Man, your channel is really underrated. You are quite literally the only TH-camr who focuses on Fable, giving the rest of Fable fans a source of entertainment that we hadn't had in awhile. I know the community is relatively small, but I think when the Fable reboot comes out and if it's great, people will come looking for more Fable content and it'll be your time to shine. Keep grinding and doing what you do my friend.
I appreciate the kind words! Fable has so much information and I do love piecing together the information that players may have missed. I'm expecting the Fable community to grow massively when we get more information!
Masonite23 I love skyrionn and I feel so happy every time he uploads something fable related, but he isn't the only youtuber who covers fable content. There is another channel called brok and sindri where they cover fable content aswell, usually lore or theory discussions. I'd recommend checking them out aswell.
I think the Sirens were repurposed for the Banshees we see in the ruins of Oakvale as I see a lot of comparisons between them in terms of being (what appear to be) towering, ethereal creatures. Plus, Banshees have their wailing while Sirens are supposed to sound beautiful, so I’d be willing to bet that was the commonality between them. I think that for a game where most of the creatures you meet are automatic enemies, they realised Sirens wouldn’t work in this format so they changed the focus to the Banshees as explicitly and outwardly evil creatures to defeat, rather than trying to work some kind of deception mechanic in there or something that just wouldn’t work with 2’s combat system.
Fable II being my personal favorite one, I would've absolutly loved seeing more of these concepts put in the game. I also think that Fable II should have expanded more on the Old Kingdom even just with little hints put here and there all across Albion.
I think with The Old Kingdom, they gave us just enough information for it to stay fantastical and mysterious. It was kind of a fine line. I would like a game dedicated to that age though
You know I can’t help but wonder how this franchise would be if peter did not hype up each one as the second coming of Christ and actually communicated with his team to see if that is possible before he promises something
Art books and design bibles are really underrated for use in study, Theory craft, and just general appreciation of games. This art book is just as cool as the Jak and Daxter one with little bits of info
Really cool find on the artbook. Great video as usual. I really like the Balverine variations, like they are evolving and specializing based on their environment, how they were turned, or who they were as people (ala Left4Dead zombies).
Nice job on covering cut content for Fable 2, mate! Cool to see someone else make such an indepth video about the topic! A lot of stuff in here that I didn't even know for the second game.
iirc, the clown hobbe was called "the hobbe child catcher" which im assuming was cut to stick the lore stating that whispering voices were what lured in the children
9:10, I suspect that Well Cave and Well Cave may have been the way from Brightwood to Deepwood given they both describe what sounds like an underwater cave. Perhaps this would've been some underwater gameplay between Brightwood and Deepwood, or maybe just a loading screen between the two.
Me and a friend of mine have gotten back into fable going backwards from 3 to lost chapters/anniversary so it's been awesome to find out more lore or other things I didnt know about them.
What a fantastic video to stumble across. I own this book myself along with the guide book but have yet to go through it in detail. Your presentation of the contents and how its information ties things together in the lore makes it a lot more comprehensible and easy to follow. Now I want to spend way too much time in wikis again.
I get what they were going for in the Crucible where you would have a bunch of different levels to suit a lot of different play styles and different environments for different creatures, it’s a pretty neat idea but when you compare it to the epic scale of the Witchwood Arena or how cool the spike based designs of the original concept for this arena looked, it’s hard to not feel disappointed by the execution of it. It just always felt like it was lacking something majestic those versions had.
@@Skyrionn I love fable I wish there were more stories different locations besides borrowstone and oakvale can't wait to see what playground has to offer for the new fable.
The "New World" quest in Fable 3 never featured sirens, the women on the rock were stranded and wanted help but the delusional Malusa thought they were sirens. Hence why when the ship (accidentally) circled back to them, they found 2 skeletons. Where sirens DID feature was in the book Fable: Edge of the World, which was meant to bridge the story from Fable 3 to Fable: The Journey. The Hero of Brightwall had a run-in with them in Sky Blue Lake in Samarkand.
Loved the video! Might be my favourite of yours so far! Could you do a origin video on Garth? For someone so powerful and knowledgable in the Fable universe, we almost get no backstories on him.
I kinda wish they'd went through with the different balverine types. I still love the balverines we got, it would've been awesome to have balverines that potentially use will. If something as dumb a hobbe can learn will, surely a balverine could too
Awesome video man, you get better with the camera angles and pretty scenery in every episode. I finally got a copy of fable anniversary on my Xbox 360, I found it in a game store in Michigan :)
I bought the Fable Legends artbook and I have a pdf of the Fable 3 artbook. Now all I need is this one and I will have them all!!! (Unless there's a Fable 1 artbook I don't know about)
I loved Fable 2. I think I like it more than the first. The world just feels more vast and advanced. Using guns was so much fun. I do admit it is lacking enemy variety. I think Fable would be better as a TRULY open world. With so many more side quests you can do. The likes of Fallout, TES, and Dragon Age. Because once you beat the games, there isn’t much to do. For the new games: more quests, more choices, more monsters, more to explore!
there’s a small island in fable 3 I can’t name but it’s a whole sidequest where you kill all the hobbes on the island so they can build a small commune.
Yeah, Fable III is okay. But have you ever emersed yourself in Fable II. I'm loving the concepts and very upset that the Sirens never made the cut! 🥺 It would definitely be more fun to have Banshee's, Siren's, (and even Wraiths) in Oakvale/Wraithmarsh instead of silly ole Hollow men. 😔 However, the DLC is pretty great and this was my childhood game, I could never not play it when I had a stressful day. I love this game and will always hold a special place in my heart! 😊💜
It's been cool to have different forms of all the other creatures like ballerines and all that just randomly have a magic bell ring shooting orb of magic at you out of nowhere where does he come from? Or have another version of Hobbs have some trolls
It'd would have added even more variation. I always found Balverines to be extremely annoying to fight. If they had a mage variation, I think it would have made them a little more interesting
I have a question I have a second disc for fable 2 filled with concept art and that stuff does anyone know how valuable it is with fable 2 it for the artwork of the disc is the I think evil side of the boxart
If you have the Limited Edition, I found that it sells for $121 CAD on Amazon. Given that you want to just sell the concept art disc I’d say $50-70 is reasonable.
Idk if you knew this but I talked to one of the devs a few years back, and he said the ending was supposed to be you fought your way up the spire while lucien was corrupting it or something and u were supossed to get to the top and fight him and kick him off or something, but they ran out of time and made it a joke instead.
I believe the best arena was in Fable one mainly because in Fable 2 you had to use your gun or some kind of ranged attack I don't like being forced to use a specific attack to be able to do something
Well, according to the Book "Edge of the World", the Hero of Brightwall *did* marry before he traveled to Samarkand but I don't think his Wife was pregnant in the Story.
I prefer the more wolf like balveries in the concept art to the classic fable ones. The classical balverine looks like a mangey ghoul vs the concepts ferocious wolf like beasts.
10:28 Historicly bows are used while theres were muskets because flintlocks were slower & actully bows are cheep light & fast & you could collect your arrows & they are silent weapons untile the late 1600 s for some reason
I would’ve taken deep wood over wraith marsh hands down, I understand that wraith marsh is home to oakvale which the devs wanted to take us to for nostalgia reasons. In my opinion though, deep wood makes more sense when you consider that the entire main story revolves around the activation and rebuilding of an old kingdom artifact, deep wood feels like it could have been much more relevant to the story.
Fable is a beautiful mess The art work is S grade The in game graphics are S grade (unique designs and love how literally everything has no straight lines) it gives a very real authentic look and at the same time it’s so story book illustrated. The potential of Fable is what makes it far more intriguing to people who enjoyed playing Fable and Fable II
I'd say I completely agree. The main issue with Fable 2 was that it is a fantastic game but it could have been even greater. Time restraints really do get in the way of greatness.
@@Skyrionn I agree not having the long bows killed me. having just guns in the third abosulty killed it for me. cant wait for the new game I have some high hopes good chatting with you man have a good day.
Nice video but I think the balverines concept art might just be a reference for designing balverines instead of actual enemies because they seem too much like werewolves than balverines
I'm still working on video length, but if the information isn't there, I can't drag it out and still have it be entertaining. The theories are still great for expanding the video length still :)
Man, your channel is really underrated. You are quite literally the only TH-camr who focuses on Fable, giving the rest of Fable fans a source of entertainment that we hadn't had in awhile. I know the community is relatively small, but I think when the Fable reboot comes out and if it's great, people will come looking for more Fable content and it'll be your time to shine. Keep grinding and doing what you do my friend.
I appreciate the kind words! Fable has so much information and I do love piecing together the information that players may have missed. I'm expecting the Fable community to grow massively when we get more information!
Masonite23 I love skyrionn and I feel so happy every time he uploads something fable related, but he isn't the only youtuber who covers fable content. There is another channel called brok and sindri where they cover fable content aswell, usually lore or theory discussions. I'd recommend checking them out aswell.
I like to think that the game would have enought content to give this channel more work than he can do :)
Agreed🗣
The hooded statues in the old kingdom tombs always reminded me of the “dark guardian” statues that come to life for the crawler in Fable III
Nice spot. Maybe some connection there? Who knows...
i noticed that too , i would always expect them to come alive and attack lol
I think the Sirens were repurposed for the Banshees we see in the ruins of Oakvale as I see a lot of comparisons between them in terms of being (what appear to be) towering, ethereal creatures. Plus, Banshees have their wailing while Sirens are supposed to sound beautiful, so I’d be willing to bet that was the commonality between them.
I think that for a game where most of the creatures you meet are automatic enemies, they realised Sirens wouldn’t work in this format so they changed the focus to the Banshees as explicitly and outwardly evil creatures to defeat, rather than trying to work some kind of deception mechanic in there or something that just wouldn’t work with 2’s combat system.
Fable II being my personal favorite one, I would've absolutly loved seeing more of these concepts put in the game.
I also think that Fable II should have expanded more on the Old Kingdom even just with little hints put here and there all across Albion.
I think with The Old Kingdom, they gave us just enough information for it to stay fantastical and mysterious. It was kind of a fine line. I would like a game dedicated to that age though
The "evil mermaids" in those Driftwood notes in Fable 3 were actually female castaways screaming for help.
10:30 Ironically, in Europe, bows lasted longer than crossbows in military usage, existing alongside guns for a while.
You know I can’t help but wonder how this franchise would be if peter did not hype up each one as the second coming of Christ and actually communicated with his team to see if that is possible before he promises something
I feel like it's not just the limitations of the team, but rather, the limitations on the time they have to get the game out
That's why, typically, after you get a new game, they release patches and updates almost a month or so after
He is the king of lies for a reason
Art books and design bibles are really underrated for use in study, Theory craft, and just general appreciation of games. This art book is just as cool as the Jak and Daxter one with little bits of info
They really are! It was great to get a greater understanding of the creation of the game.
Really cool find on the artbook. Great video as usual. I really like the Balverine variations, like they are evolving and specializing based on their environment, how they were turned, or who they were as people (ala Left4Dead zombies).
Nice job on covering cut content for Fable 2, mate! Cool to see someone else make such an indepth video about the topic! A lot of stuff in here that I didn't even know for the second game.
Glad you enjoyed it! I felt like it was a great opportunity to take just a week away from lore and explore Fable in a different way!
@@Skyrionn I hope you continue as I can't think of anyone better to cover Fable 2 and 3.
iirc, the clown hobbe was called "the hobbe child catcher" which im assuming was cut to stick the lore stating that whispering voices were what lured in the children
That makes them so much worse!
9:10, I suspect that Well Cave and Well Cave may have been the way from Brightwood to Deepwood given they both describe what sounds like an underwater cave. Perhaps this would've been some underwater gameplay between Brightwood and Deepwood, or maybe just a loading screen between the two.
Brings me back, I've forgotten so much
Me and a friend of mine have gotten back into fable going backwards from 3 to lost chapters/anniversary so it's been awesome to find out more lore or other things I didnt know about them.
I'm glad you found the channel! Ther's still more to come too :)
What a fantastic video to stumble across. I own this book myself along with the guide book but have yet to go through it in detail. Your presentation of the contents and how its information ties things together in the lore makes it a lot more comprehensible and easy to follow. Now I want to spend way too much time in wikis again.
Glad it was helpful! I do enjoy making them!
I get what they were going for in the Crucible where you would have a bunch of different levels to suit a lot of different play styles and different environments for different creatures, it’s a pretty neat idea but when you compare it to the epic scale of the Witchwood Arena or how cool the spike based designs of the original concept for this arena looked, it’s hard to not feel disappointed by the execution of it.
It just always felt like it was lacking something majestic those versions had.
I agree with everything you just said
The witchwood arena makes you feel brave and courageous
Hammer mentions the sirens in her song in fable 2 "Down by the reeds swim the sirens of Oakvale out to the seas"
The nightmare creature looks like something out of oddworld.
YES! 100%
@@Skyrionn I love fable I wish there were more stories different locations besides borrowstone and oakvale can't wait to see what playground has to offer for the new fable.
I love this video! Super awesome seeing Fable concept art I hadn’t already seen! We need more😂
The "New World" quest in Fable 3 never featured sirens, the women on the rock were stranded and wanted help but the delusional Malusa thought they were sirens. Hence why when the ship (accidentally) circled back to them, they found 2 skeletons.
Where sirens DID feature was in the book Fable: Edge of the World, which was meant to bridge the story from Fable 3 to Fable: The Journey. The Hero of Brightwall had a run-in with them in Sky Blue Lake in Samarkand.
My favourite in the franchise and one of my favourite games of all time. Love your channel - keep up the great work.
Thanks so much! I'm glad you're enjoying the content.
Loved the video! Might be my favourite of yours so far! Could you do a origin video on Garth? For someone so powerful and knowledgable in the Fable universe, we almost get no backstories on him.
I do have Garth on my list. Slowly getting around to him. As long as I can find enough information, I'll make something!
Thanks for this. Its always so cool to see how the design process went on something you love
I kinda wish they'd went through with the different balverine types. I still love the balverines we got, it would've been awesome to have balverines that potentially use will. If something as dumb a hobbe can learn will, surely a balverine could too
I was hopping for a video like this, thank you soo much for you fable content!
My pleasure! I'm glad you enjoyed it. There are a few more videos like this coming in the near future
what a great, charming video! Different kinds of hobbes are my favourite part, but everything else is pretty neat too :)
I'm glad there was something that stood out!
I absolutely love your Fable content
I appreciate that! A large group still do and I'm sure that as more information comes out about the new game, it will grow larger.
Fable could've been so "darksouls" could've been awesome
Awesome video man, you get better with the camera angles and pretty scenery in every episode. I finally got a copy of fable anniversary on my Xbox 360, I found it in a game store in Michigan :)
Hate that it was never on the PC
seeing the autumn pictures makes me want to just wander around albion and explore its mysteries all day lol
Wow, some of those creatures are outstandingly terrifying, good videos Skyrionn, thanks!
They are! It would have been awesome if they were included!
I really hope that we will get a Fable 2 remaster someday i absolutely loved that game on the good old Xbox 360.
I'd love to see a remaster for Fable 2 and a pc port
@@Skyrionn I think it is possible to play with Xbox games somehow though 🤔
HOW TELL ME NOW MORTAL!!!!
I bought the Fable Legends artbook and I have a pdf of the Fable 3 artbook. Now all I need is this one and I will have them all!!! (Unless there's a Fable 1 artbook I don't know about)
If you find a Fable 1 book, please let me know! I haven't been able to find one. The Fable Legends book is fascinating
Fable 2 wasn’t my favourite but I have to say that this was an interesting video
Thanks my dude
LOVED this one! I had no idea about all this stuff! I'm sad there weren't real mermaids
Amazing. It's crazy to see how much cut content there was. I wonder if Playground will bring a few of those ideas into the new Fable...
It'll be interesting to see what Playground do. More than anything, I'd love to see Sirens
@@Skyrionn Definitely. I'd also love to see the different types of Balverines. I think they're some of my favourite Fable enemies.
I was always pleased with the end results of all the characters.
You ever thought of doing a fable series iceberg video? I think that would cool
I do have a script slowly forming for an iceberg video...
I loved Fable 2. I think I like it more than the first. The world just feels more vast and advanced. Using guns was so much fun. I do admit it is lacking enemy variety.
I think Fable would be better as a TRULY open world. With so many more side quests you can do. The likes of Fallout, TES, and Dragon Age. Because once you beat the games, there isn’t much to do.
For the new games: more quests, more choices, more monsters, more to explore!
there’s a small island in fable 3 I can’t name but it’s a whole sidequest where you kill all the hobbes on the island so they can build a small commune.
Driftwood. My favourite place in Fable 3!
The multiple balverines explains why they look different in the fable 4 trailer.
Yeah, Fable III is okay. But have you ever emersed yourself in Fable II. I'm loving the concepts and very upset that the Sirens never made the cut! 🥺
It would definitely be more fun to have Banshee's, Siren's, (and even Wraiths) in Oakvale/Wraithmarsh instead of silly ole Hollow men. 😔
However, the DLC is pretty great and this was my childhood game, I could never not play it when I had a stressful day. I love this game and will always hold a special place in my heart! 😊💜
Also, just wanna say, I hecking love his voice so much lmao
Thanks my dude
That nightmare creature looks like it belongs in Dark Souls not Fable 🤣🤣🤣
It absolutely does
14:23 They remind me of the Dark Sentinel too
It's been cool to have different forms of all the other creatures like ballerines and all that just randomly have a magic bell ring shooting orb of magic at you out of nowhere where does he come from? Or have another version of Hobbs have some trolls
It'd would have added even more variation. I always found Balverines to be extremely annoying to fight. If they had a mage variation, I think it would have made them a little more interesting
I really missed two-handed swords in the second part. And now after seeing your vid I really think I would have enjoyed rapiers.
Rapiers would have been fantastic. It's a shame we didn't get them
It would be so cool if they put some of the cut content from the three other games into the new fable game
Just imagine. That'd be great!
This is awesome and I wish I had known about it when I first picked up fable 2
Now is your chance to replay the game!
I have a question I have a second disc for fable 2 filled with concept art and that stuff does anyone know how valuable it is with fable 2 it for the artwork of the disc is the I think evil side of the boxart
If you have the Limited Edition, I found that it sells for $121 CAD on Amazon. Given that you want to just sell the concept art disc I’d say $50-70 is reasonable.
You are complete genius
Idk if you knew this but I talked to one of the devs a few years back, and he said the ending was supposed to be you fought your way up the spire while lucien was corrupting it or something and u were supossed to get to the top and fight him and kick him off or something, but they ran out of time and made it a joke instead.
Don’t worry I hate clowns to, and the ever evolving fear of Balverine takeover continues
clowns are literally the worst things in existence.
@@Skyrionn yeah, I’ve never really liked clowns always creeped me out.
Ordered the book looks great
I believe the best arena was in Fable one mainly because in Fable 2 you had to use your gun or some kind of ranged attack I don't like being forced to use a specific attack to be able to do something
Luv this channel, keep it up 🤙🏼
Thanks! Will do!
So by theory, if the hero had children that passed on the hero bloodline wouldnt the hero you play as in fable 3 do the same?
Well, according to the Book "Edge of the World", the Hero of Brightwall *did* marry before he traveled to Samarkand but I don't think his Wife was pregnant in the Story.
fable 2 always felt a little unfinished. Makes sense they had actually planned for more but it was cut.
It really did. Still a great game but it would have been great to experience more
I prefer the more wolf like balveries in the concept art to the classic fable ones. The classical balverine looks like a mangey ghoul vs the concepts ferocious wolf like beasts.
This is fantastic! :D
Thanks my dude
10:28 Historicly bows are used while theres were muskets because flintlocks were slower & actully bows are cheep light & fast & you could collect your arrows & they are silent weapons untile the late 1600 s for some reason
I would’ve taken deep wood over wraith marsh hands down, I understand that wraith marsh is home to oakvale which the devs wanted to take us to for nostalgia reasons.
In my opinion though, deep wood makes more sense when you consider that the entire main story revolves around the activation and rebuilding of an old kingdom artifact, deep wood feels like it could have been much more relevant to the story.
REALLY COOL!💖💖
Interesting
It was so fun to learn everything while researching
@@Skyrionn I bet. Hope you had fun at least.
The weird clown thing was a Hobbe Child-Catcher. You can guess from the name what it does.
I got this from Mike McCarthys' artstation, I think.
That makes sense. Still an absolutely horrid creature to look at
This is great!
Thank you :D
Beautiful work! How the hell did you convert paperback pages to clear digital ones??
That nightmare creature 3:50 horrifying
Absolutely
Do we think a lot of this old concepts could possibly make it into the newest game they are working on?
1:46 is that Siren pregnant or something?
Thank you for the contribution to the Fable community! :)
Fable is a beautiful mess
The art work is S grade
The in game graphics are S grade (unique designs and love how literally everything has no straight lines) it gives a very real authentic look and at the same time it’s so story book illustrated.
The potential of Fable is what makes it far more intriguing to people who enjoyed playing Fable and Fable II
I'd say I completely agree. The main issue with Fable 2 was that it is a fantastic game but it could have been even greater. Time restraints really do get in the way of greatness.
6:18 does anyone else see a lions head with the albion Maps? Just realized it now
Im sad, i remember the "Darker" fable that never come.
4:00 lol sown somones face on his head
I miss fable...i wish it would be qvailible on PC other than TLC/ANIVESARY
fable lost chapters was the best 2 was really good just had some issues with magic and guns and not having long bows
I think I feel the same. Fable was great followed closely by Fable 2. I prefer the old timey weaponry
@@Skyrionn I agree not having the long bows killed me. having just guns in the third abosulty killed it for me. cant wait for the new game I have some high hopes good chatting with you man have a good day.
They can use this
For the new game
That'd be cool
I forget if Fable II is still an xbox exclusive or not.
Are you using an emulator to play fable 2? It looks much better than mine looks and im on series s playing on high graphics mode
Could you please talk about project ego?
That is something I do have planned. Some research needed!
What if the old kingdom was the blade kingdom but their king got killed so the queen left with 2 followers
Nice theory, but we do know that The Old Kingdom was formed after The Court were destroyed.
First.
Also I knew nothing of this
Congrats on being first! I hope you learned something interesting
That clown hobb is so f'ed because Hobbs are abducted then corrupted children and the red hand prints on that clowns outfit... Oh nonono
yyyyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! more BTS!
yup :D
Nice video but I think the balverines concept art might just be a reference for designing balverines instead of actual enemies because they seem too much like werewolves than balverines
man i really hope there are mermaids in the next fable they are my favorite mythological creatures 😔❤️
Nice. A good long video for once!
I'm still working on video length, but if the information isn't there, I can't drag it out and still have it be entertaining. The theories are still great for expanding the video length still :)