half of the time he's pretending to smoke a real one. And if we limit ourselves here I think we'd be missing out on a lot of our history. WE might make/create the textbooks of the future, but we need to be as impartial to all fake smoking of pipes as we can. Both the imaginary and the real pipes made from whatever materials need to be included to let all pipers feel included!
"Hello (first attested in 1833), from holla, hollo (attested 1588). This variant of hallo is often credited to Thomas Edison as a coinage for telephone use, but its appearance in print predates the invention of the telephone by several decades."
Welcome to QI, my favourite source of false etymologies. Like when they translated "Manhattan" as "the place we all got drunk" (which is complete nonsense). th-cam.com/video/gS1KYjrvve8/w-d-xo.html
@@renerpho The name Manhattan comes from the Munsi language of the Lenni Lenape meaning island of many hills. Other theories say that it comes from one of three Munsi words. "Manahactanienk" meaning "place of inebriation". Other possibilities are "manahatouh" meaning "a place where wood is available for making bows and arrows" and "menatay" meaning simply "the island."
@@renerpho “manahactanienk” is all over the internet as loosely meaning “the place of general intoxication”. Apparently its got something to do with Hudson meeting native americans and sharing drinks with them. Apparently they didnt really have a word for “drunk” as it were, so they derived that word from the previous name of the area. This was like 1609 from what i read. And missionaries in 1801 said manhattan came from this story.. i dunno, seems fair enough.
Word of warning, Jo mispronounced Floccinaucinihilipilification. The "Nau" in "Nauci" reads like the word "Nor", much like it is in the word "Nautilus".
Yeah I spent a while on it and its fluid now :D But I think she is using the British version which has one or two accent varieties - wikipedia has both audio versions side by side
well if Jo is using the British version surely that's the correct version - as the origin of this is believed to be Eton "action or habit of estimating as worthless," 1741, a combination of four Latin words ( flocci, nauci, nihili, pilifi) all signifying "at a small price" or "for nothing," which were listed together in a rule of the well-known Eton Latin Grammar."
And people believe he stole inventions? Classic internet. I've really no idea where this whole meme came about, but Edison ran a company that hired scientists, much like how Bill Gates get credit for microsoft when it was more than likely his team that came up with it. Everything invented within a company like that become the right of said company, much like how some colleges work. The popular belief is that Edison stole Tesla's idea about alternating currents or whatever, but Edison wanted direct current and dismissed his idea for it, Tesla quit the company and sold his patents to a rival of Edison, and then began the War of Currents did (Yoda voice). But no, complete and utter bullshit, a claxon for you sir, a claxon.
@@SteveCowlishaw On behalf of the internet we would like to apologize. He did not steal inventions, he merely took credit for them then. I hope that makes you feel better.
It’s about time I’ve been recommended Stephen Fry, watched him damn near enough times in my atheist and then free speech days, never mind Blackadder and film
As an american, there are two main observations I have about British panel shows. 1. It's literally just a talk show with four guests at a time in a game show format 2. I can never fucking tell what decade they are filmed in.
In response to number 2, that is quite intentional. There is a weird 'tradition'(?) in film and TV of future proofing films and TV shows, I think so they don't age too fast. Maybe so that they can be used to create revenue for longer, not sure? They still go to the lengths of putting the year the program was made in Roman numerals, which I'm fairly sure is just to make it less easy to tell when it was made.🤔
You don't know how many times I used the word HULLO after reading BRAVE NEW WORLD. I have no idea what I was thinking, but I might know what I am thinking now.
I think it's only really Americans that mince their vowels like that. E's become A's, O's become U's.. I dunno if any of that is accurate but it's the jist I'm getting at. For example, we say pub, you guys repeat what we say and pronounce it as pob.
@@SteveCowlishaw Vowels are articulated differently in England and the U.S. for the same reason they are articulated differently in Scotland or anywhere else that speaks English. But we don't merge the "strut" vowel in "pub" with the "lot" vowel. If anything, Americans stick more closely to /ʌ/ than British speakers, where you also hear something like /u/ in "pub."
It does. This whole story about Edison inventing the word is wrong and based on a misunderstanding. The word appeared in print a number of times before he was even born.
And I'im writing from my hometown right now listening to this - Edison's Menlo Park, now renamed after him as "Edison, NJ." There's a little historical site in town with a tower to commemorate him (an ugly WPA project). But these days, it's largely a densely populated suburb of New York City on a busy train line, with about a 60 percent population of Asian Americans. Oddly, we didn't talk about Edison overly much in school back when I was little. Everyone knew who he was but there was little propagandizing for the town's namesake.
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The greatest phone call answer for me is Hank Moody in Californication : " Who call my phone".
Common greetings may have included 'ahoy', 'how do you do', 'sir', 'madam' or by family tie (father, mother, uncle, aunt etc); 'good morning', 'good day' and 'good evening' were also fairly common. Source: Fry's English Delight, Season 2 Episode 3. (Hello!)
As a person coming from a country where the word hello is still mainly used as call to get peoples attention, using that word as you would used the word "Hi" is very camp. But you do use it in the correct way when you may yell it in a dark cave, hoping for someone to react to it.
In Sweden we use something similar to hello. If you say "hallo" instead of "hello" and do not pronounce the "W" sound at the end of it then you have it. It is something you call when you want the attention of another person. Lets say you hear something from outside your house late at night. Then you would yell out "hallo, is anybody out there?".
In English we just use Hello in that situation. As can be seen in numerous horror movies when someone goes around yelling “hello, is anyone there?” Into the darkness.
No you didn't. You knew perfectly well it wasn't common knowledge. "Ohh, doesn't 'everybody' know that?" As you smoke an imaginary pipe, looking all smug in your red velvet bath robe.
'Hello' was used as a greeting in 1853. So Edison did not invent the word, to be used as a greeting in 1877 but merely suggested it be used in connection with the use of the telephone. This is certainly not what is said by Stephen at 0:57 onwards. I trust the Oxford English Dictionary's accuracy on such matters. (No, it wasn't Lionel Ritchie, either !)
The thing is Ahoy is an attention getting word. You don't answer ahoy with an ahoy. So a caller might use the word ahoy but the receiver would need a response word.
In Japan they use “Moshi Moshi” to answer phone calls. This is also an attention getting word and I believe you only use it when answering a phone, the person calling does not use it. So if it can work in Japanese it can work in English.
Hello, with that spelling, was used in publications in the US as early as the 18 October 1826 edition of the Norwich Courier of Norwich, Connecticut. From wikipedia, which in turn cites oxford english dictory.
Edison and his team did greatly improve on a number of inventions, much like Henry Ford and the car. He was more of a Steve Jobs than Wozniak. To say Edison didn’t invent anything isn’t exactly true but neither is him inventing all those things.
What did Edison invent, Me sir, Me sir, The lighte house sir, And the washing machine, And strawberry jam, And lots of good things. My teacher told me I was a smart ass, And I never listened to a thing he said, Class dismissed, I'm the first out the door.
I demand ''Bill Bailey Smoking Imaginary Pipe Compilation'' . Immediately. Thank You.
half of the time he's pretending to smoke a real one. And if we limit ourselves here I think we'd be missing out on a lot of our history. WE might make/create the textbooks of the future, but we need to be as impartial to all fake smoking of pipes as we can. Both the imaginary and the real pipes made from whatever materials need to be included to let all pipers feel included!
I completely second this
Didn't he bring a real one after a while?
@@JoeZUGOOLA Yeah
you know its a great part of the episode when stephen starts calling his guests beasts
I would love to hear Adele sing the song Ahoy-hoy
I'd prefer Lionel Richie's version
"Ahoy...
It's ya boi..."
"Hello (first attested in 1833), from holla, hollo (attested 1588). This variant of hallo is often credited to Thomas Edison as a coinage for telephone use, but its appearance in print predates the invention of the telephone by several decades."
Welcome to QI, my favourite source of false etymologies. Like when they translated "Manhattan" as "the place we all got drunk" (which is complete nonsense). th-cam.com/video/gS1KYjrvve8/w-d-xo.html
@@renerpho The name Manhattan comes from the Munsi language of the Lenni Lenape meaning island of many hills. Other theories say that it comes from one of three Munsi words. "Manahactanienk" meaning "place of inebriation". Other possibilities are "manahatouh" meaning "a place where wood is available for making bows and arrows" and "menatay" meaning simply "the island."
@@renerpho “manahactanienk” is all over the internet as loosely meaning “the place of general intoxication”. Apparently its got something to do with Hudson meeting native americans and sharing drinks with them. Apparently they didnt really have a word for “drunk” as it were, so they derived that word from the previous name of the area. This was like 1609 from what i read. And missionaries in 1801 said manhattan came from this story.. i dunno, seems fair enough.
When Stephen calls someone a beast it's a good episode
I was trying to come up with something clever but instead I'm just gunna say I love gir lol
YOU UNUTTERABLE BEAST
Floccinaucinihilipilification. I just spent 5min learning that word.
Word of warning, Jo mispronounced Floccinaucinihilipilification.
The "Nau" in "Nauci" reads like the word "Nor", much like it is in the word "Nautilus".
Yeah I spent a while on it and its fluid now :D But I think she is using the British version which has one or two accent varieties - wikipedia has both audio versions side by side
well if Jo is using the British version surely that's the correct version - as the origin of this is believed to be Eton
"action or habit of estimating as worthless," 1741, a combination of four Latin words ( flocci, nauci, nihili, pilifi) all signifying "at a small price" or "for nothing," which were listed together in a rule of the well-known Eton Latin Grammar."
I was going to spend 5 minutes learning it, but I assessed it was worthless :)
@@angryhobo212 You win the internet until further notice.
When Bill Bailey said 'hello' when he was pretending to open a fridge, he sounded remarkably like John Cleese. Uncanny.
So he plagiarised the word, spelled it wrong and changed the meaning? Classic Edison.
And now it's changed the world and everybody is using it? Classic Edison.
And people believe he stole inventions? Classic internet.
I've really no idea where this whole meme came about, but Edison ran a company that hired scientists, much like how Bill Gates get credit for microsoft when it was more than likely his team that came up with it. Everything invented within a company like that become the right of said company, much like how some colleges work.
The popular belief is that Edison stole Tesla's idea about alternating currents or whatever, but Edison wanted direct current and dismissed his idea for it, Tesla quit the company and sold his patents to a rival of Edison, and then began the War of Currents did (Yoda voice).
But no, complete and utter bullshit, a claxon for you sir, a claxon.
@@SteveCowlishaw On behalf of the internet we would like to apologize. He did not steal inventions, he merely took credit for them then. I hope that makes you feel better.
@@SteveCowlishaw If you want a theif of ideas and invention it's Tesla
surprised he didn't patent it too and charge everyone a fee to use it
They all look so young!
Bill Bailey especially, it struck me.
Not Jimmy.
This show has been on the air since 2003. Series B was shot in 2004.
Because they were
wow Jimmy Carr was chubby
Nick Yang he went on the Don't Eat Anything After 7pm Diet and apparently lost weight by doing that.
He then started storing his money off shore so couldn't buy as much food as usual
Alan Barratt holy fuck 😂
Even the circular graphic behind Fry was a bit chubby those days.
He has had a lot of work done
It’s about time I’ve been recommended Stephen Fry, watched him damn near enough times in my atheist and then free speech days, never mind Blackadder and film
Hey now! The clip ain't over yet!
Ahoj (pronounced ahoy) is hello in Slovak... quite interesting?
Anytime you see a thumbnail with Bill Bailey using a pen as a pipe you know it’s going to be good.
1:22 What a TERRIBLE shame that Bill didn't have an actual pipe with him but had to resort to using his pen as a prop.
I always used to answer my landline with "Greetings, Earthling!"
I use "Yeeeeee-lo?" like 'yellow' 😛
What year is this? Everyone look so young and chubbier.
2471. It's their future clones.
This would 2004 since it's series B. So 16 years ago.
my my I guess the chubbyness is just due to wrong formatting
@@sophiavechnyak6763 20 years ago now
Good on Jimmy Carr for knowing his history of telephony.
As an american, there are two main observations I have about British panel shows.
1. It's literally just a talk show with four guests at a time in a game show format
2. I can never fucking tell what decade they are filmed in.
2003-2015 as of the host, 2016 and onwards had a female host
In response to number 2, that is quite intentional. There is a weird 'tradition'(?) in film and TV of future proofing films and TV shows, I think so they don't age too fast. Maybe so that they can be used to create revenue for longer, not sure? They still go to the lengths of putting the year the program was made in Roman numerals, which I'm fairly sure is just to make it less easy to tell when it was made.🤔
The word Hello was written down in the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle of Alfred the Great's time. It was said as a greeting by a lord to a worker.
ahh. chubby jimmy. thou art missed.
You don't know how many times I used the word HULLO after reading BRAVE NEW WORLD.
I have no idea what I was thinking, but I might know what I am thinking now.
As an American, I just kinda assumed that was just how Brits spoke. "Hullo, what's this? Do you know, good sir?"
I _say!_
So you're saying we don't?
I think it's only really Americans that mince their vowels like that. E's become A's, O's become U's.. I dunno if any of that is accurate but it's the jist I'm getting at.
For example, we say pub, you guys repeat what we say and pronounce it as pob.
@@SteveCowlishaw Vowels are articulated differently in England and the U.S. for the same reason they are articulated differently in Scotland or anywhere else that speaks English. But we don't merge the "strut" vowel in "pub" with the "lot" vowel. If anything, Americans stick more closely to /ʌ/ than British speakers, where you also hear something like /u/ in "pub."
By jove old chap what makes you think we all talk like that here in blighty 😂😂
What I find funny is that when Chuggaaconroy is startled by something in a video game he says "WOAH! HEY THERE BUDDY!"
What’s funny about that?
I wish "Ahoy-hoy" won
I thought the origin came from other germanic languages. Like the German Hallo or the Nordic Hallå
It does. This whole story about Edison inventing the word is wrong and based on a misunderstanding. The word appeared in print a number of times before he was even born.
Stephen tried to say exactely that during the clip without anybody listening.
Take what gets said on Qi with a pinch of salt as the majority of it is *%^&$£^*(
And I'im writing from my hometown right now listening to this - Edison's Menlo Park, now renamed after him as "Edison, NJ." There's a little historical site in town with a tower to commemorate him (an ugly WPA project). But these days, it's largely a densely populated suburb of New York City on a busy train line, with about a 60 percent population of Asian Americans.
Oddly, we didn't talk about Edison overly much in school back when I was little. Everyone knew who he was but there was little propagandizing for the town's namesake.
The greatest phone call answer for me is Hank Moody in Californication : " Who call my phone".
What was the in-person greeting before "Hello"? Anyone know?
Yo blud.
how do you do?
No, I just looked it up, it was "you what fam?"
Common greetings may have included 'ahoy', 'how do you do', 'sir', 'madam' or by family tie (father, mother, uncle, aunt etc); 'good morning', 'good day' and 'good evening' were also fairly common.
Source: Fry's English Delight, Season 2 Episode 3. (Hello!)
"Avast thar' me hearties!" (though that actually means "stop")
As a person coming from a country where the word hello is still mainly used as call to get peoples attention, using that word as you would used the word "Hi" is very camp.
But you do use it in the correct way when you may yell it in a dark cave, hoping for someone to react to it.
Hi camp.
@@marccolten9801
But then again, Swedish is naturally quite a camp language.
@@MegaBanne What are you doing in a dark cave?🤔
@@pseudonayme7717
Caving
A shotgun that dispenses make up?
The "Everythings OK alarm"?
Didn't he invent a 5th leg on a hinge that stops you falling backwards while trying to invent things...
According to simpsons
It was 6 legs 1 leg at the rear would not be very stable.
And a pneumatic hammer
As well as the makeup shotgun
Yellow, Homer answering the phone and his colour.
Let's cut the quite interesting part out, why not?
No
Wasn't it invented / popularised by Dickens in a Christmas Carol (50 years before Edison).?
uh where's the rest of the explanation?
I was gonna guess he invented plagiarism, but that wouldn't have been an original joke.
Edison is the patron saint of the chinese.
What was the long word she said?
Looking forward to seeing the new film on Edison; hopefully the inventors whose patents he stole will finally get recognition in the US.
Unfortunately, the new film on Edison is made entirely of footage stolen from the Schindler's List and Shrek.
@@gwishart Bwah-hah-hah!
In Sweden we use something similar to hello. If you say "hallo" instead of "hello" and do not pronounce the "W" sound at the end of it then you have it. It is something you call when you want the attention of another person. Lets say you hear something from outside your house late at night. Then you would yell out "hallo, is anybody out there?".
A large number of languages use a variation on the English hello when answering the phone - the French use "âllo", for example.
In English we just use Hello in that situation. As can be seen in numerous horror movies when someone goes around yelling “hello, is anyone there?” Into the darkness.
@@rachelcookie321
True.
Saying hallo as hi is viewed as super camp over here, but Swedish is like the most camp language in Europe lol.
@@MegaBanne like gay?
@@rachelcookie321 Gay?
i would have guessed "copyright infringement" but that's because i assumed the "hello" thing was Common Knowledge.
i assumed "Patent fraud"
No you didn't. You knew perfectly well it wasn't common knowledge.
"Ohh, doesn't 'everybody' know that?" As you smoke an imaginary pipe, looking all smug in your red velvet bath robe.
My dad’s reply was always “hogie pogie”
He was the origin of the word copycat as well
Nothing beats "greetings comrade."
Folk say he invented the research and development team
So the one thing we know he did invent was a word that existed already with one letter changed? That's such Edison thing to do.
You copied a two-year-old comment. That's such an Edison thing to do.
@@TheOfficialCzex Just checked the comments, I don't see what I'm meant to have copied.
Ahoy hoy
Hullo?
'Hello' was used as a greeting in 1853. So Edison did not invent the word, to be used as a greeting in 1877 but merely suggested it be used in connection with the use of the telephone. This is certainly not what is said by Stephen at 0:57 onwards.
I trust the Oxford English Dictionary's accuracy on such matters.
(No, it wasn't Lionel Ritchie, either !)
Hello is the greeting in affected speech by the upper class of the common phrase, halloo, from the phrase: how well are you?
He also invented a screw, the Edison screw.
If you arent answering the phone moshi moshi then how do you know you aren't talking to a nagitusne?
Constant Chaos Man I feel bad for any Japanese person having to read that
@@quantumblurrr どうして？ 私の文章は英語で書かれていたので、日本語で書く必要はありません.
@@quantumblurrr oh wow I forgot how racist you were lol
Moshi Moshi...
"Kiryu Chan!"
'slams phone'
I thought people said “hello” in surprise because they were greeting it. I thought you were just greeting the thing in surprise.
Mr Fry looking like an effete bond villain
"Hullo, hullo, hullo, what's this then?"
Needs an, 'all'. ;) :)
What's the word Jo used originally? The German word pertaining to chess?
Zugzwang. When a player would rather pass on playing (but can't), because any move would significantly weaken their position.
Well in my opinion JO has a very different meaning and it can be used in chess to scare away ones opponent but I doubt that's what you mean
Anyone else say "yellow" when they answer the phone??
That’s how my Grandfather said it! 1900-1966 RIP
Answer: Nothing, he stole everything.
Nope I'm not having it, it was a song Lionel Richie, hello,, wait a minute no I'm wrong it was Neil Diamond ♦️👍
Hullo.
The thing is Ahoy is an attention getting word. You don't answer ahoy with an ahoy. So a caller might use the word ahoy but the receiver would need a response word.
In Japan they use “Moshi Moshi” to answer phone calls. This is also an attention getting word and I believe you only use it when answering a phone, the person calling does not use it. So if it can work in Japanese it can work in English.
Hello Hello!! Ahoy-hoy!!
I was going to answer "frivolous lawsuits".
Hello, with that spelling, was used in publications in the US as early as the 18 October 1826 edition of the Norwich Courier of Norwich, Connecticut.
From wikipedia, which in turn cites oxford english dictory.
Ironically, it was actually Jesus that invented sarcasm.
Direct current.
So he didn't even invent a word. He took someone else's, spelled it wrong, then put his name on it. How very Edison
Edison's greatest invention? Electrocuting elephants! Apparently they were a major problem during his day and he found a practical solution.
Elephants that can electrocute would have really helped Hannibal back when he crossed the Alps.
Who invented hurro? No it wasn't Southpark.
I'm a little disgusted no one in the comments has mentioned he invented the industrial research laboratory.
Sounded like there was a convention of parrots among the panel with all the hellos!
Edison actually invented very little. He had a staff that did all the work and he just took the credit because he owned the company.
It's weird how Bill Bailey puts his pen in his mouth
The think tank...
His best invention was a way to steal credit
Edison even stole that word from someone else
The GD xray
Edison and his team did greatly improve on a number of inventions, much like Henry Ford and the car. He was more of a Steve Jobs than Wozniak. To say Edison didn’t invent anything isn’t exactly true but neither is him inventing all those things.
Is Scots still say hullo
From the pic I thought he invented vaping
Jimmy Carr was a bit on the large side back then, and had quite a high voice too.
Sweatshops. That's what he invented.
The electric hammer
the lighthouse
Carr looking like a Bus
I’d say he stole from Tesla
Nobody can say the word hullo quite like the british
Hullo hullo hullo? What's all this then?
'Ello, 'ello, ' ello, what's all this then?
A way to become famous without inventing anything
What did Edison invent, Me sir, Me sir, The lighte house sir, And the washing machine, And strawberry jam, And lots of good things. My teacher told me I was a smart ass, And I never listened to a thing he said, Class dismissed, I'm the first out the door.
E-V-E-R-Y-T-H-I-N-G???
A-hoy-hoy!
I thought it would have been copyright, after he stole inventions.
copyrights were invented because of him stealing inventions I think
Hella
Plagiarism
Since when? Show your workings.
He didn't invent plagiarism - he just stole the concept from someone else.
Edison was a great inventor and innovator. Tesla was also, but was a lousy businessman who lacked marketing skills.
So nothing? You say he invented it, then immediately say that he appropriated a word that already existed for a new purpose.
Edison invented...
Your mum.
no shit
oh I thought he invented plagiarism