Tyranid Detachment Review - Unending Swarm

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  • 🦟 Tyranid Codex 10th Edition: The Unending Swarm Detachment Deep Dive! 🦟
    Welcome, Hive Mind enthusiasts and Warhammer 40K fans! Today, we're delving into one of the six new Tyranid detachments-The Undending Swarm. Get your synaptic links ready; this is a detailed review you won't want to miss!
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    🔥 What's in the Video:
    1️⃣ Detachment Rule - Insurmountable Odds: Get closer to the enemy faster than you think. We break down how this unique rule pushes the pace and puts the pressure on your opponent.
    2️⃣ Enhancements: We discuss all four enhancements, focusing on how they augment your swarm and work in tandem with the detachment rule.
    3️⃣ Stratagems: Unlock the hive fleet's true potential with six game-changing strats! Learn how to make the most of each in your gameplay.
    4️⃣ Spotlight Units: From endless multitudes to top-pick units that shine in this detachment, we give you a comprehensive overview.
    5️⃣ Army List: Mike's Horde! We showcase an army list specially designed to maximize this detachment's benefits, featuring a massive number of models and strategies for their survivability.
    🦠 Why Watch?
    Horde-style players, this one's for you! Unlock the key to mass unit deployments and tactics.
    If you’re aiming for an army that overwhelms and outraces, this review will be your hive fleet's guidebook.
    Craft the optimal strategy with Mike's expertly tailored list, so you can devour your enemies en masse.
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    00:00 Intro
    00:28 Detachment Rule
    03:14 Enhancements
    07:45 Stratagems
    15:20 Unit Spotlight
    25:27 Mission Play
    27:17 Army List
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  • @JensAntonsen
    @JensAntonsen 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    The army be like. I like to move it move it.

    • @acrylnick2281
      @acrylnick2281 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Are you certain you love yo move 120+models per turn.
      I mean i love it too but its definetly not for everyone XD

  • @robindowse7893
    @robindowse7893 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    As a veteran from 3rd edition the nids are getting real scary id both be terrified at playing them while happy to try my best to kill the bugs lol

  • @HiveOne
    @HiveOne 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    With "Naturelized Camouflage" just consider this: it is for the whole first battleround. So when the enemy shoots you, you "Surge" out of cover and out of Venomtrophes range but still benefit from cover all the way into your opponent if he won't stop shooting those three units. I consider it ok->good.
    Just my opinion on this ^^

    • @DinoCopRulezTheWORLD
      @DinoCopRulezTheWORLD 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      yeah, I am playing tomorrow with Unending Swarm and definitly taking Natural Camoflage.... I do not have Venomthropes. So for me it is must.

    • @devotedtodestruction
      @devotedtodestruction 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DinoCopRulezTheWORLDhow did it go?

  • @jonberkness7940
    @jonberkness7940 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Detachment reviews are such an excellent idea

    • @VanguardTactics
      @VanguardTactics  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      We will have one for each soon enough mate

  • @jasontsabunimt6680
    @jasontsabunimt6680 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    How would this look at 1000 points?

  • @rickirodriguez782
    @rickirodriguez782 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Great video helped me understand the detachment as a new tyranid player along with all of the combos. I would love to see this list played on the channel.

    • @VanguardTactics
      @VanguardTactics  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Well we are using it in tonight's stream! 😉 thank you though mate, we really appreciate the comment and glad we could help

    • @rickirodriguez782
      @rickirodriguez782 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @VanguardTactics Awesome! Thank you all for everything you do!

  • @kadoscott4404
    @kadoscott4404 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    i wonder if the idea behind the +2 move is that it allows a tervigon or a tyrant to keep up with hormagaunts?

    • @user-vt3ro8os3f
      @user-vt3ro8os3f 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      8 inch move warriors

  • @fernandotrevinocastro1018
    @fernandotrevinocastro1018 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great vid!!

  • @vradarx
    @vradarx 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Think with the points changes and nerf to free strats I'd definitely drop a tyrant at least, you could still throw in a full squad of zoeys instead if you really want synapse and shooting still or just throw in some neurolictors or pyrovores for more utility.

  • @sirshakletonfury4833
    @sirshakletonfury4833 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What is the rule about, in the combat phase the inactive player goes first. I cannot find this in the rule book? Thanks in advanced. 16:36

  • @TheBoWgaming
    @TheBoWgaming 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    the strat to bring the unit back in strategic reserves. Does it explicitly say startegic reserves or just reserves? If it is the first option, then wouldnt it be rules as written? So it has to come back in from a board edge?
    Just trying to understand. Thanks for the vid :)

  • @brittanislarp3850
    @brittanislarp3850 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Is it possible to sign up for an individual Masterclass, or is it like a subscription kinda thing?

  • @Hootiez
    @Hootiez 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    At 10:40 you started talking about how the -1 hits from stratagem and venomthropes stack… I don’t know if it was changed in an update since the video dropped, but current rules say hit and wound rolls can’t be modified more than +1 or -1??

    • @Ohfishyfishyfish
      @Ohfishyfishyfish 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You can never modify to hit or to wound rolls below -1, however multiple -1s do stack. It only comes up when being attacked by a unit with a +1. For example, you have a unit of Termagants that have the -1 to hit strategem used on them, and are in the Venomthropes' stealth aura of -1 to hit. They are targetted by a unit with a heavy weapon that stood still on BS 3+. The heavy weapon gives +1 to hit, but receives -2, so the unit will hit on 4+. If the heavy weapon unit moved, it would not receive the +1 to hit, so shooting the Termagants, it will receive the -2, but still hit on a 4+ since the unit's BS is 3+ and cannot be modified to -2.

  • @CeriMullins-nq3mc
    @CeriMullins-nq3mc 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Interesting guys thanks

  • @Eassle
    @Eassle 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    So I’ve mostly used blobs of gants since starting warhammer. Started in 10th so I’m a new player for sure. However Mabye I’m just not seeing this same way as some other but it kinda looks like invasion fleet detachment does better for swarms. Let me explain. This detachments enhancements seem iffy to use so let’s not worry about those. The stratagems are cool don’t get me wrong but it’s only effecting 1 unit instead of 2 like in invasion. That’s a big deal because u have a literal swarm. Also there is no regen gaunts to a unit in this one aside from just being back a whole unit. Which don’t get me wrong is great but thats the big winner stratagem. If u take that stratagem and put it into invasion it would preform better. The crit hits on 5 is in invasion for 2 cp. endless swarm regens almost a whole unit of gaunts with tervigon in real time instead of needing to redeploy. U can select lethal or sustained hits for cp with hyper adaptive. Blast weapons in my experience so far havnt been a huge problem and I think is overblown. (don’t shoot me for the pun) however flamers will rip through 20 gants before they can touch the enemy. Rapid regen for 1 cp just works really well. It just seems like ur moving ur gants forward all game to die before they end up doing anything worthwhile. Mabye when I try it I’ll learn that it actually a great detachment and I’m worried for nothing but so far I’m very underwhelmed with it. Especially seeing as the only regen come from a tervigon (which keep in mind will lose its feel no pain enhancement) and put a whole unit in reserves which makes
    U take an expensive swarm lord for all the cp u will be spending instead of 2 more units of gants. Or another tervigon.

    • @thephinoxman2
      @thephinoxman2 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is my same thought process. Half of what the stratagems to the invasion fleet does for free and the other half are kinda meh. I also love my big o blobs to and it really does feel like everything unending swarm offers invasion fleet does better or is really not needed

    • @Eassle
      @Eassle 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@thephinoxman2 unfortunately it seems so with the only exception being all of the hormagaunts. Those with a swarmlord bring one back each phase would be great. Issue is unending swarm really is only good for that one battle line unit. I made a pretty cool list with them and the swarmlord. 3 primes leading gargoyles. I mean it’ll be thematic. Almost 200 models lol

  • @FTWinchesterTV
    @FTWinchesterTV 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think you need a Neurotyrant to hand out synapse to your fast boys

  • @lone4736
    @lone4736 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can someone send an list? Im new to warhammer and my english ist not the best😅
    Thx guys

  • @Chuckanory
    @Chuckanory 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    ... we're gonna need a bigger flamer

  • @adamcarr1387
    @adamcarr1387 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Do you have a list of what stratagems are what? e.g. battle tactic, strategic ploy... It really matters now

    • @VanguardTactics
      @VanguardTactics  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ill find out and put them in the description for you mate

    • @VanguardTactics
      @VanguardTactics  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Synaptic goading -strategic ploy
      Swarming masses - battle tactic
      Unending waves - strategic ploy
      Bounding advance - battle tactic
      Preservation imperative - strategic ploy
      Teeming masses - Battle Tactic

  •  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Does the "advance D6 after getting shot" work per weapon or per unit shooting? So if a Librarian for example casts smite and then shoots his pistol can I advance twice?

    • @VanguardTactics
      @VanguardTactics  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Hey there, unfortunately no because all the shooting from a single unit is done in one activation, so in essence its done at the same time therefore you can only move extra once. but if two separate units shoot at the gaunts then they will move twice

    •  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@VanguardTactics Thanks!

  • @jaydenpaynter-williams2484
    @jaydenpaynter-williams2484 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I don't understand, you mentioned at 1:50 that the Endless Multidude units can fight first in the fight phase, but they don't have the fight first keyword and I couldn't see that they got it with the detachment rule? If someone could clear this up that would be awesome :)

    • @swolegolisopod7340
      @swolegolisopod7340 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The active player fights second unless their unit has fights first or charged. Since the EM unit surge moved into engagement distance they get to fight first unless the active player's unit has the keyword

  • @try2dream
    @try2dream 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Very cool list.
    I'm worried about heavy tank lists like an Imperial Guard tank line or Knights?

    • @williamhanna9718
      @williamhanna9718 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yeah certain lists will still decimate gaunts but you will also face armies that will be incapable of killing them all over 5 turns if you run as many as possible. I did the math and you can run max battle line units for tyranids(60 of each units type) and still have 740 points to spare on big stuff

    • @VanguardTactics
      @VanguardTactics  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      it's more the fact they won't have enough to kill them especially if you tie them in combat, theoretically you should out score them on primary fairly easy and doing things like cleanse of teleport homers is great

  • @Dewoy1
    @Dewoy1 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This looks like a fun little detachement. But the lack of leading units its a bit sad. I dont own or play to get most of the options you do have, but i´ll try this anyway.
    Question: If you get a CP at the start and then +1 from the Swarm Lord could you still get a third CP by discarding a Secondary?

    • @devotedtodestruction
      @devotedtodestruction 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I don’t see why not

    • @chosenone5471
      @chosenone5471 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Only one per turn

    • @VanguardTactics
      @VanguardTactics  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      unfortunately not, you can only ever gain a single extra CP in your turn. Some exceptions are the imperial knights special rule or the Votann one in their detachment rules but that's about it

    • @Dewoy1
      @Dewoy1 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And the Lurker charakter kill i hope.@@VanguardTactics

  • @noobzoar
    @noobzoar 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Yes! I want a BR of this.

  • @Matt-jp6if
    @Matt-jp6if 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Detachment looks cool, moving 80 gaunts around three times a turn does not seem quite so cool

    • @adahepper2665
      @adahepper2665 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Movement trays exists you know

  • @Poisedanubis85
    @Poisedanubis85 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just made a 640p tyranids army with endless swarm in mind,,,,,but haven’t got a prime or neuro tyrant so that’s screwed me for most of the enhancements I got the parasite and a tervigon damn

  • @leegman7807
    @leegman7807 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Can you do one on the Psychic based detachment please as well

    • @VanguardTactics
      @VanguardTactics  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We are doing one for them all don't worry

  • @AngelofDeath333
    @AngelofDeath333 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    20 Gaunts with 4 extra shots per model 😂 that’s insane!! 80 Shots 😉 heading into the enemy they rushing

  • @ThatMangaGuy
    @ThatMangaGuy 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It seems this has an extra 30 pts so we can add a pyrovore as well unless I’m missing something

    • @VanguardTactics
      @VanguardTactics  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Potentially, all these videos for the Detachments were done before the balance data slate so the points will be changed I imagine, Looking back I agree a pyrovore or potentially some ripper bases for mission play

    • @ThatMangaGuy
      @ThatMangaGuy 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@VanguardTactics I’m building this list and going to see

  • @joedouglass9966
    @joedouglass9966 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Would you consider maybe a Harpy with hover or Raveners? Seems like they might have synergy with being able to move quickly all over the board.

    • @VanguardTactics
      @VanguardTactics  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Raveners for sure have a space in every kid list, they are great for mission play and much cheaper than the harpy. It depends on the list make up right, so rippers also achieve the same as ravenors if your going fixed but for tactical Ravenors are great

  • @Omalley69
    @Omalley69 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Imagine having to move d6 of an objective because you lost a model. And then end in engagement range and pile off the objective.

    • @Viewer41
      @Viewer41 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The move is optional.

  • @Rvdbarnes
    @Rvdbarnes 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    When can we expect the masterclass to drop?

    • @VanguardTactics
      @VanguardTactics  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No date confirmed yet, but the link is in the description for the email sign up link, so when its all confirmed you will get notified of the date and contents :)

    • @Rvdbarnes
      @Rvdbarnes 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@VanguardTactics Really looking forward to it 😎

  • @brittanislarp3850
    @brittanislarp3850 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    So frustrating to deny Nids a leader bug for the ‘gants. HES LITERALLY CALLED **SWARMLORD** JAMES WORKSHOP!! Argh.

    • @vradarx
      @vradarx 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Still wouldn't be viable because he would have T3 vs precision weapons and get murdered anyway 😅. Same reason no one takes neurotyrant with neurogaunts.

  • @Demortixx
    @Demortixx 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Lame you have to move with ranged units

  • @SumsieBun
    @SumsieBun 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m sad this video aged so poorly. Tyranids now are low bottom tier but running huge swarms is so much fun

    • @DrangusKahn
      @DrangusKahn 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It won a Grand Tournament and that is an amazing thing.

  • @henrikrasmussen7340
    @henrikrasmussen7340 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I was just about to watch this when i realised:
    No pictures of the units your talking about.
    No index cards on screen either.
    Post production value is to low for me.

    • @VanguardTactics
      @VanguardTactics  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Unfortunately with how many videos we are producing and one editor it’s not feasible to add those in for every video. Hopefully the video is extremely insightful and informative.

  • @craigcox813
    @craigcox813 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dislike for the ads spread out. Clump them together, not everyone wants to see ads.