We weren’t robbed. The Packers were “robbed” of a clean win which they fought for. Wish the refs could do better and wish KC would get their freaking offense working.
I'm a Packers fan and I have alot of love and respect for the Chiefs,Mahomes is the best QB in the NFL and he's been really good for the game,There's reasons that Scantling was released by the Packers he's very inconsistent,Alot of drops from Chiefs receivers,I honestly thought we had no chance on beating the Chiefs,If Mahomes had better receivers Packers would have lost, There were alot of bad calls like the late hit on Mahomes that gave them the opportunity to start throwing those deep balls that were PI's, I'm not confident that Scantling would have caught it uncontested,I like mahomes alot and we all know what he said at the press conference when he was asked about the hail Mary P.I.He doesn't make excuses and that's a true leader and why he's a 2 time superbowl champ,mad respect
@@TheKingOfKays also imo the pi was more fair than the roughing the passer, he was turned around and going for the ball the whole time, even if he did run into him early he wasn't looking at scantling he was looking at the ball you can at least make an argument anyhow. there's no way that hit should have been roughing he was in bounds that is his own fault.
I understand that there was no guarantee the chiefs score or get the 2 pt conversion just to tie but because that penalty not being called we will never know that’s the point. The might have got the td but failed on the 2 pt and still lost but how more exciting and or crushing would that have been.
Maybe the Chiefs should be thinking about what they did/didn't do during the first 59 minutes of the game instead of hoping the refs bail you out in the last minute!
Stopping the clock when M V-S was still in bounds running backward gave Chiefs about 10 secs extra. Tipped the scale out of balance to favor Chiefs. When you let Collinsworth control the narrative, the media is going to whine for the Chiefs.
Not enough being said about the blatant missed call when MVS was clearly being pulled backwards in bounds which should have resulted in the clock still running. Gave them a free timeout with that play.
Yea I think the game was fair. Bad calls on both ends. Kind of felt like the refs had to not throw the flag on the dpi or else the narrative is the refs favor KC
That non-PI was AWFUL... But so was the personal foul on the Mahomes hit which I believe was on that same drive. How about on the final drive with like 14 seconds left when they CLEARLY tackled the WR backwards going out of bounds which by rule keeps the clock running and would've all but ended the game right there but the refs stopped the clock when KC had no timeouts. Bad calls went both ways.
Irvin makes a fair point though about Valentine playing the ball. The refs also said after the game MVS wasn't restricted to making a fair play on the ball. Put this together, and you've a tall WR not contesting for a 50/50 ball. That's the correctable behavior. And with Mahome's comments after the game, he'd prefer MVS not get hustled for positioning. There's more contact in your average 50/50 ball in soccer.
Is it a coincidence that the Chiefs are not the same offensively after losing the guy everyone said wasn’t responsible for the offense? The same guy that has Sam Howell #2 in passing?
not a coincidence at all. chiefs fans like to act like it was all part of their plan to make their defense better. but in actuality they simply underestimated how valuable eric was as an oc
Watching the game as a Packers fan last night, either team that lost was going to be incensed with the refs because of how horrendous the calls were on both sides. I would have been hot if we lost after that unnecessary roughness call, so I can't blame Chiefs fans for being mad about what I'll call our "piggy-back" coverage on MVS not being called PI. However, I will point out that the Packers didn't trail for one second in this game🤷♂
Yeah legal hit. Not sure why they called that. Ohhhh wait its mahomes and the chiefs...Taylor swift was in attendance so the they had to try and keep KC in it lmao 🤣
Irvin and sherman the only analysts so far today that actually understand the reason for the no calls. Thank you for understanding the rules. Need more former players on these shows and less schmucks who don't understand
At full speed it clearly looks like the DB is playing the ball, even his actions are to go for the ball versus tackling MVS. I really like how actual players who played in the two positions are honestly giving their takes based on their HOF careers (Sherman will get in).
I thought Michael Irvin was way off on the earlier game SF Greenlaw roughness penalty and ejection. Even these guys get it wrong now and then. But I find Richard Sherman is much more objective and consistent.
Hats off to a heck of a Packers win! 👏👏 As a Chiefs fan, I'm starting to lose faith in our wide receivers. And I've really tried be patient with them. Looks like even the great man is hesitating on throws now cause of all their gd darn drops this season. At this stage I'd nearly be tempted to play pacheco as a wide receiver and let the offensive line carry him forward Philly style. Isiah ain't droppin no ball. Looked awesome when he/they did that tonight😮Raw power forward. Offensive football is rough n tumble this season. Pat Riley says the season after winning a championship is the hardest one to win. I still believe the Chiefs can defend it, but they need to perform emergency surgery on their receiver leakage/coverage problem.
The Chiefs are too good of a team to even have a late-game pass interference help them out. Green Bay had the lead the entire night, let's just give GB their flowers here. They beat a great team and they deserved it.
Tbh thats the folly of a great qb teams thing the qb can get it done no matter what. I dont get the logic outside of not wanting to spend money and a lazy gm. But … my packs won so im happy🤣
Well said. DeAndre Hopkins for me would have been the answer to losing JuJu. I much rather have a slower, sure-handed receiver than one that is a speedster, but bad hands.
Kinda sad that the Packers just pretty much straight up beat the Chiefs from start to finish and the whole conversation isnt about how good that offense and defense looked its about the god damn refs
Its pissing me off all day!! Smh I cant wait for Love to really be the franchise QB n get the same adoration as Rodgers. Theyve been on a roll! Why are we talking about the Cheifs 🙄
Love shouldn't have taken the sack...BUT, it ran 39 seconds off the clock. A throwaway pass would have stopped the clock and a field goal from that distance wouldn't be automatic either..
This is the thing, Carlson hasn’t been automatic this year, he’s missed some, but made more than he missed, but I agree, bad sack, but the extra 39 seconds off the clock proved to help
Chiefs shouldn't have even been in this situation since after the overturn of the fumble by Rashee Rice, by rule there needs to be a 10 second run off and the clock needs to continue rolling since he was caught in bounds and the Chiefs had no time outs. They basically got a free time out and a saving of seconds even before the two last throws.
I'm over nine minutes in and there hasn't been a single mention that the Green Bay Packers also played in this game. Edit: I am glad that Zaire Alexander received a shoutout, whoever that is.
I'm impressed and refreshed by seeing all these well thought out comments. Logic has escaped most controversies recently. It's nice to see logic reigning supreme.
He took the "sack he shouldn't have" because he didn't have an open receiver and KC was out of timeouts. That ran another 40 seconds off the clock. AND they made the field goal to go up by 8. If he throws the ball away yes, that would save a few yards but the clock stops which would have given Mahomes another 40 seconds to score. The sack was a very mature play. Well done Jordan Love.
@@JJ4848 well most people disagree with you. and you either want them to make all the right calls or not, you cant just cherry pick when you want them to make calls and miss calls.
@@jpasek4 yep whatever I’m fine with them not making that call, but they did. The pass interference was terrible though. I can see why they made the call because he was giving himself up and running to the sideline. While he was technically inbound he was a step from going out and he was clearly going out. Plus their helmets hit after the collision which is probably why it was called. And on fourth and one earlier in the game they missed a clear face mask on one of the Chiefs defensive lineman. It’s getting to the point that the games are becoming unwatchable.
Pat Mcafee brought up a great point earlier this season. How tf does the NFL not have full-time refs!? This isnt jv football, this is professional football. The NFL is a multi-million if not Billion $ Organization and they cant afford to have full-time refs!? Ridiculous
That PI was egregious imo as a Packers fan but ALSO the Mahomes hit on the sideline that grew a flag was insanely bogus! And the wr being pulled inbounds to stop forward progress went in their favor as well. Another 10 seconds off the clock. The refs sucked this entire 4th quarter!
If it wasn't for that bad call on 'Unnecessary roughness' they wouldn't even have a chance for that last play anyhow. An eye for eye. Take the L move on!!
I honestly prefer this version of Skip, I always thought that he was just going with the craziest most disrespectful takes for ratings but on this show with Richard and Michael he seems quite reasonable and they know their stuff
they didn't get robbed because the only reason mahomes was in the position to make that throw was because of the bs late hit call on mahomes right before that throw.
“You can’t just keep on getting rid of us guys with real talent and think you gone keep fitting anybody in and that you’re gonna stay on the top of the mountain”
Bad calls in the 4th didnt start at the mahomes out of bounds hit. It started with the packers 3rd down pass that was incomplete with obvious PI but the refs ruled the ball was not catchable. The KC back damn near tackeld him, should have been PI but they punt. KC then got a huge chunk play on a PI call where the defender for GB held the guys arm. Even though the pass was a good 2-3 feet higher than the PI that wasnt called because the GB wr "couldnt catch" it. Then there was the mahomes late hit. Then they didnt run the clock like they were supposed to after the fumble was overturned. Then they stopped the clock when mvs went out of bounds 3 yards back from where he was contacted clearly going out of bounds backward. Then there was the non PI call for mvs...... chiefs fans want to complain about one no call but wont speak on the 5 bs calls that went in their favor to not only give them the ball back as gb was driving to put the game away, but kept their final drive alive.
Tyreek is obviously a massive loss, but the reason they’ve gone from Super Bowl champions to struggling is because of the loss of Eric Bienemy. They’re trying to shoehorn Tyreek as the missing piece, only thing different from last year is no Eric and no JuJu. And it wasn’t JuJu that drove that offence.
They're one game out of the number 1 seed. They are going to make the playoffs easily and if they beat Buffalo this Sunday they have the easiest path to the number 1 seed of any other AFC team.
Michael Ervin talking about ref bias 😂😂😂😂 Man got his jersey lightly brushed on a 50 yard out route - missed the catch - refs threw that flag so fast - and he still cried and threw a tantrum. And that was against Green Bay - who never, ever got the benefit of a ref call against Dallas from 1991-1996. So spare me.
Chiefs fans needed to get humbled, they always get a last second penalty that usually saves them most of the time, go and watch their games it’s ridiculous how much the refs want the chiefs to win
The bad calls went both ways, and it was a wash. Neither team really got a better deal out of it. Love and Co put on a phenomenal performance. The future is bright for the Pack.
It's a 50/50 ball with Valentine completely playing for the ball. MVS made a poor effort to contest the catch. We should be applauding defenders for this type of play, not pining for flags.
I've never liked the no-call on hail mary, it's ridiculous that any other time in the game they're calling PI, but for that play and situation they don't. The inconsistency is what fans get upset about.
I don't watch Undisputed anymore but I was curious how they'd cover the Packers. They basically waited 10 minutes to mention the team and QB who won to focus on bad calls? I see I'm not missing much.
Aaron wasn’t fantastic his first season either as long as he keeps slowing improving I think he might be pretty darn good. I also see a lot of Aaron in love with those back foot throws
Difference between Jordan Love and Mahomes: one walked into the greatest system of all time with tyreek and kelce and GOAT Reid and got carried by refs. The other walked into a situation where Rodgers looked like Jamarcus Russell in his last year and didn’t want to work with the receivers bc they were so trash. Right now they are tied in every stat. Yet they tryna say this dude mahomes is the best ever and blaming EVERYBODY BUT HIM😂😂😂. There’s levels to this. As an expensive backpack down in golden state would say “You ain’t Brady. You not on that level. You thought you was gettin that kinda love huh?” FOH
The chiefs weren’t even playing for the win. They were playing to tie it and go to OT. Even IF they get that DPI, who says they somehow get in the endzone with no timeouts and 30secs on the clock and THEN get the 2point conversion? And THEN proceed to outplay the packers who were outplaying THEM the entire game? The pro-chiefs narrative is crazy, can’t accept the fact that they simply lost fair and square.
Many in media can't stand giving Packers credit for the win, so they're trying their best to taint the Packers effort. Thank You Bayless, Sherman and Irvin for a sensible clear-minded discussion.
Wow, michael irving and richard sherman have become two of the best analysts. PI would've been the easy call, but you look at MVS and Valentine, and tell me which one looks more like he's playing for the ball? Body language matters.
Pacheco punched a Packers player- No call. Then 2 BS calls on the Packers, a Terrible pass inf call that wasn't pass inf. Then a legal hit on Mahomes. Lol that was 3 opportunities right there that set the Chiefs up to win. Sick of hearing this BS, Packers & Love flat out played the Chiefs and earned that Win!
If anything goes shoving Kelce in the end zone on the last play so he cant catch the football.. Then the offensive receivers in the end zone, Should Tackle the Defensive backs and while the dbs are on the ground the offensive receivers catch the ball.
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We weren’t robbed. The Packers were “robbed” of a clean win which they fought for. Wish the refs could do better and wish KC would get their freaking offense working.
Preach man!! The refs have been atrocious In damn near every game all freaking year. So frustrating
The most realist comment i seen since the game🦾💯
The only people bitchin is not from either team. It was an exciting game till it ended. Hard fought from both teams.
I'm a Packers fan and I have alot of love and respect for the Chiefs,Mahomes is the best QB in the NFL and he's been really good for the game,There's reasons that Scantling was released by the Packers he's very inconsistent,Alot of drops from Chiefs receivers,I honestly thought we had no chance on beating the Chiefs,If Mahomes had better receivers Packers would have lost, There were alot of bad calls like the late hit on Mahomes that gave them the opportunity to start throwing those deep balls that were PI's, I'm not confident that Scantling would have caught it uncontested,I like mahomes alot and we all know what he said at the press conference when he was asked about the hail Mary P.I.He doesn't make excuses and that's a true leader and why he's a 2 time superbowl champ,mad respect
I'm a packers fan and respect the chiefs but I've seen a ALOT of chiefs fans complaining. But there was bad calls and bad no calls on both teams
Why are people acting like KC wins if they get the PI? they still had to score and go for 2 TO TIE THE GAME.... LMAO
They think the packers are a bad team and can’t imagine the packers beating the Chiefs. It’s delusional thinking
@@TheKingOfKays also imo the pi was more fair than the roughing the passer, he was turned around and going for the ball the whole time, even if he did run into him early he wasn't looking at scantling he was looking at the ball you can at least make an argument anyhow. there's no way that hit should have been roughing he was in bounds that is his own fault.
I understand that there was no guarantee the chiefs score or get the 2 pt conversion just to tie but because that penalty not being called we will never know that’s the point. The might have got the td but failed on the 2 pt and still lost but how more exciting and or crushing would that have been.
@@mpcrelaxmusichad they not called unnecessary roughness, that play with the Pi never happens 🤷🏻♂️
Maybe the Chiefs should be thinking about what they did/didn't do during the first 59 minutes of the game instead of hoping the refs bail you out in the last minute!
Whoever watched that whole game last night knows Jordan love made some insane throws
Btw he outplayed mahomes by a long shot but nobody wants to talk about it/ give credit
@@UhavelowiqNo Lies Told
its okay.. let everyone keep sleeping on the packers and Love@@Uhavelowiq
That 4&1 to doubs was elite
Yeah the PI was a missed called, but the unnecessary roughness on Patrick Mahomes was a bad call as well, so I’d say it was a balance.
pacheco knocked that 15 yards we got off the next play and ejected
@@porterosborne1141yeah but that was only good call out of the 3 lmao. 100% on him, not the refs.
Yeah Mahomes was clearly inbounds and was very clearly trying to get more yards, he definitely wasn't just trying to run out of bounds
Stopping the clock when M V-S was still in bounds running backward gave Chiefs about 10 secs extra. Tipped the scale out of balance to favor Chiefs. When you let Collinsworth control the narrative, the media is going to whine for the Chiefs.
And the previous pi call the Chiefs received.
NFL wanna fine Richard Sherman so bad for calling out the refs💀💀
Yoooooooooo!!! You already know they do 😂
They itching that bad is insane 😂😂 something is up frl
Yoooooooooooooo 🤣
I don’t think Sherm is built for this show, but he’s pretty good at football analysis.
@@derekrau8236any person who tells the truth isnt built for this show you cant tell the truth in a world full of lies
Not enough being said about the blatant missed call when MVS was clearly being pulled backwards in bounds which should have resulted in the clock still running. Gave them a free timeout with that play.
Yea I think the game was fair. Bad calls on both ends. Kind of felt like the refs had to not throw the flag on the dpi or else the narrative is the refs favor KC
THere was also a failure to enforce a 10 second run off after the call back of the fumble.
And about 10 Seconds extra on the game clock. The announcers here are making a lot of sense.
That non-PI was AWFUL... But so was the personal foul on the Mahomes hit which I believe was on that same drive. How about on the final drive with like 14 seconds left when they CLEARLY tackled the WR backwards going out of bounds which by rule keeps the clock running and would've all but ended the game right there but the refs stopped the clock when KC had no timeouts. Bad calls went both ways.
Yup. It was all obv. They gave the KC all the stops and they still lost so nah
Irvin makes a fair point though about Valentine playing the ball. The refs also said after the game MVS wasn't restricted to making a fair play on the ball. Put this together, and you've a tall WR not contesting for a 50/50 ball. That's the correctable behavior. And with Mahome's comments after the game, he'd prefer MVS not get hustled for positioning. There's more contact in your average 50/50 ball in soccer.
That personal foul was the play right before the Pi. Had that call not happened, that PI play wouldn't happen either
Is it a coincidence that the Chiefs are not the same offensively after losing the guy everyone said wasn’t responsible for the offense? The same guy that has Sam Howell #2 in passing?
Do you mean the Chiefs winning the Superbowl without Hill?
not a coincidence at all. chiefs fans like to act like it was all part of their plan to make their defense better. but in actuality they simply underestimated how valuable eric was as an oc
@@edwinayuso2358 you don't have reading comprehension.
@@edwinayuso2358hes not talking about tyreek hill
In his last 3 games, Sam Howell has 1 passing TD, 5 INTs…passing yards isn’t everything especially when you lose by 30 every game
Watching the game as a Packers fan last night, either team that lost was going to be incensed with the refs because of how horrendous the calls were on both sides. I would have been hot if we lost after that unnecessary roughness call, so I can't blame Chiefs fans for being mad about what I'll call our "piggy-back" coverage on MVS not being called PI. However, I will point out that the Packers didn't trail for one second in this game🤷♂
Also they needed a 2 point conversion just to take it to overtime.
@@paulgremminger3510 Exactly
He was in bounds when he got popped on the sideline.
The media is going to brush over that though cause it’s the Chiefs.
And shoulder to shoulder.
Yeah legal hit. Not sure why they called that. Ohhhh wait its mahomes and the chiefs...Taylor swift was in attendance so the they had to try and keep KC in it lmao 🤣
Billions of Swifty fans disagree with you 100%
@@terryfredrick5149yep cause the moment u pass that line of scrimmage you’re fair game unless you’re mahomes apparently 😂
Irvin and sherman the only analysts so far today that actually understand the reason for the no calls. Thank you for understanding the rules. Need more former players on these shows and less schmucks who don't understand
At full speed it clearly looks like the DB is playing the ball, even his actions are to go for the ball versus tackling MVS. I really like how actual players who played in the two positions are honestly giving their takes based on their HOF careers (Sherman will get in).
I thought Michael Irvin was way off on the earlier game SF Greenlaw roughness penalty and ejection. Even these guys get it wrong now and then. But I find Richard Sherman is much more objective and consistent.
Jordan love the real deal
He probably wasn’t catching it anyway 😂😂😂
Lmao!! 😂 great line by Sherman
He wasn't lying 😂😂
As a Packers fan, he’s right
"The ref's have been terrible all season" Understatement of the year.
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You are correct 💯💯💯
Hats off to a heck of a Packers win! 👏👏
As a Chiefs fan, I'm starting to lose faith in our wide receivers. And I've really tried be patient with them. Looks like even the great man is hesitating on throws now cause of all their gd darn drops this season. At this stage I'd nearly be tempted to play pacheco as a wide receiver and let the offensive line carry him forward Philly style. Isiah ain't droppin no ball. Looked awesome when he/they did that tonight😮Raw power forward. Offensive football is rough n tumble this season. Pat Riley says the season after winning a championship is the hardest one to win. I still believe the Chiefs can defend it, but they need to perform emergency surgery on their receiver leakage/coverage problem.
Packers fans already had lost faith in MVS so they understand your pain
The Chiefs are too good of a team to even have a late-game pass interference help them out. Green Bay had the lead the entire night, let's just give GB their flowers here. They beat a great team and they deserved it.
You know how many times a late game ending or talk won the game for the chiefs ?
@Saltyjordy Exactly
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they’re not missing tyreek, they never replaced what juju did for them last year
Thank You, weird they say it out their own mouth, but then proceed to bring up Tyreek... Can someone say narrative
Tbh thats the folly of a great qb teams thing the qb can get it done no matter what. I dont get the logic outside of not wanting to spend money and a lazy gm. But … my packs won so im happy🤣
Well said.
DeAndre Hopkins for me would have been the answer to losing JuJu.
I much rather have a slower, sure-handed receiver than one that is a speedster, but bad hands.
Lol juju ain’t that good
@@Ken-zh2brHe’s way better than what they got right now and it shows.
He Wasn’t Gon Catch It Anyway Is Crayz 🤣
Is it? 😂😂😂
Kinda sad that the Packers just pretty much straight up beat the Chiefs from start to finish and the whole conversation isnt about how good that offense and defense looked its about the god damn refs
Its pissing me off all day!! Smh I cant wait for Love to really be the franchise QB n get the same adoration as Rodgers. Theyve been on a roll! Why are we talking about the Cheifs 🙄
Love shouldn't have taken the sack...BUT, it ran 39 seconds off the clock. A throwaway pass would have stopped the clock and a field goal from that distance wouldn't be automatic either..
This is the thing, Carlson hasn’t been automatic this year, he’s missed some, but made more than he missed, but I agree, bad sack, but the extra 39 seconds off the clock proved to help
I think they should’ve just ran the ball there
Chiefs shouldn't have even been in this situation since after the overturn of the fumble by Rashee Rice, by rule there needs to be a 10 second run off and the clock needs to continue rolling since he was caught in bounds and the Chiefs had no time outs. They basically got a free time out and a saving of seconds even before the two last throws.
Not to mention, MVS went out of bounds backwards which by rule should’ve kept a running clock
Just remember the 'FAIL MARY' in Seattle when PI was not called against Seattle..... That game ended the Referee strike. PI on Hail Mary is common.
Errr...that wasn't a PI. It was an interception by the Packers that they gave a TD to the Seahawks.
@@sliceofmymindno it was Tate pushed shields before the ball was intercepted by Jennings
I'm over nine minutes in and there hasn't been a single mention that the Green Bay Packers also played in this game.
Edit: I am glad that Zaire Alexander received a shoutout, whoever that is.
KC should of traded for a Vet WR. Kelce is not the same player. Maybe they kept the wrong guy cus Hill is killing it in MIA.
They double team Kelce because they got no receivers
I'm impressed and refreshed by seeing all these well thought out comments. Logic has escaped most controversies recently. It's nice to see logic reigning supreme.
Well, not having Tyreek Hill is coming back to bite them. I'm not saying they need him, but they need him, lol. I hope Mia goes to the dance this year
They didn't get robbed, their fans just cry harder.
Taylor is gonna write a song about the refs 😂
@@CorePathway lol.
Time for Taylor to move on to Jordan and make a true Love Story
Wow. Just wow.
He took the "sack he shouldn't have" because he didn't have an open receiver and KC was out of timeouts. That ran another 40 seconds off the clock. AND they made the field goal to go up by 8. If he throws the ball away yes, that would save a few yards but the clock stops which would have given Mahomes another 40 seconds to score. The sack was a very mature play. Well done Jordan Love.
Sherman is hilarious...love him being honest
Even if they get the PI call, they still have to score and they were down 8, so best case is a tie game after a 2pt conversion.
Then they go to overtime and get a fair chance
@@JJ4848 maybe, or maybe they never even run that play if they don't get a bogus late hit call on mahomes and then it doesn't even matter
@@jpasek4 it wasn’t a late call it was unnecessary roughness. That call is iffy, I don’t think it was as egregious as the missed pass interference.
@@JJ4848 well most people disagree with you. and you either want them to make all the right calls or not, you cant just cherry pick when you want them to make calls and miss calls.
@@jpasek4 yep whatever I’m fine with them not making that call, but they did. The pass interference was terrible though. I can see why they made the call because he was giving himself up and running to the sideline. While he was technically inbound he was a step from going out and he was clearly going out. Plus their helmets hit after the collision which is probably why it was called. And on fourth and one earlier in the game they missed a clear face mask on one of the Chiefs defensive lineman. It’s getting to the point that the games are becoming unwatchable.
Pat Mcafee brought up a great point earlier this season. How tf does the NFL not have full-time refs!? This isnt jv football, this is professional football. The NFL is a multi-million if not Billion $ Organization and they cant afford to have full-time refs!? Ridiculous
Not having actual refs means Goodell has a way out while he manipulates the season.
“They’re probably thinking well we just saw Valdez Scantling drop the ball last week he probably wasn’t catching it anyway”
What a crazy world, i agree with Richard Sherman....Pack since 65 baby !!!!
Good takes by Richard here
That PI was egregious imo as a Packers fan but ALSO the Mahomes hit on the sideline that grew a flag was insanely bogus! And the wr being pulled inbounds to stop forward progress went in their favor as well. Another 10 seconds off the clock. The refs sucked this entire 4th quarter!
They miss Tyreek and Eric Bienemy… not to mention, Kelce has 1 foot out the door
You really think Kelce is going to leave ? Lol stop it
He has talked
about retirement, not
Leaving the chiefs
@@xzero7378which equals leaving the chiefs. If he retires, he’s gone from the team
Remember when you would see Mahomes and Kelce rally the team when they were down??? I can't remember seeing that at all this season.
What year was Kelce drafted?
If it wasn't for that bad call on 'Unnecessary roughness' they wouldn't even have a chance for that last play anyhow. An eye for eye. Take the L move on!!
Can someone explain why there was no ten second runoff after the fumble/incompletion review? Instead 10 seconds got added
No
Because they kept the clock running when the fumble happened, and they had to add that time back when it was reviewed he was down at contact
No matter how many times i hear "the ball was ruled uncatchable due to the reciever being MVS" it never gets less funny.
Bad calls both ways I don't wanna hear it lol. Great Win!
Totally agree
“The same thing that can make you laugh it will make you cry”
“Anything goes in a Hail Mary, you can’t tackle anybody, but pushing and shoving is what they’re gonna allow you to get away with”
Jordan Love and Nico Collin’s for Puka , bro thought he finessed me Jordan Love is a beast
I’ve said it once and I’ll say it again. Who the chiefs really miss is Eric Bienemy
Or Tyreek Hill.
@jamesnelson5618 Because they won a SB without Hill I think that ship sailed. Without the OC they actually look really different.
I respect Sherman for mentioning the RTP that should never have been called, too many people ignoring that to claim robbery on the PI no call.
skip is extra happy today with the eagles winning
I honestly prefer this version of Skip, I always thought that he was just going with the craziest most disrespectful takes for ratings but on this show with Richard and Michael he seems quite reasonable and they know their stuff
Did Skip call Jaire Alexander Zaire Zander?!?! 🤣🤣🤣
they didn't get robbed because the only reason mahomes was in the position to make that throw was because of the bs late hit call on mahomes right before that throw.
no green bay won and that!
“You can’t just keep on getting rid of us guys with real talent and think you gone keep fitting anybody in and that you’re gonna stay on the top of the mountain”
Rob Parker’s is gonna feast on this topic tonight 😂😂
Bad calls in the 4th didnt start at the mahomes out of bounds hit. It started with the packers 3rd down pass that was incomplete with obvious PI but the refs ruled the ball was not catchable. The KC back damn near tackeld him, should have been PI but they punt. KC then got a huge chunk play on a PI call where the defender for GB held the guys arm. Even though the pass was a good 2-3 feet higher than the PI that wasnt called because the GB wr "couldnt catch" it. Then there was the mahomes late hit. Then they didnt run the clock like they were supposed to after the fumble was overturned. Then they stopped the clock when mvs went out of bounds 3 yards back from where he was contacted clearly going out of bounds backward. Then there was the non PI call for mvs...... chiefs fans want to complain about one no call but wont speak on the 5 bs calls that went in their favor to not only give them the ball back as gb was driving to put the game away, but kept their final drive alive.
Tyreek is obviously a massive loss, but the reason they’ve gone from Super Bowl champions to struggling is because of the loss of Eric Bienemy. They’re trying to shoehorn Tyreek as the missing piece, only thing different from last year is no Eric and no JuJu. And it wasn’t JuJu that drove that offence.
Missed calls on both sides. But there was only INTs on one side 👀
Sherman is stepping into gold status moving up
The Queefs have received so much help from the refs for so many years, they have no standing to cry about it.
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Ok, they won a Superbowl without Tyreek. But without Eric Bieniemy, they might not make the playoffs this year.
They're one game out of the number 1 seed. They are going to make the playoffs easily and if they beat Buffalo this Sunday they have the easiest path to the number 1 seed of any other AFC team.
That front 4 of the Packers is top tier Smith Clark Gary
Sherm went in on MVS 😂😂
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They’ve won a Super Bowl without Tyreek, they haven’t won a super bowl without Bienemy.
Neither have the Redskins
If you have to throw Hail Marys to win games. You shouldn't get penalties on little pushes to win a game
Michael Ervin talking about ref bias 😂😂😂😂
Man got his jersey lightly brushed on a 50 yard out route - missed the catch - refs threw that flag so fast - and he still cried and threw a tantrum.
And that was against Green Bay - who never, ever got the benefit of a ref call against Dallas from 1991-1996.
So spare me.
The MVS swipe by Sherman was brilliant
Chiefs fans needed to get humbled, they always get a last second penalty that usually saves them most of the time, go and watch their games it’s ridiculous how much the refs want the chiefs to win
Irvin was the best ever at the contested catch
Oh please how many times have the refs given the chiefs favorable calls because I literally lost count. I don’t want to hear it
“It’s no guarantee y’all win that game y’all were down 8”
The bad calls went both ways, and it was a wash. Neither team really got a better deal out of it. Love and Co put on a phenomenal performance. The future is bright for the Pack.
Everyone’s acting like make-up calls don’t exist.
MVS didn't play the ball well in the air, something Packers fans are well aware of. He stopped short and the corner ran into/over him.
It's a 50/50 ball with Valentine completely playing for the ball. MVS made a poor effort to contest the catch. We should be applauding defenders for this type of play, not pining for flags.
MVS is hot garbage man. Daylight robbery with that clown. Worthless. I dunno why he even is a WR. He’s worthless
Thank you for finally giving Green Bay there props and not giving all the credit to the crying Chiefs.
As a lions fan this makes the thanksgiving game loss to Packers hurt less
we still own you
@@Shuayb_Muhammad whos we? Cap
Sorry but if there's no backlash for the last 2 Super Bowls that were handed literally by the refs, don't start it now.
Bro ppl forget the fumble that should have stayed and the roughing penalty that gave them an extra 15 yards that same drive.
You are stupid if you think that fumble you was a fumble
As a packer fan his cheek was on the ground during the fumble it was close but I saw enough evidence to overture it
Lmaoo the fumble should not have stayed buddy use ur eyes 🤣🤣
That wasn’t a fumble😂😂
“The unnecessary roughness wasn’t unnecessary roughness”
It clearly was necessary roughness.
Taylor swift aint coming back
Man Green Bay had bad calls against them as well . Green Bay just balled out.
I've never liked the no-call on hail mary, it's ridiculous that any other time in the game they're calling PI, but for that play and situation they don't. The inconsistency is what fans get upset about.
I don't watch Undisputed anymore but I was curious how they'd cover the Packers. They basically waited 10 minutes to mention the team and QB who won to focus on bad calls? I see I'm not missing much.
I agree with the Richard Sherman. Did you not get Rob didn’t play good
“The chiefs they didn’t play well enough to win this game offensively”
“Jordan by the week looks more like a franchise quarterback”
Aaron wasn’t fantastic his first season either as long as he keeps slowing improving I think he might be pretty darn good. I also see a lot of Aaron in love with those back foot throws
The female ref who called the guy obs was the worst
Difference between Jordan Love and Mahomes: one walked into the greatest system of all time with tyreek and kelce and GOAT Reid and got carried by refs. The other walked into a situation where Rodgers looked like Jamarcus Russell in his last year and didn’t want to work with the receivers bc they were so trash. Right now they are tied in every stat. Yet they tryna say this dude mahomes is the best ever and blaming EVERYBODY BUT HIM😂😂😂. There’s levels to this. As an expensive backpack down in golden state would say “You ain’t Brady. You not on that level. You thought you was gettin that kinda love huh?” FOH
The chiefs weren’t even playing for the win. They were playing to tie it and go to OT. Even IF they get that DPI, who says they somehow get in the endzone with no timeouts and 30secs on the clock and THEN get the 2point conversion? And THEN proceed to outplay the packers who were outplaying THEM the entire game? The pro-chiefs narrative is crazy, can’t accept the fact that they simply lost fair and square.
Did irvin just say theres ppl with suits sitting in a room making decisions on the game?
Many in media can't stand giving Packers credit for the win, so they're trying their best to taint the Packers effort. Thank You Bayless, Sherman and Irvin for a sensible clear-minded discussion.
Wow, michael irving and richard sherman have become two of the best analysts. PI would've been the easy call, but you look at MVS and Valentine, and tell me which one looks more like he's playing for the ball? Body language matters.
I love Mahomes and the Chiefs, but I find myself rooting against them since they have two Super Bowls.
Why is no one talking about the miscall with the unnecessary roughness against Mahomes?
Pacheco punched a Packers player- No call. Then 2 BS calls on the Packers, a Terrible pass inf call that wasn't pass inf. Then a legal hit on Mahomes. Lol that was 3 opportunities right there that set the Chiefs up to win. Sick of hearing this BS, Packers & Love flat out played the Chiefs and earned that Win!
Jordan Love reminds me of Jay Cutler.
“Since week 7, he’s only 2nd to Dak Prescott in touchdowns”
I know skip was waiting on this 😂
You missed the illegal hands to the face on the Packers 4th down conversion. There were several other blown calls.
Why is it all about the “Chiefs didn’t play well enough” and the refs and not about how good the Packers played???
If anything goes shoving Kelce in the end zone on the last play so he cant catch the football..
Then the offensive receivers in the end zone, Should Tackle the Defensive backs and while the dbs are on the ground the offensive receivers catch the ball.