Japan & the Portuguese Barbarians

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  • @TastingHistory
    @TastingHistory  2 ปีที่แล้ว +169

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    • @indyfan9845
      @indyfan9845 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

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    • @melissar850
      @melissar850 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

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    • @Ugly_German_Truths
      @Ugly_German_Truths 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wait the sugar turned to caramel if you don't add water? But when you see recipes how to make caramel you put in sugar AND water ... weird.

    • @catgodswim
      @catgodswim 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

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    • @ciello___8307
      @ciello___8307 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Id love to see an early tempura or castella video

  • @livias.g.7029
    @livias.g.7029 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1752

    I was really fascinated by the concept of sweet egg noodles, but then you said they were fios de ovos, my jaw dropped! I didn't know they were a thing in Japan!!
    Fios de ovos are a Christmas staple in my family. My grandma (who is Portuguese) used to make them both as a dessert (served on top of a crispy pastry, she called them "barquete de fios de ovos") or as a side dish/topping for roasted ham. They're really good paired with meats and savory dishes
    Thank you for sharing yet another amazing video, Max. I'll finish watching it now, because I'm so curious about the History!

    • @DLFH
      @DLFH 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Other than ham what other meats have you and your family paired it with? I think this might have to make a guest appearance this weekend during our food marathon.

    • @castellobranco4344
      @castellobranco4344 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      The same here in Brazil. We're very fond of the delicious "doçaria portuguesa".

    • @prichicardos
      @prichicardos 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Well, Portuguese had a lot of influence in Japan during this age. Not sure if the video says it, because I didn't finish it yet, but tempura comes from Portugal as well...

    • @mellie4174
      @mellie4174 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      are they still cooked in sugar when paired with meat?

    • @DLFH
      @DLFH 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@prichicardos We definitely need a tempura Tasting History video.

  • @dig5700
    @dig5700 2 ปีที่แล้ว +611

    Hey, portuguese culinary/confectioner student here!
    Fun fact that one of my teachers told me, centuries ago, egg whites were used a lot in ironing church clothes, mainly priest clothing which left a lot of egg yolks in the monetaries/convents.
    Monks and other cleric workers took those yolks and started a whole new style of confections called conventual sweets or "doçes conventuais" which the base is, you guessed it, eggs (mostly yolks but whites too) and lots of sugar.
    In the category of conventual sweets you can find fios de ovos, doçe de ovos (sweet egg cream, roughly translated), pasteis de nata (custard tarts as I heard some call them), amongst other eggy confections that are so important for my country's gastronomy and tradition.
    It's always awesome to see dishes and sweets that are or have roots in my homeland!

    • @masonreed6845
      @masonreed6845 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      pasteis de nata is one of my all time favorites. thanks for the info!!!

    • @simplyaregularguy131
      @simplyaregularguy131 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      those sweets you mentioned look delicious

    • @sn4tx
      @sn4tx ปีที่แล้ว +22

      It’s a fact that many countries have several levels of Portuguese influence. Some where even the language is an influence. Others where straight up Portuguese cuisine became a staple, even if in a local version. In Others was simply the influence of a single ingredient. There’s a fun episode/ story of Thai people visiting Portugal. They were walking the streets of Lisbon when they saw through the windows of a bakery/ pastry business, what they thought it was Thai deserts. And they were impressed. More impressed they were later, when they found out that actually the Thai deserts they were thinking of (I have no clue what exactly they were referring to) had Portuguese origins.

    • @globalist1990
      @globalist1990 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@sn4tx the Portuguese did some horrible things, most notably the Atlantic slave trade, but still shared lots of good things with nothing to gain from it, just the joy of sharing a good thing. ✌️

    • @fernandes.ricardo
      @fernandes.ricardo ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@globalist1990 what? they didn't share their cooking knowledge out of philanthropy. Instead, by settling in different places, even if only temporarily, their everyday life was mingled with that of locals, and hence their cultures, including their cuisines, just got mixed with or at least influenced each other

  • @crimsonsnow4465
    @crimsonsnow4465 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1072

    Something to always to keep in mind in cooking seems to be:
    The lesser the amount of ingredients needed, the harder the dish is to get right.

    • @TastingHistory
      @TastingHistory  2 ปีที่แล้ว +206

      So true!

    • @poiuytrewq11422
      @poiuytrewq11422 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Fried Eggs beg to differ

    • @Tentaclestudio1
      @Tentaclestudio1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +120

      Mmm.. I think fried eggs are simple once you know how, but if the cooking oil is too hot ... Or the top of the white is not set, or the yoke breaks... still plenty of room for disaster in the humble fried egg!

    • @groofay
      @groofay 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @@Tentaclestudio1 Agreed here, I know theoretically how to make a fried egg, and sometimes do it well, but the fact that all the steps need to be done perfectly makes it deceptively difficult.

    • @Dr.Yalex.
      @Dr.Yalex. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      @@poiuytrewq11422 LOL, actually a well fried egg is a well described culinary difficulty...and main reason there are "breakfast" cooks.
      Example: to make "killer" over-easy eggs, has taken me years to perfect.
      LOL

  • @brunooliveira-js1oi
    @brunooliveira-js1oi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1239

    My grandmother use to make "fio de ovos". She passed away this year, I almost cried through the video, not the what I expected from the channel.

    • @serendipityme9371
      @serendipityme9371 ปีที่แล้ว +68

      My mum used to make this, it was my favourite when I was a child.
      Sometimes I can close my eyes and still taste it and see her smile at my pleasure.
      Thank you Max for bringing back such a beautiful memory.

    • @david_contente
      @david_contente ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I love the brazilian pronunciation in the video ahahahaha lmfão

    • @CraftingStudios1337
      @CraftingStudios1337 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      May she rest in peace my friend . Much love

    • @USMarshmallow
      @USMarshmallow ปีที่แล้ว +13

      May her memory be a blessing for you and all who knew her. I'm so sorry for your loss.

    • @s.baldrick870
      @s.baldrick870 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      "fios de ovos"

  • @animalsarethebest3974
    @animalsarethebest3974 2 ปีที่แล้ว +767

    We also have this egg thread in Thailand , which is influenced by the portugese. It's a traditional dessert here; we called it "Foi Thong" , which means golden thread in English.

    • @alemilano5576
      @alemilano5576 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      A foi thong indeed

    • @animalsarethebest3974
      @animalsarethebest3974 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@alemilano5576 Sorry, my bad. Foi Thong, indeed. 👍

    • @homelessperson5455
      @homelessperson5455 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      That name is hilarious omg

    • @impatvish9451
      @impatvish9451 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I looked it up and we use Jasmine water instead of plain water and that’s fascinating

    • @ohhgumdrop
      @ohhgumdrop 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@homelessperson5455 it's pronounced more like "tong" than "thong"

  • @puriphatsrinithiwat7409
    @puriphatsrinithiwat7409 2 ปีที่แล้ว +572

    Fun facts: The sweet egg ramen is also very popular in Thailand as Max mentioned about a particular funnel that is used to make the ramen in the video. Long story short, in 17th Century Thailand it was introduced by Maria Guyomar ,a merchant daughter of Japanese-Portuguese descendants, who was married to a Greek statesman. It was called Foi-Thong which means "Golden threads".

    • @mehae_1991
      @mehae_1991 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And then that Greek statesman Name Constantine falcon made a coup poisoning king try to be king with another Siamese high ranking government official than get his head cut off.

    • @dittasuwan
      @dittasuwan ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Foi-Thong name of Thai dessert was influenced by Portugal.

    • @Fabiani930
      @Fabiani930 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      We call them "golden threads" in Portugal too among other names depending on the region.

    • @arianhrodkeltoi8104
      @arianhrodkeltoi8104 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Maria Guyomar (Guiomar) is a typical portuguese name.

  • @DLFH
    @DLFH 2 ปีที่แล้ว +911

    This channel has been the cause of many dish revivals for various meals.

    • @erdnasiul87
      @erdnasiul87 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      It's fio de ovos, very common in Portugal and portuguese speaking countries

    • @leademi1387
      @leademi1387 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      I tried the saffron rice and OMFG was it delicious! I did it on the risotto setting of my rice cooker and it came out fantastic! It’s now a staple side dish for me to take to gatherings.

    • @TD-ug4mg
      @TD-ug4mg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      I say this channel and Townsend's are driving a resurgence in old dishes. Both equally wonderful channels

    • @rookierook99
      @rookierook99 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Townsends too with their 18th Century American cooking

    • @timpauwels3734
      @timpauwels3734 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Also Historical Italian Cooking
      I made a Roman beef stew “Copadia”for lockdown Christmas dinner 2 years ago and it was absolutely out of this world!

  • @temari-wl7yb
    @temari-wl7yb 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    I am Japanese.
    This yellowish sweet candy has been my favorite ever since I was a little girl.
    When I was a little girl, my late grandmother bought it for me. And now I buy them for my daughter, but she doesn't eat many because they are too sweet.
    There are not many stores that sell these, so I don't get a chance to buy them, but when I do find them, I always buy them.

    • @fernaodias2591
      @fernaodias2591 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Boa tarde..Veja a receita de """ farófias """ é complementar aos " fios de ovos """ pois se usa as claras dos ovos.....são as minhas sobremesas favoritas....adeus ...de Portugal

  • @energuminum
    @energuminum 2 ปีที่แล้ว +735

    Great video! A curiosity about the Portuguese bringing foods to Japan:
    On the way to Japan, the Portuguese would stop at Cambodia, and they picked up a kind of squash, that they would just call Cambodia squash. When trading with the Japanese, the Japanese called it Kabocha squash. It became more popular in Japan than with the Portuguese, so nowadays in Brazilian Portuguese we use the name Kabocha squash, even though the name came from Cambodia squash. History is weird like that!

    • @sarahwatts7152
      @sarahwatts7152 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I love how weird this is!

    • @julesdrey7415
      @julesdrey7415 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      I wonder if the history of persimmons coming to Brazil is similar since we also use the Japanese word for them.

    • @Drebin416
      @Drebin416 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Kabocha means pumpkin!

    • @b.a.erlebacher1139
      @b.a.erlebacher1139 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      And this squash, a variety of Cucurbita maxima, came from the Americas originally. It's basically what we call Buttercup but bred to have a reduced "button" on the end. It's popular in Korean cuisine as well.
      Really interesting the journey this squash has made. I wonder how it got to Cambodia. IIRC, Cambodia is Kampuchea in Cambodian, which is closer to kabocha.

    • @Archihuman
      @Archihuman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@julesdrey7415 Chamam-lhe caquis no Brazil? em Portugal, são "diospiros"

  • @georgeselly3426
    @georgeselly3426 ปีที่แล้ว +2173

    "They show their feelings without any self-control"
    Japanese person encounters southern European extroversion for the first time, is horrified

    • @blackknightjack3850
      @blackknightjack3850 ปีที่แล้ว +84

      Pretty sure they're just annoyed by the Jesuits forgetting that Nichiren was just as obnoxious like 300 years earlier.

    • @NotSomeJustinWithoutAMoustache
      @NotSomeJustinWithoutAMoustache ปีที่แล้ว +57

      Wait was it the Japanese person saying this or Goho? I thought it was the Chinese guy describing them lmao

    • @尘-s8b
      @尘-s8b ปีที่แล้ว +119

      @@NotSomeJustinWithoutAMoustache It was the Chinese guide who came with the Portuguese. This basically applies to how East Asian civilizations feel toward the Europeans/westerners in general 😂 even till this day.

    • @NeostormXLMAX
      @NeostormXLMAX ปีที่แล้ว +42

      South europeans are usually more open than northern Scandinavians as well not a japanese thing

    • @Thecrazysamurai69
      @Thecrazysamurai69 ปีที่แล้ว +72

      @@NeostormXLMAX eventhough, of all the southern europeans, us portuguese are the most quiet and "stoic".... which isn't saying much, but still

  • @TheWhiteDragon3
    @TheWhiteDragon3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +242

    I love the history from the first contact between the Portuguese and Japanese. It's so incredibly detailed and well recorded even with excellent art depicting events. Plus the haughty language looking down on the Europeans while still being immaculately polite and genuinely interested in their cultural differences especially tickles me.

    • @globalist1990
      @globalist1990 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      The funniest thing is both sides considered theirs the most civilised. It's a bit sad the Portuguese weren't a bit more tactful about Japanese beliefs and tried to impose their religion a bit too hard. I think they could have so much to learn from each other at the time to find out that maybe they had so much more in common than differences.

    • @miguelpadeiro762
      @miguelpadeiro762 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      ​@@globalist1990The Portuguese motto of exploration and the whole reason we ventured into unknown oceans could be summed in three points
      1. Find riches in the form of the spice trade to appease merchants
      2. Find lands to conquer to appease the nobility
      3. Find new peoples to convert to appease the clergy
      These cultural clashes of history are so interesting, especially this one which is so contrasting, it's kinda sad we had to go with point 3 and shit Jesuit missionaries out of our ships lol :t
      At least we did get something from them culturally, in Portuguese we call a machete a "catana" which comes from Katana

    • @globalist1990
      @globalist1990 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@miguelpadeiro762 the spice trade benefit was cutting off middle men, namely ottomans, Arabs, people from North Africa and also Venetians and other Europeans. They just rolled up their sleeves and said f it let's get it ourselves. About territorial expansion, I don't think Portugal was too keen on it. Maybe basically Brazil. African territories were most coastal fortified cities to support the ships and trade with the mainland they were located in. Angola and Mozambique were severely underdeveloped and most development actually came to support the Portuguese military fighting in the colonial wars in the 20th century. About the religion it's more than that, everyone was Catholic to the point of fanatic zeal (inquisitions, anyone?), they actually believed they were saving people's souls, and bringing them to the light and civilising them. And in a way they actually were. Europe brought lots of benefits to the world, along with all the problems I guess.
      You bring an interesting point about the Jesuits which were actually not Portuguese, it was a Catholic international institution. Were they replaced with normal Portuguese people, the interaction might have proven to be much more beneficial for both parts.

    • @theotherohlourdespadua1131
      @theotherohlourdespadua1131 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      For the Japanese, you can pretty much blame that on quasi-Confucianist sentiments. While Japan does not fully embrace Confucianism as much as Joseon-ruled Korea and China, remnants of their beliefs (such as cultural exceptionalism) still remain. The fact that they have no word for "foreigner" but used "barbarian" to refer to such is an example of that...

    • @Kamamura2
      @Kamamura2 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@globalist1990 Catholics and polite? LOL! The pope has issued a bull called "Et Ceteram" that among other things divided the New World to two parts - one should be ruled by the Spanish, and second by the Portuguese, regardless of the will and well-being of the native people. Catholic religion is the most aggressive, intolerant and expansionist monotheistic system (together with the Islam).

  • @iveyao120
    @iveyao120 2 ปีที่แล้ว +238

    I did remember visiting Japan years ago, and we couldn’t speak the language then, but being Chinese, we could read the Kanji on the signs. That exchange with the Japanese and Chinese man reminded me of that.

    • @indiomie
      @indiomie ปีที่แล้ว +7

      that's something i'm very curious about.
      does it flow the same way? or do you have to adjust for dialects, or the language and stuff?

    • @andrewli6606
      @andrewli6606 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@indiomie modern Japanese isn’t readable to Chinese people anymore. To simplify, Japanese script has 3 kinds of characters, Chinese characters called kanji, which are pictographic, and hiragana and katakana, which are both phonetic letters. While hiragana and katakana were created in the 8th century, they weren’t codified until 1900, so very old Japanese can be written all in Chinese characters. There were probably some grammatical differences, but close enough that a Chinese person and Japanese person could understand each other. Today, a Chinese person might be able to get a gist of what a Japanese sentence is talking about, but probably not as well centuries ago.

    • @shaggycan
      @shaggycan ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yeah I noticed. When he said the Portuguese were called Nanban, I was like hey that almost exactly the same in Chinese. (Nanman = southern barbarian)

    • @lilychu8912
      @lilychu8912 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Same for my parents. They visited Japan a few years ago and when their rudimentary Japanese failed them, they would try writing Chinese characters to communicate in a basic way. It did work several times.
      (I can speak Chinese fluently. A couple times, since there are many Chinatowns around the world, I got by on my Chinese when English or my very basic version of the visited country's language failed.)
      (The Castella cake can be found at many Japanese/ Korean bakeries today, including those in the US. It is yummy and nanban chicken is on some Japanese menus. In HK, the Portuguese of course contributed to the development of 2 types of egg tarts.)

    • @noroiko7996
      @noroiko7996 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Back in those days, the Japanese village chief in the story and the Chinese scholar would likely have learned Classical Literary Chinese writing , and I would guess that's what they communicated in. Compared to Chinese people going to Japan and looking at the kanji or vice versa, they probably could communicate in writing much better back then, as it was more or less the same language. (However they would not speak it in the same way and it was primarily a written language only, so they could not communicate verbally).
      Technically schools in both China and Japan still teach Classical Literary Chinese, now called 文言文 in China and 漢文 in Japan. But I doubt the average person knows it well enough to even think of using it to communicate xD

  • @fren111
    @fren111 2 ปีที่แล้ว +463

    you can say what you want about the portuguese people but their cuisine is godlike, especially the sweets, they must have the most underrated cuisine in the world

    • @jetfowl
      @jetfowl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      Definitely the pastries. I have to limit myself when I see them, otherwise I'd end up being a round ball.

    • @hj-ct2qi
      @hj-ct2qi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      so true, as an american the thing i remember most about my trip to northern Portugal eleven years ago was buying a random pastry for a euro at an open-air market in Ponte de Lima and having it be the best baked good i had ever tasted. i've traveled internationally much more since then and nothing has come close.

    • @gandalfgrey91
      @gandalfgrey91 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      What do you mean say what you want about Portuguese people??

    • @macbrown99
      @macbrown99 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@gandalfgrey91 Portuguese people are quick to offend you see, a distinct failing. We forgive them only because of the quality of their sugary noodles.

    • @gandalfgrey91
      @gandalfgrey91 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@macbrown99 Its your fault I’m angry 🤣

  • @sergiocecilio5938
    @sergiocecilio5938 2 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    Hi Max! I'm Portuguese and my wife is a baker and makes fios de ovos!
    Fios de Ovos, Créme brulée, Pão de Ló (the portuguese version of that sponge cake that Japanese cook in pots, and other kinds of sweets made of egg yolks happened because in monasteries the egg whites were used to iron priests and nun's clothes, so they had lots of egg yolk surplus, and used to invent these delicacies. We call them "Doces Conventuais"
    Greetings from Portugal

  • @mollyscozykitchen4693
    @mollyscozykitchen4693 2 ปีที่แล้ว +220

    Max saying “I was a fool” in reference to the simplicity of the recipe hit close to home! The fewer ingredients, the trickier the technique. Loved this episode, a lot of the themes are relevant to my history class.

    • @filipasales9291
      @filipasales9291 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      😂That's true. I'm Portuguese and I'm screaming at this video, this is so easy if you know differents points of the sugar with water.😂 But learning the difference is the issue.

    • @capuchinosofia4771
      @capuchinosofia4771 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@filipasales9291do you have any extra tips for cooking this dish? Im thinking of making it for breakfast tomorrow!

    • @filipasales9291
      @filipasales9291 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@capuchinosofia4771 That's the problem it's something I know from watching it be made. If I try explaining without you seing it, it won't work. Let me try to find a Portuguese video.

  • @thoufeelali147
    @thoufeelali147 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    Hey. I am from Kerala, India, and I grew up eating "Muttamala" the South Indian version of this dish, although I knew that the dish is directly influenced by the Portuguese I didn't know that it had other regional variations 😄

    • @lunan5197
      @lunan5197 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Lots of Malayalee dishes come from the Portuguese! Obviously dishes like stew and puffs are Portuguese, but so is puttu and vindaloo which is soooo interesting to me.
      Lots of our dishes come from the Dutch too actually! Like palappam and acchappam are Dutch.
      Kerala is soooo interesting because it has such a complex global culture that basically no one outside (or inside) Kerala really thinks about.

  • @vanessacurcio4618
    @vanessacurcio4618 2 ปีที่แล้ว +239

    Incredible!!! In Brazil it is no longer a trend, it is disappearing, unfortunately. I love them, and all the birthday cakes in my childhood had these as toppings. Lovely!!! Thank you so much for this history!!!!!!!

    • @CarlGorn
      @CarlGorn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Well, now you have inspiration to make them yourself and keep them alive in the culture. I'm tempted to try them myself, assuming I can find or fashion an appropriate dispenser.

    • @carloshenriquezimmer7543
      @carloshenriquezimmer7543 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Some bakeries here in Rio Grande do Sul still make them as toppings for cakes
      And you can find them to sale at supermarkets too, but I am not so much of a sweet tooth, so I may not even noticed if they had become rare.

    • @ciello___8307
      @ciello___8307 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Its not really a thing in japan either

    • @DaviRenania
      @DaviRenania 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Here in Rio you can find it in most bakeries.

    • @ruialmeida818
      @ruialmeida818 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      In the region of Aveiro, in the North of Portugal, it is still very popular. In fact, the conventual desserts are still very popular across the country, but in Aveiro you have Fios de Ovos, Lampreia de Ovos, and Ovos moles, which are quite famous, and rightly so.

  • @kulawittumwongyuen813
    @kulawittumwongyuen813 2 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    In Thailand, we also inherited this recipe from Portuguese during Ayutthaya period. We named it 'Foi Tong : ฝอยทอง' which means Golden Threads (well, it should be 'Tong' rather than 'Thong' because the phonics of the letter 'ท' is more like 't' rather than 'th'). Normally we prefer using duck eggs for this recipe. Sometimes a combination between duck eggs and chicken eggs (like 15 duck eggs and 5 chicken eggs). In Thailand, we normally use jasmine fragrance water and drop some pandan leaves in the water.

    • @ParinandVarnasavang
      @ParinandVarnasavang ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I prefer not to use fragrance water at all because it subdues the eggy flavor which charaterizes this dessert.

    • @miamorg2352
      @miamorg2352 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Saw this recipe and thought it "looks like ฝอยทอง" ❤

  • @jessicacabral9867
    @jessicacabral9867 2 ปีที่แล้ว +259

    I am portuguese! I loved the video! Usually, we don't eat "fios de ovos" on its own. We like to garnish desserts with this type of egg noodle. In the '90s we used to decorate cakes with "fios de ovos". We still do nowadays, but not as much as a few years ago.

    • @carloshenriquezimmer7543
      @carloshenriquezimmer7543 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Same here in Brazil, at least in the south. I mean, the country is the size of a continent, I don't know how they would enjoy this in the north.

    • @BathroomTile
      @BathroomTile 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      I don't know, there's the lampreia de ovos which is at least for me a popular christmas desert that's basically just fios de ovos, there's the dom rodrigos from Algarve which is a little fios de ovos bundle with cinamon and almonds, there's the trouxas de ovos which are filled with fios de ovos. Funnily enough I don't remember ever eating it as a cake topping.

    • @ruialmeida818
      @ruialmeida818 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Em Aveiro comes fios de ovos como sobremesa. Fios de ovos, lampreia de ovos e ovos moles são as sobremesas mais famosas nesta zona.

    • @ruialmeida818
      @ruialmeida818 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@BathroomTile In Aveiro its the same way - you have fios de ovos with pretty much everything, and they are also served on their own.

    • @vigilantcosmicpenguin8721
      @vigilantcosmicpenguin8721 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ooh, that's the kind of fancy cake decoration I can get behind.

  • @claramoniz6542
    @claramoniz6542 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Southern barbarian here! 🙋‍♂️🤣 loved the video.
    Another one is bread and how Japan and Korea prononces its same is similar to portuguese pan=pão 😊

    • @melissamoonchild9216
      @melissamoonchild9216 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      there's actually a number of words in Japanese that come from Portuguese

  • @mongeeses7112
    @mongeeses7112 2 ปีที่แล้ว +208

    Portugal had a huge influence on cuisine from all types of places. Fish and Chips are derived from Spanish and Portuguese Jews who immigrated to the UK (The Portuguese where big on frying things apparently). Chinese egg tarts (a childhood favorite of mine) are derived from pastel de nata and variations on it are still big in former Portuguese colonies and influenced places. Getting back to Japan there’s a lot of Portuguese derived words; one you didn’t cover is that the Japanese word for bread, pan, is from the Portuguese word for bread pão (the accent makes it sound like there’s an n at the end).

    • @emmitstewart1921
      @emmitstewart1921 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Hey Max, looks like you need to look up a few Portuguese cookbooks.

    • @barrymalkin4404
      @barrymalkin4404 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@emmitstewart1921 Max could do a lot worse. Portuguese food is wonderful, especially its baked goods which the half Portuguese Emeril Lagasse featured in many of his recipes. Their desserts could be meals unto themselves.

    • @jaredthehawk3870
      @jaredthehawk3870 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Pan could also come from Spanish, as Pan is the Spanish word for bread.

    • @saber2802
      @saber2802 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      So how does Pão differ from Pan as in the Spanish language for bread?

    • @emmitstewart1921
      @emmitstewart1921 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@barrymalkin4404 That's what I meant. I've never eaten Portuguese food, but its reputation is immense, and I'd like to know more.

  • @anaeliziario1413
    @anaeliziario1413 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I was so impressed they eat fios de ovos for so long in Japan... or discovering they eat them at all! I am Brazilian and here it is kind of a grandma style dessert. It is eaten on Christmas night (we have a feast at midnight on December 24th) or used to decorate birthday cakes or puddings.
    Love your work, Max!

  • @Kentanimationnnnnnnnn
    @Kentanimationnnnnnnnn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    growing up i was taught japanese at home by my mom and went to a japanese saturday school. i knew some japanese words had foreign origins but never actually knew where they came from - just kind of accepted and understood it inherently... kastella was mind blowing

  • @sasusquatch
    @sasusquatch ปีที่แล้ว +99

    I studied abroad in Nagasaki back in 2018 and probably ate more castella cake than was absolutely necessary 😅Great video, definitely made me a little bit nostalgic. I also had no idea that konpeito came from a Portuguese word, you learn something new every day!

    • @zeppelincraft1443
      @zeppelincraft1443 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They go really well with brandy or whiskey.

  • @luciogama5778
    @luciogama5778 2 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    I believe the main reason for not tasting "eggy" is that you remove the yolk membranes when sieving. Three same is done with other Portuguese/Brazilian recipes such as quindim and flan.

    • @JT-yj3tr
      @JT-yj3tr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Quindim is awesome. My childhood sweets.

    • @danisteffen-translations
      @danisteffen-translations 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Exactly! Quindim is another nightmare to make. You have to be skilled to make these recipes with eggs, it is not just mixing things with a blender or mixer and putting them in the oven. Several steps, specific temperatures, moving your hand in a specific way during a specific time, and so on...

  • @anthonyragan2696
    @anthonyragan2696 2 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    That was one of the most interesting history segments you've had in a long time. I'd never realized the Portuguese had such an influence on Japanese cuisine.

    • @eduardoavm4197
      @eduardoavm4197 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      And the other way around. The word Biombo (folding screen) is a Japanese word that we still use in Portugal. As for the Spanish-Portuguese controversy over pão, let's remember that the crowns of Portugal and Spain were unified in 1580 (up to 1640). So you had a period since 1543 to 1580 with was pretty much Portuguese exclusive and another later period in which is more probable that some Spanish were involved, mostly in the religious orders. Spanish presence were never massive compared to the Portuguese. Although under the same king, Portugal and Spain were not integrated. So it is quite strange that the Japanese pan would come specially from the Spanish pan instead of the Portuguese pão (that we really don't know how was pronounced in 1500s).

    • @Fabiani930
      @Fabiani930 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The "Tempura" technique was introduced to Japan by the Portuguese too. and our word for bread is "Pão" which the Japanese use a similar word since we introduced it too.

    • @josuenogueira5719
      @josuenogueira5719 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@eduardoavm4197 I would assume that Japanese couldn't pronounce the nasal sound of the ~ and sounded like pan when trying to say it. If you remove the nasal sound it does more closely sound like pan than pão even though it came from the portuguese word.

    • @antonioencarnacao708
      @antonioencarnacao708 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And to Indian food. For example tomatoes and chilis found their way to India with the Portuguese.

    • @miguelpadeiro762
      @miguelpadeiro762 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@eduardoavm4197It's very fair to assume they just translated our Pão to Pan and not necessarily borrow it from the Spanish.
      A good example from this is modern Japanese borrowings from English and how they change the words to sound "more Japanese"
      And making Pão Pan is very understandable given its really hard for foreigners to read the -ão diphthong

  • @pswinck
    @pswinck 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    In Brazil you know Christmas is coming because you start seeing fios de ovos and panetone everywhere. I love it! Fios de ovos are really sweet but if eaten with moderation, they are delicious, specially with a savory dish

  • @ruialmeida818
    @ruialmeida818 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Greetings Max. Portugal has a huge tradition of what we call Conventual Sweets (literally translated) - the most famous one is the custard tart, but there are a huge collection of such desserts. The one you presented here is a derivation of Egg Strings (fios de ovos).
    Conventual desserts usually have a huge amount of egg yolks - the nuns used to use egg whites as starch for pressing their clothes, so they tended to have a huge amount of yolks available. As such, and as a way to earn money for the convents, they tended to bake desserts to sell, and they used the yolks in those recipes.

  • @LadyLunarSatine
    @LadyLunarSatine 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Regarding Japan's old religious-basis dietary laws; Japanese used certain "counter words" instead of just putting an s in front of the noun (like turkeys when you have more than one turkey) and it just so happens that "bird" and "rabbit" use the same counter word because it was a common practice for butchers who prized taste-over-laws to knowingly sell cuts of rabbit mixed in with their chicken offerings.

  • @DonyaLane
    @DonyaLane 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    The linguistic aspect of this history lesson was the most interesting to me. I enjoyed hearing the Japanese adaptations of the Portuguese and Spanish words.

  • @ashmomofboys
    @ashmomofboys 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I worked at a restaurant in Aspen and the chef was Thai. She used to make these for the staff all the time. They are SO good.

  • @Gitaki
    @Gitaki 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    This was such a fun episode to watch. I've lived in the US since I was 6-years-old but I'm from Brazil originally. In Brazil we use these egg noodles, or "fios de ovo" as we call them, to decorate cakes and desserts. It was awesome to learn some history about food from my childhood. Big fan! I can't wait to get your recipe book in the mail next year. Thank you for the amazing show!

  • @kaveirinhaz
    @kaveirinhaz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Great video! Portuguese cuisine is the most underrated! Many tousands of tourists can vow to that! The cake you mention is the Pão-de-Ló that has many variations in Portugal. From fluffy and soft to slightly undercooked with some eggy dough still running. You can find all these Portuguese specialities in Newark or Toronto where there are largePortuguese communities.

  • @priscilabuchguth4175
    @priscilabuchguth4175 2 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    It was funny to see your surprise 😅
    As Brazilian, I grew up with a popular bakery dessert called “lata de lixo” (don’t let the name fool you - translates to garbage can but it’s really good!), made of a chocolate cake base extra moist (you would use maraschino or other liquid to make it REALLY moisty!), in a case of milk chocolate which would be then filled to the top with chantilly and topped with fios de ovos and a maraschino cherry.
    Seriously, Brazilian bakeries are one of the things I missed the most living abroad: childhood memories linked to visiting them and seeing the displays full of sonhos, bombas de chocolate, pães de queijo and be able to ask for a pão na chapa or a misto quente…. Sweet memories 😊

    • @JT-yj3tr
      @JT-yj3tr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Agree. Brazilian sweets are one of the best, but if they would cut down the sugar, would be better. After moving abroad, a
      I then realized how sweet our Brazilian desserts are.

    • @AstarionWifey
      @AstarionWifey 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Garbage can cake 🎂 sounds intriguing ❤

    • @priscilabuchguth4175
      @priscilabuchguth4175 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JT-yj3tr true to that! It sometimes looks like condensate milk is almost everywhere 😂
      Still, gotta say I can’t get over how different the idea of carrot cale is between Brazil and UK…

    • @DaviRenania
      @DaviRenania 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JT-yj3tr Yeah, we do exagerate on the sugar

    • @danisteffen-translations
      @danisteffen-translations 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agree TOTALLY. Any type of pão doce. So difficult to reproduce here in the USA.

  • @velazquezarmouries
    @velazquezarmouries 2 ปีที่แล้ว +137

    "They are not very strange and they are quite harmless "
    How did that Chinese scholar described me so well

    • @TastingHistory
      @TastingHistory  2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      😂

    • @vigilantcosmicpenguin8721
      @vigilantcosmicpenguin8721 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      "Mostly harmless."
      - the description of Earth, in full, from the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy

    • @teslashark
      @teslashark ปีที่แล้ว +7

      He's actually not just a scholar, but a businessman who does pirate side jobs, you can search for 五峰船主汪直 on more things about him

    • @尘-s8b
      @尘-s8b ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My dude did not foresee the colonization happening 😂 but then again he wasn't with the Anglos so

    • @velazquezarmouries
      @velazquezarmouries ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@尘-s8b the Portuguese were relatively chill

  • @sarahmancebo5142
    @sarahmancebo5142 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Would love to see a video on Tempura, Max! My husband and I are Americans that just moved to Japan, but both of my in-laws are first generation Americans from Portugal. So cool to see the history between the two people groups!!!!

  • @zenkakuji3776
    @zenkakuji3776 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Obrigado! This noodle dish is new to me, but I did enjoy the barbarian's Tempura while living in Japan as well as the Casutera cake with sweetened adzuki beans on the side ☺️ I especially enjoyed tempura made with thinly sliced Japanese pumpkin / squash "kabocha". A thick skinned squash that has a rich deep flavor.

  • @julgrafia
    @julgrafia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I'm from Brazil and my Portuguese grandma always made fios de ovos around Christmas time, along with Portuguese nuts and queijo do reino

  • @mungo...
    @mungo... 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    In Thailand we also sometimes add pandan leaves to the boiling sugar mixture to give it more flavour. A popular way to eat foi thong is in a crispy crepe filled with meringue (khanom buang/ขนมเบื้อง) or on a pandan or young coconut cake.

  • @ix8750
    @ix8750 2 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    Heck yeah Max! I'd be interested to see if there is any else interesting from the "southern barbarians cookbook" if that's possible. I knew the Portuguese landed on Japan but I didn't know they left their cookbook. 😂

    • @nahor88
      @nahor88 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's lucky the Japanese didn't have enough "of value" to the Portuguese that they'd decide to build a colony like they did in India. The Portuguese gave us Vindaloo which is one of my favorite curries, but they weren't satisfied with "trading".

    • @Dan-sw8tg
      @Dan-sw8tg ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@nahor88 lololol very wrong what youve commented there. Japan just wasnt as easy to colonize as India and other places like Meso America or the Phillipines. Its not that the Portugese and Spanish didnt want it lol

    • @Valathia
      @Valathia ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@nahor88 Yeah no, the Portuguese literally founded the city of Nagasaki. And that idea did come from the guy stationed in Goa.
      Sorry about Goa though.

    • @Fabiani930
      @Fabiani930 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Being Portuguese i can guarantee you that this barbarian cookbook is filled with absolute pearls. Portuguese cuisine is unfortunatly one of the most underrated. luckily (for all of you 🤣)thats changing

    • @Fabiani930
      @Fabiani930 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@nahor88 Portugal only established a Colony because some of the locals refused to do business and they had to intervene militarily. Portugal´s first approach was to build cities and Feitorias (which are trading posts) being much easier to defend a fort than a vast territory. military conquest was always the last approach.

  • @TheRealCobra1117
    @TheRealCobra1117 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I always love these "small number ingredients, huge amount of technique" recipes! BTW, I would love to see German Schneeballen covered. They're delicious, and there's surprisingly little info on their history online.

  • @ParinandVarnasavang
    @ParinandVarnasavang ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Foi thong and other Portuguese-influenced desserts were first introduced to Siamese people in the mid-17th century when Maria Guyomar de Pinha, a half-Japanese Portuguese lady, brought the dessert to the Court of Ayutthaya during the reign of King Narai. Maria was married to Constantine Phaulkon, a Greek adventurer who became chief minister to King Narai of the Ayutthaya Kingdom. Since then, foi thong has been a part of Thai culinary tradition.

  • @fernandoarraes8601
    @fernandoarraes8601 2 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    This is probably one of the best TH-cam channels I’ve ever seen, you put so much effort into your content and it contains so much substance. I love history and I love food, so finding this is like finding a treasure

    • @stickychocolate8155
      @stickychocolate8155 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Welcome. You have found one of the greatest channels on the platform. Townsends is another channel you've probably heard of. But their channel is limited to a very specific era of cooking in Britain and mostly America.

  • @Definitely_not_Andrew_Yoshiaki
    @Definitely_not_Andrew_Yoshiaki 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Ohh a video about the country my family is from and where I'm currently residing, this is gonna be fun :D.
    Fun fact about the phrase "Nanban" and food: it's no surprise that Japan has a lot of culinary influences from the Portuguese, but we even actually have a food dish called "Nanban" today as well (spelled exactly the same as the original phrase). Usually prepared with Chicken (and thus often called "Chicken Nanban") but originally with fish, it is a dish often served at local mom and pop teishoku restaurants (restaurants that serve standard Japanese everyday meals such as rice, miso soup, and a platter of main dish such as fish and meat). It is called Nanban because the chicken or the fish is marinated in a sauce of vinegar, carrots, sugar and chili peppers and then fried and served with tartar sauce or with no sauce (this depends on the region). The marinated sauce is said to resemble Escabeche and is thought to have been brought by the Portuguese, hence the name. It's a hearty fried dish with a funny historical name and origin and I can definitely recommend it.
    Another fun Portuguese influence but with a unique name is the "castella," a type of moist cake that usually comes with a distinctive yellow cake and brown outer edges. While the taste has been adopted to the Japanese palette, it has a distinct Portuguese-Spanish influence, as while the cake is brought by the Portuguese, the cake was called "bolo de Castela," in reference to the former kingdom/region in Spain: Castille. This Spanish style Portuguese cake, is quite popular now in Japan that its often either served or used as a gift for those meeting people they haven't seen in a while (thats the best way to explain that omotenashi thing). Gift giving and reciprocal gift giving, especially confectionary is a surprisingly big manner thing in Japan, and castella is very often used for that and quite popular.
    Edit: As I finish writing this down the Castella cake is mentioned and I'm like: "yay" ahaha.

    • @vascomanata
      @vascomanata ปีที่แล้ว

      nice!! You need to try escabeche eels! especially when they're cold! Super light flavour, acid but very, very tasty!

    • @guilhermebraga2545
      @guilhermebraga2545 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Portuguese word for the cake is "pão de ló" or "bolo em castelo", which refers to the way the eggs are made "claras em castelo" (whipped egg whites).
      It's likely that the "castelo" was confused with the Spanish region called castella.

  • @Pablito003
    @Pablito003 2 ปีที่แล้ว +361

    The "addiction" to sugar in Portuguese cuisine (and that of the entire Iberian peninsula) is largely due to the almost 800 years of Arab and Moorish presence, it was these people who brought sugar cane and all the very sweet dishes that Portuguese cuisine (and our Brazilian) has until today. Fio de Ovos, is still found in the kitchen of the northeast region of Brazil.
    Obrigado mais uma vez!!!

    • @erzsebetkovacs2527
      @erzsebetkovacs2527 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      It's not just the Arab influence. Sugar was considered a healthy, nutritionally superior foodstuff by contemporary medicine. It was also expensive, so that's why they liked it so much.

    • @Pablito003
      @Pablito003 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@erzsebetkovacs2527 Europeans knew some ways of sweetening, some came from beets and others came largely from honey. Sugar derived from sugar cane was brought through the Arabs starting with Egypt, then Sicily and Spain (and the Iberian peninsula) during the 10th century onwards, after which sugar cane landed on Brazilian lands and has been part of our history ever since. . Sugar was a huge part of Arab and Moorish cuisine and both the Portuguese and the Spaniards inherited it, just as we Brazilians also inherited it.

    • @HolyKhaaaaan
      @HolyKhaaaaan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Muslim, Jew, or Christian, all eat and drink. To some degree, all eat together, in hopes that we may all be one again someday.
      I have hope that those times me and my enemies have fed each other will be considered good and salutary in the eyes of God.

    • @erzsebetkovacs2527
      @erzsebetkovacs2527 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Pablito003 Beets were not used as a sweetener before the modern invention of beet sugar. That's because ancient cultivars did not yet have the succulent roots that modern cultivars do. So the Ancient Greeks, Romans, also medieval people used beet tops for leafy greens and the roots as a medicinal ingredient. On the other hand, Ancient Greeks learned about sugar cane when Alexander the Great came close to invading India, as well, but cane sugar would not become a relatively widely known and used commodity till the Arabs. So, classical texts mention sugar cane as an exotic plant, which has a salt-like substance in it, also for medical use.

    • @ruialmeida818
      @ruialmeida818 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      In the Aveiro Region, in the north of Portugal, the egg based desserts varieties is immense. Fios de ovos, lampreia de ovos, ovos moles, are some of the most appreciated ones.
      Um abraço do Porto

  • @thaismoreiraq
    @thaismoreiraq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Fios de ovos - it is very popular in Brazil - we eat with cakes in special occasions such as weddings. I love it and will try to make it

  • @Ammeeeeeeer
    @Ammeeeeeeer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Ah, not surprised this is of Portugese origin. We have something similar to this, the name literally translated as "gold net" and its just one of many dishes influenced by the Portugese being one of our past colonial masters. My late mom loved this stuff, I thought it was ok 😁

    • @lunan5197
      @lunan5197 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Where are you from?

  • @ethanmagnuson2988
    @ethanmagnuson2988 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is the sort of thing I love about human culture. A Portuguese recipe that has become part of the cuisine in Japan, Thailand, and Brazil. So cool.

  • @lockboxDAI
    @lockboxDAI 2 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    can we take a moment to appreciate max navigating all these new but ancient words? Every episode has its share but I feel this one was especially laden with verbal minefields!

    • @bananawitchcraft
      @bananawitchcraft 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      If only Simon Whistler would take a page out of Max's book. I watch a zillion of the guy's channels, and he's alright, but the childish insistence on botching pronunciations gets a little wearisome. Not caring is the norm. It takes a special type of person to actually care about these things, and I think it shows character.

    • @MossyMozart
      @MossyMozart 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@bananawitchcraft - I used to work in an in-patient pediatric ward when we admitted a sick infant accompanied by her mother who did not speak English. My fellow nurse, who spoke Spanish, went to talk to her and came out of the room annoyed and shaking her head in dismay stating that the mom was really stupid and refused to speak to her.
      I went in and said one word, "Portuguese?" The momma enthusiastically shook her head yes, so I sent for a Portuguese translator. All was well. Don't let appearances fool you. Looking "Hispanic" doesn't mean that someone speaks Spanish.

    • @ruialmeida818
      @ruialmeida818 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@MossyMozart Yes, we tend to understand Spanish, if people speak slowly, but it tends to be hard for Spanish speakers to understand us (unless they are from Galicia).

    • @TheElefanteBranco
      @TheElefanteBranco ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bananawitchcraft And yet he said "fios de ovos" as a brazillian would, botching the portuguese pronunciation.

  • @HayTatsuko
    @HayTatsuko 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I love how you make your culinary history lessons so darned engaging. Been watching a while now and wanted to express how much I appreciate them.

  • @fishingacnh9345
    @fishingacnh9345 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I have the modern version of the cookbook called Southern Barbarian Cooking. Was shocked to find tokanstu was based on Portuguese dish!

    • @JT-yj3tr
      @JT-yj3tr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh that’s interesting. I knew tonkatsu was European influence in Japanese food, but I thought the Japanese got from the German Schnitzel.

  • @jayjaybee
    @jayjaybee 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I love that we have this perspective! So often, we never get primary source accounts from non-Europeans on how they felt.

  • @sandydee8003
    @sandydee8003 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I love how you pronounce everything so beautifully. But it’s easier for me to just call it “Hammertime Eggs”

    • @Archihuman
      @Archihuman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      In all honesty, his euro-portuguese pronunciation wasn't particularly good, it was more like Spanish. His Brazilian-Portuguese pronunciation was pretty decent though

    • @vigilantcosmicpenguin8721
      @vigilantcosmicpenguin8721 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think that captures the essence of the dish.

  • @penguinsrbirds2
    @penguinsrbirds2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The description of guns at 8:23 was wild.

  • @HenningGu
    @HenningGu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I extremely fascinated about them using Chinese characters written in the f beach to communicate. My mother had absolutely no difficulty navigating around Tokyo when we visited because she could still read some traditional Chinese characters. (I can only read simplified and reading is stretching it.)
    Just thinking about how Hanzi, Hanja and Kanji mostly retained their meaning across three different languages is kinda mind-blowing and really...... hmmmworthy.
    I mean, the Latin alphabet is used in many languages but I couldn't read or write French the same way I could read or write German and English.

  • @PilsnerGrip
    @PilsnerGrip 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    When you revealed how the "harmless" traders sold guns, I got chills.. History is so fascinating and the arrow of time cannot be stopped. And causality is a harsh mistress...

  • @TheGreatRio
    @TheGreatRio 2 ปีที่แล้ว +129

    A lot of Japanese words are actually directly taken from Portuguese, look no further than the word "bread", which in Portuguese is "pão", which has been adapted in Japan as "pan" and is the normal word used for bread. Many words like "soap" (sabão/shabon) and even the word they use for "English" (inglez/igirisu) is straight from Portoguese. It really can't be overstated how much influence the Portuguese had on the Japanese way of life, both in tools and foods as well as language.

    • @marmotarchivist
      @marmotarchivist 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      The Portuguese introduced words like Pan and Karameru, meanwhile the first German word that comes to mind is “Arbeit”/work. It’s used as “(Aru)baito”/part-time work.😅

    • @jaredthehawk3870
      @jaredthehawk3870 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Pan is also the Spanish word for bread so it probably came from the Spanish rather than the Portuguese.

    • @shortties
      @shortties 2 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      @@jaredthehawk3870 Panis is the Latin word for bread. The Spanish pan, the Portuguese pão and French pain derive from this Latin root. But this word was introduced to Japan by Portuguese Missionaries. Just see the "Silence" movie from Martin Scorcese.

    • @GODAXEN
      @GODAXEN 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@shortties but it can perfectly came from the Spanish word because not all of the Portuguese missionaries were from Portugal as some of them where from Spain, this has to do with the monastic orders and not the countries, likewise the reverse also happened.
      Also sailors from Portugal and Spain in the same ship was not unheard and this has to do of how sailors lived and the port where the ship parted.

    • @Tinky1rs
      @Tinky1rs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@marmotarchivist That might be a shared one with the Dutch that seeped through. I recall there being some trading of chemistry/medicine with the Japanese that gave them words for glass, chemicals and related devices. The Dutch don't use the word arbeid as much anymore.

  • @jcguimas
    @jcguimas ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My mother would do ' fios de ovos' with some little variations : adding fine grated orange peel to the egg and sugar misture, keep it ,in a big cristal covered bowl in a light sugar and orange bosson syrup. Another more for the adults version was keeping it in a sugar and rum syrup. Both delicious and always a great success served after meals.

  • @GilAsakawa
    @GilAsakawa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Terrific episode, and I'm glad you've found a source for historical Japanese cuisine. Thanks, I learned a lot, and I'm looking forward to your recreations of tempura and other Japanese dishes that were appropriated from the Portuguese!

  • @ruicorreia5972
    @ruicorreia5972 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    From Portugal big love to your video.
    Two usefull tips for the making of Eggs Threads or Fios de Ovos that i learned.
    Instead of stirring the egg yolk with the spoon , try to gently cut the eggs yolks membrane with a knife and let them open, if you stir to much, it will affect the texture and colour of the final product. The second tip is, before you start boilling the egg threads. Beat some egg whites to a stiff peak, and as soon as the sugar is dissolved in the hot water, add the whisked egg whites , let them cook a few seconds, remove the whisked egg whites with a spoon, and then feel free to proceed to prepare the Egg Threads. This will prevent the appearance of sugar crystals in the egg threads once they start cooling.

  • @VeryCuteGM
    @VeryCuteGM 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    My family is from Thailand and my mom made this when I was a kid. When i brought them to school they were always a hit.

  • @satanmitdengeilenbarthaaren
    @satanmitdengeilenbarthaaren ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The short hammertime edit cracked me up 😂 that was wonderful

  • @noway9081
    @noway9081 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    My favorite episodes are the ones you do involving cultural exchange and this one is my new favorite ☺️

  • @b0rbifett
    @b0rbifett 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    As a Thai and avid lover of Foi Tong, I was really happy to see this on my favourite channel 🥰 Try a bit of jasmine water in the syrup and lower the heat a liiiiiiittle bit! ❤❤

  • @Fortunes.Fool.
    @Fortunes.Fool. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    My mom was Portuguese and I lived in Japan, this episode was really cool.

  • @mglenadel
    @mglenadel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oh, the making of fios de ovos… it takes me back to the late 1980s, when I was a teenager living abroad in the US. My mom was a great cook, and being far from Brazil for Christmas (when fios de ovos was more commonly eaten) made her want to make some for an expat wives luncheon. Thankfully I was a model maker and skilled in metalwork. I ended up making a funnel like you’ve shown on the video, and mom used it to make the noodles.
    One addition, though: she used put some orange blossom syrup with the sugar syrup.
    Oh how I miss her and her cooking. ❤ love you mom!

  • @mephitamer
    @mephitamer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So cool to know this! Here in Portugal it's still pretty common. You can find them in the supermarket, or decorating some cakes. Now with the festivities approaching is even more common!

  • @littlelifes
    @littlelifes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In Portugal we also have a special utensil to make the “fios de ovos”. We do have funnels with multiple holes, but also something more like a watering can. Usually with four to six holes.

  • @bojuka
    @bojuka 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I don't know how people call it in other countries, but this dish is called "Cabelo de Anjo" in Brazil, which is portuguese for "Angel's Hair". Here, we eat it mostly as a christmas side dish and I quite enjoy it. Great video! Learned lot's today with it.

  • @wren7248
    @wren7248 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The history of tempura sounds really interesting, I really hope you do end up doing a video on it the future!

  • @a_funyun
    @a_funyun 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    You have been on a streak lately, I feel like so many videos have come out recently!! I love it

    • @TastingHistory
      @TastingHistory  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Every Tuesday and sometimes Friday 😁

    • @TastingHistory
      @TastingHistory  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      New one every Tuesday (sometimes Friday too)

    • @dawne6419
      @dawne6419 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TastingHistory I was talking to a friend the other day about TH-cam channels we follow, and while I do follow some prolific people, I do believe you are the only one who is 100% consistent. You've been sick, out of the country, on a honeymoon, and your videos drop every Tuesday morning without fail. Hats off to you, sir! 🥂

    • @TastingHistory
      @TastingHistory  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@dawne6419 thank you! I like to plan ahead 😁

  • @beatstorm9676
    @beatstorm9676 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    17:18 I saw this video today, for those that are asking why the noodles didn't melt... It's because the protein of the yolk is denaturalized, making it more firm and more stable.

  • @freelancepear87kakkoka11
    @freelancepear87kakkoka11 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    hah, portuguese and their mc hammer pants! seriously this is one of the most fascinating periods in japanese history, i love looking at how these two foreign (almost alien) cultures saw each other and how they affected each other. this recipe also seems like one of the few ones i could actually do but i don't like the idea of having a wok pan full of boiling sugar.

  • @MsRuthK
    @MsRuthK 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love this channel! I am a huge foodie and a huge history buff. I have done online cooking courses of ancient recipes and this channel fits right in. Thank you for this!

  • @PokhrajRoy.
    @PokhrajRoy. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I was about to blast into how ‘Vite Ramen’ should be pronounced but I remembered the Pemmican Episode where you did a great impression of my kind so I kept quiet. Thank you for clearing it up.

  • @snickersblah
    @snickersblah 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have never heard of any dish even close to something like this. Fascinating!

  • @Azaghal1988
    @Azaghal1988 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I always love when you do sweet dishes. When it comes to tasting you always light up the room (you can't hide that you're a sweettooth) and somehow the good vibes are infectious!^^

  • @JohnDoe-yq1sx
    @JohnDoe-yq1sx 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It looks a lot like jalebi from South Asia, idk if it was related to the Portuguese who maybe could have introduced this style to us but I would highly recommend you try that too. It's like a golden batter that fried in oil in a very similar style to those egg yolk noodles and then soaked in sugar syrup. You'll find it sold in pretty much any south Asian sweets shop but there are different styles depending on what country/region.

  • @littleblackcar
    @littleblackcar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You know it's good when Max's face lights up at the first bite.

  • @lilasnowflake5632
    @lilasnowflake5632 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i accidentally paused at 17:57 and the face of both what seemed like shock, horror, awe, wonder, fear. all at the same time sent me over off my chair laughing

  • @88divinegrace
    @88divinegrace 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'd like to learn more about Portuguese and Japanese interactions and recipes. Looking forward to the tempura episode and many more. Thank you for sharing.

  • @alef218
    @alef218 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Here in Brazil we eat fios de ovos in a sandwich. The recipe: Very soft bread, fios de ovos, smoked ham and cheese. It’s delicious!

  • @lorettashepherd.
    @lorettashepherd. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Great to see another awesome video Max! Happy Thanksgiving to you and Jose 🦃

  • @Solocrabber
    @Solocrabber 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The egginess comes from the yolk membrane. The Portuguese recipe of ovos moles which uses the exact same ingredients requires you to filter out the yolk membrane so that the egginess smell and taste is removed from the final product.

  • @lhfirex
    @lhfirex 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Only a few ingredients, so it sounds easy, but it turns out to have a difficulty curve with a technique you gotta learn? Oh yeah, that sounds like almost every Japanese recipe I've ever made.
    It's also fun history, considering I think Portuguese influence from this era is part of why Japan would later try to expand their influence to Brazil. And it's funny just thinking about how differently cattle were treated in this period of Japanese history compared to today. Back then, you don't want to have beef. Nowadays, it's the land of wagyu and Kobe beef, I think they might make as much beef jerky as any other industrialized nation, and they even have beef and wasabi flavored potato chips.
    Side note: those Wasabeef (that's the actual brand name!) chips are amazing and completely worth trying out sometime.

  • @Bluemilk92
    @Bluemilk92 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Imagine if you added a pinch of saffron... They'd be like highlighter yellow :D!

  • @caseyfulton8924
    @caseyfulton8924 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The structure and quality of the script written for this episode really stuck out for me. Looking back now I think it's been a frog in boiling water sort of thing but it only just now occurred to me how cohesive the writing has become for each episode, and on a weekly basis at at that!
    If you are ad libbing the history section off of a list of bullet points I would be even more astonished. Hats off

  • @UrbanPanic
    @UrbanPanic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    THE ALGORYTHM has been giving me a lot of Max Miller Videos. This is the one that made me subscribe.

  • @MKitchen75
    @MKitchen75 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Great video, as a chef and enthusiastic of history, especially japan history, fantastic video

  • @LeonardoMayDwarvenWay
    @LeonardoMayDwarvenWay 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    We have a similar dish here in Brazil called "cabelo de anjo", which means "angel's hair". It's often used on top of cakes and other sweets. Loved the video, as always!

    • @shadowsinmymind9
      @shadowsinmymind9 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      We have that too in Portugal and we do the same with the cakes

  • @Erik_Swiger
    @Erik_Swiger 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Max, you know what might be a great video idea is if you selected 5-10 courses that you would include in a feast. Any items from any period in history, that you think would make an awesome and eye-opening meal, with courses that you might find in a restaurant.

  • @raquelolegario6467
    @raquelolegario6467 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’m Brazilian and grew up with this treat for special occasions. The first time I made this in England, my friends thought it was pasta (or straw) 😊 Thanks Max for all your great videos!

  • @nicksteele9436
    @nicksteele9436 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    When I saw you picking the noodles up, I thought you'd like them! The contact between Europe and Japan is probably one of the more benign ones, and is very interesting to me.
    Just the video to watch after a tricky night shift!

  • @RonJohn63
    @RonJohn63 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    2:00 It's a culinary rule of thumb that "few ingredients means complex process".

  • @SrMikicas
    @SrMikicas 2 ปีที่แล้ว +98

    ¡Un saludo a nuestros hermanos Portuguéses desde España! obrigado por nos tolerar :D

    • @shadowsinmymind9
      @shadowsinmymind9 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ustedes tiene comida bueno tambien. Mi gusta de paella e tortillas de huevos. E mucho mas

    • @jujuba5487
      @jujuba5487 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nós gostamos de vocês! 😉 🇵🇹❤️🇪🇦

  • @Shizu_Kare
    @Shizu_Kare 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've been watching so many videos of yours lately I assume they're all older ones but the newest uploads always get mixed in without me even having to go to my subscriptions tab. I'm so impressed by how consistently great all your videos are as well as the upload frequency.
    Seeing all these recipes come to life, history and all, is really inspiring, and while I'm a college student living in a dorm with no real kitchen tools this channel is another reason I'm excited to start cooking for myself soon.

  • @AJScraps
    @AJScraps 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Japanese history and cuisine is extra cool! 🍜

  • @monpetitchouxpastry
    @monpetitchouxpastry ปีที่แล้ว

    I always really appreciate how well you pronounce words from other languages! It’s evident that you really respect the cultures you’re talking about. That extra amount of effort does not go unnoticed, and is so appreciated. Thank you

  • @loretta_3843
    @loretta_3843 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My dad had an uncle who originally was a missionary in China for about 10 years then moving to Japan where he was for about another 50 years. I met him when I visited Italy and he was visiting from Japan and I remember him talking about how different it was but he'd been living in Asia way longer than he'd lived in Italy - I hadn't thought of him in quite some time and you reminded me of him☺️ (I'm in Australia my parents are originally from Italy)