These video's and the comments from foreigners have taught me how grateful I should be that we in The Netherlands have this type of infrastructure. Many Dutch people don't even realize how unique it is.
LeonHoogland Owhhhh man you are lucky. I would do anything to enroll to Delft Uni. Man the engineering, physics are top notch especially the design of water dam and renewable energy system. My country in equatorial (malaysia) but still use coal and fossil fuel as our main electrical generator. I would love to bike everywhere in Kuala Lumpur ( our capital state), but poor infrastructure and half bake cycling project and frequent misuse of bike land by motocyclist and car, making it impossible and practically suicide if cycling during rush hour. Damn if only some of neatherland magic rub off to our own politician.
Did anyone notice the rider wearing a helmet? Me neither. Not one. It's a different cycling culture, where normal people cycle in normal clothing, and are properly protected by good city planning. In less civilised countries it's understood that the public roads are for CARS, and cyclists use the roads at their own risk.
Paul Mackilligin Of course we don't wear helmets here, we know how to cycle properly. Also the drivers know what a cyclist is and how a cyclist will react to certain events, since they have rode a bicycle themselves.
Absolutely agree PierreBezemer. Bicycle helmets are probably good for young children, as they are particularly vulnerable to head injuries and tend to fall off more often, but there has been research that suggests that the more normal and 'human' a cyclist looks, the better car drivers behave around them, and the more space drivers give them when overtaking. Serious injuries on the road are because of cars, not bikes. Who has ever heard a cyclist being killed on a cycle path where no car was involved? If you're hit by a car, there is no way to predict what kind of injuries you may suffer. It depends on so many factors. A helmet may help, or it may not. The way to reduce road injuries and deaths is to normalise cycling, and helmets don't help with that. In some countries it has been suggested to make helmet wearing compulsory for cyclists.
Paul Mackilligin We Dutch have strict clothing regulations when it comes to cycling. For example grandmas can only wear dresses with gray flowers. They are in fact the ones protecting others by slowing down traffic. We can send some over if you have any problems.
Even with 5000 bike places it is still sometimes hard to find free space. Luckily they manage it. And bicycles are being removed that are not used. Otherwise it would be a bigger problem.
@@urie4769 It got too full, so there was a secondary storage hall, then that got too full too so they added additional racks outside on the sidewalk. "Build it, and they will come."
And here in Spain the government thinks in make a law to have obligatory insurance, pay taxes and have a license plate like a regular vehicle. And even deeper, with a obligatory helmet and reflective vest or the police give you a expensive ticket.
That's ridiculous. Cars and car drivers are licensed and insured and tested every year and all that because cars are really really dangerous. Bicycles are not dangerous. They don't have to be licensed and tested and insured because they don't kill people. Well, nothing's completely safe. A few people die every year by trying to put their trousers on while going downstairs.
Rodolfo, you talk about safety, as if that's something you care about, and then you advise people to go downhill at 70 kph on a bicycle. Why? Sure, if you are going to do such crazy dangerous stunts then you need a full face helmet, definitely with a visor to protect your eyes, and probably a leather motorcycle suit with steel reinforcements on knees and elbows, etc. And even then you won't be safe. Bicycle tyres and brakes are just not capable of stopping a bike going downhill at 70kph within a reasonable distance. But maybe, just maybe, most people just want to get from A to B safely and pleasantly while getting some good exercise, and are not interested in your circus skills. One reason I ride a fixed wheel bike is that it means I CANNOT go downhill fast. (Also it means I can ride further without getting tired.) I make myself safer on my bike through limiting my top speed mechanically and through making myself very visible with lots of bright lights, and by riding an upright bicycle where I can see and be seen easily. If people want to wear helmets, that's fine, and it sounds like you probably should be wearing one at all times, but for most people it's unnecessary.
As mentioned in the video: there is no guard. In the first few months since it was opened, already a few dozen bikes werd stolen. So.. Nice system to park bikes, but I would not park an expensive bike in there. Delft used to have a guarded place to park bikes. Hopefully that returns soon. The second issue is that the total nummer of available spaces, both inside and outside, is not sufficient to facilitate everyone who needs it.
can't you just lock it up? with thousands of bikes, thieves would just go search for ones that aren't locked, unless yours is a super sexy expensive one.
@@gwho Seeing that almost all dutch bicycles have a back wheel lock, somebody walking out with a bicycle while lifting up the back wheel would be very suspicious, and warrant an investigation.
Absolutely magnificent hypermodern train station. If only the services were a bit better tho. I'm sick and tired of going to Doner Company, AH to Go, Smullers and Kiosk at every single Dutch train station:D
the train stations are not to please foreigners or tourists. The train stations are there to serve the local people, and they dont complain, only tourists complain wich is ok, we dont bother with it. :)
odess4sd4d Very often there is no railing. A hundred meters from this station there are streets where you have to parallel park right next to the canal. No rail there either. It's very common in old cities with canals.
There is an hilarious video about that made by a comedian who have lived in the Netherlands : th-cam.com/video/BAnGYfnFz9I/w-d-xo.html And he is soooo right about it, "common sense" is a big part of our parental upbringing.
calinutzzz According to the sign at 0:30 it's free parking for 14 days. If you park longer than 14 days it's probably seen as a 'zwerffiets' (dumped bike) and removed
Dario Volarič Amsterdam is working on it, the parking there right now is a temporary location and will be replaced, there's going to be an underground bikeparking facility near the central station with space for 7000 bikes. There's also several other smaller parking facilities planned, among them one with space for 4200 bikes. In total by 2020 there should be space for 17.500 bikes in new facilities around the central station. Compared to the current total of 10.000.
Stumbling on this comment 4 years later: Either just remember the number (just like with some car parking) or note it down. I have also seen people just take a quick picture.
They're numbered yes, but parking in a hurry and forgetting to check the number has happened to me way too often! I've wandered the facility loads of times
***** Most Dutch bikes have just a wheel lock, google dutch wheel lock to see what I mean. But the more expensive bikes tend to have an extra padlock on top of that.
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inepthabit I supose you are from Netherlands. In Guadalajara leaving the byke with just a wheel lock is crazy.
***** In most of the larger cities in the Netherlands as well. Allmost all bikers use an exstra lock like this one static.webshopapp.com/shops/014766/files/004064165/pro-tect-zeer-sterk-beugelslot-verkrijgbaar-in-twe.jpg or like this hollandbikeshop.com/images_product_responsive/products_large/SL7240.jpg
***** I am. In Netherlands it depends on the location. About 800.000 bikes are stolen each year here, so it's not like bike theft isn't a problem. But an underground lighted bike parking with alot of people around and in a relatively safe student city like Delft is fairly safe for a bike. A bit different compared to let's say parking your bike outside in a city like Amsterdam or Rotterdam, there most people tend to use an extra lock. In my hometown I've never used anything more than a wheel lock, without any problems, but it's a different story with my work bike in Amsterdam.
inepthabit My mother saw someone cutting through such an additional lock 4 years ago at the bicycle stands next to a small train station. So it does happen, but very, very rarely. If you have a brand new bike with lots of features and (most importantly) of a good brand, then you either use multiple locks or just get a crappier one like the rest of us. Or you can paint it in vibrant, mismatched colors to make it so eye-catching that thiefs wouldn't bother. I've been using the last strategy for a few years in combination with extra locks and so far so good.
tfw my third ass world country major city is centuries away from this... ;_; development here is viewed as citizens with CARS, the whole transportation system is beginning to colapse
I just realised the whole country looks like a potemkin village (but isn't). I bet if you show around a north korean tourist handler here he will just think "mmm, they are better at showmanship and acting, I should take notes"
The people of Delft find the new station a monstrocety, the council wanted to destroy the monumental old station. The bicyle parking is to small anyway.
Here in Spain we have to wait for cheap electric bicycles for such a marvelous piece of art, there's a lot of mountains and hills :( Maybe Elon Musk with his gigafactory will drop battery prices...
Thor Mentha Are electric bikes not sold alot yet there due to price? 1 in 10 people has an electric bike in Netherlands and that number is quickly increasing, although it's mostly older people.
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These videos make me want to live in the Netherlands.
These video's and the comments from foreigners have taught me how grateful I should be that we in The Netherlands have this type of infrastructure. Many Dutch people don't even realize how unique it is.
yeah, me too
BUT did you try learning dutch?
yikes
Fraser McFadyen believe me you won’t
LeonHoogland Owhhhh man you are lucky. I would do anything to enroll to Delft Uni. Man the engineering, physics are top notch especially the design of water dam and renewable energy system. My country in equatorial (malaysia) but still use coal and fossil fuel as our main electrical generator. I would love to bike everywhere in Kuala Lumpur ( our capital state), but poor infrastructure and half bake cycling project and frequent misuse of bike land by motocyclist and car, making it impossible and practically suicide if cycling during rush hour. Damn if only some of neatherland magic rub off to our own politician.
@@gilamonster1e lol ok
It is inspiring... I'd really like to live in a city with that kind of development... I love riding bicycles :)!
Did anyone notice the rider wearing a helmet? Me neither. Not one. It's a different cycling culture, where normal people cycle in normal clothing, and are properly protected by good city planning. In less civilised countries it's understood that the public roads are for CARS, and cyclists use the roads at their own risk.
Paul Mackilligin Of course we don't wear helmets here, we know how to cycle properly. Also the drivers know what a cyclist is and how a cyclist will react to certain events, since they have rode a bicycle themselves.
Absolutely agree PierreBezemer. Bicycle helmets are probably good for young children, as they are particularly vulnerable to head injuries and tend to fall off more often, but there has been research that suggests that the more normal and 'human' a cyclist looks, the better car drivers behave around them, and the more space drivers give them when overtaking.
Serious injuries on the road are because of cars, not bikes. Who has ever heard a cyclist being killed on a cycle path where no car was involved? If you're hit by a car, there is no way to predict what kind of injuries you may suffer. It depends on so many factors. A helmet may help, or it may not. The way to reduce road injuries and deaths is to normalise cycling, and helmets don't help with that. In some countries it has been suggested to make helmet wearing compulsory for cyclists.
Paul Mackilligin Never used a helmet.. in the Netherlands is more strange to use it than not to use it..
Paul Mackilligin We Dutch have strict clothing regulations when it comes to cycling. For example grandmas can only wear dresses with gray flowers. They are in fact the ones protecting others by slowing down traffic. We can send some over if you have any problems.
PierreBezemer i'm jealous
Even with 5000 bike places it is still sometimes hard to find free space. Luckily they manage it. And bicycles are being removed that are not used. Otherwise it would be a bigger problem.
It's near impossible now
@@urie4769 It got too full, so there was a secondary storage hall, then that got too full too so they added additional racks outside on the sidewalk. "Build it, and they will come."
An American dream! Can you imagine this in NYC, SF, LA, etc?
Uncle Sam wouldn't like it. It is a danger for the petrodollar system! Uncle Sam needs cars!
João Pimentel Ferreira Uncle Sam is oil's bitch
NY and SF, maybe in 20 years.
LA, never
we don't have the money for this, it would cost billions!
Yeah....They would not be able to keep all those bikes in any of those cities unguarded...
Beautiful video Mark! "Lock before you lift," good to remember!
Having spent some time in Delft I can say the cycling in the area is fabulous.
And here in Spain the government thinks in make a law to have obligatory insurance, pay taxes and have a license plate like a regular vehicle.
And even deeper, with a obligatory helmet and reflective vest or the police give you a expensive ticket.
*****
Not yet, but they are thinking about make obligatory
How is safety a bad thing? Helmets and vest are purely safety for you and no one else
That's ridiculous. Cars and car drivers are licensed and insured and tested every year and all that because cars are really really dangerous. Bicycles are not dangerous. They don't have to be licensed and tested and insured because they don't kill people. Well, nothing's completely safe. A few people die every year by trying to put their trousers on while going downstairs.
Try going downhill at 70kmph
Rodolfo, you talk about safety, as if that's something you care about, and then you advise people to go downhill at 70 kph on a bicycle. Why?
Sure, if you are going to do such crazy dangerous stunts then you need a full face helmet, definitely with a visor to protect your eyes, and probably a leather motorcycle suit with steel reinforcements on knees and elbows, etc. And even then you won't be safe. Bicycle tyres and brakes are just not capable of stopping a bike going downhill at 70kph within a reasonable distance.
But maybe, just maybe, most people just want to get from A to B safely and pleasantly while getting some good exercise, and are not interested in your circus skills.
One reason I ride a fixed wheel bike is that it means I CANNOT go downhill fast. (Also it means I can ride further without getting tired.)
I make myself safer on my bike through limiting my top speed mechanically and through making myself very visible with lots of bright lights, and by riding an upright bicycle where I can see and be seen easily. If people want to wear helmets, that's fine, and it sounds like you probably should be wearing one at all times, but for most people it's unnecessary.
As mentioned in the video: there is no guard. In the first few months since it was opened, already a few dozen bikes werd stolen.
So.. Nice system to park bikes, but I would not park an expensive bike in there. Delft used to have a guarded place to park bikes. Hopefully that returns soon.
The second issue is that the total nummer of available spaces, both inside and outside, is not sufficient to facilitate everyone who needs it.
can't you just lock it up? with thousands of bikes, thieves would just go search for ones that aren't locked, unless yours is a super sexy expensive one.
even with guards, how will the guard know whether you're the owner or the thief?
@@gwho Seeing that almost all dutch bicycles have a back wheel lock, somebody walking out with a bicycle while lifting up the back wheel would be very suspicious, and warrant an investigation.
Nearly every train station in the Netherlands does have this kind of a system.. only the counting part is new..
Lovely video Mark.
Hey I think that 147th bicycle in row 12 had the same valve caps as my bicycle!
drie wiel Hehehe
But I'm not sure because I have bad eyesight.
drie wiel
Yeah, at that distance, I just start loosing mine too. :'D
drie wiel I'm quit sure it's not just your eyes which have gone bad.
Absolutely magnificent hypermodern train station. If only the services were a bit better tho. I'm sick and tired of going to Doner Company, AH to Go, Smullers and Kiosk at every single Dutch train station:D
rotterdam has a clothing shop
the train stations are not to please foreigners or tourists. The train stations are there to serve the local people, and they dont complain, only tourists complain wich is ok, we dont bother with it. :)
There's a second level now. If you ride through the facility you'll see it.
Those upper racks must become ever grimier, so how come neither sink nor hand drier is seen anywhere nearby there?
Update 27/12/2020: in October the parking facility was extended with 2500 parking spaces.
Algo surreal no Brasil...
Incredible!
Het is zo goed, om een video over mijn stad te zien :).
1:59 no railing next to the canal?
nope, i've been there myself a couple of times and you should watch out
+odess4sd4d No! Which Im impressed by considering I havent seen this in any other European country!!
odess4sd4d Very often there is no railing. A hundred meters from this station there are streets where you have to parallel park right next to the canal. No rail there either. It's very common in old cities with canals.
We learn to swim at a very young age. Most peole like to swim here, but it is necessary for safety reasons as well. We have a lot of water here...
There is an hilarious video about that made by a comedian who have lived in the Netherlands :
th-cam.com/video/BAnGYfnFz9I/w-d-xo.html
And he is soooo right about it, "common sense" is a big part of our parental upbringing.
Looks amazing
This place rocks!!!
Is it free of charge?
calinutzzz According to the sign at 0:30 it's free parking for 14 days. If you park longer than 14 days it's probably seen as a 'zwerffiets' (dumped bike) and removed
I've been there myself, It's really really big!
+pieceoftape It isn't bad really! I made a video too but not concentrating so much on the bicycle side of things... ;)
YvesyM i've seen your video, really cool to see! my school is like 3 minutes cycling, so i go there often to get starbucks and stuff
They got a second garage nowadys but sadly it's still too small ;P
They really have to hurry with the third garage.
Deft subway building Delft.
Is deze groter dan die van Haarlem CS?
***** het is ruimer opgezet dan in Haarlem, maar net zo veel fietsplaatsen (5000)
El futuro llego.. hace rato.
You can rent a OV-fiets. Verhelderend!
Amsterdam needs this...
Dario Volarič Amsterdam is working on it, the parking there right now is a temporary location and will be replaced, there's going to be an underground bikeparking facility near the central station with space for 7000 bikes. There's also several other smaller parking facilities planned, among them one with space for 4200 bikes. In total by 2020 there should be space for 17.500 bikes in new facilities around the central station. Compared to the current total of 10.000.
@@inepthabit Don't think it will open in 2020, but they're working on it right now! :D
@@mernisch8307 It opened!
Gaat lekker zo met de views.
How do you remember exactly where you parked your bicycle?
Kristofer Aron Gunnarsson you just remember it, and if you are smart, you park it everyday at around the same spot.
Each parking place is numbered. Just note the number of your parking place and row and you should be set up :).
We have a app for that. Same with cars.
Stumbling on this comment 4 years later: Either just remember the number (just like with some car parking) or note it down. I have also seen people just take a quick picture.
I would never remember where I parked my bike.
They are numbered. And every bike is unique so you will recognise your own bike when you see it. Even our elderly are able to find their bikes again.
They're numbered yes, but parking in a hurry and forgetting to check the number has happened to me way too often! I've wandered the facility loads of times
After 4 Duvels, its real easy to remember.
@@luukvandenbeemt4104 have you found a solution for that? ☺
@@finnkdy After 4 Duvels you shouldn't be worrying about it.
No padlock?
***** Most Dutch bikes have just a wheel lock, google dutch wheel lock to see what I mean. But the more expensive bikes tend to have an extra padlock on top of that.
inepthabit I supose you are from Netherlands. In Guadalajara leaving the byke with just a wheel lock is crazy.
***** In most of the larger cities in the Netherlands as well. Allmost all bikers use an exstra lock like this one static.webshopapp.com/shops/014766/files/004064165/pro-tect-zeer-sterk-beugelslot-verkrijgbaar-in-twe.jpg or like this hollandbikeshop.com/images_product_responsive/products_large/SL7240.jpg
***** I am. In Netherlands it depends on the location. About 800.000 bikes are stolen each year here, so it's not like bike theft isn't a problem. But an underground lighted bike parking with alot of people around and in a relatively safe student city like Delft is fairly safe for a bike. A bit different compared to let's say parking your bike outside in a city like Amsterdam or Rotterdam, there most people tend to use an extra lock. In my hometown I've never used anything more than a wheel lock, without any problems, but it's a different story with my work bike in Amsterdam.
inepthabit My mother saw someone cutting through such an additional lock 4 years ago at the bicycle stands next to a small train station. So it does happen, but very, very rarely. If you have a brand new bike with lots of features and (most importantly) of a good brand, then you either use multiple locks or just get a crappier one like the rest of us. Or you can paint it in vibrant, mismatched colors to make it so eye-catching that thiefs wouldn't bother. I've been using the last strategy for a few years in combination with extra locks and so far so good.
in estonia you can take bike on train
You can take the bike on the train too here in the Netherlands. Just not in the rush hour ofcourse.
Michelium only folding bikes, otherwise you pay €6.
If every dutch person would take their bike on the train it would become a complete chaos 😂
How much does it cost to park your bike?
Usually free for the 1st 24 hours. After that around 1 euro a day
@@thierrylei62 Actually it's free for 2 weeks, after that your bicycle is presumed lost and get's removed
Well done HOlland
you lead the world in cycling.
Should have been China but the Germans sold them too many cars....
Everybody can pick a nicer bike if they want to... right?
How would that work ? You dont have the key, beside its not your property so hands off.
Ah, Thats where our stolen 800.000 bikes are. You stole them all ? :)
First time I see that
So normal for me that i was kind of surprised that for people from other countries it is sort of special :P
+tieskei Did I do a good job in my video on the station?! I would be curious to know as I am IRISH :D
YvesyM Yes you did :)
Aquí en México se roban las bicicletas
Work good
3:38 That has to be an American I hear!
Walking Zed's Push Bike Nope. ;)
"Whoa waar zijn ze helemaal" (~whoa, where are they all)
keokiracerhalsteren
I would have placed a bet that it was a coach load of them, I mean us.
bicicletario muinto top em amigão a dorei
tfw my third ass world country major city is centuries away from this... ;_; development here is viewed as citizens with CARS, the whole transportation system is beginning to colapse
I just realised the whole country looks like a potemkin village (but isn't). I bet if you show around a north korean tourist handler here he will just think "mmm, they are better at showmanship and acting, I should take notes"
modernist buildings are horrible af tho
True that
the only bad part of it is that the new station is very ugly
I just wonder what standard it is built to or if it is one of these modern energy sieves.
The people of Delft find the new station a monstrocety, the council wanted to destroy the monumental old station. The bicyle parking is to small anyway.
Speak for yourself
im from the netherlands, and did not hear people complain. You must be an overseas jaleous critic. :)
I'll give it 2 years before the fences are lined with abandoned bikes and you can't even walk on the fucking sidewalk anymore
Sorry fella, dutchies are smarter than that
*****
Trust me
...I live there
bicycles are removed when they're not moved for some time
you can park for a maximum of 2 weeks. Any longer and your bicycle is gone 1:46
when you dont pick up your bike after 2 weeks it gets removed and destroyed. to keep numbers under control
Here in Spain we have to wait for cheap electric bicycles for such a marvelous piece of art, there's a lot of mountains and hills :( Maybe Elon Musk with his gigafactory will drop battery prices...
Thor Mentha Are electric bikes not sold alot yet there due to price? 1 in 10 people has an electric bike in Netherlands and that number is quickly increasing, although it's mostly older people.
Well, at Madrid there is a new public service of electric bikes that could make us aware of his convenience.
Proud to be dutch
i like my bicycles like i like my woman
Stacked !
is there a separate parking area for cargo bikes and bakfiets?