Media-enabled Sociopathy in Gone Girl | Psychology of a Scene

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  • A critical video essay about a key psychologically-driven point most people have missed about Gone Girl.
    For research & educational purposes only.
    Music
    Clue One - Trent Reznor & Atticus Ross
    Films TV Shows shown (in no particular order)
    Gone Girl
    Se7en
    American Psycho
    The Shawshank Redemption
    Taxi Driver
    Nightcrawler
    The Hater
    True Detective
    Breaking Bad
    2001: A Space Odyssey
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  • @Tommykey07
    @Tommykey07 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +222

    I noted how the Nancy Grace type character in Gone Girl played a big part in changing the media narrative of the Nick and Amy story. First she latches onto the "Nick killed Amy" angle, but once Amy is revealed to be alive, she suddenly pivots to demonizing Desi. It made me think about how the masses can be manipulated by what the media tells them.

    • @teddyf3960
      @teddyf3960 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Yess, we truly see it all the time.

    • @ChrisNoonetheFirst
      @ChrisNoonetheFirst 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Literally how the Republicans got us to invade Iraq

    • @brokencandy1797
      @brokencandy1797 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      Another layer to that is that both Ben and Desi have done SOMETHING wrong; they aren't "innocent" but they also aren't guilty of the things they've been stitched up for. The media can't or won't grasp onto the concept of two things being true, that the subject may be a deeply flawed person but still NOT the villain of the story you're telling. It's better for the narrative to have convenient labels lying around and assume that the particulars of a situation follows the usual tropes.

    • @randomnyss2011
      @randomnyss2011 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      media never cares about anything, other than TRPs. and of course money minting and having power behind the scene.

    • @pipermccool
      @pipermccool 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@brokencandy1797 Dumbing down the situation makes it more digestible for the mass audience.

  • @SkipTeppins
    @SkipTeppins ปีที่แล้ว +190

    Great perspective on how the media was a character in Gone Girl. To me, I was considering it a setting, but in truth, it reacted with agency and desires, so it's more of a character.

  • @INXS1985
    @INXS1985 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +61

    I also feel the casting was trying to leverage our already preconceived ideas of who the actors are in real life. Casting Ben, NPH, Pike, and Perry all felt extremely deliberate, like Kubrick levels of deliberate

  • @paxwallace8324
    @paxwallace8324 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    Who ever played Nick's sister boy she knocked it outa the park ! I mean it's impossible to scene steal in the Same film with Rosamund Pike but she did a bit.

  • @kokomanation
    @kokomanation 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    This film reminded me a lot of American beauty in a very different way .How different people are inside vs what they all appear to be.And the media play a huge role.

  • @angelocardonesinger
    @angelocardonesinger 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +70

    Very good video.
    I would recommend playing more with the background music: for the whole duration of the video I had the feeling there was an alarm clock nobody was turning off.

    • @cathryncampbell8555
      @cathryncampbell8555 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @angelocardonesinger: Yes -- I almost gave up on the video because the repetitive background sound was so jarring. The narrator's silken voice needs no accompaniment.

  • @Maerahn
    @Maerahn 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

    Can I make a point of constructive criticism about the production of this video, please? No hate or shade, just something you might want to consider for future videos.
    I'm hearing-impaired; I wear hearing aids in both ears. *I could barely hear a word of this video,* due to the 'boop-boop'-y xylophone music in the background; I don't know if it actually WAS at the same volume as your speaking voice, but it might as well have been for me. Certain 'background' music tracks are VERY problematic for hearing aid users - the Wii theme tune is another one that causes issues - because certain tones and qualities in the sound can either blur into or 'cancel out' certain pitches and tones in speaking vocals, making it incredibly difficult for those with hearing problems to separate the two and figure out what someone is actually saying. This is less of a problem when the person speaking is doing so facing the camera (many of us are lip-readers, although that still requires a level of concentration that can be exhausting over more than about ten minutes or so) but for a video consisting entirely of voice-over.... impossible, I'm afraid.
    It's a pity, because I could tell from your captions that the content made good points that I would've been interested to have heard properly. Again, this is not meant to be a shade comment, just a small heads-up that you might want to think about for future videos.

    • @sweetcheeks5775
      @sweetcheeks5775 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      i’m not hearing impaired and it bothered me too. the music is louder than his voice

  • @johnhein2539
    @johnhein2539 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    David Fincher has an obsession with "world-manipulators." It's there in Se7en, The Game, Fight Club, The Social Network, and Gone Girl.

  • @mclare71
    @mclare71 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

    Great video! Maybe dial the music back? It was a bit distracting and your content is super engaging. 🙏

  • @tlgaoztrk
    @tlgaoztrk 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    We can no longer have any media analysis without using the word 'discourse.' This word is so heavily used, it lost its spark. I now take it as a hazy idea in absence of an argument

  • @ivy2007
    @ivy2007 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    This was a good video I hope you make a longer one in the future going more in depth into Gone Girl or other Gillian Flynn works.

  • @tchrisou812
    @tchrisou812 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This was brilliant. I'm a subscriber now. I enjoyed reading the comments too. Thank you for your work and insight.

  • @Princessofthedrk
    @Princessofthedrk 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I apologize, I was interested in watching but because there are no captions and I'm hard of hearing, I can't watch.

  • @lipsrshield
    @lipsrshield 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +139

    I agree with most of this but i think the idea behind amy dunnes relatability towards audiences being about her redeemable qualities is misguided… most discourse around amy and the whole ‘cool girl’ speech centres on how shes not actually redeemable at all, but she is more of a victim then nick is. Whilst her personality disorder makes her irrational and violent, nick is happy to enjoy her when she placates herself and acts as his own slutty cool girl. Shes not a good person, but she is an extreme reaction of the real feeling women have when they give everything to a man (whether genuine or not) and he still wont respect her.

    • @brokencandy1797
      @brokencandy1797 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

      I got very annoyed with some media applauding Amy as a feminist heroine. Amy doesn't care about women as a group; Amy views other women as either competitors, pawns, or inferiors. Some of Amy's victims are also women. She's just as happy to use sexist tropes to her advantage as she is to evoke hollow sentiments of "empowerment". In truth, Amy has no particular convictions.

    • @jooliagoolia9959
      @jooliagoolia9959 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      @@brokencandy1797 Totally agree, and I'll add...no convictions except to herself. She bathed in being the attention of her parents having a twisted view of her enough to make books and be the victim of them in her mind. Ohhh poor me, she did better...but by Amy doing them, she enjoyed people's admiration of who they thought she was. She accepted their money with their home and lifestyle. She found a man whom would put up with her and also keep quietly resenting her like she did her parents. She didn't want to stay gone, or she would have watched him rot in prison with her completely independent life. She could have written her ticket anywhere, but took the teeny tiny bait with the watch on his wrist. A dramatic reunion would cement him to her with a baby on the way. Sick people are like a cult. There's only their way and it keeps getting sicker and sicker. LOVE this movie and it's layers about all kinds of dysfunctional people.

    • @sabrinam2894
      @sabrinam2894 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      She's a victim of her parents at best. She's a textbook narcissist. As soon there were difficulties in the marriage she got disappointed at Nick for not continuing to be "perfect" and up to her standard. Remember that all the scenes where he's shown as irresponsible are only from her perspective which is clearly warped.
      It's sad if women relate to what you're saying because it literally means women aren't honest or themselves at all ever.

    • @jooliagoolia9959
      @jooliagoolia9959 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@sabrinam2894 I'll say she's a psychopath because they know how to make people like them and play games. Narcissists see only from their own perspectives without the possibility of insight. They also don't care what others think, where the psychopath on purpose ensnares others to aid in their quest without the other person even realizing possibly ever they were used and abused.

    • @brokencandy1797
      @brokencandy1797 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      @@sabrinam2894 Yes, I agree. Nick is hardly a knight in shining armor but he's not really THAT bad of a person nor particularly misogynistic. I don't believe in or support marital infidelity but it's also a very prosiac human folly. I understand the motivation to seek validation and affection elsewhere when you aren't getting it from your partner. It's a poor choice but it doesn't make you evil. Amy, on the other hand, routinely frames innocent people for crimes they didn't commit for the simple act of threatening her ego in some way, intentionally or not. Not to mention, murder. Cheering Amy's actions as righteous female revenge is a flat out dumb take, as is framing her as a hero because of one good monologue.

  • @jezuzfreekjklol
    @jezuzfreekjklol 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Why are subtitles not an option 😭😭 I can’t hear it

  • @JDdr86
    @JDdr86 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    How come this hasn't gotten more views?!

  • @ViciousDelicious-td8jl
    @ViciousDelicious-td8jl 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    The fbi agents completely looking past her duper's delights grins and how comfy she is covered in her "rapist's" blood.

  • @dwaynesbadchemicals
    @dwaynesbadchemicals 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The point of Gone Girl is that Rosamund is hot as hell.

  • @ReebSheeb
    @ReebSheeb 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I just love Amy so much.

  • @degalan2656
    @degalan2656 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    What I noticed, is that where poverty is more and more norm, one gets more, what they call, disorders… you feel me?

    • @tomkat69pc
      @tomkat69pc 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      a deeper explanation would be helpful though ..
      .

    • @degalan2656
      @degalan2656 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Folk have an obsession with the macabre it’s frightfully mundane @@tomkat69pc

  • @ivanpeloza8462
    @ivanpeloza8462 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Amazing deep analizyng of gone girl. media as a character, Amy as one And Nick as antagonist of movie 😍

  • @behindthepageaudiobooks
    @behindthepageaudiobooks 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    This is a good video, but if it were longer it would have been a great video. You should have taken the time to explain the connection between the information in the studies you cite and how the media manipulated the general public perception's of the missing wife case in Gone Girl.

  • @altovisa5691
    @altovisa5691 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Background music is sooooo hypnotic.

  • @mrridikilis
    @mrridikilis 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great video, great insights. Music is too loud and distracting

  • @RicebeheaderPat
    @RicebeheaderPat หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Nobody:
    This guy: Gaangaah

  • @missfireandice1
    @missfireandice1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The background music is way too loud, but what I could hear sounded really interesting.

  • @La_br00tal_mija
    @La_br00tal_mija 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Notice how he didn’t say “iTs A MusIc BaSeD SubCuLtUrE” like the gatekeeper hold onto with a vice grip.

  • @gaslighte7965
    @gaslighte7965 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    amy dunne awakened something in me

  • @is15land
    @is15land 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    nice video.

  • @kaspermigi9456
    @kaspermigi9456 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I believe those parasites are way more detrimental than sociopaths.

    • @wabi_sabi52
      @wabi_sabi52 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Is broadcasting evil worse than perpetrating it?

    • @Ana-iy8hq
      @Ana-iy8hq 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They are much more abundant so my answer is yes. That's why I loathe hypocrisy more than evil. The power lies in the first.

  • @SawII565
    @SawII565 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Does Peter Quinn qualify as a psychopath or sociopath? Just because it was a girl doesn’t make it different. You have times in your life where you are a (insert psychological word) because you had something very strange happen whether it be a near death experience or violent attack or stumbled upon something strange that you literally don’t know what to do. I heard a psychologist say you can go back to the way you were before.

  • @jenniferlewis3312
    @jenniferlewis3312 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'd love to know who the narrator is here. The voice is so familiar, like I know him in real life. Can anyone enlighten me!

  • @patrickvalentino600
    @patrickvalentino600 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    ADJECTIVES and ADVERBS

  • @mskavs1924
    @mskavs1924 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    POLAND! POLAND MENTIONED! BRING THE PIEROGIS!

  • @Unsustainable_Games
    @Unsustainable_Games 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i am sorry but Amy has no apparent lack of emotional intelligence... She has acute awareness of the feelings of others and herself, she just doesn't care about those feelings... that is why she is so good at manipulating...

  • @raymondspogo
    @raymondspogo 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Quick question. Are sociopaths labelled "Anti-social" because they are not part of society, or because they are against society?

    • @kendrickdinger
      @kendrickdinger 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It’s more like they don’t have any empathy or remorse like “normal” members of society - they are the opposite of what typical members of society are like as far as human emotion if that makes sense

    • @raymondspogo
      @raymondspogo 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kendrickdinger so not a part of society.

    • @queenelizabee7246
      @queenelizabee7246 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Apathetic. Simply put their brains don’t react to the same stressors. It varies of course but I don’t think it’s a comprehension issue so much as it’s an emotionally disregulated disorder, not feeling 24/7 or minimal emotions thru out life must feel like depression.

    • @carlospomares3225
      @carlospomares3225 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Anti-social people do not care how their actions effect other people and do not have empathy for others. All they care about is how they gain from a situation and feel no remorse for the people that they hurt. They can be very sociable but only use social interaction as another way to get things for themselves.
      An Asocial person is someone who can socialize but do not go out of their way to do so.
      Hope this helps!

  • @Catwitchtarot
    @Catwitchtarot 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Your background music is louder than your voice and compete for attention.

  • @eslut
    @eslut 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I have ASPD offically diagnosed with papers and years of tests, and i can promise you... well not really but. No actually this is something i'd do for someone i love.

    • @KD-ou2np
      @KD-ou2np 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Why

    • @cl5470
      @cl5470 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Because you don't actually love, you possess. It's different.

    • @cyb3rstalker
      @cyb3rstalker 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      goofy ass

  • @Pinkranger87
    @Pinkranger87 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    It weird how many women have tried to do what Amy has done but the difference between Amy and the real life counterparts is a movie is its story, and Amy doesn't make any mistakes, the problem with real life. There's social media, friend's and Family. We have seen these women try to do this and comes back to bite them in the ass

    • @theimplications635
      @theimplications635 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      "many women" I can think of like one or two who tried to do something *sort of* similar. the whole point of amy is she's a man's irrational fear of a crazy bitch that doesn't exist. the fear of false allegations personified. the whole point is she *doesn't* exist.

  • @bookofkatherine
    @bookofkatherine 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Who says it is fiction?

  • @tabathaterry2998
    @tabathaterry2998 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This guy completely missed the point. Patriarchy removed them from their humanity and the characters value and seek out that humanity.

  • @CyberChrist
    @CyberChrist 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'd be wary of any woman liking the poor movie.

  • @reddnacpil4420
    @reddnacpil4420 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    modern rashomon

  • @clayformations1638
    @clayformations1638 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I could be wrong but i feel the celebration for the me too movement for one and not another... is a creation to keep celebrities in line? The me too movement could beca tool to eliminate those they don't want around?

  • @macrograms
    @macrograms 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Let me tell you something amazing about TH-cam thumbnails.
    You can easily cause people to block your channel by calling them stupid.

  • @ikramkhaled2546
    @ikramkhaled2546 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m not gonna kill I’m muslim non Muslim only think of jil we think of god before but distroying his reputation like she didillook nice

  • @itosart
    @itosart 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Colour me amber

  • @normadesmond6017
    @normadesmond6017 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    a wonderful, wonderful book. The movie is good, but it could have been better with another leading lady.

  • @christinesentman5437
    @christinesentman5437 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Gone Girl is the How to Get Revenge on your cheating husband.

  • @Gnomeybone
    @Gnomeybone 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    No, it's just a really bad movie. :/

  • @jackharle1251
    @jackharle1251 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How is England doing with the innocent refugees?

  • @PassionataDance
    @PassionataDance 2 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    Amber heard is the real life Gone girl.

    • @aphexlane
      @aphexlane 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Only way dumber.. it’s terrifying

    • @nettewilson5926
      @nettewilson5926 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      No

    • @macfilms9904
      @macfilms9904 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      I don't think so - the psychiatrist diagnosed her with Histrionic personality disorder and Borderline personality disorder - not with sociopathy. And Johnny may be more charming, but with his (alleged) cocaine and alcohol problems, it doesn't sound like he's a dream partner either.

    • @starla.
      @starla. 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      I think I understand what you mean. Amber constantly set her husband up to take a fall, pushed his buttons, escalated situations, ruthlessly used the media against him, and painted herself as a “victim.” The goals were different, but there are definitely similarities.

    • @pathetic2399
      @pathetic2399 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@nettewilson5926 Almost.