I bought this based on review and IMO the capped peak full screen brightness under 150nits is in fact excellent. When using a display this large, the overall screen brightness is eye searing on 43" VA and IPS screens at even 300nits due to the sheer size, I have used several and no matter what you will get eye strain after a few hours. Its a literal wall of light. On the OLED however, black background generates zero passive screen emission with small pockets of light and full white is not eye searing, rather caps at 150nis which looks grey and is kind of busted, but I assure you, a 600+ nit 48" HDR flash-bang will send you blind at 1am in a dark room. If you use monitors a lot (ie for work), the OLED is much easier on the eyes and you can bring it down extremely, extremely dim and still be usable. Kind of random but thought I would mention in case someone reads.
did you run into any issues with the switch of messages? I ordered one, it worked out to be 1/2 the price for the C1 and figured to try it for that price point.
150 nits is nothing, a lot of displays even in the monitor space and OLED space are already surpassing 1000+ nits. 150 nits just looks eye searing because most IPS monitors aren’t even 100 nits.
@@CrazyAboutVinylRecords Sony A95K, Samsung S95B, LG G2 are some of the ones that already surpass 1000 nits (S95B used to get to 1500 nits before it was patched). Albeit these are small window sizes such as 5-10% windows, but even TV’s like the S95B can hit 500 nits full field. My Panasonic Plasma from 2008 could reach over 200 nits full field, 150 nits full field is absurdly bad by todays standards
Me: "Man this 48" LG OLED is great, I wish they or someone would make something smaller and slightly cheaper. I would buy it immediately." Gigabyte: "You said you wanted the exact same thing the competition is offering but higher priced?"
To be fair, that's all gigabyte does, just takes what the market has, cut all available cost and increase the price. In this case, they just bought their own C1 stock and still made it worse.
I think it was more like this. Gigabyte: People want an OLED monitor for their computers and not connect a TV. Just copy the C1 and slap a monitor sticker on the box. They will pay even more for it, since they are used to pay thousands of dollars for inferior monitors anyway.
@@WCIIIReiniger which some people might, if they truly removed all of the TV functionality from that monitor but they didn't - an OLED monitor that don't have any form of ABL at all could be a compelling offer to some but they just have to remove everything but that one thing people wanted gone
The problem isn't really Gigabytes. There *aren't* any smaller OLED panels suitable for PC use on the market, so they worked with what they have. They don't make the panels.
Yeah at 48" its just way too big for most people. I'd love to see one at about 35" or so. Maybe the panels are still too expensive to produce at these sizes.
yeah i really feel like even a 32 inch monitor is huge from a desk viewing distance. My ideal monitor would be an 27inch 1440p 240hz oled(never gonna happen but a man can dream :/ )
@@TheCreator919 What is the point of ultrawide? Its like buying a car but its sliced in two so you just get the middle part LOL. Thats essentially what ultrawides are, you buy half a monitor.
@@Takashita_Sukakoki 32" is the biggest for normal viewing distances. Any bigger and it's too big. 32 seems to be the sweet spot at around 60cm distance.
Happy to see another large screen review, my living room PC thanks you for growing into this area. Console gamers 'own' the living room but not all PC's are desktops, thrilled to see Hardware on Box is coming around to large screens for other PC uses.
I am not even looking for a monitor but these reviews are still fun and informative to watch. very in depth about their performance. Nice work my australian MATES!!!!!!!!
I have owned the LG CX 48" for over a year and use it as my only PC monitor. It is hands-down the best monitor I have ever owned. The small annoyances such as auto brightness dimming is quickly overlooked when you see the panel in person. I even bought the five year coverage that included image retention, but there is absolutely no image retention to speak of. If you have been on the fence with the LG CX or C1, just do it. I'm not sure why anyone would pay more for the Gigabyte model when they are most likely just getting their panels from LG.
No it's been confirmed. it's literally the same panel from LG, it's the evo one to be specific. Well it definitely feels like they screwed it up a bit.
@@drunkhusband6257 Thanks for your concern, Drunk Husband. You are obviously too inebriated to understand what I wrote. I will certainly enjoy returning it for a newer model should I happen to get burn in.
I was thinking of using it as a monitor with my pc. I have the C1 but pretty much same thing. You got certain settings you need to apply first to prevent burn it?
This review has started to make more sense now that the FO48U is on sale here in Australia. I was looking to pick up an LG C1 48" but they were never below $2000aud. I just picked up my FO48U on sale at $1099aud which makes it almost half the price of the C1. Even when not on sale these monitors are still selling significantly cheaper than the LG tv's. Its hard to pass up an excellent OLED panel for so cheap. ABL hasn't annoyed me as much as I initially though it would and overall Im loving it. I compare it to my CX 55" and it holds up very well. Will have to report back in a couple months to see if Ihave accumulated any burn in. Thanks for the review.
@@alejandroromito Hey mate, yea I've had zero issues with the panel and really love it. The only little annoying things is the ABL can be a little aggressive when you have a full screen white, like a web page for example. Otherwise, I've had zero burn in and I've already clocked up a couple hundred hours. Great purchase IMO.
@@TheMaca1991 thanks so much! Did you have that problem that many users talk about, continuous use for more than 4 hours, and the monitor turns off by itself to do maintenance?
@@alejandroromito Nah, so I think mine takes quite a bit of hours before it pops up with that notification. And even if it does, a quick press on the monitors toggle switch removes it, and the process won't start until you power down the monitor, and the process takes about 5 minutes max. It has never just turnt itself off whilst in use.
I have been rocking the Gigabyte Aorus FV43U for a few months and have been very happy with it. It's not a perfect display, but it hits so many marks and I was able to snag it on sale at Newegg for $900 USD. It works great as a combo productivity/gaming display. I do web development and digital marketing on a MacBook Pro where it is an external display and have a gaming PC and Xbox Series X hooked up to it for gaming. The 43" size is the max I think is practical... I considered a LG C1, but felt the size cost and burn in risk for my use case was too high. Again I recommend to take a look at the Gigabyte Aorus FV43U as a large format monitor as I think it is the best value for money in that space!
I rock a c1 oled. Love it. Highly recommend others look into oled too. it does require some babying with regard to the burn-in. Not much. Just vary window sizes and positions. But the size should be noted. The deep desk requirement is overblown. You can use a regular desk and just treat the display as if it were a multi-monitor setup. If you must have your windows maximized all the time, a 48-in is probably not for you. For movies, it's great to sit back and watch. I haven't done too much full-screen gaming that requires mouse and keyboard, but it is easy enough to resize your desktop so it only uses part of the screen (not recommend for regular use as it will cause uneven wear across the screen). LG's 48in C1 oled is the best monitor i have ever owned by a lot. And if you can handle the few (but significant) downsides, oled is the way to go.
I use a LG OLED C1 65 inches with my 5800X3D & 4090 PC and still I'm so unbelievably happy with it! I set screensaver to one minute and there's absolutely no risk for any burn-in!
I have the c1, yes 48" is to big for most desks. Mine is on a floor stand, would have mounted it to a wall if I wasn't renting. Best tv/monitor I've owned
Thank you for including input lag comparisons in your reviews, it’s why i watch your videos. I hope you guys continue to do so in the future (i noticed a recent upload didn’t have an imput lag comparison)
a tip for anyone concerned about using such a large monitor on your desk, personally I would just opt for a vesa floor stand and move the monitor further away and you end up with even more desk real-estate when compared to a traditional setup
EIZO says: in an office with normal brightness of 300-500 lux, the display brightness should be adjusted to around 100-150 cd / m2. Usually a gamer or a person watching a movie does it in even less lighted environments. So, set the brightness of your OLED to level 38 and forget about the burn in, otherwise buy an LCD.
i recently replaced an alienware aw3821dw with an LG C1 and its been amazing, most retailers offer some kind of extra warranty or protection that covers the dreaded fear of burn in aswell so its always the smart option to take that out, if it burns in at 12 months replace it, if you manage to get it to the 4 year mark before panel issues start showing then get it replaced...likely with a newer model too, its a no lose situation but only if you take out the extra warranty. cant speak highly enough of the C1, the ps5 just works, my 3080 pc just works, movies... just sublime, HDR awesome... the ultrawide i had was great but image quality isnt really that close at all, OLED is amazing.
I'm used to my c1 48" now after using it for a month. Wish the stand was a bit smaller though. OLED pixel brightness at 100 and brightness at 50. Logo dimming at high with a black screen saver. So far so good. Got a 4 year warranty that covers burn in too.
Couple of things ; HDMI 2.1 is pretty much unsupported in anything other than Windows and will likely continue to be the case due the HDMI consortia basically saying DSC can't be implemented in the open. This makes anything that needs to be fed by HDMI2.1 to achieve i.e 8k@60 or above or VRR impossible on an Operating system using Open Standards drivers i.e Linux/FreeBSD. Especially concerning given SteamDeck and other platforms. In summary the inclusion of Display Port is the real feature here - and I was uncertain how you were driving the panel from the review. I strongly recommend you do testing on a modern Linux Distro (i.e Fedora etc) so compare what is broken in the various vendor implementations as part of your reviews. VRR can be implemented over HDMI2.0 but is not standard so it would be interesting to know which panels the vendors have taken time to make sure Open compatibility is implemented. There is a potential work around by using DP1.4->HDMI2.1 active adaptors for at least High refresh rate support, however VRR won't be negotiated through these adaptors.
Good points but I think covering more niche topics would be best handled by a channel that specializes in niche topics. Then again not very many channels I have come across go into the depth that Hardware Unboxed does. I would love it if they included some kind of measurement on ecosystem interoperability.
@@drunkhusband6257 that’s on you I have had doles over the past few years and neevr got burn in even with gaming tried the whole mini led tech this year and went back to getting a c1 oled that tech still doesn’t touch oled episcally looking at them side by side
I really wish the prices came down a great deal with a 32' option was out there, somehow the few 32' models are way way way over priced. but its good information on how the segment is progressing. thank you for that.
currently the gigabyte is about 700 dollars cheaper and a great buy. In Australia costing about 1099 and lg c1 costing close to 2000. Wish it was the opposite but at the moment gigabyte is the way to go. Update: So i've bought two, one for series x and one for the computer. bought both close to 1100 AUD . Awesome buy.
The funny thing is, my last 2 monitors I have used have been VA panels and they have both suffered from burn in after 1.5yrs. I recently purchased an LG C2 48” as the replacement of my 49” ultra-wide monitor that failed. I use my monitor for both work and home use. Work/productivity for 8-10hrs a day M-F and then I might PC game later that evening for 2-4hrs. We will see how long this TV lasts as a monitor. I have a 5yr protection plan that covers burn in and there is nowhere in the terms and conditions that states I can’t use the TV as a monitor or uses the caveat outside of normal use in their verbiage. The only stipulation they specifically place is an indoor TV that is used outdoors is not covered. I called the support line twice and verified with two reps and a supervisor that an OLED TV can be used as a monitor and would be covered under their plan. Time will tell
I'm going to ask the important question here - does it blow up? That seems to be the ongoing theme for Gigabyte's products of recent going from power supplies through to graphics cards and more recently tweated 'gaming chairs'.
@@benjy117 You... should probably check every manufacturer of every computer component you own. Short of Intel, who has their own fab, everything in your computer is from Taiwan unless you have some ungodly low quality shit like Biostar or Gainward from China. ASUS, MSI, Gigabyte, ASRock, EVGA, XFX, Sapphire and PowerColor are all Taiwan-producing companies. AMD produces all their chips in Taiwan. Nvidia produces all their data center chips in Taiwan, but produces their consumer chips in Korea. And the list goes on with sub-component manufactures like Realtek, Broadcom, Ralink, ASMedia, Ricoh, etc.
The display port lets you get 4k 120hz on the M1 series of apple products, which don't support 4k 120 over HDMI 2.1, even with display port to HDMI adapters.
Man I wish I could find a glossy 27 inch monitor. Really hate the snow flake effect of the anti reflective coating on matte displays. Makes the sharpness of 4K look way less noticeable and impressive.
While I'd tend to agree (it shouldn't be called full bandwidth), in practice the only effect will be to reduce the maximum colour depth from 12-bit to 10-bit, which users shouldn't be able to notice in practice. So, don't call it full bandwidth because it isn't, but it's not nearly as big of a problem as a 24 Gbps max.
14:34 I have seen on reddit that most daily desktop users of the (CX/C1) have their OLED light brightness set to 25~35 for a range that is just above or under 100nits. This is the very key setting to use 48" OLEDs as a daily desktop monitor, Linus set his brightness to 80 as he said in his Burn-in video. (youtube hWrFEU_605g?t=373). And some Techtubers have their 6 months after review as desktop use, it is very much possible to use this as a daily desktop monitor; but you need to have the settings right on the TV and Windows 10.
The idea to lit up your room so much its like sitting on a sunny beach in Havana, is stupid you do not need a bright room, the idea that we damage our eyes if our room is too dark and the display is too bright, it does in fact have nothing to do with that but the blue light emitted from the display thats actually the danger, and OLED's these days barely has any blue light emission thats dangerous. So its a moot point, I dunno whats more logical, buy 2000 euro display just to get it bright enough, or buy 10 euro blinds for your fucking windows.
@@MrFujisawa I hope it is clear at LG Electronics that they need a desktop mode with like +100nits, it solves so much annoying issues with the picture quality. 10:38 The power consumption will also be a lot lower, my guess would be like 60-70Watts when set at 100nits settings. @Mr Fujisawa - You have any clue how many Watts the TV is using at 38 brightness at 120nits?
@@SMGJohn by Andy Bassett Feb 5, 2020 LG Display has received official verification of the low blue light emissions of its OLED TV displays from leading global safety certification company, UL. The ‘Low Blue Light Display’ Verified Mark from UL (originally Underwriters Laboratories Inc) is granted to display products when their blue light emission meets the “risk exempt” standard (100W/sr/m2) set by the International Electrotechnical Commission (IEC). During testing, LG Display’s OLED TV panels were found to emit 50 percent lower blue light than the standard, or about 60 percent of blue light that the same-size premium LCD TV displays on the market are reported to emit. However, the verification raises a few questions. Last year LG Display were awarded ‘Eye Comfort’ certification for low blue light parameters in its OLED TV displays by TUV Rheinland, a similar inspection and certification outfit and it's not clear why LG Display has moved from TUV to UL in just 12 months. Dr. Chang-Ho Oh, Executive Vice President & Head of the TV Business Unit at LG Display was in charge of putting the company’s OLED panels though both certification programmes. It’s also not clear whether the UL validation is only relevant to the latest 2020 range of OLED panels or if it supersedes the TUV certification across all recent OLED ranges. It’s possible the UL badge is more well known as a mark of safety than TUV in the US market where several TV manufacturers plan to release OLED models for the first time. While the details of the testing and the rationale for the change in the testing partner remain unknown, the bottom line is that LG Display’s OLED panels have certifiably lower blue light emissions which will result in reduced eye fatigue and sleep disturbance for viewers. Given increasing awareness among consumers about the effects of overexposure to screens that emit too much blue light and the rise in ‘Dark Modes’ on devices such as mobile phones to help ease strain on the eyes, LG Display expects that the UL Verified Mark will further underscore the value of OLED TVs to consumers. Since 2020 will be a year that sees new LG Display clients such as Sharp, Vizio and Skyworth all releasing OLED TVs, the company will encourage its global OLED TV brands and distributors to use the Mark. Dr. Chang-Ho Oh said, “This UL Verified Mark makes it clear that LG Display’s OLED TV displays exceed the highest international standards with regard to eye safety. These OLED displays are already touted for their unmatched picture quality and design flexibility in the market, and now we expect that OLED’s recognized value in terms of eye health will further convince consumers to opt for OLED TVs down the road.” Mirko Bautz, Vice President of Global Accounts at UL, added, “UL empowers trust by helping demonstrate how a brand and its products are responsible and worthy of consumer confidence.” He went on, "As a globally recognized company with deep experience and expertise in the field of test evaluation, we are excited that our methods confirmed that LG Display is delivering on their claims.” With increasing numbers of OLED TVs predicted to be sold over the next three years (shipments are forecast to grow to 5.4 million units in 2020, increasing to 7.3 million units in 2021 and over 12 million units in 2023), what do AVForums readers think of having the ‘Low Blue Light Display’ badge for TVs?
Do you mean to imply that the Gigabyte monitor uses the newer EVO panel? the later model C1's use EVO panel with the brightness limited in software. You can go into the service menu and change the product number to G1 to unlock the higher brightness (though LG may have already addressed this with a firmware update). I have the service remote for mine and verified that mine has the EVO panel but have not bothered to modify anything in there. I might disable the automatic brightness limiter, though. I don't care about power usage, I don't see how that would impact burn in (as burn in is most noticeable with differences in emissivity of adjacent pixels caused my unequal wear). Only thing I can imagine it causing problems with is an undersized and overloaded power supply.
I have C7 and B9 Oleds. So they are now 2 and 4 years old. The B9 is used mainly for gaming, sports and youtube and shows zero signs of burn in. The C7 is in the living room and is used mostly to watch tv series and movies and as finns most of our content comes with subtitles. The C7 has started to show signs of diminished ability to reach bright scenes with the pixels around the area where subtitles usually are so for example if there is a red scene you can clearly see that all the pixels in the bottom part of the screen can't keep up. It's a abit annoying to me, but my wife didn't even notice before I told her.
There's the LG 32EP950 and ASUS PA32DC (both using a JOLED 32" 4K 60Hz panel) but they're not really gaming monitors. According to DisplayNinja, AUO has a prototype 32" 4K 144Hz OLED panel but there's nothing available to consumers yet. Hopefully next year we'll start seeing these, but expect costs to be high!
By the time OLED monitors hit the mainstream, graphics cards should be powerful enough to render native 4K without a sweat. A 1440p OLED monitor would be real nice to have right now though, for sure.
@@konga382 TBH, my 6800 XT already handles most of what I play at 4K at potentially much higher than 60 FPS, thus I'd be quite happy to have a 4K 144Hz OLED right now. The main problem with that is lack of DP 2.0, which will necessitate a GPU upgrade (or sidegrade) to take full advantage.
Same here, can't decide between LG 34GN850 and 34GP950, main difference is that the GP950 has better brightness and color accuracy, not to mention that the price difference is $500+ between them, and the other thing is that the 34GP38 is impossible to get. Would love an OLED 34" monitor though, I'd save up as much as I could for a quality one.
@@allyourfuturebelongstochina My cousin has a 27" 1440p IPS monitor, after trying it I thought I'd definitely buy one, but then I got the opportunity to try out my friends LG 34GN850. I legit didn't ever think a monitor could be so immersive lmao.
@@Android-ng1wn I'm still saying it and am lamenting the fact that the new pixel 6 is so much bigger than the 5. I hate not reaching everything when handling my phone with one hand.
This model is on sale right now (April 4th) at MWave for only $1099. I wish I had the money to buy it right now! It was 1899 at release. EDIT! I’m picking one up at this price!!
I have the LG C1 as a TV and loved it so much I bought a 48" to consolidate my TV/ / dual monitor setup. Like I said, I love it as a TV but hate it as a monitor. There are probably quite a few gripes people have but (as a programmer) my 2 were: 1: Sometimes the text looks blocky or to thin and has extra white around the letters making readability difficult. 2: LG has an OLED protection feature to dim the monitor for static content . Usually when I'm coding, it dims on me and is annoying. Even when I'm typing constantly. I guess the color scheme is not changing enough to trigger a significant change so the display dims to protect the features. In general, I think I'll never get an OLED as a monitor. I'll switch back to my 2K non OLED monitor and wait for a new technology for monitors.
Your text problem sounds like sharpening halos. Was the sharpness/"super resolution" turned off? A lot of times these features are on by default but they actually make things look way worse.
I picked up the Aorus FV43U because 48” just seemed too big and I was nervous about running an OLED as a desktop for 10 hours per day. I have to say the 43U has been amazing!
Great review as always. Would like to ask, if you have any plans to review the AOC AG274QXM. It's DisplayHDR 1000 Certified at a price point of around 1100 Euros, which does make it very appealing in my opinion. I don't know how availability is in Australia, but I believe it should start appearing in Germany at the start of November. Thank you and have a great day!
the only problem with this monitor in practice is that its not 240/360hz. Going from 60 to this was slightly underwhelming at first, but the motion clarity in fps games puts it ahead of all non oled panels below say.....180ish fps. Buy this then upgrade to the 240hz model that is going to arrive behind the c3 or 4 lg series. Presumably gigabyte will still be able to offer a significantly lower price by relying on dsc like this model.
@@stefanrenn-jones9452 Are you high bro!? You’re complaining that it’s not 360hz at 4K and OLED? There’s so many high refresh rate monitors for esports games and other FPS’s. This is not aimed at that market. This is for movies and games where graphical fidelity is preferred over ultra-high refresh rate. This is perfect for games with ray tracing and gorgeous visuals.
6:08 What LTT shows that it is not a "risk", but it defently will burn-in. Risk is kind of probability which may occur, may not. Common CGI artist spent lots of hours per day working (with lot of static UI elements), and the burn-in will be even worse then LTT has.
So, I found this panel (Aorus 48"OLED) on Newegg current price is $1199 (US) with a $200 off coupon code AND an additional $200 mail-in rebate card, bringing the total cost (assuming there are no issues with getting the rebate card) at $799!!!! I've made the purchase and am supposed to get it on Friday. I guess I will find out if it was worth the price (and worth buying it from Newegg with all the bad publicity they have been getting lately).
Quick update as someone owns this, the display has a very tedious panel protection feature that anyone using/owning this will know and hate. This is basically where reviews still fall short and "old skool" owners forums are way better resources of information. After about 4 hours of use or so, it will force off the display and the LED will flash for 5 minutes exactly, this "panel protection" feature is not particularly welcome at the end of a PUBG round, or a CSGO match, almost makes this monitor unusable for any competitive gaming. Even work, as I had this monitor go into panel protection when I was on a Zoom call. Busted boys, straight busted. Hence the discounts as I think this is probably going to be one of the most returned products ever. It looks amazing, but using it is really annoying.
The tv's don't have the low latency. At best you might get under 8ms on a tv vs the just over 1ms with this monitor. I game with my PC and PS5 on a standard 49-inch tv. I mostly use a controller and (for me) it's proven to be a nice setup.
Sony A80J (More expensive. Better upscaling of content that isn't native 4k. Less feature rich in terms of VRR). Vizio OLED (Cheaper, with a LOT of compromises).
Glad I got the C1 48”. I’m currently running it at 1440p without display scaling so there are black bars all around the picture. I’m essentially left with a 32” 1440p 120hz OLED, which is awesome. You do of course need the space to put the TV on your desk.
It's unfathomable how Sony and Gigabyte buy LG panels, make a worse software and hardware offering (no VRR/smart TV/upscaling/few HDMI 2.1 ports), and charge a higher price. I do like the stand on Gigabyte though: my LG48's stand eats up like 20 or 30cm in depth
Its basic economics, actually. This is not a TV, but a gaming monitor. Therefore, its market is much smaller (intensified by its high price, but even at 500 dollars less only few people would buy it, since its practical use case is so limited) and its price will be higher, since a smaller range of units sold will have to cover costs for R&D, marketing, production and so on. People keep complaining about how (gaming) monitors are so much more expensive relative to the features offered when compared to TVs - this is the reason right here. For the FO48U specifically, you'll also have to add the factor of street pricing to having been able to drop yet, since the model reached the market only recently.
for my use gigabyte model will fit like a glove , as a developer and casual gamer having DP / USB type c / KVM switch built in is everything that I wanted so I think it's depends of the use cases hope they make a 42 inch using the latest panel from LG C2 line
Also in can run 120hz on oled and you wint have issues with tearing as the pixels react instantaneously its already given you get a non tearing and picture quality at the same time. Its just not for productivity usage and will surely geta a burn in.
I have this panel, goes on sale occasionally for around $100 off. It gets used for a variety of tasks (multi windowed productivity, PC/PS5 games, movies, etc). It is more than bright enough from about a meter away unless you are in full sun with a very dark scene. Recommendations - install new firmware, brightness 100% use windows sdr/hdr adjustment to your liking, if you hear clicking between restarts/sleep cycles let the compensation cycle run (5-10 minutes), panel protection completely gets rid of image retention (power down with joystick, takes ~ hour). It's an alternative to the LG bloat you get with a C1. Review is correct in regards to price. Inflation and profit margin are definite drawbacks.
Best used as a "secondary" gaming screen. DO all regular desktop work on a normal monitor, then move over to the OLED for gaming (space dependent OFC).
@@8bitchiptune420 and with bluetooth you can't turn off, ads and an insanely bad menu that you can only use with a remote. No USB hub, no displayport. It ought to be cheaper for the garbage user experience.
@@8bitchiptune420 Yeah I found $100 less, $2200 for this and $2100 for the C1 (AUD). It's pretty niche but if your GPU can do 4K and doesn't have HDMI 2.1 (there's a handful of GPUs like that), you may still consider this, shame it doesn't completely match the C1 though that would've been nice.
It has worse backlight strobing, worse brightness, less features and overall just so slightly slower in all input lag and motion tests (although, to be honest, most definitely imperceptible in this last point), and is slightly more expensive. Literally only reason to buy it is if you need a display like this now and don't have a hdmi 2.1 graphics card.
It's not perfect, but we're finally seeing OLED monitors come to the market so you know other companies will follow suit. The fact Gigabyte is fairly new to the monitor market and already have so many monitors with such great price to performance is awesome. Can't wait until we get ultra wide or 32" OLED monitors.
I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but anything smaller than a 48" Oled monitor isn't happening. Oled scales upin size just fine, but anything under 48" isn't likely to happen as the technology isn't cost effective to make at smaller sizes.
After watching some videos from colleagues before watching this, can I just point out that the quality of your videos is just the best,... by far. And I mean the quality of the image, you guys must have a great setup. What do you use for a camera and for lighting?
Excellent review, specially its highlighting how it does not compete well with the C1, even if it performs relatively well for an Oled. Exact same panel clearly will not guarantee same feature set and/or same end user experience
up until early 2010s FPS pro players still played on them. Many of them could hit 240hz. Problem is they had to reduce their resolution to reach that. So it wasn't that sought after back then. Lack of ghosting and no response lag was the real reason people kept them. They also blasted your eyes with way more radiation than is socially acceptable nowadays(you get more from many sources now anyway) .
TLDR: Just by the LG C1, the Gigabyte uses LG's OLED panel but somehow makes it worse, which is due to the processing behind the scenes. Plus you can use the LG as a full on TV. Doesn't pretty much everyone in the world still use LG's OLED panels?? Or are there other vendors making their own panels??
Another thing i would note if you ever plan on using streaming services go with the LG. It might not seem like a big deal at first but some streaming services like Disney+ have terrible support on pc and will limit you to 720p streaming. It much better to use the built-in smart tv apps to ensure you will get 4k Dolby Vision for that content that supports it.
One other benefit for the Gigabyte that wasn't mentioned here is that (at least in the Australian market) the Gigabyte comes with a 3 year warranty, while the LG base warranty is only 1 year. I think that could be a pretty major factor for a lot of potential buyers who are considering that two products, especially considering that these days the Gigabyte is also a good $500 or so cheaper at advertised prices.
I had one for less than a month and have already experienced burn in. It’s very visible on solid white backgrounds. The picture is amazing but am shocked how quick the burn in occurred.
@@tivtag I decided to return it. I play flight simulator mostly and it burnt in the aircrafts instrument panel. Could only notice it on solid white or light colored backgrounds.
I bought the C1 a few weeks ago and I'm very happy with my desicion. In the End with a Cashback Option it set me back €1200. The RTX 2080 in my pc limits the display to 60Hz with HDR, but i don't need more when playing scenic single player games. You can turn on 120hz mode, there you Notice that the Colors look a bit off, but thats not a Problem for me, when I'm playing Valorant or CS:GO. For Movies I use the the Netflix App on the TV and there I was blown away, when i first saw some Dolby Vison Content. It just looks so damn awesome.
You can just use 1440p120hz with hdr. I did this to before I bought a hdmi 2.1 gpu. 1440p still looks decent if you are not sitting very close to your C1. Especially in csgo and valorant I would say 120hz is far more important than 4k. Also hdr is more important than 4k I think, so I would definitely play at 1440p.
@@DarkReturns1 Then turn it on or off before playing a game, unless you're switching between HDR/non-HDR games 10 times a day it's a much better alternative then leaving it on for desktop where it's just a downgrade nearly all the time and brings nothing to the table.
@@arc11honist yeh no I was playing, I know what you mean, smaller Oleds are a long way off yet I think, I know LG is releasing a 42inch next year that everyone is looking forward to but 32 is a ways away I think just because people don't buy OLED typically for monitor use so they keep it TV sized for the vast majority of sales they will make which intend to use as a TV.
@jzo i use a VG27AQL1A and i do see a difference in clarity with backlight strobing when playing apex legends and other fps where you track moving targets. Im also the kind of person that turns off motion blur, DoF and hate FXAA/TAA and certain DLSS implementations cause they all reduce image clarity. So i guess it also depends on how sensitive the person looking at it to shifts in sharpness and what kind of game is being played
I have been using all my monitors at 15- 25% brightness. Currently, My Gigabyte M27Q sits at exactly 15% and it is MORE than bright enough. Would using an OLED display at reduced brightness further reduce the risk of burn in? My instinct would tell me that it would. Is that a correct assumption?
I've heard you call monitor crosshairs "cheat crosshairs" multiple times, but I can't really think of any games that it gives an advantage on, can anyone give some examples?
@@arc11honist Makes sense, I've never played EFT so I'll take your word on that. I assume the guns are at least semi-accurate when not scoped in, is that true?
Can you comment anything on the luminance overshoot/crawling blacks on this monitor? This is an issue on LG WOLED panels. F.e. for me it is the point of decision on dumping my CX and switching to gigabyte if the latter does not have this issue ...
Thanks for a great review as always. Was Cleartype disabled or just optimized using the wizard here? I just don't get how people mange to get so much burn in, have used my GX for over a year as a work monitor (90% of the time) with max brightness and "service menu hacks" and still don't have a hint of burn in (surprisingly enough).
Bought this used for $300 over the weekend. One dead pixel in top left corner but I rarely ever look up there so it's fine. First OLED experience on a screen larger than smartphones so I have no frame of reference to anything else, and this thing is great. I'm primarily using it connected to a laptop for work, and text readability to me is good at 100% windows scale. Granted my desk is only 25" deep, so I'm sitting real close. Doesn't bother me too much since it's about same head movement as my previous dual monitor set up. Other than that, I've been spreading democracy in helldiver's 2 and it seems a little darker than my old monitors, but maybe it's the HDR that I turned on. Have not have time to turn it off yet to test thoroughly.
This is exactly what I thought of this stupid Gigabyte Oled. Moreover here in europe it is much more expensive than the C1 and you can even get the g1 for the price of the fo48u which is just laughable.
Hey man! Love your videos. Could I please get your honest opinion on which monitor I should choose between the Asus PG279QM or the Alienware AW2721D. I really care about the image quality and would like your opinion. 👍
I bought an LG Oled C1 48" for my gaming pc and loved it until the screen burn in started. then I bought another one... few weeks later same thing. I believe this 'monitor' would do the same thing if it has the same panel. I would really like a 48" 144hz QLED 'gaming' tv from Samsung! (currently using the 55" 120hz qled and no burn in for over a month right now)
@@beaprostore You obviously haven't read the review's for OLED's and desktop use. It's all over Reddit and even Linus Techtips shows how bad it is. Please do some research or have some experience in the topic you're talking about before making a reply.
I have seen multiple tests with hundreds of hours of use with no burn in, so either you were extremely unlucky to get 2 faulty panels in a row or you were leaving bright static images on the screens from the minute you took em out of the box!
That's a major fail imo. It's like Gigabyte is saying "Well, they're there if you care. But, we highly doubt that you would in the first place. And, neither do we.". There are a couple of console games that actually run at 4K/120.
HDMI 2.1 does have a new cable called Ultra High Speed HDMI. It can transmit data at 48 Gbps, 2.6x faster than current HDMI cables. Current HDMI 2.0 resolution and refresh rate capabilities cap out at 4K/60 fps or 8K/30 fps, while 2.1 can carry all the way up to 10K/120 fps.Feb 3, 2021
@@roscobosco500 ok I understand that but what I'm asking is what difference does half the bandwidth in this monitor mean compared to an lg c1 for instance? I'm assuming the image is slightly more compressed so does that mean worse resolution, worse colour or something else?
@@faiello19 for 4k 120 hz, you won't get the full color 4:4:4 format if the device doesn't have dsc (display stream compression). That's why bandwidth of 24gbs is a problem with Gigabytes implementation of hdmi 2.1. So basically only newest generation of graphics cards can use Gigabytes hdmi 2.1
The fact that you can't even adjust the monitor's angles etc makes it a complete fail to me. At that size you need to be able to tilt it at the very least. So this is just a castrated TV that's useful for exactly nothing.
my TV that I used for quite a while was LED 32" Sansui that was supposed to be 1080p but I think it was actually 1366x768 I always had to adjust the edges of the picture
As an RTX 20xx series owner I have to disagree about the importance of DisplayPort; that's the reason LG's CX and C1 have been non-starters for me or anyone who got their video card before 2020. But what is the effect of a 24 Gbps HDMI 2.1 port for a console? Does that disable any features or hurt image quality? I'd like to get something that can handle both my PC and PS5.
Using the C7 have lots of Burnin from gaming and pixel refresh doesnt help. It is depend of time used if u play RDR2 for months u end up with the Minimap burn in
5,200 hours so far on my B9 from 2019, first 4,000 were TV/Xbox use at max brightness (previous owner, I got it used) and since then dedicated PC monitor - zero panel issues I used to be afraid of burn in for years, and I do still believe OLED has a limited life span well below a standard LCD but the pixel refresher and built in safeties (even though I've turned most off with the service remote) are good enough that I would expect 5-10 years of heavy use before anything significant becomes apparent. Unless you specifically run it under a worst case scenario like an idiot (as shown in the RTINGS burn in tests)..
I got myself a 48" CX about a year ago for the PS5 I pre-ordered. I'm a little sad that I can get the 48" C1 for as little as $1100, $400 less than I paid for my CX. Oh well, I guess that's the price of adopting stuff sooner. Can't wait to see some affordable mini-LED monitors hit the market.
I think one potential benefit of the Gigabyte is that it's a monitor not a TV so whbe you turn your PC on, your monitor will turn on too. No need to have a TV remote handy.
It's sad that the only people who say oled burn in within a short time frame is a problem is the people who don't own them. Linus gets a dinky panel and that shit burns in and all of a sudden oled is this flimsy panel that can't last at all for pc usage. Owned a c9 and now a cx combined for a year for using as a monitor. No burn it at all. Literally 90% of people who actually own these oleds are saying their panels are fine as well. Burn in can definitely happen and will happen , just not at this exaggerated rate Linus will think you would have. Use your head people.
I bought this based on review and IMO the capped peak full screen brightness under 150nits is in fact excellent. When using a display this large, the overall screen brightness is eye searing on 43" VA and IPS screens at even 300nits due to the sheer size, I have used several and no matter what you will get eye strain after a few hours. Its a literal wall of light. On the OLED however, black background generates zero passive screen emission with small pockets of light and full white is not eye searing, rather caps at 150nis which looks grey and is kind of busted, but I assure you, a 600+ nit 48" HDR flash-bang will send you blind at 1am in a dark room. If you use monitors a lot (ie for work), the OLED is much easier on the eyes and you can bring it down extremely, extremely dim and still be usable. Kind of random but thought I would mention in case someone reads.
did you run into any issues with the switch of messages? I ordered one, it worked out to be 1/2 the price for the C1 and figured to try it for that price point.
So you're telling that OLED is better for office work. I get that but what about the burn in, that is something u don't need to worry on va right.
150 nits is nothing, a lot of displays even in the monitor space and OLED space are already surpassing 1000+ nits. 150 nits just looks eye searing because most IPS monitors aren’t even 100 nits.
@@TheLazyGamers 1000 nit OLEDs? Name some by model.
@@CrazyAboutVinylRecords Sony A95K, Samsung S95B, LG G2 are some of the ones that already surpass 1000 nits (S95B used to get to 1500 nits before it was patched).
Albeit these are small window sizes such as 5-10% windows, but even TV’s like the S95B can hit 500 nits full field.
My Panasonic Plasma from 2008 could reach over 200 nits full field, 150 nits full field is absurdly bad by todays standards
Me: "Man this 48" LG OLED is great, I wish they or someone would make something smaller and slightly cheaper. I would buy it immediately."
Gigabyte: "You said you wanted the exact same thing the competition is offering but higher priced?"
To be fair, that's all gigabyte does, just takes what the market has, cut all available cost and increase the price. In this case, they just bought their own C1 stock and still made it worse.
I think it was more like this.
Gigabyte:
People want an OLED monitor for their computers and not connect a TV. Just copy the C1 and slap a monitor sticker on the box. They will pay even more for it, since they are used to pay thousands of dollars for inferior monitors anyway.
I know, right? I feel like the first company that makes a 32" 4k 120hz monitor for under $1,000 is going to sell a million of them
@@WCIIIReiniger which some people might, if they truly removed all of the TV functionality from that monitor but they didn't - an OLED monitor that don't have any form of ABL at all could be a compelling offer to some but they just have to remove everything but that one thing people wanted gone
The problem isn't really Gigabytes. There *aren't* any smaller OLED panels suitable for PC use on the market, so they worked with what they have. They don't make the panels.
I really want to see a sub 40" OLED monitor or TV. Around the 38" mark is perfect for my deep corner desk
Yeah at 48" its just way too big for most people. I'd love to see one at about 35" or so.
Maybe the panels are still too expensive to produce at these sizes.
or just a 38" ultrawide oled
yeah i really feel like even a 32 inch monitor is huge from a desk viewing distance. My ideal monitor would be an 27inch 1440p 240hz oled(never gonna happen but a man can dream :/ )
@@TheCreator919
What is the point of ultrawide? Its like buying a car but its sliced in two so you just get the middle part LOL.
Thats essentially what ultrawides are, you buy half a monitor.
@@Takashita_Sukakoki 32" is the biggest for normal viewing distances. Any bigger and it's too big. 32 seems to be the sweet spot at around 60cm distance.
Great video!
With the FO48U now down to $799.99, I would argue it's the best monitor on the market in that price range (If you prefer a big screen).
Happy to see another large screen review, my living room PC thanks you for growing into this area.
Console gamers 'own' the living room but not all PC's are desktops, thrilled to see Hardware on Box is coming around to large screens for other PC uses.
In my country LG 48 C1 cost 1370USD and FO48U 2050USD after tax with actual exchange rate. Easy to chose :)
I am not even looking for a monitor but these reviews are still fun and informative to watch. very in depth about their performance. Nice work my australian MATES!!!!!!!!
I have owned the LG CX 48" for over a year and use it as my only PC monitor. It is hands-down the best monitor I have ever owned. The small annoyances such as auto brightness dimming is quickly overlooked when you see the panel in person. I even bought the five year coverage that included image retention, but there is absolutely no image retention to speak of. If you have been on the fence with the LG CX or C1, just do it. I'm not sure why anyone would pay more for the Gigabyte model when they are most likely just getting their panels from LG.
No it's been confirmed. it's literally the same panel from LG, it's the evo one to be specific. Well it definitely feels like they screwed it up a bit.
@@drunkhusband6257 Thanks for your concern, Drunk Husband. You are obviously too inebriated to understand what I wrote. I will certainly enjoy returning it for a newer model should I happen to get burn in.
I was thinking of using it as a monitor with my pc. I have the C1 but pretty much same thing. You got certain settings you need to apply first to prevent burn it?
@@Dracossaint I bet the hardware inside is gonna blow even though they managed to use a EVO screen.
Eeek my C1 has burn in 💀
This review has started to make more sense now that the FO48U is on sale here in Australia. I was looking to pick up an LG C1 48" but they were never below $2000aud. I just picked up my FO48U on sale at $1099aud which makes it almost half the price of the C1. Even when not on sale these monitors are still selling significantly cheaper than the LG tv's. Its hard to pass up an excellent OLED panel for so cheap. ABL hasn't annoyed me as much as I initially though it would and overall Im loving it. I compare it to my CX 55" and it holds up very well. Will have to report back in a couple months to see if Ihave accumulated any burn in. Thanks for the review.
Hi Big Daddy. How did that Review go? I still don't know what to do, whether to go for a more expensive C1, or the cheaper Giga.
@@alejandroromito Hey mate, yea I've had zero issues with the panel and really love it. The only little annoying things is the ABL can be a little aggressive when you have a full screen white, like a web page for example. Otherwise, I've had zero burn in and I've already clocked up a couple hundred hours. Great purchase IMO.
@@TheMaca1991 thanks so much! Did you have that problem that many users talk about, continuous use for more than 4 hours, and the monitor turns off by itself to do maintenance?
@@alejandroromito Nah, so I think mine takes quite a bit of hours before it pops up with that notification. And even if it does, a quick press on the monitors toggle switch removes it, and the process won't start until you power down the monitor, and the process takes about 5 minutes max. It has never just turnt itself off whilst in use.
@@TheMaca1991 that's Sweet to hear! Thanks so much!
I have been rocking the Gigabyte Aorus FV43U for a few months and have been very happy with it. It's not a perfect display, but it hits so many marks and I was able to snag it on sale at Newegg for $900 USD. It works great as a combo productivity/gaming display. I do web development and digital marketing on a MacBook Pro where it is an external display and have a gaming PC and Xbox Series X hooked up to it for gaming. The 43" size is the max I think is practical... I considered a LG C1, but felt the size cost and burn in risk for my use case was too high. Again I recommend to take a look at the Gigabyte Aorus FV43U as a large format monitor as I think it is the best value for money in that space!
I rock a c1 oled. Love it. Highly recommend others look into oled too. it does require some babying with regard to the burn-in. Not much. Just vary window sizes and positions. But the size should be noted. The deep desk requirement is overblown. You can use a regular desk and just treat the display as if it were a multi-monitor setup. If you must have your windows maximized all the time, a 48-in is probably not for you.
For movies, it's great to sit back and watch. I haven't done too much full-screen gaming that requires mouse and keyboard, but it is easy enough to resize your desktop so it only uses part of the screen (not recommend for regular use as it will cause uneven wear across the screen).
LG's 48in C1 oled is the best monitor i have ever owned by a lot. And if you can handle the few (but significant) downsides, oled is the way to go.
I use a LG OLED C1 65 inches with my 5800X3D & 4090 PC and still I'm so unbelievably happy with it!
I set screensaver to one minute and there's absolutely no risk for any burn-in!
An incredible and informative review, as always. thank you so much for this!
I have the c1, yes 48" is to big for most desks. Mine is on a floor stand, would have mounted it to a wall if I wasn't renting. Best tv/monitor I've owned
Damn you’re renting and buying 1500 dollar monitors 😬
Do you use it mostly as a media consumption monitor or more of a static desktop monitor?
@@abnr1983 As a static desktop monitor it is a bad idea lol. It is rubbish at fine text for PC.
Thank you for including input lag comparisons in your reviews, it’s why i watch your videos. I hope you guys continue to do so in the future (i noticed a recent upload didn’t have an imput lag comparison)
Wish you went more into how the KVM feature works. That's a major difference between the panels for PC users.
a tip for anyone concerned about using such a large monitor on your desk, personally I would just opt for a vesa floor stand and move the monitor further away and you end up with even more desk real-estate when compared to a traditional setup
TY
Bought one a month ago and I'm so happy with it. (It's cheaper in Australia compared to the C1 and I have a rtx2000 series so dont have HDMI 2.1)
Still way worse than the C1. But if you are happy then it is ok.
@@geiers6013 atm, FO48U cost about 750 USD in Australia, which is brilliant
@@orangearancia9885 For that price it is a no brainer. Where I live in europe the C1 is typically much cheaper.
So happy HU did a review on this as I was seriously considering it. I didn't know the HDMI 2.1 was half-speed. That completely kills it for me.
EIZO says: in an office with normal brightness of 300-500 lux, the display brightness should be adjusted to around 100-150 cd / m2.
Usually a gamer or a person watching a movie does it in even less lighted environments.
So, set the brightness of your OLED to level 38 and forget about the burn in, otherwise buy an LCD.
ive legit been looking for this review for weeks now and the day i pull the trigger and buy one you release this this afternoon lol
i recently replaced an alienware aw3821dw with an LG C1 and its been amazing, most retailers offer some kind of extra warranty or protection that covers the dreaded fear of burn in aswell so its always the smart option to take that out, if it burns in at 12 months replace it, if you manage to get it to the 4 year mark before panel issues start showing then get it replaced...likely with a newer model too, its a no lose situation but only if you take out the extra warranty.
cant speak highly enough of the C1, the ps5 just works, my 3080 pc just works, movies... just sublime, HDR awesome... the ultrawide i had was great but image quality isnt really that close at all, OLED is amazing.
I did the same exact thing. I replaced my aw3821dw and would never go back after buying the LG C1. It works great with my RTX 3090
I'm used to my c1 48" now after using it for a month. Wish the stand was a bit smaller though. OLED pixel brightness at 100 and brightness at 50. Logo dimming at high with a black screen saver. So far so good. Got a 4 year warranty that covers burn in too.
@𝘿!𝙘𝙠 Riding ǤƗяℓ Violet that's what I did lol
I'm still waiting for a 32" inch 4k OLED high refresh rate monitor....
Gigabyte M32U is worth the $799 USD
@@MotoCampAdv It's an IPS, not OLED.
@@anakondase still a good value
@@MotoCampAdv Perhaps. That wasn't what the post you replied to asked for though.
lg has one, if u have 4,000 plus to blow
Couple of things ; HDMI 2.1 is pretty much unsupported in anything other than Windows and will likely continue to be the case due the HDMI consortia basically saying DSC can't be implemented in the open. This makes anything that needs to be fed by HDMI2.1 to achieve i.e 8k@60 or above or VRR impossible on an Operating system using Open Standards drivers i.e Linux/FreeBSD. Especially concerning given SteamDeck and other platforms. In summary the inclusion of Display Port is the real feature here - and I was uncertain how you were driving the panel from the review. I strongly recommend you do testing on a modern Linux Distro (i.e Fedora etc) so compare what is broken in the various vendor implementations as part of your reviews. VRR can be implemented over HDMI2.0 but is not standard so it would be interesting to know which panels the vendors have taken time to make sure Open compatibility is implemented.
There is a potential work around by using DP1.4->HDMI2.1 active adaptors for at least High refresh rate support, however VRR won't be negotiated through these adaptors.
Good points but I think covering more niche topics would be best handled by a channel that specializes in niche topics. Then again not very many channels I have come across go into the depth that Hardware Unboxed does. I would love it if they included some kind of measurement on ecosystem interoperability.
I use the C1 as a secondary monitor. It's amazing. I use a black background and no toolbars on it...its just a black screen. Just get the C1.
I have a 55inch c1 and I never game on it... I primarily use my AW3821
@@drunkhusband6257 dont like the best display tech available? Cant afford it? Ill send my CX to your moms basement when it starts to burn in.
@@drunkhusband6257 that’s on you I have had doles over the past few years and neevr got burn in even with gaming tried the whole mini led tech this year and went back to getting a c1 oled that tech still doesn’t touch oled episcally looking at them side by side
I really wish the prices came down a great deal with a 32' option was out there, somehow the few 32' models are way way way over priced. but its good information on how the segment is progressing. thank you for that.
currently the gigabyte is about 700 dollars cheaper and a great buy. In Australia costing about 1099 and lg c1 costing close to 2000. Wish it was the opposite but at the moment gigabyte is the way to go. Update: So i've bought two, one for series x and one for the computer. bought both close to 1100 AUD . Awesome buy.
The funny thing is, my last 2 monitors I have used have been VA panels and they have both suffered from burn in after 1.5yrs. I recently purchased an LG C2 48” as the replacement of my 49” ultra-wide monitor that failed. I use my monitor for both work and home use. Work/productivity for 8-10hrs a day M-F and then I might PC game later that evening for 2-4hrs. We will see how long this TV lasts as a monitor. I have a 5yr protection plan that covers burn in and there is nowhere in the terms and conditions that states I can’t use the TV as a monitor or uses the caveat outside of normal use in their verbiage. The only stipulation they specifically place is an indoor TV that is used outdoors is not covered. I called the support line twice and verified with two reps and a supervisor that an OLED TV can be used as a monitor and would be covered under their plan. Time will tell
I'm going to ask the important question here - does it blow up? That seems to be the ongoing theme for Gigabyte's products of recent going from power supplies through to graphics cards and more recently tweated 'gaming chairs'.
Thanks Steve
Don't you know that all Taiwanese products blow up?
@@benjy117 You... should probably check every manufacturer of every computer component you own. Short of Intel, who has their own fab, everything in your computer is from Taiwan unless you have some ungodly low quality shit like Biostar or Gainward from China. ASUS, MSI, Gigabyte, ASRock, EVGA, XFX, Sapphire and PowerColor are all Taiwan-producing companies. AMD produces all their chips in Taiwan. Nvidia produces all their data center chips in Taiwan, but produces their consumer chips in Korea. And the list goes on with sub-component manufactures like Realtek, Broadcom, Ralink, ASMedia, Ricoh, etc.
The display port lets you get 4k 120hz on the M1 series of apple products, which don't support 4k 120 over HDMI 2.1, even with display port to HDMI adapters.
Man I wish I could find a glossy 27 inch monitor. Really hate the snow flake effect of the anti reflective coating on matte displays. Makes the sharpness of 4K look way less noticeable and impressive.
Yeah its a shame that manufacturers are so anti glossy on the lower sizes. I hate the matte look on 100% of the monitors available now.
Thats probably why i dont see any difference between 27 1080p and 27 1440p.
Glossy loooks so much better
Great review as always but I would hesitate to Call the c1 hdmi 2.1 “full bandwidth” since it isn’t the full 48, it’s 40.
While I'd tend to agree (it shouldn't be called full bandwidth), in practice the only effect will be to reduce the maximum colour depth from 12-bit to 10-bit, which users shouldn't be able to notice in practice. So, don't call it full bandwidth because it isn't, but it's not nearly as big of a problem as a 24 Gbps max.
14:34 I have seen on reddit that most daily desktop users of the (CX/C1) have their OLED light brightness set to 25~35 for a range that is just above or under 100nits.
This is the very key setting to use 48" OLEDs as a daily desktop monitor, Linus set his brightness to 80 as he said in his Burn-in video. (youtube hWrFEU_605g?t=373).
And some Techtubers have their 6 months after review as desktop use, it is very much possible to use this as a daily desktop monitor; but you need to have the settings right on the TV and Windows 10.
The idea to lit up your room so much its like sitting on a sunny beach in Havana, is stupid you do not need a bright room, the idea that we damage our eyes if our room is too dark and the display is too bright, it does in fact have nothing to do with that but the blue light emitted from the display thats actually the danger, and OLED's these days barely has any blue light emission thats dangerous. So its a moot point, I dunno whats more logical, buy 2000 euro display just to get it bright enough, or buy 10 euro blinds for your fucking windows.
@@MrFujisawa I hope it is clear at LG Electronics that they need a desktop mode with like +100nits, it solves so much annoying issues with the picture quality.
10:38 The power consumption will also be a lot lower, my guess would be like 60-70Watts when set at 100nits settings.
@Mr Fujisawa - You have any clue how many Watts the TV is using at 38 brightness at 120nits?
@@SMGJohn
by Andy Bassett Feb 5, 2020
LG Display has received official verification of the low blue light emissions of its OLED TV displays from leading global safety certification company, UL.
The ‘Low Blue Light Display’ Verified Mark from UL (originally Underwriters Laboratories Inc) is granted to display products when their blue light emission meets the “risk exempt” standard (100W/sr/m2) set by the International Electrotechnical Commission (IEC).
During testing, LG Display’s OLED TV panels were found to emit 50 percent lower blue light than the standard, or about 60 percent of blue light that the same-size premium LCD TV displays on the market are reported to emit.
However, the verification raises a few questions. Last year LG Display were awarded ‘Eye Comfort’ certification for low blue light parameters in its OLED TV displays by TUV Rheinland, a similar inspection and certification outfit and it's not clear why LG Display has moved from TUV to UL in just 12 months.
Dr. Chang-Ho Oh, Executive Vice President & Head of the TV Business Unit at LG Display was in charge of putting the company’s OLED panels though both certification programmes.
It’s also not clear whether the UL validation is only relevant to the latest 2020 range of OLED panels or if it supersedes the TUV certification across all recent OLED ranges. It’s possible the UL badge is more well known as a mark of safety than TUV in the US market where several TV manufacturers plan to release OLED models for the first time.
While the details of the testing and the rationale for the change in the testing partner remain unknown, the bottom line is that LG Display’s OLED panels have certifiably lower blue light emissions which will result in reduced eye fatigue and sleep disturbance for viewers.
Given increasing awareness among consumers about the effects of overexposure to screens that emit too much blue light and the rise in ‘Dark Modes’ on devices such as mobile phones to help ease strain on the eyes, LG Display expects that the UL Verified Mark will further underscore the value of OLED TVs to consumers. Since 2020 will be a year that sees new LG Display clients such as Sharp, Vizio and Skyworth all releasing OLED TVs, the company will encourage its global OLED TV brands and distributors to use the Mark.
Dr. Chang-Ho Oh said, “This UL Verified Mark makes it clear that LG Display’s OLED TV displays exceed the highest international standards with regard to eye safety. These OLED displays are already touted for their unmatched picture quality and design flexibility in the market, and now we expect that OLED’s recognized value in terms of eye health will further convince consumers to opt for OLED TVs down the road.”
Mirko Bautz, Vice President of Global Accounts at UL, added, “UL empowers trust by helping demonstrate how a brand and its products are responsible and worthy of consumer confidence.” He went on, "As a globally recognized company with deep experience and expertise in the field of test evaluation, we are excited that our methods confirmed that LG Display is delivering on their claims.”
With increasing numbers of OLED TVs predicted to be sold over the next three years (shipments are forecast to grow to 5.4 million units in 2020, increasing to 7.3 million units in 2021 and over 12 million units in 2023), what do AVForums readers think of having the ‘Low Blue Light Display’ badge for TVs?
Linus also used the pixel refresher feature and it basically removed all his "burn-in" which was really just image retention.
@@drunkhusband6257 I have my monitor at 10% when reading on a white page.
Do you mean to imply that the Gigabyte monitor uses the newer EVO panel? the later model C1's use EVO panel with the brightness limited in software. You can go into the service menu and change the product number to G1 to unlock the higher brightness (though LG may have already addressed this with a firmware update). I have the service remote for mine and verified that mine has the EVO panel but have not bothered to modify anything in there.
I might disable the automatic brightness limiter, though. I don't care about power usage, I don't see how that would impact burn in (as burn in is most noticeable with differences in emissivity of adjacent pixels caused my unequal wear). Only thing I can imagine it causing problems with is an undersized and overloaded power supply.
0:40 how dare you show us such epic wallpaper without a link to it. Please share it that would look amazing on my LG CX 48 desktop monitor :)
I have C7 and B9 Oleds. So they are now 2 and 4 years old. The B9 is used mainly for gaming, sports and youtube and shows zero signs of burn in. The C7 is in the living room and is used mostly to watch tv series and movies and as finns most of our content comes with subtitles. The C7 has started to show signs of diminished ability to reach bright scenes with the pixels around the area where subtitles usually are so for example if there is a red scene you can clearly see that all the pixels in the bottom part of the screen can't keep up. It's a abit annoying to me, but my wife didn't even notice before I told her.
Can't wait for 32"ish oled monitors !
It is a shame that 1440p will not catch this train, but really looking forward for 4k oled pc gaimin !
There's the LG 32EP950 and ASUS PA32DC (both using a JOLED 32" 4K 60Hz panel) but they're not really gaming monitors. According to DisplayNinja, AUO has a prototype 32" 4K 144Hz OLED panel but there's nothing available to consumers yet. Hopefully next year we'll start seeing these, but expect costs to be high!
By the time OLED monitors hit the mainstream, graphics cards should be powerful enough to render native 4K without a sweat. A 1440p OLED monitor would be real nice to have right now though, for sure.
@@konga382 TBH, my 6800 XT already handles most of what I play at 4K at potentially much higher than 60 FPS, thus I'd be quite happy to have a 4K 144Hz OLED right now. The main problem with that is lack of DP 2.0, which will necessitate a GPU upgrade (or sidegrade) to take full advantage.
I hate it when the stands are on the ends of the display, I prefer a centered stand for versatility on placement
Ha-ha, that is nervous situation th-cam.com/video/xCe-FToO49c/w-d-xo.html
I have my C1 on a Pearlesmith TV stand that is unobtrusive and actually kind of nice looking.
I'd like to see a 34" UWQHD OLED for gaming. cold not care less about 40+" screens.
Same here, can't decide between LG 34GN850 and 34GP950, main difference is that the GP950 has better brightness and color accuracy, not to mention that the price difference is $500+ between them, and the other thing is that the 34GP38 is impossible to get. Would love an OLED 34" monitor though, I'd save up as much as I could for a quality one.
@@hmmmyes6934 Would be happy with a 27" 1440p OLED.
I'm on the flip side. I can't stand smaller than 50 inch and have two 50inch TVs as my monitors. Was a pain trying to find a 120hz for one though
@@allyourfuturebelongstochina My cousin has a 27" 1440p IPS monitor, after trying it I thought I'd definitely buy one, but then I got the opportunity to try out my friends LG 34GN850. I legit didn't ever think a monitor could be so immersive lmao.
@@Android-ng1wn I'm still saying it and am lamenting the fact that the new pixel 6 is so much bigger than the 5. I hate not reaching everything when handling my phone with one hand.
that minitor on in this video on my c1 looks amazing
This model is on sale right now (April 4th) at MWave for only $1099. I wish I had the money to buy it right now! It was 1899 at release. EDIT! I’m picking one up at this price!!
I have the LG C1 as a TV and loved it so much I bought a 48" to consolidate my TV/ / dual monitor setup. Like I said, I love it as a TV but hate it as a monitor. There are probably quite a few gripes people have but (as a programmer) my 2 were:
1: Sometimes the text looks blocky or to thin and has extra white around the letters making readability difficult.
2: LG has an OLED protection feature to dim the monitor for static content . Usually when I'm coding, it dims on me and is annoying. Even when I'm typing constantly. I guess the color scheme is not changing enough to trigger a significant change so the display dims to protect the features.
In general, I think I'll never get an OLED as a monitor. I'll switch back to my 2K non OLED monitor and wait for a new technology for monitors.
Your text problem sounds like sharpening halos. Was the sharpness/"super resolution" turned off? A lot of times these features are on by default but they actually make things look way worse.
I picked up the Aorus FV43U because 48” just seemed too big and I was nervous about running an OLED as a desktop for 10 hours per day. I have to say the 43U has been amazing!
I have one too; there's a lot of management in changing the modes for each thing you are doing, but for the price, its pretty good!
Great review as always. Would like to ask, if you have any plans to review the AOC AG274QXM. It's DisplayHDR 1000 Certified at a price point of around 1100 Euros, which does make it very appealing in my opinion. I don't know how availability is in Australia, but I believe it should start appearing in Germany at the start of November. Thank you and have a great day!
This is on sale for $799.99 at the moment. Would you recommend it at its current lower price over the similar priced 4k 120/144Hz computer monitors?
the only problem with this monitor in practice is that its not 240/360hz. Going from 60 to this was slightly underwhelming at first, but the motion clarity in fps games puts it ahead of all non oled panels below say.....180ish fps. Buy this then upgrade to the 240hz model that is going to arrive behind the c3 or 4 lg series. Presumably gigabyte will still be able to offer a significantly lower price by relying on dsc like this model.
@@stefanrenn-jones9452 Are you high bro!? You’re complaining that it’s not 360hz at 4K and OLED? There’s so many high refresh rate monitors for esports games and other FPS’s. This is not aimed at that market. This is for movies and games where graphical fidelity is preferred over ultra-high refresh rate. This is perfect for games with ray tracing and gorgeous visuals.
6:08 What LTT shows that it is not a "risk", but it defently will burn-in. Risk is kind of probability which may occur, may not.
Common CGI artist spent lots of hours per day working (with lot of static UI elements), and the burn-in will be even worse then LTT has.
The entire Aorus monitor lineup: "It not a bad product when seen in isolation"
So, I found this panel (Aorus 48"OLED) on Newegg current price is $1199 (US) with a $200 off coupon code AND an additional $200 mail-in rebate card, bringing the total cost (assuming there are no issues with getting the rebate card) at $799!!!! I've made the purchase and am supposed to get it on Friday. I guess I will find out if it was worth the price (and worth buying it from Newegg with all the bad publicity they have been getting lately).
Quick update as someone owns this, the display has a very tedious panel protection feature that anyone using/owning this will know and hate. This is basically where reviews still fall short and "old skool" owners forums are way better resources of information. After about 4 hours of use or so, it will force off the display and the LED will flash for 5 minutes exactly, this "panel protection" feature is not particularly welcome at the end of a PUBG round, or a CSGO match, almost makes this monitor unusable for any competitive gaming. Even work, as I had this monitor go into panel protection when I was on a Zoom call. Busted boys, straight busted. Hence the discounts as I think this is probably going to be one of the most returned products ever. It looks amazing, but using it is really annoying.
Hi there. And was there any news on this issue with any firmware? Any official statement?
Reading this pretty much sold me against one. Yikes
Just bought this on scorptec for 1099, very pleased considering it's half the price of the c1
Aren't there other OLED tv's with similar specs, but with HDR? like the Philips 48OLED806?
But it's not a "gaming" monitor 😂
The tv's don't have the low latency. At best you might get under 8ms on a tv vs the just over 1ms with this monitor.
I game with my PC and PS5 on a standard 49-inch tv. I mostly use a controller and (for me) it's proven to be a nice setup.
Sony A80J (More expensive. Better upscaling of content that isn't native 4k. Less feature rich in terms of VRR).
Vizio OLED (Cheaper, with a LOT of compromises).
Glad I got the C1 48”. I’m currently running it at 1440p without display scaling so there are black bars all around the picture. I’m essentially left with a 32” 1440p 120hz OLED, which is awesome. You do of course need the space to put the TV on your desk.
It's unfathomable how Sony and Gigabyte buy LG panels, make a worse software and hardware offering (no VRR/smart TV/upscaling/few HDMI 2.1 ports), and charge a higher price.
I do like the stand on Gigabyte though: my LG48's stand eats up like 20 or 30cm in depth
Its all about DP, so you can get 4k120 without HDMI 2.1 source.
Its basic economics, actually. This is not a TV, but a gaming monitor. Therefore, its market is much smaller (intensified by its high price, but even at 500 dollars less only few people would buy it, since its practical use case is so limited) and its price will be higher, since a smaller range of units sold will have to cover costs for R&D, marketing, production and so on. People keep complaining about how (gaming) monitors are so much more expensive relative to the features offered when compared to TVs - this is the reason right here.
For the FO48U specifically, you'll also have to add the factor of street pricing to having been able to drop yet, since the model reached the market only recently.
If you can afford a 48 inch OLED, you can afford a VESA supported stand for like 50 euro or 100 euro for a gas arm.
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Do not connect it then to the internet then LOL....
for my use gigabyte model will fit like a glove , as a developer and casual gamer having DP / USB type c / KVM switch built in is everything that I wanted so I think it's depends of the use cases
hope they make a 42 inch using the latest panel from LG C2 line
How has the monitor been as a developer?
Even the C1 is hundreds of euro's cheaper here. There's literally 0 reason to buy a gaming monitor if it's the best picture quality that you're after.
Also in can run 120hz on oled and you wint have issues with tearing as the pixels react instantaneously its already given you get a non tearing and picture quality at the same time. Its just not for productivity usage and will surely geta a burn in.
Was wondering this as well! Thanks for this
1:28 At least someone remembers the turing series, my poor 1660 🥲
I have this panel, goes on sale occasionally for around $100 off. It gets used for a variety of tasks (multi windowed productivity, PC/PS5 games, movies, etc). It is more than bright enough from about a meter away unless you are in full sun with a very dark scene. Recommendations - install new firmware, brightness 100% use windows sdr/hdr adjustment to your liking, if you hear clicking between restarts/sleep cycles let the compensation cycle run (5-10 minutes), panel protection completely gets rid of image retention (power down with joystick, takes ~ hour). It's an alternative to the LG bloat you get with a C1. Review is correct in regards to price. Inflation and profit margin are definite drawbacks.
Hey well, it's the same price and has display port, might actually be a solid option if you're using a monitor for this. Pray to the burn-in gods.
Best used as a "secondary" gaming screen. DO all regular desktop work on a normal monitor, then move over to the OLED for gaming (space dependent OFC).
You can get LG C1 for 300 less
@@8bitchiptune420 and with bluetooth you can't turn off, ads and an insanely bad menu that you can only use with a remote. No USB hub, no displayport. It ought to be cheaper for the garbage user experience.
@@8bitchiptune420 Yeah I found $100 less, $2200 for this and $2100 for the C1 (AUD). It's pretty niche but if your GPU can do 4K and doesn't have HDMI 2.1 (there's a handful of GPUs like that), you may still consider this, shame it doesn't completely match the C1 though that would've been nice.
It has worse backlight strobing, worse brightness, less features and overall just so slightly slower in all input lag and motion tests (although, to be honest, most definitely imperceptible in this last point), and is slightly more expensive. Literally only reason to buy it is if you need a display like this now and don't have a hdmi 2.1 graphics card.
I was actually wondering about this. Thanks!
It's not perfect, but we're finally seeing OLED monitors come to the market so you know other companies will follow suit. The fact Gigabyte is fairly new to the monitor market and already have so many monitors with such great price to performance is awesome. Can't wait until we get ultra wide or 32" OLED monitors.
I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but anything smaller than a 48" Oled monitor isn't happening. Oled scales upin size just fine, but anything under 48" isn't likely to happen as the technology isn't cost effective to make at smaller sizes.
@@Randoir11 LG literally already sells a 32 inch 4k OLED display, the 32EP950-B.
@@Randoir11 Don't phones already have OLED screens at similar resolutions to 1080p and 1440p?
_such great price to performance is awesome_ burn-in is also awasome. But not an issue if you don't work on PC.
@@Randoir11 Well your comment aged like milk lmao
After watching some videos from colleagues before watching this, can I just point out that the quality of your videos is just the best,... by far. And I mean the quality of the image, you guys must have a great setup. What do you use for a camera and for lighting?
Now this is a review i've been dying to see. This and the Eve Spectrum :D
Excellent review, specially its highlighting how it does not compete well with the C1, even if it performs relatively well for an Oled. Exact same panel clearly will not guarantee same feature set and/or same end user experience
It does not even perform good for an Oled compared to even last years Lg Oleds.
Is it possible to test an old school CRT monitor, just to see how it compares with our modern monitors?
up until early 2010s FPS pro players still played on them. Many of them could hit 240hz. Problem is they had to reduce their resolution to reach that. So it wasn't that sought after back then. Lack of ghosting and no response lag was the real reason people kept them. They also blasted your eyes with way more radiation than is socially acceptable nowadays(you get more from many sources now anyway) .
Here in my country the non OLED Aorus 43" inch monitor cost double the price of the LG C1 48.
On sale for 780 bucks, so tempting
TLDR: Just by the LG C1, the Gigabyte uses LG's OLED panel but somehow makes it worse, which is due to the processing behind the scenes. Plus you can use the LG as a full on TV.
Doesn't pretty much everyone in the world still use LG's OLED panels?? Or are there other vendors making their own panels??
The bandwidth limited hdmi ports are a joke lol
I'm looking forward to the 2021 roundup. I'll be buying a new monitor soon as it the roundup is out. Either 1440p 240hz or 4K 165hz, 27 or 32".
i have three 4k and two 2k, if i had to pick one id get faster 2k (for my 3090)
oh yeah, one of those 4k is 55" CX 🤗
@@AlexanderBukh nice screens. I have a the CX 77" in my front room
@@AlexanderBukh though, I recently just bought the Hisense U9G for my cinema/gaming room and it's actually a better TV than the LG.
Another thing i would note if you ever plan on using streaming services go with the LG. It might not seem like a big deal at first but some streaming services like Disney+ have terrible support on pc and will limit you to 720p streaming. It much better to use the built-in smart tv apps to ensure you will get 4k Dolby Vision for that content that supports it.
I would recommend that too, but they can purchase Google Chromecast 4k with Google tv as i have done, and problem solved for every monitor and tv 💪🏻
I can understand why the peak brightness is so low since they want to delay burn-in, even LED light bulb get noticeable dimmer after a year of use.
It's okay for us in Britain, the atmosphere is equally dim, OLED looks fine for us xaxa
One other benefit for the Gigabyte that wasn't mentioned here is that (at least in the Australian market) the Gigabyte comes with a 3 year warranty, while the LG base warranty is only 1 year.
I think that could be a pretty major factor for a lot of potential buyers who are considering that two products, especially considering that these days the Gigabyte is also a good $500 or so cheaper at advertised prices.
I had one for less than a month and have already experienced burn in. It’s very visible on solid white backgrounds. The picture is amazing but am shocked how quick the burn in occurred.
@@Dmwntkp99 FO48U
How is it now and how were You using it? Cheers :)
@@tivtag I decided to return it. I play flight simulator mostly and it burnt in the aircrafts instrument panel. Could only notice it on solid white or light colored backgrounds.
@@czwhat328 Wow, that was fast. Are you looking out for a mini led panel now?
I bought the C1 a few weeks ago and I'm very happy with my desicion. In the End with a Cashback Option it set me back €1200. The RTX 2080 in my pc limits the display to 60Hz with HDR, but i don't need more when playing scenic single player games. You can turn on 120hz mode, there you Notice that the Colors look a bit off, but thats not a Problem for me, when I'm playing Valorant or CS:GO.
For Movies I use the the Netflix App on the TV and there I was blown away, when i first saw some Dolby Vison Content. It just looks so damn awesome.
You can just use 1440p120hz with hdr. I did this to before I bought a hdmi 2.1 gpu. 1440p still looks decent if you are not sitting very close to your C1. Especially in csgo and valorant I would say 120hz is far more important than 4k. Also hdr is more important than 4k I think, so I would definitely play at 1440p.
Can you guys please do a review of the ACER X34 GS or x34 S or both would be great :) thank you im in the market for one so hard to choose
Why would anyone use HDR on desktop outside games/videos?
Because you have to turn on HDR in windows and adjust Nvidia settings every time you want to use it. I typically just leave HDR on all the time
@@DarkReturns1 Then turn it on or off before playing a game, unless you're switching between HDR/non-HDR games 10 times a day it's a much better alternative then leaving it on for desktop where it's just a downgrade nearly all the time and brings nothing to the table.
Just ordered the Fo48u. Can’t wait to game on it
how long do you reckon until we have 32" OLED 144hz 4K monitor with backlight strobing
very very very long indeed since there's no backlight to strobe.
@@jinx20001 ahh jeez sure black frame insertion. u know what im talking about
@jzo are u also memeing? didn't u see how much it reduced blur for this monitor at 11:08
@@arc11honist yeh no I was playing, I know what you mean, smaller Oleds are a long way off yet I think, I know LG is releasing a 42inch next year that everyone is looking forward to but 32 is a ways away I think just because people don't buy OLED typically for monitor use so they keep it TV sized for the vast majority of sales they will make which intend to use as a TV.
@jzo i use a VG27AQL1A and i do see a difference in clarity with backlight strobing when playing apex legends and other fps where you track moving targets. Im also the kind of person that turns off motion blur, DoF and hate FXAA/TAA and certain DLSS implementations cause they all reduce image clarity. So i guess it also depends on how sensitive the person looking at it to shifts in sharpness and what kind of game is being played
I have been using all my monitors at 15- 25% brightness. Currently, My Gigabyte M27Q sits at exactly 15% and it is MORE than bright enough.
Would using an OLED display at reduced brightness further reduce the risk of burn in?
My instinct would tell me that it would.
Is that a correct assumption?
I've heard you call monitor crosshairs "cheat crosshairs" multiple times, but I can't really think of any games that it gives an advantage on, can anyone give some examples?
uh escape from taekov maybe
games that dont have crosshairs probably, like csgo with the awp
I'm pretty sure he's just meme-ing, he's smart enough to know it doesn't give an advantage and is more for personal preference.
@@arc11honist Makes sense, I've never played EFT so I'll take your word on that.
I assume the guns are at least semi-accurate when not scoped in, is that true?
@@GodsGreatestDrunkDriver Fair enough,but I'm not so sure about that example -- isn't the awp quite inaccurate when noscoping?
Can you comment anything on the luminance overshoot/crawling blacks on this monitor? This is an issue on LG WOLED panels. F.e. for me it is the point of decision on dumping my CX and switching to gigabyte if the latter does not have this issue ...
Thanks for a great review as always. Was Cleartype disabled or just optimized using the wizard here? I just don't get how people mange to get so much burn in, have used my GX for over a year as a work monitor (90% of the time) with max brightness and "service menu hacks" and still don't have a hint of burn in (surprisingly enough).
You give me hope that my C1 will last many years. I try to avoid doing desktop work on it. Anything with a task bar or static icons makes me nervous.
Bought this used for $300 over the weekend. One dead pixel in top left corner but I rarely ever look up there so it's fine. First OLED experience on a screen larger than smartphones so I have no frame of reference to anything else, and this thing is great. I'm primarily using it connected to a laptop for work, and text readability to me is good at 100% windows scale. Granted my desk is only 25" deep, so I'm sitting real close. Doesn't bother me too much since it's about same head movement as my previous dual monitor set up.
Other than that, I've been spreading democracy in helldiver's 2 and it seems a little darker than my old monitors, but maybe it's the HDR that I turned on. Have not have time to turn it off yet to test thoroughly.
This is exactly what I thought of this stupid Gigabyte Oled. Moreover here in europe it is much more expensive than the C1 and you can even get the g1 for the price of the fo48u which is just laughable.
Hey man! Love your videos. Could I please get your honest opinion on which monitor I should choose between the Asus PG279QM or the Alienware AW2721D. I really care about the image quality and would like your opinion. 👍
I bought an LG Oled C1 48" for my gaming pc and loved it until the screen burn in started. then I bought another one... few weeks later same thing. I believe this 'monitor' would do the same thing if it has the same panel. I would really like a 48" 144hz QLED 'gaming' tv from Samsung! (currently using the 55" 120hz qled and no burn in for over a month right now)
you`re kidding, right? burnin in 1 month usage .. LOL Come on kid, and another burnin within weeks.. period cant read anymore
@@beaprostore You obviously haven't read the review's for OLED's and desktop use. It's all over Reddit and even Linus Techtips shows how bad it is. Please do some research or have some experience in the topic you're talking about before making a reply.
I have seen multiple tests with hundreds of hours of use with no burn in, so either you were extremely unlucky to get 2 faulty panels in a row or you were leaving bright static images on the screens from the minute you took em out of the box!
Such a nice review! Thank you!…it would be interesting to compare the LGC1/Aorus F048U with the Odyssey neo G9 (with most recent updated frimware)!
Gigabyte again with the 24Gbps HDMI 2.1 ports, wtf? I thought on this model at least they'd have the full 48Gbps...
Could you explain what the difference between 24 and 48 means? I was looking to get the m32u for my pc and ps5 but that also only does 24gbps
That's a major fail imo. It's like Gigabyte is saying "Well, they're there if you care. But, we highly doubt that you would in the first place. And, neither do we.".
There are a couple of console games that actually run at 4K/120.
HDMI 2.1 does have a new cable called Ultra High Speed HDMI. It can transmit data at 48 Gbps, 2.6x faster than current HDMI cables. Current HDMI 2.0 resolution and refresh rate capabilities cap out at 4K/60 fps or 8K/30 fps, while 2.1 can carry all the way up to 10K/120 fps.Feb 3, 2021
@@roscobosco500 ok I understand that but what I'm asking is what difference does half the bandwidth in this monitor mean compared to an lg c1 for instance? I'm assuming the image is slightly more compressed so does that mean worse resolution, worse colour or something else?
@@faiello19 for 4k 120 hz, you won't get the full color 4:4:4 format if the device doesn't have dsc (display stream compression). That's why bandwidth of 24gbs is a problem with Gigabytes implementation of hdmi 2.1. So basically only newest generation of graphics cards can use Gigabytes hdmi 2.1
Awesome, crazy detailed review. Thank you!!
The fact that you can't even adjust the monitor's angles etc makes it a complete fail to me. At that size you need to be able to tilt it at the very least. So this is just a castrated TV that's useful for exactly nothing.
Do you tilt your tv?
@@x9x9x9x9 do you sit right in front of your TV?
my TV that I used for quite a while was LED 32" Sansui that was supposed to be 1080p but I think it was actually 1366x768 I always had to adjust the edges of the picture
Alt title: "Can a Gigabyte-branded LG OLED beat the LG OLED?"
As an RTX 20xx series owner I have to disagree about the importance of DisplayPort; that's the reason LG's CX and C1 have been non-starters for me or anyone who got their video card before 2020. But what is the effect of a 24 Gbps HDMI 2.1 port for a console? Does that disable any features or hurt image quality? I'd like to get something that can handle both my PC and PS5.
Using the C7 have lots of Burnin from gaming and pixel refresh doesnt help.
It is depend of time used if u play RDR2 for months u end up with the Minimap burn in
I can not believe oleds burn in constant static elements. That's a monumental discovery.
The newer models do not have image retention. I've been using the CX for over a year as a PC monitor and no image retention at all.
5,200 hours so far on my B9 from 2019, first 4,000 were TV/Xbox use at max brightness (previous owner, I got it used) and since then dedicated PC monitor - zero panel issues
I used to be afraid of burn in for years, and I do still believe OLED has a limited life span well below a standard LCD but the pixel refresher and built in safeties (even though I've turned most off with the service remote) are good enough that I would expect 5-10 years of heavy use before anything significant becomes apparent. Unless you specifically run it under a worst case scenario like an idiot (as shown in the RTINGS burn in tests)..
I got myself a 48" CX about a year ago for the PS5 I pre-ordered. I'm a little sad that I can get the 48" C1 for as little as $1100, $400 less than I paid for my CX. Oh well, I guess that's the price of adopting stuff sooner. Can't wait to see some affordable mini-LED monitors hit the market.
Does this Gigabyte product also act as a rice cooker like their PSUs?
I think one potential benefit of the Gigabyte is that it's a monitor not a TV so whbe you turn your PC on, your monitor will turn on too. No need to have a TV remote handy.
How about the gigabyte FV43U?
It's sad that the only people who say oled burn in within a short time frame is a problem is the people who don't own them. Linus gets a dinky panel and that shit burns in and all of a sudden oled is this flimsy panel that can't last at all for pc usage. Owned a c9 and now a cx combined for a year for using as a monitor. No burn it at all. Literally 90% of people who actually own these oleds are saying their panels are fine as well. Burn in can definitely happen and will happen , just not at this exaggerated rate Linus will think you would have. Use your head people.
He has it at 80% brightness that’s heaps, most owners use
@@inmypaants Well that settles it, not buying a TV or monitor where I have to turn down the brightness when it's already dim. Thanks.