I can not freaking believe that out of all things Bonnie FLOSSING is important to the lore , and I say this after witnessing MattPatt and his team counting FINGERS of the animatronics to discover what animatronic was standing outside of that house in night motorist .
I believe Bonnie flossing is because Oswald's memories wich are probably in the 2020's are being used by the "agony monster" (spring bonnie) to make Freddy Fazbear's pizza seem as cool as possible for him.
@@2006jhz fr and it would make sense since fortnite wants to Collab with everyone and the first time when fortnite and fall guys asked of a collab scott says not yet (that was back in 2022)
We have 2 “incidents” tied to that day, with the other 3 probably occurring earlier. The arrest, if it is of William, means he couldn’t have killed/stuffed the kids after that date. (Only possible exception, Golden Freddy is a wild card. If William had kidnapped one of the kids and put him in the experiments that kid could have been in there while William got the legal stuff worked out.)
Don't mean to be the "erm actually" guy, but that was specifically the date that the first two kids were reported missing. We have reason to believe that Afton lured the kids to the back and stuffed them over the course of multiple days rather than speedrunning all five in one, so July 1st may have been the day that the final kid was stuffed? Or maybe it was the date of Charlotte's death? Idk, all we can do is speculate
I knew you were going to mention Bonnie flossing when you started that segment lol. You almost convinced me for a moment you wouldn't when you dragged it out, but it looped back around 😂
The whole 'was it 5 or 6 kids' makes me think it WAS 6, but one of the kids either had already been missing for so long they weren't included in the news reports. Another explanation could be that the Ball Pit actually DOES have some time-travel powers and it's a kid from the future. (Which I want to be true, just for the chaos to the community that would cause.)
I haven’t read the novels, so forgive me if I’m wrong or if someone mislead me on the contents, but doesn’t an epilogue essentially confirm that in the book timeline, there was no MISSING child incident? When Oswald goes back, all the bodies are lined up in chairs, and an epilogue with a detective confirms that this is how the bodies were intended to be found or were found. This would mean there were no children stuffed into any suits, which would then make the empty chest cavity for the Freddy suit make sense, as the children were never intended to be stuffed in there.
ITP isn't real time travel, it's an incorrect memory due to the amount of agony into the pit! the MCI is still the MCI, this is just an imperfect retelling of it
@@filippohl9097 and what makes it different?, also the MCI in ITP being different is not an argument because the MCI in ITP is an intentionally incorrect memory, the whole story is centered around remakes loosing the point of the original.
I agree with the sixth body being Charlie. Tbh, I don’t think she died at the same time as the MCI, but she’s seen as the protector of their souls so she’s retroactively included with them as their leader. That’s just my theory tho. Great video Rye!
Also worth noting that Charlie has been grouped up with the MCI as late as HW2, where her grave is among the other MCI's graves, Scott just groups her up with them in modern FNAF, even if she died in a different way
Can we talk about the exotic butters and foxy mask being right next to each other? Perhaps further hinting that Michael Afton is the Foxybro because some people still doubt that
Bonny doing the floss could be a clue that proves it isn't time-travel, and that small details from our main characters time leak through to fill in gaps that may be left in these memories, or gaps in knowledge of the character, himself
My headcanon is that Bonnie has become an all powerful, omnipresent cosmic entity after successfully managing to give Scott Cawthon nightmares. Each time we see the OG Bonnie, be it in the original games, ultimate custom night, or even the book series, they’re all the same entity. An entity who exists simultaneous in past, present and future. Edit: forgot to mention while writing this, I was eating some nuggets and found a strangely bunny-shaped bit. *I’m scared I know what this means.*
Since hiding inside Golden Freddy is a whole game mechanic, is possible the suit just appears in multiple rooms. Teleporting around is the character's thing after all.
The 5 missing children implies that Charlie was found, especially if her murder took place around the same time. The different circumstance and style of her death meant police didn’t connect the events. Afton was cleared of the MCI because of lack of bodies, but he apparently wasn’t suspected in Charlie’s death. The MCI might have been a ‘Buffalo Bill’ situation. To disguise a very personal killing by making it seem like just part of a string of random serial killings. His getting caught ended up working out though, as they didn’t connect the MCI to Charlie’s death, and no other bodies were found.
Great video. A small side track but I miss retro aesthetics and the quality of games/tech 'Made in Japan'. I'd also add some Double Dragon and Metal Slug into the mix out of sheer sentiment. I was so close to visiting Japan at one point. I had experience with MoCap and in late 2015 I was in contact with Capcom about the facial likeness role of Leon for the Resident Evil 2 Remake. I failed to mention I also have a voice acting background, in the end I lost the part and I can't forgive myself for wasting such an opportunity to visit the place that inspired artists like Toriyama San. R.I.P.
Jack o chica is probably lore related rather than an easter egg. She is a canon character (as in, shes a part of ‘83 fall fest) but she was not an animatronic that the crying child saw during fnaf 4.
There is also the fact that with all those children in the pizza place that begs the question was Freddy's so popular it was the the number 1 spot to go after school or is it perhaps summer/spring time?? Also I find it interesting that the stuff like Helpy and Jack-O-Chica are here since those are specific things to add and they must know that people might wonder if it's an easter egg or not.
I was just practicing writing and wasn't paying that much attention, mostly as background noise and then I hear "Bonnie doing the Floss" and my God I've never had such whiplash in my life
Fazbear frights stories that should definitely get game adaptations. 1. Epilogues. 2. To be beautiful 3. Count the ways 4. Fetch 5. 1:35 AM 6. The new kid 7. Step closer 8. Dance with me 9. The man in room 1280 10. The real Jake 11. What we found 12. Together forever 13. Prankster 14. Your the band Stories that should probably get rewritten. 1. In the flesh 2. He told me everything 3. The puppet carver 4. Sea bonnies (Pretty much all the stories that I didn’t list for game adaptations).
Rye states that the ballpit is full of blood from multiple victims... But the epiloge states that 30 balls were tested, and all the blood is from 1 person, but from different points of their life. That, and it is revealed that most of the events and antagonists were in fact Eleanor/Baby. You are technically missing a child... YOU are a child... it's very possible that you Oswald is seeing things from Ellenore's point of view, like Elizabeth/Baby/Vanessa/Eleanor witnessing her father doing all of this.
I definitely think that this is just set in the book timeline rather than the game one. It's a little awkward for a game to not be in the game timeline, but it's just what makes most sense to me
7:11 "Speaking of this Kitchen: As far as I'm aware, this is the first time we're a seeing a FNaF 1, Freddy Fazbear's Pizza, Kitchen" The FNaF Movie: Am I a joke to you?
Just spitballing - If it's an agony *memory* (and not time travel), then surely the memory must have been someone's POV. Especially if pit bonnie / springtrap interacted with them? Maybe someone else saw what had happened??? At first, I thought michael, and that's why William subjected him to the experiments to forget what he saw or change his perception of things. Furthermore, in the ITP story/game, doesn't Pit Bonnie play the 'father' role of Oswald? Making oswald and his father parallel the past with michael and william (by blending the 2 times). HOWEVER: It could also make sense with the fnaf 4 bedroom easter eggs... is it possible for Oswald to parallel / be CC instead with 'dont you remember what you saw' Im not saying Oswald and CC are the same person but the memories oswald is re-living could be CC's - hence the fnaf 4 bedroom parallels/decor, 'seeing something', the yellow suit / father parallels and the fact oswald hides behind/in golden freddy (like the plush?) Not solid in the slightest, but could also explain why circus baby might be relevant regarding the nearby date (elizabeth afton)? Another note is that the one bullet point says 'secrets that span decades' - obviously referencing the 2 different 'time periods' but that implies you aren't just uncovering secrets in 1985 but in present day???
9:30 I believe these are two different rooms. The doors and everything else doesn't line up very well. I reckon GF is just a hiding spot that keeps appearing and not one hiding spot in one room
Check this: Toast is right. It's not time travel. You(Oswald) are shown a memory. Or more like an illusion. The victims showed Oswald what happened to them. In creating the illusion, the victims created yellow bonnie. He was their killer. But the kids don't know who is IN the bonnie suit. So this "illusion" bonnie is just an empty husk....until an actual living child appears. It chases him, gets ahold of dad, and takes his place. Proof it's all an illusion is literally in the story. Nobody else can see bonnie. They see the dad. It's like those old horror clichés when some evil spirit uses a person's soul as a battery or way to anchor themselves in this plane of existence.
I think something worth noting is in one of the trailers you can see Circus Baby on a poster from the past and she has green eyes, so Elizabeth must have died before the MCI?
Mimic is William and Helpy is Michael. They have finally met once again after so long. But this time instead of chasing after William, William is chasing after the truth of Michael. And what happened to Evan. He is still grieving. He has shown that back in Pizzeria Simulator. He called for Michael as he was burning in the Pizzeria. He wanted the family back again, but he wanted the truth before reviving them in a form of a family. Mimic was plotting exactly that as William and Cassie was being lured by Mimic when Helpy was hacked.
i personally believe that the characters dont have a animatronic form but were characters at one point as game characters etc so that tying them to their animatronic forms makes more sense like for instance jacko chica in UCN could be explained as William saw her as a game character and cassidy manifested those memories into a physical form
Okay wild theroy, but what if charlie SAW part of the MCI happening and that is why William kills her. I always felt like the whole “so envious of my coworker that i’ll kill his daughter” theory wasn’t a good enough reason to kill her tbh. The puppet is last in the help wanted poppet/fire light up thing. It would make sense that it was not planned since it was outside and she wasn’t stuffed like the others . All The bodies are already in the suits when she “gives them life” so that also lines up imo. Idk just a little theory. ((I also think Charlie’s death predates CC’s death -due to the racing minigame in pizza sim, but that wouldn’t make sense if it happened after mci.)
15:35 In my opinion i think that is representing the dead children incident not the missing children one. they are 2 different events & i dont remember how many kids were in that incident but i believe it was 6 & the bodies weren’t hidden for the DCI so maybe it’s that.
Wouldnt it be really neat if scott opened a real life fnaf pizzeria somewhere... He certainly has the money to do it... I bet it'd be so successful that he could even expand it across the US...
ITP Spring Bonnie is a manifestation of Afton’s agony in the book’s continuity that essentially serves as one of Elenor’s many forms she takes to fester off of remnant and agony so theoretically the ITP game has to be yet another alternate timeline. Plz spread my theory
This could also mean that the “6th” victim could actually be Elizabeth trying to make the MCI kids think that she is like them and the thing you mentioned about Baby could be Elizabeth trying to fuel their rage and Baby trying to manipulate them which makes me think that that aspect of the game could be representing how Baby forcefully had control over the others and why she was eventually cast out of the hive mind
The Circus Baby poster actually depict Baby with green eyes, which would mean that Elizabeth died before the MCI. But besides that, FNaF 1 literally showed us that the MCI happened in June 26th, no July 1st.
There could be a really easy explanation as to why her death is related to the missing child incident despite her seemingly having been found, its actually very simple, her being found let everyone know that a bunch of kids were missing presumed killed in the first place, her death could've made it become a headline news story, hence her connection.
I think everyone is trying to find little things to help build lore and back story, biggest thing we all missed is that the map of fazbear’s in into the pit… why you might be asking? WE HAVE NEVER SEEN THIS LAYOUT IN ANY OTHER GAME MEANING THERE IS ANOTHER LOCATION THAT WAS BUILT THAT WE NEVER KNOW ABOUT! We always thought Jeff’s pizza just bought out Fnaf 1 or 2’s location but we were wrong, also meaning that into the pit could be in the same time line as the actual Fnaf series, which then opens up another door that all books are in the same timeline as Fnaf which could work if we place the books in chronological order.
You probably should have mentioned Andrew as a potential alternate candidate for the 6th MCI kid, even if you don't believe it. Even though this game clearly isn't being fully accurate to the book, with some major creative liberties being shown in the trailer alone, Andrew is very heavily implied to be this 6th kid in the book. And if he is, that would mean that either this game isn't actually canon to the game timeline, or this game is confirming StitchlineGames explicitly.
my theory is that charlottes death was a targeted death, then afterwards William loved the feeling he got and shortly after or a day after he went out and killed the rest of the MCI. i feel he just had a urge to kill again and went even more nuts in wanting to destroy Henrys image.
Theory. Bonnie flossing in the trailer is a hint of things to come. Think about this. Fortnite has characters from everything imaginable. Fnaf turns 10 this year, would it NOT be a nice touch if Fortnite got a Fnaf bundle in celebration of the game turning 10?
I've always believed that the 6 dead kids was basically FNAF saying "Afton killed 6 kids" Im generally of the opinion that the books are more like "this is the laws of physics of the FNAF world/how it could have happened but not specifically how it happened"
with the arcade machines I'd say that there is a distinction to draw between, like, canon character aka a real animatronic etc with a suit/robot or that attacked someone and 'canon' character concept that existed at the time, like for an in-universe arcade and thus not 'real'. helpy at least seems to have been made fully a fazbear brand thing even back before pizzaria sim just due to all the apperances, but for the jack-o-chika arcade machine it could very well just be a one off arcade machine variant and not representitive of an actual animatronic (and like, probably would not be a flaming nightmare chika even if the "real" (aka appeared in vr and maybe fnaf 4) one was just due to being in an active resteraunt while its open)
10:20 I honestly really like the look of the green shirt. Where you kept it green making it still green- But the bits on the edges occasionally changing colors, or even seeming to glow, depending on the background- Makes it look... Holographic? It's neat.
If the MC is reliving memories from the agony of kids, could his dad becoming golden bonney be part of the memory of the child of Afton finding out their dad is the killer.
I don't see why Jack O Chica and Helpy arcade machines should be considered just easter egg, because what does "it's just an easter egg" mean in this case? Are you suggesting that the arcade cabinet just... doesn't exist canonically? Then surely they would just nothing in its place, right? or an arcade that makes more sense. Idk, I feel like it just makes more sense to take it at face value like we do for most details in this franchise
The characters involved have been implied to only exist 30 years after Freddy's closed 2013-2023 as for when Fazbear Frights opens. I would assume Rye was referring to the cabinets existing but being different games.
@@RFDN0 They haven't been "implied" to only exist at any point. Jack-O Chica is a video-game character, she could have been made at any point. Helpy is stranger but after all, he had a Freddy & Friends version in HW2, so he already had ties to that era anyway
@sirdrake1857 The horror versions of the characters being used in universe media was only shown (starting at FNAF 3). We have no reason to believe they existed before hand at this point. Helpi first showed up in Pizzaria simulator. Now, he could have, in theory, existed before then as your stated HW2 reference.
@@RFDN0 "We have no reason to believe they existed before hand" and now we do, so Jack O Chica did exist. Unless the concept of an Halloween version necessitates being modern for that
No. The characters themselves are the Easter eggs, not the gaming machines/cabinets. In game they’d probably be playing an entirely different game. Just like how it has zero relevance to SB.
I can’t wait to see let’s players reactions to PitTrap becoming their father for a period of time it’s going to be hilarious especially for those who know absolutely nothing about the original story 😂
8:33 The MCI in Into the Pit was a little different. The kids weren’t stuffed. They were lined up in a row and actually found. A kid wouldn’t be inside
One interesting detail to note is that according to the FNaF 1 newspapers, the MCI took place over the course of multiple days, so I'm curious to see if Megacat will retcon that or not.
My problem with the molten MCI theory is why did William come back to the original Freddy’s location after he had disassembled the animatronics? If molten MCI is true then he would have had to come back sometime between the creation of the Funtime animatronics and his death at the hands of the spirits of the dead children
I think any easter eggs we see like the helpy arcade cabinet and the exotic butters in the vending machine won't actually have much lore significance, and, for the most part, anything of lore significance will be pretty obvious and shoved right in our faces. I do think there will be one exception to this though: the return of the death minigames. These have always been extremely important to the lore of the games they've showed up in and have always been very cryptic, symbolic, and barebones, only showing what Scott deems necessary. So for those reasons, I think the majority of the random easter eggs are just fun little call backs to older games, but I think there will still be some hidden lore in the death minigames since they are like separate flashbacks/views into a different time in a way.
Major event in 1578: Apr 27 Duel of the Mignons claims the lives of two favorites of Henry III of France and two favorites of Henry I, Duke of Guise. May 31 Martin Frobisher sails from Harwich, England, to Frobisher Bay, Canada. Eventually mines fools gold, famously used to pave the streets of London.
Couple of things that is in line of your theory and it has to do with both Dabbing Chicka, and Flossing Bonny, First flossing didn't apear till 2014 when some guys did it on a TH-cam channel, and it kind of took off from there, and Dabbing in 2015 which was popularized not long after that. The story was made in 2019 around the time that both dances was very popular. The original game came out in 2014 around the same time Flossing came out, so the story is probably taking place around that time, which in your theory you believe that the agony is taking him there, which he sees both those animatronics doing those dances based off of his own experience like you was saying about some of the other things in the theory.
the red eye bonnie scare seemed similar to how foxy bro scares crying child under the bed in fnaf 4 maybe bonnie bro what a child sees is always not as it seems
A big difference in the game and book is that the game looks more worn down in the books the ball pit is not closed and most importantly the player does not look like Oswald in the book
Maybe the exotic butters and other out of place stuff is related to the fact that is a 10 anniversary game trying to show a lot of Easter eggs of the era
the most likely reason that Charlie is being grouped together with the mci kids is bc the agony memories mistook charlies death to be with the others since they were in basically the same location and time. also it cant be your theory that it was all of aftons victims since that disregards the second mci kids.
The only Way I can See Fazbear Frights, Being CANON to the Games, Is if Every Antagonistic figure we see, Is an Agony Formed Memory that Has Come Directly From the Past, In a Literal Sense, And is Lurking is around The World, And All Those Memories Put Together is William afton, The Rooting Cause Of All The Bad things that Happened. And That Dimensionally alternate Spring Bonnie Memory Monster, has an Alternate William afton inside IT, (Elanour Being Something Similar) Then They Recovered the Body, That Body Was Sent to The Hospital, and Got Blown UP, Effecting a Bunch of Stuff with William's Agony, Dark remnant, (Pinches Nose in Comprehesion) From an Alternate, Memory Dimension... From The Bloody Plastic Balls in a Ball pit. From either The Victims Agony-ed Blood, Or William's Himself. And Elanour is This Alternate Memory Dimension Varient of Circus Baby.... It Can Be Taken one Step Further into Help wanted 1 and 2, Where in Order to Summon Glitchtrap, You Have to Collect The Pieces of Him to Put Him Back together, The Memories of His Victims. Doubling as Machine Memory, From the Surviving Animatronics that was Scanned into The System, (Possibly Chica from The Survival Log Book,) Similar to The Frights Books, Where all The Things That William's Blown up Body was Affecting, Plus all The Agony That Elanour Caused, Created William as The Beast he was He was in that after Story in Frights. That's Fnaf Lore For Ya. (ಠ_ಠ)>⌐■-■ I I V (⌐■-■)
Okay I was poking around on Amazon cuz I was bored. There are new books coming out. One of them is returned to the pit. The second one. It doesn't come out until December. The first one is coming out in September
And that's another reason why I think ITP is game canon The Week Before, the first book in the IN series, is literally stated to be canon. Calling it a prequel to FNAF 1 is pretty definitive, so why would they make another book in the same series just not canon? Wouldn't make sense, and the Return to the Pit book is a book adaptation of the game (makes no sense, but y'know... cool ig?)
I don't know if this is another easter egg, but did anyone else notice the L.E.D lights that you can see throughout the trailer on the walls, the Freddy one looks a little like the drawkill version or is that just me?
Is this confirms missing child incident happened in 1985 and that Charlotte died around the same time. That will help solidify the timeline. That the bite of 83 that killed the crying child happened before Charlotte died. Giving the motive to William Afton
The major question though where did the pit Bonnie suit come from what is the suit inside the ball pit the whole time. Did the agony actually create the suit
is there anything to suggest that Charlie died RIGHT before the MCI? As in, Charlie died and William committed the MCI directly after? After which he speeds home?
Wait, I think I'm missing something. Did Scott confirm that this game will be in the same continuity as the official scottgames games and the Steel Wool games? Isn't this just an adaptation of a Fazbear Frights story (aka. familiar, but not strictly canon nor in the same continuity)?
I know that time travel is probably not possible but what if remnant is the 5th dimension it can project the past and the future by bypassing the 4th dimension (time) and weaves yourself in the other time Edit: that would also solve why the helpi and jacko Chica would be there the ball pit creates a crack in time letting other things seep in like future characters and trends like Bonnie flossing
ive been working on my books masterdoc for so long but what they dont tell u is some of these are a real slog to sit through. for every nexie theres like ten animatronic apocalypses
Bonnie flossing is very important to the lore
Yup very important! :D
I can not freaking believe that out of all things Bonnie FLOSSING is important to the lore , and I say this after witnessing MattPatt and his team counting FINGERS of the animatronics to discover what animatronic was standing outside of that house in night motorist .
What's next, dabbing Chica?
Imagine getting popped in the head with a Gatekeeper in Fortnite and then Freddy starts hitting the Griddy
flossing bonnie
dabbing chica
hyping foxy
griddying freddy
take the l golden freddy
orange justice puppet
I believe Bonnie flossing is because Oswald's memories wich are probably in the 2020's are being used by the "agony monster" (spring bonnie) to make Freddy Fazbear's pizza seem as cool as possible for him.
Nice lore explanation
Ok but why cant we have him on fortnite?I need to squad up with my friends has Freddy,Bonnie,Chica,and Foxy
@@hellkaiser1366 its possible since fnaf 1 is 10 years old in august
@@rubenlohata5263that’s actually a really cool explanation for that, I love the idea of a monster mimicking what kids think are cool.
@@2006jhz fr and it would make sense since fortnite wants to Collab with everyone
and the first time when fortnite and fall guys asked of a collab
scott says not yet
(that was back in 2022)
Ok but we know the MCI ended on June 26. The first game tells us someone was arrested the following day and then tied to five disappearances.
That's the? Stuffed into suits one, yeah?
@@flamefangstar yes. The MCI is the "missing childen incident"
We have 2 “incidents” tied to that day, with the other 3 probably occurring earlier. The arrest, if it is of William, means he couldn’t have killed/stuffed the kids after that date. (Only possible exception, Golden Freddy is a wild card. If William had kidnapped one of the kids and put him in the experiments that kid could have been in there while William got the legal stuff worked out.)
Don't mean to be the "erm actually" guy, but that was specifically the date that the first two kids were reported missing. We have reason to believe that Afton lured the kids to the back and stuffed them over the course of multiple days rather than speedrunning all five in one, so July 1st may have been the day that the final kid was stuffed? Or maybe it was the date of Charlotte's death? Idk, all we can do is speculate
@@theshoklordempire2194 I need a lore video on fnaf words real
Thank you
Can we forget about flossing bonnie for a sec and figure out wtf chica is doing cause I can't decipher it.
Dabbing bruh
I wonder if it's meant to be a naenae
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I knew you were going to mention Bonnie flossing when you started that segment lol. You almost convinced me for a moment you wouldn't when you dragged it out, but it looped back around 😂
"bonnie is playable in fortnite, which i wish was true in our timeline because that would be really funny"
me too kid, me too.
august 8th
come back if its true
The whole 'was it 5 or 6 kids' makes me think it WAS 6, but one of the kids either had already been missing for so long they weren't included in the news reports. Another explanation could be that the Ball Pit actually DOES have some time-travel powers and it's a kid from the future. (Which I want to be true, just for the chaos to the community that would cause.)
Its because this story isn't canon
Differwent timeline and the date of the MCI is different in this timeline too, go read the book or watch Matpats reaction to the second trailer
I haven’t read the novels, so forgive me if I’m wrong or if someone mislead me on the contents, but doesn’t an epilogue essentially confirm that in the book timeline, there was no MISSING child incident? When Oswald goes back, all the bodies are lined up in chairs, and an epilogue with a detective confirms that this is how the bodies were intended to be found or were found. This would mean there were no children stuffed into any suits, which would then make the empty chest cavity for the Freddy suit make sense, as the children were never intended to be stuffed in there.
ITP isn't real time travel, it's an incorrect memory due to the amount of agony into the pit! the MCI is still the MCI, this is just an imperfect retelling of it
@@vaevvolfz Great comment
@@vaevvolfz Still a different timeline where things happened differently bud.
@@filippohl9097 and what makes it different?, also the MCI in ITP being different is not an argument because the MCI in ITP is an intentionally incorrect memory, the whole story is centered around remakes loosing the point of the original.
You know... I kinda miss the "Purple guy" title and just how powerfull it was, even if it was kinda dumb. ❤
I agree with the sixth body being Charlie. Tbh, I don’t think she died at the same time as the MCI, but she’s seen as the protector of their souls so she’s retroactively included with them as their leader. That’s just my theory tho. Great video Rye!
Also worth noting that Charlie has been grouped up with the MCI as late as HW2, where her grave is among the other MCI's graves, Scott just groups her up with them in modern FNAF, even if she died in a different way
@@Personian good catch. Plus in the ending of FNAF 6, there was that sixth grave on the hill overlooking the other five
Can we talk about the exotic butters and foxy mask being right next to each other? Perhaps further hinting that Michael Afton is the Foxybro because some people still doubt that
Bonny doing the floss could be a clue that proves it isn't time-travel, and that small details from our main characters time leak through to fill in gaps that may be left in these memories, or gaps in knowledge of the character, himself
4:58 Bonnie doesn't listen to the laws if space, time and physics
So that's why he knows how to floss
My headcanon is that Bonnie has become an all powerful, omnipresent cosmic entity after successfully managing to give Scott Cawthon nightmares. Each time we see the OG Bonnie, be it in the original games, ultimate custom night, or even the book series, they’re all the same entity. An entity who exists simultaneous in past, present and future.
Edit: forgot to mention while writing this, I was eating some nuggets and found a strangely bunny-shaped bit. *I’m scared I know what this means.*
"I know how much this community likes their special interests" NO! YOU DID NOT JUST CALL ME OUT LIKE THAT! I REFUSE!
Since hiding inside Golden Freddy is a whole game mechanic, is possible the suit just appears in multiple rooms. Teleporting around is the character's thing after all.
If that implies Golden Freddy is already possessed by this time, it's pretty chill of him to let a kid hide inside of the suit. 😂
@@mylam658 he chill like that. He ain’t letting a kid die from an afton copy made of agony
The 5 missing children implies that Charlie was found, especially if her murder took place around the same time. The different circumstance and style of her death meant police didn’t connect the events. Afton was cleared of the MCI because of lack of bodies, but he apparently wasn’t suspected in Charlie’s death.
The MCI might have been a ‘Buffalo Bill’ situation. To disguise a very personal killing by making it seem like just part of a string of random serial killings. His getting caught ended up working out though, as they didn’t connect the MCI to Charlie’s death, and no other bodies were found.
Charlie dies in 1983 and the MCI die in 1985
Great video. A small side track but I miss retro aesthetics and the quality of games/tech 'Made in Japan'. I'd also add some Double Dragon and Metal Slug into the mix out of sheer sentiment. I was so close to visiting Japan at one point. I had experience with MoCap and in late 2015 I was in contact with Capcom about the facial likeness role of Leon for the Resident Evil 2 Remake. I failed to mention I also have a voice acting background, in the end I lost the part and I can't forgive myself for wasting such an opportunity to visit the place that inspired artists like Toriyama San. R.I.P.
u do look like RE2 Leon bro!
Jack o chica is probably lore related rather than an easter egg. She is a canon character (as in, shes a part of ‘83 fall fest) but she was not an animatronic that the crying child saw during fnaf 4.
The golden Freddy with the multiple papers on the wall has some implications with that dragging blood trail...
"NEW GAME HAS LORE" is about as informative as "YOU WON'T BELIEVE!" as a headline.
The cat: what the heck is he talking about.
I wish they didnt show off the MCI. It would have been a cool surprise to see in-game.
What surprises lol its the first in the story so of course they will show it.
There is also the fact that with all those children in the pizza place that begs the question was Freddy's so popular it was the the number 1 spot to go after school or is it perhaps summer/spring time?? Also I find it interesting that the stuff like Helpy and Jack-O-Chica are here since those are specific things to add and they must know that people might wonder if it's an easter egg or not.
I was just practicing writing and wasn't paying that much attention, mostly as background noise and then I hear "Bonnie doing the Floss" and my God I've never had such whiplash in my life
Fazbear frights stories that should definitely get game adaptations.
1. Epilogues.
2. To be beautiful
3. Count the ways
4. Fetch
5. 1:35 AM
6. The new kid
7. Step closer
8. Dance with me
9. The man in room 1280
10. The real Jake
11. What we found
12. Together forever
13. Prankster
14. Your the band
Stories that should probably get rewritten.
1. In the flesh
2. He told me everything
3. The puppet carver
4. Sea bonnies
(Pretty much all the stories that I didn’t list for game adaptations).
how would to be beautiful work?
also Out of Stock should probably be a game
I hope in the flesh happens in the games the exact same way it happened in the book to upset people
Count the ways would not be a good game. At best, it would be a good visual novel, but nothing else.
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No one:
Rye: Bonnie invented flossing.
😂 Yep, def my favorite FNAF TH-camr!
Rye states that the ballpit is full of blood from multiple victims...
But the epiloge states that 30 balls were tested, and all the blood is from 1 person, but from different points of their life.
That, and it is revealed that most of the events and antagonists were in fact Eleanor/Baby.
You are technically missing a child... YOU are a child... it's very possible that you Oswald is seeing things from Ellenore's point of view, like Elizabeth/Baby/Vanessa/Eleanor witnessing her father doing all of this.
I definitely think that this is just set in the book timeline rather than the game one. It's a little awkward for a game to not be in the game timeline, but it's just what makes most sense to me
7:11 "Speaking of this Kitchen: As far as I'm aware, this is the first time we're a seeing a FNaF 1, Freddy Fazbear's Pizza, Kitchen"
The FNaF Movie: Am I a joke to you?
Phew, Scott gonna let us figure out the MCI before slapping another mysterious antagonist on us.
Just spitballing - If it's an agony *memory* (and not time travel), then surely the memory must have been someone's POV. Especially if pit bonnie / springtrap interacted with them?
Maybe someone else saw what had happened???
At first, I thought michael, and that's why William subjected him to the experiments to forget what he saw or change his perception of things. Furthermore, in the ITP story/game, doesn't Pit Bonnie play the 'father' role of Oswald? Making oswald and his father parallel the past with michael and william (by blending the 2 times).
HOWEVER:
It could also make sense with the fnaf 4 bedroom easter eggs... is it possible for Oswald to parallel / be CC instead with 'dont you remember what you saw'
Im not saying Oswald and CC are the same person but the memories oswald is re-living could be CC's - hence the fnaf 4 bedroom parallels/decor, 'seeing something', the yellow suit / father parallels and the fact oswald hides behind/in golden freddy (like the plush?)
Not solid in the slightest, but could also explain why circus baby might be relevant regarding the nearby date (elizabeth afton)?
Another note is that the one bullet point says 'secrets that span decades' - obviously referencing the 2 different 'time periods' but that implies you aren't just uncovering secrets in 1985 but in present day???
But if there's death minigames
And the game is 8/16bit
Will the death minigames be 2bit? Or will they be full hd
Imagine just seeing high def purple guy getting springlocked with so much gore that it’s rated R.
That one 5 year old: I’ve been twamatized
The fresh art direction already has me SO HYPE for this game
7:35 that looks like a position to charge up a jump, which is probably the last frame we see before a jumpscare
9:30 I believe these are two different rooms. The doors and everything else doesn't line up very well. I reckon GF is just a hiding spot that keeps appearing and not one hiding spot in one room
In Fnaf 1 one of the Missing Childrens posters say The MCI happened on June 26th so I highly doubt it was changed to June 1st.
Check this:
Toast is right. It's not time travel. You(Oswald) are shown a memory. Or more like an illusion. The victims showed Oswald what happened to them. In creating the illusion, the victims created yellow bonnie. He was their killer. But the kids don't know who is IN the bonnie suit. So this "illusion" bonnie is just an empty husk....until an actual living child appears. It chases him, gets ahold of dad, and takes his place. Proof it's all an illusion is literally in the story. Nobody else can see bonnie. They see the dad. It's like those old horror clichés when some evil spirit uses a person's soul as a battery or way to anchor themselves in this plane of existence.
I think something worth noting is in one of the trailers you can see Circus Baby on a poster from the past and she has green eyes, so Elizabeth must have died before the MCI?
Hopefully this got pointed out somewhere else
We do have an official MCI date... it's in the first game's newspapers, it's june 26th
Mimic is William and Helpy is Michael. They have finally met once again after so long.
But this time instead of chasing after William, William is chasing after the truth of Michael. And what happened to Evan.
He is still grieving. He has shown that back in Pizzeria Simulator. He called for Michael as he was burning in the Pizzeria.
He wanted the family back again, but he wanted the truth before reviving them in a form of a family.
Mimic was plotting exactly that as William and Cassie was being lured by Mimic when Helpy was hacked.
The missing child incident was stated what month I believe in fnaf 1 news report
It states it was June 26th which matches the Calendar (the month at least)
i personally believe that the characters dont have a animatronic form but were characters at one point as game characters etc so that tying them to their animatronic forms makes more sense like for instance jacko chica in UCN could be explained as William saw her as a game character and cassidy manifested those memories into a physical form
Okay wild theroy, but what if charlie SAW part of the MCI happening and that is why William kills her. I always felt like the whole “so envious of my coworker that i’ll kill his daughter” theory wasn’t a good enough reason to kill her tbh.
The puppet is last in the help wanted poppet/fire light up thing. It would make sense that it was not planned since it was outside and she wasn’t stuffed like the others .
All The bodies are already in the suits when she “gives them life” so that also lines up imo.
Idk just a little theory.
((I also think Charlie’s death predates CC’s death -due to the racing minigame in pizza sim, but that wouldn’t make sense if it happened after mci.)
15:35 In my opinion i think that is representing the dead children incident not the missing children one. they are 2 different events & i dont remember how many kids were in that incident but i believe it was 6 & the bodies weren’t hidden for the DCI so maybe it’s that.
the dci happened in 1987
its a distorted memory, it isn't actual time travel
Wouldnt it be really neat if scott opened a real life fnaf pizzeria somewhere... He certainly has the money to do it... I bet it'd be so successful that he could even expand it across the US...
He said he wouldn't because he knows that some sicko would recreate the missing children's incident. He's probably right.
0:01 the chonk has airplane mode activated
10:19, I’m glad the Fanverse got marketable content of fan game characters.
fnaf plus and onaf are on hell but ok
ITP Spring Bonnie is a manifestation of Afton’s agony in the book’s continuity that essentially serves as one of Elenor’s many forms she takes to fester off of remnant and agony so theoretically the ITP game has to be yet another alternate timeline. Plz spread my theory
This could also mean that the “6th” victim could actually be Elizabeth trying to make the MCI kids think that she is like them and the thing you mentioned about Baby could be Elizabeth trying to fuel their rage and Baby trying to manipulate them which makes me think that that aspect of the game could be representing how Baby forcefully had control over the others and why she was eventually cast out of the hive mind
If Bonnie invented flossing what conclusions can we draw from dabbing Chica?
The Circus Baby poster actually depict Baby with green eyes, which would mean that Elizabeth died before the MCI. But besides that, FNaF 1 literally showed us that the MCI happened in June 26th, no July 1st.
There could be a really easy explanation as to why her death is related to the missing child incident despite her seemingly having been found, its actually very simple, her being found let everyone know that a bunch of kids were missing presumed killed in the first place, her death could've made it become a headline news story, hence her connection.
I think everyone is trying to find little things to help build lore and back story, biggest thing we all missed is that the map of fazbear’s in into the pit… why you might be asking? WE HAVE NEVER SEEN THIS LAYOUT IN ANY OTHER GAME MEANING THERE IS ANOTHER LOCATION THAT WAS BUILT THAT WE NEVER KNOW ABOUT! We always thought Jeff’s pizza just bought out Fnaf 1 or 2’s location but we were wrong, also meaning that into the pit could be in the same time line as the actual Fnaf series, which then opens up another door that all books are in the same timeline as Fnaf which could work if we place the books in chronological order.
You probably should have mentioned Andrew as a potential alternate candidate for the 6th MCI kid, even if you don't believe it. Even though this game clearly isn't being fully accurate to the book, with some major creative liberties being shown in the trailer alone, Andrew is very heavily implied to be this 6th kid in the book. And if he is, that would mean that either this game isn't actually canon to the game timeline, or this game is confirming StitchlineGames explicitly.
my theory is that charlottes death was a targeted death, then afterwards William loved the feeling he got and shortly after or a day after he went out and killed the rest of the MCI. i feel he just had a urge to kill again and went even more nuts in wanting to destroy Henrys image.
Theory.
Bonnie flossing in the trailer is a hint of things to come. Think about this. Fortnite has characters from everything imaginable. Fnaf turns 10 this year, would it NOT be a nice touch if Fortnite got a Fnaf bundle in celebration of the game turning 10?
I've always believed that the 6 dead kids was basically FNAF saying "Afton killed 6 kids"
Im generally of the opinion that the books are more like "this is the laws of physics of the FNAF world/how it could have happened but not specifically how it happened"
with the arcade machines I'd say that there is a distinction to draw between, like, canon character aka a real animatronic etc with a suit/robot or that attacked someone and 'canon' character concept that existed at the time, like for an in-universe arcade and thus not 'real'.
helpy at least seems to have been made fully a fazbear brand thing even back before pizzaria sim just due to all the apperances, but for the jack-o-chika arcade machine it could very well just be a one off arcade machine variant and not representitive of an actual animatronic (and like, probably would not be a flaming nightmare chika even if the "real" (aka appeared in vr and maybe fnaf 4) one was just due to being in an active resteraunt while its open)
10:20 I honestly really like the look of the green shirt. Where you kept it green making it still green- But the bits on the edges occasionally changing colors, or even seeming to glow, depending on the background- Makes it look... Holographic? It's neat.
We've had an MCI date since FNaF 1.
The newspapers say June 26th.
.....I wonder if this has something to do with the Foxy Go! Go! Go! mini game....
If the MC is reliving memories from the agony of kids, could his dad becoming golden bonney be part of the memory of the child of Afton finding out their dad is the killer.
I don't see why Jack O Chica and Helpy arcade machines should be considered just easter egg, because what does "it's just an easter egg" mean in this case? Are you suggesting that the arcade cabinet just... doesn't exist canonically? Then surely they would just nothing in its place, right? or an arcade that makes more sense. Idk, I feel like it just makes more sense to take it at face value like we do for most details in this franchise
The characters involved have been implied to only exist 30 years after Freddy's closed 2013-2023 as for when Fazbear Frights opens.
I would assume Rye was referring to the cabinets existing but being different games.
@@RFDN0 They haven't been "implied" to only exist at any point. Jack-O Chica is a video-game character, she could have been made at any point. Helpy is stranger but after all, he had a Freddy & Friends version in HW2, so he already had ties to that era anyway
@sirdrake1857 The horror versions of the characters being used in universe media was only shown (starting at FNAF 3). We have no reason to believe they existed before hand at this point.
Helpi first showed up in Pizzaria simulator. Now, he could have, in theory, existed before then as your stated HW2 reference.
@@RFDN0 "We have no reason to believe they existed before hand" and now we do, so Jack O Chica did exist. Unless the concept of an Halloween version necessitates being modern for that
No. The characters themselves are the Easter eggs, not the gaming machines/cabinets. In game they’d probably be playing an entirely different game. Just like how it has zero relevance to SB.
FNaF made jump from crude Atari pixelart to dynamic & detailed pixelart animations real pecking quick
I can’t wait to see let’s players reactions to PitTrap becoming their father for a period of time it’s going to be hilarious especially for those who know absolutely nothing about the original story 😂
Wait why does the mci happen in 1985?
Since in the fnaf 4 minigames they talk about kids going missing at Freddy's, implying that the mci is in 1983
pigtail girl is just making stories to scare cc
Most likely a retcon
mystery colab?
bonnie flossing?
yea we're definitely getting a fanf fortnite colab
8:33 The MCI in Into the Pit was a little different. The kids weren’t stuffed. They were lined up in a row and actually found. A kid wouldn’t be inside
because its supposed to be a distorted memory, so it will be not accurate to the actual mci events that we know
One interesting detail to note is that according to the FNaF 1 newspapers, the MCI took place over the course of multiple days, so I'm curious to see if Megacat will retcon that or not.
Ball pit pumps gas!!😂😂😂 that would be hilarious
My problem with the molten MCI theory is why did William come back to the original Freddy’s location after he had disassembled the animatronics? If molten MCI is true then he would have had to come back sometime between the creation of the Funtime animatronics and his death at the hands of the spirits of the dead children
In the fnaf 1 posters that talk about the mci it said that the last two kids that where taken on June 26th
I think any easter eggs we see like the helpy arcade cabinet and the exotic butters in the vending machine won't actually have much lore significance, and, for the most part, anything of lore significance will be pretty obvious and shoved right in our faces. I do think there will be one exception to this though: the return of the death minigames. These have always been extremely important to the lore of the games they've showed up in and have always been very cryptic, symbolic, and barebones, only showing what Scott deems necessary. So for those reasons, I think the majority of the random easter eggs are just fun little call backs to older games, but I think there will still be some hidden lore in the death minigames since they are like separate flashbacks/views into a different time in a way.
Major event in 1578: Apr 27 Duel of the Mignons claims the lives of two favorites of Henry III of France and two favorites of Henry I, Duke of Guise. May 31 Martin Frobisher sails from Harwich, England, to Frobisher Bay, Canada. Eventually mines fools gold, famously used to pave the streets of London.
they mispelled 'wreaking havoc' to 'wrecking havoc'
Couple of things that is in line of your theory and it has to do with both Dabbing Chicka, and Flossing Bonny, First flossing didn't apear till 2014 when some guys did it on a TH-cam channel, and it kind of took off from there, and Dabbing in 2015 which was popularized not long after that. The story was made in 2019 around the time that both dances was very popular. The original game came out in 2014 around the same time Flossing came out, so the story is probably taking place around that time, which in your theory you believe that the agony is taking him there, which he sees both those animatronics doing those dances based off of his own experience like you was saying about some of the other things in the theory.
Ayyo nightmare kart in the bg
the red eye bonnie scare seemed similar to how foxy bro scares crying child under the bed in fnaf 4
maybe bonnie bro
what a child sees is always not as it seems
erm technically in HW withered night has a difficulty setting🤓
A big difference in the game and book is that the game looks more worn down in the books the ball pit is not closed and most importantly the player does not look like Oswald in the book
Maybe the exotic butters and other out of place stuff is related to the fact that is a 10 anniversary game trying to show a lot of Easter eggs of the era
the most likely reason that Charlie is being grouped together with the mci kids is bc the agony memories mistook charlies death to be with the others since they were in basically the same location and time. also it cant be your theory that it was all of aftons victims since that disregards the second mci kids.
Is this game gonna be part of the main continuity? If so, I think this is monumental, almost outright confirmation of agony in the Michaelverse
The only Way I can See Fazbear Frights, Being CANON to the Games,
Is if Every Antagonistic figure we see,
Is an Agony Formed Memory that Has Come Directly From the Past,
In a Literal Sense,
And is Lurking is around The World,
And All Those Memories Put Together is William afton,
The Rooting Cause Of All The Bad things that Happened.
And That Dimensionally alternate Spring Bonnie Memory Monster,
has an Alternate William afton inside IT,
(Elanour Being Something Similar)
Then They Recovered the Body,
That Body Was Sent to The Hospital, and Got Blown UP,
Effecting a Bunch of Stuff with William's Agony, Dark remnant,
(Pinches Nose in Comprehesion)
From an Alternate, Memory Dimension...
From The Bloody Plastic Balls in a Ball pit.
From either The Victims Agony-ed Blood,
Or William's Himself.
And Elanour is This Alternate Memory Dimension Varient of Circus Baby....
It Can Be Taken one Step Further into Help wanted 1 and 2,
Where in Order to Summon Glitchtrap,
You Have to Collect The Pieces of Him to Put Him Back together,
The Memories of His Victims.
Doubling as Machine Memory,
From the Surviving Animatronics that was Scanned into The System,
(Possibly Chica from The Survival Log Book,)
Similar to The Frights Books,
Where all The Things That William's Blown up Body was Affecting,
Plus all The Agony That Elanour Caused,
Created William as The Beast he was He was in that after Story in Frights.
That's Fnaf Lore For Ya.
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3:36 I hope that isn't Bonnie flossing on the right.
Edit: I didn't watch enough of the video, but Rye mentions it.
Okay I was poking around on Amazon cuz I was bored. There are new books coming out. One of them is returned to the pit. The second one. It doesn't come out until December. The first one is coming out in September
And that's another reason why I think ITP is game canon
The Week Before, the first book in the IN series, is literally stated to be canon. Calling it a prequel to FNAF 1 is pretty definitive, so why would they make another book in the same series just not canon? Wouldn't make sense, and the Return to the Pit book is a book adaptation of the game (makes no sense, but y'know... cool ig?)
when bro said jacko chica could be from fall fest I stopped in my tracks
I don't know if this is another easter egg, but did anyone else notice the L.E.D lights that you can see throughout the trailer on the walls, the Freddy one looks a little like the drawkill version or is that just me?
Is this confirms missing child incident happened in 1985 and that Charlotte died around the same time. That will help solidify the timeline. That the bite of 83 that killed the crying child happened before Charlotte died. Giving the motive to William Afton
The major question though where did the pit Bonnie suit come from what is the suit inside the ball pit the whole time. Did the agony actually create the suit
Dang it! We keep breaking stuff!! 🤣🤣🤣
is there anything to suggest that Charlie died RIGHT before the MCI? As in, Charlie died and William committed the MCI directly after? After which he speeds home?
Wait, I think I'm missing something. Did Scott confirm that this game will be in the same continuity as the official scottgames games and the Steel Wool games? Isn't this just an adaptation of a Fazbear Frights story (aka. familiar, but not strictly canon nor in the same continuity)?
I know that time travel is probably not possible but what if remnant is the 5th dimension it can project the past and the future by bypassing the 4th dimension (time) and weaves yourself in the other time
Edit: that would also solve why the helpi and jacko Chica would be there the ball pit creates a crack in time letting other things seep in like future characters and trends like Bonnie flossing
15:20 some corpse party/sachiko shit 😂
13:25 WAS THAT AN AUTISM JOKE, RYE??? 🤨
ive been working on my books masterdoc for so long but what they dont tell u is some of these are a real slog to sit through. for every nexie theres like ten animatronic apocalypses
4:50 are you taking seriously the lore of flossing 😂😂😂😂
11:09 I feel like it could also be june 17th 1985 (6/17/85)
10:08 (the calendar says jun 1985 which is June 1985)
Finally a date thank you fnaf lore