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Tbf its hilarious that Otto managed to be king of the greeks for so long, having nothing to do with them at all, then dying in the first days of the war without even a lick of fighting.
One point this video missed: Napoleon didn’t just randomly conquer Malta and then leave. He spent time there and wrote a whole new constitution for the islands. This time he spent there was a real detriment to his journey. But it shows that he did actually care, and didn’t just conquer it for conquest’s sake.
"This time he spent there was a real detriment to his journey" It actually was the other way around. Nelson arrived in Egypt before Napoleon, but as Napoleon wasn't there yet, Nelson assumed Napoleon had sailed further ahead and went off. The delay at Malta was partly responsible for Napoleon giving the superior British navy, which he could not hope to beat in a direct confrontation, the slip on his way to Egypt. Of course, there is no way Napoleon could have known this at the time, he wasn't a psychic.
Napoleon is such an enigma. He'll do genuinely great things, like religious toleration and great economic reforms. But then he'll go and try to reenslave Haiti and restrict women's rights. It's hard to say how much of it was his own personality versus the thinking of the time. I view him just like how view Lincoln honestly: a very shrewd politician who knew how to work the best out of a situation.
Ambition, that was the key to all of Napoleon. He was very ambitious and he knew how to get what he needed. Now it’s safe to say based on almost all his correspondence kept on record that he very much was a devout revolutionary. He genuinely believed everything he did was for the good of France and the Revolution. The catch? He believed only HE was the one capable and to be trusted with such authority and responsibility. It would reflect not only in his political career as future-Emperor, but even as a battlefield commander.
As Oversimplified pointed out, he likely was only tolerant of different religions because he thought it would keep the people happy and 'in their place'.
@@charliefarmer4365 It was definitely a strategic idea than a humanitarian one. But that doesn't negate the decency of the action, no matter the motive.
@DasTemplar 96 It's a quality that I think makes leaders such as Washington and Lincoln better because despite having faults of their own, they weren't delusional enough to pretend that they could single handedly fix the problems they faced themselves. Where as, I don't believe Napoleon ever saw the Revolution succeeded without him.
In hindsight, I feel like Napoleon's time in Egypt is overlooked compared to all his other campaigns. Histories talking about him usually focus on things like his ascension to power, his wars with Britain, or even specific battles like Trafalgar or Waterloo. So, I'm hyped to see this side of his story 😊
Those wars shaped Europe for decades. Napoleon’s Egyptian campaign was just a complete failure and didn’t achieve anything besides finding the Rosetta Stone. Losers don’t have as much place in history as winners as the saying goes history is written by the victors
I mean, American and Europeans have always neglected African and Asian histories, compared to European ones. Just look at this channel. The videos on Africa and Asia are very minimal compared to American and European histories.
As an Egyptian, I am interested to hear a western perspective on the French campaign, in Egypt we have a mixed perception of the campaign, It caused lots of death and destruction, violently quelled revolts like in the 1st and 2nd Cairo rebellions, and destroyed whole sections and historic buildings in Cairo, not to mention Napoleon's hypocrisy by playing Muslim to gain the favour of Egyptians and turning them against their Mamluk opressive overlords(knowing that the Mamluk's replacement would be also Muslim, would encourage Egyptians to fight the Mamluks since they won't be fighting on the side of Infidels against their Muslim brothers), but on the other hand it helped bringing the long forgotten Egyptian civilisation and heritage to us back, Egyptians at that time (The most educated ones, usually religious scholars) knew very little about ancient Egypt and what to make of it's ancient ruins and artefacts, and lots of the information they tell is inaccurate or completely wrong, The rediscovery of our ancient history catalysed by the deciphering of the Rosetta stone can be attributed to the scientific expedition that was brought along with the French campaign.
Also it weakened the Muslim fundamentalist control on Egypt which was a big thing keeping ancient Egypt mysterious. I think the Native Egyptians could have figured out what Europeans figured out theoretically but due to Islamic taboos about Pagan teachings they didn't want to. There is cases in the modern day of like Saudi Arabia destroying pre Islamic ruins in Arabia.
@@doomdimensiondweller5627 Actually many Muslim scholars and historians tried to study ancient Egypt and to decipher the Hieroglyphs, a famous one being Ibn Wahshiyya al Nabati ابن وحشية النبطي, but their understanding was mostly limited or their historical facts were downright false
@@manetho5134 I am sure many did but Islamic society as a whole was against the idea and it wasn't patronized by Sultans which limited the room for growth.
I have to admit that, although I am very interested in history, I don't know much about the capaign and the occupation itself. The outcome here gets far more focus, as the capaign was the kickstarter for modern Egyptology and Napoleons rise to become First Consule.
Napoleon himself is also viewed with a mixed perception in other parts of Europe, besides France. English speaking historians tend to glorify him, almost like the French do, mostly due to his successes in battle, but he too caused lots of death and destruction in the countries that he waged war with. It is easy to overlook the dark aspects about his existence, when consuming English speaking sources. English speaking civilians never had to suffer under his reign, so it's easy to see, why they mostly focus on the glorious aspects of Napoleon today. And this whole chapter also had its benefits for Napoleons enemies in Europe as well. Lots of gains in technology, standardization, society and military through French occupation (and fighting them). But those were still violent occupations. Many generations saw Napoleon as a monster, an enemy who killed sons and daughters, who destroyed, pillaged and then occupied and ruled against the native population, after the end of this chapter, while French people praised him as a national hero till this very day.
Thomas-Alexandre Dumas was actually the father of Alexandre Dumas, the famous author and playwright who wrote The Three Musketeers. Dumas Sr’s story is actually pretty tragic, but it might get covered in a later part of the series so I won’t say.
He didn't do much in Egypt, so I don't know if he'll get covered, soon after the Battle of the Pyramides, he had words with Napoléon and asked to be returned to France. Unfortunately, his ship sunk, he was captured by the Naples government, and was only liberated to discover Napoléon in the government, who lost no tme to fire him (well a lot of soldiers were fired, it was peace time, but being hostile to the regime was a sure way to be the first to go XD) and will die a few years later ^^'
@@krankarvolund7771 LOL Dumas was the military governor of Cairo during the revolt, and keep his position, then Napoleon went back to France but Dumas believed who he should remain with Kleber, but then he changed his mind, the problem was who the French "fleet" was operating with the help of the Algerian Regency, and they depended on pre-arranged dates, but Dumas escaped Egypt to late to made it with Napoleon and to Early to made it with Dessaix, thus his ship was captured and Napoleon had to pay a ransom for him, so Napoleon recriminated him being caught and when Dumas become ill, he didn't let him go (something similar with Massena, Odener, Junot) but he never fired him, by the contrary he insisted on him mantaining his job, something who Dumas was not fit for, nevertheless he was on Napoleon staff in 1805, and then he finally was allowed to retreat after Austerlitz, but he died in 1806.
Dumas was the father of Dumas "Pere" (the writer) and grandfather of Dumas (the other writer) both were called Alexandre, but the general is Thomas Alexandre
Just a minor correction: It is repeatedly referred to "Mamluk Sultans" in this episode. The mamluk sultanate was conquered by the Ottomans in 1517, some 280 years before Napoleon set foot in Egypt. Mamluks were slave/professional knights and a ruling aristocracy that ruling Egypt would have been impossible without their help, so the Ottomans kept their aristocracy under the leadership of a "Bey", but who was also subservient to an Ottoman governor "Pasha". Egypt was still under the Ottoman Empire as a province "Eyalit"
You are correct, but keep in mind, that the mamluk bey, who held the title "sheikh al-balad", was often equal in power if not more influential than the ottoman appointed pasha/wali.
Here's a fun fact Napoleon actually had a son with a Polish women and his descendants ended up being billionaires in the Auto industry in France though his son actually pretty good and he served under Napoleon the Third
Not any polish woman, the Countess Walewska was from one of the most prestigious noble families of Poland XD Although I don't find anything on them becoming billionnaires in the auto industry, there's like a dozen of big car builders in France (well was, most of them have closed ^^), but none of them had belonged to the family Colonna-Walewski. The closes I could find is that they invested in logistics and transports and notably a taxi firm that had helped France in the famous Marne Battle during WWI ^^' But yes, the son of Napoléon did served in the french army, in fact on the three sons of Napoléon, both of his illegitimate sons served during the Second Empire, Alexander Walewski as an officer in the Foreign Legion, while Charles Leon, son of Napoléon and a handmaiden of his sister, who served in the National Guard. As for Napoleon II, his only legitimate son, he died at 21 years soe didn't do anything noteworthy, saying himself on his deathbed "My birth and my death that is all my history, between my cradle and my tomb, there's a big zero".
@@tremendousbaguette9680 honestly I would love an Extra Credits serie about the creation of the FBI. It would nicely link with their series about the Pinkertons and Teddy Roosevelts trust busting
I still don't see the parallels... Ceasar is a salad... Napoleon is a cake... one is a sweet dessert, other is a vegetable meal. I guess you stab them both with a fork is about all that's common between the two.
I’m glad you’re adding comedic elements to make your videos fun and entertaining to watch. I’m looking forward to the rest of the series and how Napoleon’s invasion spurred Egypt-mania.
Fun fact: Napoleon actually had a Georgian mamluk bodyguard named Roustam Raza who served him for 15 years, from his time as a consul to emperor of France.
It's very understandable, which statemen would not love having a personnal guard of what's basically a slave only loyal to him? It's not about their military prowess I suppose regarding the technological and strategical gaps between the french army and the mamluks. Beside the plague following his troops Egypt was kinda piece of cake before fighting the english in Africa.
@@theanglo-lithuanian1768 indeed because the mamluks were a class of mostly foreign slaves, mamluk even means when translated from Arabic: one who is owned.
So I recently finished a book on general duma and he deserves his own series also his son is the novelist Alexandre dumas who wrote the three musketeers and count of monte Cristo
@@malachiphoniex8501 When pressed on his skills during his first job interview, Alexandre admitted he knew very little about anything. Except, they found out, he knew how to carve beautiful letters. That's how writers are born.
@@extrahistorySnake shenanigans aside, I have a serious question to ask: what’s your estimate on when we will see a comprehensive series on Napoleon’s rise/fall from power (and life in general)? I find it very perplexing that you’ve quickly glossed over his French Revolution origin story to jump straight into his Egypt campaign.
@@topnotchshinobi You got Oversimplified for that baby :p I'm sure they'll get to it eventually, look at how they're filling in Japanese history! We have like 5 series within 2 centuries and 1 prequel story for it in the span of like 6 years
@@AtlasNovack Eh, good point! Then I guess I’m okay with waiting for another decade (ish?) for us to see the Napoleon anthology gradually come to life here on Extra History! In the meanwhile, back to preoccupying myself with Oversimplified memes!
Imagine being a soldier, you're outnumbered 8 to 1, and you somehow manage to use your POS weapon to snipe the enemy general in the head... and then he just gets up. 😮
As a frenchman fascinated be the napoleonic era, thank you for bringing this part of history to the light . It is one far too often forgoten even be our history class .
I'm really excited to see this one in your list. I've never had a single history class that did more than namedrop Egypt when talking about Napoleon, and everything about Napoleon in Egypt was mentioned when talking about how we know about ancient Egypt. Everything I know about this comes from learning after school, and even that was still focused on him putting Europe's focus there, not on what he actually did there.
There's a well known (in its time) tv mini-series "Napoleon and Josephine: a Love Story" where the British of course play the villains. Napoleon, in Egypt, planning on leaving his troops to get back to Josephine: cut to Nelson and Hardy standing on the bridge of HMS Victory 'We'll see about that MUWAHAHAHA'
Napoleon is in the same league as Frederick the Great for me. Every time you learn something about him that makes you like him, you’ll learn something else that makes you dislike him just as much. Except, in addition to that, he’s also got that for his intelligence. Every time you see an instance of his absolute brilliance as a commander, you’ll find another blunder that paved the way for his eventual defeat.
Great video as always! You also mentioned the attitude the french enlightenment thinkers had towards how the greek and egyptian culture had developed. This played an importand role in the greek revolution and I was wondering if the team was planning on covering it. It is a topic many western viewers don't know about and one which (In my opinion) explanes how nationalism effected Europe in the mid 1800's.
Indeed, even the name of the state and the choice of the capital city was heavily influenced by the enlightenment movement, the French revolution and the romantic ideals It's not a coincidence that the very first country that recognized Greece as a sovereign nation, was Haiti an other child of the French revolution
One has to admire the mental gymnastics of Europeans who believed that the most ancient of civilizations would keep those ancient ways for centuries while remaining resistant to the transformation that takes place in the rest of the world. I imagine that these same Europeans believed that Iraq still wrote in cuneiform and Iran still worshipped Ahura Mazda.
Hey, Mazdas are great, imagine Taliban taking Tehran on a bunch of Miatas and firing an RPG from an RX-7!.. I am joking of course, they would more likely use a 4x4 Mazda not a roadster, when they do to mullahs what Iranian women want for a long time.
I would say this isn’t unknown but unfortunately in the modern-day world none of the classics get taught and history bored young ppl. As a fellow young person, its just so strange, how the hell is this not exciting? Like i get it if ppl aren’t always interested, but the complete dismissal of the grandeur and excitement of history is insane to me.
@@GuineaPigEveryday completely agree. There are so many fascinating bits of history (snippets and eras alike) that get overlooked. For example, Colonel Blood is mostly known as having a cool name and trying to steal the crown jewels when there's so much interesting stuff about him. Not to mention the fact that the Persian Empire gets overlooked in favour of the Greeks and Romans.
Super interested and excited for this series because as soon as I saw it my first thought was “can they really make this into a whole series?” Obviously there’s more to the story, and I’m excited to learn it
It would be cool if you did a series on the Russian night witches, a female regiment of night bombers that flew many missions on the eastern front during World War Two
6:23 I can already see this coming back in Lies, Cleopatra was Ptolemaic and therefore of Greek origin. I'd even argue that part of why she was so popular was because she was Greek, but still made an effort to understand the language and people of Egypt. But hey, even Netflix made this mistake so I can't fault y'all too hard. Keep the videos coming!
This is literally the same design they used for her in their series that predates Netflix. That's exactly why she has the bun hairstyle and not the Ankha bob. It doesn't change the fact she was a Egyptian queen, like come on, do you call US congresswoman "aCtUaLlY gReEk" because she isn't native FFS?
@@KasumiRINA Back then, when people weren't as mixed, ethnicity mattered a lot, in fact it mattered the most, USA is a mixed of different ethnicities so it no longer matters
@7:52 I felt the same exact way when I first landed in 21st century Egypt of the 2010s, as a hopeless history buff, and having just finished playing Assassin’s Creed Origins.
Napolean never fails to be one of French history's most hilarious and glorious figures, there are probably people who are or were negatively affected, but you have to admit he never failed to entertain.
This is so coincidental haha, just as I started my Napoleon phase, one of my favourite channels does a series on him! And it's on Egypt! Great to see Napoleon's Italy and Egypt campaigns are getting more attention nowadays!
I have read about his connections with Tipu Sultan and his plan to link with his forces. What's funny was Tipu was also trying to contact the ottoman empire who was engaged with Napoleon so couldn't help him. Probably they weren't aware they were on the same side.
The problem with the Ottomans was who they were in a moral and political decline, thus they had conceded to the western powers their wishes, (like going against France in this war), and also they didn't seem intrested in going to India, meanwhile Tipu Sultan was even from the same political club as Napoleon
I mean, if I was like Tipu Sultan fighting to kick invaders off my country I would contact all their rivals, regardless if they're fighting each other XD
What baffles me about Napoleon is that he led this expedition into Egypt without proper supplies and then also leads his armies into Russia without proper supplies
A big part of his success in Italy was that his troops were able to live off the land (as in grab whatever wasn’t nailed down) and he assumed it would be the same in Egypt. Europeans knew nothing about the Saharan climate, so he had no way to know what to expect in Egypt.
beautifully made! i love it! keep up the great works! edit: 4:42 the over-exaggerated size of egypt is hilarious, you pushed the linear borders even further into the sands of Sudan and Lybia, maybe evn making Egypt have Benghazi, hilarious!
i'm hoping to eventually write an allohistory story set in an Egypt that was successfully "permanently" conquered by Napoleonic France about a generation or two as of the story's events, so this is going to be an excellent starting point for that before i eventually get to the books on Egypt that i've been gathering up :)
Thats an amazing idea man. I’m also someone who actually rlly loved the opportunities of alternate history, because it allows you to explore your passion for history and creative writing without the risk of tarnishing and insulting history by getting the details of it wrong. I always feel like i might get something wrong if i ever wrote a historical novel, ik ppl take creative liberties but to a history student it feels like sin, and it can also be insulting to a lot of ppl. What sort of stuff or ideas are you gonna be exploring? Like what impact does this have, what developments will turn out from this, what does Napoleon want to do or who does he become because of it? The storyline potential sounds great
@@GuineaPigEveryday i'm of a similar mind on fudging the details a bit in alternate history--you should still try to be as true to actual history as possible provided whatever story, but the genre gives some leeway just by being what it is for mine, i haven't developed the actual events of Napoleon's time as much, (need to do more proper research on that) but the idea is that he'll still die when he did historically and for the same reasons--i know there's some alternate theories, which are floated in the vein conspiracy theory/secret history in the alternate timeline, but that's beside the point. the end result of his victory is that France is the premier European power of the 19th century but as far as imperialism goes is a bit more limited because of their ongoing rivalry with Britain and so that's more focused on the Mediterranean and the Suez. the planned story itself is meant to be more about the timeline's divergent egyptology starting with a young French woman who basically smuggles herself there out of concern for her father, a soldier stationed at the Suez, because of the outbreak of an alternate Mahdi Revolt and she's essentially stuck in Egypt for the same reasons. she's upset about all this at first but starts getting over it as she becomes enamored with Egyptian antiquities and the story develops from there. she of course gathers up a group of friends and allies, but the only one i've done any development so far is a local Arab woman who becomes a "big sister mentor" figure to her, and the requisite antagonists (filling in as the Belloq or Donovan to her Indiana Jones) are Confederate expatriates who are meant to also feature in another story set to take place in the same timeline, this basically explaining what they did after they left the plot in the other one.
Here's hoping for a series about Thomas-Alexandre Dumas, his son Alexandre, and how it all ended up with him helping Garibaldi topple the kingdom of Naples to avenge his father.
I know very little about Napoleon, my historical interests just usually take me 18th century or earlier, even though I also think more modern history is interesting. I am always interested in Egyptian history though, thus why I clicked this video. Point being that this is a story that I know absolutely nothing about, didn't even know it existed before now, and am fascinated to hear the full story, especially from this channel.
Could you guys make a full video series on the Napoleon and the Napoleonic war? Similar to what you did for Justinian and Bismarm,these kinds of series at least for me are the most interesting as they talk about great people of the past in great detail.
I am glad we finally have a series on the French Campaign. Almost every single TH-camr who covers Napoleon only points out that it happened and that Napoleon had to his stay short, hope it covers the story beyond Napoleon as well.
Epic History TV already did a series on him talking about Toulon 1793, the empire 1804-1814(and 1815) and the first Italian campaign 1796-1797 which currently has 3 episodes. there are two more that need to come: Egypt and 2nd Italian campaign.
Thank you for not skipping Malta, as all too often happens. As such, here in Malta it is said Napoleon spent 6 days, which it is said he did NOT sleep a single night... Puns intended. Edit: Spelling
Well, at Alexandria Korachim Pasa was certainly with 500 men, but the problem for the French were the Siphai cavalry who attacked the french columns outside the city, in fact some cantineers were captured R**ed and executed, while other soldier just either died or were executed after being captured.
Joshua Sawyer is one heck of a historian and video game maker. We all thought Caesars Legion was a about Rome when it really has historical precedence with Napoleon.
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I can't wait for Muhammad Ali pasha to appear in this series.
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@Extra History from who you learn history you know that napoleon lose the war against the ottoman empire
You skipped over how the native population of Egypt was almost eradicated in the 8th century....gee why so quiet....
This reminds me of Europeans in the 1820‘s being shocked that the Greeks who just got independent aren’t like Ancient Greeks
Yeh they become Christianized like whole europe
Neither is Egypt or India, nor China, or Israel, South America of the El Dorado gold, Mongolia or Japan
Tbf its hilarious that Otto managed to be king of the greeks for so long, having nothing to do with them at all, then dying in the first days of the war without even a lick of fighting.
Have any links to papers on this? I'd like to see what they thought
Well to be fair... anything having to do with Islam is going to set you back 6000 years....
One point this video missed:
Napoleon didn’t just randomly conquer Malta and then leave. He spent time there and wrote a whole new constitution for the islands. This time he spent there was a real detriment to his journey. But it shows that he did actually care, and didn’t just conquer it for conquest’s sake.
"This time he spent there was a real detriment to his journey"
It actually was the other way around. Nelson arrived in Egypt before Napoleon, but as Napoleon wasn't there yet, Nelson assumed Napoleon had sailed further ahead and went off. The delay at Malta was partly responsible for Napoleon giving the superior British navy, which he could not hope to beat in a direct confrontation, the slip on his way to Egypt. Of course, there is no way Napoleon could have known this at the time, he wasn't a psychic.
aaaaaand then the locals hated him so much they invited Britain to kick the french out again.
@@freewillgeorgesaid the English
@@freewillgeorgesaid the English x2
And the english were right!
Napoleon is such an enigma. He'll do genuinely great things, like religious toleration and great economic reforms. But then he'll go and try to reenslave Haiti and restrict women's rights. It's hard to say how much of it was his own personality versus the thinking of the time. I view him just like how view Lincoln honestly: a very shrewd politician who knew how to work the best out of a situation.
He's not unlike the Prussian King talked about in previous episodes
Ambition, that was the key to all of Napoleon. He was very ambitious and he knew how to get what he needed. Now it’s safe to say based on almost all his correspondence kept on record that he very much was a devout revolutionary. He genuinely believed everything he did was for the good of France and the Revolution. The catch? He believed only HE was the one capable and to be trusted with such authority and responsibility. It would reflect not only in his political career as future-Emperor, but even as a battlefield commander.
As Oversimplified pointed out, he likely was only tolerant of different religions because he thought it would keep the people happy and 'in their place'.
@@charliefarmer4365 It was definitely a strategic idea than a humanitarian one. But that doesn't negate the decency of the action, no matter the motive.
@DasTemplar 96 It's a quality that I think makes leaders such as Washington and Lincoln better because despite having faults of their own, they weren't delusional enough to pretend that they could single handedly fix the problems they faced themselves. Where as, I don't believe Napoleon ever saw the Revolution succeeded without him.
In hindsight, I feel like Napoleon's time in Egypt is overlooked compared to all his other campaigns. Histories talking about him usually focus on things like his ascension to power, his wars with Britain, or even specific battles like Trafalgar or Waterloo. So, I'm hyped to see this side of his story 😊
Those wars shaped Europe for decades. Napoleon’s Egyptian campaign was just a complete failure and didn’t achieve anything besides finding the Rosetta Stone. Losers don’t have as much place in history as winners as the saying goes history is written by the victors
I mean, American and Europeans have always neglected African and Asian histories, compared to European ones. Just look at this channel. The videos on Africa and Asia are very minimal compared to American and European histories.
Ironically, Napoleon felt differently. He felt that the true empires were won in the East, and that his loss in Egypt was a great failing.
Well outside Britian Trafalgar is not even a thing but well.
@@grapeshott you can't blame them for focusing on their own history
As an Egyptian, I am interested to hear a western perspective on the French campaign, in Egypt we have a mixed perception of the campaign, It caused lots of death and destruction, violently quelled revolts like in the 1st and 2nd Cairo rebellions, and destroyed whole sections and historic buildings in Cairo, not to mention Napoleon's hypocrisy by playing Muslim to gain the favour of Egyptians and turning them against their Mamluk opressive overlords(knowing that the Mamluk's replacement would be also Muslim, would encourage Egyptians to fight the Mamluks since they won't be fighting on the side of Infidels against their Muslim brothers), but on the other hand it helped bringing the long forgotten Egyptian civilisation and heritage to us back, Egyptians at that time (The most educated ones, usually religious scholars) knew very little about ancient Egypt and what to make of it's ancient ruins and artefacts, and lots of the information they tell is inaccurate or completely wrong, The rediscovery of our ancient history catalysed by the deciphering of the Rosetta stone can be attributed to the scientific expedition that was brought along with the French campaign.
Also it weakened the Muslim fundamentalist control on Egypt which was a big thing keeping ancient Egypt mysterious. I think the Native Egyptians could have figured out what Europeans figured out theoretically but due to Islamic taboos about Pagan teachings they didn't want to. There is cases in the modern day of like Saudi Arabia destroying pre Islamic ruins in Arabia.
@@doomdimensiondweller5627
Actually many Muslim scholars and historians tried to study ancient Egypt and to decipher the Hieroglyphs, a famous one being Ibn Wahshiyya al Nabati ابن وحشية النبطي, but their understanding was mostly limited or their historical facts were downright false
@@manetho5134 I am sure many did but Islamic society as a whole was against the idea and it wasn't patronized by Sultans which limited the room for growth.
I have to admit that, although I am very interested in history, I don't know much about the capaign and the occupation itself. The outcome here gets far more focus, as the capaign was the kickstarter for modern Egyptology and Napoleons rise to become First Consule.
Napoleon himself is also viewed with a mixed perception in other parts of Europe, besides France. English speaking historians tend to glorify him, almost like the French do, mostly due to his successes in battle, but he too caused lots of death and destruction in the countries that he waged war with. It is easy to overlook the dark aspects about his existence, when consuming English speaking sources. English speaking civilians never had to suffer under his reign, so it's easy to see, why they mostly focus on the glorious aspects of Napoleon today.
And this whole chapter also had its benefits for Napoleons enemies in Europe as well. Lots of gains in technology, standardization, society and military through French occupation (and fighting them). But those were still violent occupations. Many generations saw Napoleon as a monster, an enemy who killed sons and daughters, who destroyed, pillaged and then occupied and ruled against the native population, after the end of this chapter, while French people praised him as a national hero till this very day.
I was always fascinated with the Napoleonic wars thank you for making this series
@@youtubehandlesshouldsuckadick am pretty they did the whole campaign
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Thomas-Alexandre Dumas was actually the father of Alexandre Dumas, the famous author and playwright who wrote The Three Musketeers. Dumas Sr’s story is actually pretty tragic, but it might get covered in a later part of the series so I won’t say.
History Dose made a pretty dope vid on it.
He didn't do much in Egypt, so I don't know if he'll get covered, soon after the Battle of the Pyramides, he had words with Napoléon and asked to be returned to France. Unfortunately, his ship sunk, he was captured by the Naples government, and was only liberated to discover Napoléon in the government, who lost no tme to fire him (well a lot of soldiers were fired, it was peace time, but being hostile to the regime was a sure way to be the first to go XD) and will die a few years later ^^'
@@krankarvolund7771 LOL Dumas was the military governor of Cairo during the revolt, and keep his position, then Napoleon went back to France but Dumas believed who he should remain with Kleber, but then he changed his mind, the problem was who the French "fleet" was operating with the help of the Algerian Regency, and they depended on pre-arranged dates, but Dumas escaped Egypt to late to made it with Napoleon and to Early to made it with Dessaix, thus his ship was captured and Napoleon had to pay a ransom for him, so Napoleon recriminated him being caught and when Dumas become ill, he didn't let him go (something similar with Massena, Odener, Junot) but he never fired him, by the contrary he insisted on him mantaining his job, something who Dumas was not fit for, nevertheless he was on Napoleon staff in 1805, and then he finally was allowed to retreat after Austerlitz, but he died in 1806.
Dumas was the father of Dumas "Pere" (the writer) and grandfather of Dumas (the other writer) both were called Alexandre, but the general is Thomas Alexandre
One can only hope, because the story of the Dumas family is a truly interesting one.
Just a minor correction: It is repeatedly referred to "Mamluk Sultans" in this episode. The mamluk sultanate was conquered by the Ottomans in 1517, some 280 years before Napoleon set foot in Egypt. Mamluks were slave/professional knights and a ruling aristocracy that ruling Egypt would have been impossible without their help, so the Ottomans kept their aristocracy under the leadership of a "Bey", but who was also subservient to an Ottoman governor "Pasha". Egypt was still under the Ottoman Empire as a province "Eyalit"
I am happy somebody brought this up.
You are correct, but keep in mind, that the mamluk bey, who held the title "sheikh al-balad", was often equal in power if not more influential than the ottoman appointed pasha/wali.
Thanks, I was super confused about that.
أنت على حق، لكن المملوكيين ما زالوا كانوا ولاة تحت إشراف السلطان في الوقت ده
Here's a fun fact Napoleon actually had a son with a Polish women and his descendants ended up being billionaires in the Auto industry in France though his son actually pretty good and he served under Napoleon the Third
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Not any polish woman, the Countess Walewska was from one of the most prestigious noble families of Poland XD
Although I don't find anything on them becoming billionnaires in the auto industry, there's like a dozen of big car builders in France (well was, most of them have closed ^^), but none of them had belonged to the family Colonna-Walewski.
The closes I could find is that they invested in logistics and transports and notably a taxi firm that had helped France in the famous Marne Battle during WWI ^^'
But yes, the son of Napoléon did served in the french army, in fact on the three sons of Napoléon, both of his illegitimate sons served during the Second Empire, Alexander Walewski as an officer in the Foreign Legion, while Charles Leon, son of Napoléon and a handmaiden of his sister, who served in the National Guard.
As for Napoleon II, his only legitimate son, he died at 21 years soe didn't do anything noteworthy, saying himself on his deathbed "My birth and my death that is all my history, between my cradle and my tomb, there's a big zero".
Here's another fun fact : one of his great-nephews, Charles-Joseph, created the Bureau of Investigation in 1908, which would later become the FBI.
@@tremendousbaguette9680 honestly I would love an Extra Credits serie about the creation of the FBI. It would nicely link with their series about the Pinkertons and Teddy Roosevelts trust busting
“Bro thinks he’s Caesar lmao 😂 ”
“Hey wait”
“Oh.”
“Oh no.”
-French politicians regarding Napoleon
I still don't see the parallels... Ceasar is a salad... Napoleon is a cake... one is a sweet dessert, other is a vegetable meal. I guess you stab them both with a fork is about all that's common between the two.
@@KasumiRINA you have good points
"Release the lions"
Napoléon is also a hybrid cat breed, and an Indian Street food sandwich
I’m glad you’re adding comedic elements to make your videos fun and entertaining to watch. I’m looking forward to the rest of the series and how Napoleon’s invasion spurred Egypt-mania.
We don't need comedic elements in these series. Appreciation of history should be enough. If that isn't for you, that's bad trouble.
@@ianrastoski3346So why do you watch this channel? How has it changed?
@@ianrastoski3346 …you do realise there can be both, right?
Fun fact: Napoleon actually had a Georgian mamluk bodyguard named Roustam Raza who served him for 15 years, from his time as a consul to emperor of France.
Yes Napoleon bodyguards and elite troops were Mameluks recruited from Egypt, they were the first Guard Mamelukes,
thats a persian name lmao
It's very understandable, which statemen would not love having a personnal guard of what's basically a slave only loyal to him?
It's not about their military prowess I suppose regarding the technological and strategical gaps between the french army and the mamluks.
Beside the plague following his troops Egypt was kinda piece of cake before fighting the english in Africa.
@@handhand212 Persian name, lived a Georgian, enslaved by the Turks, worked for the French and died in France.
@@theanglo-lithuanian1768 indeed because the mamluks were a class of mostly foreign slaves, mamluk even means when translated from Arabic:
one who is owned.
This sounds like it’s going to be a very fun series
it is
So I recently finished a book on general duma and he deserves his own series also his son is the novelist Alexandre dumas who wrote the three musketeers and count of monte Cristo
You're joking! Now I'm interested. I second this suggestion.
Agreed
And his great-son Alexandre Dumas, son, wrote the Lady of the Camellias, although not as famous as his father ^^
@@krankarvolund7771 I wonder what caused such a line of novelists?
@@malachiphoniex8501 When pressed on his skills during his first job interview, Alexandre admitted he knew very little about anything. Except, they found out, he knew how to carve beautiful letters. That's how writers are born.
The greatest bleep since "holy 🐍is that the archduke?!"
🤣
One of extra history’s most memorable moments!
@@extrahistorySnake shenanigans aside, I have a serious question to ask: what’s your estimate on when we will see a comprehensive series on Napoleon’s rise/fall from power (and life in general)? I find it very perplexing that you’ve quickly glossed over his French Revolution origin story to jump straight into his Egypt campaign.
@@topnotchshinobi You got Oversimplified for that baby :p I'm sure they'll get to it eventually, look at how they're filling in Japanese history! We have like 5 series within 2 centuries and 1 prequel story for it in the span of like 6 years
@@AtlasNovack Eh, good point! Then I guess I’m okay with waiting for another decade (ish?) for us to see the Napoleon anthology gradually come to life here on Extra History!
In the meanwhile, back to preoccupying myself with Oversimplified memes!
Imagine being a soldier, you're outnumbered 8 to 1, and you somehow manage to use your POS weapon to snipe the enemy general in the head... and then he just gets up. 😮
How to become a member like you?
@meme-face_ you can press the "join" button on the channel I believe
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a person who is kinda obsessed with Napoleon, it feels like Christmas gift 🎁.
Thank you Extra Credit ❤
As a frenchman fascinated be the napoleonic era, thank you for bringing this part of history to the light . It is one far too often forgoten even be our history class .
I'm really excited to see this one in your list. I've never had a single history class that did more than namedrop Egypt when talking about Napoleon, and everything about Napoleon in Egypt was mentioned when talking about how we know about ancient Egypt. Everything I know about this comes from learning after school, and even that was still focused on him putting Europe's focus there, not on what he actually did there.
I love the foreboding of no canteens. That's an excellent cliffhanger
Ok, the French reaction to Alexandria was funny as hell XD
There's a well known (in its time) tv mini-series "Napoleon and Josephine: a Love Story" where the British of course play the villains.
Napoleon, in Egypt, planning on leaving his troops to get back to Josephine: cut to Nelson and Hardy standing on the bridge of HMS Victory
'We'll see about that MUWAHAHAHA'
How dare he stop Napoleon from abandoning his army to death and disease! Evil I tell you!
Yup
2:16 Napoleon doing the most random side quests 💀
Napoleon is in the same league as Frederick the Great for me. Every time you learn something about him that makes you like him, you’ll learn something else that makes you dislike him just as much. Except, in addition to that, he’s also got that for his intelligence. Every time you see an instance of his absolute brilliance as a commander, you’ll find another blunder that paved the way for his eventual defeat.
I'd say the campaign of Egypt was only beneficial for two things, Egyptology and Napoleon's legend, everyone else suffered from it XD
Great video as always! You also mentioned the attitude the french enlightenment thinkers had towards how the greek and egyptian culture had developed. This played an importand role in the greek revolution and I was wondering if the team was planning on covering it. It is a topic many western viewers don't know about and one which (In my opinion) explanes how nationalism effected Europe in the mid 1800's.
Indeed, even the name of the state and the choice of the capital city was heavily influenced by the enlightenment movement, the French revolution and the romantic ideals
It's not a coincidence that the very first country that recognized Greece as a sovereign nation, was Haiti an other child of the French revolution
Napoleon: invades Egypt, destroys the ottoman army, gets fleet destroyed by Royal Navy, abandons army in Egypt, refuses to elaborate
One has to admire the mental gymnastics of Europeans who believed that the most ancient of civilizations would keep those ancient ways for centuries while remaining resistant to the transformation that takes place in the rest of the world. I imagine that these same Europeans believed that Iraq still wrote in cuneiform and Iran still worshipped Ahura Mazda.
I mean some of us still do like me.
Hey, Mazdas are great, imagine Taliban taking Tehran on a bunch of Miatas and firing an RPG from an RX-7!.. I am joking of course, they would more likely use a 4x4 Mazda not a roadster, when they do to mullahs what Iranian women want for a long time.
Come back to Egypt plz we still need you
What makes Extra Credits great is that they cover relatively unknown or look-over parts of history. Gotta respect that.
French army in Egypt isn't really unknown though, they were even rumored to shoot off Sphinx's nose.
I would say this isn’t unknown but unfortunately in the modern-day world none of the classics get taught and history bored young ppl. As a fellow young person, its just so strange, how the hell is this not exciting? Like i get it if ppl aren’t always interested, but the complete dismissal of the grandeur and excitement of history is insane to me.
@@GuineaPigEveryday completely agree. There are so many fascinating bits of history (snippets and eras alike) that get overlooked. For example, Colonel Blood is mostly known as having a cool name and trying to steal the crown jewels when there's so much interesting stuff about him. Not to mention the fact that the Persian Empire gets overlooked in favour of the Greeks and Romans.
Damn, the French experienced Paris Syndrome in Alexandria.
7:48 this is the funniest part of this entire episode
Right? 😂
"Egypt...the most ancient of classic civilizations."
Ancient Mesopotamia: "Am I a joke to you?"
Timing of this couldn't be more perfect. I was just at the Napoleon museum earlier this week
Super interested and excited for this series because as soon as I saw it my first thought was “can they really make this into a whole series?” Obviously there’s more to the story, and I’m excited to learn it
Maybe they really go into Middle-Eastern and African politics beyond Egypt. Or it’s a four part series
“Is this hieroglyphic slab holding up a doorway” 😂😂😂
It would be cool if you did a series on the Russian night witches, a female regiment of night bombers that flew many missions on the eastern front during World War Two
That'd be cool
6:23 I can already see this coming back in Lies, Cleopatra was Ptolemaic and therefore of Greek origin. I'd even argue that part of why she was so popular was because she was Greek, but still made an effort to understand the language and people of Egypt. But hey, even Netflix made this mistake so I can't fault y'all too hard. Keep the videos coming!
We actually did a series on cleopatra and discussed her heritage and the Ptolemaic Dynasty here th-cam.com/video/ypswk9-DP9M/w-d-xo.html
This is literally the same design they used for her in their series that predates Netflix. That's exactly why she has the bun hairstyle and not the Ankha bob. It doesn't change the fact she was a Egyptian queen, like come on, do you call US congresswoman "aCtUaLlY gReEk" because she isn't native FFS?
@@KasumiRINA Back then, when people weren't as mixed, ethnicity mattered a lot, in fact it mattered the most, USA is a mixed of different ethnicities so it no longer matters
@7:52 I felt the same exact way when I first landed in 21st century Egypt of the 2010s, as a hopeless history buff, and having just finished playing Assassin’s Creed Origins.
As a Maltese person, I'm just happy we got mentioned 😂😊
Napolean never fails to be one of French history's most hilarious and glorious figures, there are probably people who are or were negatively affected, but you have to admit he never failed to entertain.
He is consequential I will admit that.
This is so coincidental haha, just as I started my Napoleon phase, one of my favourite channels does a series on him! And it's on Egypt! Great to see Napoleon's Italy and Egypt campaigns are getting more attention nowadays!
7:48 I genuinely laughed out loud here 😂😂😂
The writing on your show is always incredible, but I found that you guys really outdid yourselves on this one. Looking forward to the next episodes.
Just got home drunk but that's no excuse to skip some extra history 🔥🔥
Napoleon would have multiple heart attacks seeing Alexandrians today casually littering in the streets
Ohhh I've wanted to see someone talk about the influences of napoleon's conquest in Egypt for such a long time, not just in Europe too! thank you E.H!
*there’s nothing we can do*
Yes! More awesome videos! And on Napoleon no less! You guys rock!
Napoleon, finally!!
Yasss!!!
@@extrahistory BRUH!
Still waiting on the Inquisition's dirty laundry.
It only took 10 years
I have read about his connections with Tipu Sultan and his plan to link with his forces. What's funny was Tipu was also trying to contact the ottoman empire who was engaged with Napoleon so couldn't help him. Probably they weren't aware they were on the same side.
The problem with the Ottomans was who they were in a moral and political decline, thus they had conceded to the western powers their wishes, (like going against France in this war), and also they didn't seem intrested in going to India, meanwhile Tipu Sultan was even from the same political club as Napoleon
I mean, if I was like Tipu Sultan fighting to kick invaders off my country I would contact all their rivals, regardless if they're fighting each other XD
What baffles me about Napoleon is that he led this expedition into Egypt without proper supplies and then also leads his armies into Russia without proper supplies
A big part of his success in Italy was that his troops were able to live off the land (as in grab whatever wasn’t nailed down) and he assumed it would be the same in Egypt. Europeans knew nothing about the Saharan climate, so he had no way to know what to expect in Egypt.
Ayyyyyyyy I've been waiting for something like this keep up the good work extra history team and ill be sure to be a member forever :)
Thank you so much for becoming a member! It's people like you who help keep us going.
beautifully made! i love it! keep up the great works!
edit: 4:42 the over-exaggerated size of egypt is hilarious, you pushed the linear borders even further into the sands of Sudan and Lybia, maybe evn making Egypt have Benghazi, hilarious!
I noticed that too lol. I was like "Egypt is not that big" and looked up a map to make sure
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I have never seen this side of the Napoleonic wars thank you ❤
I forgot about this channel and now ima watch everything on it
i'm hoping to eventually write an allohistory story set in an Egypt that was successfully "permanently" conquered by Napoleonic France about a generation or two as of the story's events, so this is going to be an excellent starting point for that before i eventually get to the books on Egypt that i've been gathering up :)
Thats an amazing idea man. I’m also someone who actually rlly loved the opportunities of alternate history, because it allows you to explore your passion for history and creative writing without the risk of tarnishing and insulting history by getting the details of it wrong. I always feel like i might get something wrong if i ever wrote a historical novel, ik ppl take creative liberties but to a history student it feels like sin, and it can also be insulting to a lot of ppl.
What sort of stuff or ideas are you gonna be exploring? Like what impact does this have, what developments will turn out from this, what does Napoleon want to do or who does he become because of it? The storyline potential sounds great
@@GuineaPigEveryday i'm of a similar mind on fudging the details a bit in alternate history--you should still try to be as true to actual history as possible provided whatever story, but the genre gives some leeway just by being what it is
for mine, i haven't developed the actual events of Napoleon's time as much, (need to do more proper research on that) but the idea is that he'll still die when he did historically and for the same reasons--i know there's some alternate theories, which are floated in the vein conspiracy theory/secret history in the alternate timeline, but that's beside the point. the end result of his victory is that France is the premier European power of the 19th century but as far as imperialism goes is a bit more limited because of their ongoing rivalry with Britain and so that's more focused on the Mediterranean and the Suez.
the planned story itself is meant to be more about the timeline's divergent egyptology starting with a young French woman who basically smuggles herself there out of concern for her father, a soldier stationed at the Suez, because of the outbreak of an alternate Mahdi Revolt and she's essentially stuck in Egypt for the same reasons. she's upset about all this at first but starts getting over it as she becomes enamored with Egyptian antiquities and the story develops from there. she of course gathers up a group of friends and allies, but the only one i've done any development so far is a local Arab woman who becomes a "big sister mentor" figure to her, and the requisite antagonists (filling in as the Belloq or Donovan to her Indiana Jones) are Confederate expatriates who are meant to also feature in another story set to take place in the same timeline, this basically explaining what they did after they left the plot in the other one.
I know it's basic but I am really interested in Napoleon. Such an interesting life and time period
Here's hoping for a series about Thomas-Alexandre Dumas, his son Alexandre, and how it all ended up with him helping Garibaldi topple the kingdom of Naples to avenge his father.
The french army when the arrive at Alexandria: "My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined"
I know very little about Napoleon, my historical interests just usually take me 18th century or earlier, even though I also think more modern history is interesting. I am always interested in Egyptian history though, thus why I clicked this video. Point being that this is a story that I know absolutely nothing about, didn't even know it existed before now, and am fascinated to hear the full story, especially from this channel.
NEED a video series on Thomas Alexandre Dumas. Swashbuckling carribean does no justice to his story
Thank you for making this 🇪🇬
Another great video and I just love the sideshow bob reference with the rake.
Damn, I never knew that Napoleon was an advocate for the restoration of the Caliphate.
Well he did once state he liked Islam the most of all the Abrahamic faiths
Could you guys make a full video series on the Napoleon and the Napoleonic war?
Similar to what you did for Justinian and Bismarm,these kinds of series at least for me are the most interesting as they talk about great people of the past in great detail.
Oh that’s hilarious. The hieroglyphs at 5:40 isn’t middle Egyptian, it’s transliterated English and it says “it was Walpole”
4:00
Oh that's Josephine, boy she was a great kisser
Oversimplified reference 😂😂😂
It's funny how the only explanation to why Alexandria didn't look as magnificent then is: because a lot happened 😂
It's true 👍
OH YEAH, I have been looking forward to this series for a while! Keep up the good work guys!!
Finally a video about Napoleon, I was waiting for thet a couple of years
Napoleon and his men experiencing what thousands a year experience vacationing to paris
Napoleon Bonaparte the 1st, emperor, general, and the first LARPer
Love that thumbnail and 6:21! Napoleon you lucky man!
getting an egyptian waifu
7:40 Schpeel caught me off guard 🤣
There is nothing we can do
I love how you can start with epic history Napoleonic series, fill in the gaps here then go back
Napoleon is sideshow bob? 😱
I am glad we finally have a series on the French Campaign. Almost every single TH-camr who covers Napoleon only points out that it happened and that Napoleon had to his stay short, hope it covers the story beyond Napoleon as well.
Oh Boy, waiting years for a Extra History about Napoleon
My Napoleon knowledge is mostly about his defeat at the Battle of Waterloo and exile so a series of about Napoleon in Egypt is just what I need :)
Epic History TV already did a series on him talking about Toulon 1793, the empire 1804-1814(and 1815) and the first Italian campaign 1796-1797 which currently has 3 episodes. there are two more that need to come: Egypt and 2nd Italian campaign.
it's a very known fact that Napoleon stan Caesar, he even wrote a book on his campaigns while in exile in his later years.
Can't wait for the "Lies" for this one.
What happen the young person when this channel first started
Even though it's rather short, I really enjoyed this episode. Good job!
Alexandria had Rome Syndrome. When the relics are everywhere, they aren't valuable.
7:48- that is the 1st time that i have heard matt cursing. BIG CHANGE! I LOVE IT!
Ah yes Julius Ceasar I remember when he had to fight seven different empires at once forming coalitions
I love the napolean in Egypt stuff and always wanted to see more... thanks!
We need an Alexander the great series
Thomas-Alexandre Dumas deserves his own video series
Thank you for not skipping Malta, as all too often happens. As such, here in Malta it is said Napoleon spent 6 days, which it is said he did NOT sleep a single night... Puns intended.
Edit: Spelling
Single*
Intended*
Not to be rude tho just telling ya
@@itz.yukiix Appreciated and no offence taken.
I think I was half asleep when I wrote that.
Finally something about napoleon!
Please do Alexander the Great next. I'd really love to learn the actual details of his conquest of the known world
Kings and generals made a really good series about that
Loved the sideshow bob reference
Well, at Alexandria Korachim Pasa was certainly with 500 men, but the problem for the French were the Siphai cavalry who attacked the french columns outside the city, in fact some cantineers were captured R**ed and executed, while other soldier just either died or were executed after being captured.
Joshua Sawyer is one heck of a historian and video game maker. We all thought Caesars Legion was a about Rome when it really has historical precedence with Napoleon.
So Napoleon forgot to bring water into a desert. At least I know he won’t be stupid enough to try to invade Russia in the winter. Oh wait.
The first time I'm watching any of these with sound instead of subtitles