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I get Aaron’s argument even if I don’t agree with it.From what I understand is Eric is arguing that the tonality of the Tag Man fits the spirit of the tag while Aaron wants the pun. Calvin I think is trying to express (not very well) the idea that puns are cheap. I’m with Eric here.
God dammit, the point of the joke is that there's no reason or connection to his name being tag man. If you have him tag in or playing tag it's no longer just the tag man.
Aaron doesn't get the fact that the Tag Man isn't supposed to make sense FOR A REASON. That reason being that they put stuff that don't make sense in the tag most episodes. So *TAG MAN* (first layer) is in a *TAG* (second layer) that makes *NO SENSE* (third layer). Come on Aaron, not only it's great but genius. Pretty sure he is over protective for not understanding at first... No offense. Aaron is great btw. Biggest heart of the bunch...
Tag-man was more creative than Aaron thought. One definition of "Tagging" someone means to strike someone with a powerful blow. So, he not only existed in just the tag, he was literally tagging everyone during the tag.
First was early first season I believe when he was supposed to pass the butter I think, second time was to squirt ketchup I think and this episode was the third I believe but I might just be remembering wrong but I don’t believe so.
Another layer to the Tagman thing. Sometimes Tag is used as an expression meaning to hit. So he is the tag (literally), he is in the tag, and he is actively tagging people the entire time.
It just didn’t quite make sense why/how it appeared out of nowhere. Everything else in this episode is perfectly logical and made sense. Except the robot. It felt like lazy writing to me.
@@busiestytnerd5175 this episode is literally not perfectly logical, that's the point of it. Oh yeah! I definitely knew that the world would be turned into an orange before it happened!
Tagman - One of the lines he said while fighting: "did you get any of that?" Just like the tag at the end of each episode for "Harmonius Claptrap" So yes - You missed the joke Aaron.
its funny how people in the comments are saying "this episode ruined the show for me" without giving any reason why it was bad for them lmao. just leave your comment in your head if you have no real input
Same reason we hated She-Hulk's ending. It's completely world breaking. At least Rick and Morty is it's own thing and has had its meta moments before, as opposed to She-Hulk which broke the entire universe over a decade in the making.
@@oIRONITEo Ok...I'm going to tell you the same thing I told other people that had this same thought about She-Hulk ending. Meta stuff is NEVER suppose to be taken seriously. At least to the point where you think it will ACTUALLY effect the universe. It doesn't. And even when it does, you just don't think about it. It's very loose with canon. I swear you guys are literally the very people that She-Hulk and the writers in this show make fun of. And will continue to make fun of if you keep reacting like this and taking it SO seriously XD EXACTLY the same way Eric and Calvin are making fun of Aaron for not getting the tagman joke XD
I think the big thing I don't like about Meta episodes in general is that it pulls the veil back, and I don't really think that's something you can put back. Rick and morty already did struggle having any stakes with how quickly Rick became godlike, and while you can focus on the already depressing nature of nothing meaning with alternate dimensions, adding the meta layer on top of that just start making things even more hollow. Revealing the meta nature of it with a character who equally realizes it is like the "It's all a dream ending", it doesn't technically remove from the story, but theres a now hollow feeling remaining.
@@boastaboutgames2747 Eh, you still have to be careful about it. As you said, meta stuff isn't supposed to be taken seriously most of the time (never is heavily debatable, as there are many series where the meta is actually a large point of it in a serious manner). But the issue arises when you take it into the context of the show, the whole point is immersion into the world, meta breaks this immersion. As you said, its not supposed to be taken seriously, but when it becomes a large focus of the show, it feels as if we shouldn't take the show itself seriously, or care at all. We lose stakes outside of just mindlessly watch and be entertained.
@@itsurokawasaki4394 you've commented this 3 times. Are you in love with this man? Lmfao. Genuinely pathetic how you're calling people simps yet do this.
The one line I appreciated most in this episode was when Campbell asked Rick to go on "classic R&M adventures like season 1" and he responds with "I hate that note, what does that even mean?!" I love that because that's my reaction to everyone in the fandom that says that. Seriously, that's not a critique and Rick and Morty have been doing adventures that are just as good or even better than season 1. Doesn't mean there aren't bad episodes, doesn't mean some seasons are better than others, but that doesn't mean Rick and Morty have lost their edge. Rick and Morty is just as good as when it started, if not better!
Totally. For all the classic episodes in S1/2, there are some shitty ones as well. They tend to have 1-2 plot heavy episodes and the rest are just adventures, and that has continued for the most part in the past 5 seasons, and seemingly this season as well.
That line made my face cringe into my skull. I almost shut the episode off. The fact that the writers would be confused by something so straight forward... like how in tf are you unable identify the ways in which your own show has evolved? I mean whether or not you like the show better now, hate it or like it just as much, you're delusional if you can't recognize how the show has changed since season 2.
@@brianburkhardt3692 The sense of humor is entirely different for starters. I put on almost any older episode and find myself consistently laughing beginning to end, even having seen it multiple times, while modern episodes tend to illicit a couple light chuckles at best. Obviously humor is subjective, which is why I'm not saying it's objectively "not funny" now, but man is the difference in comedy night and day when directly comparing the new to the old. Also the sense of wonder the show used to have is gone; all the characters are desensitized which leads to the viewer being desensitized. Every other episode the writers are jacking themselves off -- the worst thing a show or brand can do is endlessly bitterly reference it's criticisms, like jesus I'm here to watch a show, not the writers opinion about my opinion of said show. It was mildly funny the first couple times, but it's gone from giving off cute self awareness to desperate over-indulgence... or insecure hyper-focus? Also, old episodes used to be great at taking an over-the-top insanely complex subject and executing it with a sort of elegant simplicity... nowadays the episodes stuff themselves to the brim with twists and turns and nonsense, it all feels less focused, purposeful and neatly wrapped. It's like they've gone from expertly navigating these high concept sci-fi ideas to throwing rainbow colored shit at the wall so the fans stay stimulated enough. Half the time I feel insulted while watching. Again, people can like whatever they want, not trying to be a hater, but how one can watch a classic episode and a modern episode next to each other and not immediately feel the difference is beyond me. It's like the writers' whole approach and objective for the show has changed, in a way I can't pinpoint of course because I'm not them. Weird that they seemingly can't pinpoint it either... or just won't. Also the show feels nowhere NEAR as off the cuff and easy going as it used to, every line feels meticulously written and performed, which can be a good or bad thing but it's certainly a difference. I could keep going with differences but I just realized I've wasted 20 minutes on a youtube comment nobody gives a shit about and I'm bored now lol. I'll clarify tho that I like some new episodes and dislike others, I'm not a full on hater.
@@cryb0rg that’s fair, I think after S3 when they got the full deal to make 10 seasons the pacing definitely pulled back some. I do think some of the complaints are with how characters have grown or changed, but I’ll admit the humor has changed as well- I just don’t think it’s that far removed from the older seasons. They still address pretty high concept ideas, like the sleep-selves earlier this season, and not everything in S1/2 was super high concept, like Raising Gazorpazorp, which was more of a general parody of teen dramas.
LMFAO Half of the people in this comments section yelling that this episode was "nonsense" or "had no point" are clearly not the sharpest tools in the shed. It's literally a story about the writers and the difficulty of writing Rick and Morty episodes when all people want is "meta" just for the sake of being "meta".
@@roxtechs that is also part, the episode is making fun of the people that want more meta, but at the same time it's making the people that hate meta relate to Rick (who is absolutely tired of it).
I love how Rick said the butter morty was the best episode. It’s my favorite flash in the credits and hoped to see it but likely never will. At least it got a shout out
I guess the they proved that what they think and said is a bad premise for an episode is actually a bad premise and couldn't carry a full story.... Don't really think that was necessary, but I hope they've gotten it out of their system now.
Tag man was 4 layers - 1st - each character had a tag (name) - 2- wrestling has tags to switch wrestlers 3- Tag man said "i don't need a tag, i am the tag" meaning you don't need to switch i am the tag - the only fighter you need. 4- in a game of tag you are the hitter or tagger to strike the next opponent
Tagman is literally beating up everyone that goes to him. E.g everyone going to the tag of an episode or movie. You guys, without knowing it, were part of the joke like everyone else
16:25 Isn't the "TAGMAN YEAA" scream the weird sound that comes right after it and is used after every episode? I mean it literally says "this is it right here" at the top lol
Yeah the Cats are named: Snowball, Snowball2, Snowball3, Snowball4, and Finally Snowball2(previous 5 renamed 2 "to save money on a new dish.") "Isn't that a cheat?" Principal Skinner "I guess it is, Principal Tamzarian" Lisa
You can say they didn’t really sell the doll because they hate that kind of shit, but you know there’s going to be a Funko Pop for every character in this episode, including Tagman and Marvin The Cowardly Security Guard.
Now I want them to react to The Simpsons. It doesn't have to be the entire series, just have the viewers vote on the Top 25 episodes that they want Blind Wave to react to.
Honestly, I don't think I've laughed so hard with "Rick & Morty" as I did with this episode. From the opening titles gag to the whole Jesus montage, I had tears in my eyes. It was so well done and absolutely batshit crazy!
The formula was accidentally created long time ago, but it was Campbell who actually created the concept. For example: Newton obviously didn't invent gravity, and many people have exploited it way before he was born, but he was the one that made it a concept of study and designed a formula to understand it.
Yeah, I kinda wish we would get over it too. Having everything be based around the heroes journey is just creating a media culture of repetition. The monomyth is based on chery picking which stories he looked at and being super reductive to other people's cultures to make them fit his own conservative point of view. It's also wildly sexist, even for it's time.
@@yiledute Read Jung's text on self actualization, Rank's "Mythic Hero", Raglan's "The Hero, a Study in Tradition, Myth and Drama", Propp's "Morphology of the tale", "Historical Roots of the wonder tale", then look up their publication dates, then look up when "The Hero with a Thousand Faces" was published, then look up research on the topic - there are lots of professional articles and pieces that talk about actual history of research of folklore, instead of hit piece3s by journalists who don't know much but heard that Lucas used Campbell's work for Star Wars. I know that it's common human trait to believe the first thing they are told, and even even more so if they hear that thing repeatedly. Then if contradicting information comes, it has to have much more proof then original one so that the person might have had a chance to change their point of view.
@@itsurokawasaki4394There’s nothing wrong with the show nor is there anything wrong with advertising/making money. Y’all trying so hard to find a reason to hate this show
@26:30 he says it would be stupid if flashback was there, and didn't do a flash back. I agree. If tag man wasn't in the tag it'd have been stupid. But he was in the tag, he fulfilled his purpose. Flashback didn't really *do* anything, he just gave them a flashback.
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What a great way to return!!! Awesome episode! Really crazy in overall and confusing at the beginning.
You could react to just the first few seasons of The Simpsons. Only the first, like, 7 or 8 were any good. Maybe less than that. The really classic episodes everyone always references were mostly in the first 5 seasons or something like that.
That was a great episode and I loved the conversation you guys had about it, but the only thing I ended up thinking about after watching this is that you never watched The Simpsons. Do yourself a favor and watch at least up until season 9 even if it's not streamed. those early seasons were pure gold when they had some great writers back then. I've stopped watching it for a while now because it's not what it used to be but those early seasons are what I still grade all cartoon series on and most don't hit that benchmark for me.
Not the biggest fan of this episode. When the show goes meta as part of the story I tend to enjoy it, but when "being meta" is the story, not so much (the Story Train episode was one of my least favorites of that season for that reason). I understand it's more that I'm not the public for these types of episodes and not that the episode itself is trash, but I wouldn't mind if we had less of this in the future.
I feel like the tagman was a shit idea, but I also feel like it was intended to be bad. They could've gone with a more creative idea or become even more lazier and have it just be a white screen, make something so bad to the point it's funny how bad it is. Nope they went in the middle and made smth so....something, I'm with Calvin I love it more when others complain about it. Either way It felt like a silly episode and got a few laughs out of my grumpy face so can't complain.
Tag man was more creative then you and Aaron realize he was literally raging people he is like a one punch man character I saw him as a badass you are missing the point of tag man
There is a creator tag on the vanity plate at the end of every episode (fremulon). The tag man is the voice that screams when justin roilands vanity plate shows up. You can see tag man increasing his destructiveness, and by the time the vanity plate goes up, the voice becomes distorted. Tag man is in within the same voice range as MR meeseeks or Mr Poopy ButtHole, Aaron get over it!
This is officially the episode where Harmon jumps the shark on the Meta stuff with me… his peak was with Abed being meta on community and earlier Rick and Morty meta, but at this point he’s not being meta to service the story, he’s using meta to be the basis of the story which is just lazy. That being said, all the pun names were funny and every second Rhett Con was on scene was pure fucking gold and a glimpse of what peak meta Harmon was, super clever.
The portal pistol the Dinosaurs give Rick is supposed to be superior to Rick’s version but all it can do that Rick’s portal gun can’t is just show the user where the portal goes. The only times Rick didn’t know where the portal went was only when something was wrong with his portal gun or somebody else used the portal gun. Having the ability to see where the portal goes is thus a useless feature to him.
Thinking "Ret Connie" who retcons stuff and "Previous Leon" who makes flash backs is creative when they have one gimmick while hating "Tag Man" who's in the tag because he's got one gimmick is wild. Why is naming the characters exactly what they are creative!!
There was no Ret Connie. There was Connie TinuityError and Rhett Con. Also, Previous Leon didn't make flashbacks, he trapped people in fake "previously on" segments, Flash Back was the one that made flashbacks.
Filler doesn't mean stuff that wasn't in the original manga (or anything else), it is just how most people describe it. But actually filler means something to prolong time between main plot (if there is main plot). Filler can easily be canon to manga or non canon. Any episodes not related to main plot or current arc plot - fillers. Which brings us to the point that Naruto has many episodes that are non canon to the manga, but not fillers to the main plot, cuz they explain so many important stuff that they could be easily considered more plot related than original canon episodes...
If you complain about them not focusing on evil morty and stuff like that, you are the one that hasn’t been focusing. Episodes like this are the writers saying “shut up and deal with it. We don’t care.” So the more you complain, the more they do this and the more they will tell you to screw off.
If you ever get around to it, you should at least watch the first 8 - 10 seasons of the Simpsons. It starts dipping after S8, but I enjoyed it up til 10. I’d absolutely be checking out every reaction.
I’m so glad Aaron finally called out Calvins immediate and unjustifiable opposition to his opinions. I feel calvins been doing this a lot recently. Aaron says something and Calvin just try’s to get Eric onside with opposing him but Calvin never really has a point. And then he waits for Eric to say something smart and jumps on that point and pretends it’s his. Aaron asking him to explain himself before Eric had said anything showed that Calvin didn’t really have a point and was just being pedantic. It’s soured a lot of the BTAS reactions where Calvin is being extremely nit picky and it’s a shame because Calvin has a unique voice and he’s just been agreeing with Eric rather than expressing his thoughts recently. Especially in Star Wars. Whereas Eric and Aaron disagree and discuss healthily.
But look at it from the other perspective. Aaron can get extremely frustrating a **lot** of the time when he's constantly asking for explanations to things where the whole point is it doesn't need to be explained. TBF it's a wonder Calvin didn't just turn over and smack him for constantly asking about "Tagman". Have you watched them watch any anime? "Why do they look like that?" "It's just the animation style." "Yeah but why do they look like that? Why are they making those faces? Why is his forehead blue?" "Because it's the animation style." "But why? Is it really happening? Why does no one else see it" "Because its the animation style". Aaron needs his explanations of things to fit in a certain box and if it doesn't, he says it's bad. Half the things they watch don't fit into that box. And answering the same questions over and over again can get super frustrating. If your opinions are formed from a flawed basis, your opinions are bad and **should** be shot down off-hand.
@@smashbrandiscootch719 Yeah, I'm with Calvin here as well. Aaron can be my favourite when it comes to other stuff, but when he doesn't listen to reason he's unbearable.
Glad I'm not the only one that's noticed it. He also seem bored while watching the shows and movies more often than before. It's like Calvin can't enjoy anything they watch anymore and has to nitpick to death. Has become very annoying to watch
@@brucesimmons5517 Absolutely, I know I was super harsh on Aaron there. I should state for the record that I don't dislike Aaron at all. And honestly, there are a lot of times when he catches onto things or predicts things way before anyone else and some of his breakdowns or theories are so dang on the money it's crazy. Just in this particular situation and in situations like the hypothetical i mentioned above...I absolutely get Calvin.
tag man is a fourth wall breaker, like how everyone expects a tag scene in every marvel movie or star wars show. its also meta as a fu to reactors reviewing the show trying to get more out of a perfect show
Its even weirder to remember that Rick is aware hes on a tv show cause in the Rick and morty multiverse there are universes that treat their adventures like a show
I might be in the minority but I agree with Aaron. I got the joke about Tagman, but I didn't find it very funny or interesting. I mean, if he had been running through a field playing tag with Mr Poopy Butthole or something that would've probably made more sense or been better
Dude your missing the point tag man is more creative then the whole episode you and Aaron are missing the point he was literally raging people with one punch he is like another variation of one punch man that’s how most people see it y’all are missing the understanding of it man
I agree with *Aaron.* The tag was clearly one of those *Justin Roiland* ad lib riffs. It was just not clever, nor funny. The concept, _maayyybe._ But beyond that, I found it annoying.
@@dumbprimeministers1763 Ultimately, there is nothing more to say here beyond sharing your own opinion of whether or not you found it funny. Humor being subjective, that's all there is to the subject of the tag. I found it annoying and unfunny. With 8 billion people on the planet, I absolutely accept that there will be a great many that did find it funny. There's nothing to overthink. There's literally no argument here.
@@dumbprimeministers1763 Dude your missing the point tag man is more creative then the whole episode you and Aaron are missing the point he was literally raging people with one punch he is like another variation of one punch man that’s how most people see it y’all are missing the understanding of it man
@@CaesiusX Dude your missing the point tag man is more creative then the whole episode you and Aaron are missing the point he was literally raging people with one punch he is like another variation of one punch man that’s how most people see it y’all are missing the understanding of it man
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can u make the dumb guy stop repeating every line
It' Story Lord, from episode 6, season 4 - "Never Ricking Morty"
I love that you guys take notes
Apologies, but what studio microphone do you use they pick all of you perfectly and are ages away. Thank you
Having the "story" lord being smothered to death by Rick and Morty merchandising seems like a slightly pointed metaphor
indeed! good observation
I get Aaron’s argument even if I don’t agree with it.From what I understand is Eric is arguing that the tonality of the Tag Man fits the spirit of the tag while Aaron wants the pun. Calvin I think is trying to express (not very well) the idea that puns are cheap.
I’m with Eric here.
God dammit, the point of the joke is that there's no reason or connection to his name being tag man. If you have him tag in or playing tag it's no longer just the tag man.
THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!
The episode is aware of itself and the tag is also.
The only reason to the name was that he was IN the episode’s tag. After a whole episode of meta, that shouldn’t require more explanation than that.
"Tag" can also define a powerful strike.
So um, take that...
Aaron doesn't get the fact that the Tag Man isn't supposed to make sense FOR A REASON. That reason being that they put stuff that don't make sense in the tag most episodes. So *TAG MAN* (first layer) is in a *TAG* (second layer) that makes *NO SENSE* (third layer). Come on Aaron, not only it's great but genius. Pretty sure he is over protective for not understanding at first... No offense. Aaron is great btw. Biggest heart of the bunch...
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good episode, like it
Tag-man was more creative than Aaron thought. One definition of "Tagging" someone means to strike someone with a powerful blow. So, he not only existed in just the tag, he was literally tagging everyone during the tag.
"come and get your tags"
yea it went over Aaron's head forsure
Aaron is more self-aware than all of you Rick and Morty simps, that joke is as bad as this show you're poorly attempting to cover for.
@@itsurokawasaki4394 Why are you upset?
He also said "You're it"
I thought of that tag and missed the end tag bit the first time
They are definitely going to do a episode were the butter robot takes over/ gets a real purpose in life. It's like the 3rd time we have seen him.
And the robot turns morty into butter and tries to melt him. I love it
when was the 2nd time?
When was the second?
First was early first season I believe when he was supposed to pass the butter I think, second time was to squirt ketchup I think and this episode was the third I believe but I might just be remembering wrong but I don’t believe so.
Complaining about Tagman in the way that Aaron did is like complaining about Captain America post-credits scene in Homecoming for being uncreative.
In a way you are correct, since both are terrible.
And most people did do that
Yea cause it's dumb either way
I agree with both Aaron and you. Yes, it IS the same thing. And yes, it IS dumb.
That shit was hilarious, no one will ever convince me otherwise
I didn't get the Tagman joke at first, but seeing Aaron's rant I get the joke and found it funny
Is this Calvin's personal account?
@@more-reasons6655 XD
I never thought I'd see the day when Aaron thought a pun was too stupid. So he does have a limit.
Another layer to the Tagman thing. Sometimes Tag is used as an expression meaning to hit. So he is the tag (literally), he is in the tag, and he is actively tagging people the entire time.
He’s like another version of one punch man kinda 😂
How did y’all keep a straight face during the butter robot line … that killed me 😂
@@solusmaximus2566 Yeah it's the same joke, but about 5 seasons later as a subtle nod to that episode..
@@findingchemoo plus the “you fucking kidding me” is a hilarious escalation from “Oh my god”
It just didn’t quite make sense why/how it appeared out of nowhere. Everything else in this episode is perfectly logical and made sense. Except the robot. It felt like lazy writing to me.
@@busiestytnerd5175 this episode is literally not perfectly logical, that's the point of it. Oh yeah! I definitely knew that the world would be turned into an orange before it happened!
@@findingchemoo made perfect narrative sense to me. Logic ≠ predictability
Aaron not liking the Tag is so meta LMAO
Tagman - One of the lines he said while fighting: "did you get any of that?" Just like the tag at the end of each episode for "Harmonius Claptrap"
So yes - You missed the joke Aaron.
Tag Man was the 6th member of the Self-Referential Six.
omg genius
I thought Rhett Caan was?
its funny how people in the comments are saying "this episode ruined the show for me" without giving any reason why it was bad for them lmao. just leave your comment in your head if you have no real input
Same reason we hated She-Hulk's ending. It's completely world breaking. At least Rick and Morty is it's own thing and has had its meta moments before, as opposed to She-Hulk which broke the entire universe over a decade in the making.
great episode so fun
@@oIRONITEo Ok...I'm going to tell you the same thing I told other people that had this same thought about She-Hulk ending. Meta stuff is NEVER suppose to be taken seriously. At least to the point where you think it will ACTUALLY effect the universe. It doesn't. And even when it does, you just don't think about it. It's very loose with canon. I swear you guys are literally the very people that She-Hulk and the writers in this show make fun of. And will continue to make fun of if you keep reacting like this and taking it SO seriously XD
EXACTLY the same way Eric and Calvin are making fun of Aaron for not getting the tagman joke XD
I think the big thing I don't like about Meta episodes in general is that it pulls the veil back, and I don't really think that's something you can put back. Rick and morty already did struggle having any stakes with how quickly Rick became godlike, and while you can focus on the already depressing nature of nothing meaning with alternate dimensions, adding the meta layer on top of that just start making things even more hollow. Revealing the meta nature of it with a character who equally realizes it is like the "It's all a dream ending", it doesn't technically remove from the story, but theres a now hollow feeling remaining.
@@boastaboutgames2747 Eh, you still have to be careful about it. As you said, meta stuff isn't supposed to be taken seriously most of the time (never is heavily debatable, as there are many series where the meta is actually a large point of it in a serious manner). But the issue arises when you take it into the context of the show, the whole point is immersion into the world, meta breaks this immersion. As you said, its not supposed to be taken seriously, but when it becomes a large focus of the show, it feels as if we shouldn't take the show itself seriously, or care at all. We lose stakes outside of just mindlessly watch and be entertained.
Aaron's anti-tagman rant is the intellectual successor to Eric's anti-speedforce parents rant.
I think brett con broke out of the show he retconned himself, they don’t mention him after the jump to the snow place
@@graystark240 Aaron is more self-aware than all of you Rick and Morty simps, that joke is as bad as this show you're poorly attempting to cover for.
@@itsurokawasaki4394 that's....not the joke he was talking about.
@@itsurokawasaki4394 you've commented this 3 times. Are you in love with this man? Lmfao. Genuinely pathetic how you're calling people simps yet do this.
The one line I appreciated most in this episode was when Campbell asked Rick to go on "classic R&M adventures like season 1" and he responds with "I hate that note, what does that even mean?!" I love that because that's my reaction to everyone in the fandom that says that. Seriously, that's not a critique and Rick and Morty have been doing adventures that are just as good or even better than season 1. Doesn't mean there aren't bad episodes, doesn't mean some seasons are better than others, but that doesn't mean Rick and Morty have lost their edge. Rick and Morty is just as good as when it started, if not better!
Totally. For all the classic episodes in S1/2, there are some shitty ones as well. They tend to have 1-2 plot heavy episodes and the rest are just adventures, and that has continued for the most part in the past 5 seasons, and seemingly this season as well.
That line made my face cringe into my skull. I almost shut the episode off. The fact that the writers would be confused by something so straight forward... like how in tf are you unable identify the ways in which your own show has evolved? I mean whether or not you like the show better now, hate it or like it just as much, you're delusional if you can't recognize how the show has changed since season 2.
@@cryb0rg what’s the difference then?
@@brianburkhardt3692 The sense of humor is entirely different for starters. I put on almost any older episode and find myself consistently laughing beginning to end, even having seen it multiple times, while modern episodes tend to illicit a couple light chuckles at best. Obviously humor is subjective, which is why I'm not saying it's objectively "not funny" now, but man is the difference in comedy night and day when directly comparing the new to the old. Also the sense of wonder the show used to have is gone; all the characters are desensitized which leads to the viewer being desensitized. Every other episode the writers are jacking themselves off -- the worst thing a show or brand can do is endlessly bitterly reference it's criticisms, like jesus I'm here to watch a show, not the writers opinion about my opinion of said show. It was mildly funny the first couple times, but it's gone from giving off cute self awareness to desperate over-indulgence... or insecure hyper-focus? Also, old episodes used to be great at taking an over-the-top insanely complex subject and executing it with a sort of elegant simplicity... nowadays the episodes stuff themselves to the brim with twists and turns and nonsense, it all feels less focused, purposeful and neatly wrapped. It's like they've gone from expertly navigating these high concept sci-fi ideas to throwing rainbow colored shit at the wall so the fans stay stimulated enough. Half the time I feel insulted while watching. Again, people can like whatever they want, not trying to be a hater, but how one can watch a classic episode and a modern episode next to each other and not immediately feel the difference is beyond me. It's like the writers' whole approach and objective for the show has changed, in a way I can't pinpoint of course because I'm not them. Weird that they seemingly can't pinpoint it either... or just won't. Also the show feels nowhere NEAR as off the cuff and easy going as it used to, every line feels meticulously written and performed, which can be a good or bad thing but it's certainly a difference. I could keep going with differences but I just realized I've wasted 20 minutes on a youtube comment nobody gives a shit about and I'm bored now lol. I'll clarify tho that I like some new episodes and dislike others, I'm not a full on hater.
@@cryb0rg that’s fair, I think after S3 when they got the full deal to make 10 seasons the pacing definitely pulled back some. I do think some of the complaints are with how characters have grown or changed, but I’ll admit the humor has changed as well- I just don’t think it’s that far removed from the older seasons. They still address pretty high concept ideas, like the sleep-selves earlier this season, and not everything in S1/2 was super high concept, like Raising Gazorpazorp, which was more of a general parody of teen dramas.
LMFAO Half of the people in this comments section yelling that this episode was "nonsense" or "had no point" are clearly not the sharpest tools in the shed.
It's literally a story about the writers and the difficulty of writing Rick and Morty episodes when all people want is "meta" just for the sake of being "meta".
See at least you get it.
I don’t think people like Rick and Morty being so meta.
@@bengreen9620 Whats crazy is they literally told people IN the episode what the episode was about and people still don't get it hahaha!
@@roxtechs See, that's totally valid. I have no problem with that. What annoys me is people calling it bad just because they don't get it.
@@roxtechs that is also part, the episode is making fun of the people that want more meta, but at the same time it's making the people that hate meta relate to Rick (who is absolutely tired of it).
I'm surprised that the Mythology Train episode was so disliked; I really liked that one. The Jesus summon had me laughing so damn hard.
Loved the train. Loved this one.
Same loved that episode. I think some people just don’t really like the show being meta I don’t like meta humor in general.
This episode was pure genius.
They're missing the point that tag man was literally "tagging" people.
I also was luke warm over the tag, and liked it more as Aaron liked it less. 😂
Damn, why did people hate this episode so much?
If something isn't perfect, the whiney ones always make sure everyone else knows how upset they are.
It was so clever i loved the self awareness, great way to diversify the episodes imo
This episode was great. I’ve seen people complain that it’s to meta?? Like what?
Because they're dumb lol
1 month break and they came back with easily the worst episode of this show
I love how Rick said the butter morty was the best episode. It’s my favorite flash in the credits and hoped to see it but likely never will. At least it got a shout out
I just thought he was talking about this episode
@@alex_gaimar he could’ve been but I took it as a joke like you won’t even see the best episode
I thought the joke was the a morty butter episode seems so "lame" that seeing rick say its the best was hilarious
@@nobel5019 maybe. But his face and the way he waves his arms in agony cracks me up every time.
This episode was garage for me
I found the ghost cambell screaming at a man unable to hear him very funny
i love the 8 minute discussion of tag man
I guess the they proved that what they think and said is a bad premise for an episode is actually a bad premise and couldn't carry a full story.... Don't really think that was necessary, but I hope they've gotten it out of their system now.
The line about, It is now and always has been, with Rhett Con was my fav joke of the episode
Tag man was 4 layers - 1st - each character had a tag (name) - 2- wrestling has tags to switch wrestlers 3- Tag man said "i don't need a tag, i am the tag" meaning you don't need to switch i am the tag - the only fighter you need. 4- in a game of tag you are the hitter or tagger to strike the next opponent
Tagman is literally beating up everyone that goes to him. E.g everyone going to the tag of an episode or movie. You guys, without knowing it, were part of the joke like everyone else
He’s like one punch man it was badass I don’t get why they’re complaining about the tag
16:25 Isn't the "TAGMAN YEAA" scream the weird sound that comes right after it and is used after every episode? I mean it literally says "this is it right here" at the top lol
That was a spicy, in-depth analysis of the Tag Man. Fucking love it😭😂
The Simpsons dog's name is Santa's Little Helper
Yeah the Cats are named: Snowball, Snowball2, Snowball3, Snowball4, and Finally Snowball2(previous 5 renamed 2 "to save money on a new dish.")
"Isn't that a cheat?" Principal Skinner
"I guess it is, Principal Tamzarian" Lisa
You can say they didn’t really sell the doll because they hate that kind of shit, but you know there’s going to be a Funko Pop for every character in this episode, including Tagman and Marvin The Cowardly Security Guard.
The Url takes you to a fun page though.
Or Pocket Morty
Now I want them to react to The Simpsons. It doesn't have to be the entire series, just have the viewers vote on the Top 25 episodes that they want Blind Wave to react to.
Honestly, I don't think I've laughed so hard with "Rick & Morty" as I did with this episode. From the opening titles gag to the whole Jesus montage, I had tears in my eyes. It was so well done and absolutely batshit crazy!
easily a top 5 episode for me
Bruh... I don't even hate this episode as much as everyone else but top 5? Really?
@@LORDdrPepper no I randomly decided to lie about my opinion in the comment section of a reaction
*Sarcasm heavily implied*
@@LORDdrPepper for him
The whole point ia tagman is tagged on at the end
What a way to come back. I loooooved the title in, too good
Tagman wasn't fighting people, he was tagging them. His tags are so powerful they basically exploded everyone's heads 😂
Campbell is not a creator of Hero's Journey, he's a popularizator, it was proposed long before him
yea but he did study it to write a book that was referenced in the episode
@@o0OMaku Yes. It's just that he's not a creator, his book made Hero's Journey popular
The formula was accidentally created long time ago, but it was Campbell who actually created the concept.
For example: Newton obviously didn't invent gravity, and many people have exploited it way before he was born, but he was the one that made it a concept of study and designed a formula to understand it.
Yeah, I kinda wish we would get over it too. Having everything be based around the heroes journey is just creating a media culture of repetition.
The monomyth is based on chery picking which stories he looked at and being super reductive to other people's cultures to make them fit his own conservative point of view. It's also wildly sexist, even for it's time.
@@yiledute Read Jung's text on self actualization, Rank's "Mythic Hero", Raglan's "The Hero, a Study in Tradition, Myth and Drama", Propp's "Morphology of the tale", "Historical Roots of the wonder tale", then look up their publication dates, then look up when "The Hero with a Thousand Faces" was published, then look up research on the topic - there are lots of professional articles and pieces that talk about actual history of research of folklore, instead of hit piece3s by journalists who don't know much but heard that Lucas used Campbell's work for Star Wars.
I know that it's common human trait to believe the first thing they are told, and even even more so if they hear that thing repeatedly. Then if contradicting information comes, it has to have much more proof then original one so that the person might have had a chance to change their point of view.
Love this episode and the way they're mocking Hollywood writers for running out of ideas to make a quick buck. Lol!!
But that's exactly what Dan and Justin are doing! Taking advertising to make a quick Buch and not caring about the show, which is terrible now.
It's as much of a criticism of Hollywood writers as themselves, and a criticism of the audience who wants these things.
@@itsurokawasaki4394 not caring? Eh nah
@@itsurokawasaki4394:
At least they're turning it up to eleven and being open about it.
@@itsurokawasaki4394There’s nothing wrong with the show nor is there anything wrong with advertising/making money. Y’all trying so hard to find a reason to hate this show
I thought this was the best episode of the show in years lmao
They really spent 8 minutes on Tag Man 😂😂😂
I don’t get why he’s complaining so much about tag man he like another version of one punch man in a way it looked cool
We are getting very passionate about the end credit scene 😅
I loved this episode. I've watched it 4x now and I still catch something new!
Lol Aaron almost scienced Calvin but Calvin recovered! Are you saying you like it because I don't? That almost divided by zero
The tag man is also under a tag (attack).
@26:30 he says it would be stupid if flashback was there, and didn't do a flash back. I agree. If tag man wasn't in the tag it'd have been stupid. But he was in the tag, he fulfilled his purpose. Flashback didn't really *do* anything, he just gave them a flashback.
What a great way to return!!! Awesome episode! Really crazy in overall and confusing at the beginning.
This is like The Disaster episode of gumball where rob goes past the opening titles with his universal remote.
I actually wanted Storylord to live, he is one of the few people that beats the crap out of Rick and I think Rick needed that.
How could you forget Santa's Little Helper??? 😭😭
I like how he was like "Who cares" in response to the whole "why should I think Tag man is funny" schtick
You could react to just the first few seasons of The Simpsons. Only the first, like, 7 or 8 were any good. Maybe less than that. The really classic episodes everyone always references were mostly in the first 5 seasons or something like that.
That was a great episode and I loved the conversation you guys had about it, but the only thing I ended up thinking about after watching this is that you never watched The Simpsons. Do yourself a favor and watch at least up until season 9 even if it's not streamed. those early seasons were pure gold when they had some great writers back then. I've stopped watching it for a while now because it's not what it used to be but those early seasons are what I still grade all cartoon series on and most don't hit that benchmark for me.
Calvin's backwards ass logic: "He didn't find the joke funny so he doesn't get it."
I mean....he truly didn't seem to get it 😅
A lot of people don’t like meta humor. If you do that’s great. But the criticisms are equally valid
Tag man was great & hilarious
Brett Caan going off on the 4th wall illuminati reminded me of dr strange 2 and Wanda killing everyone
His name is Rhett Caan, and it always has been
@@sparpie Now.
Not the biggest fan of this episode. When the show goes meta as part of the story I tend to enjoy it, but when "being meta" is the story, not so much (the Story Train episode was one of my least favorites of that season for that reason).
I understand it's more that I'm not the public for these types of episodes and not that the episode itself is trash, but I wouldn't mind if we had less of this in the future.
I feel like the tagman was a shit idea, but I also feel like it was intended to be bad. They could've gone with a more creative idea or become even more lazier and have it just be a white screen, make something so bad to the point it's funny how bad it is. Nope they went in the middle and made smth so....something, I'm with Calvin I love it more when others complain about it. Either way It felt like a silly episode and got a few laughs out of my grumpy face so can't complain.
Tag man was more creative then you and Aaron realize he was literally raging people he is like a one punch man character I saw him as a badass you are missing the point of tag man
I don't know what it is with Aaron in these rick and morty reactions but it's so embarrassing everytime.
There is a creator tag on the vanity plate at the end of every episode (fremulon). The tag man is the voice that screams when justin roilands vanity plate shows up. You can see tag man increasing his destructiveness, and by the time the vanity plate goes up, the voice becomes distorted. Tag man is in within the same voice range as MR meeseeks or Mr Poopy ButtHole, Aaron get over it!
so many jokes that I just get it watching for the second time... now that I'm realizing
ugh, a reaction to seasons 2-8 (golden age) of the Simpsons would honestly be incredible
Watching you guys argue about it made me realize how good tagman is
"What's all this green stuff coming out of us?"
"Who fucking cares."
When you realize that in another universe, Adult Swim made it so those plushies are actually for sale.
Overthinking everything. This show wasn't made to take notes and analyze it.
This is officially the episode where Harmon jumps the shark on the Meta stuff with me… his peak was with Abed being meta on community and earlier Rick and Morty meta, but at this point he’s not being meta to service the story, he’s using meta to be the basis of the story which is just lazy. That being said, all the pun names were funny and every second Rhett Con was on scene was pure fucking gold and a glimpse of what peak meta Harmon was, super clever.
I loved this episode
I don’t agree with Aaron at all I thought what tag man was pretty creative and different and cool 😎
0:22 aaron hums at same frequency as my phone vibrates
lol what
@@aurorapaisley7453 AARON HUMS AT SAME FREQUENCY AS MY PHONE VIBRATES
I just listened to like eight minutes about "Tag-Man". What am I doing with my life, I feel so stupid.
Now I can't wait till Blind Wave watches the Batman TAS episode "Almost Got 'Im"
The portal pistol the Dinosaurs give Rick is supposed to be superior to Rick’s version but all it can do that Rick’s portal gun can’t is just show the user where the portal goes. The only times Rick didn’t know where the portal went was only when something was wrong with his portal gun or somebody else used the portal gun. Having the ability to see where the portal goes is thus a useless feature to him.
Dan Harmon's story circle shows up again on a chalkboard/whiteboard.
Thinking "Ret Connie" who retcons stuff and "Previous Leon" who makes flash backs is creative when they have one gimmick while hating "Tag Man" who's in the tag because he's got one gimmick is wild. Why is naming the characters exactly what they are creative!!
There was no Ret Connie. There was Connie TinuityError and Rhett Con. Also, Previous Leon didn't make flashbacks, he trapped people in fake "previously on" segments, Flash Back was the one that made flashbacks.
I honestly loved this episode
Filler doesn't mean stuff that wasn't in the original manga (or anything else), it is just how most people describe it. But actually filler means something to prolong time between main plot (if there is main plot). Filler can easily be canon to manga or non canon. Any episodes not related to main plot or current arc plot - fillers. Which brings us to the point that Naruto has many episodes that are non canon to the manga, but not fillers to the main plot, cuz they explain so many important stuff that they could be easily considered more plot related than original canon episodes...
If you complain about them not focusing on evil morty and stuff like that, you are the one that hasn’t been focusing. Episodes like this are the writers saying “shut up and deal with it. We don’t care.” So the more you complain, the more they do this and the more they will tell you to screw off.
If you ever get around to it, you should at least watch the first 8 - 10 seasons of the Simpsons. It starts dipping after S8, but I enjoyed it up til 10. I’d absolutely be checking out every reaction.
This Tagman bit was hilarious
I’m so glad Aaron finally called out Calvins immediate and unjustifiable opposition to his opinions. I feel calvins been doing this a lot recently. Aaron says something and Calvin just try’s to get Eric onside with opposing him but Calvin never really has a point. And then he waits for Eric to say something smart and jumps on that point and pretends it’s his. Aaron asking him to explain himself before Eric had said anything showed that Calvin didn’t really have a point and was just being pedantic. It’s soured a lot of the BTAS reactions where Calvin is being extremely nit picky and it’s a shame because Calvin has a unique voice and he’s just been agreeing with Eric rather than expressing his thoughts recently. Especially in Star Wars. Whereas Eric and Aaron disagree and discuss healthily.
But look at it from the other perspective. Aaron can get extremely frustrating a **lot** of the time when he's constantly asking for explanations to things where the whole point is it doesn't need to be explained. TBF it's a wonder Calvin didn't just turn over and smack him for constantly asking about "Tagman". Have you watched them watch any anime?
"Why do they look like that?"
"It's just the animation style."
"Yeah but why do they look like that? Why are they making those faces? Why is his forehead blue?"
"Because it's the animation style."
"But why? Is it really happening? Why does no one else see it"
"Because its the animation style".
Aaron needs his explanations of things to fit in a certain box and if it doesn't, he says it's bad. Half the things they watch don't fit into that box. And answering the same questions over and over again can get super frustrating. If your opinions are formed from a flawed basis, your opinions are bad and **should** be shot down off-hand.
@@smashbrandiscootch719 Yeah, I'm with Calvin here as well. Aaron can be my favourite when it comes to other stuff, but when he doesn't listen to reason he's unbearable.
Glad I'm not the only one that's noticed it. He also seem bored while watching the shows and movies more often than before.
It's like Calvin can't enjoy anything they watch anymore and has to nitpick to death. Has become very annoying to watch
@@brucesimmons5517 Absolutely, I know I was super harsh on Aaron there. I should state for the record that I don't dislike Aaron at all. And honestly, there are a lot of times when he catches onto things or predicts things way before anyone else and some of his breakdowns or theories are so dang on the money it's crazy.
Just in this particular situation and in situations like the hypothetical i mentioned above...I absolutely get Calvin.
Oh really this was thing? I thought Calvin was just trying to be funny by disagreeing with Aaron point about tag man.
For this show, that was a tiny break
tag man is a fourth wall breaker, like how everyone expects a tag scene in every marvel movie or star wars show. its also meta as a fu to reactors reviewing the show trying to get more out of a perfect show
Its even weirder to remember that Rick is aware hes on a tv show cause in the Rick and morty multiverse there are universes that treat their adventures like a show
I might be in the minority but I agree with Aaron. I got the joke about Tagman, but I didn't find it very funny or interesting.
I mean, if he had been running through a field playing tag with Mr Poopy Butthole or something that would've probably made more sense or been better
Dude your missing the point tag man is more creative then the whole episode you and Aaron are missing the point he was literally raging people with one punch he is like another variation of one punch man that’s how most people see it y’all are missing the understanding of it man
The Tagman doing nothing but tagging people and having fun is like a metaphor for the whole show. It's meaningless. Just enjoy the ride 🤣
Hilarious
I'm with Aaron regarding the Tag Man
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I agree with *Aaron.* The tag was clearly one of those *Justin Roiland* ad lib riffs. It was just not clever, nor funny. The concept, _maayyybe._ But beyond that, I found it annoying.
@@dumbprimeministers1763 What's there to overthink? It's absolutely what it says it is.
@@dumbprimeministers1763 Ultimately, there is nothing more to say here beyond sharing your own opinion of whether or not you found it funny. Humor being subjective, that's all there is to the subject of the tag. I found it annoying and unfunny. With 8 billion people on the planet, I absolutely accept that there will be a great many that did find it funny. There's nothing to overthink. There's literally no argument here.
@@dumbprimeministers1763 Dude your missing the point tag man is more creative then the whole episode you and Aaron are missing the point he was literally raging people with one punch he is like another variation of one punch man that’s how most people see it y’all are missing the understanding of it man
@@CaesiusX Dude your missing the point tag man is more creative then the whole episode you and Aaron are missing the point he was literally raging people with one punch he is like another variation of one punch man that’s how most people see it y’all are missing the understanding of it man
can someone PLEASE tell me if there is full length Game of Thrones reactions anywhere from these guys?
I reckon this would be a top 5 episode for me. Just incredible!