction, but grew up in flagstaff near there and down in Phoenix. I meant I’ve been in az for 40 years.
Weird, I live in Ohio, and I just subscribed to this channel a few days ago. I'm from the northeastern part of the state, and I definitely wouldn't recommend prepping here. There's definitely not enough space. Youngstown is just one of many trashy cities. I know there is a lot of good land in Ohio, but it's not what I live around.
Youngstown suffered as part of the rust belt. Steel industry is gone along with manufacturing.
Just bought 3 acres last year, little by little trying to turn it into a homestead.
Thosr dark areas (in Eastern Ohio) you're referring to are rural but much of that is State and National Forests...there's plenty of rural areas around Ohio outside of the large and medium metro areas.
Do Missouri and Oklahoma, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!
You nixed the whole area where I, my family and my finance’s family live 😂 and I can’t leave this area until my kids are grown. 😅😂
These are great ideas for videos 😮
get well soon! 🤧
Personally, from a survival aspect, I find every state East of the Mississippi to be too populated. Single digit population/sq. mi. is optimal, under 20 is tolerable, over 30 gets really iffy. See also: location of military bases and nuclear power plants (know prevailing wind directions relative to property location), major dams/reservoirs, traditional recreational tourist spots. Each state also has a minimum acreage requirement for free (Conservation based) resident-owner hunting permits.
I agree, but there are pockets everywhere. What it most likely comes down to is a high risk of experiencing some kind of violence. I'd rather avoid it all together and it's why I'm in the mountains of BC.
Everyone has family from Ohio!
Yes, I’m from Ohio. Unfairly marooned in NY for most of my life, trying to get back. When I was young people would ask me, where are you from?, and I always said Ohio. They meant what foreign country but to them Ohio would have been a foreign country. Hoping.
Missouri and Oklahoma next please 🙏
Do Tennessee and Alabama! 🙏🏽
Stay away from Piketon, trust me.
When you get to Maine, please keep this in mind. Looking at the map you won’t see a lot of concrete. The largest city is Portland and only has 60-70k people. But I wouldn’t live within 75 miles of there because of the culture of the entire southern part of the state. I wouldn’t even consider anything south of Waterville/Augusta. Same thing with ‘Downeast’- nothing near or west of Barharbor/Ellsworth all the way down the Midcoast. It’s nothing but tourists, rich people, and environment-nazis. From what I can tell, Washington, Piscatiquis, and Aroostook counties are safe and parts of Waldo, upper Penobscot, upper Hancock, and upper Oxford counties too. HOWEVER, Aroostook county ‘The County’ is the breadbasket of the state, but really only in the St John river valley on the New Brunswick border.
You’ll also notice the top west 3rd of the state is desolate. I’m not sure exactly who owns it but there is a A of land locked up in conservation trusts. A lot of it is owned by logging companies. Also there are pros and cons to living in an unorganized township vs a governed town. Yes, property taxes are much lower and building codes can be more lax in a UT but you are under the jurisdiction of LURC (state wide land use governing body). For example: I know of a guy who was trying to open an auto wrecking yard in the very rural UT of Prentiss. Well some idiot squawked to the county and gave him hell and the county tried to get him in trouble by reversing his permit. Thankfully the next door Town of Springfield (local town gov.) was happy to have a new business come in.
Maine also has a ‘homestead’ tax credit that will reduce your assessed property value by up to $20k(?) just for living there.
As well as a tree growth tax credit- if you have 10+ undeveloped acres you can have any forester write up a management plan that states what will be done to promote healthy forests. This gives a SERIOUS discount on property taxes. Typically this is done by a logging company with an in house forester, but you can have an independent come in and make it part of your property design. I think the only stipulation is that there must be a commercial forest product derived from the land, specifically “logs, pulpwood, veneer, bolt wood, wood chips, stud wood, poles, pilings, biomass, fuel wood, Christmas trees, maple syrup, nursery products used for ornamental purposes, wreaths, bough material, or cones or other seed products” according to the law itself.
Michigan
Texas next, please!
Your thinking is flawed, like most developers, eventually, people look for open space, not gravitate toward-it. Which is why it needs protections.
Just need north Carolina now. 🤣
All that you circled at first is the best area of Ohio so you started off completely wrong
Привет, Америка!
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Any land not above 5,000 is going to be in serious trouble in about 15 years
You think the ocean will rise a few thousand feet in 15 years?
@@MSB1080 crazy..eh?