I bought the X54 from Majesty two weeks ago, the grinder is kind of weird so I contacted them. Thank you for the wonderful response of the employee, and the new grinder just arrived and the test was excellent. Thanks to Majesty and Visions Espresso Service, Inc.😃
Ok I solved my problem I’ve had many many grinders sitting next to my eureka and little by little I sold them All. My eureka is still stirring next to my espresso machine.
I think a taste test would have been the most important thing to compare. Also, speed is very overated because slower rpm generally is considered to make better grinds.
Hm. 120w? That sets the alarm bells ringing. With a European-made 310w motor, the Mignon will eat any bean you put in it. Eureka is a fabulous manufacturer who hand-make their entire grinder near Florence in Italy (starting with an aluminium ingot!). Most of the other home/light-commercial grinders are manufactured in China. Look at how nice the display is on the Mignon too; That’s classic, high quality European graphic design. It’s been made that way because it looks beautiful, and a designer made that decision. The Specialita is also designed to work in a small bakery or shop that also serves coffee to go. If you get a chance to pick one up, then do. It’s actually difficult! You literally have to prepare for the lift.
The previous videos I've seen regarding the X54 all mentioned rather poor, high retention ((7 grams sitting in the machine). That seems like a petty big amount of old beans from day to day (or am I overthinking it). Is this something that Mahlkonig fixed? Or something that you don't consider to be that bad for the home user?
With our X54 which was brand new out of the box, retention has never been more than a gram at most after almost a month of use now. As long as you perform routine removal of the top burr and chute for cleaning the retention should never be that high. Thanks for the question!
I think there is a difference in the way you both use the word "retention". As I understand the video, he uses it to mean "how much coffee by weight is ground out in specific amount of time" You are using the word like I would use it to mean "the amount of coffee left in the grinder" He does not seem to consider single dosing, only using a filled hopper, where retention is not an issue.
Can i ask you what you mean when you use the word "retention"? As I use the word to mean "the amount of ground coffee left in the grinder" To measure it, you clean the grinder completely, then weigh out a dose, grind it, and weigh it. The difference will be the retention. I just rewatched and I think I would call that consistency or repeatability.
You’re correct! The grinders are relatively low-retention based on single dosing tests after cleaning. The tests performed in our reviews are more-so looking at consistency. Great point and thanks for watching!
@@majestycoffee Yeah people forget that words are individual carriers of meaning, they think one word has a defined narrow range of actual meanings, when they don't. I think the world would be niccer if more people understood this. Because you are also correct, the grinder withholds some grounds every time it is used. I find communication intreresting and I am a nerd :)
About a month ago I would have bought the eureka, but from day to day I‘m more focused on a Mahlkönig. I think it will be a x54 as a e65s gbw is not affordable for me at the moment (around 2000 Euros)
Yeah I try not to get wrapped up in specifications but that seems awfully low by comparison- wish they would say the torque of the motor rather than its consumption of watts. But it’s pretty slow so I’m guessing it’s just a weaker motor. 🤷♂️
Again it’s kinda strange at 120W. A hand grinder generally has smaller burrs than the electric grinders so you’re not grinding as many beans at one time. I guess if they use really aggressive gearing it might be enough power. Again just strange when you think about other rotational appliances and how much power they use. A blender uses way over a 1000W generally (a good one). So 120W seems really under powered.
@ Jordan Dunham - I’m really wondering if it isn’t just a typo from the manufacturer, and reviewers don’t know any better so they repeat the spec. I’ve come across this on occasion, where the spec page for a product just has a typo, which leads to misunderstandings from the community.
@@BigBear-- The power is one of my concerns, too. For example, the non-espresso grinder Fellow Ode has 140w. And most espresso grinders stand at 350w and above.
I bought the X54 from Majesty two weeks ago, the grinder is kind of weird so I contacted them. Thank you for the wonderful response of the employee, and the new grinder just arrived and the test was excellent. Thanks to Majesty and Visions Espresso Service, Inc.😃
I’m gonna go for the specialita👍
Thank you for the great review, helped a lot
Ok I solved my problem I’ve had many many grinders sitting next to my eureka and little by little I sold them
All. My eureka is still stirring next to my espresso machine.
I think a taste test would have been the most important thing to compare. Also, speed is very overated because slower rpm generally is considered to make better grinds.
I'd think they're indistinguishable
what do you think about this grinders for a little coffeeshop making less than a kilo of coffee a day
By just comparing design, I'll definitely go with X54
The design is pretty cool, we definitely agree. Happy brewing!
Would you recommend the eureka specialita for a small coffee shop?
Great video Logan! 🫶
Hm. 120w? That sets the alarm bells ringing. With a European-made 310w motor, the Mignon will eat any bean you put in it. Eureka is a fabulous manufacturer who hand-make their entire grinder near Florence in Italy (starting with an aluminium ingot!). Most of the other home/light-commercial grinders are manufactured in China. Look at how nice the display is on the Mignon too; That’s classic, high quality European graphic design. It’s been made that way because it looks beautiful, and a designer made that decision. The Specialita is also designed to work in a small bakery or shop that also serves coffee to go. If you get a chance to pick one up, then do. It’s actually difficult! You literally have to prepare for the lift.
The previous videos I've seen regarding the X54 all mentioned rather poor, high retention ((7 grams sitting in the machine). That seems like a petty big amount of old beans from day to day (or am I overthinking it). Is this something that Mahlkonig fixed? Or something that you don't consider to be that bad for the home user?
With our X54 which was brand new out of the box, retention has never been more than a gram at most after almost a month of use now. As long as you perform routine removal of the top burr and chute for cleaning the retention should never be that high. Thanks for the question!
I think there is a difference in the way you both use the word "retention". As I understand the video, he uses it to mean "how much coffee by weight is ground out in specific amount of time"
You are using the word like I would use it to mean "the amount of coffee left in the grinder"
He does not seem to consider single dosing, only using a filled hopper, where retention is not an issue.
Thank you from Thailand 🥳 i need X54
Thanks for watching! It’s an excellent machine.
These both look great for an upgrade. Oh the Eureka is pronounced Spech-a-lee-tah, emphasis on the “tah”.
This
Specialità or Specialita' (with the wrong keyboard)
Specialita all day every day.
Can i ask you what you mean when you use the word "retention"?
As I use the word to mean "the amount of ground coffee left in the grinder"
To measure it, you clean the grinder completely, then weigh out a dose, grind it, and weigh it. The difference will be the retention.
I just rewatched and I think I would call that consistency or repeatability.
You’re correct! The grinders are relatively low-retention based on single dosing tests after cleaning. The tests performed in our reviews are more-so looking at consistency. Great point and thanks for watching!
@@majestycoffee Yeah people forget that words are individual carriers of meaning, they think one word has a defined narrow range of actual meanings, when they don't.
I think the world would be niccer if more people understood this.
Because you are also correct, the grinder withholds some grounds every time it is used. I find communication intreresting and I am a nerd :)
Do you think I can have the x54 for my small bakery, serving 20-30 espresso a day? It's sooo beautiful and because it's a mahlkonig haha
About a month ago I would have bought the eureka, but from day to day I‘m more focused on a Mahlkönig. I think it will be a x54 as a e65s gbw is not affordable for me at the moment (around 2000 Euros)
Totally understandable, the nice part being Mahlkonig is a great brand and retains value well so you can always upgrade down the road. Happy brewing!
Why? I want to buy one of these. Which would you recommend?
Wait the X54 has a 120W motor? That’s tiny…might be enough to power a small toy. Did you mean a 1200W at 110/120V
No, it's 120W (according to Mahlkönig). You don't need much power to grind (think about hand grinder)
Yeah I try not to get wrapped up in specifications but that seems awfully low by comparison- wish they would say the torque of the motor rather than its consumption of watts. But it’s pretty slow so I’m guessing it’s just a weaker motor. 🤷♂️
Again it’s kinda strange at 120W. A hand grinder generally has smaller burrs than the electric grinders so you’re not grinding as many beans at one time. I guess if they use really aggressive gearing it might be enough power. Again just strange when you think about other rotational appliances and how much power they use. A blender uses way over a 1000W generally (a good one). So 120W seems really under powered.
@ Jordan Dunham - I’m really wondering if it isn’t just a typo from the manufacturer, and reviewers don’t know any better so they repeat the spec. I’ve come across this on occasion, where the spec page for a product just has a typo, which leads to misunderstandings from the community.
@@BigBear-- The power is one of my concerns, too. For example, the non-espresso grinder Fellow Ode has 140w. And most espresso grinders stand at 350w and above.
taste is key...
it's a cheap grinder it made for drip coffee its easy to use and to buy. EK43 is a better for Espresso coffees wheelchair larry
It is pronounced SPETIALITÁÁ
Malhkonig outsources to China. I’ll never buy one.