In 2022, after owning Tombi 2 The Evil Swine Return for well over 20 years I finally beat both the Kujara washing AND the Trolley minigames. Proudest gaming moment of my life. Unfortunately it also reminds me I'm not good at video games.
I've also been playing for 20+ yrs and still can't beat the trolly quests >< maybe someday I will, but the remaster of 2 will prob be released well before i manage to beat it, on the original disc. Then again I can't beat the race in the 1st game, either, so it's not a surprise.
I remember playing the demo back in 2001 with the demo disk that came with MediEvil and I really enjoyed it but I also remember going to Central Park trying to find the game but never could, it wasn't until 2013 that I experienced the full Tombi game after buying it on PSN and I still love this gem to this day :)
@@MissMaryanne1 Many such cases. The amount of people who only ever experienced this game through the demo are probably 20x the amount of units the game actually sold. It seemed so obnoxiously hard to find even when it was new.
@@Superhands92 It definitely is a game that is well suited to shorter sessions. When I first got my PS Vita it was one of the first games I transferred over from my PS3
I was doing some digging around PC version (which fortunately worked for me day 1 and I even managed to get all achievements). The problem with modern soundtrack is because it's not played "by the game" but "by the emulator". OG soundtrack plays directly from the game emulated files, just like you would run the original disc or it's image on emulator/console. Modern OST works by muting the OG one, and playing external music file (kinda like a music player) via triggers based on the game's memory changes - hence for example, the music starts on the loading screen, because the area change trigger happens when the area starts to load. Also, very nice video.
@@ludekcortex I figured that was the case. About a day before I uploaded this there was a patch for the PC version which fixed the issue with tracks playing on loading screens and SOME areas playing the wrong tracks. Hopefully they'll all be amended and have the fix on all platforms before long.
@@CozyCornPop dude I’m waiting on payday!! It’s gonna be UP ⬆️ when I get this. And I’m getting a PlayStation controller!! I’ve been waiting for this moment all my life
@@KarimJovian Well thanks! I'm glad some people enjoy listening to me because hours of having to listen to myself in audio editing has not made me any more fond of my own voice 😅
@@Ler0yJenk1ns I have a few ideas for projects in mind, but my creative motivation is fickle so I don't wanna go naming anything to get people's hopes up and then just never doing it. Might try and at least get some more smaller things out where possible before tackling any multi-hour projects again.
Thank you for giving an honest and fair review of this version. I'm pitifully broke, but I covet the Whoopee edition, so I'm avoiding grabbing the digital release right away, to allow myself to just barely afford to treat myself. Utter coincidence, but pre-orders end on my birthday. With any luck they'll wait long enough to drop the sequel for my finances to recover somewhat. I'm among those who played the demo growing up, but had to wait for the PS3 to play the whole thing. The sequel will be entirely new to me, as my old PS3 died before the sequel dropped there.
Really appreciate this video. Loved Tomba 1&2 as a kid like many. Still have my original PS1 copies. I was hesitant to purchase this given LRG's track record and after diving into the Steam discussion forums around release. Just about every TH-cam video I skimmed over covering this release was extremely surface with people who had very little experience with the originals. Not the case with you!!! Grabbed a pre-order for the switch version. Fingers crossed the issues are ironed out before print but it'll be nice just to have all the same for the gallery mode. Going to probably do a run on duckstation in the meantime. Looking forward to any coverage you do regarding the Tomba 2 port whenever that drops.
@@deathgripssan6159 You can bet Tomba 2 will get the same coverage. Will definitely be interested to see how that one is handled between the sometimes wonky emulation that can come from it, the divide between ENG and JP soundtracks, and what there may be in terms of concept art we've never seen
For what it's worth I played through the Steam version this week and had zero issues. No crashes, performed perfectly, and the new QOL made it a joy to play through. I liked all of the different options in regards to screen size and thought the CRT filter was a nice touch. I wished there was new content like new quests or areas, but as far as a port of an old game with QOL, it was fantastic. No complaints with the PC port for me.
Wow. Finally found someone on TH-cam who actually experienced how Tomba! Special Edition's Steam Port refused to work. (At time of posting, it still doesn't for most people.)
@@DrSmug-yj9ot It's really not something that should be glossed over. Whether your game has a bunch of issues or not, a game you paid for actually being able to start should be the bare minimum.
Cool! I was looking forward to a video of first impressions of the Special Edition from you. They should have gotten you as a beta tester/quality assurance.
Well, never expected to see another Tombi! video from you after two big retrospectives... ...crazy times we live in, huh? Eh, I preordered LRG's special physical edition of 1, I'll probably do the same with 2 (even though I DESPISE LRG)... bought the originals for an equivalent of $150, so... might as well go all in. Thanks for reminding me of my bad life decisions.
First time viewer, excellent video! I played through Tomba PS5 for the first time over the release weekend and had an excellent time for the most part. I grew up playing Tomba 2, but never had a chance to play the first. Like you said, the rewind feature was very welcome for the more brutal sections of the game like Phoenix Mountains and the GoKart time trial. Unfortunately I only got 124 of the events completed, due to not knowing some of them are permanently missable if you defeat the Forest Pig before doing the seed quest for the Dwarf kid. I adored the original soundtrack, it's been stuck in my head all week. Knowing LRG, it's a long shot that Tomba 2R will release in a much cleaner state than Tomba 1R, but I'm cautiously optimistic. Side note: I'm honestly relieved someone else mentioned the audio glitches Tomba 2 has when emulated or on PS3 Classics. I felt like I was going crazy, no one else was mentioning it online! Audio also doesn't play properly on burned CDs on actual PS1 hardware, so there has never quite been a viable way to play Tomba 2 without audio issues outside of spending $80+ on a rare real copy. Cheers!
@@Tsumugi_Kotobuki PS3 emulation of the second game was always strange. My physical copy of the PAL version would never loop music and instead play a distorted version of another track on the CD. The digital release that MonkeyPaw Games did worked fine, so I wasn't sure if the NTSC version was issue-free or just that version they worked on for the PSN.
I've been working through the PS3 digital store PS1 classics Tomba 2, and typically what happens is the area music loop completes, and then for about 1 second a different area's music kicks in before the game corrects it back to the correct area's music. It's definitely jarring, but much better than the distorted issues I've had with other emulated versions.
Haven't finished/played a video game in years. Only Owned the demo as a kid and replayed it to death.. I completed this game after a long hiatus, i really enjoyed it. Wouldn't have been able to without a guide or rewind function, im getting old.. Almost got 100% but missed out 3 events.. Im now considering tales of symphonia as my next game... another childhood favourite of mine or vampire masquerade, never played but i hear good things
That instant accelleration of the grey/white form of Tombi looks absurd. I often decided not to use it in the original because I preferred precission over speed. I would not be able to handle this version at all
I’m very happy this game was re-launched. I had it on ps1 after playing it on the demo but lost it over time. At some point I talked about it with a friend and felt that urge of playing it again. I thought of checking it online and the price was over the roof. So I’m glad this happened and only cost me $20 instead of $200 or more
Played through it on pc day of release. Didn't have the launch issues you did. I've only ever played it on PlayStation/CRT so the differences really stand out to me. The biggest one for me is the input, doesn't feel right. You're right about inputs held before text boxes. The first time you swing on a branch the tutorial message pops up, if you're holding a direction and advance the text it will cause tombi to jump off the branch when it disappears.
@@SumoGauntlet Glad your Steam copy treated you better than mine did. Also absolutely, that bit on the branch on the way up to Charles was what caught me off the first time.
Great vid, may have swayed my choice to pay up if I'd seen it before hand! I bought the pc version early.. I had 2 requiremments - widescreen with a proper aspect ratio (ultrawide would have been ideal for me but I would have settled) and for the load times to have been addressed, especially thinking of the haunted mansion. So I got a refund and went back to playing the ps1 original which I got as a kid, on a free emulator.
well I do feel the one with soundtrack starting in the loading screen instead after. makes a big difference. I cant believe trophies are glitched. I ordered my physical game, but it seems I have to wait a year for it, awesome
Just finished the game on PC 100% yesterday. Although there were some minor audio issues and lag on the north half of the haunted mansion, everything other than that was smooth sailing.
Howzit Bluekunai, I watched your other Tombi video, not in full mind you. I know you're a fellow Kiwi, and for some reason this game and that infamous Winter Release Demo really struck a chord with my age group, I'm 36 next month. Met a few other Kiwi Tombi fans since. I was fortunate I hired the original Pal Tombi from the Video source in Whakatane, and clocked it back in 99? All I remember is that I didn't complete all the missions back then, like the mushroom missions etc. But what a ride this game was at the time. Anime was already scarce at the time, I remember playing that demo FMV over and over again, in my mind I thought there was a Tombi Anime or Movie haha. One trip we made when travelling between Tauranga and Auckland, I want to say it was Cambridge or Hamilton!? I can't remember, but Farmers had a copy of Tombi 2 for sale on their shelves, I immediately purchased it. When I got back to Whakatane, I played the crap out of that game, and I believe I got nearly every single achievement, except the upside down buckets at the beginning of the game. Since then I've mastered both games on Emu. You can get the game looking really clean with some of the plugins, as per personal prefrence. My guilty pleasure is the East West Intro 'No Sweat' that use to get me hyped AF as a kid to jam some Tombi. What a time to be a gamer, and how much fun was had within these creative worlds, I loved the cast of characters colour and art styles, it was so fresh and new. The PS1 era was truely the golden age of gaming for us.
@@Shinreetlegna I love how universal an experience it is that so many people played the demo of Tombi 1 to death because copies of the full game were basically non-existent. I have vague memories of seeing a copy of the first game in a Kmart, but I would've been 5 at the time so I might be imagining it. I ended up getting Tombi 2 as a gift around launch because my dad saw how much I loved playing the demo of the first game.
@@Shinreetlegna I don't really do social media anymore, but if you hit up Tomba Club on Twitter or Discord the folks there will be happy to have you. The Discord even has a dedicated art channel
This is the kind review I was expecting :D Other than FMVs playing twice or the new soundtrack playing on loading screens, it runs good on the steam deck OLED. Hopefully they'll irone out the rest of the details before the physical edition comes out - which can take a really long time
@@ekuseru I've seen some speculate that the PC release may have been made more with the Deck in mind since they're all the same hardware. Differing systems are certainly the biggest hurdle with developing for PC, especially for the poor souls like myself that can't even get the game running 😅
Just started playing this through emulation last week since i never finished it as a kid. Was completely unaware there was a rerelease around the corner 😂
I have played the PS1 version to death. I can confirm the glitch that shifts you up the pillar from the bottom on stormy mountain was in the original too. So any others that are found are likely not new.
@@SuileaGorma I've played through this game a couple dozen times at this point. There's a pretty good chance I've run into it before and completely forgot about it.
Awesome video as always, I can already tell you, the soundtrack playing during loading screens and the wrong tracks being played at some locations has been fixed (On pc that is, the patches need to be greenlit on the consoles) The pants achievement will be fixed in a future patch. Also, if you change the in game language to any EU one the game changes to Tombi. It's still amazing this re-release even happend, and we will get more info on the Tomba 2 re-release next year!
@@Folk1n It's been nice to see the folks in the Discord so actively reporting any anomalies, so hopefully the hitches with this release will get ironed out in time. All the same it's great to see our boy back again.
@@ryujigoda3445 Best faith interpretation is they're trying to compile the fixes they're working on in one big patch. At least I certainly hope that's what's happening considering there's only been one patch to fix some of the music issues, and even that is only on Steam for the time being.
I've been playing this on switch and I have a really weird gripe with it on there. So the game controlls like it's on the PlayStation so the equivalent of the PlayStations X on the switch controller is B, which confused me a little at first cause I was pressing B to confirm and A to cancel in game but I could get used to it. But the main menu and save menu controlled like a switch game so depending on what menu I was in the controls changed and I was back to confirming with A and cancelling with B and it fried my little brain slightly 🤣🤣
@@Helispookter Someone else here had a similar sentiment. I can handle Switch games changing A/B around for games that traditionally had a PlayStation-adjacent control scheme as long as it's consistent, but being interchangeable like that throws me through a loop. I vaguely remember Crash N Sane Trilogy on Switch was the same.
@@Kate_Hanami Truly evil design putting the hardest one right near the end of the track. Save states and rewinds in the eventual re-release are going to be a godsend for that thing.
I only played the demo in my teens growing up, always wanted to play it through, then bought it on the PS3, and got further, but ultimately got stuck somewhere. Was debating on picking up this new release, but I'll probably wait until the bugs are ironed out.
I was hoping the PAL/UK version of the intro would at least be a museum piece 😢 I bought and played the Switch version and loved replaying one of my favourite games of all time, but it sure is short when you know what you're doing and where you're going 😅 One thing I found odd was that vitality capped at 8 for a while, then the additional vitality suddenly appeared at some point! Weird glitch.
@@BlueThunder1988 No Sweat 98 is definitely a bit of a guilty pleasure. Tombi is one of my go-to examples of games I wish I could erase from my memory so I could discover everything for the first time again. Also the vitality cap is increased from 8 to 16 when you get the Golden Bowl from Yan after finding all his hiding places. Not a glitch, just a poorly explained item.
@@BlueKunai ahhh, thanks! I did wonder why it wasn't immediate! Especially as I had to redo some stuff as I wasn't saving as much as I should have been and had a system error going from the lower area of Trick Village to the Jungle! And it happened again, though thankfully I was saving often by that point.
I like the original Tomba soundtrack and what is the point in buying the newer version of the game and playing the newer version of the game if the game will not let you solve the mystery of the mysterious stone tablets? That doesn't make any sense.
@@BradofEarthChannel2 I'd say so. I haven't heard the Switch version suffering from any issues unique to that port and if you're unfamiliar with the original then a lot of the issues I brought up probably won't be as noticable for you.
The game actually runs at a higher resolution you just can't really tell cause the game uses a lot of pre-rendered backgrounds and sprites which can't be upscaled at least not without applying heavy filtering or AI, compare all the 3D objects to the original those are upscaled. 6:50 What happens here I imagine is that there's a bug, the carbon engine doesn't replace the original cutscenes from the game, if you dig around the game files you'll find the ROMs of the original games that you can play in any PS1 emulator, so you can even watch the EU version of the intro with the song "No sweat" played. 10:40 That happens cause what the games does is just mute the ingame music and just plays the remastered OST over the game, it doesn't actually replace the music files. 11:40 There is if you change the game language to anything but English. Overall for 20$ im a tad disappointed with the effort given.
@@GameFactsSpecial Just another reason I almost never buy games near launch nowadays. Even re-releases of perfectly functional games can be riddled with issues initially.
you having the tomba version may occur because of you language settings. you can test it with selecting a european language and the title screen changes to tombi for me. even in my playthrough they always referered to me as tombi. i guess they made only the american version for the english language setting. overall i'm glad my steam copy didn't have the launching issue and by playing with the original soundtrack i was able to evade most of the issues. only the last 130 achievement didn't pop up, but it was easily fixed by replaying the final pig with the remastered soundtrack. overall i'm glad i could finally play the whole game after owning just the demo and i'm now awaiting tombi 2. i'm just not sure if the graphics hold up. the second game didn't age as well graphic vise as the first one due to its different style and limited run not even upscaling the resolution kinda makes me skeptic about it
@@USS1SWAT The way localisation works makes sense in that context since importing the scripts from the EU language versions of the game naturally would go by Tombi. I guess it wouldn't make sense for them to have a separate English script when this is using a ROM of the NTSC release as a basis.
I thought that was a new song for the intro, I still have the original tombi game and the og intro I have and the special editions one were two different songs
@@andieanderssen780 You're not alone in that camp. They're aware of pretty much all the issues I brought up in this video and more, so we'll just have to hope those patches go live before the physical copies go to print. They have until September before the pre-order window ends.
@@certerum One can only dream. Sadly we wouldn't ever be able to see a playable version of what this game was aiming to be without the original source code or completely starting over from scratch.
@@BlueKunai I still have my Original PS1, My aunty and uncle had the contracts with sony to fix all the playstations for australia and new zealand + distribution so i had the privilege of having access to much sony, and when i was sick from school one day i picked tombi and tombi 2 from the "room" and let loose, didn't realise i would like it so much after putting it off for so long ( it was kind of like trying to pick a movie from a blockbuster in the 90s, was just going by the cover ) any way had so much fun with it
Picked up the Switch version, and it kept freezing within 2 minutes, and left my Switch unresponsive. It's been out for a week and no updates, got a refund from Nintendo, maybe I'll try it on PS5.
Sick to death of shoddy ports. This game deserves so much better and there's no good first-time playthroughs on TH-cam. Was really hoping this would give bigger streamers a reason to try it. Once again, original hardware on a CRT is the best option. Depressing.
RIP any hope to see the village of all beginnings. When I heard about the savestates I thought "that'd be useful for motocross" before you mentioned it - worst bit of game xD
I bought tomba for cheap on the ps3 and seeing it $20 really rubbed me the wrong way, especially since this is just an emulation. Absolutely disrespectful release. It's sad that you can get a better product by sailing the seas...If these companies are just going to do emulation, they either need to charge it a reasonable price, which would be $5-$8 or they need to offer MORE than what the competitor is, and they're doing neither.
I wasn't gonna buy this unfortunately, or... fortunately? This seems beyond buggy. I have played both games endlessly anyhow, I'd rather get a sequel, that is something I will spend a substantial amount of money to buy.
It's so stupid that the release doesn't even support Japanese on a Japanese game. I was going to buy this as a gift for some friends from Japan who love this game but they can't read english.
@@BloodiedHorror Yeah. I saw in passing that Limited Run had a post in relation to this game entirely in Japanese. Not sure what it was about but hopefully some good news for JP fans.
@@BlueKunai Didn't know about that announcement so I went to check it out. It's basically an apology saying the US and European versions of Tomba came out after the JP one and included fixes. They based the release off that and were going to make a Japanese version but never announced that yet. This reads more like an apology after the fact... They also boast that it will be the first time these fixed would ever be available in Japanese, and they will have more info in September with a planned release in fall. I suspect they got a lot of Japanese complaints and are finally deciding to release a translated version. I see no reason to not announce this earlier but at least they are doing it.
This was the first and only time I even HEARD this had happened. Love these games. I wouldn’t have known it came out if not for your video. Gonna go buy it right now!
@@ChaseFace Yeah, unless you're already in the know with Limited Run's releases or following any Tomba related stuff super close, it hasn't really had much in the way of advertising. I've seen so many folks on Twitter learning about it by accident.
In 2022, after owning Tombi 2 The Evil Swine Return for well over 20 years I finally beat both the Kujara washing AND the Trolley minigames. Proudest gaming moment of my life.
Unfortunately it also reminds me I'm not good at video games.
@@PanzerWalrus All the same, beating those are no small feat. Archaic PS1 era minigames take a certain level of finesse.
I used to play kujara washing over and over for fun as a kid. Was a great time.
I've also been playing for 20+ yrs and still can't beat the trolly quests >< maybe someday I will, but the remaster of 2 will prob be released well before i manage to beat it, on the original disc. Then again I can't beat the race in the 1st game, either, so it's not a surprise.
@@PanzerWalrus I was born and raised in video games. 🎮 I will forever thank my brother for introducing gaming to me.
Wait for sale confirmed. Thanks for the video.
Although, that lack of death jingle is absolutely hilarious.
@@travisbplank It really is. Part of me wanted to edit in a sound effect but it's comical enough by itself.
I remember playing the demo back in 2001 with the demo disk that came with MediEvil and I really enjoyed it but I also remember going to Central Park trying to find the game but never could, it wasn't until 2013 that I experienced the full Tombi game after buying it on PSN and I still love this gem to this day :)
@@MissMaryanne1 Many such cases. The amount of people who only ever experienced this game through the demo are probably 20x the amount of units the game actually sold. It seemed so obnoxiously hard to find even when it was new.
Winter Releases 98 that demo disc
As one of the guys who only ever had the demo as a kid this release is great. I have it on Switch so I can play it on my commute
@@Superhands92 It definitely is a game that is well suited to shorter sessions. When I first got my PS Vita it was one of the first games I transferred over from my PS3
I was doing some digging around PC version (which fortunately worked for me day 1 and I even managed to get all achievements).
The problem with modern soundtrack is because it's not played "by the game" but "by the emulator".
OG soundtrack plays directly from the game emulated files, just like you would run the original disc or it's image on emulator/console.
Modern OST works by muting the OG one, and playing external music file (kinda like a music player) via triggers based on the game's memory changes - hence for example, the music starts on the loading screen, because the area change trigger happens when the area starts to load.
Also, very nice video.
@@ludekcortex I figured that was the case. About a day before I uploaded this there was a patch for the PC version which fixed the issue with tracks playing on loading screens and SOME areas playing the wrong tracks. Hopefully they'll all be amended and have the fix on all platforms before long.
Watched your Tomba videos twice through in full, this is amazing news to see
I have to get this GAME!! Y’all dont understand how much I loved this game. Now if EA will give us a Sims 2 refresh they would be billionaires
I still have my ps1 copies. I will also be buying this for switch. I love this game so dang much
Heck yeah, I'm old enough to remember the original Tomba 1&2 on demo disc back in the day. I love Tomba 😂
@@CozyCornPop dude I’m waiting on payday!! It’s gonna be UP ⬆️ when I get this. And I’m getting a PlayStation controller!! I’ve been waiting for this moment all my life
@@creepyghostproductionz9026 yep we’re officially old
I love both Tomba 1 and 2 and prob would buy remastered versions of the Sims 2.
you have the perfect voice. Always a pleasure to listen to about games
@@KarimJovian Well thanks! I'm glad some people enjoy listening to me because hours of having to listen to myself in audio editing has not made me any more fond of my own voice 😅
Hey, I really enjoyed your Tombi In-Depth videos! Do you have anything in the pipeline currently? I'd love to see more from you!
@@Ler0yJenk1ns I have a few ideas for projects in mind, but my creative motivation is fickle so I don't wanna go naming anything to get people's hopes up and then just never doing it. Might try and at least get some more smaller things out where possible before tackling any multi-hour projects again.
This was just the sort of impressions video I was looking for. Thank you!
Cool okay now Brave Fencer Musashi!!!
Thank you for giving an honest and fair review of this version. I'm pitifully broke, but I covet the Whoopee edition, so I'm avoiding grabbing the digital release right away, to allow myself to just barely afford to treat myself. Utter coincidence, but pre-orders end on my birthday. With any luck they'll wait long enough to drop the sequel for my finances to recover somewhat. I'm among those who played the demo growing up, but had to wait for the PS3 to play the whole thing. The sequel will be entirely new to me, as my old PS3 died before the sequel dropped there.
Really appreciate this video. Loved Tomba 1&2 as a kid like many. Still have my original PS1 copies. I was hesitant to purchase this given LRG's track record and after diving into the Steam discussion forums around release. Just about every TH-cam video I skimmed over covering this release was extremely surface with people who had very little experience with the originals. Not the case with you!!!
Grabbed a pre-order for the switch version. Fingers crossed the issues are ironed out before print but it'll be nice just to have all the same for the gallery mode. Going to probably do a run on duckstation in the meantime.
Looking forward to any coverage you do regarding the Tomba 2 port whenever that drops.
@@deathgripssan6159 You can bet Tomba 2 will get the same coverage. Will definitely be interested to see how that one is handled between the sometimes wonky emulation that can come from it, the divide between ENG and JP soundtracks, and what there may be in terms of concept art we've never seen
For what it's worth I played through the Steam version this week and had zero issues. No crashes, performed perfectly, and the new QOL made it a joy to play through. I liked all of the different options in regards to screen size and thought the CRT filter was a nice touch. I wished there was new content like new quests or areas, but as far as a port of an old game with QOL, it was fantastic. No complaints with the PC port for me.
@@gregtroyan As it should be. I'm glad you were able to enjoy it unimpeded!
Wow. Finally found someone on TH-cam who actually experienced how Tomba! Special Edition's Steam Port refused to work. (At time of posting, it still doesn't for most people.)
@@DrSmug-yj9ot It's really not something that should be glossed over. Whether your game has a bunch of issues or not, a game you paid for actually being able to start should be the bare minimum.
Cool! I was looking forward to a video of first impressions of the Special Edition from you. They should have gotten you as a beta tester/quality assurance.
Well, never expected to see another Tombi! video from you after two big retrospectives...
...crazy times we live in, huh?
Eh, I preordered LRG's special physical edition of 1, I'll probably do the same with 2 (even though I DESPISE LRG)... bought the originals for an equivalent of $150, so... might as well go all in.
Thanks for reminding me of my bad life decisions.
First time viewer, excellent video! I played through Tomba PS5 for the first time over the release weekend and had an excellent time for the most part. I grew up playing Tomba 2, but never had a chance to play the first. Like you said, the rewind feature was very welcome for the more brutal sections of the game like Phoenix Mountains and the GoKart time trial. Unfortunately I only got 124 of the events completed, due to not knowing some of them are permanently missable if you defeat the Forest Pig before doing the seed quest for the Dwarf kid. I adored the original soundtrack, it's been stuck in my head all week.
Knowing LRG, it's a long shot that Tomba 2R will release in a much cleaner state than Tomba 1R, but I'm cautiously optimistic.
Side note: I'm honestly relieved someone else mentioned the audio glitches Tomba 2 has when emulated or on PS3 Classics. I felt like I was going crazy, no one else was mentioning it online! Audio also doesn't play properly on burned CDs on actual PS1 hardware, so there has never quite been a viable way to play Tomba 2 without audio issues outside of spending $80+ on a rare real copy.
Cheers!
@@Tsumugi_Kotobuki PS3 emulation of the second game was always strange. My physical copy of the PAL version would never loop music and instead play a distorted version of another track on the CD. The digital release that MonkeyPaw Games did worked fine, so I wasn't sure if the NTSC version was issue-free or just that version they worked on for the PSN.
I've been working through the PS3 digital store PS1 classics Tomba 2, and typically what happens is the area music loop completes, and then for about 1 second a different area's music kicks in before the game corrects it back to the correct area's music. It's definitely jarring, but much better than the distorted issues I've had with other emulated versions.
Great, detailed review! Also I like your voice. Very calming and easy to listen to 🙂
Haven't finished/played a video game in years. Only Owned the demo as a kid and replayed it to death.. I completed this game after a long hiatus, i really enjoyed it. Wouldn't have been able to without a guide or rewind function, im getting old..
Almost got 100% but missed out 3 events..
Im now considering tales of symphonia as my next game... another childhood favourite of mine or vampire masquerade, never played but i hear good things
That instant accelleration of the grey/white form of Tombi looks absurd. I often decided not to use it in the original because I preferred precission over speed. I would not be able to handle this version at all
I’m very happy this game was re-launched. I had it on ps1 after playing it on the demo but lost it over time. At some point I talked about it with a friend and felt that urge of playing it again. I thought of checking it online and the price was over the roof. So I’m glad this happened and only cost me $20 instead of $200 or more
Played through it on pc day of release. Didn't have the launch issues you did. I've only ever played it on PlayStation/CRT so the differences really stand out to me. The biggest one for me is the input, doesn't feel right. You're right about inputs held before text boxes. The first time you swing on a branch the tutorial message pops up, if you're holding a direction and advance the text it will cause tombi to jump off the branch when it disappears.
@@SumoGauntlet Glad your Steam copy treated you better than mine did. Also absolutely, that bit on the branch on the way up to Charles was what caught me off the first time.
Oh and the kill music did play for me once which was weird. It was on Phoenix mountain but that was the only time. Definitely a bug.
Great vid, may have swayed my choice to pay up if I'd seen it before hand!
I bought the pc version early.. I had 2 requiremments - widescreen with a proper aspect ratio (ultrawide would have been ideal for me but I would have settled) and for the load times to have been addressed, especially thinking of the haunted mansion. So I got a refund and went back to playing the ps1 original which I got as a kid, on a free emulator.
I started playing this and was trying to work out why the controls felt slightly off. You're definitely right about the acceleration and momentum.
@@floatinghamstick The devil's in the details with ports like these. Sometimes the smallest thing can effect how everything feels.
Haunted mansion part 1 remastered just slaps, however although I'm not complaining, the purified mansion still played haunted mansion part 1 theme
You too, huh? I think the Dwarf Forest did the same for me
My name is Tomba the Mighty
well I do feel the one with soundtrack starting in the loading screen instead after. makes a big difference. I cant believe trophies are glitched. I ordered my physical game, but it seems I have to wait a year for it, awesome
Everything sold out before I even hear about the pre orders, thanks for letting me know limited run 🤣
I'm just thankful it looks bugged to hell, maybe I'll still find a physical edition for sale down the road
Just finished the game on PC 100% yesterday. Although there were some minor audio issues and lag on the north half of the haunted mansion, everything other than that was smooth sailing.
Howzit Bluekunai, I watched your other Tombi video, not in full mind you.
I know you're a fellow Kiwi, and for some reason this game and that infamous Winter Release Demo really struck a chord with my age group, I'm 36 next month.
Met a few other Kiwi Tombi fans since.
I was fortunate I hired the original Pal Tombi from the Video source in Whakatane, and clocked it back in 99? All I remember is that I didn't complete all the missions back then, like the mushroom missions etc. But what a ride this game was at the time.
Anime was already scarce at the time, I remember playing that demo FMV over and over again, in my mind I thought there was a Tombi Anime or Movie haha.
One trip we made when travelling between Tauranga and Auckland, I want to say it was Cambridge or Hamilton!? I can't remember, but Farmers had a copy of Tombi 2 for sale on their shelves, I immediately purchased it. When I got back to Whakatane, I played the crap out of that game, and I believe I got nearly every single achievement, except the upside down buckets at the beginning of the game.
Since then I've mastered both games on Emu. You can get the game looking really clean with some of the plugins, as per personal prefrence.
My guilty pleasure is the East West Intro 'No Sweat' that use to get me hyped AF as a kid to jam some Tombi.
What a time to be a gamer, and how much fun was had within these creative worlds, I loved the cast of characters colour and art styles, it was so fresh and new.
The PS1 era was truely the golden age of gaming for us.
@@Shinreetlegna I love how universal an experience it is that so many people played the demo of Tombi 1 to death because copies of the full game were basically non-existent. I have vague memories of seeing a copy of the first game in a Kmart, but I would've been 5 at the time so I might be imagining it. I ended up getting Tombi 2 as a gift around launch because my dad saw how much I loved playing the demo of the first game.
@@BlueKunai That's awesome, do you have a Facebook page or something? I'd like to share some Tombi artwork I done in the early 2010's etc.
@@Shinreetlegna I don't really do social media anymore, but if you hit up Tomba Club on Twitter or Discord the folks there will be happy to have you. The Discord even has a dedicated art channel
This is the kind review I was expecting :D
Other than FMVs playing twice or the new soundtrack playing on loading screens, it runs good on the steam deck OLED. Hopefully they'll irone out the rest of the details before the physical edition comes out - which can take a really long time
@@ekuseru I've seen some speculate that the PC release may have been made more with the Deck in mind since they're all the same hardware. Differing systems are certainly the biggest hurdle with developing for PC, especially for the poor souls like myself that can't even get the game running 😅
Just started playing this through emulation last week since i never finished it as a kid. Was completely unaware there was a rerelease around the corner 😂
I have played the PS1 version to death. I can confirm the glitch that shifts you up the pillar from the bottom on stormy mountain was in the original too. So any others that are found are likely not new.
@@SuileaGorma I've played through this game a couple dozen times at this point. There's a pretty good chance I've run into it before and completely forgot about it.
Awesome video as always, I can already tell you, the soundtrack playing during loading screens and the wrong tracks being played at some locations has been fixed (On pc that is, the patches need to be greenlit on the consoles)
The pants achievement will be fixed in a future patch.
Also, if you change the in game language to any EU one the game changes to Tombi.
It's still amazing this re-release even happend, and we will get more info on the Tomba 2 re-release next year!
@@Folk1n It's been nice to see the folks in the Discord so actively reporting any anomalies, so hopefully the hitches with this release will get ironed out in time. All the same it's great to see our boy back again.
English is a European language, TWIT
Europe is not E.U.
They still haven’t updated this game yet with the bugs and trophy issues 🤔 thanks LRG
@@ryujigoda3445 Best faith interpretation is they're trying to compile the fixes they're working on in one big patch. At least I certainly hope that's what's happening considering there's only been one patch to fix some of the music issues, and even that is only on Steam for the time being.
@@BlueKunai we can only hope
I've been playing this on switch and I have a really weird gripe with it on there. So the game controlls like it's on the PlayStation so the equivalent of the PlayStations X on the switch controller is B, which confused me a little at first cause I was pressing B to confirm and A to cancel in game but I could get used to it. But the main menu and save menu controlled like a switch game so depending on what menu I was in the controls changed and I was back to confirming with A and cancelling with B and it fried my little brain slightly 🤣🤣
@@Helispookter Someone else here had a similar sentiment. I can handle Switch games changing A/B around for games that traditionally had a PlayStation-adjacent control scheme as long as it's consistent, but being interchangeable like that throws me through a loop. I vaguely remember Crash N Sane Trilogy on Switch was the same.
Some bugs that need addressed on the console copy but I had fun with it. It's wild how different 2 is from 1 though.
that damn seed of strength in the very edge of the a sharp curve right before you need to speed up to make a jump....
@@Kate_Hanami Truly evil design putting the hardest one right near the end of the track. Save states and rewinds in the eventual re-release are going to be a godsend for that thing.
@@BlueKunai They're ALREADY a godsend here. Made fighting the Storm Pig sooo much easier
I only played the demo in my teens growing up, always wanted to play it through, then bought it on the PS3, and got further, but ultimately got stuck somewhere. Was debating on picking up this new release, but I'll probably wait until the bugs are ironed out.
I was hoping the PAL/UK version of the intro would at least be a museum piece 😢 I bought and played the Switch version and loved replaying one of my favourite games of all time, but it sure is short when you know what you're doing and where you're going 😅
One thing I found odd was that vitality capped at 8 for a while, then the additional vitality suddenly appeared at some point! Weird glitch.
@@BlueThunder1988 No Sweat 98 is definitely a bit of a guilty pleasure. Tombi is one of my go-to examples of games I wish I could erase from my memory so I could discover everything for the first time again.
Also the vitality cap is increased from 8 to 16 when you get the Golden Bowl from Yan after finding all his hiding places. Not a glitch, just a poorly explained item.
@@BlueKunai ahhh, thanks! I did wonder why it wasn't immediate! Especially as I had to redo some stuff as I wasn't saving as much as I should have been and had a system error going from the lower area of Trick Village to the Jungle! And it happened again, though thankfully I was saving often by that point.
I like the original Tomba soundtrack and what is the point in buying the newer version of the game and playing the newer version of the game if the game will not let you solve the mystery of the mysterious stone tablets? That doesn't make any sense.
@@TheRealDustinNunn Maybe the real mystery of the stone tablets was the friends we made along the way.
Just emulate the original. Got it.
Unless you’re not broke as a joke and have access to PSN.
If I’ve never played the original and have no way to play the original is this switch version worth picking up?
@@BradofEarthChannel2 I'd say so. I haven't heard the Switch version suffering from any issues unique to that port and if you're unfamiliar with the original then a lot of the issues I brought up probably won't be as noticable for you.
Ps5 version unfortunately has one trophy bug. Shred threads, won't unlock even after you collect and wear each pair of pants.
I noticed that, hope it gets fixed for the completionist's that play the game.
The game actually runs at a higher resolution you just can't really tell cause the game uses a lot of pre-rendered backgrounds and sprites which can't be upscaled at least not without applying heavy filtering or AI, compare all the 3D objects to the original those are upscaled.
6:50 What happens here I imagine is that there's a bug, the carbon engine doesn't replace the original cutscenes from the game, if you dig around the game files you'll find the ROMs of the original games that you can play in any PS1 emulator, so you can even watch the EU version of the intro with the song "No sweat" played.
10:40 That happens cause what the games does is just mute the ingame music and just plays the remastered OST over the game, it doesn't actually replace the music files.
11:40 There is if you change the game language to anything but English.
Overall for 20$ im a tad disappointed with the effort given.
I want to remake this game, this game was just fucking amazing!!
Holysh ita new video! Dude do medievil!
Man, think I'll hold off on this one. Looks rough.
@@GameFactsSpecial Just another reason I almost never buy games near launch nowadays. Even re-releases of perfectly functional games can be riddled with issues initially.
you having the tomba version may occur because of you language settings. you can test it with selecting a european language and the title screen changes to tombi for me. even in my playthrough they always referered to me as tombi. i guess they made only the american version for the english language setting. overall i'm glad my steam copy didn't have the launching issue and by playing with the original soundtrack i was able to evade most of the issues. only the last 130 achievement didn't pop up, but it was easily fixed by replaying the final pig with the remastered soundtrack. overall i'm glad i could finally play the whole game after owning just the demo and i'm now awaiting tombi 2. i'm just not sure if the graphics hold up. the second game didn't age as well graphic vise as the first one due to its different style and limited run not even upscaling the resolution kinda makes me skeptic about it
@@USS1SWAT The way localisation works makes sense in that context since importing the scripts from the EU language versions of the game naturally would go by Tombi. I guess it wouldn't make sense for them to have a separate English script when this is using a ROM of the NTSC release as a basis.
I thought that was a new song for the intro, I still have the original tombi game and the og intro I have and the special editions one were two different songs
Nice video, mate.
Oh no. I suddenly regret buying the physical. Oh well.
@@andieanderssen780 You're not alone in that camp. They're aware of pretty much all the issues I brought up in this video and more, so we'll just have to hope those patches go live before the physical copies go to print. They have until September before the pre-order window ends.
Very nice review
4:33 this glitch is present in the ps1 version
@@SoulConvoy I figured as much, good to have confirmation.
I came from Kingdom Hearts :)
@@arturorodriguez9281 Good times. 2007 feels like an eternity ago now.
@@BlueKunai thanks for answer. Yes, It's like a whole life! I was 11 in 2007.
i wished they added the lost levels :( also was hoping for a little graphical tweak.
@@certerum One can only dream. Sadly we wouldn't ever be able to see a playable version of what this game was aiming to be without the original source code or completely starting over from scratch.
I would really prefer if you would be quiet...
Come here after your 2.5 hours video
i'm probably just gonna replay the two on my ps1 haha been a while
@@pro-storm4951 Absolutely. Having any means to play them on original hardware is a blessing itself.
@@BlueKunai I still have my Original PS1, My aunty and uncle had the contracts with sony to fix all the playstations for australia and new zealand + distribution so i had the privilege of having access to much sony, and when i was sick from school one day i picked tombi and tombi 2 from the "room" and let loose, didn't realise i would like it so much after putting it off for so long ( it was kind of like trying to pick a movie from a blockbuster in the 90s, was just going by the cover ) any way had so much fun with it
Europe: The USA doesn't call things by their proper name, even when the rest of the world does!
Also Europe: This game is called Tombi!
I don't think Europe said that actually
Given that Tomba (allegedly) means GRAVE in Italian, it makes sense.
Picked up the Switch version, and it kept freezing within 2 minutes, and left my Switch unresponsive. It's been out for a week and no updates, got a refund from Nintendo, maybe I'll try it on PS5.
i had no problems with my pc steam ver no bugs no crashes it boots up fine
@@Gwar-Deth As it should. You're more fortunate than I was.
@@BlueKunai problem with pc is no two pc's are the same one will play fine where the other wont stop bugging one way console are better
Sick to death of shoddy ports. This game deserves so much better and there's no good first-time playthroughs on TH-cam. Was really hoping this would give bigger streamers a reason to try it.
Once again, original hardware on a CRT is the best option. Depressing.
Man they stuffed up Big time one of the trophies are bugged
RIP any hope to see the village of all beginnings.
When I heard about the savestates I thought "that'd be useful for motocross" before you mentioned it - worst bit of game xD
@@WorthlessWinner Save states and rewind are gonna be a godsend for the trolley in the second game.
I bought tomba for cheap on the ps3 and seeing it $20 really rubbed me the wrong way, especially since this is just an emulation.
Absolutely disrespectful release. It's sad that you can get a better product by sailing the seas...If these companies are just going to do emulation, they either need to charge it a reasonable price, which would be $5-$8 or they need to offer MORE than what the competitor is, and they're doing neither.
You’re paying for the day1 bugs and the trophies / achievements 😂😂😂😂
Still hasn’t been patched the week later 💀
I wasn't gonna buy this unfortunately, or... fortunately? This seems beyond buggy. I have played both games endlessly anyhow, I'd rather get a sequel, that is something I will spend a substantial amount of money to buy.
and is a skip for me now...... i mean i could play with the original ost but i wanted to try the new stuff.......
not even hd but 20 usd lol
It's so stupid that the release doesn't even support Japanese on a Japanese game. I was going to buy this as a gift for some friends from Japan who love this game but they can't read english.
@@BloodiedHorror Yeah. I saw in passing that Limited Run had a post in relation to this game entirely in Japanese. Not sure what it was about but hopefully some good news for JP fans.
@@BlueKunai Didn't know about that announcement so I went to check it out.
It's basically an apology saying the US and European versions of Tomba came out after the JP one and included fixes. They based the release off that and were going to make a Japanese version but never announced that yet. This reads more like an apology after the fact...
They also boast that it will be the first time these fixed would ever be available in Japanese, and they will have more info in September with a planned release in fall.
I suspect they got a lot of Japanese complaints and are finally deciding to release a translated version. I see no reason to not announce this earlier but at least they are doing it.
Sounds like a horrible release.
@@MrYoungHegelian I dunno if I'd go that far, but it was a bit disappointing for what should've been an easy slam dunk.
This was the first and only time I even HEARD this had happened. Love these games. I wouldn’t have known it came out if not for your video. Gonna go buy it right now!
@@ChaseFace Yeah, unless you're already in the know with Limited Run's releases or following any Tomba related stuff super close, it hasn't really had much in the way of advertising. I've seen so many folks on Twitter learning about it by accident.
Original version is better imo