To be honest, a crossover with the decepticons and autobots fighting alongside the federation and romulans would be really fun. Yes, I know there's a comic that's based off the G1 cartoon and TAS, but I was thinking a little more modern.
Well... the big flaming issues are about choice that did eventually become blood but did not remove choice... so the Decepticon comparison is a really fun and fair one.
You know, I hadn’t considered the possibility of bioweapons being a reason for the Federation’s ban on genetic engineering. I always associated the ban with the Eugenics Wars and the danger of genetically modified super-beings such as the human augments.
It was originally a response to the Augments, this would've solidified the rationale behind it but for different reasons: the Augments were, in a way, self inflicted whereas the mutagenic weapon was deployed by one species against another.
There's a, presumably, obscure Dominion War book series where the Enterprise-E discovers a Dominion attempt to bypass the mined Bajoran wormhole by creating an artificial wormhole. Now, THAT would've been something I'd have loved to see on the screen.
I read that book years ago, but the artificial wormhole is more of a sideplot in the first quarter of the book. memory-beta.fandom.com/wiki/The_Battle_of_Betazed
@@michaelesposito2629 Here on TH-cam, whenever anybody mentions what the Enterprise-E was doing the Dominion War, it's never brought up. Nor is her participation in the Liberation of Betazed, the attempt to breach the Galactic Barrier, or her participation in counterattacking the Breen as they assaulted Earth. Those are in books, but all are quite old (older than TH-cam, and by a fair margin in some cases) so, perhaps they've slipped off the radar.
The show enterprise was cool but it literally violated every piece of star trek history pertaining to the original series. Enterprise is actually an ultimate universe of the twenty second century, that's why everything is different.
I'm glad Enterprise was cancelled or Rick Berman and Brannon Braga would have ruined the Earth-Romulan War arc. There should not be any "phase cannons" or pre-photon torpedoes in this setting. The setting and weapons should be more like The Expanse series.
1:50 ; It appears the the U.S.S. Enterprise has a similar role to that of the UNSC Infinity from Halo or Air Force One of the USAF. She is both simultaneously the Flagship of the combined fleets and functions (like the Hyperion Ark from Mass Effect or the Battlestar Galactica) the last best hope for Humanity containing the best and brightest in case of the worse. So that even if Earth was to fall, a beacon of hope would still live on, with the potential to one day return and reclaim.
As to Galorndon Core it didn't just have 'some' dillithium. The planet had immense stockpiles of resources, particularly dillithium. That is why the kamekaze attack was able to cause so much damage.
Surprised you didn't bring up Star Trek: Insurrection for back up for what the E was doing during the Dominion War. That film takes place during the War (or right before it) with the Enterprise putting out "Diplomatic Brushfires" for the fleet which was busy with the Dominion and the film mentioned that Son'a were suspected as secretly producing ketracel-whitesome for the Dominion.
@@AT2Productions the movie takes place during late in the war going by diolog and the fact after the war worf left ds9 to be a federation ambassador to the klingon homeworld and in the film he was still stationed on ds9 and the reson he was able to visit the enterprise was cause he was at a federation colony on manzar to establish a new defence perimeter aganst the dominion which the events of the movie would fit between the ds9 episodes it's only a paper moon and field of fire
@@Michellejosph because Trek has been perfect in dialog consistency, wait, how many decks does the Enterprise-E have again? Let's take a look at what was said on-screen. From Riker before the banquet: "The diplomatic corps is busy with Dominion negotiations." Hmmm ... negotiations are a post-war task, post surrender and pre-treaty. Or how about this, again from Riker when researching the Son'a: "Look at this. The Son'a are known to have produced vast quantities of the narcotic ketracel-white." Produced, past tense. Even in DS9 they didn't show every single second from the end of fighting, the surrender, through the negotiations to follow, but only the signing of something at DS9. That very well may have been similar to the signing of the Japanese surrender aboard the USS Missouri in Tokyo Bay, as we don't know what document that is, it could be just the surrender instead of the peace treaty. Not everything we see in a Trek episode is inherently sequential and immediate, so Worf could have had time before or after that signing event and his departure to be the new Ambassador to Qo'noS.
@@AT2Productions Insurrection seemed to have taken place during the Dominion War. Possibly around the time of DS9 ep Statistical Probabilities, when there were negotiations happening with the Dominion. @Certifiably Ingame You could have mentioned the Dominion War book series. 4 book mini series. 2 DS9 (novelizations of the first 6 eps of season 6) and 2 TNG, showing what the Enterprise E was up to during that part of the war.
You should read them. It's a fairly well written telling that explains much of the 'legendary' history and gives a much better ending for ENT than what we were given.
The detail about ships needing to be refit with analog interfaces is such a nice tie in to explain why the interiors of ships look dated from the newer shows to TOS
Star Trek Insurrection mentions that the Enterprise-E was busy putting out diplomatic brush fires as the majority of the Federation Diplomatic Corps were busy with Dominion negotiations.
I feel like a craft moving at several times the speed of light would do a a bit more damage than the equivalent of a large asteroid impact. Wouldn’t such unimaginable amounts of kinetic energy at best turn the entire surface molten and at worst blow a giant chunk out of the planet or even blast into pieces entirely?
Videos to add to this series? Do videos on the early ship classes of the era, one video for Starfleet's, one for the Klingons, one for the Romulans, one for the Vulcans, one for the Xindi. You get the idea.
You explain it so much better than the novels themselves did! "The Romulan War" series of "Star Trek: Enterprise" novels were very poorly written, despite containing some interesting ideas. But the problem was there was basically NO WAR in a series of novels about a war. You were basically reading hundreds of pages of an "after-action report," and every now and then our main heroes (the Enterprise crew) would made a cameo appearance, talking about how much that battle sucked--after it had already taken place--and, damn, they were depressed about it. And...well, we just had to take their word for it.
Hey Rick is I know you Mainly do videos on star trek but is there any chance you could possibly do a series of videos on the Babylon 5 novels and short stories since not a lot of people know about them and I think they should because unlike other Non televised media Based around a scifi franchise pretty much all the stories are Canon
Truly sucks what happened to the series. We got a bad Ranger spin off but never the telepath war or dark war. Just good story telling and solid work all around.
I find it funny that NX class is the only class of ship not named after the first one built. By all rights this should be Enterprise Class. The Enterprise NCC-1701 class of ship was a Constitution class the design being named after the USS Constitution NCC-1700 because it was the first one built. The Enterprise NCC-1701-D was a Galaxy class named after the first ship of the line USS Galaxy NCC-70637. SInce in the show they kept calling it the first warp 5 ship meaning it was the first one built so it should be the Enterprise Class not the NX Class
My headcanon for resolving this is that ship classes weren't named until after the establishment of the Federation. So for instance, what we know as the Daedalus-class would have been called something like an "NC-class" at the time, with a registry prefix of NC-xx; the Intrepid-type would be an "ND-class" with an ND-xx registry; etcetera. Once the UESPA became the Federation Starfleet, they revised the classification and registration system to what we're familiar with.
You're especially right, since NX is used for experimental ships from that point on. (The first Defiant is an NX registry ship.) Clearly they meant to do that when they started Enterprise, then forgot when they made the second ship of that design NX-02, when it should have been NCC.
@@d.b.4671 NCC isn't a class, it's an acronym for Naval Construction Contract. (Though there is contradiction on that.) That's why every ship that isn't experimental (Naval eXperiment) is NCC.
@@Swiftbow - I didn't say it was. I'm saying that (again, according to my headcanon) the NCC/NX/NAR system didn't exist prior to 2161, and the registry prefixes worked differently at the time.
First Contact was set BEFORE the Dominion War. It's confirmed that the reason why it was Worf commanding the Defiant rather than Sisko was because it was the same stardate as when Sisko was in the badlands with Michael Eddington looking for Maquis survivor's so several months too early for the war.
Hi, I really like your videos, and in particular like your choices for soundtrack. While you've listed the sources of the music you used, have you ever considered also listing the exact track titles? For example, I've been trying to track down the track that starts at 2:40 ever since I first heard it in one of your STO playthru videos.
@@mittensfastpaw at least with the Sovereign class you have to admit such a beastie ship would've been helpful on the frontlines, especially with Picard's capabilities. Enterprise should've at least been at Cardassia.
7:29 is there an Easter egg video in this decade? Starfleet seemed to have solved the issue in stopping the leaks to gain the upper hand in Star Trek literary history.
It’s a solid PR move to have your flag ship ignore a war. It’s like “sure we’ll fight you with our other ships I guess but our coolest vessel is busy doing regular stuff”
I remember in books . Enterprise e was involved in assisting the liberation of betazed and and mission behind dominion lines to a dominion base that was attepting to establish an artificial wormhole to get reinforcements from the gamma quadrant and was in president at earth when 300 breen ships attacked earth .
I don't buy that a warp-collision with a planet could do that much; otherwise the Xindi weapon, Thalaron radiation, etc. wouldn't be such a big deal; your average freighter could be a planet-killer if it forgets to put on the brakes.
Now I’m imagining the BSG fleet arriving at the United Earth (only recently surviving their own nuclear war), followed by the Cylon fleet. The Cylons try to hack the Starfleet ships, “Ha! Gotta do better than that! Eat some photon torpedoes!” , the Cylons try to use nukes to no avail, and in a panic, the Cylons attack the “humanoid” Romulan fleet after confusing it with an Earth splinter tribe. Cue the Romulan getting their revenge against the toasters several decades/centuries later.
Look up TNG dominion war novels. Good beta cannon about Enterprise E going on missions behind enemy lines to buy time for retreating federation and Klingon forces early on.
Shirley the Vulcans knew who the Romulans were and where their home planet was, Was it such a Taboo subject of shame to them that they would not share the truth with their Federation Allies? And yes......I did call you Shirley.
But there are federation starships, it's said in the dialogue when scanning for discovery. The issue they have is that the Federation is more or less scattered and disjointed after the burn. The Federation is still alive it's just different than how it looked almost a thousand years ago
@@everettjohnson9374 And that's just the sector Mr Defacto CinC is able to monitor. Its possible there are other pockets out there. Space is big.... really big (etc.)
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The decepticons remark totally caught me off guard lol!
To be honest, a crossover with the decepticons and autobots fighting alongside the federation and romulans would be really fun.
Yes, I know there's a comic that's based off the G1 cartoon and TAS, but I was thinking a little more modern.
Me too😂😂
Well... the big flaming issues are about choice that did eventually become blood but did not remove choice... so the Decepticon comparison is a really fun and fair one.
IRW RAZORBEAK.
You know, I hadn’t considered the possibility of bioweapons being a reason for the Federation’s ban on genetic engineering. I always associated the ban with the Eugenics Wars and the danger of genetically modified super-beings such as the human augments.
It was originally a response to the Augments, this would've solidified the rationale behind it but for different reasons: the Augments were, in a way, self inflicted whereas the mutagenic weapon was deployed by one species against another.
There's a, presumably, obscure Dominion War book series where the Enterprise-E discovers a Dominion attempt to bypass the mined Bajoran wormhole by creating an artificial wormhole. Now, THAT would've been something I'd have loved to see on the screen.
I read that book years ago, but the artificial wormhole is more of a sideplot in the first quarter of the book. memory-beta.fandom.com/wiki/The_Battle_of_Betazed
Thar was obscure?
@@michaelesposito2629 Here on TH-cam, whenever anybody mentions what the Enterprise-E was doing the Dominion War, it's never brought up. Nor is her participation in the Liberation of Betazed, the attempt to breach the Galactic Barrier, or her participation in counterattacking the Breen as they assaulted Earth. Those are in books, but all are quite old (older than TH-cam, and by a fair margin in some cases) so, perhaps they've slipped off the radar.
The Decepticons remark made me laugh XD
It would have been so nice if Enterprise had a fifth season.
The show enterprise was cool but it literally violated every piece of star trek history pertaining to the original series. Enterprise is actually an ultimate universe of the twenty second century, that's why everything is different.
I'm glad Enterprise was cancelled or Rick Berman and Brannon Braga would have ruined the Earth-Romulan War arc. There should not be any "phase cannons" or pre-photon torpedoes in this setting. The setting and weapons should be more like The Expanse series.
1:50 ; It appears the the U.S.S. Enterprise has a similar role to that of the UNSC Infinity from Halo or Air Force One of the USAF. She is both simultaneously the Flagship of the combined fleets and functions (like the Hyperion Ark from Mass Effect or the Battlestar Galactica) the last best hope for Humanity containing the best and brightest in case of the worse. So that even if Earth was to fall, a beacon of hope would still live on, with the potential to one day return and reclaim.
As to Galorndon Core it didn't just have 'some' dillithium. The planet had immense stockpiles of resources, particularly dillithium. That is why the kamekaze attack was able to cause so much damage.
This is not so much a comment as it is a question. Where does your information come from?
@@templerman1 From the books he's referencing with these videos. The series is quite good, particularly in fleshing out the Saurians later on.
Surprised you didn't bring up Star Trek: Insurrection for back up for what the E was doing during the Dominion War. That film takes place during the War (or right before it) with the Enterprise putting out "Diplomatic Brushfires" for the fleet which was busy with the Dominion and the film mentioned that Son'a were suspected as secretly producing ketracel-whitesome for the Dominion.
Was just about to say that myself!
Insurrection takes place after the Dominion War, as the So'na were minor allies of the Dominion during said war.
@@AT2Productions the movie takes place during late in the war going by diolog and the fact after the war worf left ds9 to be a federation ambassador to the klingon homeworld and in the film he was still stationed on ds9 and the reson he was able to visit the enterprise was cause he was at a federation colony on manzar to establish a new defence perimeter aganst the dominion which the events of the movie would fit between the ds9 episodes it's only a paper moon and field of fire
@@Michellejosph because Trek has been perfect in dialog consistency, wait, how many decks does the Enterprise-E have again?
Let's take a look at what was said on-screen.
From Riker before the banquet: "The diplomatic corps is busy with Dominion negotiations." Hmmm ... negotiations are a post-war task, post surrender and pre-treaty. Or how about this, again from Riker when researching the Son'a: "Look at this. The Son'a are known to have produced vast quantities of the narcotic ketracel-white." Produced, past tense.
Even in DS9 they didn't show every single second from the end of fighting, the surrender, through the negotiations to follow, but only the signing of something at DS9. That very well may have been similar to the signing of the Japanese surrender aboard the USS Missouri in Tokyo Bay, as we don't know what document that is, it could be just the surrender instead of the peace treaty. Not everything we see in a Trek episode is inherently sequential and immediate, so Worf could have had time before or after that signing event and his departure to be the new Ambassador to Qo'noS.
@@AT2Productions Insurrection seemed to have taken place during the Dominion War. Possibly around the time of DS9 ep Statistical Probabilities, when there were negotiations happening with the Dominion.
@Certifiably Ingame You could have mentioned the Dominion War book series. 4 book mini series. 2 DS9 (novelizations of the first 6 eps of season 6) and 2 TNG, showing what the Enterprise E was up to during that part of the war.
I've sadly fallen way behind in my reading. I own most, if not all of the Romulan War novels, but never got around to reading them in all these years.
You should read them. It's a fairly well written telling that explains much of the 'legendary' history and gives a much better ending for ENT than what we were given.
The detail about ships needing to be refit with analog interfaces is such a nice tie in to explain why the interiors of ships look dated from the newer shows to TOS
Literally laughed out loud with the Deceptions comment. So well done!
Star Trek Insurrection mentions that the Enterprise-E was busy putting out diplomatic brush fires as the majority of the Federation Diplomatic Corps were busy with Dominion negotiations.
Love the videos man. Wish you had a patreon so I could support the videos.
It is nice to see small channels get such support.
I feel like a craft moving at several times the speed of light would do a a bit more damage than the equivalent of a large asteroid impact.
Wouldn’t such unimaginable amounts of kinetic energy at best turn the entire surface molten and at worst blow a giant chunk out of the planet or even blast into pieces entirely?
You forgot Star Trek Insurrection where the Enterprise E was also in a diplomatic mission during the Dominion War.
Videos to add to this series? Do videos on the early ship classes of the era, one video for Starfleet's, one for the Klingons, one for the Romulans, one for the Vulcans, one for the Xindi. You get the idea.
You explain it so much better than the novels themselves did! "The Romulan War" series of "Star Trek: Enterprise" novels were very poorly written, despite containing some interesting ideas. But the problem was there was basically NO WAR in a series of novels about a war. You were basically reading hundreds of pages of an "after-action report," and every now and then our main heroes (the Enterprise crew) would made a cameo appearance, talking about how much that battle sucked--after it had already taken place--and, damn, they were depressed about it. And...well, we just had to take their word for it.
"Meanwhile, the Decepticons, I mean the Romulans..."
Ha! Excellent remark.
Hey Rick is I know you Mainly do videos on star trek but is there any chance you could possibly do a series of videos on the Babylon 5 novels and short stories since not a lot of people know about them and I think they should because unlike other Non televised media Based around a scifi franchise pretty much all the stories are Canon
@yeah I'm John Assal don't forget the fall of Centauri Prime trilogy
Truly sucks what happened to the series. We got a bad Ranger spin off but never the telepath war or dark war. Just good story telling and solid work all around.
I find it funny that NX class is the only class of ship not named after the first one built. By all rights this should be Enterprise Class. The Enterprise NCC-1701 class of ship was a Constitution class the design being named after the USS Constitution NCC-1700 because it was the first one built. The Enterprise NCC-1701-D was a Galaxy class named after the first ship of the line USS Galaxy NCC-70637. SInce in the show they kept calling it the first warp 5 ship meaning it was the first one built so it should be the Enterprise Class not the NX Class
My headcanon for resolving this is that ship classes weren't named until after the establishment of the Federation. So for instance, what we know as the Daedalus-class would have been called something like an "NC-class" at the time, with a registry prefix of NC-xx; the Intrepid-type would be an "ND-class" with an ND-xx registry; etcetera. Once the UESPA became the Federation Starfleet, they revised the classification and registration system to what we're familiar with.
You're especially right, since NX is used for experimental ships from that point on. (The first Defiant is an NX registry ship.) Clearly they meant to do that when they started Enterprise, then forgot when they made the second ship of that design NX-02, when it should have been NCC.
@@d.b.4671 NCC isn't a class, it's an acronym for Naval Construction Contract. (Though there is contradiction on that.) That's why every ship that isn't experimental (Naval eXperiment) is NCC.
@@Swiftbow - I didn't say it was. I'm saying that (again, according to my headcanon) the NCC/NX/NAR system didn't exist prior to 2161, and the registry prefixes worked differently at the time.
@@d.b.4671 Ah, ok.
Much obliged! ☠️🏴🖤👍🏼
First Contact was set BEFORE the Dominion War. It's confirmed that the reason why it was Worf commanding the Defiant rather than Sisko was because it was the same stardate as when Sisko was in the badlands with Michael Eddington looking for Maquis survivor's so several months too early for the war.
Hi,
I really like your videos, and in particular like your choices for soundtrack. While you've listed the sources of the music you used, have you ever considered also listing the exact track titles? For example, I've been trying to track down the track that starts at 2:40 ever since I first heard it in one of your STO playthru videos.
I guess Starfleet loves sidelining the Enterprise during wartime.
@Philip L Tite In the case of Kirk, ordering him to keep out of the fight is like keeping a comment section civil.
A war is won on more fronts than just pew pew.
@@mittensfastpaw at least with the Sovereign class you have to admit such a beastie ship would've been helpful on the frontlines, especially with Picard's capabilities. Enterprise should've at least been at Cardassia.
@@toastedjawa3620 True but a book had them freeing Betazed at the same time.
@@mittensfastpaw ah, given a certain important crew member that's a good alternative
Fantastic job! 👍👍
apearently decepticons exist in star trek who knew
Didn't you read the crossover comics?
Meanwhile the Decepticons... the Romulans... LOL as a Transformers Reviewer I approve of this joke!
Really shame ppl hate this tv show. I think its really good and s5 would have been very good.
7:29 is there an Easter egg video in this decade? Starfleet seemed to have solved the issue in stopping the leaks to gain the upper hand in Star Trek literary history.
Will there be a super cut of the Romulan war?
The Kevin ship is in fact a San Diego class medium destroyer
It’s a solid PR move to have your flag ship ignore a war. It’s like “sure we’ll fight you with our other ships I guess but our coolest vessel is busy doing regular stuff”
I remember in books . Enterprise e was involved in assisting the liberation of betazed and and mission behind dominion lines to a dominion base that was attepting to establish an artificial wormhole to get reinforcements from the gamma quadrant and was in president at earth when 300 breen ships attacked earth .
This just confirms it; Enterprise was cancelled just before It got good.
While I enjoyed it, lol you can’t honestly say something got cancelled just before it got good. After 4 seasons...
So, what you're saying is that every Enterprise is a white elephant.
Why would Romulans need dilithium when their engine is powered by a contained singularity?
What was the other Romulan ship shown in the video?
There's a T'Varo class, a T'Liss class and a Thrai Warbird.
I don't buy that a warp-collision with a planet could do that much; otherwise the Xindi weapon, Thalaron radiation, etc. wouldn't be such a big deal; your average freighter could be a planet-killer if it forgets to put on the brakes.
What type of beef did d'deridex have with Baron Vladimir Haarkonnen and geidi prime? lol
Not enough Spice for his Romulan Ale.
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7:30 What else is new ? I recall her whining because the stars were going the wrong way .
Did the NX refit / Columbia Class never officially happen?
Would have if we had season 5.
@@ironinquisitor3656 I mean more whether or not it happened even in extended canon during the war.
@@georgefrankly It was after.
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Well now you've basically forced yourself to do at least one Transformers lore video.
@Philip L Tite The one I read crossed the Transformers Generation 1 cartoon with Star Trek TAS.
Enterprise was a cool show but it was an alternate universe 22nd Century, not the same timeline as TOS.
Pyrrhic victories was what Starfleet DIDN'T need... 😏😌
We didn't see all fronts of the dominion war. And Wnterlrise was on those other front. Real world reason, they couldn't use the ship in the show
so the romulans are basically cylons that hate ai
Now I’m imagining the BSG fleet arriving at the United Earth (only recently surviving their own nuclear war), followed by the Cylon fleet. The Cylons try to hack the Starfleet ships, “Ha! Gotta do better than that! Eat some photon torpedoes!” , the Cylons try to use nukes to no avail, and in a panic, the Cylons attack the “humanoid” Romulan fleet after confusing it with an Earth splinter tribe.
Cue the Romulan getting their revenge against the toasters several decades/centuries later.
Good specula, oops I mean speculation!
Look up TNG dominion war novels. Good beta cannon about Enterprise E going on missions behind enemy lines to buy time for retreating federation and Klingon forces early on.
can we see the uss enterprise become a transformer especially tos
I HAVE ONLY ONE FEAR, THAT WE WILL LOSE THE DREAM OF THE FEDERATION.
COMPARED TO SUCH A LOSS, I DO NOT FEAR THE ROMULAN EMPIRE!!!!
Commodore Archer.
Yay
STD ss3?
Oxymoron of the day: apocryphal canon.
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Shirley the Vulcans knew who the Romulans were and where their home planet was,
Was it such a Taboo subject of shame to them that they would not share the truth with their
Federation Allies? And yes......I did call you Shirley.
It was such a guarded secret that they even hid the information from the Vulcan public.
All of this can be don whit a good old norton anti virus fier whall 1990 lol
Deceptions! 😂😂😂😂
I always wonder why games never depict women flat chested, women alway in the game have a nice full chest area.
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Romulan’s are such butts and STO has better story that any so called new Star Trek.
Lol decepticons 😂
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Ah the nostalgia of the old original Romulan warbirds. Stay well out there everybody, and Jesus Christ be with you friends.😊
Please ask this Jesus to social distance and stay at home.
I have Jesus on Skype; he’s always welcome in my Zoom parties! ;D
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The new EP of Discovery is the word thing I've ever seen ,no Federation,no Starships ...do not watch
But there are federation starships, it's said in the dialogue when scanning for discovery. The issue they have is that the Federation is more or less scattered and disjointed after the burn. The Federation is still alive it's just different than how it looked almost a thousand years ago
@@everettjohnson9374 And that's just the sector Mr Defacto CinC is able to monitor. Its possible there are other pockets out there. Space is big.... really big (etc.)