I LOVE my 2018 G310R! I have had it for 14 months. This review is SPOT on with my experience. I commute 44 miles round trip 5 days a week, mainly back roads. For that it is perfect. His evaluation at the end is true in my case as well. City riding=GREAT, long highway travel=not enough power band. Keep in mind, it IS a 313cc single engine bike. After riding others in that class, it is the best for me.
All of the cons are fixed as of the facelift - very less vibrations now - all Led lights - ride by wire allows for a very short throttle pull so at 7k rpm it doesn't feel like its on full revs now - with glide thru technology (gtt) u cannot physically stall the bike it automatically increases its revs and acts like a crawl mode in first 3 gears - the gearing is also engineered better this time
Thank you sir, for this well put review. Obviously you have tons of experience under your belt, so every thought that you've shared with this community is much appreciated.
Great review. I have a G310R 2022 and most of the things mentioned in the review is still valid for the current model. In Japan where speed limit on the highway is mostly 80-100km/h, this bike is not only a great commuter but also quite enough for the highway too, especially in big metropolis like Tokyo or Osaka.
Great presentation. I truly appreciate your honesty. As a long-time BMW owner (1970 R75/5 for 30 years) I wondered about this bike. I will pass. Thanks again! You have earned a new subscriber.
@@britishlifestyle3432 yes, stalling you overcome by being aware you might do it, vibration you might like it or not. I've checked the Duke that everyone was praising, I wanted to check Honda, but it was unavailable at local dealership and I've checked BMW only because I've just got my license and wanted to have a ride while knowing it has less power than KTM and Honda. And I've sat on it and it felt super comfy, I've driven it and it felt slower than the Duke, but again more comfy. And BMW had all paperwork done quickly, best price, voucher, financing (leasing + insurance). I'm happy I've got it
Thank you for the review, I was thinking about buying it but I plan to do long trips on the weekends (300-400 km). So its time to check the KTM 390 adventure
Spot on comments. I have ridden both the R and the GS. Great quality, ride, comfort, economy. But this is a town and country lane machine at which it a pleasure to ride. It takes me and the wife with no effort but this is only a 310cc machine and you have to repspect that. D3S's reports on this bike really sum it up. Great site. Bob.
D3Sshooter no had a BMW k100rs, but not ridden bikes in a long time, busted knees, no right wrist all wrist bones removed, and have a lot of damage to my spine too.🏴
@@alasdairhamilton1574 , oops that does not sound to well, I had 257 stitches in my face when I went through a fence and seven broken bones many moons ago...
I also have this bike. I LOVE it for the city...not so much for speeds over 100kph. Yes, agree on the vibrations and lack of power on highways. Not enough power for passing when necessary. Yes, agree on the stalling...BUT after a couple of years and servicing...doesn't happen anymore. It used to drop into N out of the blue. That was frustrating. Yes, I'm always double checking before stopping to make sure it is actually in 1st gear. But again, I LOVE it for the city! Great review. Bang on.
Excellent review ! I agree with everything...I bought it recently after a few years not having a bike and stalled a couple of times....I just blame myself for the time I was without riding..now I feel better..same with vibrations...very nice bike for around city...cheers mate
I've had this bike for a little over a year and I have experienced exactly the same as you described in your video. I don't have the need to take mine on the highway and that's important because at an average speed of 75mph around here, it wouldn't be what I'd consider to be safe. That said, if I lived in LA where there's always traffic, it would be a fantastic commuter bike because of how light and nimble it is (perfect for lane splitting below 65mph). Thanks for this video!
Have a 2019 G310R and his review is pretty accurate. The bike is awesome for which it was designed. I mostly zip around short country roads so I don't notice the vibrations really. I can say that once the bike is broken in over 1,000 miles it really, really starts to shine.
Absolutely spot on. I had the G310GS and the vibrations through the hands caused me to sell it after 6 months . That and the fact that gear change in town riding from second down to first was v poor. Positives were that the bike handled extremely welll on twisties and suspension was great too.
I have had two and the newer version didn’t have any issues with the gears as it had a slipper clutch the lights were all better and I had a small screen put on, I also didn’t have any problems with stalling after the run in period.
Just bought my 2018 G310r a few days ago and I had the exact same complaints after riding for less than an hour. I think I will start to get used to them like you said. Regardless, I think its a great bike and am very happy with my purchase.
17T front sprocket transforms the bike into a long range tourer. lowers the revs by about 500-1000 depending on gear/speed and makes the gearing much more forgiving.
A true review ! Thanks for this one... I am planning to get myself a g310r , the updated 2021 version ... heard many issues are resolved from the previous versions ... if possible could u do a review of the newer version ?
almost 2024... and the pretty imminent introduction of lowering speed limits here in UK.... these smaller bikes will become a LOT more popular.. the game has changed.. NOBODY needs 200bhp superbike anymore..too many camera's.. too much traffic.. time to enjoy the ride like it used to be.. before the obsession with Speed .. the small bike is the new BIG bike perhaps..?
I have a 2020 BMW G310 R and I too find the vibrations annoying and you're dead right about the downshifting from second to first that's happened to me too.The build quality the BM you can't fault it's great.😁🇬🇧
I had the stalling also and once even dropped the bike due to stalling on a turn, low speed. But it is not something unpredictable, so you learn to not stall. Never a problem for me now. I also never had that "ghost shifting" thing between 2 and 1. All other points I agree.
When it comes to long commutes, I drive my modified cb 125twin, which can cruise 125km/h at 12.000 rpm all the time. In the beginning, it doesn't feel right. But I've done thousands of miles pinning at the beginning of the red zone and it's always been fine. So now, depending on the engine architecture and what I know of the engine, I let myself use them a bit more...
Thanks for the comments, yes you can... however try a heavier bike and you will see the difference for that kind of rides. I have moved to the R-1200-T
Just took a riding course today and used this bike because I’ve seen it and thought it looked cool but the clutch and shifting issues were apparent the whole time. I would baby the clutch foreword to keep it from stalling and it would still just stall.
your riding exceperience and video review is honest.....even i faced the same...bmw shld concetrate little more on bikes also not only cars....after riding the bike got one point on mind bmw clearly is famous for its cars
Thanks for that video im also using 310 but the gs one it is almost the same i can say above 7000 rpm i cant see something at the mirrors that is also bad i think but its a great bike for city
I own the GS Model. Point 1: no vibration, I even removed de rubber peg. Point 2: agree. Point 3: same embarrassement twice until I learned how to avoid that. ExtraPoint 4: rear brake pedal is too low. I fixed adding an extra piece of rubber. Thanks for the video, now I have some info for comparison.
I've bought it quite recently and I don't plan to use it for long trips, mostly city and around villages for fun. Maybe because I don't sit on 6k RPM constantly for too long, I love the sound and vibrations between 5-7k RPM. I've test ridden Vitpilen 701 1 cylinder and wow this thing was vibrating, but for short ride it was super cool. I have some troubles sometimes to shift from 1st to 2nd, but maybe it needs some breaking in. 320km so far.
@@D3Sshooter OK I'm back after 3k km, maybe bit more (thanks youtube for recommedng it once again). Yes, I can't imagine driving it for like an hour doing 120 km/h. That must not feel right on a highway. It is great in the city. I don't have any issues anymore going from 1st to 2nd, and I don't have it also while downshifting from 2nd to 1st. I do need to keep in mind the staling and it's great that you mentioned that as I thought it's just me, a beginner, not knowing how to drive. You may not have milions of view on the video but I find it very informative and very honest. Cheers
Thank you for this honest review, here in India the G310R has gone through a recent big change due to the BS6 emission norms. that have been implied. the BS6 version has got some much better updates and in more promising as they have now had a slipper clutch and ride by wire introduced to it along with all LED headlamps, the vibrations as mentioned by BMW are now reduced but not sure how much in comparison, but the biggest leap taken is dropping its price here in India from a 2.99Lac to a 2.5Lac which is about a 50k cheaper and brings it to a similar pricing to a Duke 390 in India, an aggressive change lets see how this goes!
I bought one and love it to bits and use it for pleasure and the odd 100mile plus journeys but then I do very little motorway travel mainly 'A' and 'B' class roads using anything up to 7000rpm with occasional 'squirts' for overtaking but he's quite right after that rev. position the motor feels harsh. 7000rpm equates to roughly 70mph which presents me with no problems as it's the legal limit in the UK. Were I contemplating regular Motorway cruising at the limit or 'slightly' more I would not have bought one in the first place, the engine capacity is really too little after all it's pretty much an 'overblown' 250 four-stroke single, a 500/650 would be far more appropriate. I much appreciate a reasoned, unbiased, 'bum on the seat' evaluation. Thank you sir you've done a fine job.
Totally true review, I have a G310gs it has exactly the same issues. - Vibration over 5k rpm - False neutrals when shifting down to a stop - Low quality chain, rusts easily Topspeed is not much of issue for me since most highways here have a maximum speed limit of 90km/hr which can be done below 5k rpm.
in India i dont think we can cruise at 120 kmph for more than 10-15 mins anyways ... except for few big highways ... so i guess this bike is more suited fr such condition.....btw vry genuine review so far i got on this bike
I've just ordered a G310R and it's arriving next week. I'll look out for the issues you described. Also, my circumstances are the same as what you've described for you - when my office opens up I'll have to commute on the motorway for about 40 minutes each journey at approx 70mph, so I'd probably want a bigger bike. Just out of interest, what bike did you switch to when you got a bigger bike and what were your thoughts on it?
if I would ride 100km each day I would definately take 1200GS, because the relaxed engine and good weather cover from the fairing. only problem it's very tall bike. so R1200RS would be even better. And those new ones have also cruise control.
What did you upgrade to? This bike would be perfect if it was 400cc and they managed the vibrations a bit more.. everyone I watch speaks about the vibrations Nonetheless I'm going for it as soon as I can. Got my eyes on a 2019 model with 3500km on the clock
Danke für das informative Video . Wurde das Problem mit der falschen Gang-anzeige gelöst? Bei mir zeigt das Display "N", es ist aber ein Gang drin. Dies führt zu gefährlichen Situationrn!
Thank you for a great review, and in general for very, very good and inspirering videos. I had the g310gs. In general I think you get what you pay for +a bit more compared to direct competition. However I sold my bike after just one year and 3500km. The reasons: - the bike is vibrating a lot in a numbing way. 20 mins of driving and my feet would be asleep. My bum sould be halfway asleep, as well. This already at 80 kmph. I would never consider taking it on longer trips than 100km and not on motorways, as it would be very tolling. - Stalling. I have driven many bikes, easy and difficult ones. Including a lot on bikes more than 70 years old, some even with foot clutches. Hardly ever have I stalled. On the BMW I stalled constantly. Very frustrating in city driving. And it stalls without " warning", e. g. You have a difficult time feeling the engine. - Difficult cold start under 10 degrees celcius. I mean, very difficult when around 0 as to the point that you should plan ahead for starting it. - Uneasyness above 100 kmph. It just doesn't like higher speeds. - Very short fist gear to the point where City stop-start gets annoing as you will have to rev it like a loonatic. - Heavy diving when breaking, to the point where an unexperienced driver would get insecure. - 2 recalls within 1 year (sidestand and brakes) And then a strange goofy thing, not really a disqualifying one, but the clock was completely useless at holding time. Loosing up to 5 mins a week. I mean how is it possible to make a digital clock in 2018/19 that cannot hold time? My old manual omega from 1968 hold better time 😂 Would I recommend the bike? No, not at all. For the money of a new one, buy a used bigger bike instead.
issues mentioned are spot on. i still have my 310gs. by now, i have gotten used to stalling and found a way to not stall anymore. Rest of the issues still exist and additionally, the headlight wobble when going through speed breakers or undulations.
Honest review!!! This bike is not for touring. It's a commuter, especially on surface streets. Not for the superslab. Neither is the Ninja 300 or the Honda CB300R, which compete with the BMW 301R.
hello. Great review. What do you think of the changes made to the 2021 model? Do you think it will help the issues you addressed in your review? There is a review of the changes on the AFT Channel. Do you think it would be a good bike for Switzerland? And trips around Europe? I don't want a heavy bike or bulky one. Can you recommend comparable bikes? appreciate your depth detailed knowledge. Thank you
Yes, absolutely thise bikes have improved a lot on those points. I do believe that if you do not push it to hard so not avove 120Kmhr it will take you anywhere.. They also have a GS type.. That would be the better model for the 310 GS
7k rpm, not a problem, when you ride at lower rpm. Swap sprockets. You should be able to get 30% lower rpm with sprockets for 20mph lower top speed. Passenger pegs, I don't have a passenger. Many motorcycles have this 1st gear quirk. Just keep your foot on 1st gear downshift, while you release the throttle.
Hey! Nice Video, very informative. I want to get BMW G310R as my first starter bike and use it for everyday driving to university and in the city. I live in Germany and I think the bike is very cool looking and economical. But heres my question now: My hometown is 350km away from where I live now and I want to visit my family once a month or once every two months and I want to know if this is possible with this bike or if I should take the train? (of course I would do 1 or 2 stops on my way) I would prefer to drive on the German Highway (Autobahn) at speeds between 110 and 130km/h
Hi mate, yeah as a 310R owner I can't speak highly enough of this bike (including on racetracks, she is very smooth and responsive!) especially being on the shorter side it fits really well ergonomically and is super comfortable. I also commute around and do long trips throughout the year (300 km usually in a day), so I got a windscreen and hand guards as well, which work great! But yes there are some slight vibrations at higher speed including buzzyness from the engine (you could sacrifice a bit of low end responsiveness for a smoother top end (I am about to change the rear sproket size by a tooth to reduce engine rpm at higher speeds and reduce the serverity of the single cylinder engine braking in the lower gears). Having said that tho, a bike that handles this smooth and is very forgiving, it is perfect to learn on to easily build confidence. Nothing really competes with it at this side of 500cc. If you are able to go straight to a larger bike, go for it if you are allowed to. Hope this helps and that you find a bike that suits. All the best with it :)
@@frankhehler6938 no worries man, the more I ride the 310 the more it's going to become my forever bike until a trimuph tiger 900! Anyways hope the search goes well and the main thing is sit on the bikes, compare and go from there!
I for sure will, the first thing I noticed is the clunky gearbox in first , second and third gear when shifting. But then again its a wet plate clutch... so normal... for the rest it feels like the right bike.... but to early to make an honest assessment.
Hi, I want to replace the headlamp of my 310r with a round one.. Was thinking with the new Honda 150ss. I saw in ur last video that you have a garage of your own. Will you be able to suggest if that's possible?
Hey D3s, I saw your review before buying this bike, now it`s 7k km ruined, and the least long drive is 1500km so far. and not found any issues for me, and soon I am planning for a 6000km long ride I would like to get some suggestions from you. thx.
Those issues with the shifting is enough to steer me away for my first bike. That’s too bad. How do you overcome this? Everything else is fantastic. But not safe. Looking now at MT03 or CB300 variants
D3Sshooter you are awesome for responding to fan posts. Unfortunately possibility of death on a false neutral situation is no small issue for me. Unless there has been a proven mechanical solution.
Very nice Review. However, I like to point out not every country has a Speed limit of 120kph. Here in Australia, it is 100kph with some 110kph freeways. Having said that in a 100kph zone you could sit at 95kkph well within the bikes capabilities. For me the bike would be a great bike in City traffic and would be more than capable on longer rides every so often. In your case if you travel 100kms one way everyday then a bigger bike would be a good idea. Thanks for the review :)
Done trips in highway for several hours at 120 / 130kms hour and zero problems! 12000kms until now with a smile on my face!
The most useful review of the 310r I have ever seen. Congrats @D3Sshooter, you got my heart and my subscription..
I appreciate it
Agree, great review indeed.
he is 100 true honest review and I own a bmw 310R, my review would be the same as him.
I LOVE my 2018 G310R! I have had it for 14 months. This review is SPOT on with my experience. I commute 44 miles round trip 5 days a week, mainly back roads. For that it is perfect. His evaluation at the end is true in my case as well. City riding=GREAT, long highway travel=not enough power band. Keep in mind, it IS a 313cc single engine bike. After riding others in that class, it is the best for me.
Thanks for the comments, indeed a great bike, good luck with yours and enjoy
The most genuine review of the 310 ever.
Thanks for the comments
Most honest review by an American
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You sir are one honest beast 🙏
Thank you
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All of the cons are fixed as of the facelift - very less vibrations now - all Led lights - ride by wire allows for a very short throttle pull so at 7k rpm it doesn't feel like its on full revs now - with glide thru technology (gtt) u cannot physically stall the bike it automatically increases its revs and acts like a crawl mode in first 3 gears - the gearing is also engineered better this time
The best review of this bike I've found - thorough but to the point and from an experienced owner. Many thanks
Thank you sir, for this well put review. Obviously you have tons of experience under your belt, so every thought that you've shared with this community is much appreciated.
Glad it was helpful!
Great review. I have a G310R 2022 and most of the things mentioned in the review is still valid for the current model. In Japan where speed limit on the highway is mostly 80-100km/h, this bike is not only a great commuter but also quite enough for the highway too, especially in big metropolis like Tokyo or Osaka.
Great presentation. I truly appreciate your honesty. As a long-time BMW owner (1970 R75/5 for 30 years) I wondered about this bike. I will pass. Thanks again! You have earned a new subscriber.
planning to get a 310r, this is a solid review, thank you!
Glad I could help!
Thank you sir from South Africa, after watching this I’m getting me one
Thanks for the comments
Excellent, honest review. Thanks!
Glad it was helpful!
This video should be mandatory watching for every MC reviewer out there. It is honest and to the point. And very useful too.
Sorry for the late reply , as i was away for work. But thanks for the comments.
Very indepth video on g310r thanks mate
Thanks for the info! Changing plans for a bigger bike!
Excellent review. Exactly what I was looking for.
Thanks for the comments
Thank you for the honest review. G310R is now off my list. You are not the only one who gave a review on the vibration and stalling.
Glad I could help
U are wrong , it's the best in its class.... 300 cc bike u get maximum as bmw 310 offer.. his review is person compare 600 cc with 300 cc ..
@@britishlifestyle3432 yes, stalling you overcome by being aware you might do it, vibration you might like it or not. I've checked the Duke that everyone was praising, I wanted to check Honda, but it was unavailable at local dealership and I've checked BMW only because I've just got my license and wanted to have a ride while knowing it has less power than KTM and Honda. And I've sat on it and it felt super comfy, I've driven it and it felt slower than the Duke, but again more comfy. And BMW had all paperwork done quickly, best price, voucher, financing (leasing + insurance). I'm happy I've got it
It’s off my list also
Thank you for the review, I was thinking about buying it but I plan to do long trips on the weekends (300-400 km). So its time to check the KTM 390 adventure
Spot on comments.
I have ridden both the R and the GS. Great quality, ride, comfort, economy. But this is a town and country lane machine at which it a pleasure to ride. It takes me and the wife with no effort but this is only a 310cc machine and you have to repspect that.
D3S's reports on this bike really sum it up. Great site.
Bob.
Thanks for the comments, indeed its a city bike
enjoy yours
thanks, excellent points!
My pleasure!
Thank you. Really balanced and informative.
You're very welcome!
This is the best review of this bike I’ve seen. I’ve had one for a year and all points are spot on.
Great to hear!
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i really appreciate your review
Glad it was helpful!
Glad that you are honest about the bike, and not a sales rep.👍🏴
Thanks for the comments, do you have one ?
D3Sshooter no had a BMW k100rs, but not ridden bikes in a long time, busted knees, no right wrist all wrist bones removed, and have a lot of damage to my spine too.🏴
@@alasdairhamilton1574 , oops that does not sound to well, I had 257 stitches in my face when I went through a fence and seven broken bones many moons ago...
@@D3Sshooter 🤯 were you not wearing helmet
I appreciate the update. I better understand the uses of this bike.
Thanks for the comments
I love mine and your review is exactly on point. Great for zipping around town though.
Thanks for the comments
I also have this bike. I LOVE it for the city...not so much for speeds over 100kph. Yes, agree on the vibrations and lack of power on highways. Not enough power for passing when necessary. Yes, agree on the stalling...BUT after a couple of years and servicing...doesn't happen anymore. It used to drop into N out of the blue. That was frustrating. Yes, I'm always double checking before stopping to make sure it is actually in 1st gear. But again, I LOVE it for the city! Great review. Bang on.
Thanks for the comments. Indeed a great bike... and enjoy yours
Excellent review well balanced
Excellent review ! I agree with everything...I bought it recently after a few years not having a bike and stalled a couple of times....I just blame myself for the time I was without riding..now I feel better..same with vibrations...very nice bike for around city...cheers mate
Thanks for the comments
Fabulous review. Thanks
Thanks for watching!
I've had this bike for a little over a year and I have experienced exactly the same as you described in your video. I don't have the need to take mine on the highway and that's important because at an average speed of 75mph around here, it wouldn't be what I'd consider to be safe. That said, if I lived in LA where there's always traffic, it would be a fantastic commuter bike because of how light and nimble it is (perfect for lane splitting below 65mph). Thanks for this video!
Thanks for the comments Nickie, indeed its a perfect city bike... good luck with it
Impressive review ever for G 310 r, i planned to buy one, just unable to make up my mind, yet ur review help me
Thanks for the comments
Have a 2019 G310R and his review is pretty accurate. The bike is awesome for which it was designed. I mostly zip around short country roads so I don't notice the vibrations really. I can say that once the bike is broken in over 1,000 miles it really, really starts to shine.
Thanks for the comments
Spot on mate! Thanks from down under 😁
Any time!
Appreciate the honesty
Thank you
Great review!
Glad you enjoyed it
Excellent review
Very honest review to me ,thank sr i was about to get one ..
Glad I could help
Thank you for good review, from 🇺🇸.
Thanks for watching!
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Finally someone accepting that vibrations are heavy.
Thanks for the comments
Absolutely spot on. I had the G310GS and the vibrations through the hands caused me to sell it after 6 months . That and the fact that gear change in town riding from second down to first was v poor. Positives were that the bike handled extremely welll on twisties and suspension was great too.
Hey which year model was your bike?
Thank you, bro
Thanks for the video.
You are welcome!
Very Good information
Thanks for the comments
Nice clear and good voice sir 👍
Thanks and welcome
Thank you for this vid sir.
Thanks for the comments
Love that jacket
I have had two and the newer version didn’t have any issues with the gears as it had a slipper clutch the lights were all better and I had a small screen put on, I also didn’t have any problems with stalling after the run in period.
Just bought my 2018 G310r a few days ago and I had the exact same complaints after riding for less than an hour. I think I will start to get used to them like you said. Regardless, I think its a great bike and am very happy with my purchase.
What did you pay for yours? Milage?
The Best ... I'm on my 2nd year on my 2019 model .
Thanks for the comments
thanks to share useful information
Thanks for the comments
17T front sprocket transforms the bike into a long range tourer. lowers the revs by about 500-1000 depending on gear/speed and makes the gearing much more forgiving.
A true review ! Thanks for this one... I am planning to get myself a g310r , the updated 2021 version ... heard many issues are resolved from the previous versions ... if possible could u do a review of the newer version ?
Glad I could help! indeed they have solved those issues. If I get to one, I will do so
almost 2024... and the pretty imminent introduction of lowering speed limits here in UK.... these smaller bikes will become a LOT more popular.. the game has changed.. NOBODY needs 200bhp superbike anymore..too many camera's.. too much traffic.. time to enjoy the ride like it used to be.. before the obsession with Speed .. the small bike is the new BIG bike perhaps..?
TXS for the comments
I’ve done 10000 honest American miles on my G310R, and have to say that this video completely nails it. Great city bike, not a freeway bike
Good to hear!
I have a 2020 BMW G310 R and I too find the vibrations annoying and you're dead right about the downshifting from second to first that's happened to me too.The build quality the BM you can't fault it's great.😁🇬🇧
Thanks for the comments
I had the stalling also and once even dropped the bike due to stalling on a turn, low speed. But it is not something unpredictable, so you learn to not stall. Never a problem for me now. I also never had that "ghost shifting" thing between 2 and 1. All other points I agree.
Thanks for the comments
When it comes to long commutes, I drive my modified cb 125twin, which can cruise 125km/h at 12.000 rpm all the time. In the beginning, it doesn't feel right. But I've done thousands of miles pinning at the beginning of the red zone and it's always been fine. So now, depending on the engine architecture and what I know of the engine, I let myself use them a bit more...
Thanks for the comments, yes you can... however try a heavier bike and you will see the difference for that kind of rides. I have moved to the R-1200-T
Finally someone who speaks the truth!
Just took a riding course today and used this bike because I’ve seen it and thought it looked cool but the clutch and shifting issues were apparent the whole time. I would baby the clutch foreword to keep it from stalling and it would still just stall.
You’re a braver man than. I’d never take a 300 cc class bike on the interstate. They simply do not have enough power and physical size to be safe.
Enjoyed your video 👍🏼 ....What bmw did you end up getting ?
Txs for the comments, a R1200R I like naked bikes
your riding exceperience and video review is honest.....even i faced the same...bmw shld concetrate little more on bikes also not only cars....after riding the bike got one point on mind bmw clearly is famous for its cars
Thank you
Thanks for that video im also using 310 but the gs one it is almost the same i can say above 7000 rpm i cant see something at the mirrors that is also bad i think but its a great bike for city
Thanks for sharing
I own the GS Model. Point 1: no vibration, I even removed de rubber peg. Point 2: agree. Point 3: same embarrassement twice until I learned how to avoid that. ExtraPoint 4: rear brake pedal is too low. I fixed adding an extra piece of rubber. Thanks for the video, now I have some info for comparison.
Thanks for sharing, I know that the have worked out the vibration on later models.
I've bought it quite recently and I don't plan to use it for long trips, mostly city and around villages for fun. Maybe because I don't sit on 6k RPM constantly for too long, I love the sound and vibrations between 5-7k RPM. I've test ridden Vitpilen 701 1 cylinder and wow this thing was vibrating, but for short ride it was super cool. I have some troubles sometimes to shift from 1st to 2nd, but maybe it needs some breaking in. 320km so far.
Thanks for the comments, good luck
@@D3Sshooter OK I'm back after 3k km, maybe bit more (thanks youtube for recommedng it once again). Yes, I can't imagine driving it for like an hour doing 120 km/h. That must not feel right on a highway. It is great in the city. I don't have any issues anymore going from 1st to 2nd, and I don't have it also while downshifting from 2nd to 1st. I do need to keep in mind the staling and it's great that you mentioned that as I thought it's just me, a beginner, not knowing how to drive. You may not have milions of view on the video but I find it very informative and very honest. Cheers
I thing this is the most direct and accurate opinion of my bike.
TXS for the comments
With a gentle gesture you ripped off the cons .
txs for the comments
Thank you for this honest review, here in India the G310R has gone through a recent big change due to the BS6 emission norms. that have been implied. the BS6 version has got some much better updates and in more promising as they have now had a slipper clutch and ride by wire introduced to it along with all LED headlamps, the vibrations as mentioned by BMW are now reduced but not sure how much in comparison, but the biggest leap taken is dropping its price here in India from a 2.99Lac to a 2.5Lac which is about a 50k cheaper and brings it to a similar pricing to a Duke 390 in India, an aggressive change lets see how this goes!
Thanks for the comments, and update
I bought one and love it to bits and use it for pleasure and the odd 100mile plus journeys but then I do very little motorway travel mainly 'A' and 'B' class roads using anything up to 7000rpm with occasional 'squirts' for overtaking but he's quite right after that rev. position the motor feels harsh. 7000rpm equates to roughly 70mph which presents me with no problems as it's the legal limit in the UK. Were I contemplating regular Motorway cruising at the limit or 'slightly' more I would not have bought one in the first place, the engine capacity is really too little after all it's pretty much an 'overblown' 250 four-stroke single, a 500/650 would be far more appropriate. I much appreciate a reasoned, unbiased, 'bum on the seat' evaluation. Thank you sir you've done a fine job.
rgadave txs for your comments and sharing your views.
Totally true review, I have a G310gs it has exactly the same issues.
- Vibration over 5k rpm
- False neutrals when shifting down to a stop
- Low quality chain, rusts easily
Topspeed is not much of issue for me since most highways here have a maximum speed limit of 90km/hr which can be done below 5k rpm.
Same her Atul ..I have g310r
TXS for the comments
Hello! What accesories would you recommend for this bike??? I just got one!
in India i dont think we can cruise at 120 kmph for more than 10-15 mins anyways ... except for few big highways ... so i guess this bike is more suited fr such condition.....btw vry genuine review so far i got on this bike
Indeed, a great city bike
I've just ordered a G310R and it's arriving next week. I'll look out for the issues you described.
Also, my circumstances are the same as what you've described for you - when my office opens up I'll have to commute on the motorway for about 40 minutes each journey at approx 70mph, so I'd probably want a bigger bike. Just out of interest, what bike did you switch to when you got a bigger bike and what were your thoughts on it?
I got the BMW R1200R, and now I changed that to a Nine T BMW
if I would ride 100km each day I would definately take 1200GS, because the relaxed engine and good weather cover from the fairing. only problem it's very tall bike. so R1200RS would be even better. And those new ones have also cruise control.
What did you upgrade to? This bike would be perfect if it was 400cc and they managed the vibrations a bit more.. everyone I watch speaks about the vibrations
Nonetheless I'm going for it as soon as I can.
Got my eyes on a 2019 model with 3500km on the clock
Danke für das informative Video . Wurde das Problem mit der falschen Gang-anzeige gelöst? Bei mir zeigt das Display "N", es ist aber ein Gang drin. Dies führt zu gefährlichen Situationrn!
Thanks for the comments
Thank you for a great review, and in general for very, very good and inspirering videos.
I had the g310gs. In general I think you get what you pay for +a bit more compared to direct competition.
However I sold my bike after just one year and 3500km.
The reasons:
- the bike is vibrating a lot in a numbing way. 20 mins of driving and my feet would be asleep. My bum sould be halfway asleep, as well. This already at 80 kmph. I would never consider taking it on longer trips than 100km and not on motorways, as it would be very tolling.
- Stalling. I have driven many bikes, easy and difficult ones. Including a lot on bikes more than 70 years old, some even with foot clutches. Hardly ever have I stalled. On the BMW I stalled constantly. Very frustrating in city driving. And it stalls without " warning", e. g. You have a difficult time feeling the engine.
- Difficult cold start under 10 degrees celcius. I mean, very difficult when around 0 as to the point that you should plan ahead for starting it.
- Uneasyness above 100 kmph. It just doesn't like higher speeds.
- Very short fist gear to the point where City stop-start gets annoing as you will have to rev it like a loonatic.
- Heavy diving when breaking, to the point where an unexperienced driver would get insecure.
- 2 recalls within 1 year (sidestand and brakes)
And then a strange goofy thing, not really a disqualifying one, but the clock was completely useless at holding time. Loosing up to 5 mins a week. I mean how is it possible to make a digital clock in 2018/19 that cannot hold time? My old manual omega from 1968 hold better time 😂
Would I recommend the bike? No, not at all. For the money of a new one, buy a used bigger bike instead.
Thanks for the comments, and indeed well know aspects. It is still a city bike and a good starter bike
issues mentioned are spot on. i still have my 310gs.
by now, i have gotten used to stalling and found a way to not stall anymore. Rest of the issues still exist and additionally, the headlight wobble when going through speed breakers or undulations.
Was actually thinking of this bike for next purchase, but after your excellent review decided not really the bike for me.
Thanks for the comments
Honest review!!! This bike is not for touring. It's a commuter, especially on surface streets. Not for the superslab. Neither is the Ninja 300 or the Honda CB300R, which compete with the BMW 301R.
Thanks for the comments
So how can you fix the vibration issue on the bike ? Is it a matter of changing the suspension?
Crisp
Интересно спасибо
hello. Great review. What do you think of the changes made to the 2021 model? Do you think it will help the issues you addressed in your review? There is a review of the changes on the
AFT Channel. Do you think it would be a good bike for Switzerland? And trips around Europe? I don't want a heavy bike or bulky one. Can you recommend comparable bikes? appreciate your depth detailed knowledge. Thank you
Yes, absolutely thise bikes have improved a lot on those points. I do believe that if you do not push it to hard so not avove 120Kmhr it will take you anywhere.. They also have a GS type.. That would be the better model for the 310 GS
@@D3Sshooter Thank you! I didn't know that about the GS model. I will be sure to look at both carefully. Great Reviews.
7k rpm, not a problem, when you ride at lower rpm. Swap sprockets.
You should be able to get 30% lower rpm with sprockets for 20mph lower top speed.
Passenger pegs, I don't have a passenger.
Many motorcycles have this 1st gear quirk. Just keep your foot on 1st gear downshift, while you release the throttle.
i own beverly 350 it have what this bmv 310 is mising , and vice versa
thenx for good reviev
Sorry for the late reply , as i was away for work. But thanks for the comments.
all right its a lovely motorcycle buts have some negatives poitns its an amazing bike for medium rides for moutains, like your videos!
Hey! Nice Video, very informative. I want to get BMW G310R as my first starter bike and use it for everyday driving to university and in the city. I live in Germany and I think the bike is very cool looking and economical. But heres my question now: My hometown is 350km away from where I live now and I want to visit my family once a month or once every two months and I want to know if this is possible with this bike or if I should take the train? (of course I would do 1 or 2 stops on my way) I would prefer to drive on the German Highway (Autobahn) at speeds between 110 and 130km/h
Hi mate, yeah as a 310R owner I can't speak highly enough of this bike (including on racetracks, she is very smooth and responsive!) especially being on the shorter side it fits really well ergonomically and is super comfortable. I also commute around and do long trips throughout the year (300 km usually in a day), so I got a windscreen and hand guards as well, which work great! But yes there are some slight vibrations at higher speed including buzzyness from the engine (you could sacrifice a bit of low end responsiveness for a smoother top end (I am about to change the rear sproket size by a tooth to reduce engine rpm at higher speeds and reduce the serverity of the single cylinder engine braking in the lower gears). Having said that tho, a bike that handles this smooth and is very forgiving, it is perfect to learn on to easily build confidence. Nothing really competes with it at this side of 500cc. If you are able to go straight to a larger bike, go for it if you are allowed to. Hope this helps and that you find a bike that suits. All the best with it :)
@@lawrencemonro2568 Thanks a lot!
@@frankhehler6938 no worries man, the more I ride the 310 the more it's going to become my forever bike until a trimuph tiger 900! Anyways hope the search goes well and the main thing is sit on the bikes, compare and go from there!
Thanks for the comments
Hi. Will you keep us up-to-date with your experience with the 1200R?
I for sure will, the first thing I noticed is the clunky gearbox in first , second and third gear when shifting. But then again its a wet plate clutch... so normal... for the rest it feels like the right bike.... but to early to make an honest assessment.
Hi, I want to replace the headlamp of my 310r with a round one.. Was thinking with the new Honda 150ss. I saw in ur last video that you have a garage of your own. Will you be able to suggest if that's possible?
Yep that is all possible, as long as the power consumption is about the same
Hey D3s, I saw your review before buying this bike, now it`s 7k km ruined, and the least long drive is 1500km so far. and not found any issues for me, and soon I am planning for a 6000km long ride I would like to get some suggestions from you. thx.
Thanks for sharing
Exchust sound is good or not
Thanks for the sharing. I decided not to buy one of them. Thanks.
No problem 👍
Do you have some tips for alleviating or fixing the problems before It becomes an issue? Most especially the vibrations
You can but anti vibe rests
How it compares to BMW G650GS?
Those issues with the shifting is enough to steer me away for my first bike. That’s too bad. How do you overcome this? Everything else is fantastic. But not safe. Looking now at MT03 or CB300 variants
Thanks for the comments, its not a major issue and a good bike. Try several bikes and see what you like best
D3Sshooter you are awesome for responding to fan posts. Unfortunately possibility of death on a false neutral situation is no small issue for me. Unless there has been a proven mechanical solution.
What is this clicks jargon?
hello there.. can you tell me you opinion about the pedal of the rear break of the moto? I think it's very difficult to use it...
Yes it is..there is nt much to say about it... but you can always modify it
Very nice Review. However, I like to point out not every country has a Speed limit of 120kph. Here in Australia, it is 100kph with some 110kph freeways. Having said that in a 100kph zone you could sit at 95kkph well within the bikes capabilities. For me the bike would be a great bike in City traffic and would be more than capable on longer rides every so often. In your case if you travel 100kms one way everyday then a bigger bike would be a good idea. Thanks for the review :)
Thanks for the info!