What's The True Life Story of Carrie Astor in HBO's The Gilded Age ? | S1 E6

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  • In HBO's The Gilded Age, season 1 episode 6, we are just starting to get to know the story of Carrie Astor, daughter of THE Mrs. Astor. So far in the show we haven't seen much of Carrie, who is 21 years old in The Gilded Age's 1882 timeframe.
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    Now, we can look into history and get a glimpse of what is ahead in Carrie Astor's storyline.
    So are in the HBO series, The Gilded Age, we have not seen much of Carrie until episode 6.
    In episode 6 of HBO's The Gilded Age, we get to see how Carrie Astor (played by Amy Forsyth) is just as much under her mother's thumb as Gladys.
    Here we are starting to get more of a sense of Carrie and her life in shall we say, a gilded cage, when we come upon her crying at another of Mamie Fish's party in the scene where Larry and Gladys Russell approach Carrie as she wipes away tears from her face.
    In conversation with Gladys, Carrie reveals that her tears are over a man but the man's name is not spoken.
    It will take a couple of years before Carrie Astor would marry a man who would be from a new money family. A man her mother is entirely against because he is the son of a Southerner and Civil War profiteer whose reputation was as tainted as all the robber barons of that era.
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  • @04straw
    @04straw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    I love the background details of the character's lives. Makes the show even better, if that's possible! Appreciate your dedication to providing this information!

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Like you, I too like the background information. I do this all the time with historical shows and movies so I figured, why not start a YT channel that mirrors what I like to do! Thanks so much for your thoughts on this!.

  • @thedavidjwschmidt
    @thedavidjwschmidt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    Added history... Carrie's husband, M. Orme Wilson's, sister Mary, was married to Ogden Goelet - who is mentioned several times in the series - as visitors at Mamie Fish's house in Newport and later at a club. The Goelets were second only to the Astors at great land holders in New York. Ogden and May's daughter, also named May, married the Duke of Roxburgh. Another sister, Belle, married the brother of the Earl of Pembroke and the youngest. Grace, married Cornelius Vanderbilt, III.... The Wilsons were known at the Marrying Wilsons due to their very advantageous marriages.

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Love the extra information! I can't always get everything into a video without losing focus. Thanks so much!

    • @lauralaladarling3775
      @lauralaladarling3775 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you this is very interesting and adds important history to the excellent video; although it would be fantastic if these stories were covered in The Golden Age. Xxx

  • @nancydublin3315
    @nancydublin3315 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I love hearing about Mrs. Astor and her daughter Carrie. Mrs. Astor's maiden name was Schermerhorn. My 2nd GGM was Anna Jerusha Schermerhorn (1850-1917). She married someone "beneath her station," and her parents Henry & Eliza Schermerhorn disowned her for life. So hearing how real these people behaved in their snobbery is fascinating to me. I'm so glad Carrie turned away from that and gave to charities instead. So, I too, am a descendant of the Dutch family Schermerhorn the same as Mrs. Astor and her daughter, Carrie. :)

  • @AlannahRyane
    @AlannahRyane 2 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    So strange watching the poverty and struggle of the covered wagon pioneers in 1883 then watching the decadence of the Guilded Age during the same time period. A shock to the reality recognising system.

    • @isabellaxoxo8357
      @isabellaxoxo8357 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Right! I had to keep reminding myself that a few states away some people were living in extreme decadence 😄

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Those in 1883 were chasing the dream like the ancestors of 1882 NYC elite had done just a couple of generations before. John Jacob Astor started out as a fur trader just as R.T. WIlson was from a poor family and started out as a tanner. No wonder people come to America for a better life! Thanks for joining the conversation!

    • @amandagregory7303
      @amandagregory7303 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Me and my mom said the same thing so glad these 2 gems over lapped so we got to see 2 sides of the coin.

    • @ThatsJustPeachy1871
      @ThatsJustPeachy1871 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Like watching all the royals today while so much needless homelessness and starvation continues.

    • @Daphattack
      @Daphattack 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ThatsJustPeachy1871 yup so much time passes and yet a lot remains the same. At least in developed countries there are more opportunities now.

  • @dianamarquez4774
    @dianamarquez4774 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I was introduced to "The Gilded Age" when I began my interest in the lovely gowns created by Charles Frederick Worth. They left quite a legacy and so many, many daughters were trapped. The social rules were like mental straightjackets. It seems strange to us now but everything these gilded age families did were splashed over the pages of newspapers.

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Today we have the Kardashians and the like and the internet! Still a strange world! Thanks for joining the conversation!

  • @amritadouglas5994
    @amritadouglas5994 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    3 East 64th Street still stands and is now the home of the Consulate General of India.

  • @videopokergal4194
    @videopokergal4194 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Thank you for all the wonderful history!😁 The Gilded Age has been a wonderful show for me!😍

  • @patricialong5767
    @patricialong5767 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Carrie Astor sounds like a very practical woman! I say kudos to her! I would have loved to have known her, but alas, I was born far too late. :(

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      She does sound like the most mature of so many of the women. Thanks for joining the conversation!

  • @MTClassicMovieChannel
    @MTClassicMovieChannel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I like the show very much and appreciate how so many different lives are presented.

  • @Celtickok1
    @Celtickok1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Most people when they visit New York City stop at St. Patrick’s Cathedral not knowing that the worlds largest cathedral of Saint John the Divine at 125th St. and Amsterdam Avenue exists. It is quite a radical cathedral drawing in all types of artists. It’s an incomplete cathedral they have not finished the left wing. There is an iconic statue of arc angel Michael beheading the devil. There is the blessings of the animals the first Thursday in October celebrating the feast of Saint Francis of Assissi dogs and cats assemble in the cathedral it’s an unbelievable event and if you ever find yourself in New York City during that period of time you must go and see it. I wonder if Carrie Astor has something to do with that celebration!

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Awesome! Love the extra information and who knows. it is likely that Carrie's love for animals did contribute to that event. I would love to see it and if my friend still lived in Brooklyn, I would visit her just to see that! Thanks for sharing!

    • @cross75man75
      @cross75man75 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      By the way, they are still in the process of building the Cathedral, Like a real Medieval Cathedral, it's taken over a hundred years to build.

    • @LSTEdD1
      @LSTEdD1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agree the Cathedral is beautiful.

  • @historychannelpodcasts
    @historychannelpodcasts 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Another very detailed history- or shall I say herstory- video. I so appreciated the work you put into these videos and it pays off with the level of knowledge you provide. Keep up the good work...and oh yeah. I subbede!

  • @duchess_of_petty9323
    @duchess_of_petty9323 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    These are so interesting, I’m loving the channel

  • @huub1989
    @huub1989 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The photograph of German troops in Paris that you use in reference to World War I is historically inaccurate. During World War I the Germans never occupied Paris, hence a photograph of German troops passing the Arc de Triomph is from WWII.

  • @fabulouswomeninhistory
    @fabulouswomeninhistory  2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

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    • @stephanebelizaire3627
      @stephanebelizaire3627 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      YES !

    • @mr.rightnow.7300
      @mr.rightnow.7300 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think so. Why would they change it? So far the history is spot on but it is mixed with fictional characters which is what I like. I haven't figured out who the Van Ryjans are yet. I think they're fictional. I do like how they glamorized Bertha because Alva Vanderbilt was NOT attractive and was portly.

  • @videopokergal4194
    @videopokergal4194 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for all this history!😁

  • @Richardsonprincess00
    @Richardsonprincess00 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    No wonder Carrie's life was a splendid world.

  • @ladyagnes9430
    @ladyagnes9430 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Wow! I love the details about these interesting women

  • @KandeShack
    @KandeShack 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Another great video!!

  • @nranderson778
    @nranderson778 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’m loving your videos.

  • @serenawilliams6138
    @serenawilliams6138 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The illustrations for the wedding are definitely not of the 1880s but from at least a decade later. It’s a minor detail, but the styles are remarkably different.

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Hi. I can't always find the perfect pictures that are okay to uses ie. copyright free so I do the best with what is available. Thanks for your thoughts.

    • @serenawilliams6138
      @serenawilliams6138 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@fabulouswomeninhistory I love the videos and all apologies for being overly picky. Please excuse that I’m a little OCD and thank you for the wonderful work you do. There used to be books (like some of the old paper doll books) that had lots of Victorian/Edwardian images that were all specifically in the public domain and I used to use them in my own illustrations-I’m not sure if they’re stiii currently in print but if I come across them I will let you know.

    • @MauvaisetBourgeoise
      @MauvaisetBourgeoise 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The illustration at 7:02 cracked me up 🤣🤣

  • @patricedrake544
    @patricedrake544 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It was about time someone wrote about the origins of New York City my home❤ everyone should visit NYC during the holidays such festivity🎉🗽🎆⏰💥💫

  • @kjsf569
    @kjsf569 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I was surprised that Carrie Astor had her funeral in a church that was not St John the Divine as she spent so much charitable works for it. Carrie is buried in the Bronx?

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You make a good point. Thanks for joining the conversation!

    • @cross75man75
      @cross75man75 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      All the wealthy and powerful families built their great mausoleum at Wood-Lawn in the Bronx which was the countryside at that time so they are all buried there except the Vanderbilt who are on Staten Island because that is the birthplace of the Commodore, that's where they have their great Mausoleum. Fun fact whereas all the great mansions where turn down the mausoleum are still there and they are very impressive, people take tours of Wood-Lawn Cemetary just to see them, they're tours here on TH-cam to watch, it worth the time to watch one.

    • @LSTEdD1
      @LSTEdD1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Woodlawn Cemetery in the Bronx is world renowned. Check its web site . Alva Vanderbilt is there in her mausoleum and many other famous people. They are even having a tour of the fabulous women buried there on March 24.

  • @KellyBurnett138
    @KellyBurnett138 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That bank was a palace! Wow! 😍

  • @stopthelies3973
    @stopthelies3973 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Who is this Mamie Fish and why does she always throw parties for youngsters?

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks for the topic for my next video :)

    • @aprilknaus
      @aprilknaus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      She was quite a character! She was a real person, and was known for her eccentric parties and sharp tongue. Her given name is Marion Fish.

  • @mirisperezgarcia4031
    @mirisperezgarcia4031 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don't know the story but they believe that there is a character similar to Marian Brook since there are too many in real life or there are many situations and that fact catches my attention. I am from latinamerica

  • @Khatoon170
    @Khatoon170 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Last part of my research she was publicized in winter she entertained at her mansion at fifth avenue hosting teas most lavishly her father William back husband Marshall her children orme wilson jr Richard t Wilson in 1884 Carrie became noted society hostess on her own right despite her family at her marriage her father purchased them new home at 414 fifth avenue not far from her parents at 350 fifth as wedding present which was furnished Wilson father. For many years Carrie and her sister in law grace Vanderbilt . Shared box 3 at metropolitan opera house as hostesses on opening night thank you for for giving us chance to read learn improve our English language as well stay safe blessed good luck to you your dearest ones iam so sorry to be little long but reading and writing both are great ways to improve our English language as none native speakers

  • @loran3740
    @loran3740 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lâu quá rồi mới nghe anh Đức Phúc hát, thích quá đi thôi.

  • @nylanelson8660
    @nylanelson8660 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    At 3:42 you said she starved herself until bulimia which is the incorrect term! Bulimia s when one overeats & then purges to throw it all up. Anorexia is the correct term as she was Not eating & starving herself to get her way so she could marry the man she loved

  • @dionnegonsalves8188
    @dionnegonsalves8188 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ... why is he wearing 😎... I didn't think sunglasses were worn then...? 🤔 perhaps i'm wrong/misinformed. 🤷🏽‍♀️

  • @anamariecameron7874
    @anamariecameron7874 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    😮😮😮😮😮😮

  • @MauvaisetBourgeoise
    @MauvaisetBourgeoise ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They need me to write on this show because it has potential but it needs a renovation.

  • @Khatoon170
    @Khatoon170 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How are you doing happy mother day to yours and ours and all mothers we celebrate mother day in Arabic countries as well as England it’s different date around world you in USA and Canada on May we on March at same month international woman day actually we are as foreigners subscribers as overseas students want to increase our cultural level improve our English language as well thank god the TH-cam channels are as open universities for us did you know i have feeling iam as university students so that I gathered main information about famous celebrity you mentioned but I looked up for meaning of gilded age it’s period of gross materialism as blatant political corruption in USA during 1860s that gave tide to important novels of social political curriculum gilded age 1973 written by Mark Twain in collaboration with Charle Dudley carrier Astor her real name Caroline schermehorn Astor Wilson (1861 - 1948 ) she is American heiress social leader prominent member of New York society she was known as mrs Astor reigned supreme in New York society to extent that annual social schedule

  • @Khatoon170
    @Khatoon170 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How are you doing iam very happy to be su

  • @richardmckrell4899
    @richardmckrell4899 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Who's the hot thumbs up girl?