John MacArthur cited 2 Corinthians 13:5 and James 2, I explain both below: 2 Corinthians 13:5 th-cam.com/video/ynbNWsiXNS4/w-d-xo.html James 2: th-cam.com/video/usCuIboBxgI/w-d-xo.html
@@Yah_free "the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness" "You are upset, that whores and murderers will make it into the kingdom of heaven before you" Heaven is going to be full of sinners. Get over it. The work of Jesus is what saves people. Or perhaps you think you are holier than the next guy. But rest assured all your righteousnesses are also filthy rags.
I used to be in this camp and would get deathly afraid at verses like this. In my mind, there was no way to really know if I was a serious enough Christian, I just had to repent enough and try hard enough. It wasn't until about three weeks of frantic studying and prayer that I finally (and suddenly) understood this whole passage in an entirely new light: You CAN'T please God by your works. You can't even WANT what's right without a complete transformation happening within. It's completely impossible to walk in righteousness perfectly in this side of heaven, and it's even harder when the root cause in our hearts, which is sin, has not been fixed. It was in that moment that I understood that this passage had a second meaning: That no amount of Christian works done in Jesus' name would be able to prove that you were a good enough Christian. That the ONLY way to be acceptable to God was FAITH ALONE in what Christ did on the Cross, and to be born again. And that it was by FAITH (and faith alone, without adding a single word or deed) that our hearts could even be changed to begin with. I was actually a bit uncomfortable with this realization because it was so different than what I was taught (and what I had been raised to believe). But I came away from it realizing that I couldn't come to any other conclusion. That the faith alone message of the gospel was what the scriptures clearly taught, and I decided to make up my mind about it. I said "okay, I guess I am saved by grace, no matter what I have done or will do. And by faith, my heart will be changed from within" and I stopped trying to beat myself into submission. I stopped striving. I didn't really say any special prayer in that moment other than acknowledging and coming into agreement with this, not thinking much more of it initially. In the following weeks, I noticed multiple things changing. 1) God was answering big prayers like wildfire (in a way I had never seen before), 2) I was feeling the physical tangible presence of something new when I'd pray, worship, or study the Bible, which I soon realized was the Holy Spirit, and 3) my heart began to change and I suddenly began to value God's ways in new ways that I had not in the past (my desire to live in sin has been decreasing and my desire to follow God, though I am imperfect, has been growing within and it has NOT been something I have had to beat myself into submission with). I later led a very close friend to Christ a few months later with this same gospel message. This person had grown up in a background much like mine and did not understand the gospel in this manner. They also got filled with the Holy Spirit and TOTALLY transformed in a way that is so big that I can hardly describe it in words. They are unrecognizable as a person today, completely changed from who they were by the work of the holy spirit, and by the faith alone gospel message. I am 100% positive that this is the pure, unadulterated gospel message. That God loves us, even WHILE we were still sinners, and died on the cross on OUR behalf to fulfill the righteous requirement that we could not fulfill. And that by simply accepting it as a free gift and placing our faith in what HE has done, we can be made right before him and become born again, being given a new heart and new desires. It is NOT a work of ourselves, nor is it something we can repent our way into or do enough works to prove. We are saved by faith alone, and only faith can do what no other religious work could ever do.
Awesome testimony. The cross is so powerful. I have too sometimes gotten down on myself about works, or lack of, but by doing that we are only diluting what Jesus did on the cross.
Glory to Jesus and surely He is worthy of all the glory and rightfully so. Jesus bless you for sharing with us of His amazing love. Worthy is the Lamb, now and forevermore. 💙🕊💙
photonicannon-Youre deceiving yourself!You cant show faith without good works,to do good works u must be free of a sin lifestyle,then u can do good works to show u have faith, see Eph 2:10 1John 2:5-6! This "I never knew you" was those doing good works to compensate a sinful lifestyle,causing a disconnect to Gods will! U-tubers always snare the masses into submission too them instead of truth!
You can't please God walking in the flesh. You have to walk in the spirit, i.e... be dead to this world and its passions. This is why the road that leads to heaven is small, and not many find it.
@@RustyCreek-qb6gmAnd this is the will of the father who sent me, that of all he has given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it at the last day. (John 6:39. NKJV.) Lordship salvation is work-based salvation which tells us we can lose our salvation. You may not know this, but you choose to believe that Jesus can some how lose that which the Father has given him even though he said I should lose nothing. And choose to believe in your heart he cannot be Heartbroken even when someone has lost their salvation. Because if you believe he's heartbroken, mean you've accepted the fact he has lost someone he loved even though he said I should lose nothing.
@@RustyCreek-qb6gm a babe in Christ may appear to be living in sin, but, that doesn't mean that person isn't saved. What lordship salvation means, and what you're saying is a born-again believer is not saved until that person has grown in the Lord and is no longer living in sin.
He’s not confusing salvation with service. He’s saying once truly converted by the Holy Spirit you will want to live for Christ. You will want to obey his commandments and live a holy life.
The simplest way for a born again Christian to simplify this is to understand the difference between "state" and "status" with God. Your status as "saved" is fixed as soon as you confess your belief in Jesus Christ, you couldn't sin enough to become lost, period. Your "state" in this life is at risk and you can also lose rewards and inheritances, but not your salvation. In 1st Corinthians 5:1-5 we discover that even sleeping with your mother-in-law at worst can get you killed by Satan, but your spirit is saved. Since your spirit is circumcised away from your flesh by the Holy Spirit, and sealed by him, your soul purchased by God, you cannot ever become lost. This is fact for a person in this dispensation only, don't wrest the scriptures to your own destruction.
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: not of works, lest any man should boast. Ephesians 2:8-9 KJV
My life verse! To which my former subsequently evident Calvinist-leaning Baptist Pastor said "there is a verse 10". What does that say? Saved UNTO good works and we SHOULD walk in them!
I could cry when I learn from every video because I know it’s what I’ve read in the word of God but I was nearly deceived by others preaching a different gospel praise the lord I know the true gospel amen thank you my brother in Christ
There in is the key words.... "Earn your salvation"...... There is nothing "You" can do to "Earn" your salvation.. If there was then Lord Jesus Died in vain. Galatians 2:21.... The people who "work" for their salvation,,, Is basically saying,, "you did a great job Lord,, But I just gotta make it a little better by doing this work in your name."" What can you do, that God can't? talk about narcissism.
Your righteous acts are like filthy rags to Him. All have fallen short of God's glory. There is none who are good, not even one. This is why you're saved by His work on the cross, not of yourselves. Don't be like that third servant, "the UNPROFITABLE one", even what he had (the seal of God's promise) was taken away from him. He called the Lord "Lord" and God referred to him as "SERVANT", yet he was cast into outer darkness along with the unbelievers.
At the end of the day Pastor John is a living, breathing, flawed human being just like the rest of us. I dont agree with all of his teachings but many of them are very good.
To anyone that reads these words: Jesus Loves You. John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him, should not perish, but have everlasting life.
The gospel message in the bible is very clear. Many people simply reject it and decide to believe otherwise because of their pride. Pride has always been the problem ever since the devil. If you're humble, you would never think to trust in your works to be saved or stay saved. But if you're proud, you will think "Surely I am good enough, I am keeping my salvation by my great works, look at me!". That's putting it simple.
J. Mack is spot on. Listen, if you are saved BY GRACE and FILLED WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT you will move differently. Why? Because the Holy Spirit is moving IN YOU so YOU do things that bring glory to the Father. I have no clue why this is so hard to understand.
Agreed! They don't want to understand.....They want eternal life with no commitment to the Lord and they can't stand it when someone, like MacArthur, points out the folly of it. They no longer tolerate sound teaching....
@@theshockoftruth8222 Yep! We just took these brothers and sisters to Church! People-God clearly calls us to Holy Living. It’s all over scripture. The “Holy Living” isn’t what saves you-Faith because of Grace does that…but we are called by Paul to wage war with the sin in our lives. To examine ourselves with fear and trembling. The stakes are too high to try to just cruise control through the pearly gates.
Amen! Jesus Christ is my justification for He took all my sin and gave me His righteousness "for with the heart man believeth unto righteousness" = God's righteousness! Keep preaching the truth brother!
It's interesting that MacArthur appeals to James's quote that faith without works is dead in order to support his contention that we are saved by our obedience, but he doesn't mention James 2:10 -- "For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it." Does MacArthur really believe that he has merited salvation by his perfect obedience, since when it comes to salvation, nothing short of perfect obedience will suffice. Martin Luther once said that our greatest sin is presuming that we are righteous. It seems that MacArthur is guilty of that, and encouraging his listeners to also be guilty of presuming that they are righteous.
Personally, I've never seen someone using James 2 to justify works salvation ever post James 2:10. I've seen many people quote James 2: 11-26 to justify works, but conveniently leave out the 10th verse. There was some yahoo on Jacksmacks channel a couple of days ago that did this. Couldn't believe it, he posted verses 11-26 but left out verse 10 lol. It's no different than people who say we basically have to stop being carnal because 1 Corinthians 6: 9-10 tells us so, but they leave out verse 11 where it tells us we are washed, justified, and sanctified.
These people are insane. Even if they decided to keep the law perfectly, (which is impossible) they still wouldnt get to heaven because they’ve sinned in the past, prior to keeping the law. Faith in Christ is the only sufficient way to get rid of ALL sin for all time, once and for all.
The book of James speaks to people already saved. A famous one is even the devils believe and tremble. James is showing they are not lost but they need to step up and act on their faith. Kinda like a husband not stepping up in a marriage not putting any effort it.A counselor might say your marriage is dead you need to put more effort into it the marriage to make it healthy again. The marriage is not over the wife has not left. The marriage is a marriage it’s just a dead marriage because the husband is not putting any work in to it. Also I have seen many on the Lordship side say Romans does not speak to the lost becasue they want to shut down Romans 10:9. I have always not understood also to the ones that take that as salvation to get obeying him as lord to be saved. That is not what is it saying you are just declaring him Lord. I recommend verse by verse ministry. Stephan Armstrong is reformed but he is great and does not preach lordship salvation.
Nah-laughing at the idea that someone thinks that a fella, who consistently distorts or dismisses bible passages which disagree with his heterodox soteriological doctrine, is the best internet bible teacher. It’s especially amusing when this same “Bible teacher” turns around and makes videos accusing others of being “unsaved” or “little devils” for bringing up Biblical teachings that he himself has denied since they didn’t survive intact when he strained them through his predetermined interpretive grid. But on second thought, I did once believe the same as this “Bible teacher”, employing the same interpretations and arguments in dismissing passages I found problematic. So yeah, in a sense I am laughing at myself-I’m laughing at the me from 30 years ago 😂
He is a man that confuses discipleship with salvation. He is married to Lordship salvation. He himself really doesn’t know if he is saved until he dies. He’s hoping his good works has saved him and there is the terminal error. I pray he will place his faith in Christ alone unto salvation before he breaths his last.
Paul said im amazed you have gone to another gospel which is not a gospel. Ono you have discerned the difference. Your a young man and im 68 nearly and have only recently understood the difference between Salvation and living in the faith. You have confirmed what was just revealed to me. Hallelujah. Keep preaching it young man. The lord is pleased with you...amen
yikes!! this man is a false teacher, deceptively splicing clips of a Biblical shepherd trying to lead the sheep astray. macarthur does NOT preach what this man claims he does. mark and avoid!!!
“The only thing that makes you acceptable to God is a pattern of obedience”. I thought the blood of Christ reconciled and justified us before God. Oh wait, John MaCarthur doesn’t believe the blood saves you either
Hearing him utter that one sentence, I would have jumped up and headed for the door. I wonder how many in the congregation were just fine with that heresy.
3:02 "And you don't look at a *_past event,_* you look at the character of your life..." Interpreting this MacArthureeze, you don't look at the WORK of Christ on the Cross as your salvation, you look to YOUR past and present WORKS!
He has been warned and reprimanded for many decades and he refuses to repent. He is now in Satan's hands . Pray for the people who are earnestly seeking God , and instead are getting this evil Reformed Theology. Blessings friend
@@anabanana7599 We really do not know that JM is in Satan' hands...even though many have told him and yet he is still blind and can not see, it does not mean we cast him to hell. We really do know know the plans that Jesus has for each person on earth. Many across the world have come to believe the truth of Christ for salvation only before passing away and I pray this applies also to JM too and all the others whom teach a false gospel. I believe thay Jesus does use people like John MacArthur in ways that we may never know on this side of earth. We really should be praying for the lost until our last breath and the reminder applies to me as well. I can imagine that behind the scenes Jesus is working all the false narratives for His good in the long run. It is always a good thing to point people to the truth of Christ, no matter how long it takes, while having the faith that with Christ all things are possible, even for JM. Blessings to you and yours, in Jesus name, Amen.
@@John_Lete Macarthur is a heretic. This is from his book, notice the date, 1976. He's been a false teacher for a very long time. He believes it wasn't His blood that was shed for ALL of humanity that saves but His death. I can cite Scripture after Scripture that teaches truth. “It was His death that was efficacious, not His blood. . . Christ did not bleed to death. The shedding of blood had nothing to do with bleeding. . . it simply means death. . . Nothing in His human blood saves...It is not His blood that I love. . . it is Him. It is not His bleeding that saved me, but His dying." (MacArthur, ‘Not His Bleeding but His Dying’, 1976)
@@John_Lete Jmac is a blood denying antichrist who will be responsible for sending many earnest God seeking people to hell. He has been warned many times and he refuses in his arrogance to REPENT and turn to Jesus in faith . He teaches a false 5 point gospel which is devoid of biblical truth. He is in essence a leader of a cult. The bible is very clear on how to handle these false prophets, they are to be called out, marked and Avoided. I believe he is under demonic inspiration. Sorry .
@@lisaj4248 Amen, there is no remission of sin without the shedding of blood. I often say if it was the death only then God would have instructed the Israelites to nail the carcasses of the lambs to the door posts . Also , Jmac misses one very important point. It's not human blood that was flowing through Jesus veins, it was the very blood of God Almighty Himself. Blessings sister 💜
John starts off making sense then quickly contradicts himself. Clearly the issue was not with their works but their trust in their own works. This passage is a decisive blow against Lordship Salvation, yet they use it to teach it. Ironic...
Amen brother. Its remarkable how the same people who boast about God's Sovereignty in Salvation will then turn 180 degrees and say that man must "make" Christ the Lord of their life.
@@rwdchannel2901 I never trust a Bible that has someones name plastered on it . Ruckman is another wolf who's "study bible" should be used for kindling . 👍
What is amazing to me is reading all the comments from people who make such bold claims about what MacArthur believes, which he most certainly doesn't believe or teach. Not one thing that he has said in this clip (or in any of the other sermons that he has preached, or books that he has written) makes the claim that our salvation is based on our merit, in any measure. On the contrary, he emphatically preaches against our salvation being merited by anyone other than Christ Himself, and by Christ alone. I am amazed at all of these comments from so many people who speak as if they themselves sit in the righteous judgement seat of God. I certainly do not adhere to every single one of MacArthur's theological convictions, but that being said, it is not right to misrepresent anyone in what they believe, which is what so many of you accusers in these comments are doing. It blows my mind, really, as to how quick we can be to condemn others. God, have mercy on us!
The problem is he could be confusing others on how to be genuinely saved. When he says things like , " it isn't those who SAY but those who DO". When actually becoming born again saved is about those who have trusting FAITH. Then AFTERWARDS, the person has the holy spirit to help their desires to be more in line with God( walk out obedience as best as we can while here.)
@@sunnydaze1185 macarthur isn't confusing others on "how to be genuinely saved" for several reasons. first, if you listen to his sermons, you won't be. it's this deceptive content creator splicing together clips and filling in the blanks by putting words into macarthur's mouth, trying to smear our brother in Christ and a true shepherd of the sheep that he would like to lead astray, as his father would have him do. second reason is that there is NO "how to" on being "saved" Jesus addresses this twice with Nicodemus in John 3:1-8 the answer is clear, there is nothing you can do, rather salvation is all of God.
John MacArthur is NOT saying you have to WORK to EARN your salvation… It’s pretty tedious how many people misinterpret what he’s saying. Don’t you understand ?? This is in RESPONSE to years of FALSE evangelism, FALSE conversion…. The sinners prayer - is the modern heresy… Making a profession of faith, and then seeing no evidences of regeneration over time - then are we going to continue to presume that person is saved… ?? years go by, but yet no changes in the direction of their life, and they look just like world…? What he is talking about IS the EVIDENCES of genuine rebirth… NOT that works saves you..
Thank you for sharing, lets trust the Holy Spirit will continue to open hearts with the true gospel of grace, including those in dead churches, God bless you and yours.🙏
The ONLY thing that makes me acceptable to God is my Faith in his son through this covenant he has offer by his blood. It is CHRIST’s life then which I get credit for. Imputed Righteousness is a gift. I take it!!! I am a Born Again Child of God whether I have the best day or the Worst day. Christ is my assurance! Not me!!!!!
The majority haven't even read a Bible, and just listened to that heretic flap his lips. The ones who have read "a Bible" are reading his corrupt version more than likely and why they are as lost as he is unfortunately.
Our devotion to Christ shown thru works cannot and does not add to His work of saving. To believe so is to mock Christ's work upon the Cross, thinking we can add to it which is impossible and not necessary. We are, however, saved unto good works, as an outworking of the Holy Spirit in our hearts and lives towards others. It is a testimony to the world of His presence in this world.
Amen , MacArthur and others like him are the workers of iniquity ( sin that looks like righteousness) Jesus referred to in Matt 7:23. He's trusting in his sin repentance and others wonderful works done in Jesus' name in lieu of faith in the finished work of Christ.
trentthompson-No!Meaning youre a worker of your feelings without truth! Feelings are our own worst enemy,such holding on to appeals to your carnal mind from this video!
Iniquity is literally lawlessness - thinking the commands of God don't apply to you or don't matter. If you are regenerated with the new nature, you want to please God.
I'm not sure I agree with this, but there is a passage in Titus 2:11-14 that says this: 11 For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation to all people, 12 instructing us to deny ungodliness and worldly desires and to live sensibly, righteously, and in a godly manner in the present age, 13 looking for the blessed hope and the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Christ Jesus, 14 who gave Himself for us to redeem us from every lawless deed, and to purify for Himself a people for His own possession, eager for good deeds. I think the passage speaks for itself, as Gods word usually does,. God's Grace is free, but there seems to be an expected behaviour after accepting this great gift that the Mercy of God will train you to complete. I'm not well versed in this Lordship theology, but why wouldnt you obey God's word after recieving his mercy? That should be the power of Grace. The questiuon arise: Are you an ungreatfull child of God?
@@OnoDiamante I still don't see how one can call what John Macarthur said was a lie. 1 John 1:6-7 6#If we say we have fellowship with him while we walk in darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth. 7#But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus his Son cleanses us from all sin.
Crystal clear teaching the truth as usual! Thank you Diamanté! John saying “and you don’t look at a post event” John means the past event when you heard and believed the gospel and were saved in that millisecond.
I used to be a Calvinist but Praise God He got me out of it. They constantly confuse Justification with Sanctification. You are so right, they are two separate events in our walk with the Lord. Keep up the great work Onorato.
Lordship salvation is not the Calvinist view on soteriology. This is a _Reformed_ *Baptist* belief. They are not true Calvinists, and are not representative of Reformed theology. Just because someone subscribes to the 5 points of TULIP, does not make them Reformed. Many Baptists hold to Lordship salvation. It's not exclusive to the ones that follow TULIP. You will not generally find many Presbyterians that follow this view though.
@@ihiohoh2708with respect, I do not think you quite know what a Reformed Baptist is. John MacArthur is absolutely not a reformed baptist. He holds to calvinistic soteriology. But he is a dispensationalist. The lordship vs "free grace" movement (antinomians like Zane Hodges) controversy was a dispensationalist Baptist conflict. Covenantalist Baptists do not agree. They hold to the confessional view. No one who knows anything about Spurgeon's theology would accuse him of either being antinomian or holding to a form of lordship salvation. He was a 1689 Baptist. I hold the same view.
The biggest error that they botch is imputation. Remember when God put Abraham to sleep and took his place in the covenant? God "imputed" his righteousness, Abraham had no part in it at all.
Here it is, guys. We talk about this topic as we do other theological ones with a focus on man rather than a focus on God. The question is not whether believers have to be sure to perform works to have salvation, for salvation is by faith alone in the work of the Lord Jesus Christ. The better question is, what is the character of true salvation? Does true salvation produce inward and outward evidence of a submission to Christ? Or can a true submission to Christ be impotent and produce nothing? That is the important distinction to make. We have to describe what true faith (which is a gift of God) is like. It is not man trying harder to do more. It is man receiving faith and the Holy Spirit doing His work in a believer. Works are not earning salvation but evidence that someone is alive in Christ. Remember if a fruit tree bares no fruit you cannot assume it is alive.
Wow, what a good explanation to rebuke salvation by works. Thank you for such a good word to expose such a deceitful twisting of scriptures. I can understand how people can be so deceived. I was deceived myself for many years, but over the last several years I have come out of that. It takes time to recognize that and to come out of it. It is videos like this that make my day. It's early in the day, and it looks much brighter already thank you!
Same here, I used to defend MacArthur but now realize the guys has bastardized the gospel and made it a work. How on earth does this guy think we can commit to obey Jesus Christ other than by believing on his name and work for us ? We cannot, if I could obey the law I would not even need a saviour, and the folly that we should commit ourselves to obeying Christ by obeying his commandments is beyond belief. MacArthur should know better and realize, no man including himself can commit to obey the moral law and keep that commitment.
@@henrka Yes I know what you are saying. I must have had a veil over my eyes until I realized that even though I was trying to obey I still knew in my heart that I lacked salvation, so I looked elsewhere without bios. I thought to look at saved by grace alone and found that I was wrong, Thank GOD I was wrong and now I know I am saved by grace alone. I believe they have a veil over their eyes because of pried. Satan's biggest sin was pride, and he still has a veil over his eyes too, at least it looks that way to me.
@@henrkaAnd, he seems to overlook Romans 2 that reveals that even the most moral person needs Christ as much as the ones who suppress the truth in unrighteousness! (Romans 1)
Exactly, to me proper repentance includes acknowledging our inability to obey God’s moral law. For MacArthur repentance is a commitment to obey God’s moral law, which he cannot keep. It makes a joke of repentance turning it into a New Year’s resolution, that we break within days. @@graftme3168
So if John McArthur is wrong then we basically just stop going to church!! Don't tell anyone about God or Jesus!! Just be self centered and run faster than your brother and just think that you're saved and indeed you just might be wrong!! However if you have the Key that's love!! It's no longer works but Genuine love!! When Jesus said what he said about the idea of departing from him!! He meant to say if you're lead by him you gracefully bear fruit that ultimately shows your identity as a followers of Jesus!! That is a soul that loves Jesus and his people!!
Here is my question to the Free Grace thinkers. Do you really believe that person can believe the Gospel IN THEIR HEART and be totally unchanged by it? Because the essence of Lordship Salvation is not that works will save you. Its that IF you have been saved it will be evident in how you live. That is scriptural.
@Onorato Diamante I think you're confusing conditions with results. Works are not a condition. But they are a result. There is no number or quantity to state "yup, that's enough to serve as evidence you're saved". It's about the direction of one's life. The priorities. "Is the trajectory of my life moving towards holiness?"
Here's another way to look at it. Changing ones life is not necessary for salvation but salvation will necessarily change one's life. We don't do the work that changes us. The Holy Spirit does. Unless you believe that The Holy Spirit can dwell within a person and it not be a life changing experience.
@@Theo_Skeptomai And that is why you are not saved because you do not believe on the Lord Jesus Christ who died for our sins, buried, and rose from the dead. Understand the truth.
The terrible thing is that these people weren’t just “sayers” they were also “doers”. They said “have we not done many things in your name?” That alone just undid his whole message.
He is still a brother in Christ as far as you know though. Why ridicule him if by the grace of God he has led and encouraged many to Christ. Keep in mind he is really old. Are we any better ultimately? Biblically speaking? If we get anything right it’s the grace of God working in us.
@@ChkynBoy how so? What is it you think he teaches falsely about? It was not a kindness btw. Your comment makes it sound like you hold yourself above him.
May Jesus help him that he may be able to see the truth of Christ. We do not know the hearts of man...many folks are sincere when it comes to speaking about Jesus, yet many have the blindfold over their eyes and can not see. All we can really do is pray to our Father for His will being done that their heart may know the heart of Christ. 💙
1:05 "For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge. For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and *going about to establish their own righteousness,* have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God." (Rom 10:2-3 KJV)
@OnoDiamante This video is an excellent exposition of the Bible's teachings which correct the grave error of "Lordship Salvation" by John MacArthur, Ray Comfort, and others. P.S.: I hope you are healing well from your leg surgery. I pray often for the Lord's continued rich blessings on your life and strategic evangelistic ministry and I've been also praying for your complete healing from your surgery too!---Bible Professor Al, Ph.D., Th.D.
It is so hard to speak sense into the other camp of "Christians'" who are not abiding in Christ's work alone. It's really very simple. Those who have spiritual pride will still place their faith in their own good works regardless of how many times they read the Bible. Those who have no spiritual pride immediately place their faith in God, who promised and finished what we can never do.
Because of pride, that is. According to Isaiah 64:6, "our righteousness are fithy rages", therefore they're no good to get us to Heaven. Only the Savior will get us there by believing in His name (Acts 16:31).
love your videos❤❤John 6:40 King James Version And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.
I used to listen to him, but always felt like he and a very select few would be saved because I wasn't good enough. I'm glad I stopped, just hope I'm right. I'll be happy just getting in lol.
2 Corinthians 11:14-15 King James Version 14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. 15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
Amen brother. It's so simple to believe in the gospel of Jesus Christ. I wish people could put their pride aside and believe. But when people say they believe in Christ and add their so called good works to it, it is trampling Jesus under foot. And there is really nothing worse.
Amen. Pride is the worst and the sad thing is that we all fall short in one way or another. There is no better place than the foundation of Christ; having His assurance for salvation. Glory to Jesus for He is truly the one and only God whom loves His children. In Jesus name; Father break every chain that binds us and bless us with Your heart, eyes and wisdom. Amen. 🕊
@@ebbb365 exactly this brother! Deep down we want to believe that we are more worthy of entering heaven because we are better than others or do more for God. Or been seen as Gods favourite. God doesn’t have a ranking clipboard in heaven 😕. He doesn’t judge us like we judge man by character or how good we do!
That's why they're trying to enter Heaven in another way like a "thief,"according to the Bible not knowing (or should have known) that Jesus is the way.
this guy is a false teacher. he's clearly being deceptive about a shepherd, so I am pretty sure he isn't just misunderstanding the word, but trying to lead sheep astray. mark and avoid!
no.... but I guess you could think that if you don't understand the many Scriptures concerning God's sovereignty and the plain "calvanist" reading of them.
The part I hate is that he teaches that you have to look to yourself and not Jesus for salvation and that makes it so discouraging and makes you have self condemnation and doubt I’m so glad I stopped listening to lordship salvation preachers and instead I’m believing and trusting in God for my salvation not men.
Keep reading and you'll see that faith without works is dead. 1 John 3 4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. 5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin. 6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him. 7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous. 8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. 9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. 10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.
@@Raymond1C I already replied to you elsewhere but stop terrorizing believers with your improper interpretation. Copy and pasted from my other reply: Believers in Jesus who trust in His Blood for their salvation have Body, Soul and Spirit. The Spirit cannot sin, whereas the flesh can and does sin. We are awaiting the redemption of our bodies at the rapture. We are told to follow the Spirit, because it cannot sin. We are told if we do Sin, Jesus is our advocate. We are told not to grieve the Holy Spirit of Promise (God cannot lie) because we can do so through sin or walking after the desires of the flesh. 1 John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. Galatians 5:16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. Galatians 5:17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. Romans 7:24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death? Romans 7:25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin. Romans 8:23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body. We will be chastened if we sin, and Jesus will plead for us: 1 John 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: 1 John 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world. Hebrews 12:6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth. Hebrews 12:7 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not? Hebrews 12:8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons. Hebrews 7:25 Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them. The New Spirit that cannot sin and the Holy Spirit: 1 Peter 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever. 1 John 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. 2 John 1:2 For the truth's sake, which dwelleth in us, and shall be with us for ever. Ephesians 1:12 That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ. Ephesians 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, Ephesians 1:14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory. Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Ephesians 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. Romans 4:5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. Romans 11:6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work. Ephesians 4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption. Hebrews 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. The redemption of our bodies: 1 Corinthians 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 1 Corinthians 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 1 Corinthians 15:53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 1 Corinthians 15:54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory. 1 Corinthians 15:55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory? 1 Corinthians 15:56 The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law. 1 Corinthians 15:57 But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ. 1 Thessalonians 4:13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. 1 Thessalonians 4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. 1 Thessalonians 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. 1 Thessalonians 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 1 Thessalonians 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 1 Thessalonians 4:18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.
Soooooooo many Lordship salvationist in this comment section. The true born-again Christians can discern the difference between salvation by grace alone through faith alone in the blood atonement alone for salvation...Period! Nothing added nothing detracted. Those who are Lordship salvationist garble the gospel of grace with works-righteousness obedience works for proof of their salvation so-called. They are back-loading works to the simplicity of the gospel. Making it another gospel a false gospel. The sad thing about Lordship salvationist is that they cannot discern the difference; and they misapply verses and habitually take verses out of context, like James 2:17...faith without works is dead. They actually think that one MUST show forth works (fruit bearing) in order to really be saved. This is what is meant by back-loading works-righteousness obedience works for proof of salvation so-called. They are either very spiritually and biblically babes in Christ, and have been deceived by listening to Lordship salvation false doctrine. Or... They are not truly saved, lacking the Holy Spirit dwelling inside of them; thus having no spiritual discernment to UNDERSTAND the true gospel of grace alone. John MacArthur is a Lordship salvationist; a deceiver who clearly teaches false gospel of total surrender all to the Lordship of Christ in order to really be saved. THAT'S WORKS PEOPLE. Lordship salvation is a heresy of great perportions. It mixes Justification with Sanctification, salvation with decipleship. Thus causing great confusion and teaching heresy. Galatians 1:6-9. 6. I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: 7. Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. 8. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. 9. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed (damned). John MacArthur Ray non-Comfort Paul Washer Voddie Baucham and many many others are proponents of and teach Lordship salvation heresy. Romans 16:17-18. 17. Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. 18. For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.
I think it is YOU hyper-grace types that are perverting the Gospel and preaching a demonic counterfeit that leaves people unsaved and still in their sins.
@@theshockoftruth8222 You must be a Lordship salvationist. Back-loading works-righteousness obedience works for proof of salvation so-called. Salvation is a GIFT 🎁! It CANNOT BE EARNED or added to by efforts of a individual. If so, that would then make salvation a Debt to be earned by. Have you not read the scriptures? Ephesians 2:8-9. 8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. Titus 3:5-7. 5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost; 6 Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour; 7 That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life. Romans 4:1-5. 1 What shall we say then that Abraham our father, as pertaining to the flesh, hath found? 2 For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God. 3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness. 4 Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt. 5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. Romans 11:6. 6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work. ❤Romans 3:21-28. 21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; 22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: 23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; 24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: 25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; 26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus. 27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith. 28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.
@@The-GreenHornet - What you would call “backloading” the Bible calls “Fruit”. While it is true that salvation is obtained completely by faith apart from the works of the law, the result of real, genuine faith (as opposed to mere mental assent), will be FRUIT. There is no way around verses like this that explain it in exacting detail: Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. (Matt 7:17-21)
@@theshockoftruth8222 SMH...You obviously can't read a passage in CONTEXT. The passage that you quoted is Matthew 7:15-17. Jesus is speaking about false prophets! Look at his warning in verse 15. Beware of false prophets... This passage isn't dealing with real and counterfeit Christians; like Lordship salvationist twist it to mean. Jesus is describing those false prophets who will boast in themselves by saying... Have we not prophesied in your name, and in your name cast out demons, and in your name DONE MANY WONDERFUL WORKS (patting themselves on their backs, boast boast). Then Jesus will profess unto them, I never knew you depart from me ye workers of iniquity (Matthew 7:21-23). Read the whole CONTEXT of the passage. Stop cherry picking proof text for a pretext to fit your theology. Fruit bearing, as you say is the proof of real salvation. Try looking at the thief on the cross. Did he bear any fruit? No! Yet he simply believed on Jesus Christ as the messiah. Jesus said...today, ye shall be with me in paradise. All through the gospel of John the word BELIEVE is the focal point to have eternal life. No repentance or fruit bearing is even mentioned in the whole gospel of John. The Philippine jailer asked... What must I do to be saved? The Apostle Paul said...BELIEVE ON THE LORD JESUS CHRIST AND THOU SHALL BE SAVED, and thy house (as they believe in Jesus with simple faith in Him alone. Scriptures are proving you Lordship salvationist WRONG when read in CONTEXT. Ephesians 2:8-9. Any fruit bearing needed there???? How about... Titus 3:5-7. Any fruit bearing needed there to really be saved????? Nope! All by grace alone through faith alone in trusting in Jesus Christ alone through his blood atonement alone for salvation...Period!
@@The-GreenHornet - But the thief on the cross did bear good fruit. He told the other thief to shut up and then proclaimed Jesus innocence. If the thief in the cross had borne bad fruit in his short time, he would have been rejected.
So crystal clear Brother! Thank you for your page. Hope it blesses many! The true Gospel is absolutely amazing! Has anyone not listened to the lyrics of amazing grace or what!? Keep preaching brother! Can’t be any clearer once you understand the truth!
Recognising Lord Jesus’s lordship isn’t wrong he is lord and therefore the one who should be obeyed. However salvation is definitely by grace through faith And not of ourselves. Yes we are known by our works but we are NOT saved by them for we a saved through grace by faith alone. Grace+Faith = Salvation + sanctification by the Holy Spirit + fruits of godly work.
Wow some of you guys in the comments are awesome😂👍🏻 It’s like a round’ table discussion that I learn from. Praise God🙏🏻 I agree with Onorato. No other way makes any sense, been at this multiple decades. May God our Father Bless you all🙏🏻❤️
First time listener. I always question people's motives when they clip sentences from someone elses videos. Not just short sections of videos, but sentences. Then make a long video attacking. I believe that is wrong, only my observation. I know you are highly educated and very knowledgable and I am not so you are probably going to destroy my comment. But I don't mean any harm. I"m actually exhausted at the bickering and finger pointing, I'm right you are wrong mentality. I grew up in the streets of the East Bay ca. Been to jail, prison, abandoned by mom. All the strong weapons of the enemy, but I still wish you peace and love in your lives.
Onorato thank you for what you are doing! Truly John M. Is a cult leader. He has access to the same verse we do, and proves he doesn't believe them. For example, as we know: The only acceptable sacrifice for sin, is the Blood of God's Son, God on the cross. And we are only acceptable to The Father.......if we believe this. Unfortunately this deceptive man may eat the following words he stated at the 3:10 mark. ......." The only thing that makes you acceptable to god, is a pattern of obedience to the word of god. That is the product of repentance, and genuine faith in jesus christ, and truly abandoning your life in obedience to his lordship." Yes ironic! Not only does Jesus..... not know John; but, John does not know Jesus ......... John is worshiping a different jesus......John is worshiping himself! Father draw him to your sacrificial Son; draw him to you.
lordship salvation is the straw man that no one believes or preaches including macarthur, but deceivers like this man would use to lead the sheep astray. you are being led, careful where you end up. mark and avoid.
I still cannot figure out how this guy has such a huge church with so much cash rolling in from all over the world and yet is so far off base with his gospel theology.
Charles Spurgeon was called the prince of preachers and taught limited atonement, denied the king james, and all kinds of heresies. Joe major exposed him. Jmac to me just seems like a modern day Spurgeon.
@@SSNBN777 That's right. The narrow way to life is through faith alone in Christ alone. All others ways that 99.9% people believe they can have a loving relationship with God through their own works of achievement or of self righteousness will be turned away and will never be know by our Lord.
It is the believer that is saved, not the doers of the law. Roman's 3:20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
How many works did the thief upon the cross do in order to be with Jesus that same day in Paradise? All he said was, Lord, remember me when You come into Your kingdom. That thief had faith and that thief is with Jesus in heaven at this very moment. Something to think about! What saith the Scriptures.
"Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the Kingdom of Heaven." Being poor in spirit is acknowledging we are spiritually bankrupt sinners who need God. There is literally nothing we can do to save ourselves and earn our way to Heaven. Lordship salvation=pride and pride comes before the fall.
Another excellent scripture breakdown. John MacArthur is an epic heretic! And how ironic the very verses he was presenting will be spoken to him his very self.
Obedience comes from the new nature. Jesus said this in a Kingdom parable - "But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me" (Luke 19:27). The new nature where the Holy Spirit comes and lives inside you makes Jesus your Lord. We aren't saved by works but are born again/regenerated, given a changed nature (Ephesians 2:1-10) thus given a zeal for good works (Titus 2:14). Jude 8 - "Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities." That dominion they despise is the dominion of Christ in Jude 25. (By the way, Christ/Messiah means "Savior King.")
Really good video and well explained. I’ll be honest though. I’m tired of seeing people attack John McArthur and I feel that is being bred in the comments. Also, to be fair, John mentioned obedience is a product of genuine faith in Jesus to quote what he said in context. I like this video a lot, and it definitely blessed me. I think the only thing that confuses me is the title, because it makes it seem like Jesus is not our Lord, when He is for sure. I think maybe defining Lordship salvation at the beginning would be helpful because I think some people interpreted as “we don’t have to obey God”. Just my thoughts
Lordship salvation is a heresy, and I would say even after being saved we cannot commit to the Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord Jesus Christ commits to us, but let nobody be so foolish as to make a vow of obedience or anything similar, it would turn out like a new year's resolution, we will break our vows within a few days. The gospel is about Christ's commitment to us, not our commitment to Christ as MacArthur states.
lordship salvation is the straw man that no one believes or preaches including macarthur, but deceivers like this man would use to lead the sheep astray. mark and avoid.
I think the biggest mistake people make about interpreting Matthew 7:23 is not talking about the actual meaning of the word "knew" you. This is the very same word that marry used in the first chapter of Luke when the angel came to her and said she was going to be with child. And she replied how can this be for I've never known a man. It's just my humble non pastor's opinion that the key to this verse is knowing what that word means. This is a deep abiding intimate knowledge of God. But no one ever talks about that aspect of this passage. I'm 58 years old and I've never heard anybody talk about what that Greek word here means. Knowing what that word means changes the emphasis of this passage. We need to be spending time getting to know God. We need to be spending time in his word and in prayer.
I very much agree with you Onorato! The delineation between free grace in our salvation and discipleship is set apart. According to John MacArthur in all actuality can no one be saved. Truth! I was reading MacArthur's book, The Gospel According To Jesus and he says the same thing there! This was about three years ago. I stopped reading the book right there! I said out loud well then who can be saved? I appreciate your message here today. I pray many will be rescued from MacArthur works based false gospel.
If God required works he would be a narcissist and you can never please a narcissist. I lived with Morman's as a teenager for 2 year and it was exhausting drove me away from from the truth until I was in my 40's. I just prayed one day for the truth and I was set free. Only been a Christian for 2 years and my faith continues to grow in my saviour Jesus christ. God bless
The confusion lies in many people conflating justification and sanctification, which are two distinct aspects of the Christian walk. Paul explains these concepts in great detail throughout the New Testament, and I’m surprised more people don’t recognize this clear distinction. Justification is by faith alone-faith is what justifies us. However, the enduring faith we display throughout our lives, evidenced by our obedience and works, is the process of sanctification. This is an ongoing battle that serves as proof of our faith but is not what justifies us. The key point is that if you’re not actively engaged in the process of sanctification after being justified by faith, as Paul continually emphasizes (Romans 7:15-25, Galatians 5:17, Philippians 3:12-14, 1 Corinthians 9:27), it’s a sign that you may not have had genuine faith to begin with. Mental assent and true faith are not the same thing. Too often, people mistake faith for mere mental agreement, then wonder why their lives haven’t changed. To clarify: Yes, faith alone (sola fide) is what justifies or saves you, but sanctification is the evidence that your faith is real. As James 2:26 states, "For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also." It’s a simple, distinct concept-not as convoluted as it’s often made out to be.
It's quite telling that MacArthur contrasts between those who profess and those who do, completely ignoring those who believe. This is how he shows that faith is not important to him because he probably doesn't have it, except for faith in himself.
YES! I said out loud when hearing that, " it isn't those who SAY OR DO, BUT THOSE WHO BELIEVE ( trusting faith on Christ 100 percent covering our salvation).
Does John know he has to be of sinless perfection (which is impossible & only Jesus was) if he’s gonna rely on his behavior instead of God’s gift of Grace.
macarthur knows very well, he preaches it. lordship salvation is the straw man that no one believes or preaches including macarthur, but deceivers like this man would use to lead the sheep astray. mark and avoid.
If you really listen. Macarthur contradicts himself and basically says you must believe and have faith in Christ but that you just do, do, do things to prove obedience. That is the law.
Faith produces works. Not your works, but the works of faith. That's how you know that you have the living faith, not a dead faith. Living faith works, moves, speaks. It's alive!
nope. you are really listening to some selective clips spliced together by a deceptive content creator for clicks, or for leading the sheep astray, doing the work of his father. you decide.
Amen 🙏 brother in Christ ✝ God bless The will of the Father which is in heaven that is found in Matthew 7:21 in the Holy Bible (Word Of God) that we must do to enter into the kingdom of heaven is to believe on the Son of God (The Death, Burial And Resurrection Of The Lord Jesus Christ) which is found in John 6:39-40 in the Holy Bible (Word Of God).
Thank you, Onorato, for plainly and concisely clarifying the difference between salvation and discipleship. I'm going to be frank. I believed that salvation is by through faith and grace alone, but after coming across a lot of different videos on soteriology ranging from Protestants, Catholics, and Orthodox, I started to confuse myself and started questioning my initial beliefs. But as you have elucidated by the gift of the Holy Spirit, the Holy Spirit also has removed the veil that started to cloud my mind with all these contradictory teachings that works is also required to prove my salvation. When we look at the scope of the Gospel and what Jesus taught, it honestly shouldn't be this difficult to understand how we can be saved. If salvation was meant to be so esoteric, then we all would be doomed (and it would go against the fact that God "desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth" and that He is "not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance"). But what I've come to realize is that the root of all this contradiction and confusion is the fact that Christians are starting to confuse salvation with discipleship. Rather than this ongoing continuance of ignorance and pointing fingers at one another, I pray that the Holy Spirit will allow all followers of Christ, whether it be Orthodox, Catholic, or Protestant, to come together and establish once and for all what salvation is and what discipleship is, and then start preaching that Truth moving forward. Lastly, what sets Christianity apart from all other worldly religions when it comes to salvation is that it is a gift freely given by God because of His mercy and grace. There is absolutely no amount of good works anyone can do to be saved or be worthy of being saved. All other religions claim that one can be saved through good works. Why is it that Christianity is regressing back towards this idea of works-based salvation? It certainly has to be Satan trying to deceive us one last time since the work of the cross has already been accomplished. May God open our hearts and minds to the truth!
I’d argue that they don’t acknowledge Jesus as Savior, only Lord. Why would they need him as Savior if they believe their works will get them to heaven? The death, burial, and resurrection means nothing to them as the whole point was God’s work to save them, yet they don’t believe they need it. Everyone and everything will proclaim him as Lord in the end, but only those who proclaim him as Savior will be in heaven.
Only those who stop sinning will be going to the kingdom of God. 1 John 3 4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. 5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin. 6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him. 7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous. 8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. 9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. 10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.
@ranger8435 John 8 34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin. 35 And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever. 36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.
Great message. We get saved by Grace through Faith FIRST. Then, as we receive the gift of the Holy Spirit, He helps us to in discipleship and to do good works. Blessings 😊
this is literally macarthur's teaching, straight from the Word of God. the deceptive content creator is slandering a true shepherd for clicks with deceptive editing, or to lead the sheep astray, whichever but he needs to repent.
@@Taterstiltskin It sounds like Jmc is adding works to Faith as a requirement for salvation. Salvation is by faith alone. AFTER a person is saved, God would want works manifest through the Holy Spirit. The crux was “I never knew you”. Blessings
so you're saying you've never heard johnny mac preach, only deceivers like this splice together clips to attack fake straw men and smear faithful preachers. gotcha.
EXCELLENT explanation of the Gospel which is the GIFT OF ETERNAL LIFE through the finished work of our Saviour Jesus Christ through faith alone, through Christ alone, plus NOTHING ELSE.(My opinion lordship salvation IE 5 Point Calvinism is a False heretical gospel that offers a works righteousness gospel that can never lead anyone to a saving knowledge of Jesus Christ. I would like to know how one earns the gift of God. Romans 6: 23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. The moment one attempts to earn the gift of Eternal Life it is no longer a gift and they must pay the cost, death in hell eternally separated from God because they refused the Gift of God. Jesus Christ paid that penalty of sin which is death for the entire world which Calvinist also deny. )
John MacArthur cited 2 Corinthians 13:5 and James 2, I explain both below:
2 Corinthians 13:5 th-cam.com/video/ynbNWsiXNS4/w-d-xo.html
James 2: th-cam.com/video/usCuIboBxgI/w-d-xo.html
Keep drilling this into our heads so we can preach to our people
"The only thing that makes you acceptable to God".....
The Beloved.
We are accepted in the Beloved.
@@Yah_free "the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness"
"You are upset, that whores and murderers will make it into the kingdom of heaven before you"
Heaven is going to be full of sinners. Get over it. The work of Jesus is what saves people. Or perhaps you think you are holier than the next guy. But rest assured all your righteousnesses are also filthy rags.
@@Yah_free That’s how you interpret God’s grace? It’s unfortunate you can’t take God at his word.
No heading!
Youre wrong Onorato!.Just your opinion,based on your feelings rather than the Spirit,so only subjective.
I used to be in this camp and would get deathly afraid at verses like this. In my mind, there was no way to really know if I was a serious enough Christian, I just had to repent enough and try hard enough. It wasn't until about three weeks of frantic studying and prayer that I finally (and suddenly) understood this whole passage in an entirely new light: You CAN'T please God by your works. You can't even WANT what's right without a complete transformation happening within. It's completely impossible to walk in righteousness perfectly in this side of heaven, and it's even harder when the root cause in our hearts, which is sin, has not been fixed.
It was in that moment that I understood that this passage had a second meaning: That no amount of Christian works done in Jesus' name would be able to prove that you were a good enough Christian. That the ONLY way to be acceptable to God was FAITH ALONE in what Christ did on the Cross, and to be born again. And that it was by FAITH (and faith alone, without adding a single word or deed) that our hearts could even be changed to begin with.
I was actually a bit uncomfortable with this realization because it was so different than what I was taught (and what I had been raised to believe). But I came away from it realizing that I couldn't come to any other conclusion. That the faith alone message of the gospel was what the scriptures clearly taught, and I decided to make up my mind about it. I said "okay, I guess I am saved by grace, no matter what I have done or will do. And by faith, my heart will be changed from within" and I stopped trying to beat myself into submission. I stopped striving. I didn't really say any special prayer in that moment other than acknowledging and coming into agreement with this, not thinking much more of it initially.
In the following weeks, I noticed multiple things changing. 1) God was answering big prayers like wildfire (in a way I had never seen before), 2) I was feeling the physical tangible presence of something new when I'd pray, worship, or study the Bible, which I soon realized was the Holy Spirit, and 3) my heart began to change and I suddenly began to value God's ways in new ways that I had not in the past (my desire to live in sin has been decreasing and my desire to follow God, though I am imperfect, has been growing within and it has NOT been something I have had to beat myself into submission with).
I later led a very close friend to Christ a few months later with this same gospel message. This person had grown up in a background much like mine and did not understand the gospel in this manner. They also got filled with the Holy Spirit and TOTALLY transformed in a way that is so big that I can hardly describe it in words. They are unrecognizable as a person today, completely changed from who they were by the work of the holy spirit, and by the faith alone gospel message.
I am 100% positive that this is the pure, unadulterated gospel message. That God loves us, even WHILE we were still sinners, and died on the cross on OUR behalf to fulfill the righteous requirement that we could not fulfill. And that by simply accepting it as a free gift and placing our faith in what HE has done, we can be made right before him and become born again, being given a new heart and new desires. It is NOT a work of ourselves, nor is it something we can repent our way into or do enough works to prove. We are saved by faith alone, and only faith can do what no other religious work could ever do.
Awesome testimony. The cross is so powerful. I have too sometimes gotten down on myself about works, or lack of, but by doing that we are only diluting what Jesus did on the cross.
Glory to Jesus and surely He is worthy of all the glory and rightfully so. Jesus bless you for sharing with us of His amazing love. Worthy is the Lamb, now and forevermore. 💙🕊💙
photonicannon-Youre deceiving yourself!You cant show faith without good works,to do good works u must be free of a sin lifestyle,then u can do good works to show u have faith, see Eph 2:10 1John 2:5-6!
This "I never knew you" was those doing good works to compensate a sinful lifestyle,causing a disconnect to Gods will!
U-tubers always snare the masses into submission too them instead of truth!
You can't please God walking in the flesh. You have to walk in the spirit, i.e... be dead to this world and its passions. This is why the road that leads to heaven is small, and not many find it.
BEAUTIFULLY SAID!! I’m in tears over your story. Thanks for sharing!!
the will of the Father is to believe on His Son...
John6:39-40
@@RustyCreek-qb6gm Yes, I agree, flee fornication. Yet, like me, if you fall to temptation, Christ is our sacrifice! OSAS
@@RustyCreek-qb6gmAnd this is the will of the father who sent me, that of all he has given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it at the last day. (John 6:39. NKJV.)
Lordship salvation is work-based salvation which tells us we can lose our salvation.
You may not know this, but you choose to believe that Jesus can some how lose that which the Father has given him even though he said I should lose nothing. And choose to believe in your heart he cannot be Heartbroken even when someone has lost their salvation. Because if you believe he's heartbroken, mean you've accepted the fact he has lost someone he loved even though he said I should lose nothing.
@RustyCreek-qb6gm well, you decide Moses was a murderer and Sampson and king David etc.
@@RustyCreek-qb6gm a babe in Christ may appear to be living in sin, but, that doesn't mean that person isn't saved. What lordship salvation means, and what you're saying is a born-again believer is not saved until that person has grown in the Lord and is no longer living in sin.
Confusing salvation with service is deadly. Thank God for this clear message. God bless.
He’s not confusing salvation with service. He’s saying once truly converted by the Holy Spirit you will want to live for Christ. You will want to obey his commandments and live a holy life.
A deadly message is saying you can just say believe in Jesus and live like the devil.
@@chad9455you are adding that last part yourself.
@@chad9455for real
The simplest way for a born again Christian to simplify this is to understand the difference between "state" and "status" with God. Your status as "saved" is fixed as soon as you confess your belief in Jesus Christ, you couldn't sin enough to become lost, period. Your "state" in this life is at risk and you can also lose rewards and inheritances, but not your salvation. In 1st Corinthians 5:1-5 we discover that even sleeping with your mother-in-law at worst can get you killed by Satan, but your spirit is saved. Since your spirit is circumcised away from your flesh by the Holy Spirit, and sealed by him, your soul purchased by God, you cannot ever become lost. This is fact for a person in this dispensation only, don't wrest the scriptures to your own destruction.
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: not of works, lest any man should boast.
Ephesians 2:8-9 KJV
My life verse! To which my former subsequently evident Calvinist-leaning Baptist Pastor said "there is a verse 10". What does that say? Saved UNTO good works and we SHOULD walk in them!
@@PhysicsTom2004 Yeah, good works are splendid, but do not save, only Jesus grace can do that!
@@tedhinshaw3174Amen brother!
believe believe believe yep yep yep THATS WHAT JESUS SAYS. JOHN Ch3 vs 16
I could cry when I learn from every video because I know it’s what I’ve read in the word of God but I was nearly deceived by others preaching a different gospel praise the lord I know the true gospel amen thank you my brother in Christ
this man is a deceiver like his father, he will lead you astray. stick to God's word, not this man's.
If you could lose your salvation by failing to WORK, you could Earn your salvation by doing the WORK.
But if you had the salvation to begin with you would have DONE the work.
@@charlesmcbeath5624bro…. What? lol just stop you’re a lazy Christian like everyone else. Don’t lie to yourself. Christ died for sinners!
There in is the key words.... "Earn your salvation"...... There is nothing "You" can do to "Earn" your salvation.. If there was then Lord Jesus Died in vain. Galatians 2:21....
The people who "work" for their salvation,,, Is basically saying,, "you did a great job Lord,, But I just gotta make it a little better by doing this work in your name.""
What can you do, that God can't?
talk about narcissism.
Your righteous acts are like filthy rags to Him. All have fallen short of God's glory. There is none who are good, not even one. This is why you're saved by His work on the cross, not of yourselves. Don't be like that third servant, "the UNPROFITABLE one", even what he had (the seal of God's promise) was taken away from him. He called the Lord "Lord" and God referred to him as "SERVANT", yet he was cast into outer darkness along with the unbelievers.
At the end of the day Pastor John is a living, breathing, flawed human being just like the rest of us. I dont agree with all of his teachings but many of them are very good.
Well said.
To anyone that reads these words: Jesus Loves You. John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him, should not perish, but have everlasting life.
The gospel message in the bible is very clear. Many people simply reject it and decide to believe otherwise because of their pride. Pride has always been the problem ever since the devil. If you're humble, you would never think to trust in your works to be saved or stay saved. But if you're proud, you will think "Surely I am good enough, I am keeping my salvation by my great works, look at me!". That's putting it simple.
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WOW TRUE TRUE TRUE...
God will not be mocked. We reap that which we sew.
J. Mack is spot on. Listen, if you are saved BY GRACE and FILLED WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT you will move differently. Why? Because the Holy Spirit is moving IN YOU so YOU do things that bring glory to the Father. I have no clue why this is so hard to understand.
Agreed! They don't want to understand.....They want eternal life with no commitment to the Lord and they can't stand it when someone, like MacArthur, points out the folly of it. They no longer tolerate sound teaching....
@@theshockoftruth8222 Yep! We just took these brothers and sisters to Church! People-God clearly calls us to Holy Living. It’s all over scripture. The “Holy Living” isn’t what saves you-Faith because of Grace does that…but we are called by Paul to wage war with the sin in our lives. To examine ourselves with fear and trembling. The stakes are too high to try to just cruise control through the pearly gates.
Really confused by the comments section lol
Preach it brother!
Amen! Jesus Christ is my justification for He took all my sin and gave me His righteousness "for with the heart man believeth unto righteousness" = God's righteousness! Keep preaching the truth brother!
Amen.
@@michellebryan8148
What an awful thing to say.
to think that any work that i do can save me is a spit to the cross and blood of my Lord Jesus Christ, faith is a gift , saved by grace.
It's interesting that MacArthur appeals to James's quote that faith without works is dead in order to support his contention that we are saved by our obedience, but he doesn't mention James 2:10 -- "For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it." Does MacArthur really believe that he has merited salvation by his perfect obedience, since when it comes to salvation, nothing short of perfect obedience will suffice. Martin Luther once said that our greatest sin is presuming that we are righteous. It seems that MacArthur is guilty of that, and encouraging his listeners to also be guilty of presuming that they are righteous.
Personally, I've never seen someone using James 2 to justify works salvation ever post James 2:10. I've seen many people quote James 2: 11-26 to justify works, but conveniently leave out the 10th verse. There was some yahoo on Jacksmacks channel a couple of days ago that did this. Couldn't believe it, he posted verses 11-26 but left out verse 10 lol.
It's no different than people who say we basically have to stop being carnal because 1 Corinthians 6: 9-10 tells us so, but they leave out verse 11 where it tells us we are washed, justified, and sanctified.
These people are insane. Even if they decided to keep the law perfectly, (which is impossible) they still wouldnt get to heaven because they’ve sinned in the past, prior to keeping the law. Faith in Christ is the only sufficient way to get rid of ALL sin for all time, once and for all.
The book of James speaks to people already saved. A famous one is even the devils believe and tremble. James is showing they are not lost but they need to step up and act on their faith. Kinda like a husband not stepping up in a marriage not putting any effort it.A counselor might say your marriage is dead you need to put more effort into it the marriage to make it healthy again. The marriage is not over the wife has not left. The marriage is a marriage it’s just a dead marriage because the husband is not putting any work in to it. Also I have seen many on the Lordship side say Romans does not speak to the lost becasue they want to shut down Romans 10:9. I have always not understood also to the ones that take that as salvation to get obeying him as lord to be saved. That is not what is it saying you are just declaring him Lord. I recommend verse by verse ministry. Stephan Armstrong is reformed but he is great and does not preach lordship salvation.
@@sarco64 interesting quote by Luther I always like hearing his quotes
macarthur never said we are saved by our obedience, this is a vicious deception by the content creator and you fall right into it.
Onorato is the best Bible teacher I've heard on the internet. The Lord has blessed him with an exceptional mind and purpose.
If you like him, you’ll also like Ralph Yankee Arnold and John Ricci.
@@ReligiouslyIncorrectRalph Yankee Arnold Is A Great One. He Teaches The True Gospel
You must have heard some very poor Bible teachers then 😂
@@doubtingthomas9117 lol you laughing at your self
Nah-laughing at the idea that someone thinks that a fella, who consistently distorts or dismisses bible passages which disagree with his heterodox soteriological doctrine, is the best internet bible teacher. It’s especially amusing when this same “Bible teacher” turns around and makes videos accusing others of being “unsaved” or “little devils” for bringing up Biblical teachings that he himself has denied since they didn’t survive intact when he strained them through his predetermined interpretive grid.
But on second thought, I did once believe the same as this “Bible teacher”, employing the same interpretations and arguments in dismissing passages I found problematic. So yeah, in a sense I am laughing at myself-I’m laughing at the me from 30 years ago 😂
Your message is filled with Truth, Grace and Hope. Thank you
He is a man that confuses discipleship with salvation. He is married to Lordship salvation. He himself really doesn’t know if he is saved until he dies. He’s hoping his good works has saved him and there is the terminal error. I pray he will place his faith in Christ alone unto salvation before he breaths his last.
He deserves at least some time in Hell for leading millions to Hell with his damnable gospel.
If he was saved in the past or does get saved, imagine the realisation that you have condemned multitudes to hell
I need to get saved too but I have been confused for many years by him and Paul Washer.
Read John Ch 3 v 16 very slow and close, then read vs 17 even closer Jesus WILL open your eyes!
@@theodoreritola7641 I figured God he’s me since I’m still single at 29 I’m a leftover woman even though I’m a virgin.
Paul said im amazed you have gone to another gospel which is not a gospel.
Ono you have discerned the difference. Your a young man and im 68 nearly and have only recently understood the difference between Salvation and living in the faith. You have confirmed what was just revealed to me. Hallelujah.
Keep preaching it young man. The lord is pleased with you...amen
yikes!! this man is a false teacher, deceptively splicing clips of a Biblical shepherd trying to lead the sheep astray. macarthur does NOT preach what this man claims he does. mark and avoid!!!
“The only thing that makes you acceptable to God is a pattern of obedience”. I thought the blood of Christ reconciled and justified us before God. Oh wait, John MaCarthur doesn’t believe the blood saves you either
Hearing him utter that one sentence, I would have jumped up and headed for the door. I wonder how many in the congregation were just fine with that heresy.
Without repentance you don't truly believe in Jesus Christ. It's simple
@@rooster555555what do you mean by repentance?
@@sunnydaze1185 people can say they love Jesus but their actions show something different
@@rooster555555 yes, AFTER someone is saved, they SHOULD be living in obedience with the help of the Holy Spirit.
3:02 "And you don't look at a *_past event,_* you look at the character of your life..."
Interpreting this MacArthureeze, you don't look at the WORK of Christ on the Cross as your salvation, you look to YOUR past and present WORKS!
He's nothing more than a Catholic without the pope
wow, congratulations you just put more false words into macarthur's mouth than the false teacher in this video. good job.
This makes me utterly sad About Pastor MacArthur. Let’s pray for him and his church.
He has been warned and reprimanded for many decades and he refuses to repent. He is now in Satan's hands . Pray for the people who are earnestly seeking God , and instead are getting this evil Reformed Theology. Blessings friend
@@anabanana7599
We really do not know that JM is in Satan' hands...even though many have told him and yet he is still blind and can not see, it does not mean we cast him to hell. We really do know know the plans that Jesus has for each person on earth. Many across the world have come to believe the truth of Christ for salvation only before passing away and I pray this applies also to JM too and all the others whom teach a false gospel. I believe thay Jesus does use people like John MacArthur in ways that we may never know on this side of earth. We really should be praying for the lost until our last breath and the reminder applies to me as well. I can imagine that behind the scenes Jesus is working all the false narratives for His good in the long run. It is always a good thing to point people to the truth of Christ, no matter how long it takes, while having the faith that with Christ all things are possible, even for JM. Blessings to you and yours, in Jesus name, Amen.
@@John_Lete Macarthur is a heretic. This is from his book, notice the date, 1976. He's been a false teacher for a very long time. He believes it wasn't His blood that was shed for ALL of humanity that saves but His death. I can cite Scripture after Scripture that teaches truth.
“It was His death that was efficacious, not His blood. . . Christ did not bleed to death. The shedding of blood had nothing to do with bleeding. . . it simply means death. . . Nothing in His human blood saves...It is not His blood that I love. . . it is Him. It is not His bleeding that saved me, but His dying." (MacArthur, ‘Not His Bleeding but His Dying’, 1976)
@@John_Lete Jmac is a blood denying antichrist who will be responsible for sending many earnest God seeking people to hell. He has been warned many times and he refuses in his arrogance to REPENT and turn to Jesus in faith . He teaches a false 5 point gospel which is devoid of biblical truth. He is in essence a leader of a cult. The bible is very clear on how to handle these false prophets, they are to be called out, marked and Avoided. I believe he is under demonic inspiration. Sorry .
@@lisaj4248 Amen, there is no remission of sin without the shedding of blood. I often say if it was the death only then God would have instructed the Israelites to nail the carcasses of the lambs to the door posts . Also , Jmac misses one very important point. It's not human blood that was flowing through Jesus veins, it was the very blood of God Almighty Himself. Blessings sister 💜
Absolutely, John 3:16, 5:24, Acts 2:8,9, belief alone, God cannot lie, thank you Christ Jesus ❤
Acts 2:8 is about pentecost. Can you correct this?
@@_a_v_j First John 2:2 And He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only, but for the sins of the WHOLE WORLD. John 3:18.
@@jimkraft9445 ohhhhhhhhhh i see
John starts off making sense then quickly contradicts himself. Clearly the issue was not with their works but their trust in their own works. This passage is a decisive blow against Lordship Salvation, yet they use it to teach it. Ironic...
Calvinists constantly contradict themselves. It's very strange that they don't acknowledge it! That's how Satan works....self deception.
Amen brother. Its remarkable how the same people who boast about God's Sovereignty in Salvation will then turn 180 degrees and say that man must "make" Christ the Lord of their life.
Wow, great thought and statement
Exactly , total contradiction
Yes this exactly. And then they somehow deny the contradiction.
@@heckbr2 I like it when they use big words to bamboozle their listeners, it works everytime 😂👍
@@rwdchannel2901 I never trust a Bible that has someones name plastered on it . Ruckman is another wolf who's "study bible" should be used for kindling . 👍
Perfect video, brother. May this be a blessing to many.
What is amazing to me is reading all the comments from people who make such bold claims about what MacArthur believes, which he most certainly doesn't believe or teach. Not one thing that he has said in this clip (or in any of the other sermons that he has preached, or books that he has written) makes the claim that our salvation is based on our merit, in any measure. On the contrary, he emphatically preaches against our salvation being merited by anyone other than Christ Himself, and by Christ alone. I am amazed at all of these comments from so many people who speak as if they themselves sit in the righteous judgement seat of God. I certainly do not adhere to every single one of MacArthur's theological convictions, but that being said, it is not right to misrepresent anyone in what they believe, which is what so many of you accusers in these comments are doing. It blows my mind, really, as to how quick we can be to condemn others. God, have mercy on us!
The problem is he could be confusing others on how to be genuinely saved.
When he says things like , " it isn't those who SAY but those who DO". When actually becoming born again saved is about those who have trusting FAITH.
Then AFTERWARDS, the person has the holy spirit to help their desires to be more in line with God( walk out obedience as best as we can while here.)
@@sunnydaze1185 macarthur isn't confusing others on "how to be genuinely saved" for several reasons. first, if you listen to his sermons, you won't be. it's this deceptive content creator splicing together clips and filling in the blanks by putting words into macarthur's mouth, trying to smear our brother in Christ and a true shepherd of the sheep that he would like to lead astray, as his father would have him do.
second reason is that there is NO "how to" on being "saved" Jesus addresses this twice with Nicodemus in John 3:1-8 the answer is clear, there is nothing you can do, rather salvation is all of God.
@@Taterstiltskin So, after reading the word do you get out of it that no RESPONSE by each person is required for salvation ?
John MacArthur is NOT saying you have to WORK to EARN your salvation…
It’s pretty tedious how many people misinterpret what he’s saying.
Don’t you understand ?? This is in RESPONSE to years of FALSE evangelism, FALSE conversion….
The sinners prayer - is the modern heresy…
Making a profession of faith, and then seeing no evidences of regeneration over time - then are we going to continue to presume that person is saved… ?? years go by, but yet no changes in the direction of their life, and they look just like world…?
What he is talking about IS the EVIDENCES of genuine rebirth…
NOT that works saves you..
amen. this false teacher will deceive many with the "lordship salvation" straw man. doing the work of his father.
Thank you for sharing, lets trust the Holy Spirit will continue to open hearts with the true gospel of grace, including those in dead churches, God bless you and yours.🙏
The ONLY thing that makes me acceptable to God is my Faith in his son through this covenant he has offer by his blood. It is CHRIST’s life then which I get credit for. Imputed Righteousness is a gift. I take it!!!
I am a Born Again Child of God whether I have the best day or the Worst day. Christ is my assurance! Not me!!!!!
Excellent, Onorato. Thank you. Keep proclaiming the true gospel of free grace!
How on earth can he and his followers not see this is describing them??
The majority haven't even read a Bible, and just listened to that heretic flap his lips. The ones who have read "a Bible" are reading his corrupt version more than likely and why they are as lost as he is unfortunately.
@@brianmarshalljr.5318 Bingo 👍
@@johnjarrett5592 I don't mean to be rude but did you actually listen to the video Onoroto provided. ?
Thank you brother. No wonder people are confused. Brother you are teaching the truer words of God thanks again brother. In Jesus name amen.
Good grief, you poor souls. You all really don't understand The Bible.
false teacher
Our devotion to Christ shown thru works cannot and does not add to His work of saving. To believe so is to mock Christ's work upon the Cross, thinking we can add to it which is impossible and not necessary. We are, however, saved unto good works, as an outworking of the Holy Spirit in our hearts and lives towards others. It is a testimony to the world of His presence in this world.
Amen , MacArthur and others like him are the workers of iniquity ( sin that looks like righteousness) Jesus referred to in Matt 7:23. He's trusting in his sin repentance and others wonderful works done in Jesus' name in lieu of faith in the finished work of Christ.
trentthompson-No!Meaning youre a worker of your feelings without truth!
Feelings are our own worst enemy,such holding on to appeals to your carnal mind from this video!
Iniquity is literally lawlessness - thinking the commands of God don't apply to you or don't matter.
If you are regenerated with the new nature, you want to please God.
@@renefinch No works, sir!
God designed the gospel to be a direct assault on people's pride
perfectly said. :)
I'm not sure I agree with this, but there is a passage in Titus 2:11-14 that says this:
11 For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation to all people, 12 instructing us to deny ungodliness and worldly desires and to live sensibly, righteously, and in a godly manner in the present age, 13 looking for the blessed hope and the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Christ Jesus, 14 who gave Himself for us to redeem us from every lawless deed, and to purify for Himself a people for His own possession, eager for good deeds.
I think the passage speaks for itself, as Gods word usually does,. God's Grace is free, but there seems to be an expected behaviour after accepting this great gift that the Mercy of God will train you to complete.
I'm not well versed in this Lordship theology, but why wouldnt you obey God's word after recieving his mercy? That should be the power of Grace.
The questiuon arise: Are you an ungreatfull child of God?
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@@OnoDiamante I still don't see how one can call what John Macarthur said was a lie.
1 John 1:6-7
6#If we say we have fellowship with him while we walk in darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth. 7#But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus his Son cleanses us from all sin.
you are not versed in "lordship salvation" because it's fake, a straw man that deceivers like this use to lead the sheep astray.
Crystal clear teaching the truth as usual! Thank you Diamanté!
John saying “and you don’t look at a post event” John means the past event when you heard and believed the gospel and were saved in that millisecond.
Ya exactly 💯
True
I used to be a Calvinist but Praise God He got me out of it. They constantly confuse Justification with Sanctification. You are so right, they are two separate events in our walk with the Lord. Keep up the great work Onorato.
Amen!
Lordship salvation is not the Calvinist view on soteriology. This is a _Reformed_ *Baptist* belief. They are not true Calvinists, and are not representative of Reformed theology. Just because someone subscribes to the 5 points of TULIP, does not make them Reformed. Many Baptists hold to Lordship salvation. It's not exclusive to the ones that follow TULIP. You will not generally find many Presbyterians that follow this view though.
John MacArthur is a pastor over a non-denominational church though.
@@ihiohoh2708with respect, I do not think you quite know what a Reformed Baptist is. John MacArthur is absolutely not a reformed baptist. He holds to calvinistic soteriology. But he is a dispensationalist. The lordship vs "free grace" movement (antinomians like Zane Hodges) controversy was a dispensationalist Baptist conflict. Covenantalist Baptists do not agree. They hold to the confessional view. No one who knows anything about Spurgeon's theology would accuse him of either being antinomian or holding to a form of lordship salvation. He was a 1689 Baptist. I hold the same view.
The biggest error that they botch is imputation. Remember when God put Abraham to sleep and took his place in the covenant? God "imputed" his righteousness, Abraham had no part in it at all.
Here it is, guys. We talk about this topic as we do other theological ones with a focus on man rather than a focus on God. The question is not whether believers have to be sure to perform works to have salvation, for salvation is by faith alone in the work of the Lord Jesus Christ. The better question is, what is the character of true salvation? Does true salvation produce inward and outward evidence of a submission to Christ? Or can a true submission to Christ be impotent and produce nothing? That is the important distinction to make. We have to describe what true faith (which is a gift of God) is like. It is not man trying harder to do more. It is man receiving faith and the Holy Spirit doing His work in a believer. Works are not earning salvation but evidence that someone is alive in Christ. Remember if a fruit tree bares no fruit you cannot assume it is alive.
Wow, what a good explanation to rebuke salvation by works. Thank you for such a good word to expose such a deceitful twisting of scriptures. I can understand how people can be so deceived. I was deceived myself for many years, but over the last several years I have come out of that. It takes time to recognize that and to come out of it. It is videos like this that make my day. It's early in the day, and it looks much brighter already thank you!
Same here, I used to defend MacArthur but now realize the guys has bastardized the gospel and made it a work. How on earth does this guy think we can commit to obey Jesus Christ other than by believing on his name and work for us ? We cannot, if I could obey the law I would not even need a saviour, and the folly that we should commit ourselves to obeying Christ by obeying his commandments is beyond belief. MacArthur should know better and realize, no man including himself can commit to obey the moral law and keep that commitment.
@@henrka Yes I know what you are saying. I must have had a veil over my eyes until I realized that even though I was trying to obey I still knew in my heart that I lacked salvation, so I looked elsewhere without bios. I thought to look at saved by grace alone and found that I was wrong, Thank GOD I was wrong and now I know I am saved by grace alone. I believe they have a veil over their eyes because of pried. Satan's biggest sin was pride, and he still has a veil over his eyes too, at least it looks that way to me.
@@henrkaAnd, he seems to overlook Romans 2 that reveals that even the most moral person needs Christ as much as the ones who suppress the truth in unrighteousness! (Romans 1)
Exactly, to me proper repentance includes acknowledging our inability to obey God’s moral law. For MacArthur repentance is a commitment to obey God’s moral law, which he cannot keep. It makes a joke of repentance turning it into a New Year’s resolution, that we break within days. @@graftme3168
Basically he is right!! Those who obey are saved by his grace!! That grace includes the works that Jesus would have each person do unmerited!! I
So if John McArthur is wrong then we basically just stop going to church!! Don't tell anyone about God or Jesus!! Just be self centered and run faster than your brother and just think that you're saved and indeed you just might be wrong!! However if you have the Key that's love!! It's no longer works but Genuine love!! When Jesus said what he said about the idea of departing from him!! He meant to say if you're lead by him you gracefully bear fruit that ultimately shows your identity as a followers of Jesus!! That is a soul that loves Jesus and his people!!
Here is my question to the Free Grace thinkers.
Do you really believe that person can believe the Gospel IN THEIR HEART and be totally unchanged by it?
Because the essence of Lordship Salvation is not that works will save you. Its that IF you have been saved it will be evident in how you live. That is scriptural.
Change in a believer’s life is completely reasonable, but not required. Here’s a question for you, how much change is necessary?
@Onorato Diamante I think you're confusing conditions with results. Works are not a condition. But they are a result.
There is no number or quantity to state "yup, that's enough to serve as evidence you're saved". It's about the direction of one's life. The priorities. "Is the trajectory of my life moving towards holiness?"
Here's another way to look at it. Changing ones life is not necessary for salvation but salvation will necessarily change one's life. We don't do the work that changes us. The Holy Spirit does.
Unless you believe that The Holy Spirit can dwell within a person and it not be a life changing experience.
@@Theo_Skeptomai And that is why you are not saved because you do not believe on the Lord Jesus Christ who died for our sins, buried, and rose from the dead. Understand the truth.
@@OnoDiamante Enough change to evidence that the person is born again. If there is no change, then that person is likely not born again.
The terrible thing is that these people weren’t just “sayers” they were also “doers”. They said “have we not done many things in your name?” That alone just undid his whole message.
This opened my eyes so much. Salvation is really free.
yes it is, amen! but please mark and avoid this deceptive teacher. study up. he is deceiving.
The verse is written about someone like Macarthur! He's still trusting his works, in the form of his obedience
The blindness of MacArthur is so tragic.
And how most people hold him on such a high pedastool. Truly very sad.
He is still a brother in Christ as far as you know though. Why ridicule him if by the grace of God he has led and encouraged many to Christ. Keep in mind he is really old. Are we any better ultimately? Biblically speaking? If we get anything right it’s the grace of God working in us.
@@pmpcvii MacArthur has changed the Word of God with his false 'Bible' and preaches a false gospel. Calling him blind was actually very kind.
@@ChkynBoy how so? What is it you think he teaches falsely about? It was not a kindness btw. Your comment makes it sound like you hold yourself above him.
@@pmpcvii the gospel. He teaches the gospel falsely.
He's a religious narcissist who preys on the sheep, a total wolf who only wants to abuse.
Amen sister , totally agree
May Jesus help him that he may be able to see the truth of Christ. We do not know the hearts of man...many folks are sincere when it comes to speaking about Jesus, yet many have the blindfold over their eyes and can not see. All we can really do is pray to our Father for His will being done that their heart may know the heart of Christ. 💙
@@maximusvonce1381 🎯🎯
Alisha you are controlled by your feelings over Truth!
@@renefinch really, and who do you think you're controlled by???
1:05 "For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge. For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and *going about to establish their own righteousness,* have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God." (Rom 10:2-3 KJV)
@OnoDiamante This video is an excellent exposition of the Bible's teachings which correct the grave error of "Lordship Salvation" by John MacArthur, Ray Comfort, and others. P.S.: I hope you are healing well from your leg surgery. I pray often for the Lord's continued rich blessings on your life and strategic evangelistic ministry and I've been also praying for your complete healing from your surgery too!---Bible Professor Al, Ph.D., Th.D.
lordship salvation is the straw man that no one believes or preaches, but deceivers like this man would use to lead the sheep astray. mark and avoid.
It is so hard to speak sense into the other camp of "Christians'" who are not abiding in Christ's work alone. It's really very simple. Those who have spiritual pride will still place their faith in their own good works regardless of how many times they read the Bible. Those who have no spiritual pride immediately place their faith in God, who promised and finished what we can never do.
Because of pride, that is. According to Isaiah 64:6, "our righteousness are fithy rages", therefore they're no good to get us to Heaven. Only the Savior will get us there by believing in His name (Acts 16:31).
love your videos❤❤John 6:40 King James Version
And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.
John Macarthur is a dangerous man to the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
His teaching angers me.
I used to listen to him, but always felt like he and a very select few would be saved because I wasn't good enough. I'm glad I stopped, just hope I'm right. I'll be happy just getting in lol.
He is misinterpreting scripture. The lord lord people were pleading works and not grace thereby making them workers of iniquity by default.
He is an arrogant ignoramus !!!!!! Seriously he is vile in his false teachings and his attitude of arrogance is barf 🤮
2 Corinthians 11:14-15
King James Version
14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
Same with Paul Washer
This verse is about false teachers from what I've understood.
Yes the irony of it all.
Amen brother. It's so simple to believe in the gospel of Jesus Christ. I wish people could put their pride aside and believe. But when people say they believe in Christ and add their so called good works to it, it is trampling Jesus under foot. And there is really nothing worse.
You're right it is pride, because when someone feels the need to add to grace they are saying that they are good enough while others are not.
Amen. Pride is the worst and the sad thing is that we all fall short in one way or another. There is no better place than the foundation of Christ; having His assurance for salvation. Glory to Jesus for He is truly the one and only God whom loves His children. In Jesus name; Father break every chain that binds us and bless us with Your heart, eyes and wisdom. Amen. 🕊
@@ebbb365 exactly this brother! Deep down we want to believe that we are more worthy of entering heaven because we are better than others or do more for God. Or been seen as Gods favourite. God doesn’t have a ranking clipboard in heaven 😕. He doesn’t judge us like we judge man by character or how good we do!
That's why they're trying to enter Heaven in another way like a "thief,"according to the Bible not knowing (or should have known) that Jesus is the way.
@@mr.porgens7349 exactly
Well said. Cross reference Matthew 7 with Nahum 1:
The Lord is good, a strong hold in the day of trouble; and he *knoweth* them that trust in him.
There is a lot of false teachers here. I am glad I have found this channel. It is a answer to my prayers.
this guy is a false teacher. he's clearly being deceptive about a shepherd, so I am pretty sure he isn't just misunderstanding the word, but trying to lead sheep astray. mark and avoid!
Zeal for God does not mean one is saved. People trust in themselves.
Romans 10:1-4
Thank you bro. You are always on point .God bless.
MacArthur is a Calvinist who doesn't know if he is saved or not.
no.... but I guess you could think that if you don't understand the many Scriptures concerning God's sovereignty and the plain "calvanist" reading of them.
The part I hate is that he teaches that you have to look to yourself and not Jesus for salvation and that makes it so discouraging and makes you have self condemnation and doubt I’m so glad I stopped listening to lordship salvation preachers and instead I’m believing and trusting in God for my salvation not men.
Keep reading and you'll see that faith without works is dead.
1 John 3
4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.
@@Raymond1C I already replied to you elsewhere but stop terrorizing believers with your improper interpretation.
Copy and pasted from my other reply:
Believers in Jesus who trust in His Blood for their salvation have Body, Soul and Spirit. The Spirit cannot sin, whereas the flesh can and does sin. We are awaiting the redemption of our bodies at the rapture. We are told to follow the Spirit, because it cannot sin. We are told if we do Sin, Jesus is our advocate. We are told not to grieve the Holy Spirit of Promise (God cannot lie) because we can do so through sin or walking after the desires of the flesh.
1 John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
Galatians 5:16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
Galatians 5:17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.
Romans 7:24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?
Romans 7:25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.
Romans 8:23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the
redemption of our body.
We will be chastened if we sin, and Jesus will plead for us:
1 John 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
1 John 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
Hebrews 12:6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.
Hebrews 12:7 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
Hebrews 12:8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.
Hebrews 7:25 Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them.
The New Spirit that cannot sin and the Holy Spirit:
1 Peter 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
1 John 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
2 John 1:2 For the truth's sake, which dwelleth in us, and shall be with us for ever.
Ephesians 1:12 That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ.
Ephesians 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
Ephesians 1:14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.
Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Ephesians 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Romans 4:5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
Romans 11:6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.
Ephesians 4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
Hebrews 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
The redemption of our bodies:
1 Corinthians 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
1 Corinthians 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
1 Corinthians 15:53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
1 Corinthians 15:54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
1 Corinthians 15:55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?
1 Corinthians 15:56 The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.
1 Corinthians 15:57 But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.
1 Thessalonians 4:13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.
1 Thessalonians 4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
1 Thessalonians 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
1 Thessalonians 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
1 Thessalonians 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
1 Thessalonians 4:18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.
macarthur doesn't teach that, nor does he teach "lordship salvation" but this deceiver would love to lead you astray in thinking so.
Soooooooo many Lordship salvationist in this comment section.
The true born-again Christians can discern the difference between salvation by grace alone through faith alone in the blood atonement alone for salvation...Period! Nothing added nothing detracted.
Those who are Lordship salvationist garble the gospel of grace with works-righteousness obedience works for proof of their salvation so-called.
They are back-loading works to the simplicity of the gospel. Making it another gospel a false gospel.
The sad thing about Lordship salvationist is that they cannot discern the difference; and they misapply verses and habitually take verses out of context, like James 2:17...faith without works is dead.
They actually think that one MUST show forth works (fruit bearing) in order to really be saved.
This is what is meant by back-loading works-righteousness obedience works for proof of salvation so-called.
They are either very spiritually and biblically babes in Christ, and have been deceived by listening to Lordship salvation false doctrine.
Or...
They are not truly saved, lacking the Holy Spirit dwelling inside of them; thus having no spiritual discernment to UNDERSTAND the true gospel of grace alone.
John MacArthur is a Lordship salvationist; a deceiver who clearly teaches false gospel of total surrender all to the Lordship of Christ in order to really be saved.
THAT'S WORKS PEOPLE.
Lordship salvation is a heresy of great perportions. It mixes Justification with Sanctification, salvation with decipleship.
Thus causing great confusion and teaching heresy.
Galatians 1:6-9.
6. I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
7. Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
8. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
9. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed (damned).
John MacArthur
Ray non-Comfort
Paul Washer
Voddie Baucham and many many others are proponents of and teach Lordship salvation heresy.
Romans 16:17-18.
17. Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.
18. For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.
I think it is YOU hyper-grace types that are perverting the Gospel and preaching a demonic counterfeit that leaves people unsaved and still in their sins.
@@theshockoftruth8222
You must be a Lordship salvationist. Back-loading works-righteousness obedience works for proof of salvation so-called.
Salvation is a GIFT 🎁!
It CANNOT BE EARNED or added to by efforts of a individual.
If so, that would then make salvation a Debt to be earned by.
Have you not read the scriptures?
Ephesians 2:8-9.
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Titus 3:5-7.
5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
6 Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour;
7 That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.
Romans 4:1-5.
1 What shall we say then that Abraham our father, as pertaining to the flesh, hath found?
2 For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God.
3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.
4 Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt.
5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
Romans 11:6.
6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.
❤Romans 3:21-28.
21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.
27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.
28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.
@@The-GreenHornet - What you would call “backloading” the Bible calls “Fruit”. While it is true that salvation is obtained completely by faith apart from the works of the law, the result of real, genuine faith (as opposed to mere mental assent), will be FRUIT. There is no way around verses like this that explain it in exacting detail: Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. (Matt 7:17-21)
@@theshockoftruth8222
SMH...You obviously can't read a passage in CONTEXT.
The passage that you quoted is Matthew 7:15-17.
Jesus is speaking about false prophets!
Look at his warning in verse 15.
Beware of false prophets...
This passage isn't dealing with real and counterfeit Christians; like Lordship salvationist twist it to mean.
Jesus is describing those false prophets who will boast in themselves by saying...
Have we not prophesied in your name, and in your name cast out demons, and in your name DONE MANY WONDERFUL WORKS (patting themselves on their backs, boast boast).
Then Jesus will profess unto them, I never knew you depart from me ye workers of iniquity (Matthew 7:21-23).
Read the whole CONTEXT of the passage.
Stop cherry picking proof text for a pretext to fit your theology.
Fruit bearing, as you say is the proof of real salvation.
Try looking at the thief on the cross.
Did he bear any fruit? No!
Yet he simply believed on Jesus Christ as the messiah.
Jesus said...today, ye shall be with me in paradise.
All through the gospel of John the word BELIEVE is the focal point to have eternal life.
No repentance or fruit bearing is even mentioned in the whole gospel of John.
The Philippine jailer asked...
What must I do to be saved?
The Apostle Paul said...BELIEVE ON THE LORD JESUS CHRIST AND THOU SHALL BE SAVED, and thy house (as they believe in Jesus with simple faith in Him alone.
Scriptures are proving you Lordship salvationist WRONG when read in CONTEXT.
Ephesians 2:8-9.
Any fruit bearing needed there????
How about...
Titus 3:5-7.
Any fruit bearing needed there to really be saved?????
Nope! All by grace alone through faith alone in trusting in Jesus Christ alone through his blood atonement alone for salvation...Period!
@@The-GreenHornet - But the thief on the cross did bear good fruit. He told the other thief to shut up and then proclaimed Jesus innocence. If the thief in the cross had borne bad fruit in his short time, he would have been rejected.
So crystal clear Brother! Thank you for your page. Hope it blesses many! The true Gospel is absolutely amazing! Has anyone not listened to the lyrics of amazing grace or what!? Keep preaching brother! Can’t be any clearer once you understand the truth!
Amen!
U got it brother so many trusted in their works today
Recognising Lord Jesus’s lordship isn’t wrong he is lord and therefore the one who should be obeyed. However salvation is definitely by grace through faith And not of ourselves. Yes we are known by our works but we are NOT saved by them for we a saved through grace by faith alone.
Grace+Faith = Salvation + sanctification by the Holy Spirit + fruits of godly work.
Eternal Security disciples will some day wish they had the Fear of God and lived a sinless holy life!
Wow some of you guys in the comments are awesome😂👍🏻
It’s like a round’ table discussion that I learn from. Praise God🙏🏻
I agree with Onorato. No other way makes any sense, been at this multiple decades.
May God our Father Bless you all🙏🏻❤️
First time listener. I always question people's motives when they clip sentences from someone elses videos. Not just short sections of videos, but sentences. Then make a long video attacking. I believe that is wrong, only my observation. I know you are highly educated and very knowledgable and I am not so you are probably going to destroy my comment. But I don't mean any harm. I"m actually exhausted at the bickering and finger pointing, I'm right you are wrong mentality. I grew up in the streets of the East Bay ca. Been to jail, prison, abandoned by mom. All the strong weapons of the enemy, but I still wish you peace and love in your lives.
he's a false teacher, and he's intentionally being deceptive. what do you expect. doing the work of his father.
"Their behavior was their Savior" that's good, keeping that one.
Onorato thank you for what you are doing! Truly John M. Is a cult leader. He has access to the same verse we do, and proves he doesn't believe them. For example, as we know: The only acceptable sacrifice for sin, is the Blood of God's Son, God on the cross. And we are only acceptable to The Father.......if we believe this. Unfortunately this deceptive man may eat the following words he stated at the 3:10 mark. ......." The only thing that makes you acceptable to god, is a pattern of obedience to the word of god. That is the product of repentance, and genuine faith in jesus christ, and truly abandoning your life in obedience to his lordship." Yes ironic! Not only does Jesus..... not know John; but, John does not know Jesus ......... John is worshiping a different jesus......John is worshiping himself! Father draw him to your sacrificial Son; draw him to you.
That's why it's so easy for him to reject the blood of Christ. .
hahaha 😂 sorry i find it funny because i felt really the anger just like what Paul experienced in the galatian church
lordship salvation is the straw man that no one believes or preaches including macarthur, but deceivers like this man would use to lead the sheep astray. you are being led, careful where you end up. mark and avoid.
I still cannot figure out how this guy has such a huge church with so much cash rolling in from all over the world and yet is so far off base with his gospel theology.
(Matt 7:14) “For the gate is small and the way is narrow that leads to life, and there are few who find it.
Charles Spurgeon was called the prince of preachers and taught limited atonement, denied the king james, and all kinds of heresies. Joe major exposed him. Jmac to me just seems like a modern day Spurgeon.
@@SSNBN777 That's right. The narrow way to life is through faith alone in Christ alone. All others ways that 99.9% people believe they can have a loving relationship with God through their own works of achievement or of self righteousness will be turned away and will never be know by our Lord.
you might understand if you had a better grasp of the Gospel.
@@TaterstiltskinThen tell me, what is your take on the gospel. Please correct me.
It is the believer that is saved, not the doers of the law. Roman's 3:20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
How many works did the thief upon the cross do in order to be with Jesus that same day in Paradise? All he said was, Lord, remember me when You come into Your kingdom. That thief had faith and that thief is with Jesus in heaven at this very moment. Something to think about! What saith the Scriptures.
Exactly....
"Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the Kingdom of Heaven." Being poor in spirit is acknowledging we are spiritually bankrupt sinners who need God. There is literally nothing we can do to save ourselves and earn our way to Heaven. Lordship salvation=pride and pride comes before the fall.
another spectacular video. God bless
Another excellent scripture breakdown.
John MacArthur is an epic heretic!
And how ironic the very verses he was presenting will be spoken to him his very self.
John MacAwful!
@@colonalklink14 😂👍
John MacSatan!!🤣🤣
Obedience comes from the new nature. Jesus said this in a Kingdom parable - "But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me" (Luke 19:27).
The new nature where the Holy Spirit comes and lives inside you makes Jesus your Lord. We aren't saved by works but are born again/regenerated, given a changed nature (Ephesians 2:1-10) thus given a zeal for good works (Titus 2:14).
Jude 8 - "Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities." That dominion they despise is the dominion of Christ in Jude 25. (By the way, Christ/Messiah means "Savior King.")
Amen brother, great video! God bless you, Maranatha!
Really good video and well explained. I’ll be honest though. I’m tired of seeing people attack John McArthur and I feel that is being bred in the comments. Also, to be fair, John mentioned obedience is a product of genuine faith in Jesus to quote what he said in context. I like this video a lot, and it definitely blessed me. I think the only thing that confuses me is the title, because it makes it seem like Jesus is not our Lord, when He is for sure. I think maybe defining Lordship salvation at the beginning would be helpful because I think some people interpreted as “we don’t have to obey God”. Just my thoughts
"THERE BEHAVIOUR WAS THERE SAVIOUR" I LIKE THAT!
Lordship salvation is a heresy, and I would say even after being saved we cannot commit to the Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord Jesus Christ commits to us, but let nobody be so foolish as to make a vow of obedience or anything similar, it would turn out like a new year's resolution, we will break our vows within a few days. The gospel is about Christ's commitment to us, not our commitment to Christ as MacArthur states.
lordship salvation is the straw man that no one believes or preaches including macarthur, but deceivers like this man would use to lead the sheep astray. mark and avoid.
So many trapped in despair because of this Antichrist. Keep shining the light of God's truth exposing him .
repent
@@Taterstiltskin you first 👍
I think the biggest mistake people make about interpreting Matthew 7:23 is not talking about the actual meaning of the word "knew" you. This is the very same word that marry used in the first chapter of Luke when the angel came to her and said she was going to be with child. And she replied how can this be for I've never known a man. It's just my humble non pastor's opinion that the key to this verse is knowing what that word means. This is a deep abiding intimate knowledge of God. But no one ever talks about that aspect of this passage. I'm 58 years old and I've never heard anybody talk about what that Greek word here means. Knowing what that word means changes the emphasis of this passage. We need to be spending time getting to know God. We need to be spending time in his word and in prayer.
Thank you brother 🙏
This helped me. Throw Lordship in the bin.
I very much agree with you Onorato! The delineation between free grace in our salvation and discipleship is set apart. According to John MacArthur in all actuality can no one be saved. Truth! I was reading MacArthur's book, The Gospel According To Jesus and he says the same thing there! This was about three years ago. I stopped reading the book right there! I said out loud well then who can be saved? I appreciate your message here today. I pray many will be rescued from MacArthur works based false gospel.
The thief of the cross said Lord remember me, if he is not your lord I promise he’s not your savior
If God required works he would be a narcissist and you can never please a narcissist.
I lived with Morman's as a teenager for 2 year and it was exhausting drove me away from from the truth until I was in my 40's. I just prayed one day for the truth and I was set free. Only been a Christian for 2 years and my faith continues to grow in my saviour Jesus christ. God bless
☀️💛Amen. Do no violence. Feed the poor. Take care of the orphans. Keep your eyes on Jesus.
The confusion lies in many people conflating justification and sanctification, which are two distinct aspects of the Christian walk. Paul explains these concepts in great detail throughout the New Testament, and I’m surprised more people don’t recognize this clear distinction. Justification is by faith alone-faith is what justifies us. However, the enduring faith we display throughout our lives, evidenced by our obedience and works, is the process of sanctification. This is an ongoing battle that serves as proof of our faith but is not what justifies us.
The key point is that if you’re not actively engaged in the process of sanctification after being justified by faith, as Paul continually emphasizes (Romans 7:15-25, Galatians 5:17, Philippians 3:12-14, 1 Corinthians 9:27), it’s a sign that you may not have had genuine faith to begin with. Mental assent and true faith are not the same thing. Too often, people mistake faith for mere mental agreement, then wonder why their lives haven’t changed.
To clarify: Yes, faith alone (sola fide) is what justifies or saves you, but sanctification is the evidence that your faith is real. As James 2:26 states, "For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also." It’s a simple, distinct concept-not as convoluted as it’s often made out to be.
It's quite telling that MacArthur contrasts between those who profess and those who do, completely ignoring those who believe. This is how he shows that faith is not important to him because he probably doesn't have it, except for faith in himself.
YES!
I said out loud when hearing that, " it isn't those who SAY OR DO, BUT THOSE WHO BELIEVE ( trusting faith on Christ 100 percent covering our salvation).
I have nothing to boast about, but all I have is to give thanks to Jesus Christ, for He did it all for you, me, everyone.
Does John know he has to be of sinless perfection (which is impossible & only Jesus was) if he’s gonna rely on his behavior instead of God’s gift of Grace.
macarthur knows very well, he preaches it. lordship salvation is the straw man that no one believes or preaches including macarthur, but deceivers like this man would use to lead the sheep astray. mark and avoid.
If you really listen. Macarthur contradicts himself and basically says you must believe and have faith in Christ but that you just do, do, do things to prove obedience. That is the law.
Faith produces works. Not your works, but the works of faith. That's how you know that you have the living faith, not a dead faith. Living faith works, moves, speaks. It's alive!
Absolutely. However, that isn't what he is saying. In my opinion. Since he is talking about Lordship salvation.
@@chilidog73 McArthur doesn't have the Spirit, only mental theology. Same as Ono.
nope. you are really listening to some selective clips spliced together by a deceptive content creator for clicks, or for leading the sheep astray, doing the work of his father. you decide.
@TheFightingSheep I'm not sure I'd say that. I can't judge his heart but I do think he's got some things backwards.
Amen 🙏 brother in Christ ✝ God bless
The will of the Father which is in heaven that is found in Matthew 7:21 in the Holy Bible (Word Of God) that we must do to enter into the kingdom of heaven is to believe on the Son of God (The Death, Burial And Resurrection Of The Lord Jesus Christ) which is found in John 6:39-40 in the Holy Bible (Word Of God).
Thank you, Onorato, for plainly and concisely clarifying the difference between salvation and discipleship. I'm going to be frank. I believed that salvation is by through faith and grace alone, but after coming across a lot of different videos on soteriology ranging from Protestants, Catholics, and Orthodox, I started to confuse myself and started questioning my initial beliefs. But as you have elucidated by the gift of the Holy Spirit, the Holy Spirit also has removed the veil that started to cloud my mind with all these contradictory teachings that works is also required to prove my salvation.
When we look at the scope of the Gospel and what Jesus taught, it honestly shouldn't be this difficult to understand how we can be saved. If salvation was meant to be so esoteric, then we all would be doomed (and it would go against the fact that God "desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth" and that He is "not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance"). But what I've come to realize is that the root of all this contradiction and confusion is the fact that Christians are starting to confuse salvation with discipleship. Rather than this ongoing continuance of ignorance and pointing fingers at one another, I pray that the Holy Spirit will allow all followers of Christ, whether it be Orthodox, Catholic, or Protestant, to come together and establish once and for all what salvation is and what discipleship is, and then start preaching that Truth moving forward.
Lastly, what sets Christianity apart from all other worldly religions when it comes to salvation is that it is a gift freely given by God because of His mercy and grace. There is absolutely no amount of good works anyone can do to be saved or be worthy of being saved. All other religions claim that one can be saved through good works. Why is it that Christianity is regressing back towards this idea of works-based salvation? It certainly has to be Satan trying to deceive us one last time since the work of the cross has already been accomplished. May God open our hearts and minds to the truth!
I’d argue that they don’t acknowledge Jesus as Savior, only Lord. Why would they need him as Savior if they believe their works will get them to heaven? The death, burial, and resurrection means nothing to them as the whole point was God’s work to save them, yet they don’t believe they need it. Everyone and everything will proclaim him as Lord in the end, but only those who proclaim him as Savior will be in heaven.
Only those who stop sinning will be going to the kingdom of God.
1 John 3
4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.
@@Raymond1C I’m assuming you believe you’re saved. Have you sinned today?
@@ranger8435 yes he has , but they were only minor sins so they don't count. Lol
@@lionelferron3011 All sins are the same, a sin is a sin, none is greater than the other.
@ranger8435
John 8
34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.
35 And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever.
36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.
Thank you brother, it's very clear! God bless
Great video❤ Keep the good work!
Great message. We get saved by Grace through Faith FIRST. Then, as we receive the gift of the Holy Spirit, He helps us to in discipleship and to do good works. Blessings 😊
Exactly. They keep trying to" put the cart before the horse. "
this is literally macarthur's teaching, straight from the Word of God. the deceptive content creator is slandering a true shepherd for clicks with deceptive editing, or to lead the sheep astray, whichever but he needs to repent.
@@Taterstiltskin It sounds like Jmc is adding works to Faith as a requirement for salvation. Salvation is by faith alone. AFTER a person is saved, God would want works manifest through the Holy Spirit. The crux was “I never knew you”. Blessings
JonnyMac has never trust Christ who paid for all of the sins of the world when He shed His blood on the cross.
so you're saying you've never heard johnny mac preach, only deceivers like this splice together clips to attack fake straw men and smear faithful preachers. gotcha.
EXCELLENT explanation of the Gospel which is the GIFT OF ETERNAL LIFE through the finished work of our Saviour Jesus Christ through faith alone, through Christ alone, plus NOTHING ELSE.(My opinion lordship salvation IE 5 Point Calvinism is a False heretical gospel that offers a works righteousness gospel that can never lead anyone to a saving knowledge of Jesus Christ. I would like to know how one earns the gift of God. Romans 6: 23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
The moment one attempts to earn the gift of Eternal Life it is no longer a gift and they must pay the cost, death in hell eternally separated from God because they refused the Gift of God. Jesus Christ paid that penalty of sin which is death for the entire world which Calvinist also deny. )