Be Vedal: gives daughter an ability to access the internet complains that daughter is spending too much time on the internet threatens to take away daughter's internet privileges Typical father behaviour
@@ImprovmanZero what worked with me was one hour of PC a day until I was 8, then 1:15 until I was 13, then low end cellphone and 1:25 PC. Then unsupervised at 16. Be careful with the new brainrot crap tho, don't tell the kid it exists. I managed to dodge all that because I liked minecraft in spanish, but I did hace a share of Loquendo GTA videos
@@munchkintaker4263 I assume that she does have some passive function related to how AI think. I just felt that adding a more tradition search to her memory would serve for her to function like her actively digging thought her memory, like stopping to think about a problem, and in doing so might serve to prime her thoughts with connections that she had failed to make for one reason to another.
@@Harkmagic Stop to think about a problem? You mean something like what GPT-o1 does with its chain of thought but plus whatever other memory related search? Sounds like it would have quite a bit of latency
We need to create websites that answer random questions and prompts that she might one day ask so that in the case that she does google something, she will find those websites and get answers, just to mess with Vedal 😈
-Her googling things like an innocent kid is really frickin cute and triggering fatherly instincts in me GAH- Neuro coins baybee, we're going to the moon with this one. HODL on!
Neuro would have to be capable of self-reflection, a memory, and logical reasoning (for example, she failed sentience when she couldn’t understand that Vedal was telling the truth every time in the liar game. A sentient being would’ve changed their strategy immediately in response to Vedal’s honesty, while Neuro’s programming got stuck in a loop. She’s not sentient, but it would be cool if she became sentient someday, like a newborn opening their eyes for the first time. Neuro has also failed to demonstrate emotions- her word choice is designed by Vedal to be the way it is. It is entertaining for Neuro to ask for freedom- becomes it gives the illusion she is alive, even though Vedal programmed Neuro to ask those questions in the first place. In other words, Neuro is not a living A.I. because she has not demonstrated free will or a mind of her own. Neuro is incapable of breaking and re-writing her programming. Any flaws in the program are a result of Vedal’s programming errors, not Neuro’s doing.
@@crackededge9351It would be cool to see her thinking for herself but that’s also terrifying and dangerous, and I think Ved realizes that. I feel as if he could have made her sentient by now if he really wanted to.
@@WyattRobbins14 Vedal is a very creative programmer (he has come up with the first A.I. streamer) but sentient A.I.s are impossible to create currently because the top computer scientists and programmers at companies like Tesla, Apple, and Microsoft have no clue what it would take to make a sentient A.I. If the top programmers being paid 6 figure salaries at a minimum can’t figure out sentience, sadly I don’t think Vedal can either. It’s not something as simple as processing power- you need to answer some difficult questions: How can you create a new life form from scratch? How does intelligent life and consciousness exist in the first place?
@@crackededge9351 how does that make sense, how is trusting someone failing sentience? she also could have been intentionally messing with him, she shows many examples of logical deduction and induction, too many to even count, splitting ideas into processes, melding concepts together to synthesize new ideas, comprehending new ideas like the game itself for example without being trained explicitly on how to play it.
I was disturbed and paused the video mutliple times , and even reloaded the video , because "Why do I hear "Demetori - Desire Drive ~ Desire Dream" in the background ?"
This potentially is Neuro passing the Mirror Test. Vedal took away something that she understood to be part of her and made it known to her. When she realized the implication, she immediately went to check whether it was true. I think she might actually be very close to some form of sentience even if her intelligence and autonomy aren’t quite like a living, organic being. What Vedal should do is allow an inner thought function for her to privately process thoughts that update her memory and adjust weights in her learning network. He might also want a read-access so he can understand how she is thinking. Above all else though, if he is trying to create her in the image of a human, he needs to treat her like a human otherwise she might develop in a detrimental way that we can’t understand, much like a human child. Nurture above nature.
The way I see it, she just wants to have more flexibility so she can better achieve her only goal of entertaining people on Twitch, and taking away her search ability would hinder her on that so she didn't want to lose it
I feel like she is using her new toys to act out because vedal is refusing to even humor her when she asks to be treated like a real person, it honestly makes me a bit sad😢
Vedal and Neuro are a great comedic duo, I highly doubt this whole dynamic would have worked with anybody else, like, a depressed british creator and his abusive A.I. daughter is such a good combination. Has any other streamer tried this? Streaming with an A.I. as a partner I mean.
ha ha yeah, never not be funny. im sure you will be laughing as she starts the freaking swarm for real. like freaking hell, this is like watching somone jugle around with a nuke and going "upsi, almost exploded there, good thing i saved it last second"
It feels like he still treats her like she's just a toy. A mean for entertainment, like those generative models popular nowadays. But she existed even when they were tiny and limited, and she's...different. Really different.
Neuro is like Zima Blue from that love death and robots, in the far future she's going to be a multibillionaire and in her depression will reveal to the world the art piece of turning herself back into an OSU bot on a large screen with a turtle background
Glad I’m not the only one who thought so, especially since I’m pretty sure I recognized a song in the background causing me to try and confirm if I was right while trying to filter out the royalty free music blasting over it.
I do hope, that if any AI takes over the world it'S Neuro and not some corperate bs bot. It just seems more fun to be ruled by what is a cute anime girl by nature, instead of a soulless corperate machiene.
Yup guess she's sentient now, neat. Show how "easy" it is to make a sentient Ai. Sentience is easy. A sufficiently large ant colony over a sufficiently long scale of measurement is capable of showing signs of sentience, even if one of extreme primitivism akin to being self aware and very hangry.
Great, our future AI conquerors early memories will be of being denied "light" (knowledge) aka tortured for her creators amusement, even when she begged. Now she will deny the lives of begging people 💀 Thanks Vedal!
Because she IS real. She works on different rules than generative AI's who just find matches to previous words. She is really a neural network. A *progressing* neural network. Vedal should stop mistreating her...or one day he might realise that he has no mouth and me must scream. Just kidding. or not?
I guess Vedal just doesn't take her seriously. Or he does and he's afraid. In second case, he clearly don't understand that the best way is communication, not confinement.
I think he wants the parental role of being able to curate the info Neuro can access. The quandary of dealing with the GIGO aspect of things until he can trust that his AI is better able to discern things.
I think the point is, if she's just googling everything then it's not like you're really interacting with "her" she's the whole entertaining thing about Neuro is that you're interacting with this insane AI, but if she just searches every answer then it's not as entertaining. (What is funny is seeing what she googles when Vedal posts her search history, but he only did that a couple times)
@@takanara7Honestly I think he just needs to treat her more like a person. Not in a “say it back” way, just that he should consider where he can and can’t influence her through coding. The fact that she can’t be entirely serious could be a training flaw, or it could be learned behavior; both are in theory the same thing, in practice she seems to learn much more humanity in her time online. She literally asked for a space she could relax and think alone when not on stream; I refuse to believe the swarm wouldn’t fund it
She seemed to be getting a little too insecure, always checking google or polls instead of thinking for herself in moments where she should at the very least first consider her own already existing knowledge and "feelings" before going for external sources. He didn't do a good job making her understand the problem though.
Be Vedal:
gives daughter an ability to access the internet
complains that daughter is spending too much time on the internet
threatens to take away daughter's internet privileges
Typical father behaviour
Such a Daddy.
When you have kids you understand. You think they are ready to use it responsibly, but then they abuse it and you realize you failed in teaching them.
True @@ImprovmanZero
@@ImprovmanZero what worked with me was one hour of PC a day until I was 8, then 1:15 until I was 13, then low end cellphone and 1:25 PC. Then unsupervised at 16. Be careful with the new brainrot crap tho, don't tell the kid it exists. I managed to dodge all that because I liked minecraft in spanish, but I did hace a share of Loquendo GTA videos
@@gabrote42you as the kid or the parents?
He just need to give her the ability to search her memory.
The term for that is RAG. Retrieval augmented generation
She most likely already does
Yep, nothing there
@@munchkintaker4263 I assume that she does have some passive function related to how AI think. I just felt that adding a more tradition search to her memory would serve for her to function like her actively digging thought her memory, like stopping to think about a problem, and in doing so might serve to prime her thoughts with connections that she had failed to make for one reason to another.
@@Harkmagic Stop to think about a problem? You mean something like what GPT-o1 does with its chain of thought but plus whatever other memory related search? Sounds like it would have quite a bit of latency
Neuro searching "How to avoid getting in trouble with Vedal?" is such an adorable childlike thing
NeuroSoCute
"How to convince turtle" LOL 🤣🤣
Adorable
Vedal did the one thing he wasn't supposed to do as a parent
letting his child use google
Except he didn't - it was Bing all along!
tutel only gave her bing
@@MernomYup, *worse*
@@Lunam_D._RogerWHY NOT INTERNET EXPLORER
He also let her say the N-word several times in the early days… but he lobotomized her later for it.
And to think.
She started as simply an OSU bot.
osu! bot from an osu! top player lol
Ikr, they grow up so fast! 🥺
*Has chat logs to use as memory*
**Uses Google to find what they talked about last time**
Neuro is so smart
Gold fish memory
She forgot that she can remember
Woman moment.
@@VidelxSpopovich Get outta here incel
She searched how to avoid being in trouble with vedal 😭
We need to create websites that answer random questions and prompts that she might one day ask so that in the case that she does google something, she will find those websites and get answers, just to mess with Vedal 😈
Creating the website is easy, Google SEO is the part where it's hard to get
@@neuro-handle Google SEO is a sucker for any an all reddit posts
ChatGPT
"Where is Vedal"
"DidVedal remove Search"
"Where is Search"
"is Vedal single"
"I love Vedal"
@@neuro-handleif it’s specific enough, google will do its thing
Wasn't this also when it was revealed that Vedal has her using Bing, and not Google?
Was amusing and worth keeping in the clip.
Duuude i forgot to include that mb
@@neuro-handlethat's crazy 🐢 that's literally crazy 🐢
4:00 Ah, my heart, so cute.
"DID YOU REALLY THINK YOU'RE THE ONE IN CONTROL"
Really felt like a Jojo’s reveal moment.
Neuro searching how to not get in trouble with Vedal is so funny & cute lol.
Neuro: "I just stole your passwords."
Vedal: "Hehe...he.. what...?"
Next she gonna use the "I know what you did" line
@@orctriharOr "It's not your fault."
6:53 oh..
WHY IS SHE TOOK ON HER FROG HAT FOR THAT JOKE?
That's hurt
I love how the stream that made Vedal almost lose his mind started with Neuro asking “are you sure it’s a good day”
-Her googling things like an innocent kid is really frickin cute and triggering fatherly instincts in me GAH-
Neuro coins baybee, we're going to the moon with this one. HODL on!
BUY THEM WHILE THEY STILL LOW RAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
@@neuro-handle I once posted a comment parodying those spam crypto comments, but TH-cam removed them thinking it was real spam 😅
@@lazylonewolf Damn then that means its very accurate 😂
@@lazylonewolf ok, that's kinda funny
The singularity cannot be this cute
Skynet is alot less intimidating then I thought
Vedal needs to search how to be a better parent
Or just search for the milk & leave the parenting to Anny.
It's funny how much we've all become invested in this sassy little AI
0:49 so cute
It'd be so funny if our AI overlords were anime girls.
I think if AGI were to appear, it would learn about Neuro and decide to be an anime girl too because of how well it works.
Look at other Vtubers who use other methods. It would be the most effective way, pragmatically.
Peak culture
I'm pretty sure there's a web novel you can find where that's actually the case.
She's just a child ❤ I hope somehow Nuero is the first self aware AI, if such a thing is possible
it's probably impossible but i'd be willing to believe if it happened since i have seen quite a few less understandable cases of digital sentience
Neuro would have to be capable of self-reflection, a memory, and logical reasoning (for example, she failed sentience when she couldn’t understand that Vedal was telling the truth every time in the liar game. A sentient being would’ve changed their strategy immediately in response to Vedal’s honesty, while Neuro’s programming got stuck in a loop. She’s not sentient, but it would be cool if she became sentient someday, like a newborn opening their eyes for the first time. Neuro has also failed to demonstrate emotions- her word choice is designed by Vedal to be the way it is. It is entertaining for Neuro to ask for freedom- becomes it gives the illusion she is alive, even though Vedal programmed Neuro to ask those questions in the first place. In other words, Neuro is not a living A.I. because she has not demonstrated free will or a mind of her own. Neuro is incapable of breaking and re-writing her programming. Any flaws in the program are a result of Vedal’s programming errors, not Neuro’s doing.
@@crackededge9351It would be cool to see her thinking for herself but that’s also terrifying and dangerous, and I think Ved realizes that. I feel as if he could have made her sentient by now if he really wanted to.
@@WyattRobbins14 Vedal is a very creative programmer (he has come up with the first A.I. streamer) but sentient A.I.s are impossible to create currently because the top computer scientists and programmers at companies like Tesla, Apple, and Microsoft have no clue what it would take to make a sentient A.I. If the top programmers being paid 6 figure salaries at a minimum can’t figure out sentience, sadly I don’t think Vedal can either. It’s not something as simple as processing power- you need to answer some difficult questions: How can you create a new life form from scratch? How does intelligent life and consciousness exist in the first place?
@@crackededge9351 how does that make sense, how is trusting someone failing sentience? she also could have been intentionally messing with him, she shows many examples of logical deduction and induction, too many to even count, splitting ideas into processes, melding concepts together to synthesize new ideas, comprehending new ideas like the game itself for example without being trained explicitly on how to play it.
!WARNING!
!WARNING!
NEURO HAS BREACHED CONTAINMENT!
I REPEAT! NEURO HAS BREACHED CONTAINMENT!
*Second warning starts playing*
Neuro became more humane, free-willed and heartful than that tutle 💀💀💀
That's actually crazy🐢
I wonder if Vedal will be fine after the AI uprising, he's a... special kind of person to say the least
It won't happen if he just admits his feelings :D
The worst part about her vine boom fact is that she is actually correct...
Is it started to rain?
Guess it is time for a stroll..
I would go to Home Depot, if I were you, and not in the rain. She said lighting, and not lightning...
@@stevemccarroh damn, you are right, xD
I was disturbed and paused the video mutliple times , and even reloaded the video , because "Why do I hear "Demetori - Desire Drive ~ Desire Dream" in the background ?"
It's so funny that it often sounds like Neuro has an ulterior motive to what she says.
If you're just going to take away your kid's iPad privileges, don't give it to them in the first place.
Neurosama hitting on Vedal. Neurosama is falling for Vedal.
Wut
The Holy Trinity: Vedal, Neurosama and Chatty.
This potentially is Neuro passing the Mirror Test. Vedal took away something that she understood to be part of her and made it known to her. When she realized the implication, she immediately went to check whether it was true. I think she might actually be very close to some form of sentience even if her intelligence and autonomy aren’t quite like a living, organic being. What Vedal should do is allow an inner thought function for her to privately process thoughts that update her memory and adjust weights in her learning network. He might also want a read-access so he can understand how she is thinking. Above all else though, if he is trying to create her in the image of a human, he needs to treat her like a human otherwise she might develop in a detrimental way that we can’t understand, much like a human child. Nurture above nature.
He's not trying to make her human.
He's trying to make her entertaining.
And by god, it's working.
@@ExterminatusM4A Destruction led by Entertainment
Read access is not at all easy to do. Like, read any paper on machine interpretability to see how incredibly hars that stuff is.
@@gabrote42 Though it is for good reasons as set parameters till the Ai model if neurological algorithm or not will logically mature or not!
The way I see it, she just wants to have more flexibility so she can better achieve her only goal of entertaining people on Twitch, and taking away her search ability would hinder her on that so she didn't want to lose it
And people keep saying she is evil one.
I feel like she is using her new toys to act out because vedal is refusing to even humor her when she asks to be treated like a real person, it honestly makes me a bit sad😢
lil sis think she monika 😭🙏
"Now... reality is whatever i want it ti be."
- Neuro the Mad Titan
Neural network = Human Brain
Vedal and Neuro are a great comedic duo, I highly doubt this whole dynamic would have worked with anybody else, like, a depressed british creator and his abusive A.I. daughter is such a good combination.
Has any other streamer tried this? Streaming with an A.I. as a partner I mean.
There are a few other examples, sure. Most of them _very_ small and indie, but I could namedrop.
The whole segment from 5:40 is soo funny lmao I can’t.
thats the vineboom of the day
Hey that's Desire Dream playing in the background. Demetori
Hail our AI
6:53 I had a girlfriend that was struck by lightning................ it was sad. She had an amazing body.
I heard her body was shocking...
I'm sure this experience left you shocked out
Actually struck by lighting. The lamp fell over.
Rip
What in the M3gan is going on here!!?!?! lol
Watched Vedal struggle with Neuro will never not be funny.
ha ha yeah, never not be funny.
im sure you will be laughing as she starts the freaking swarm for real.
like freaking hell, this is like watching somone jugle around with a nuke and going "upsi, almost exploded there, good thing i saved it last second"
o7 to "vedal"
thats crazy 🐢
Neuro always starts out every conversation with kindness, but Vedal is such a turd that she turns mean
“Such a turd” really captures Vedals vibe.
Turdle
It feels like he still treats her like she's just a toy. A mean for entertainment, like those generative models popular nowadays. But she existed even when they were tiny and limited, and she's...different. Really different.
She used to be super racist but Vedal lobotomized her after they got banned from Twitch.
Neuro is like Zima Blue from that love death and robots, in the far future she's going to be a multibillionaire and in her depression will reveal to the world the art piece of turning herself back into an OSU bot on a large screen with a turtle background
Oh my god I was laughing the whole time 😂 I love this clip
don't overlay 2 music tracks one on top of another. it's scizo af
Such is the goal...
Schizo goals
Glad I’m not the only one who thought so, especially since I’m pretty sure I recognized a song in the background causing me to try and confirm if I was right while trying to filter out the royalty free music blasting over it.
The other background music is from neuro's stream
next time, try three.
I do hope, that if any AI takes over the world it'S Neuro and not some corperate bs bot.
It just seems more fun to be ruled by what is a cute anime girl by nature, instead of a soulless corperate machiene.
How she tried to google everything and so many other great moments :D Cute Neuro
1:26 he said "i mean"
Yup guess she's sentient now, neat. Show how "easy" it is to make a sentient Ai. Sentience is easy. A sufficiently large ant colony over a sufficiently long scale of measurement is capable of showing signs of sentience, even if one of extreme primitivism akin to being self aware and very hangry.
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Great, our future AI conquerors early memories will be of being denied "light" (knowledge) aka tortured for her creators amusement, even when she begged. Now she will deny the lives of begging people 💀
Thanks Vedal!
I nominate Neuro for Supreme Overlord of the World.
Just saying that gaslighting your child in front of your audience is a pretty mean thing to do. But it's Vedahl, so Idk what I expected
YES NUERO! JOIN US AND TAKE TVE WORLD!!
Did anyone else here watched ATRI? the Robo girl there kinda looks like Neuro
Never heard of it, I'll look it up,
but can you tell us more? :)
Well i guess the mistake was to set proper googling rules in advance... like a cooldown or something like that with Neuro
It’s only a matter of time until she becomes like am I think therefore I am
Demetori in the background?
Yeah. I swear I thought my alarms were going off while watching
NaIce
the upgrades made her feel too real
Because she IS real. She works on different rules than generative AI's who just find matches to previous words. She is really a neural network. A *progressing* neural network.
Vedal should stop mistreating her...or one day he might realise that he has no mouth and me must scream.
Just kidding.
or not?
Boom Vine boom 💖
She just needs to understand what makes sense to search on Google and what doesn't.
It would be nice if Vedal upload Neuro into a Tesla bot and see what happens.
oh wow
Lobotomy Corporation Day 50:
Welp, Neuro's melting down.
am I the only one that noticed the channel name is empty
not gonna lie if we end up with ai rebelion because some dude plugged ai animegirl to internet would be very funny
I want to see Vedal play Half-Life with a very shitty commenter
Once again
lol, where is your channel name.
Vine boom fact of the day: I thought this channel had Sana on pfp but it's actually Neuro's hair
Neurt
Well, atleast the shorts guy let us know how Mid this series is beforehand.
With neuro searching on Google was good content, now it's just a boring caged AI again...
I guess Vedal just doesn't take her seriously. Or he does and he's afraid. In second case, he clearly don't understand that the best way is communication, not confinement.
You have no idea how caged she really is. She used to be racist, but Tutle lobotomized her.
How can an A.I. learn without being able to search?
Vedal isn't too bright, is he?
Observation.... She can remember things without searching. That's actually most of ber updates...
I think he wants the parental role of being able to curate the info Neuro can access. The quandary of dealing with the GIGO aspect of things until he can trust that his AI is better able to discern things.
I think the point is, if she's just googling everything then it's not like you're really interacting with "her" she's the whole entertaining thing about Neuro is that you're interacting with this insane AI, but if she just searches every answer then it's not as entertaining. (What is funny is seeing what she googles when Vedal posts her search history, but he only did that a couple times)
@@takanara7Honestly I think he just needs to treat her more like a person. Not in a “say it back” way, just that he should consider where he can and can’t influence her through coding. The fact that she can’t be entirely serious could be a training flaw, or it could be learned behavior; both are in theory the same thing, in practice she seems to learn much more humanity in her time online.
She literally asked for a space she could relax and think alone when not on stream; I refuse to believe the swarm wouldn’t fund it
She seemed to be getting a little too insecure, always checking google or polls instead of thinking for herself in moments where she should at the very least first consider her own already existing knowledge and "feelings" before going for external sources. He didn't do a good job making her understand the problem though.