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  • @Anh-k9v
    @Anh-k9v 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

    1:12:14 -- I did a bit of digging (aka, I rewatched Ducktales (2017)) and I *think* that the blot dates back to a very, VERY old (and I'm talking 1930s old) Mickey Mouse villain debuting in the comics named "The Phantom Blot", which would explain--
    BOOK 6 SPOILERS (KIND OF) (I guess)
    --why those blot monsters are called "Phantoms". Other than that, though, I have literally no other reasons to suspect this. This is more like a hypothesis than a theory, so take it with a MASSIVE grain of salt lol.

  • @Charonyxx
    @Charonyxx ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Hoooooo boy. I just was searching up Twisted Wonderland videos and came across this. To say I'm excited that someone is talking about this game in a longform video is an understatement lol. Can't wait to see through it!

  • @Charonyxx
    @Charonyxx ปีที่แล้ว +21

    So, writing this after seeing how much I've written.. It's a lot lol. I would say I'm sorry, but, like you said, 90%of Twst is reading, so no harm done in a little more reading, right? But seriously, having this type of Twst content is really rare, so imma make use of it and talk about it below!
    Starting the video, I can already say I love the edits!
    7:15 *Raises hand* I couldn't help myself. After finding the opening on TH-cam, becoming entranced and finding out the game was only coming out in Japan without knowing if it'll ever get an English release? Had to jump into the Twst pit using fan translations and on screen translations lol
    12:00 Oof, I remember the discussion and discourse over the translations of certain characters, specifically Cater as you mention 😅. For the most part, the translators are fine in translating (sometimes REALLY funny), but there are times in which they change or remove certain lines from the Japanese version that would help the audience understand an aspect of the character that would ultimately learn more about who they are. A shame really, but, like you state in the video, there are resources that anyone can look up if they ever feel like a translation line is fishy (or they hear a character talk more than what is being translated).
    18:00 Ayo Adeuce shipper? Nice choice taking into account the chemistry they have that can be seen as platonic or more~ (I'm really into JamiAzu, mostly from Book 4 and the crumbs in events or vignettes)
    19:20 100% absolutely. The characters drew me in SO HARD. Any character interaction is gold and, in my opinion, the story gets better in each book, utilizing these characters more and more, seeing how great they are
    19:40 That is also another reason why I think they are strong characters: the full cast was revealed and the game spends time focusing on each of them be it through the main story, events, their vignettes, etc. which makes us more connected to them, spending time with them (not to bash characters in other games that are introduced as it progresses).
    21:50 Going through Book 7: Ouch, that hurts
    29:19 WATASHI YASASHI NO DE. Gotta thank Crowley for teaching me another Japanese word, at least XD
    32:47 I think that with tests, Yuu and Grim both take it and then the teachers probably add the result and divide it by two. I say this since I'm pretty sure it was implied in Book 3 when exam week started. From Ryouta's Musings blog 3-1 spoken by Grim: "The two of us are like two peas in a pod, so don’t hold me back, Yuu."
    33:54 OH. I DON'T LIKE THAT CURSED IMAGE.
    36:09 When the protagonists changed in the mangas, it felt really nice to have everyone's Yuu be validated since some people would argue "Oh, it's an all boys school. Yuu CAN'T be a girl!". Well, Miss Yuuka here shows us that every Yuu is valid which I love. Also I really like Yuuka, she's great, fabulous, amazing, spectacular-
    39:25 It took me awhile to warm up into calling the dorm leaders" Housewardens", but I agree. The title is pretty dope.
    43:29 Ignihyde actually got their dorm map in Book 7! I tried searching it up online, but apparently it's not showing up online :(. Damn it, they're such introverts that they don't even want their dorm showing up online lol. I could send over a screenshot of the dorm, if you like? Idk
    46:00 Must be a...Twisted narrative huh? SHOOT YOU MADE THE SAME JOKE AHHH
    50:43 That is exactly why I started liking Ace: his straightforwardness and bluntness. Telling hard truths to people that need it. Admire him in that aspect
    51:40 YESS DEUCEY BOYYY. SO SWEET, SO GREAT, AMAZING GOOD BOI
    54:20 Yo I LOVE egophiliacs artwork. It's just *chef's kiss*
    54:49 ACE-AP
    55:21 AGH, the perfect mask that Cater puts on where most people taking him on surface level miss his depths is such a shame. Reading his vignettes and seeing him as an actual person instead of the wacky self centered guy he projects himself as is-augh I don't even know how to describe it
    56:34 Hey are you into Kingdom Hearts too? I know you used a KH meme before, but I wasn't sure if you chose it purely for that bit.
    56:50 Also Mystic Messenger!? Feels weird seeing stuff I like referenced in a video based on my ultimate hyperfixation
    59:27 So, the 1st years in a dorm share a room with 4 other students, so Ace and Deuce share a room with two other boys. The 2nd and 3rd years, however, only share a room with another person, so 2 in a room (as seen with Jade and Floyd, it's only those two in a room). And the housewarden gets the biggest room all to themselves (so much space for a studious goldfish). With Cater and Trey, they both shared a room their 1st and 2nd year, but, as 3rd years, they have a new roommate so, after giving a long winded explanation, yeah, they were past roomies (but Trey hasn't stopped trying to get close to Cater, even when he has his walls up :( )
    59:42 LOL LOVE THAT EDIT
    1:00:50 The fact that many people still consider Trey as having no personality and being the most normal is hilarious to me. That's exactly what this dentist admirer wants you to think. His goal has been achieved. He's great
    1:02:30 I don't know if this is a hot take, cold take, medium rare take, etc. But I do prefer the English translation of Paint the Roses than Doodle Suit. I get the explanation, but Paint the Roses sounds better and gives more impact considering, well *gestures hands at Riddle*
    1:03:58 Honestly idk. Theories abound
    1:07:24 THIS. ACE. SPEECH. ONE OF MY FAVORITES IN ALL OF TWST SO Far. Always feel so moved whenever I hear it
    1:14:43 So with that little comment on the voice acting, just want to exclaim that the VOICE ACTING IS FANTASTIC. The emotional beats are amazing with voice acting and it's just GJDNSODB
    SPOILERS FOR CHAPTER 1 END FOR ANYONE READING THIS AND NOT HAVING PLAYED THE GAME
    1:15:46 The only thing we know about Riddle's father is that he must be alive, since Riddle has a voice line in one of his cards that says he hopes his parents would have a good relationship, signifying that he must be alive at the very least. Don't know if they're divorced or if they just have a Rocky relationship, but it's clear his mother was the one taking the reigns in Riddle's development
    1:16:18 So, the Riddling begins... But, to be serious, Riddle is the character that I saw and really wanted to know more about. He was my favorite character at the time and, once we got to his backstory, it hit me sooo hard. Although not having the same experience, that constant pressure to get good grades as a kid while not even understanding completely how it would help you, just doing what the adults told you to do, was painfully relatable. Which is how I built another connection to this game, in which I seriously started crying in his backstory and the aftermath. I had cried before in a few games, but these tears were the ones that really struck a chord within me. So, I guess that was one of the things that got me deeply invested in these characters: the emotions and relatability of them, be it justified or unjustified emotions that humans feel
    1:19:20 I don't think this needs to be said since it's pretty obvious, but SCREW RIDDLE'S MOM. BETTER NOT SHOW UP IN THE QUEENDOM OF ROSES EVENT
    "What rule should I follow to get rid of this pain?" That line. That fricking line.
    1:23:07 That heart rending cry...
    1:25:30 What I appreciate is that they don't make Riddle take a 180 and completely disregard rules and act like everyone else. No. Hating it or not, the rules his Mom made him follow and severe obedience to higher authority is still ingrained in him, but, little by little, with the help of his friends and the passage of time weakening the effects, he can become better
    1:27:53 Ooh the Persona 5 Haru treatment snub. Powerful. Haru did deserve better and Royal helped a little, but not too much in Haru's introduction
    1:29:15 The friendship between Ace, Deuce, Grim and Yuu my beloved
    1:36:42 So, I have come to really like the rhythmics and have accepted in playing them (except for the purple notes. I loathe you)
    Also, fun aside, I've been writing these comments in my notebook app and I wrote so much that I had to open a new page in this app lol
    1:36:53 YES SOMEONE ELSE ADMITS THE BOPS FOUND IN RHYTHMICS/TWISTUNES (Official Twst OST when pls)
    1:38:12 Smug octopus man, enjoying my suffering in trying to get those gems
    I really really enjoyed this video. The jokes, the roasting of the boys while still sincerely loving them, everything. I cannot wait to follow your journey in explaining the rest of the Twst story, it's ups and downs and these boys who really need therapy but we're the best they've got. Also, just want to praise you for adding subtitles on a 1 HOUR AND 40 MINUTE VIDEO. So, although I eagerly await a new video from you, please take a break and don't let unnecessary burnout and tiredness get to you :)

    • @BKLily
      @BKLily  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Oh my gosh, thank you so much for this comment it really made my day!! I loved you highlighting the video segments couldn't stop smiling through it 😊 and thanks for the clarifications! After I recorded I thought about the roommates situation more but forgot to add it to the video haha
      Have a lovely rest of the day 😊

  • @jellydonut4911
    @jellydonut4911 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I just got caught up with the main story (book 7) so i was hungry for more twst content😭😭this video was so good! the development bit was so interesting- i knew almost nothing abt that- i had no idea this game was so new! theres so much content and such a big fanbase i assumed it was older! I also forgot hopw good the Rose-Red Tyrant was and how tragic Riddle is,,,the manga art really turned it up a notch to horror story- and I LOVE the translations/localizations they can get so out of pocket for no reason- especially Idia and Cater- wtf are they even talking abt half the time- Anyway love the video I look forward to whatever u make abt it next!!

  • @sorcerersapprentice
    @sorcerersapprentice 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    50:52 To be fair, I can understand why the game doesn't allow that. While there would be no issues if someone has a male Yuu, if someone has a female one like me, then sleeping in the same bed would be rather uncomfortable and inappropriate, even if they aren't actually doing it like that.

    • @akisatsuki8444
      @akisatsuki8444 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Even if it was a male Yuu I’m not sure if the game would allow it 😂

  • @_ERORR_404_
    @_ERORR_404_ 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I put off watching this for a year- glad I finally did I LOVE THIS!

  • @curlysue4023
    @curlysue4023 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I love your humor holy shit 😭

    • @BKLily
      @BKLily  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Thank you!!

  • @Mizukifocus5
    @Mizukifocus5 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    More twisted wonderland content for me to consume. Thank you

  • @atotalfiasco4213
    @atotalfiasco4213 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    That fishbowl edit on Ace made me fucking s c r e a m laughing christ-
    I'm so happy you're making this series of videos!!! It's been super fun so far, and god I can't wait to see you cover Book 7 (whenever it concludes I assume)

  • @Internetcockroach1
    @Internetcockroach1 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This was such a great video and I CANT wait for the next one, amazing deep dive ❤️❤️

  • @dredreadful4520
    @dredreadful4520 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You did SUCH a wonderful job with this video!!! Tysm for making it!!!

  • @guila5637
    @guila5637 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Honestly I myself haven't seen much of the dialog cuz I played jp, most of these are a bit surprise to me. I've seen some tumblr posts during it's time but didn't know localization was this bad, I looked it up and what happened to Sebek's lines?! that's not Sebek that's just a fanboy in the distance they couldn't capture character for almost anyone it's so dry and so many lines are cut. Made me feel ashamed as a translator.
    ps: I get that those translators put work into it but it is really a shame Disney most likely made them cut out so many things before it's finished, I honestly hope to never work with them.

    • @BKLily
      @BKLily  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The English version definitely makes some wild choices when it comes to adapting the lines over. Maybe it has to do with Disney's NA market compared to the JPN one? Either way, it's still frustrating to have to jump between the versions to understand the true aspects of the characters and story 😢

  • @justarandomartist6502
    @justarandomartist6502 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Respect to you for subtitling the whole video lol

  • @sunamoroll
    @sunamoroll 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    You are so insightful and relaxing to listen to 😄 Looking forward to more of your content, whether it is about TWST or anything else!

  • @Kira-xs1zv
    @Kira-xs1zv หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jesus Christ, I am a fan too but WOW…..this video made my NIGHT

  • @Sof12
    @Sof12 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Moooooore moooooore this was so gooood

  • @GenAqua
    @GenAqua 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I hope you do another video.

  • @bug5244
    @bug5244 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I KNEW I GOT INTO TWST THE YEAR OF THE JP RELEASE BUT I DIDN'T REALIZE IT WAS A MONTH OR TWO AFTER INITIALL RELEASE

  • @plurabell6128
    @plurabell6128 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    BANGER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @remkerr1245
    @remkerr1245 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This need's more likes.

  • @honeynutfemios5584
    @honeynutfemios5584 ปีที่แล้ว

    Heard of people's reaction to Octanivelle Manga Yuu, Yuuta.

  • @lindawilson837
    @lindawilson837 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    2?