@@marshal7102 please explain and please link a video of doing it the correct way. I'm looking everywhere andi don't understand. I'm watching videos of internal governers on these and I can't figureout why it's bad to hook it up this way. I don't really know about all this stuff but I got a friend helping me build a mud mower who knows a good bit and hassling him about trying to hook mine up like this and he just wants to know why not to and have no answers for him. So I guess if you or none of the others I've commented to can help me then ima just do it this way and upload a video showing why or why not to do this
Blew up my 17.5hp Murray with a bungee cord on that governor. I was riding around with a 6 in front pulley swap and like half a can of ether. It also hadn’t run in months and would die if it idled. It had a huge crack in the back of the block. Took it apart and the counterweight was ripped from the piston.
The same thing happened to my brothers 17.5 HP. Except the engine went into complete meltdown after It got stuck at its highest rpm and completely busted apart, pieces and oil were all over the mower😂
FYI If you don't remove the governor componants in the inside of the engine you will destroy your engine when the parts com flying appart from excessive RPM. The governor gears are not designed for max RPM of the engine and will fly appart and lock up your engine. I did this to a 9hp Briggs on a gokart. It ran fine for a couple of lapps and when I ran at full throttle I heard a clanging noise followed by an abrupt stop of the engine. It was Locked up due to the gonernor gear being shreded and jaming into the crank and cam gears.
@@philipgillespie8409 Really,,,Since when did they decide a vertical shaft engine needs no governor. orientation has nothing to do with the function of a governor
Why can't I hook it up there? Everyone is saying this will ruin your motor but I don't understand and I keep watching vids about internal governers. I just wanna know how to remove the mofo and connect it to my gas pedal lol
You’re actually hooked to the governor, holding wide open constantly on a B/S you will find out how crappy their valves are. Ask me how I know. 😉 Try and find a kevlar drive belt, it will last longer and grip better. Great job so far!
@@LS1sLegoGarage The springs are weak, and the valves will float (the valves won't seat so you lose compression at high RPM). Also, B&S engines use a plastic timing gear for the camshaft, it likes to break when you over-rev the engine.
Hopefully he won't use that pedal to hold it wide open for long periods.. do you see any issues with this setup other than the responsibility of the diver to control the rpms? Others are just saying the engine will blow but I can't figureout if they are concerned about OP not self governing his throttle usage appropriatly; or if they are saying he is literally setting up an inevitable and impending motor failure I'm just tryna hook up a throttle gas pedal for my mower to use for off reading and no one is very clear about how to do that; and when they are.. the commnt section looks like this one
He removed the old throttle, but to get rid of the governor you pull the engine apart and take the governor out. He just bypassed it and it will blow the gear up because it is plastic
You hooked your gas pedal to the governor if you don't do a governor delete at high rpm the internals on the governor will sling apart and ruin the engine
Above 4,000 rpm, a flywheel is highly recommended for safety. To damage to the keyways, do not use a steel flywheel key. A heat-treated hardened key would be even a worse thing to use. An soft aluminum (4041 hardness) key works best. To keep a keyway in a cast flywheel from splitting, it's best to use soft aluminum key. The reason for this is if the connecting rod breaks resulting in instant crankshaft lockup, the soft key will prevent damage to the flywheel and crankshaft. The aluminum key will shear in two, allowing the flywheel to slip on the crankshaft, preventing damage to either the flywheel or crankshaft. A steel key will cause a cast iron flywheel to crack or break, or if a flywheel loosens on the crankshaft, it'll wallow out the keyways. But if an aluminum V-belt starter pulley with ignition timing degree marks is installed on the PTO end of the crankshaft, there's really no need to install a flywheel key. The only reason most small engines use a flywheel key is to time the ignition, and not to prevent the flywheel from slipping on the crankshaft.What does a normal lawn mower go in terms of RPM when it's at full throttle normally just mowing a lawn? And what is the safe level of RPMs for a four-stroke lawn mower? 6,000 RPM 8000? From the internet.....Above 4,000 rpm, a steel flywheel is highly recommended for safety.
Governor inside motor? Is there a video on TH-cam for this? If I do what he did is my notor gunna moat likely die, but if I do what you suggest it'll live much longer ungoverned?
The only way it will is when it runs out of oil I recommend 15-40 diesel oil that way it has enough lubrication during top end revolutions I repeat don't put no stp or any thing else in ur lawn mowers for raceing purposes it will blow up then only 15-40 oil
I'm building mine currently fun watching you work on this giving me some great ideas! I be watching for your next one
Thank you for your support. They are super fun to build and drive
How fast do they go
Hopefully you will NOT follow these instructions!!!
@@marshal7102 Why not?
@@marshal7102 please explain and please link a video of doing it the correct way. I'm looking everywhere andi don't understand.
I'm watching videos of internal governers on these and I can't figureout why it's bad to hook it up this way.
I don't really know about all this stuff but I got a friend helping me build a mud mower who knows a good bit and hassling him about trying to hook mine up like this and he just wants to know why not to and have no answers for him.
So I guess if you or none of the others I've commented to can help me then ima just do it this way and upload a video showing why or why not to do this
Blew up my 17.5hp Murray with a bungee cord on that governor. I was riding around with a 6 in front pulley swap and like half a can of ether. It also hadn’t run in months and would die if it idled. It had a huge crack in the back of the block. Took it apart and the counterweight was ripped from the piston.
The same thing happened to my brothers 17.5 HP. Except the engine went into complete meltdown after It got stuck at its highest rpm and completely busted apart, pieces and oil were all over the mower😂
Wow! My crazy boy! You always amaze me! 👏🏻👍🏻🙌🏻 it is super fun to drive too!
Yes it is very fun to drive😁
I have a john deere la 105 (5) speed and was wondering if you've a video to make a gas pedal?
Imagine how fast it would go with a pulley swap as well
edit: never mind, its already pulley swapped
dude keep up it is clearly as clear as dAY CLEARLY CLEAR AS ICE CLEARLY PULLEY SWAPPED
There's gonna be a lot of Engines Destroyed by people folloing these instruction Hope You can Live with That!!!!
Can I hook my throttle line directly to the carb and bypass the governor or is this bad?
Drive responsibly
@@RandoManFPVtake the governor out completely never do a bypass
Is that pulley swapped?
I been looking everywhere for this thanks!
How did you run your how did you run your cable throttle around to the other side where the paddle is
Did an amazing job
Thank you very much😁
FYI If you don't remove the governor componants in the inside of the engine you will destroy your engine when the parts com flying appart from excessive RPM. The governor gears are not designed for max RPM of the engine and will fly appart and lock up your engine. I did this to a 9hp Briggs on a gokart. It ran fine for a couple of lapps and when I ran at full throttle I heard a clanging noise followed by an abrupt stop of the engine. It was Locked up due to the gonernor gear being shreded and jaming into the crank and cam gears.
Components....apart....laps.... shredded....and you are absolutely correct. Removing is removing.
Is there a video for this somewhere?
It’s not. Necessary on a vertical shaft motor
@@philipgillespie8409 Really,,,Since when did they decide a vertical shaft engine needs no governor. orientation has nothing to do with the function of a governor
What size transmission pulley do you have what size is it on the front pulling
That lever is the engine govener
Why can't I hook it up there? Everyone is saying this will ruin your motor but I don't understand and I keep watching vids about internal governers.
I just wanna know how to remove the mofo and connect it to my gas pedal lol
You’re actually hooked to the governor, holding wide open constantly on a B/S you will find out how crappy their valves are. Ask me how I know. 😉
Try and find a kevlar drive belt, it will last longer and grip better. Great job so far!
Whats wrong with their valves? Do they break at high rpms?
@@LS1sLegoGarage The springs are weak, and the valves will float (the valves won't seat so you lose compression at high RPM). Also, B&S engines use a plastic timing gear for the camshaft, it likes to break when you over-rev the engine.
Hopefully he won't use that pedal to hold it wide open for long periods.. do you see any issues with this setup other than the responsibility of the diver to control the rpms?
Others are just saying the engine will blow but I can't figureout if they are concerned about OP not self governing his throttle usage appropriatly; or if they are saying he is literally setting up an inevitable and impending motor failure
I'm just tryna hook up a throttle gas pedal for my mower to use for off reading and no one is very clear about how to do that; and when they are.. the commnt section looks like this one
I wanted to see the miles per hours on his phone that thing was moving pretty quick I'm impressed
10:08 you sure its damn safe to be laying the hammer down on such a small engine?
wouldn't it wear it out?
It isn’t because the governor is still in there and could blow up
He removed the old throttle, but to get rid of the governor you pull the engine apart and take the governor out. He just bypassed it and it will blow the gear up because it is plastic
Kid: what happened to Uncle Tom?
He hit a deer on his lawnmower doing 120
Love it !!!
Could aleast showed how you made your gas pedal.
Imagine how much fun it's going to be cutting the grass in half the time 🤷🤪🔥🏃👈🥲👍❤️🤷🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣💯
You hooked your gas pedal to the governor if you don't do a governor delete at high rpm the internals on the governor will sling apart and ruin the engine
You are SOOOO Right same thing happend to mine!!!!!
Yeah, I think I'll play it safe and keep the governor on mine😂
Pulling into the shed I thought he was going to go through the other side for a second there
Above 4,000 rpm, a flywheel is highly recommended for safety.
To damage to the keyways, do not use a steel flywheel key. A heat-treated hardened key would be even a worse thing to use. An soft aluminum (4041 hardness) key works best. To keep a keyway in a cast flywheel from splitting, it's best to use soft aluminum key. The reason for this is if the connecting rod breaks resulting in instant crankshaft lockup, the soft key will prevent damage to the flywheel and crankshaft. The aluminum key will shear in two, allowing the flywheel to slip on the crankshaft, preventing damage to either the flywheel or crankshaft. A steel key will cause a cast iron flywheel to crack or break, or if a flywheel loosens on the crankshaft, it'll wallow out the keyways. But if an aluminum V-belt starter pulley with ignition timing degree marks is installed on the PTO end of the crankshaft, there's really no need to install a flywheel key. The only reason most small engines use a flywheel key is to time the ignition, and not to prevent the flywheel from slipping on the crankshaft.What does a normal lawn mower go in terms of RPM when it's at full throttle normally just mowing a lawn? And what is the safe level of RPMs for a four-stroke lawn mower? 6,000 RPM 8000? From the internet.....Above 4,000 rpm, a steel flywheel is highly recommended for safety.
Yo this is fn cool
My dad took the regulator off my Puch when I was 8 and it did 50mph with me and him on it.
Bro you turned it off at the end the same as i do my car 🤣🤣
Take the engine off, pull the governor out, take the arm off and connect directly to the carb. Then you have truly no governor
Governor inside motor? Is there a video on TH-cam for this?
If I do what he did is my notor gunna moat likely die, but if I do what you suggest it'll live much longer ungoverned?
I have the throttle zip tied to the fuel line 🤣 🤣 🤣
Great way to tear up your engine. You will break your governor and the parts will lock up or destroy your engine
You will blow that thing up if you keep it connected to the governor like that
Nah John Deere’s cut out if there’s any problem I have one and did what he did and it got to hot and beeped and turnten off
The only way it will is when it runs out of oil I recommend 15-40 diesel oil that way it has enough lubrication during top end revolutions I repeat don't put no stp or any thing else in ur lawn mowers for raceing purposes it will blow up then only 15-40 oil
I'm not going to even knock on the way you did yours.... 🤷🥲👍❤️💯🙂🤝🙂.... It's awesome seeing it rip through the mud like that 😳🤷🤪🔥🙂🤝🙂🥲👍❤️🏃🔥👈🤪
This does not sound like a good investment. Seems as though it actually doesn't idle down enough. I'll figure a different way
Why didn't you just simply tear the entire engine down and remove the governor 😳👀👀👀👀🤔🏃👈🤷
Nononno stop doing that that same technique blew up my engine
Need a class in small engines learn before you burn the engine up
These Mowers are meant to be disposable. Buy one cheap, build it for cheap, break it, repeat.
I’m pretty sure he’s doing the self taught class
I'm pretty sure he can get a spare ,