How is it horrendous?? We are getting some phenomenal matchups. City will face Juventus PSG Inter etc Liverpool will play Madrid Leverkusen Milan etc Arsenal vs Inter PSG etc. We are getting some great exciting games imo
@diddyxl you mean integrity?. No meaning anymore, manufactured fixtures to get little kids excited, while they double their revenue. The reason these tournaments mean something is because every team has won it in the same format. Now? Forget it, you can't look at past winners and compare sides.
It’s much better & actually exciting. Ppl complaining doing it bc it’s default settings for them. As if the CL and football in general has not always been abt money? It’s always abt money
Scarcity sells. As great as the Olympics and world cup are, they would be ruined if it was annual. Same goes for the CL. It's beyond saturation. These great matches won't be played in from of full stadiums. As much as the CL is hyped, truth is no one cares about the CL till the last 16 in March.
Rory being an idiot as usual. Coefficients are meaningless. You get 2 teams from each pot. Regardless of what pot you are in. Yes arsenal were lucky with the draw. But it had nothing to do with coefficients. Or what pot they were in.
How is this horrendous? This is the most exciting the group stage have been! These two guys are one of the dumbest but the luckiest to have the chance to appear on a platform like this!
Not wishing to be a pendant but if you are a football commentator learn how to prounce a major historic European club correctly. Juventus is pronounced with a silent "J".
Only downside of the new format is the increase from 32 to 36. The way this league is set however does look rather promising and far more interesting than the former group stage.
@@broman1429 Haaland has 41 goals. That’s 100 goals less. Let’s just say, he scores 15/20 per season (new model gives him extra games) that’s 5 yrs from now minimum. Big if 😂.
I don’t know, about this I think this massively favours the big clubs all the same, yes might be some surprises in the playoff rounds but pretty certain who’s gonna be the teams qualifying automatically for last 16, and I think this league format eliminates any chances for surprises at least for automatics
@@jorgeandrade783 How does it favor any side? Every side gets two opponents from each of the four pots randomly. The seeding comes in after the opening 8 games, where a side's position in the table determines its seed for the knockouts.
Add.1 more team 8 groups 5 teams 8 games each Anyone can be drawn in any group apart from teams from the same league! That's how we would have improved the CL this jew format sucks r
@@scottadams4655you could get some really one sided groups. Some not worth it to watch while another could have most top teams in europe and some top teams going out way earlier then they should
Those guys barely watch European football, Milan probably the 2nd worst Italian team in the competition while Leverkusen a juggernaut nowadays especially they kept all their key players
It’s two more matches added to increase revenue in the "group stage." Just another example of money taking precedent over increasing fixture congestion at the very top level of the game. On another note, I’m creating my own football channel. I look forward to discussing the sport with more people going forward.
This is much better format; big games from the off, more games that matter and the knockout rounds are maintained. Let's be honest, in the old format there were only a handful of group and round of 16 games that were mouthwatering, especially for fans with no skin in the game. Don't let the Super League taint your opinion of this, this is not that, it's a meritocracy.
Not Horrendous at all, it will be much more fun now.. we play 8 different teams from europe now, instead of repeating the same 3 teams in the old format.. and it isn't complicated, top 8 go to quarters where they wait for the next 16 to play a knockout round to face them.
What's difficult to understand? And why is this worse than the group stage final games where teams play dead rubbers? I frankly think this format is exciting because every game means something with the final rankings from the opening phase determining the seedings for the knockout phase. (I am 100% disinterested as my club isn't in Europe this year.)
It's potentially a great thing. In paper we finally have big teams facing one another who'll be actively trying to win and not just trying not to lose like we see in the latter stages of all major tournaments.
Like the new format. It is more competitive and interesting. The competition is not static inside each group, each team is competing against every other teams constantly. Every game and every goal will matter in this new format. I think we will see more exciting football in this new format. You can not just score a goal and sit back for the rest of the game. Or, play a boring 0-0 draw to survive the group stage.
champions league becoming more just for interests of big clubs especially now that some of those who don't qualify for final 16 don't drop into Europa League which just hurts the quality and prestige of that competition.
They create this new elaborate system when all it really required was to make the group stage unseeded. Seeded groups in a competition with so many 'filler' teams was always going to be boring.
The only change is you play 2 teams from your own Pot. And you don't get dead rubbers and top teams resting players, so more jeopardy. January transfer window will become an issue, though.
Bang on, I was initially against it, now I’ve seen the draws ( arsenal fan ) I think it’s great, PSG at home? Inter away? Usually would have to wait till feb for those fixtures.
That’s the only change is it? What about the unknown situation of playing say Madrid at Home, while another team will only play them away? The whole draw, with CR7 hitting that button is open to corruption. It was simple before, now it’s far too over complicated and open to abuse.
He asked who got the hardest draw from the British teams First he babbles on about how Arsenal got it easy Then babbles on about how unkind it is for PSG Do you even know the question?
Rory, you're complaining about the new format while laying out all the problems with the old format and the exciting elements the new format adds. Why can't you just say it?: it's a potentially much more exciting format.
If anything it should have gone back to a straight knock out competition. The people running football are going to kill the game. The way it's going football is going to die. Theres only one way down from the top
@Robert.Sheard it will I know people who don't watch as much as they used. Because of things like var,prices,changes within the game,etc International football is already on the decline. Most people only watch the major tournaments,
The villa loving does my head in. On what basis should they be coasting through. Did nothing in the ECL last season despite having the best squad on paper so why should they pull up any trees in CL
This is as close to a european super league that youre going to get until you get it. But i dont mind the new format to be honest. It will make it more competitive because all teams need to play for three points.
9th to 24th playoff is pointless and a waste of time. Might is well do the top 16 that qualify instead which makes more sense. I would of changed the format to 32 teams 4 leagues of 8 clubs play 6 games 3 home 3 away and one less dead rubber top 4 qualify and bottom 4 for the knockout last 16 2 legs and do final 8 tournament end of the season like they did in 2020
I don't like. Much prefer the of format of European Cup when football was pure, winners of every league play each other in a knockout format, no 1st abd 2nds, no leagues.. Just pure knockout football amongst the very best in Europe and it wasn't all about money.
As Ade Oladipo said, and precisely what I have been saying, this is the start of the European Super League. The Premier League will be gone in a few years.
I stopped watching his TH-cam channel because he doesn't make sense when he speaks .( Rorry) I don't know how he started again in Talksports. The new Champions league is a pure class. COMPLETE GAME CHANGER. FAR BETTER THAN THE OLD ONE. MAYBE HE IS JEALOUS BCUS CHELSEA ISN'T THERE.
you win your first four games teams will know they have qualified and start using reserves to concentrate on the league games and some matches become redundant... as for guaranteed 8 games plus maybe 4 in the league cup 4 -5 in the fa cup 38 league games nations league games world cup qualifiers plus friendlies you could be playing as many as 60 games if your a full international with out a break.. i thought that was the reason why cup replays were scrapped to ease the burden but no its just screwed the smaller claubs a chance of a big payday in order to shoe horn in more CL games at their expense
"AC Milan are tough by name only."? He finds this format "horrendous"? LOL, where did Talksport get this Oladipo fellow from and make him a pundit? What a joke.
I think it’s a great format. Slightly confusing but you are getting so many more big games up front. TH-camrs just like to complain to get more traction which is why people see through their bs
I think there was always a flaw in the group stage part entertainment wise, not that it became stale. You had 4 months of playing 3 teams twice, it becomes tedious where teams and fans are kind of going through the motions 4-6 games in it feels like from what i see. This also adds more of a surprise fixture element even though they’re laid out already that’s more exciting I think, like you get in the league. You’ll see fixtures week to week that pop up that look good while with the group stage format we know what matches are happening for 4 months.
As a Canadian fan of European football, are these two 🤡 the best talksport can do? This was difficult to listen too. I guess they earn their pay by infuriating real football fans with their asinine takes.
Arsenal has no pedigree in Europe & struggling away vs the likes of Porto & PSG. Atalanta smacked Liverpool last season 4-1 & is no pushover at home. Inter even a class above, watched how they smashed Atalanta 4-0 last night, they are now a well oiled engine under Inzaghi in his 4th year in charge, fancy them to beat Arsenal in San Siro. If they drop 4 points vs the Italians away and draw PSG at home, almost certain they would go to the playoffs
@@junioradult6219 People aren't getting it. The whole point of pots before was you don't play teams in the same pot. So now you do. I agree after the first round it matters where you finish but whether you're pot 1 or pot 4 it doesn't matter.
Yes and no. Seeding the pots is important so that the goal of every side having roughly equivalent difficulty in opponents over the eight games is possible. But the real seeding comes after the 8 games, and it's based on the results of the table, as it should be. It means every one of the 8 games carries some meaning.
@@Thenormalyoutubertipsandtricks You still have to seed the pots so that every side faces roughly the same level of competition in the opening 8 games.
What really upsets me is the fans have no say, the vast majority don’t want this format. If your a City or R Madrid fans don’t watch the group stage you’ll qualify, if you are Liverpool/ arsenal don’t bother watching he first four games, live your life save your time and money on something else
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Rory Jennings being allowed a microphone is horrendous
And you've added a view and comment on one of his videos increasing the likelihood he continues to do so. So nice one 👍
That guy is complete fake
Exactly! 40 years old dude acts like a clown ffs
Change for the better hopefully, found ground stages boring and wouldn't watch til qtrs
He didn't say anything bad in this video
How is it horrendous?? We are getting some phenomenal matchups. City will face Juventus PSG Inter etc Liverpool will play Madrid Leverkusen Milan etc Arsenal vs Inter PSG etc. We are getting some great exciting games imo
We always did anyway! What was wrong with it before? It's a money grab, and segway into a super league.
@@notfirstyourlast100%. This is the reaction from it. Bring back group stage and away goals.
@diddyxl you mean integrity?. No meaning anymore, manufactured fixtures to get little kids excited, while they double their revenue. The reason these tournaments mean something is because every team has won it in the same format. Now? Forget it, you can't look at past winners and compare sides.
It’s much better & actually exciting. Ppl complaining doing it bc it’s default settings for them. As if the CL and football in general has not always been abt money? It’s always abt money
Scarcity sells. As great as the Olympics and world cup are, they would be ruined if it was annual. Same goes for the CL. It's beyond saturation. These great matches won't be played in from of full stadiums. As much as the CL is hyped, truth is no one cares about the CL till the last 16 in March.
Rory being an idiot as usual. Coefficients are meaningless. You get 2 teams from each pot. Regardless of what pot you are in.
Yes arsenal were lucky with the draw. But it had nothing to do with coefficients. Or what pot they were in.
Arsenal and city have similar draws from pot 1 and 2 so how is Arsenal singled out 😂
How is this horrendous? This is the most exciting the group stage have been! These two guys are one of the dumbest but the luckiest to have the chance to appear on a platform like this!
Not wishing to be a pendant but if you are a football commentator learn how to prounce a major historic European club correctly.
Juventus is pronounced with a silent "J".
Only downside of the new format is the increase from 32 to 36. The way this league is set however does look rather promising and far more interesting than the former group stage.
Will be more competetive now. I personally like the changes
It was great moment in football history to have UEFA make a fake award and give it to Ronaldo, so they can use him to push a button for 40 minutes.
😂😂😂😂
You must be sad inside. How can the award be fake when it is real?
Question is, he’s scored 140 goals. Do you think someone can catch him the next 5/6 yrs? Why not give him now cuz we all know nobody will.
@@Cesccyhaaland will with the extra 2 games before the round of 16 the guy has a goal ratio of more 1.+ per game
@@broman1429 Haaland has 41 goals. That’s 100 goals less.
Let’s just say, he scores 15/20 per season (new model gives him extra games) that’s 5 yrs from now minimum. Big if 😂.
I think it will actually be exciting the unpredictability, the old league stages were so predictable for who was going through
I don’t know, about this I think this massively favours the big clubs all the same, yes might be some surprises in the playoff rounds but pretty certain who’s gonna be the teams qualifying automatically for last 16, and I think this league format eliminates any chances for surprises at least for automatics
@@jorgeandrade783before top teams wouldnt play other pot 1 teams. Number 1 seeds had it even easier before
@@jorgeandrade783 How does it favor any side? Every side gets two opponents from each of the four pots randomly. The seeding comes in after the opening 8 games, where a side's position in the table determines its seed for the knockouts.
The group stages has been stale for a long time though.
Add.1 more team
8 groups
5 teams
8 games each
Anyone can be drawn in any group apart from teams from the same league! That's how we would have improved the CL this jew format sucks r
@@scottadams4655 fair enough I wouldn’t mind
@@scottadams4655you could get some really one sided groups. Some not worth it to watch while another could have most top teams in europe and some top teams going out way earlier then they should
Stale? How so?
@@notfirstyourlast clear gap bar the odd group “of death”
This guy is clueless, Milan harder than Leverkusen…shut up and get him off the air!
You just worry about Trabzonspur
Those guys barely watch European football, Milan probably the 2nd worst Italian team in the competition while Leverkusen a juggernaut nowadays especially they kept all their key players
This is much better what are you on about. More games the better and great match ups
It’s two more matches added to increase revenue in the "group stage." Just another example of money taking precedent over increasing fixture congestion at the very top level of the game. On another note, I’m creating my own football channel. I look forward to discussing the sport with more people going forward.
Not all changes are good changes and there should be something in process that we can go back to the old way after1 year of change
I wasn't a fan of the format, until I played it in FM23. I like it now & it gives smaller clubs a chance of getting through.
This is much better format; big games from the off, more games that matter and the knockout rounds are maintained. Let's be honest, in the old format there were only a handful of group and round of 16 games that were mouthwatering, especially for fans with no skin in the game. Don't let the Super League taint your opinion of this, this is not that, it's a meritocracy.
Not Horrendous at all, it will be much more fun now.. we play 8 different teams from europe now, instead of repeating the same 3 teams in the old format.. and it isn't complicated, top 8 go to quarters where they wait for the next 16 to play a knockout round to face them.
What's difficult to understand? And why is this worse than the group stage final games where teams play dead rubbers? I frankly think this format is exciting because every game means something with the final rankings from the opening phase determining the seedings for the knockout phase. (I am 100% disinterested as my club isn't in Europe this year.)
I absolutely love this new format! No more repeat games or boring group stage home and away matches. Exciting lineups
It's potentially a great thing. In paper we finally have big teams facing one another who'll be actively trying to win and not just trying not to lose like we see in the latter stages of all major tournaments.
talkSPORT, This made me so happy! I liked and subscribed!
lol… Arsenal and City have very similar draws from pot 1 and 2. How do they have a more favorable draw??
🤣🤣🤣
Like the new format. It is more competitive and interesting. The competition is not static inside each group, each team is competing against every other teams constantly. Every game and every goal will matter in this new format. I think we will see more exciting football in this new format. You can not just score a goal and sit back for the rest of the game. Or, play a boring 0-0 draw to survive the group stage.
champions league becoming more just for interests of big clubs especially now that some of those who don't qualify for final 16 don't drop into Europa League which just hurts the quality and prestige of that competition.
This is new format is good. The fans wants more games and smaller clubs get to have a lot of experience
They create this new elaborate system when all it really required was to make the group stage unseeded. Seeded groups in a competition with so many 'filler' teams was always going to be boring.
The only change is you play 2 teams from your own Pot. And you don't get dead rubbers and top teams resting players, so more jeopardy. January transfer window will become an issue, though.
Bang on, I was initially against it, now I’ve seen the draws ( arsenal fan ) I think it’s great, PSG at home? Inter away? Usually would have to wait till feb for those fixtures.
That’s the only change is it? What about the unknown situation of playing say Madrid at Home, while another team will only play them away? The whole draw, with CR7 hitting that button is open to corruption. It was simple before, now it’s far too over complicated and open to abuse.
He asked who got the hardest draw from the British teams
First he babbles on about how Arsenal got it easy
Then babbles on about how unkind it is for PSG
Do you even know the question?
shame they don't have more games on at 6pm. Strange to have more games yet play them at the same time.
Rory, you're complaining about the new format while laying out all the problems with the old format and the exciting elements the new format adds. Why can't you just say it?: it's a potentially much more exciting format.
If anything it should have gone back to a straight knock out competition.
The people running football are going to kill the game.
The way it's going football is going to die.
Theres only one way down from the top
The viewing numbers each year suggest otherwise. When viewers start leaving and television revenue drops, then you have a crisis.
😂dramatic much
@Robert.Sheard it will I know people who don't watch as much as they used.
Because of things like var,prices,changes within the game,etc
International football is already on the decline.
Most people only watch the major tournaments,
The villa loving does my head in. On what basis should they be coasting through. Did nothing in the ECL last season despite having the best squad on paper so why should they pull up any trees in CL
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This is as close to a european super league that youre going to get until you get it. But i dont mind the new format to be honest. It will make it more competitive because all teams need to play for three points.
9th to 24th playoff is pointless and a waste of time. Might is well do the top 16 that qualify instead which makes more sense. I would of changed the format to 32 teams 4 leagues of 8 clubs play 6 games 3 home 3 away and one less dead rubber top 4 qualify and bottom 4 for the knockout last 16 2 legs and do final 8 tournament end of the season like they did in 2020
Arsenal dodged a bullet, particularly given their PL fixtures following their CL matchweek.
Wow first time Rory spoke sense on this show 😮
I don't like. Much prefer the of format of European Cup when football was pure, winners of every league play each other in a knockout format, no 1st abd 2nds, no leagues.. Just pure knockout football amongst the very best in Europe and it wasn't all about money.
As Ade Oladipo said, and precisely what I have been saying, this is the start of the European Super League. The Premier League will be gone in a few years.
I like the new format. If the teams that are competing in them don't like it you have a youth squad?
I stopped watching his TH-cam channel because he doesn't make sense when he speaks .( Rorry) I don't know how he started again in Talksports. The new Champions league is a pure class. COMPLETE GAME CHANGER. FAR BETTER THAN THE OLD ONE. MAYBE HE IS JEALOUS BCUS CHELSEA ISN'T THERE.
you win your first four games teams will know they have qualified and start using reserves to concentrate on the league games and some matches become redundant... as for guaranteed 8 games plus maybe 4 in the league cup 4 -5 in the fa cup 38 league games nations league games world cup qualifiers plus friendlies you could be playing as many as 60 games if your a full international with out a break.. i thought that was the reason why cup replays were scrapped to ease the burden but no its just screwed the smaller claubs a chance of a big payday in order to shoe horn in more CL games at their expense
The hate these 2 have towards city is criminal! City has the hardest games and they never mentioned it! Clowns
"AC Milan are tough by name only."? He finds this format "horrendous"? LOL, where did Talksport get this Oladipo fellow from and make him a pundit? What a joke.
There are some big match ups, but this new format will only see a lot of dead rubbers by games 7 and 8.
Welcome to the European super league
I think it’s a great format. Slightly confusing but you are getting so many more big games up front. TH-camrs just like to complain to get more traction which is why people see through their bs
I hope all the good teams lose and they want to vote it back the old way that be well funny
I think it's brilliant group stages were boring outdated no one watched champions league til February and they've noticed it its all about viewers
talkSPORT, My guy, your channel is amazing. Let's collab!
It’s much better, definitely more competitive in the first phase.
All fixed. They choose the fixtures its not simulated
I like the matches but it's 2 confusing and the draws look like they can be tampered with.
They got there first step into a super league then…
much better format, not hard to understand.
Competition had went stale and boring , needs something to revamp it. Like the unpredictability of the fixtures also.
I think there was always a flaw in the group stage part entertainment wise, not that it became stale. You had 4 months of playing 3 teams twice, it becomes tedious where teams and fans are kind of going through the motions 4-6 games in it feels like from what i see. This also adds more of a surprise fixture element even though they’re laid out already that’s more exciting I think, like you get in the league. You’ll see fixtures week to week that pop up that look good while with the group stage format we know what matches are happening for 4 months.
The end of a great cup competition goodbye what a mess!!!!!!
It seems pretty exciting.
Send rory back to coronation street
Finish 24th and can win it😂😂
As a Canadian fan of European football, are these two 🤡 the best talksport can do?
This was difficult to listen too. I guess they earn their pay by infuriating real football fans with their asinine takes.
They don’t like it when their teams isn’t in it lol
Good one UCL
they won't be in it for a while too anyway, so they have nothing to worry about 😂😂
The greed is good cup
It's very easy to understand ngl
Bro let it cook
Rory is ignorant but very opinionated.
Arsenal are the Goliath?...g'way ya muppet. Inter and PSG...LMAO
Arsenal has no pedigree in Europe & struggling away vs the likes of Porto & PSG. Atalanta smacked Liverpool last season 4-1 & is no pushover at home. Inter even a class above, watched how they smashed Atalanta 4-0 last night, they are now a well oiled engine under Inzaghi in his 4th year in charge, fancy them to beat Arsenal in San Siro. If they drop 4 points vs the Italians away and draw PSG at home, almost certain they would go to the playoffs
We now have the super league 😂
I’m starting to hate this guys opinion…complete nonsense
No, got silly
It's terrible
Seeding or what pot you're in doesnt matter anymore.
Exactly can't see the point
After the first round it will. You will want to be top 8
@@junioradult6219 People aren't getting it. The whole point of pots before was you don't play teams in the same pot. So now you do. I agree after the first round it matters where you finish but whether you're pot 1 or pot 4 it doesn't matter.
Pots and seeding are pointless now
Yes and no. Seeding the pots is important so that the goal of every side having roughly equivalent difficulty in opponents over the eight games is possible. But the real seeding comes after the 8 games, and it's based on the results of the table, as it should be. It means every one of the 8 games carries some meaning.
@@Robert.Sheard but normally the pots meant you don't play someone in the same pot
@@Thenormalyoutubertipsandtricks yeah, but that wouldn’t be fair in this structure. Everyone gets two opponents from each pot.
@@Robert.Sheard exactly making the seeding pointless
@@Thenormalyoutubertipsandtricks You still have to seed the pots so that every side faces roughly the same level of competition in the opening 8 games.
What really upsets me is the fans have no say, the vast majority don’t want this format. If your a City or R Madrid fans don’t watch the group stage you’ll qualify, if you are Liverpool/ arsenal don’t bother watching he first four games, live your life save your time and money on something else
Crazy. Its way more competetive then before
I like it
What a load of shite
Chelsea wont be in it for long time so dont worry about it
Structure is absolutely stupid.
How about a reason why.
New format is utter garbage…. Just a money grab for uefa… stop expanding the competition… cut it back to 20 teams
Now......I see what Chelsea are doing.
The woke has officially taken our beautiful game from us.
Time to boycott.