Been looking for an honest review, thank you. It is just about what I would expect, I don't off road, so it makes no sense for me, but I would at least trial run one. Still riding my mostly Chinese Benelli 600GT, it has been 8 years now.
Hello!! Excellent review! I have a question. How about thw vibrations. Does it travel at about 110-120 kph with ease? Do the vibrations are big issue at those speeds?
I've been riding CF Moto, Benelli, and Hyosung bikes whenever I am in our Asia offices (along with host of other Chinese scooters and RE bikes). They are good...better than ok. But you can tell the difference in feeling, perhaps the quality, if you put them against Honda, Kawasaki or BMW (but the engines are usually the same as KTM or BMW). If you are a person who switches bike every 1 or 2 years, its a good buy. HOWEVER, I would never trust its reliability in a long term trips - if you are going away for a long ride trip, I'd rather take a Japanese.
As you say most brands have models or parts made in China so what ever you think about China t's hard to avoid buying them. I do think CF moto are making some very nice bikes at great value and with 4 years warranty they obviously believe in their products. I think the Voge 300 is probably a better bet so long as you don't wish to do too much highway riding and it seems a good cheap option compared with the Honda 300 CRF.
I think Voge has made a nice bike with the 650 dsx. Yes its a Chinese brand and yes it will take some time.to get used at it. Wasn't that the same with Japanese bikes back in the days? China is expanding not only with bikes but also with cars. More manufacturers are making smaller ADV bikes with smaller engines, because not everyone can afford a BMW r1300GS. And of course it is ridiculous to use big bikes offroad. They are more like the modern day cafe racer then adventure bikes. It will be interesting in that category. Royal Enfield is introducing its new Himalayan 450 (smaller engine and less HP) KTM 390 adventure, Vstrom 800DE, Transalp 750. It will be fun again to go shop for a midsize ADV.
The bad translations really give you an insight into Chinese manufacturers' level of attention to detail. On buildable furniture it's funny. On a motorcycle you will be taking out on the road it's terrifying. They give absolutely no fucks. Race to the bottom economics is a terrible model for a machine that can kill you when it fails.
What is the opposite of "Swiss made"? LoL! With my already rusty Benelli 300 TNT from China I learned my bitter lessen. Hands off their crap! A Honda Engineer would rather commit harakiri before selling such a lousy piece of crap!
#heiner`s comments To my knowledge, the price of this bike is not 9500 EURO, but more in the area of 5900 Euro currently ! I`d be happy over clearification about that issue.
Been looking for an honest review, thank you. It is just about what I would expect, I don't off road, so it makes no sense for me, but I would at least trial run one. Still riding my mostly Chinese Benelli 600GT, it has been 8 years now.
Thanks for your reply! How is the Benelli holding up?
I have had issues, just small cheep parts, but overall, still good, still enjoy riding it.@@droommotor
It’s not where it’s made, but who makes it, which is more important.
I agree!
Hello!! Excellent review! I have a question. How about thw vibrations. Does it travel at about 110-120 kph with ease? Do the vibrations are big issue at those speeds?
It travels at that speed with ease. I don’t think the vibrations are a big issue
ready to buy one in China,thx for your test!❤
And thank you for your comment from so far away! Safe rides!
I've been riding CF Moto, Benelli, and Hyosung bikes whenever I am in our Asia offices (along with host of other Chinese scooters and RE bikes). They are good...better than ok. But you can tell the difference in feeling, perhaps the quality, if you put them against Honda, Kawasaki or BMW (but the engines are usually the same as KTM or BMW). If you are a person who switches bike every 1 or 2 years, its a good buy. HOWEVER, I would never trust its reliability in a long term trips - if you are going away for a long ride trip, I'd rather take a Japanese.
I completely agree!
As you say most brands have models or parts made in China so what ever you think about China t's hard to avoid buying them. I do think CF moto are making some very nice bikes at great value and with 4 years warranty they obviously believe in their products. I think the Voge 300 is probably a better bet so long as you don't wish to do too much highway riding and it seems a good cheap option compared with the Honda 300 CRF.
Yeah I agree. Would love to try a CFmoto one day
I think Voge has made a nice bike with the 650 dsx. Yes its a Chinese brand and yes it will take some time.to get used at it. Wasn't that the same with Japanese bikes back in the days? China is expanding not only with bikes but also with cars. More manufacturers are making smaller ADV bikes with smaller engines, because not everyone can afford a BMW r1300GS. And of course it is ridiculous to use big bikes offroad. They are more like the modern day cafe racer then adventure bikes. It will be interesting in that category. Royal Enfield is introducing its new Himalayan 450 (smaller engine and less HP) KTM 390 adventure, Vstrom 800DE, Transalp 750. It will be fun again to go shop for a midsize ADV.
it has a limited BMW 650 GS engine, that thing is hard and will last long.
I think the v strom and transalp are more midsize and the Himalayan is more a small size adv bike. I do like the latter very much.
What? The brake and the gear levers are adjustable. The brake adjustment is perfectly shown at 12:02 and all gear levers are adjustable
You are right sir! Thank you
How are the vibrations in high speeds?
They are acceptable
The bad translations really give you an insight into Chinese manufacturers' level of attention to detail. On buildable furniture it's funny. On a motorcycle you will be taking out on the road it's terrifying. They give absolutely no fucks. Race to the bottom economics is a terrible model for a machine that can kill you when it fails.
I understand what your saying here. I hope that the western legislators do take care when approving bikes in terms of safety.
The used prices on Vogue is terrible so as a used purchase I think there is value especially with luggage
Good to know thanks for your comment!
The vibrations are so har d with this bike I’ve lost all my teeth and the seat has cut me another hole.
hahaha
What is the opposite of "Swiss made"? LoL! With my already rusty Benelli 300 TNT from China I learned my bitter lessen. Hands off their crap! A Honda Engineer would rather commit harakiri before selling such a lousy piece of crap!
I hear you haha😎
#heiner`s comments
To my knowledge, the price of this bike is not 9500 EURO, but more in the area of 5900 Euro currently ! I`d be happy over clearification about that issue.
Depends on which country. This was the price in the Netherlands