The Difference Between GOOD and BAD Top Laners - League of Legends
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- The Difference Between GOOD and BAD Top Laners in League of Legends
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I just run it down every game and win by sheer willpower.
Ahhh yes the "trying to crash the wave into diving the enemy under tower 24/7" strat
A fellow sion main
Respect
Same, as a darius main, i all in and somehow win
carried
I'm a simple toplaner, when i go in, i go in with everything i got, backing off means you never wanted to win in the first place. This tactic has mixed results but is extremely fun.
kled would like to: know your location
@@Joker-hv6du Jokes on you, i'm a filthy kled main.
@@bluntlyhonest6803 you must love torture
@@drage7082 i finished dark souls 3 sl1 so i guess that qualifies.
@@bluntlyhonest6803 what i meant is you main the buggiest aswell as the worst champ in the game
glad you covered trundle top because he is such a good guy and deserves more viewers
lol thank u
agree, love watching TrundleTop playing. He has great taste for music, too.
@@riverfu889 🥺😿 ayy lol
I disagree I think he is very stinky
@@ave204 agree
I just played a game like the first bit less than an hour ago. I was playing Tahm Kench against Darius. He played very passively and let me cs almost unhindered because I kept poking him with my Q, rather than whacking me and bullying me like Darius does so well. Then he started hiding under tower and backed off so far I could dive past the tower and kill him. I don't know the matchup much nor am I all that good but I learned within a minute I could bully this guy relentlessly.
@@regalstone3007 nah I'm in NA
Tahm kench is a bad matchup for darius, but in the early game Darius should fight you and not play passively because you will become unkillable if he does not contest lane.
Illaoi main here, just wanted to stress how usefull but insanely hard it is to pull off the "cc dodging ult". But thanks to that you can "dodge" Morde ult, which is normally an absolute counter (your tentacles don't follow you in his realm).
Does it completely cancel his R or does he have it again after?
@@nicolasr.r.s.9630 He loses the cooldown ^^
@@nicolasr.r.s.9630 this is featured in this video (where you can see that it enters in cooldown by looking at the top right corner) th-cam.com/video/n5u8T3LI4HA/w-d-xo.html
Warwick can do that too , using his Hold Q and R , its really funny
mord vs illaoi is decided by who ults first
from a urgot player in vietnamese:you should alway start E and wait to chese in the bush(except for some matchup),urgot level 1 could tank the 3 ranged minion and outtrade people,even get a kill
also,you should learn how to toggle W post level 9, E plash through wall, snipe ult and buffer cc, it's very important
Is very simple even without the cheese, I mostly win lane. Even if i lose early to darius of something the ukt after 6 and perma w after 9 ez win
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0:32 u changed summoners pantheon shows tp and u say ignite and urgot has tp and it shows ignite
6:45 ok but the Xin is doing the NA classic
Haven't caught McBaze streaming for a couple weeks now. Man I miss hearing all the cursing but this video at least makes me confident that my boy McBaze is doing well.
Take Singed, feed enemy in early, try to proxy ( remember You are iron and u don’t know how to do it well), go around the lines and gank with your Singed 0/10, flip enemies, steal experience and cs ( u can, u are poisoned…), be annoying with enemies all time and so u win all game. Easy
I think it would help a lot if you made a tierlist or list in general with the strongest lvl 1 toplaners. Its pretty difficult to asess champ strenght imo.
That doesn’t work cause they all have hard counters. Renekton as an example has always been a king of top against the general top lane picks but just crumbles to a random Quinn pick if the Quinn isn’t bad/dumb.
@@13YoJest13 bad example , renekton was good yes , but he was never a level 1 champ.
the guys asked for a toplaners lvl 1 tier list , that would make sense , but its hard to keep it updated every patch again if something changes
back to renekton , he has one of the strongest lvl 2-3 in the game sure ,and quin can be a hardcounter on laning phase in general , but ye renekton lvl 1 is super bad and looses to a lot
@@riano3620 use whatever example you want then. They all have at least 1 extreme counter matchup and that's why a list like this wouldn't be viable.
This is a common pitfall for noobs and shitters. The strengths of a champ change constantly based on what the meta reflects and how RIOT changes runes regularly.
Learn maybe 2 very different champions for your lane and determine what YOUR strengths are and what you can do to improve or push a MU into your favor. Don't sit around begging for someone to tell you what's top tier because every champ can be countered or simply ignored.
just no, you just know the average damage of your champ and how much it cant take, knowing about low cd is important jax lv 1 is strong because that lv relies on autos but if you all in a champion with less cd than that he will die especially if his e only got him one or two autos, just think about cd, dps, shield, and buffs of passives and runes with that you can figure out every lv 1 in the game since is heavily a stat check fight
IN EUW Gold elo have already this game knowledge , what make the difference is the JG diff or a good TP/Roam to one of the toplaner...
Hey Skillcapped, I think you got 0:30 wrong, Pantheon is the one with Ignite, just a small mistake :)
Other than that, great video! Keep up the good work
No he messed up the edit of the summoner spells, pantheon does have the ignite but he showed it wrong because you can see in the bottom left on the HUD urgot has tp
@@Gladwin777 that’s exactly what OP said.
7:55-8:02 Just a note, this applies to almost every champion, not just Urgot.
is there a general rule for what abilites are and are not interpted by flash? like are dashes like ornn e interupted? what about chaneled abilities like his w?
@@crestfallensunbro6001 Don’t know about that, but I use *ability* then flash mid cast for almost everything and it works. I suggest you try to do it with everything and find out yourself, but I’m pretty sure it works with most abilities if not all. I know it doesn’t work with blinks but that’s self explanatory. You can also do it with abilities that are not even a dash, like Yasuo q, Ezreal q, Annie w etc.
@@crestfallensunbro6001 you have to test one by one in practice mode. Some work with flash and some doesn't, there's no gereral rule.
doesnt work with point and click habilities, same as autoattacks, you want to point and click/AA then flash, for example
@@Oriol_jesusdnazarekt so it does work?
As a TOP LANE MAIN for a Decade,
I agree with all this ❤️🔥.
We dont care kid
@@qoooiiwjeie Why reply if you didnt care? KID
@@qoooiiwjeie bro chill
6:07 that didn't crash . It's that awkward situation in which u can't cheater because u have to collect the xp of the fourth wave so yeah , recalling isn't an option because the wave dosn't come back to him rofl , camille easily freezes but xin inted it by contesting that scutler . i'm 100% sure tf blade teleported right after recalling cause the wave got frozen
I dont like playing against illaoi, shes definitely beatable by dodging her e and destroying her tentacles at certain times but when i found out sett ult didnt move her as well during her ult i was kinda sad but it makes complete sense, just been playing around it since xd
I used to love playing Illaoi, but now I hate it since many junglers keep pushing the wave instead of letting it come into the tentacle-thunderdome where no enemy champ leaves alive. Of course they had their chat muted and ignored pleads of "solo top", "DO NOT HELP TOP, I GOT THIS".
I wouldnt say a good and bad difference is knowing the exact strength in 1v1 fights. Its knowledge that can help over time but not needed. Just dont get into a risky situations. if the fight would leave you with 25health, dont risk it.
This videos are the best, I have improved a lot with these videos, I'm wondering if you guys have any video is explaining what a "win condition" is. I heard a lol pros saying "it's our win condition". So what is a win call condition and how do I spot it? If you don't have a video like that you M8 consider doing one it's an really interesting topic.
Keep the good work!
Win condition is the condition you need to meet in order to win. For example, let's say you have a yi and a jinx in your team, and you are playing twisted fate against something like syndra. Your win condition are those two champs, so you focus your resources as a midlaner to get them ahead as, if syndra knows what she is doing, you should not be able to out-trade her. This is the basic principle behind win conditions, understanding what's the easiest and more secure way of winning the game by knowing your champions
@@elitedes5775 yeah great explanation! I more or less get that, but maybe there's some general idea that can apply to each case. I know it is relatively simple concept but it also is a world or choices. In your example Yi and Jynx should have prio but what's the core of that decision? Is because they are late hyper carries? What should I do if Jynx for example is having a bad day and she's 0/5 how I determine what is the win condition? Is giving lane priority the only win condition? Idk if I'm overthinking here or really is a deep topic haha but is fun talking about it. It's a start 🙂. Thanks for your reply btw
Any condition that leads to your team winning. Baron, Elder, Dragon Soul, your feed top laner split pushing would be the main ones.
@@smsanta well, it depends. If your jinx is going 0/5 and you haven't been able to help before that you should focus your resources in the person or objective that you belie e will have you get ahead. Lets ad a toplane matchup to my example, your toplane is playing fiora and the enemy is playing something like orn. Fiora should be the winning side on this matchup so, as you most likely will have lane prio in top, ping your jungler to secure objectives like herald by grouping on top and killing on or going mid and getting syndra. Now you can focus your gold on getting fiora and yi fed with toplane plates and turrets, while also trying to grab whatever you can for yourself.
However, the problem comes when you yourself are not a champ than can carry, and none of your teammates is winning lane or following your engages. That's why people tend to pick champs like yasuo or kata, because they know that if things get bad, they still have the option to 1vs9 if they are good enough and not in a counter matchup.
In regards to why yi and jinx should be priority, is exactly why you said so. If the enemy team doesn't have anything to counter them, such as malzahar (kinda counters yi) or rammus, they will get to late game and reck havoc amongst the other team. The fact that these champs tend to strugle early on is why they are balanced, as if they are not able to get to their respective spyke early enough it becomes a losing battle for them.
To conclude, the most important idea is to do what you think will help you win the match, even if you later discover you are wrong. By doing this and then thinking about what that decision led to you can learn what to do in the future. You may group to try and win a 5vs5 before drake spawns, but maybe the best decision was to push a lane and get into the fight with tp, or just keep splitpushing. Review the match later if you have time and look for what actions you could have taken to win earlier or just simply win.
I don't understand how high elo players roam after crashing a wave. If I do that, I end up losing more farm than the roam was worth.
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I just recently hit Plat playing top with pretty much full time Illaoi (got Skill Capped subscription too by the way).
I also think that Urgot made a second mistake in that first clip. He put himself into a slow push situation heading to Pantheon.
So if I am unsure about a match up I, admittedly, will give more respect then is probably due, but what I'll look to do (especially if they have Ignite) is play patient on the wave and even choose to miss several minions within the first wave (not missing xp) just to ensure that it freezes at my tower.
I already do not understand the match up; the last thing I want to do is have the long lane to run back to tower during a jungle gank with an opponent rocking Ignite.
So in this case, as Urgot, if I REALLY wasn't sure about the outcome of early aggression, I would have held off on hitting the wave and letting it push to me as it was obvious the Pantheon was not respecting wave management.
As it stands in that clip the Pantheon now has a free slow push towards him and if he just sits there and waits Urgot is free game once the wave comes back to Pantheon's side of the map.
I really like illaoi and played her quite a while. But she's one of the worst champs in the game lol
@@rubke2 this man watches Skill Capped lol
@@DanielPerez-xo1tj they are right lol. She's countered too hard by a little mobility, and that is meta.
You can't freeze with urgot for long because of his passive unless you have a very good control of your damage and positioning when autoing, and that guys clearly doesn't know about it. Anyway, as urgot is a range champ and pantheon is a squeezy champ, the best option is slow push while lowering him and dive him with jungler. As he has no TP and pantheon is a snowballing champion who builds lethality (useless against urgot), he can't play the game anymore
Sometimes hitting the wave is better, to ensure that the enemy doesent Get a cheater recall or roam. So if you play overly passive, he will crash 3rd wave which means his wave is most likely timed with jng, and that is bad, unless you arr playing weakside.
i love how you never mentioned how to identify a champions power spikes or how to find information regarding it.
High elo toplaners: Know the result of a trade, before doing it (unless huge outplay)
Low elo toplaners: "I'm Karthus, I have more range. Let's all in this Olaf at level 2"
As a panth top main you got to know your weakness and respect champs that have strong lv 1
your explanation about the urgot E flash buffer and those little things about champions is so true. As a gold player who played alot of shen you can’t even begin to imagine my pain when i see a diamond+ player flash and THEN E, instead of E flashing, it hurts my soul
Several months ago, i had horrible match. Everyone curse and flame me. But one off my teammate sent me this channel.
Not suprisingly, curses didn't help me, but that guy who sent me this channel helped me a lot. Tnx for videos
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I usually go hull breaker trynda id i loose lane. Then i will perma shove the lane usingmy ult to get the towers. I swear this works so well
what this video shows me is how ill junglers are especially for scuttle crab :)
It apears to me that toplane is already over in the championselect, just pick someone who has the strongest level 1 , slowpush do an cheater recall and freeze the wave right if u get back to lane. But how do you counter this??
THOSE 1ST 30 SECONDS LITERALLY CREATED A NEE ANXIETY INSIDE ME
Nice video thanks guys!
I play Trydamere with Lethal Tempo and E first and 100% of my early lvl1 trades, i always win. They can't outtrade agaisnt my lethal attack speed so they just mentally back off or risk their lvl1 game with flash hoping they could survive.
If they do indeed flash and dies, then they'll lose it completely.
Clean guide. Better run it down in order to win tho
why does xin go for skuttle when the xp isn't worth it? he could go for krugs and get level 4 couldn't he?
the game is from season 11. The first skuttle has around 700 max hp now
I believe you swapped urgot and pantheon summs at 0:30
@Zeka Nova no one cares
Finally a top lane guide lol
Also with jax, try to trade in ur enemy's minions, since e deals damage based on aa received from any entity
8:37 Don't worry no one saw that point blank E miss ;-)
6:45 That is a clean macro from Anivia
I’m trying to learn Jax, can someone inform me why you wouldn’t want to always go all in since his passive rewards you for sticking to an enemy with more attack speed?
I'm abusing lethal tempo nocturne top, I know he is strong on level one and level three, I get almost always first blood because people don't respect my attack speed when they pop my shield and my Walkspeed after I q them, they don't think, "oh well I'm half health and nocturne based, I'll play safe" like no one, I almost every time get level 6 kill because of them not respecting my all powers spikes and at minute 15 I'm 4/1/0 or something like this, I'm rocking exhaust instead of ignite because I can pop it if I'm loosing level one fight and turn the tide and get easy money
Solo lane nocturne is terrifying, not only for the dualing power but how quickly you get ult compared to jungle
@@angiegamez8600 yeah, and nocturne micro is so eazy to learn but it's macro has giant outplay potential, you can mindgame with opponent team so fricking well with it
Bro, I answered everything correctly; I feel like I leveled IRL.
well this is all cool but i already knew all that and i recognized it before you said it and yet i have never gotten to the s3, i have nearly never lost my lane, i allways do chitter recall, i know my limitations and with trynd i allways try to get first blood, i play around levels and waves, i know wave managment, and yet i cant seem to rank up
that illiao tech is nuts but at the cost of R maybe urf
lol, u accidentally switched their spells in the beginning. no biggie
I'll tell ya, if Skill Capped was mandatory before playing league match quality would go way up... due to toxic players that just want to play easy matches not being able to play.
as a trundle top and jgl main, i can say that im satisfied
as a panth main its crushing to see a panth lvl 1 with his Q and not his stun.. empowered E first spell guarantes easier trad and lane pressure more than the empowerd Q. And i get why he was taking ignite instead of tp, thanks to his ult, but tp can allow you to roam so much a panth a soon as you hit lvl 6
You get it, based
*_So i’m a low elo silver 2-4 player, that plays ranked flex with his high platinum/ low daimond friends to improve_* (playing against way better players to improve) i’m fond of duelists! just got m7 camille, intend to keep playing camille, fiora, jax / What i noticed in my elo is that if i play aggresive the first three levels and hard push, i nearly always win.. but slow pushing somehow always gets me at a disadvantage, + i like going all out. (Also yesterday i got absolutely demolished by this Platinum Kled, i played camille because i didnt know what champion is good vs him, i almost picked jax tho.
Bro I was literally searching for this video for the entire day yesterday and now it's posted, great minds think alike haha
Its like what Bruce Lee said "I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10,000 times."
Doesnt matter if you have a huge champ pool if youre below average on all of it but you can climb the ladder easily if you master 1 champ preferably a champ thats always on meta and has a great kit like lee sin or tresh and if you master the art of laning, cs , roaming/ganking and taking objectives.
Where do you learn who is stronger during certain stages of the game or power spikes?
Yoo my friend is the urgot at 7:30 my boy made it
Props to lee for landing q twice
Stronger lvl 1 is hard to say.
Theres 2 scenarios, shen can get a big trade of with 3 empovered q autos + shield and back off, he wins lvl 1 small scale fights. But complete all in is a different story.
I was about to say that urgot wasn't punishing nearly as hard as he could since he has the range advantage and pantheon isn't strong enough to really do anything about it
With the power of inting friendship , I will prevail .
7:59 9x Lee not crashing wave oof
I am a total newbie going into this. After watching, I still am. I don't understand gamer talk.... I'll rewatch this again when I understand your language
Skillcapped got so shook when they tried to call out their fans @0:35 when they already put the sums on the wrong side seconds earlier LOL an ironic twist to "spot the problem before I even say what it is" LMFAO
As an illaoi main I respect that comparison
The reason I don't like skill capped is that people dont understand yet need to in order to improve "all things bad and good are situational and need to be analyzed and understood on a case by case basis". I dont do competitive league but in any competitive scenario that is the ultimate truth. urgot poking panth in lane leading him to push could of been an excellent strat if they were setting up a gank scenario since many people know pantheon is an early game bully. The moment people critically think about a game instead of auto piloting (trust me everyone does it and it takes a purposeful effort to fight against that)
Woah,lol looks good i'll try (spam everything)
But like how do I know if the other lv1 champion is stronger than mine? Is there a way I can see it or do I have to memorize it??
7:08 Toplane is not Jungle diff at all.
0:29 summoners are flipped i suppose?
In the first jazz clip, should the jungle have gained for camile since the jax was deep or just get the other scuttle crab ???
Yorick mains: "slow push? What the hell is that?"
I’m diamond 3 and my gameplay is close to the silver gameplay , idk how to feel about it
Yeah but then again if that Shen ignited sooner there was a good chance he wins that duel.
No. Ignite lvl 1 is weak and trundle is just too strong lvl 1
Trundle Q steals AD from the enemy and that stolen AD stacks because it remains for a longer duration than the Q CD. Long fights level 1 means the enemy deals no damage with autos towards the end of the fight while Trundle deals more. Also that stolen Q AD increases your next Q damage because it scales with total AD as well.
Trundle lvl 1 is unbeatable, even using ignite earlier wouldn't save shen.
Where can I find this soundtrack?
i'm gold and i'm asking because i don't know:
in the urgot clip, the mistake i spotted is that he should not necessarily all in lv 1, but should zone pantheon from melee Q the wave since he got pushed from the first wave allowing pantheon to get lv 2 first (and we know ignite pantheon lv 2 can empowered W Q auto for a very high burst) while urgot at this point lv 1 would not be able to fight back because of the ignite and the minion advantage pantheon would have.
was i wrong?
Urgot lv1 is one of the strongest in the game. Even with ignite Panth cannot win. The strat here should be zoning Panth off the minion wave and slowly push the wave into tower. After lv3 you back off and respext the ignite and play until 6. Talking from a d3 perspective
I have been playing urgot wrong this whole time and I’m so annoyed
I was like "lmao how does shen have lvl 1 on panth" then saw the video is 2 years old. Old shen was no joke damn
What's that Top Priority he talks about? Can someone explain?
i played udyr top lethal tempo and tried to cheeze lvl 1 an urgot. Well, i barely made it alive but i won, so udyr strongest lvl 1 ?
If pantheon pokes his q since recharge is fast
is this good to use at mid too
yorick guide?
I only play champions that are good at everything. Laneing, 1v1, outnumbered, teamfighting. Until I get high elo but that’s how it works in every game.
Top lane really doesn't need a specific champ anymore, they just need lethal tempo
The difference is that the good one is on the enemy team and the bad one is on yours
My brain when I spot what they did wrong : “Ez. Although I’d do the same.”
I'm a trundle and shen main, and I'd say Shen wins but it's VERY even, and it's -highly- dependant on ignite timings, kiting, cds and runes.
For instance, Shen didn't have an agressive blade positioning. If he had a better blade placement, he could proc Q before the fight starts giving him less cooldown on his Q once it does start. He also takes minion aggro before trundle does which matters a lot. He also ignited way too late, letting trundle get two autos off with conq healing.
However, In a Shen vs Trundle matchup, I go for short trades with empowered Q and bramble first item, I don't think I would ever try to just 1v1 trundle.
Lads if you want some advice, become a one trick, play one champ and only that champ, you will see how eventually you'll become better.
Who wins on lvl 1 depends on rundes too
maybe urgot wait to proke bonesplating before engage :)
I pray
"know your champions spikes" and wave management, yeah thats a pretty toplane specific thing to do...
pick sett, wait lvl 2, all in with W, E and ignite
It’s easy just remember the move set/strength and level path of every character and be proficient in countering….ya know cake😂
ok... im silver and this urgot vs panth does not represent me at all. I thought at first hand that urgto should get in cause h has e and panth has q and not w
I actually answered every question correctly! Once a top main, always a top main :)
Tell me why the thumbnail says Yone top is bad 😡
why iron urgot in silver?
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Never would I have ever expected trundles lvl 1 to be better than shens wth just happend. Ty for teaching me I guess.
Trundle lvl 1 is strong as hell, just like warwick. Don't get close to them
Everything gets thrown out the window when you face a Volibear and Teemo pushing Toplaner