Fun fact, the tatoos Santa has that look like snowflakes are actual nordic staves, representing "finding your way home"( Vegvisir), and "helm of terror." (Aegishjalmr)
@@shinobi-no-bueno “Along with other symbols, the “vegvísir” came to Iceland most likely from England, where star-shaped symbols can be tracked as early as 15th century, such as “The Solomon's testament” (Harley MS 5596, 31r). The original symbols had their meaning in Christian mysticism.” It has nothing to do with old Norse or Viking traditions.
@@proudsaiyanprince2651 A fair bit of Norse mythos shares or takes it's roots from Christian mythology, such as the golden apples of Idunn (Eden). That doesn't stop it from being Norse. Are you also going to say that since Christian mythos is rooted in Judaic mythology that therefore it's all Judaism? Genuinely curious where you draw the line. Also worth mentioning that in your first comment you said the Vegvisir is from the 18th century, then your quote says the 15th. Which is it?
The Creepshow Christmas special was more emotionally resonant than any modern Disney film, and that was trying to be a complete joke. If you don't know, it ends with a furry getting married to Lil Yachty after cutting off Santa's head, then a catgirl asks a werewolf if they want to meet up for some sexy time. Love that movie.
21:50 The movie that everyone's trying to describe already exists, and it's called Fatman (2020). It stars Mel Gibson as Santa Claus and a little boy is pissed off that Santa gave him coal, so he hires a hit squad to go to the North Pole and kill Santa. And Santa is superhumanly strong (but not like Superman strong, like Spider-Man strong) and has a minor healing ability as well. It's a fun movie and I recommend it.
Hmmm, sorry but not really, that movie is even more boring and way worse than this one, for the first half of the movie nothing happens, Santa is protected by literal military special forces who are somehow completely incompetent, the hitsquad is actually just one guy and he does manage to kill Santa but luckly Santa's strong independent african wife manages to both outsmart and kill the hitman and save Santa, kind of like the scene with the husband and wife here... well actually it is almost the same scene...
Absolutely adore Fatman. Mel Gibson is awesome as a grizzled worn santa. Then how they incorporate the lore was awesome and loved how the story went (trying not to spoil for those that don't know).
Friggin' love that movie. And absolutely heartbroken at how it was 'sold' to the public. It's own marketing practically killed it, the trailers, the tag lines...because Fatman is NOT an action-romp-"santa clause is JOHN WICK OMG!" flick. Fatman is, if a 'santa clause/christmas story' is told through the style of a neo-western. Think 'No Country for Old Men', 'Unforgiven', 'The Mule', or any Taylor Sheridan movies.
It was probably copyrighted and they probably didn’t get permission. I’m assuming it was the Suess estate though because Universal distributed this movie and has the film rights to The Grinch
🙄 No the point is Scrooge became a believer in the end of A Christmas Carol, only this Scrooge is a murderer, so Santa turns his belief against him & uses his belief to boost his chimney power. They set it up earlier that when he was very drunk it tends to fritz. But then when Trudy was right overhead he was close to a believer & that boosted his power & he was able to go up the chimney easily. So later he's not drunk anymore but tired from so much fighting & bleeding, then he realizes the guy has pushed him up near the outdoor fireplace. Santa lets him appear to be winning & get closer to the chimney. He then points out the guy is now a believer, & bam uses the power boost to kill the guy.😂
I just love the legacy feature of DasBoSchitt. Every time he’s on I’m reminded of how amazing his garys mod stuff was, and also how dang long ago it was. A different era. But mauler hired him up. It’s all so nice and cozy.
A movie with a similar concept exists called Fatman (2020) with Mel Gibson, the movie has a different plot but still incorporates some of the things the EFAP crew mentioned in this
I think this movie would be drastically improved if after the villain told everyone his sad backstory, one of his henchmen just gave him a look and said "You serious?", to which the villain replies "Nah I'm just kidding, I just want the fucking money"
1. They brought Surface to Air Missiles and didn't even shoot down the sleigh? 2. No-one would have $300 million in cash, or they should make a joke about inflation burning half of it. 3. The payout dwindles pretty quickly when you hire a dozen mercenaries, snowmobiles, SAM systems... At least in Die Hard 2 it was a whole airport. They wouldn't have needed the mercs when the first group was able to kill the whole security team.
The money was stolen and funneled from the government. So it basically was already cash. Also 300 mil divided by even 20 people is 15mil a person. Granted that it could have been better and had it's own fault
27:30 even better idea; He doesn't get that equipment from his place, but from the main room's huge christmas tree. He does his magic thing he shows at the start, and everything on the tree becomes usable as weapons: *Baubles* used as grenades, *Tinsel* used as razor/barbed wire, *Garlands* used with bells as bomb and tripwire, *Candy canes* used as throwing knives, *Lights* as some kind of drug/booster ampules that makes him much faster/regenerate wounds, *The star* is some kind of homing super grenade he only gets one from the tree and uses on the final vilain as he tries to escape on his heli
the movie would be santa just being doom guy, he's all jolly and happy as he mows down every single one of them because they're on his naughty list and are too old for charcoal, the enemies are actually skilled but can't beat overwhelming unnatural strength with just skill the only reason it's a full-length movie and not a few minutes is that he just walks to the dude because he's still a fat lad and at about half he gets set back by falling down a hole he or the enemies made with a bomb
@@Cuzzys2nd let's crank it up by having an astartes P1+2 homage where santa's in the room with all his equipment and with the hostages, and there's a squad rushing in because they heard action, santa is arms-crossed, watching at a snow globe, enchanted to see what's going on, then he's passing a garland with a bell dangling from it over a rifle he's snatched, then as they reach the door and prepare to ram it open, as the lights are out, they swin open and a hail of santa-buffed bullets spray in, with the strength of bolter shots, ripping limbs and armor easily
26:25 Imagine if Santa pulled out his beard from under his coat, and it just kept coming and coming, and he'd pull out enough so that it can cover all of him and act as snow camo
I think I would do dr jeckle/ Mr. Hyde thing with Santa when he is around violence like this he turns into Krampus and can’t be stopped until morning or something like that
This seemed very tonally inconsistent. Sometimes it wants to be self aware and over the top, but then it immediately tries to be very genuine and cheesy in a way that isn't earned at all.
@@ThatJediReviews They were annoyed with the movie because it wasted the premise. They wanted it to be more ridiculous instead of spending time with crappy characters.
They talked about how the main villians codename should have been Krampus. What if at the end it turned out he was ACTUALLY Krampus. That could justify why he's able to take on Santa in a fight. His whole motivation wasn't to steal money but to draw Santa out by attacking a kid on the nice list and wait for him to show up. He's angry because Santa stopped punishing bad kids by giving them coal and now just gives gifts to good kids. Krampus wants to balance things by taking out Santa and take over Christmas so he can just punish bad kids.
And Santa should’ve like referenced krampus as being a real thing early on and then the real super scary demon krampus just like teleports in and carries off one of the bad guys into the woods in order to punish him for eternity and everyone who sees it is just terrified and dumb struck except for Santa who is just completely unmoved bcuz that’s just a real thing to him.
I’m wondering if they could make that work as the death for the final bad guy. Like “Mr. Scrooge” has brought all the family outside like in the original, only now he’s threatening to start executing them if Santa doesn’t stop (basically a Mexican standoff with Santa) but then just as he’s about to shoot Santa or one of the family or it looks like a fight is about to happen, Krampus just shows up out of nowhere and starts whipping him with a cane before popping him into a sack and dragging him screaming off into the night. Everyone is horrified except for a bemused Santa. Then maybe any remaining henchmen are like “oh shit… is this what happens to people on the naughty list” and just drop their guns.
Maybe the little girl needs to frantically write a Christmas letter to Santa asking for useful items so they appear in Santa's sack. "I've been a good girl all year, and would really like some nunchucks."
I was expecting a different payoff with the funny gunman with the hostages. That Santa meets them and recognizes him as one of his elves, to explain how into the whole Christmas theme he was.
Kinda like the Hydra Bob moment from Deadpool. If you set it up for the whole movie that he is the only one unaware if who they are up against, then when Santa bursts in. "Santa?" "Daryl?" "What are you doing here?"
@@Modification102 Yeah yeah, thats exactly the sort of thing I was expecting lol. Whether they still end up being enemies, or suddenly gain a sidekick for silly action scenes. The scene was fun in my head as I was watching and waiting lol
1:15:51 - His literal warhammer looks more fragile than just some random sledgehammer he found in the house. I mean... look at the girth on that handle... it's so skinny it looks like it would snap in half if he ever used it. (That's what she said)
I really think that the Nordic origin flashback should have been a bit of a throw away gag. Go down the route of Santa being reluctant to fight at first but then gets pushed to completely annihilating the bad guys when he sees a child in danger (the typical retired veteran back for one last job type schtick) Then have someone comment about how does he know how to fight like that, and have it zoom into Santa's memory of butchering people with a hammer while laughing hysterically and revelling in blood (maybe even have him holding a sack but it's full of heads), before smash cut back to him looking horrified and just saying 'nevermind'. Still acts as a nod to world building and justification as to why he's a badass, but keep it as a joke, rather than take it too seriously. EDIT: Also, on the note of utilising the sack more, and pulling out more presents that could be used as weapons, they really missed a trick on not getting super creative by having Santa makeshift weaponry from whatever he can find. Have him makeshift a bomb from a chemistry set and some LEGO and then deliver it via a remote controlled car. Maybe there's a 'secret agent spy toy' type thing he could use to listen in on the bad guys (or even find a way to make that the whole walkie-talkie thing with the kid). Hell, they could even do the 'molotov cocktail' gag they referenced in the film! Just have some new shitty TH-camrs energy drink all the kids are asking for turn out to be highly flammable and use that. They could have even done some sort of cruel, ironic death for one of the bad guys, like they get brutally killed by one of the toys they really wanted as a kid (or something related to it). So many options with this film, and they did barely any :(
This isn't terrible but it could have been better. Much like Godzilla movies where you are with humans most of the time, this movie underused Santa and had too much other stuff. Even the fact he's a fucking viking warrior, you could do lots with that, like the reason his suit is red is because of that. That evil goofy elf guy though, he was good, more of him should of been there.
A cool concept for a final fight could have been the antagonist doing "good deeds" to get himself on the nice list, only to punch santa, to get back on the naughty list. Could have just been a minute of the final fight (or even have happened as a first fight/encounter between them earlier in the film) but it gives the over produced naughty/nice list a little more purpose in the film. Should have been quite easy to set up to with the family doing simple things to move over to the nice list as the ole Chekov routine.
Mauler's joy of the chimney kill made this all worth it. I actually considered watching this and I'm glad I got to listen to ya'll watch it instead, because... man. This was painful by proxy.
The greedy villain burned a sack that could infinitely produce anything. Sure it's random. But infinite things are infinite money. There is no measurement to my disappointment with the "logic" of this film.
They should have played into the sack scene a little more. Santa: Nooooo! Not a lit fireplace! The sack's only weakness! Then have the bad guys comment on how many years Santa went into lit fireplaces without burning the sack, to give the bad guys more fuel to discredit Santa. Later have Santa mumble "I should have listened to Mrs. Claus when she said I should get the fireproof, waterproof, and reindeer-urineproof deal."
i find the complaint that the backstory part being too much a bad complaint, because i think if they did what rags asked for and just showed that single flash of a guy in a viking helm, they would complain uit wasnt clear enough and too unexplained
I think the version in the movies is still lame though cos it's " I used to be bad and used a hammer" just so they could set up him using a sledge hammer which as they said isn't Christmasy at all. If they wanted to go with the biking backstory they should have made it something like a cane with a sword hidden in it or something Christmas related lol
What you've said doesn't make any sense, it's literally contradicted in the video. They immediately go 'oh that's cool, imagine if this is all we're shown? we know it won't be but that'd be neat'. Your comment is bad and you should feel bad.
12:30 "They can't deliver them" depending on where you are, they can, some countries postal services actually take letters like that and even have people answer them.
I honestly forgot I watched this movie. I now remember liking Santa, the Kid, and the dad. A little bit of Scrooge (he was mostly cringe), in a cartoon villian way. And I probably would've remembered it better, and liked it more, if the action scenes weren't so cheaply done and devoid of stakes. It had good gags, funny lines, and neat details, but the side characters felt like tired memes or planks of wood and the action was lazily coreographed. Oooo a fast spinning shot during a fight? The coreography must be good, a turning camera is action!
I love the idea that the Norwegian govt is composed of various metal bands, and saddened that's likely not the case. p.s. love the music choice at 1:13:52
I think an interesting Santa story is one where it's a spy thriller where Santa infiltrates a secure location to deliver gifts. A good setting would be USSR, the communists wouldn't know him and their naughtiness (which would be established prior) lends to Santa trying to avoid them or knock them out with a lump of coal (for especially naughty).
I absolutely loved this. More than any other time I can remember, the panel were discussing what they would do to improve the movie in real time. It was a really nice insight into how they think about this stuff
So what I can expect from being Santa, I can become a raging alcoholic by drinking their expensive hard liquor while not giving a flying fuck about what you want
I wonder how much blood he dripped over other unrelated people's homes at the end. Like were there gifts from santa covered in bloody hand prints all around the world later?
the question i have regarding the dartboard isnt "how did the come out" centrifugal forces (even though they likely would release toward the floor or ceiling instead of the target) or "how did they reverse" dart flights (even though they'd likely need more space) my question is how did those flights even stay attached? things love to come flying off XD
29:00 Rags is close, but the way you do the Santa's Giftbag Weapons joke is this: you've got Santa by his sleigh, pinned down, rummaging through his big red sack for viable defensive weapons. and it's just stuff like DVD's teddy bears and cheese. and he finally gives up, and before dumping the bag he checks the label and it says "San Francisco" or some other non-offensive place. and he turns around to his sleigh, which is full of similar sacks, and the first bag he finds is something oddly specific like "South Central L.A." and it's full of RPG's and whatnot. or, you flip it, and the weirdly specific "violent" urban hell-zone destination is the one full of cheese while the one marked "Friendship, Rhode Island" is full of nukes or whatever.
Santa having, magical regeneration powers and leaning into extreme gore, with him feeling all of the pain involved. Blown up leaving only a small piece of him, the bad guys assuming he’s dead now that he’s been blown up only to regenerate from his big toe.
I thought the movie was fun, but y'all are right. It could have been much better. Probably only thought so highly of it because I was in an absolute drought of good films.
Something they could do is make Santa and Krampus the same person and you could do a Jeckyll and Hyde thing where he has to get pulled back after going too far
Hey Mauler and co. hope 2024 is going well for you so far! I know good writing is fairly hard to come by these days but if you haven't seen any of the series Slow Horses I would strongly recommend you to take a look. Its themes are a little too adult to do any sort of live reaction (which is a travesty but the reality) but it has some fantastic writing and building of tension. Each season can stand by itself and while it is based on the books, there is no context needed coming into the series. Also has some incredible actors just doing their thing like Gary Oldman, Kristin Scott Thomas, Olivia Cooke (from House of the Dragon), Jonathan Price and more. It's a world of flawed characters, something I find to be very rare nowadays with your marvels and your star wars. I would be super interested to see your thoughts on it honestly.
I think they should of gone one of two ways, either go hard into his Viking Beserker aspect or go hard on the Christmas wackiness. For example wanna stick with a bit of humor with the xmas theme, Bauble grenades, massive Candy Cane Spear Scythe one side a pointy bit the bendy part a blade for decapitation, tinsel with razor wire in it, xmas light electrical whip, present mines, the reindeer vicious and will mutilate and devour their foes. Right there I came up with several more interesting ideas they could of used.
So far in 2024, we get a new video every day. Hope you can keep up the pace
You WILL get a new video every day, not all of them might be from EFAP, though.
28 hours of content a day sounds great.
The consistency is staggering
Nerdrotic, G+G, and the EFAP crews are all pumping out content like they are seeing a bad year ahead. LOL
Can't believe that in the conversation about what Santa's throwing stars should be, no one thought of snowflakes.
Truly
That's exactly what I was thinking too, lol!
I was thinking cookies
@@emuman09 Yeah, but you're always thinking cookies... not that there's anything wrong with that.
To fat
Fun fact, the tatoos Santa has that look like snowflakes are actual nordic staves, representing "finding your way home"( Vegvisir), and "helm of terror." (Aegishjalmr)
Those staves are not “Viking” they are Icelandic staves from the 18th century and have judeo Christian roots.
@@proudsaiyanprince2651what exactly is the Christian root of Nordic magic?
@@shinobi-no-bueno
“Along with other symbols, the “vegvísir” came to Iceland most likely from England, where star-shaped symbols can be tracked as early as 15th century, such as “The Solomon's testament” (Harley MS 5596, 31r). The original symbols had their meaning in Christian mysticism.” It has nothing to do with old Norse or Viking traditions.
@@proudsaiyanprince2651 A fair bit of Norse mythos shares or takes it's roots from Christian mythology, such as the golden apples of Idunn (Eden). That doesn't stop it from being Norse.
Are you also going to say that since Christian mythos is rooted in Judaic mythology that therefore it's all Judaism? Genuinely curious where you draw the line.
Also worth mentioning that in your first comment you said the Vegvisir is from the 18th century, then your quote says the 15th. Which is it?
Unironically, Violent Night managed to be a more emotionally resonant film than anything Disney made last year.
Is there even a bar at this point for Disney?
I think that bar is near the earth's core by now.
I do like this angle on Santa Claus but I think I would like more of a John wick version
Last year?
The Creepshow Christmas special was more emotionally resonant than any modern Disney film, and that was trying to be a complete joke.
If you don't know, it ends with a furry getting married to Lil Yachty after cutting off Santa's head, then a catgirl asks a werewolf if they want to meet up for some sexy time. Love that movie.
21:50 The movie that everyone's trying to describe already exists, and it's called Fatman (2020). It stars Mel Gibson as Santa Claus and a little boy is pissed off that Santa gave him coal, so he hires a hit squad to go to the North Pole and kill Santa. And Santa is superhumanly strong (but not like Superman strong, like Spider-Man strong) and has a minor healing ability as well. It's a fun movie and I recommend it.
Yes! Please EFAP Movies this one!
Hmmm, sorry but not really, that movie is even more boring and way worse than this one, for the first half of the movie nothing happens, Santa is protected by literal military special forces who are somehow completely incompetent, the hitsquad is actually just one guy and he does manage to kill Santa but luckly Santa's strong independent african wife manages to both outsmart and kill the hitman and save Santa, kind of like the scene with the husband and wife here... well actually it is almost the same scene...
Fatman is actually worth watching.
Absolutely adore Fatman. Mel Gibson is awesome as a grizzled worn santa. Then how they incorporate the lore was awesome and loved how the story went (trying not to spoil for those that don't know).
Friggin' love that movie. And absolutely heartbroken at how it was 'sold' to the public. It's own marketing practically killed it, the trailers, the tag lines...because Fatman is NOT an action-romp-"santa clause is JOHN WICK OMG!" flick. Fatman is, if a 'santa clause/christmas story' is told through the style of a neo-western. Think 'No Country for Old Men', 'Unforgiven', 'The Mule', or any Taylor Sheridan movies.
The bad guy should have been called the Grinch, his backstory is literally him trying to steal Christmas.
It was probably copyrighted and they probably didn’t get permission. I’m assuming it was the Suess estate though because Universal distributed this movie and has the film rights to The Grinch
🙄 No the point is Scrooge became a believer in the end of A Christmas Carol, only this Scrooge is a murderer, so Santa turns his belief against him & uses his belief to boost his chimney power. They set it up earlier that when he was very drunk it tends to fritz. But then when Trudy was right overhead he was close to a believer & that boosted his power & he was able to go up the chimney easily. So later he's not drunk anymore but tired from so much fighting & bleeding, then he realizes the guy has pushed him up near the outdoor fireplace. Santa lets him appear to be winning & get closer to the chimney. He then points out the guy is now a believer, & bam uses the power boost to kill the guy.😂
The pure joy in Mauler's voice when he saw John Leguizamo go through the chimney...
I really enjoyed Mauler’s excitement at getting his chimney kill. :)
When he made the prediction I immediately got happy.
His description (grinds the body on the way up) was better than the visual payoff, truth be told.
It makes me laugh that almost all the seasonal ways to kill that the EFAP crew came up with are already in a movie: Santa Slays
Did you mean Santa's Slay? That's a favorite of mine.
That's the one! It's such a fun twist on the Santa Claus lore
I like that David Harbour's career started with playing washed up drunks and then he lashed himself to the wheel and decided to die on that ship.
Why didn't they ask Tim Allen? Did he decline?
He is playing to his strengths.
I just love the legacy feature of DasBoSchitt. Every time he’s on I’m reminded of how amazing his garys mod stuff was, and also how dang long ago it was. A different era. But mauler hired him up. It’s all so nice and cozy.
@@ThePenAndTheRose ok
Just like Giancarlo Esposito who always plays Gus Fring in every role he’s in. Easiest way to get money.
First Mike from RLM, now Rags... dementia is taking another real one from us 😢
Rags has been showing signs of early onset Alzheimer's for years.
@@eXpriest This, but unironically
@@antiphon000 It wasn't ironic. It was an assessment.
i’m pretty sure he was just shitfaced here though lmao
He's actually humorous now 😂
A movie with a similar concept exists called Fatman (2020) with Mel Gibson, the movie has a different plot but still incorporates some of the things the EFAP crew mentioned in this
I think this movie would be drastically improved if after the villain told everyone his sad backstory, one of his henchmen just gave him a look and said "You serious?", to which the villain replies "Nah I'm just kidding, I just want the fucking money"
Movie wants to be diehard, but isn't willing to let their bad guys be Alan Rickman.
Rudolph isn't a regular, he's a situational addition.
1. They brought Surface to Air Missiles and didn't even shoot down the sleigh?
2. No-one would have $300 million in cash, or they should make a joke about inflation burning half of it.
3. The payout dwindles pretty quickly when you hire a dozen mercenaries, snowmobiles, SAM systems... At least in Die Hard 2 it was a whole airport. They wouldn't have needed the mercs when the first group was able to kill the whole security team.
The money was stolen and funneled from the government. So it basically was already cash. Also 300 mil divided by even 20 people is 15mil a person. Granted that it could have been better and had it's own fault
Rags is J. J. Abrams, confirmed, with his obsession with the mystery box bullsh**
For being on team Christmas, Rags seem awfully grinched for Christmas movie.
Wdym
He's not gonna give a movie a free pass because it's Christmas themed.
JlongBone's laugh never fails to crack me up 😂
She could say nothing the whole time and the laugh makes her presence totally worth it.
my total fave. i love every review shes in. listening to her lose it to home alone was great
27:30 even better idea; He doesn't get that equipment from his place, but from the main room's huge christmas tree. He does his magic thing he shows at the start, and everything on the tree becomes usable as weapons:
*Baubles* used as grenades, *Tinsel* used as razor/barbed wire, *Garlands* used with bells as bomb and tripwire, *Candy canes* used as throwing knives, *Lights* as some kind of drug/booster ampules that makes him much faster/regenerate wounds, *The star* is some kind of homing super grenade he only gets one from the tree and uses on the final vilain as he tries to escape on his heli
the movie would be santa just being doom guy, he's all jolly and happy as he mows down every single one of them because they're on his naughty list and are too old for charcoal,
the enemies are actually skilled but can't beat overwhelming unnatural strength with just skill
the only reason it's a full-length movie and not a few minutes is that he just walks to the dude because he's still a fat lad and at about half he gets set back by falling down a hole he or the enemies made with a bomb
YES, we need this now!!
@@Cuzzys2nd let's crank it up by having an astartes P1+2 homage where santa's in the room with all his equipment and with the hostages, and there's a squad rushing in because they heard action, santa is arms-crossed, watching at a snow globe, enchanted to see what's going on, then he's passing a garland with a bell dangling from it over a rifle he's snatched, then as they reach the door and prepare to ram it open, as the lights are out, they swin open and a hail of santa-buffed bullets spray in, with the strength of bolter shots, ripping limbs and armor easily
I know they said the War movie arc was unusual but this seems like an odd entry even by those standards 😏
Fatman 2020 is the film you wanted to see.
26:25 Imagine if Santa pulled out his beard from under his coat, and it just kept coming and coming, and he'd pull out enough so that it can cover all of him and act as snow camo
I think I would do dr jeckle/ Mr. Hyde thing with Santa when he is around violence like this he turns into Krampus and can’t be stopped until morning or something like that
you've got your Home Alone in my Die Hard!
you've got my Die Hard in your Home Alone!
XD
This seemed very tonally inconsistent. Sometimes it wants to be self aware and over the top, but then it immediately tries to be very genuine and cheesy in a way that isn't earned at all.
Damn, efap is way more critical on this one, i was hoping for more jokes
Though it is true that the movie has a lot of wasted potential
At least it's entertaining unlike most current movies and shows
It's not a GOOD movie, but it's a fun movie
@@shinobi-no-buenoit was a great movie they were overly critical.
Yes, but I kinda thought them knowing how ridiculous the premise is, they'd ease up like they do on so many others
@@ThatJediReviews They were annoyed with the movie because it wasted the premise. They wanted it to be more ridiculous instead of spending time with crappy characters.
Always nice to see Wolf on the job, cheers mate.
John Leguizamo was one of the terrorists in Die Hard 2…and there’s the real Die Hard connection.
They talked about how the main villians codename should have been Krampus. What if at the end it turned out he was ACTUALLY Krampus. That could justify why he's able to take on Santa in a fight. His whole motivation wasn't to steal money but to draw Santa out by attacking a kid on the nice list and wait for him to show up. He's angry because Santa stopped punishing bad kids by giving them coal and now just gives gifts to good kids. Krampus wants to balance things by taking out Santa and take over Christmas so he can just punish bad kids.
Lmao having the kid get slapped while Christmas Truce plays was a top tier edit. Good job Wolf.
My family and I had a good time with this movie. It mostly does it's Die Hard but Santa premise fairly well
And Santa should’ve like referenced krampus as being a real thing early on and then the real super scary demon krampus just like teleports in and carries off one of the bad guys into the woods in order to punish him for eternity and everyone who sees it is just terrified and dumb struck except for Santa who is just completely unmoved bcuz that’s just a real thing to him.
I’m wondering if they could make that work as the death for the final bad guy.
Like “Mr. Scrooge” has brought all the family outside like in the original, only now he’s threatening to start executing them if Santa doesn’t stop (basically a Mexican standoff with Santa) but then just as he’s about to shoot Santa or one of the family or it looks like a fight is about to happen, Krampus just shows up out of nowhere and starts whipping him with a cane before popping him into a sack and dragging him screaming off into the night.
Everyone is horrified except for a bemused Santa. Then maybe any remaining henchmen are like “oh shit… is this what happens to people on the naughty list” and just drop their guns.
@@mrdropkicker1 EXACTLY. Thank god, someone around here gets it. You’ve realized my vision.
You guys know you have to watch "Fatman" Mel Gibson's Santa movie next.
Maybe the little girl needs to frantically write a Christmas letter to Santa asking for useful items so they appear in Santa's sack.
"I've been a good girl all year, and would really like some nunchucks."
That little girl is gonna incur the wrath of Shad
@@mrdropkicker1 However if she asked for a stick like weapon he would be overjoyed
I was expecting a different payoff with the funny gunman with the hostages. That Santa meets them and recognizes him as one of his elves, to explain how into the whole Christmas theme he was.
Kinda like the Hydra Bob moment from Deadpool.
If you set it up for the whole movie that he is the only one unaware if who they are up against, then when Santa bursts in.
"Santa?"
"Daryl?"
"What are you doing here?"
@@Modification102 Yeah yeah, thats exactly the sort of thing I was expecting lol. Whether they still end up being enemies, or suddenly gain a sidekick for silly action scenes.
The scene was fun in my head as I was watching and waiting lol
if Santa goes passed the moon, and you get a double flawless w/ a Fatality, then you can fight Reptile at the bottom of The Pit.
1:15:51 - His literal warhammer looks more fragile than just some random sledgehammer he found in the house. I mean... look at the girth on that handle... it's so skinny it looks like it would snap in half if he ever used it. (That's what she said)
Didn’t even have to check who edited to know it was wolf off the bat. Great job again
HELL YES! Me and my dad absolutely LOVE this movie!!!!!!
This is so good. Editing, commentary - you guys are fantastic. Thank you!
I really think that the Nordic origin flashback should have been a bit of a throw away gag.
Go down the route of Santa being reluctant to fight at first but then gets pushed to completely annihilating the bad guys when he sees a child in danger (the typical retired veteran back for one last job type schtick)
Then have someone comment about how does he know how to fight like that, and have it zoom into Santa's memory of butchering people with a hammer while laughing hysterically and revelling in blood (maybe even have him holding a sack but it's full of heads), before smash cut back to him looking horrified and just saying 'nevermind'.
Still acts as a nod to world building and justification as to why he's a badass, but keep it as a joke, rather than take it too seriously.
EDIT: Also, on the note of utilising the sack more, and pulling out more presents that could be used as weapons, they really missed a trick on not getting super creative by having Santa makeshift weaponry from whatever he can find. Have him makeshift a bomb from a chemistry set and some LEGO and then deliver it via a remote controlled car. Maybe there's a 'secret agent spy toy' type thing he could use to listen in on the bad guys (or even find a way to make that the whole walkie-talkie thing with the kid). Hell, they could even do the 'molotov cocktail' gag they referenced in the film! Just have some new shitty TH-camrs energy drink all the kids are asking for turn out to be highly flammable and use that.
They could have even done some sort of cruel, ironic death for one of the bad guys, like they get brutally killed by one of the toys they really wanted as a kid (or something related to it).
So many options with this film, and they did barely any :(
For next year, check out Fatman if you want that spec-ops style Santa
Damn, we are getting spoiled! Appreciate everything you do.
This isn't terrible but it could have been better. Much like Godzilla movies where you are with humans most of the time, this movie underused Santa and had too much other stuff. Even the fact he's a fucking viking warrior, you could do lots with that, like the reason his suit is red is because of that.
That evil goofy elf guy though, he was good, more of him should of been there.
“Piss on Biden.” - JLoneBone 😂
Theres probably a version of the script that includes elfs. But Peter Dinklage rode his segway down to the studio and said "nuh uh. Not on my watch"
The Rags Walkie-talkie joke is gold. I don't care what he thinks 😉
Santa vomiting on the bar matron was absolute TOPS
Love a good barf. This was not a good barf.
Honestly, I loved this movie. Warts n' all.
You guys should watch 'Fatman' next time. It's a fun Christmas watch.
A cool concept for a final fight could have been the antagonist doing "good deeds" to get himself on the nice list, only to punch santa, to get back on the naughty list. Could have just been a minute of the final fight (or even have happened as a first fight/encounter between them earlier in the film) but it gives the over produced naughty/nice list a little more purpose in the film. Should have been quite easy to set up to with the family doing simple things to move over to the nice list as the ole Chekov routine.
Wasted potential can be so much more frustrating than outright bad movies.
Thanks to Wolf, or however edited this video for Nevermore's song Believe In Nothing. RIP Warrel Dane
Did not suspect nevermore to appear in this video, but it was a welcome surprise
I think your Rags is malfunctioning. Have you tried turning him off, then on again?
Wdym?
I love you guys. This is my new go to. I am definitely a long-form boy. Keep cranking it out
Mauler's joy of the chimney kill made this all worth it. I actually considered watching this and I'm glad I got to listen to ya'll watch it instead, because... man. This was painful by proxy.
The greedy villain burned a sack that could infinitely produce anything. Sure it's random. But infinite things are infinite money. There is no measurement to my disappointment with the "logic" of this film.
They should have played into the sack scene a little more.
Santa: Nooooo! Not a lit fireplace! The sack's only weakness!
Then have the bad guys comment on how many years Santa went into lit fireplaces without burning the sack, to give the bad guys more fuel to discredit Santa. Later have Santa mumble "I should have listened to Mrs. Claus when she said I should get the fireproof, waterproof, and reindeer-urineproof deal."
Literally watched this two days ago. Was pleasantly surprised. Solid 6/10
Could be better, but still a solid popcorn flick.
i find the complaint that the backstory part being too much a bad complaint, because i think if they did what rags asked for and just showed that single flash of a guy in a viking helm, they would complain uit wasnt clear enough and too unexplained
I think the version in the movies is still lame though cos it's " I used to be bad and used a hammer" just so they could set up him using a sledge hammer which as they said isn't Christmasy at all. If they wanted to go with the biking backstory they should have made it something like a cane with a sword hidden in it or something Christmas related lol
@@emuman09 then that wouldn't be viking.............
What you've said doesn't make any sense, it's literally contradicted in the video. They immediately go 'oh that's cool, imagine if this is all we're shown? we know it won't be but that'd be neat'. Your comment is bad and you should feel bad.
12:30 "They can't deliver them"
depending on where you are, they can, some countries postal services actually take letters like that and even have people answer them.
I like that he specified US Dollars in this US setting. Otherwise I might have assumed it was $300,000,000 in rai stones.
Starting the new year off proper. Cheers
Next year “Fat Man”! Mel Gibson is Santa and he has to face a hit man that a mob boss’ kid sent after him.
well, perhaps this movie is finally the incentive for these guys to do an EFAP Movies marathon of the 5 Die Hard films.
Please can you watch Fatman for the next crimbus? The action in that and characters other than santa are actually great. :(
Well, happy New Year and PEACE on Earth... even if you didn't liked this fiml!🎅🎄🎁
Ugh I wanna see the efap version of this movie now!
get your candy sticks ready
*_we're watching violent night!_*
Rags spoke at the perfect opportunity. Well done sir. Well done
23:40. That Commander Shepard edit was GOLD.
I did not expect Sabaton to be the end-of-EFAP gag, but I very much approve
I honestly forgot I watched this movie. I now remember liking Santa, the Kid, and the dad. A little bit of Scrooge (he was mostly cringe), in a cartoon villian way. And I probably would've remembered it better, and liked it more, if the action scenes weren't so cheaply done and devoid of stakes. It had good gags, funny lines, and neat details, but the side characters felt like tired memes or planks of wood and the action was lazily coreographed. Oooo a fast spinning shot during a fight? The coreography must be good, a turning camera is action!
I love the idea that the Norwegian govt is composed of various metal bands, and saddened that's likely not the case.
p.s. love the music choice at 1:13:52
I love this movie, is it a good movie, God no, is it an entertaining movie, fuck yes
Exactly. It isn't Cinema, it's a movie 🤙
I think an interesting Santa story is one where it's a spy thriller where Santa infiltrates a secure location to deliver gifts. A good setting would be USSR, the communists wouldn't know him and their naughtiness (which would be established prior) lends to Santa trying to avoid them or knock them out with a lump of coal (for especially naughty).
I love how you can tell everyone in the movie was having an absolute blast.
guys i don't think they liked the movie.
I absolutely loved this. More than any other time I can remember, the panel were discussing what they would do to improve the movie in real time. It was a really nice insight into how they think about this stuff
A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one
So what I can expect from being Santa, I can become a raging alcoholic by drinking their expensive hard liquor while not giving a flying fuck about what you want
I wonder how much blood he dripped over other unrelated people's homes at the end. Like were there gifts from santa covered in bloody hand prints all around the world later?
I didn't not expect that Shadow the Hedgehog reference sting.
Loving the daily movies, but we need even mooorreeeeeee
What a lovely suprise.
the question i have regarding the dartboard isnt
"how did the come out" centrifugal forces (even though they likely would release toward the floor or ceiling instead of the target)
or
"how did they reverse" dart flights (even though they'd likely need more space)
my question is how did those flights even stay attached? things love to come flying off XD
29:00 Rags is close, but the way you do the Santa's Giftbag Weapons joke is this: you've got Santa by his sleigh, pinned down, rummaging through his big red sack for viable defensive weapons. and it's just stuff like DVD's teddy bears and cheese. and he finally gives up, and before dumping the bag he checks the label and it says "San Francisco" or some other non-offensive place. and he turns around to his sleigh, which is full of similar sacks, and the first bag he finds is something oddly specific like "South Central L.A." and it's full of RPG's and whatnot.
or, you flip it, and the weirdly specific "violent" urban hell-zone destination is the one full of cheese while the one marked "Friendship, Rhode Island" is full of nukes or whatever.
Santa having, magical regeneration powers and leaning into extreme gore, with him feeling all of the pain involved. Blown up leaving only a small piece of him, the bad guys assuming he’s dead now that he’s been blown up only to regenerate from his big toe.
I thought the movie was fun, but y'all are right. It could have been much better. Probably only thought so highly of it because I was in an absolute drought of good films.
For some reason, "GRANDMA, YOUR WIFI SUCKS DICK!!!," really hit me hard... lmao seriously i'm crying
Something they could do is make Santa and Krampus the same person and you could do a Jeckyll and Hyde thing where he has to get pulled back after going too far
i like how all their suggestions for jokes are all just jokes from The Santa Clause
Is that bad?
@@thatitguy6812 why do you think i'd say "i like" and then mean it in a bad way?
Ill be honest, this film is my guilty pleasure. Idk man i thought it was fun and pretty funny.
^.-.^ Enjoying it is perfectly fine.
Hey Mauler and co. hope 2024 is going well for you so far!
I know good writing is fairly hard to come by these days but if you haven't seen any of the series Slow Horses I would strongly recommend you to take a look. Its themes are a little too adult to do any sort of live reaction (which is a travesty but the reality) but it has some fantastic writing and building of tension. Each season can stand by itself and while it is based on the books, there is no context needed coming into the series. Also has some incredible actors just doing their thing like Gary Oldman, Kristin Scott Thomas, Olivia Cooke (from House of the Dragon), Jonathan Price and more. It's a world of flawed characters, something I find to be very rare nowadays with your marvels and your star wars. I would be super interested to see your thoughts on it honestly.
darts that are thrown backwards will correct themself to face forwards cause of where the center mass is and the fins on the back
Come on, guys... this was a good time. Lighten up.
Little Sabaton at the end.....nice.
I think they should of gone one of two ways, either go hard into his Viking Beserker aspect or go hard on the Christmas wackiness.
For example wanna stick with a bit of humor with the xmas theme, Bauble grenades, massive Candy Cane Spear Scythe one side a pointy bit the bendy part a blade for decapitation, tinsel with razor wire in it, xmas light electrical whip, present mines, the reindeer vicious and will mutilate and devour their foes.
Right there I came up with several more interesting ideas they could of used.
Hang on...i live in Bristol, i dont remember a violent Santa visiting!