Are the posts spaced 8' on center or are there 8' gaps between the posts? It was a great video, and I'm looking at building a fence like this myself. That was one point of clarification I was looking for, though. Thanks!
Good question, it’s 8’ on center. Corral boards are sold about 16’ 3” long. The extra 3” is for wiggle room in case the posts aren’t perfectly spaced. 👍
Aren't you concerned about dry rot? The new process for PT Lumber (2005) is not good for direct burial. We're replacing all of our screened in porch 6x6's after 15 years because they are all dry rotted and the porch is about to collapse. Just thinking the fencing may have that same problem if you don't use anchors. Our porch solution is to not bury the 6x6's but use anchors above ground. What are your thoughts?
I definitely wouldn't bury supports like this for a building. Fences and structures follow different rules. I actually can't say I've ever seen a fence built with anchors. It would get expensive and time consuming in a yard like ours. We must have 400 or so posts. So, burying PT with concrete will get us 15 or 20 years. And, we'll be happy with that. By then, the wood above ground will have tons of cracks and sun damage too. The whole post will be ready to go.
Who build your porch? You should never bury a support post into the ground. A concrete footing with post anchors should have been used. For a fence.. burying the post is the norm...
Thanks! They sell corral (fence) boards about 16’ 4” or 16’ 5” long. So, you normally space the posts every 8’ and the extra 4 or 5” just gives you a little wiggle room in case one is off. Just measure and cut off the extra as you attach each board. 😁
Are you still happy with the 4x4 posts or do you wish you would have used something larger (6x6)? We are about to install a fence and trying to decide. Thanks in advance for the feedback.
Hi! 4x4 is the standard and the look people expect. It will last 15 to 20 years depending on how often water sits around the base of your post. You only need 4x6 or 6x6 posts for gates. I hope that helps. Good luck with your fence!
Looks like you are putting the rails on the outside of the posts. It seems like most people do this because it looks better but I've seen some recommendations to put them on the inside to make it harder for the livestock to push the rails off. Have you had any issues with this? I'm building a fence for goats and a few sites say they are good at doing that, at least for wire mesh fences.
Our donkeys don’t do that. But we use 3 1/2” screws. I’m sure a large animal leaning against rails installed with nails could eventually push a board out. 👍
Thanks! Ace Hardware stores sell paint that is called “Barn & Fence” paint. It comes in black, red, white, and grey. Maybe a few more colors. You can order it on their website or go into an Ace Hardware and have the person at checkout order it for you. We order 5 gallons at a time. 👍
We use 4x4 Pressure Treated posts and corral boards for our fence. Corral boards typically need to be bought at lumber supply stores. Lowes and Home Depot usually don't have them. You set the posts in concrete, let that concrete cure before installing the fence rails. You can find more details in this blog post: www.abbottsathome.com/set-wooden-fence-posts-in-concrete/ 👍
@@ricardoh3178 In our area, all fence posts for three rail fences and most other designs are installed inside with the rails facing out. To keep dogs or other small animals in, we install post inside then wrap the post with wire mesh to keep animals in, then install the rails on the outside over the mesh. That way it's easy to replace any rails that may rot or split overtime. Sandwiching the mesh between the rails and posts also makes painting each easier. 👍
I just reread the comment and realized I read it backwards. I thought he was asking about rails inside or out. We put rails inside for horses and cattle but outside if it’s just decorative and wire mesh if we want to keep out critters or stray dogs. Love the video by the way 👍
@@ricardoh3178 Thanks! I can see putting rails inside if you have cattle that are constantly leaning on fences. The post would help to strengthen that rail against the extra weight and pressure. We only have horses in our area. Homeowners still do posts inside for just a few horses. Our yards are only 2 - 10 acres. We aren't ranchers fencing huge areas. :)
That’s about right. They’re actually called Corral Boards and they have a true dimension of 1x6 (not 3/4” by 5 1/4”) unlike the 1x6’s sold for other uses. And the length is usually about 16’ 4” long. You want to set the fence posts 8’ apart, the extra 4” on the corral board length gives you wiggle room. 👍
You’ll need to check with lumber and construction suppliers. They’ll usually be in areas where the suburbs are turning into farmland. I don’t know of national chains that sell them. It’ll be regional stores.
That’s true. Not many stones here. We were just in Wyoming and Montana. There were so many rocks everywhere. We saw a lot of fencing that sat on the ground instead of being buried. You can see how they do it here: fencemontana.com/jack-leg-fencing/
You can see more details on the Three Rail Fence at the end of this tutorial. www.abbottsathome.com/set-wooden-fence-posts-in-concrete/ The fence height is generally between 4 and 4 1/2' high.
They make staples for fencing that you hammer into the posts to hold the fence in place. Hammer the staples at an angle where a vertical wire and horizontal wire cross for the tightest hold. 👍
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You can find the written steps for how to set wooden fence posts in concrete here: abbottsathome.com/set-wooden-fence-posts-in-concrete/
Really nice clear video and great job. thank you
Thanks JB! 🙏
Are the posts spaced 8' on center or are there 8' gaps between the posts? It was a great video, and I'm looking at building a fence like this myself. That was one point of clarification I was looking for, though. Thanks!
Good question, it’s 8’ on center. Corral boards are sold about 16’ 3” long. The extra 3” is for wiggle room in case the posts aren’t perfectly spaced. 👍
Aren't you concerned about dry rot? The new process for PT Lumber (2005) is not good for direct burial. We're replacing all of our screened in porch 6x6's after 15 years because they are all dry rotted and the porch is about to collapse. Just thinking the fencing may have that same problem if you don't use anchors. Our porch solution is to not bury the 6x6's but use anchors above ground. What are your thoughts?
I definitely wouldn't bury supports like this for a building. Fences and structures follow different rules. I actually can't say I've ever seen a fence built with anchors. It would get expensive and time consuming in a yard like ours. We must have 400 or so posts. So, burying PT with concrete will get us 15 or 20 years. And, we'll be happy with that. By then, the wood above ground will have tons of cracks and sun damage too. The whole post will be ready to go.
Who build your porch? You should never bury a support post into the ground. A concrete footing with post anchors should have been used. For a fence.. burying the post is the norm...
Nice video. Do you have a gate installed on this fence? Would you start with the two posts for the gate to hang on and then go 8’ out from those?
My husband usually only goes 4' away (max) from a gate before installing a fence post. it gives the gate more support. 👍
Great video , what is the spacing of the boards?
Thanks
Thanks! They sell corral (fence) boards about 16’ 4” or 16’ 5” long. So, you normally space the posts every 8’ and the extra 4 or 5” just gives you a little wiggle room in case one is off. Just measure and cut off the extra as you attach each board. 😁
I bet digging those old posts out was a "bear".
Yep, took a lot of work.
Are you still happy with the 4x4 posts or do you wish you would have used something larger (6x6)? We are about to install a fence and trying to decide. Thanks in advance for the feedback.
Hi! 4x4 is the standard and the look people expect. It will last 15 to 20 years depending on how often water sits around the base of your post. You only need 4x6 or 6x6 posts for gates. I hope that helps. Good luck with your fence!
Looks like you are putting the rails on the outside of the posts. It seems like most people do this because it looks better but I've seen some recommendations to put them on the inside to make it harder for the livestock to push the rails off. Have you had any issues with this? I'm building a fence for goats and a few sites say they are good at doing that, at least for wire mesh fences.
Our donkeys don’t do that. But we use 3 1/2” screws. I’m sure a large animal leaning against rails installed with nails could eventually push a board out. 👍
Wow, this was very helpful. What fence post paint did you use?
Thank you, by the way
What are the dimensions on your posts? Our ranch can use a makeover, I'm going to try and give a whack at it during this quarantine
Thanks! Ace Hardware stores sell paint that is called “Barn & Fence” paint. It comes in black, red, white, and grey. Maybe a few more colors. You can order it on their website or go into an Ace Hardware and have the person at checkout order it for you. We order 5 gallons at a time. 👍
The posts are just standard pressure treated 4x4’s. 😊
So do I put the post in the ground,then put the wire and then the coral boards??
Yes, if you need wire, put it on the posts after the concrete has set.
Okay that's what I thought just making sure. I appreciate it
Hi, what kind of fencing did you use? And it looks like you did post then fence then the wooden planks?
We use 4x4 Pressure Treated posts and corral boards for our fence. Corral boards typically need to be bought at lumber supply stores. Lowes and Home Depot usually don't have them. You set the posts in concrete, let that concrete cure before installing the fence rails. You can find more details in this blog post: www.abbottsathome.com/set-wooden-fence-posts-in-concrete/ 👍
I read it’s better to have the posts on the outside of the pasture. How do you do corners in that instance?
I’ve only ever seen it with posts inside. Complete rails on one side of corner. Then make the other side cover the post and edges of last side. 👍
Inside is better for livestock…outside if it’s mostly decorative or for dogs and small animals.
@@ricardoh3178 In our area, all fence posts for three rail fences and most other designs are installed inside with the rails facing out. To keep dogs or other small animals in, we install post inside then wrap the post with wire mesh to keep animals in, then install the rails on the outside over the mesh. That way it's easy to replace any rails that may rot or split overtime. Sandwiching the mesh between the rails and posts also makes painting each easier. 👍
I just reread the comment and realized I read it backwards. I thought he was asking about rails inside or out. We put rails inside for horses and cattle but outside if it’s just decorative and wire mesh if we want to keep out critters or stray dogs. Love the video by the way 👍
@@ricardoh3178 Thanks! I can see putting rails inside if you have cattle that are constantly leaning on fences. The post would help to strengthen that rail against the extra weight and pressure. We only have horses in our area. Homeowners still do posts inside for just a few horses. Our yards are only 2 - 10 acres. We aren't ranchers fencing huge areas. :)
What dimensions are the fence boards? They look about 1x6x16
That’s about right. They’re actually called Corral Boards and they have a true dimension of 1x6 (not 3/4” by 5 1/4”) unlike the 1x6’s sold for other uses. And the length is usually about 16’ 4” long. You want to set the fence posts 8’ apart, the extra 4” on the corral board length gives you wiggle room. 👍
@@AbbottsAtHome thanks! Where did you get them? I’ve looked at all the big box stores and can’t find them…
You’ll need to check with lumber and construction suppliers. They’ll usually be in areas where the suburbs are turning into farmland. I don’t know of national chains that sell them. It’ll be regional stores.
No too many large stones to deal with. Some of us aren't so lucky.
That’s true. Not many stones here. We were just in Wyoming and Montana. There were so many rocks everywhere. We saw a lot of fencing that sat on the ground instead of being buried. You can see how they do it here: fencemontana.com/jack-leg-fencing/
How tall is the fence? And plank spacing?
You can see more details on the Three Rail Fence at the end of this tutorial. www.abbottsathome.com/set-wooden-fence-posts-in-concrete/
The fence height is generally between 4 and 4 1/2' high.
How did you add the wire in the fence?
They make staples for fencing that you hammer into the posts to hold the fence in place. Hammer the staples at an angle where a vertical wire and horizontal wire cross for the tightest hold. 👍
No need for the music !
Some people like it. Some people don’t. You can always mute it. 👍