This is not bad. Ive been using it online with live dealer. I like it using $10,5,10 15, then back to $5. I go for 3 units per shoe with stop/loss at -5 units or 4 losses in a row but if I surpass 3 units ($30) Ill keep playing as long as I don't drop below $30 to take advantage of any long streaks. The only thing that bites you is the chops but no one strategy will beat every shoe
Hey Ken I might give this a shot but why not wait for first decision then bet follower. This will save a loss if shoe chops early. Also is there any safety net to avoid the chops other than 4 losses cause 4 chops happens pretty often. Thanks for all your advice
Hey Mike, You are right. Chops do happen alot. However, I'm playing only to see if I can catch the streak. They happen alot as well. My way let's me do this safely. As far as waiting. You sure can. Nothing in this world wrong with it. I just do player first. No real reason. No logical reason anyway. I just do. I have a 50/50 shot of winning as well. Thanks Mike.
Hey Ken have you come up with any way to deal with the chops when playing follower? I'm thinking of waiting after 2 losses for chop to break or just stop at 4 losses in a row. Lmk your thoughts
@@electricshock220 Not really Mike. If your on the wrong side of a chop, it's tough to come out. In baccarat, if you were following the shoe, you can just bet one side or the other all the time to help. But still hard. Cuz as soon as you do, mysteriously, the other side will go on streak and you won't be on it. So, long story short, pick player all the time...or banker all the time or follow the shoe and bet. Lose 30 to 50% your out. Lose 4 in a row, your out. Come back later and try again. That's all you can do.
I have been playing follow the leader for quite some time and it works most of the time. What is most important is to be disciplined when you hit your win or loss stop. Would like to see some more Bacc vids. Thanks for your time.
@@electricshock220 Virtual losses work well for me in most cases however sometimes the Pre-Determined shoe is just not cooperative and I just leave once I am down at my loss goal. I Do Not Chase Losses.
Interesting! I would like to see another Baccarat video demonstrating the RUP but aimed more at bet selection in order to get multiple wins in a row. More of how you play the shoe is where I’m going here.
You might say that follow the shoe is follow the win. This way you are guaranteed to be on the streek side when they happen. Remember win goals and loss limits are key. Thanks for the comment.
Hi Ken, need your input. what is the appropriate unit size base on a BR of US$1000/- Of course you stick to the win goals or loss limit but you can enjoy the game long enough time but not too short time to leave the table. Is there a rough ratio based on your experience. ?.
That's just personal preference. But generally speaking, what ever your bet to start, let's say $10, you want at least 10 times that. Some say 20 times. Me? Because of my win goal of 20% and my loss limit of 30% or 4 losses in a row, 10 times is fine
Thanks for sharing your experience. May be you can give mé the link of the 2 betting sites see if I can access to it and practize what I have learned from you. Thank you.
I do not go by per shoe. It's win goal, loss limit then get up. Don't care about shoe. In other words...I have a 20 to 30% win goal based off of my session BR. Let's say $1000. So, My win goal is say $200 and my loss limit is $300. It can very 10% up or down. WHENEVER one of these happen, you are done. Weather you are 10 hands in or 10 shoes in. So..lose 4 in a row....stop Lose 20 to 30%.....stop Win 30%....stop Quit or take break. The end. Hope that helps
Dear Ken, I just re-visited your RUP (applying the control mechanism - (1) Stop if loss 4 in a row, (2) Apply Loss target said 30% (3) set win target said 20%. I realized that point (2) & point (3) always the result come first with profit and loss range between 20%- 30% And (1) will give you the maximum loss of 4 losses. This means that you never have the chance to bet in a streak win outcome and win handsomely if streak is 8-9 times continuously. How do you address this scenerio?
First, you follow the win. I call it follow the shoe. So, when the 8 or 9 streak comes, you are in it on the 2nd hand. I am not quite sure what you are asking but, If your 20% win comes in the middle of your 8 to 9 win run....keep playing. Never stop in a win streak. However, after the next loss, put your session money and 20% profit in your pocket and play however you want with the excess over your 20%. Nowthen, I set the 20% win goal and 30% loss limit with 4 consecutive losses as an absolute safety valve. It is very conservative. You don't have to be quite as conservative. You set those parameters to fit your comfort zone and bankroll. Mabey 50/50?. It's up to you. Lastly, if you like the 30/20 but it's not enough money, then you just bring a bigger session bankroll to give you what you want. Hope that helps.
@Kenknowsgambling Thank you Ken. Your feedback is noted but no fully answer my question perhaps I should put in another scenario that : In any shoe we bet, either one of the 3 control mechanism can appears first before the winning streak. For example: Assuming BR is $500/-, 1 unit is $50/- with Win target is 20%($100), Loss target is 30%($150). (1) shoe no 1 may hit win target ($100) first, or (2) shoe no 2 may see loss target of $150 appear first (or (3) shoe no 3 may incur 4 loss in a row ($50x4=$200) may surface early earlier than the 2 targets. If applying the control mechanism, we will stop playing upon Win target of $100, or stop playing upon Loss target of $150 or Lose 4 in a row ($200). Most of the time, these 3 scenario will come early than the winning streak, so our end result in any shoe will be WIN $100, or LOSE $150 or $200. If that is the key point of your strategy, I will miss the next winning streak which may appears right after or a few hands after I stop continuing the bet of the shoe, which means I may miss big win or recover the loss of $150 or $200. It is not nice to see a big opportunity slip away so easy when applying your RUP strategy. May be I miss some of your points, please enlighten. Thank you.
@@francislee1066 Got it now. Yes, you are right. One of your controlls generally happen fairly quick and you can miss a streak. That is my defense of staying for a shoe or to and go broke waiting on the streak that may never happen. So, here are the possible fixes on a 500 br: 1. Don't start with a 50 bet on 500 br. On a 10 min table, start with 20. Or 2. Bring 2,000. Now 20% win is 400 30% loss is 600 Start with 50 or even 25 first bet. Or 3. Raise my conservative 20,30 to 50% win/loss and 6 consecutive losses. In other words, you do not have to play exactly by my rules. My rules are basic concepts to keep you from losing your ass..its called discipline. It's there to be on the table to get what needs to be done and then get the hell up. Some say I am too safe. That may be true. Actually it is very true. But, my whole goal with folks is how to lose less. If you go with a 1000. I don't want you coming home with nothing. Come home with at least 500. And bet another day. If you take 1000 and only come home with 500...YOU LOST 500. BUT,BUT,BUT...YOU HAVE 500 MORE THAN THE ALTERNATIVE OF ZERO. AND THAT TOO IS A WIN. Some just don't understand my philosophy or they completely disagree with it and that's ok. Some don't want to understand because the have no discipline or game plan. I just want to protect you from devastating bad runs. And by the way.............win a little profit at the same time. Did that help? Ken
@@Kenknowsgambling Hi Ken, I totally share your defensive approach on gambling. Player with crystal clear betting mind set will bet defensively when having a bad run. I will certainly try your fixes and share feedback with you, if your are ok with it. Hopefully, I can hit win target all the time & a little at a time. Thank you & Cheers for 2022
We have a 25 dollar minimum and on weekends it's a 100 minimum at the hard rock tampa. I play a lot of baccarat. Sure you can go with which ever wins on your bet and switch from which ever loses. It defenitly helps you be on the streak side. Regarding the bull back stuff well that is optional. It just depends because here's how I look at things. My goal is to get off the table as fast as possible. So I always place a bet for all my profits. So for example lets say I have grinded up a 120 dollar profit. I would do a 120 bet with the hopes of getting up to 240 or if I lose that bet I am even and just walk away even.
Chops happen. If you are win..lose..win lose then the regression up and pull will give you a profit. The big thing is this...IF YOU DO NOT LIKE WHAT IS HAPPENING ON THE TABLE....GO TO ANOTHER ONE. Win goals, loss limits is key. Chops happen. Thanks for the comment.
If you lose, lose, lose, lose. Then you must get up. That's where my safety net is. If you lose 30% of your session money or 4 in a row, you must leave the table to protect that bankroll. Fight another session.
Yes. As long as you are winning, go up a unit and drag the profit. If you lose at any time, go to original bet. Nowthen, remember your guarantee and excess. You do not have to keep adding. Once you get to your win goal, you play on excess only. You can also have another regression in there for safety. For example: Win 10..drop to 5...win...go to 10...win go 15 and pull...win go to 20 and pull...win...drop back to 5 or 10 and start up and pull from there. I call it a double regression. Your choice. Ride that streak until the wheels fall off or regress again at some point. Either way...you win.
This is not bad. Ive been using it online with live dealer. I like it using $10,5,10 15, then back to $5.
I go for 3 units per shoe with stop/loss at -5 units or 4 losses in a row but if I surpass 3 units ($30) Ill keep playing as long as I don't drop below $30 to take advantage of any long streaks. The only thing that bites you is the chops but no one strategy will beat every shoe
Yea, chops do suck.
@@Kenknowsgambling In thinking of trying to use just stop/loss per shoe & drop the 4 loss in a row
Hey can you explain the just stop/loss method please? :) @@electricshock220
10000 heaven near by , we found you , keeping up 🙏🙏.
Hey Ken I might give this a shot but why not wait for first decision then bet follower. This will save a loss if shoe chops early. Also is there any safety net to avoid the chops other than 4 losses cause 4 chops happens pretty often.
Thanks for all your advice
Hey Mike,
You are right. Chops do happen alot. However, I'm playing only to see if I can catch the streak. They happen alot as well. My way let's me do this safely.
As far as waiting. You sure can. Nothing in this world wrong with it. I just do player first. No real reason. No logical reason anyway. I just do. I have a 50/50 shot of winning as well.
Thanks Mike.
@@Kenknowsgambling sounds good. Thanks man. I may give it a shot
Just remember that nothing replaces common since. With strict discipline and money management, you can do well with almost any strategy......ALMOST.
Hey Ken have you come up with any way to deal with the chops when playing follower? I'm thinking of waiting after 2 losses for chop to break or just stop at 4 losses in a row.
Lmk your thoughts
@@electricshock220 Not really Mike. If your on the wrong side of a chop, it's tough to come out.
In baccarat, if you were following the shoe, you can just bet one side or the other all the time to help. But still hard. Cuz as soon as you do, mysteriously, the other side will go on streak and you won't be on it.
So, long story short, pick player all the time...or banker all the time or follow the shoe and bet. Lose 30 to 50% your out. Lose 4 in a row, your out. Come back later and try again. That's all you can do.
I have been playing follow the leader for quite some time and it works most of the time. What is most important is to be disciplined when you hit your win or loss stop. Would like to see some more Bacc vids. Thanks for your time.
Thanks so much DR. I got more coming. Anything in particular you would like to see?
How do you defend the chops
@@electricshock220 Virtual losses work well for me in most cases however sometimes the Pre-Determined shoe is just not cooperative and I just leave once I am down at my loss goal. I Do Not Chase Losses.
@@drjcraps1216 can you explain your strategy in more detail?
Thanks
Interesting! I would like to see another Baccarat video demonstrating the RUP but aimed more at bet selection in order to get multiple wins in a row. More of how you play the shoe is where I’m going here.
You might say that follow the shoe is follow the win. This way you are guaranteed to be on the streek side when they happen. Remember win goals and loss limits are key.
Thanks for the comment.
Hi Ken, need your input. what is the appropriate unit size base on a BR of US$1000/- Of course you stick to the win goals or loss limit but you can enjoy the game long enough time but not too short time to leave the table. Is there a rough ratio based on your experience. ?.
That's just personal preference. But generally speaking, what ever your bet to start, let's say $10, you want at least 10 times that. Some say 20 times. Me? Because of my win goal of 20% and my loss limit of 30% or 4 losses in a row, 10 times is fine
Thanks for sharing your experience. May be you can give mé the link of the 2 betting sites see if I can access to it and practize what I have learned from you. Thank you.
@@francislee1066 if you want to practice, just download most any craps game in the play store. If you want real money go to www.bovada.lv
@@Kenknowsgambling : got what you mean. Thanks a lot. You take care.
Hi Ken. I like this strategy but what is your win/goal & stop/loss per shoe?
Thank you
I do not go by per shoe. It's win goal, loss limit then get up. Don't care about shoe. In other words...I have a 20 to 30% win goal based off of my session BR. Let's say $1000. So, My win goal is say $200 and my loss limit is $300. It can very 10% up or down. WHENEVER one of these happen, you are done. Weather you are 10 hands in or 10 shoes in.
So..lose 4 in a row....stop
Lose 20 to 30%.....stop
Win 30%....stop
Quit or take break. The end.
Hope that helps
Unclear on how you are betting streaks. Do you keep doing up and pull?
Yes, but there is a limit. If you are on a 5 or six hit win streak, then I highly recommend a second regression and start up and pull all over.
I might give this a go again. Anyone have any suggestions
Fantastic
Thanks.
Dear Ken, I just re-visited your RUP (applying the control mechanism - (1) Stop if loss 4 in a row, (2) Apply Loss target said 30% (3) set win target said 20%.
I realized that point (2) & point (3) always the result come first with profit and loss range between 20%- 30% And (1) will give you the maximum loss of 4 losses. This means that you never have the chance to bet in a streak win outcome and win handsomely if streak is 8-9 times continuously. How do you address this scenerio?
First, you follow the win. I call it follow the shoe. So, when the 8 or 9 streak comes, you are in it on the 2nd hand.
I am not quite sure what you are asking but,
If your 20% win comes in the middle of your 8 to 9 win run....keep playing. Never stop in a win streak. However, after the next loss, put your session money and 20% profit in your pocket and play however you want with the excess over your 20%.
Nowthen, I set the 20% win goal and 30% loss limit with 4 consecutive losses as an absolute safety valve. It is very conservative. You don't have to be quite as conservative. You set those parameters to fit your comfort zone and bankroll. Mabey 50/50?. It's up to you.
Lastly, if you like the 30/20 but it's not enough money, then you just bring a bigger session bankroll to give you what you want.
Hope that helps.
@Kenknowsgambling Thank you Ken. Your feedback is noted but no fully answer my question perhaps I should put in another scenario that :
In any shoe we bet, either one of the 3 control mechanism can appears first before the winning streak.
For example:
Assuming BR is $500/-, 1 unit is $50/- with Win target is 20%($100), Loss target is 30%($150).
(1) shoe no 1 may hit win target ($100) first, or
(2) shoe no 2 may see loss target of $150 appear first (or
(3) shoe no 3 may incur 4 loss in a row ($50x4=$200) may surface early earlier than the 2 targets.
If applying the control mechanism, we will stop playing upon Win target of $100, or stop playing upon Loss target of $150 or Lose 4 in a row ($200). Most of the time, these 3 scenario will come early than the winning streak, so our end result in any shoe will be WIN $100, or LOSE $150 or $200.
If that is the key point of your strategy, I will miss the next winning streak which may appears right after or a few hands after I stop continuing the bet of the shoe, which means I may miss big win or recover the loss of $150 or $200.
It is not nice to see a big opportunity slip away so easy when applying your RUP strategy.
May be I miss some of your points, please enlighten. Thank you.
@@francislee1066 Got it now.
Yes, you are right. One of your controlls generally happen fairly quick and you can miss a streak. That is my defense of staying for a shoe or to and go broke waiting on the streak that may never happen.
So, here are the possible fixes on a 500 br:
1. Don't start with a 50 bet on 500 br.
On a 10 min table, start with 20.
Or
2. Bring 2,000.
Now 20% win is 400
30% loss is 600
Start with 50 or even 25 first bet.
Or
3. Raise my conservative 20,30 to 50% win/loss and 6 consecutive losses.
In other words, you do not have to play exactly by my rules. My rules are basic concepts to keep you from losing your ass..its called discipline. It's there to be on the table to get what needs to be done and then get the hell up.
Some say I am too safe. That may be true. Actually it is very true. But, my whole goal with folks is how to lose less.
If you go with a 1000. I don't want you coming home with nothing. Come home with at least 500. And bet another day.
If you take 1000 and only come home with 500...YOU LOST 500. BUT,BUT,BUT...YOU HAVE 500 MORE THAN THE ALTERNATIVE OF ZERO. AND THAT TOO IS A WIN.
Some just don't understand my philosophy or they completely disagree with it and that's ok. Some don't want to understand because the have no discipline or game plan.
I just want to protect you from devastating bad runs.
And by the way.............win a little profit at the same time.
Did that help?
Ken
@@Kenknowsgambling Hi Ken, I totally share your defensive approach on gambling. Player with crystal clear betting mind set will bet defensively when having a bad run.
I will certainly try your fixes and share feedback with you, if your are ok with it.
Hopefully, I can hit win target all the time & a little at a time. Thank you & Cheers for 2022
@@francislee1066 I would be happy to hear your progress. Thanks.
Hey Ken do you think it makes much difference to start alwaya at the beginning of the shoe?
I don't think it matters.
@@Kenknowsgambling I agree cause its all random. I can only play Bac online live dealer. They dont offer any craps where I play
@@electricshock220 😉
Been playing follow the leader with my progression method cant be beat! 5-10 units then done
what's the progression buddy
@@delux976 look for it
@@delux976 1112345681215202050
Nice!!
Could you do this at Craps with The Field and Non-Field numbers?
I'm not a big fan of the field in general. However, you can try any move you want. Test them for yourself and you will learn so much more.
We have a 25 dollar minimum and on weekends it's a 100 minimum at the hard rock tampa. I play a lot of baccarat. Sure you can go with which ever wins on your bet and switch from which ever loses. It defenitly helps you be on the streak side. Regarding the bull back stuff well that is optional. It just depends because here's how I look at things. My goal is to get off the table as fast as possible. So I always place a bet for all my profits. So for example lets say I have grinded up a 120 dollar profit. I would do a 120 bet with the hopes of getting up to 240 or if I lose that bet I am even and just walk away even.
Can you tell money managemnet and bet selection
I have several videos on that very topic. Look back to early videos. If you have questions after that, please let me know.
Thanks for the comment
You went 11-6. If you flat bet it would of came out the same amount $50.00.
The flat is good too. In longer streaks the RUP will win out. There are several ways to tackle Baccarat that are more profitable but riskier.
How about the chops happen?
Chops happen. If you are win..lose..win lose then the regression up and pull will give you a profit. The big thing is this...IF YOU DO NOT LIKE WHAT IS HAPPENING ON THE TABLE....GO TO ANOTHER ONE.
Win goals, loss limits is key. Chops happen. Thanks for the comment.
If you lose, lose, lose, lose. Then you must get up.
That's where my safety net is. If you lose 30% of your session money or 4 in a row, you must leave the table to protect that bankroll. Fight another session.
Yes. As long as you are winning, go up a unit and drag the profit. If you lose at any time, go to original bet. Nowthen, remember your guarantee and excess. You do not have to keep adding. Once you get to your win goal, you play on excess only. You can also have another regression in there for safety. For example:
Win 10..drop to 5...win...go to 10...win go 15 and pull...win go to 20 and pull...win...drop back to 5 or 10 and start up and pull from there. I call it a double regression. Your choice. Ride that streak until the wheels fall off or regress again at some point. Either way...you win.
Follow the Trend......Make chop too..easy
Follow the chop….it comes in streaks too
Not good ken
Boring