Can China's AI Technology Compete With the US?

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  • China's tech giants report earnings this week, with investors closely watching for progress on AI development. IN. Capital Founding Partner Jen Zhu Scott and Sinovation Ventures Chairman & CEO Kai-fu Lee discuss China's AI industry on "Bloomberg: The China Show."
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  • @thedlkr
    @thedlkr 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +76

    More competition is always a good thing for consumers.

    • @tustak
      @tustak 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Just that eventually consumers becomes soldiers

    • @Booz2020
      @Booz2020 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Slava 🇹🇼

    • @MikeB-ev4fh
      @MikeB-ev4fh 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      You're thinking of democratic countries

    • @pussiestroker
      @pussiestroker 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @thedlkr ai competition ultimately is the exception to that rule.

    • @albertcadgame8314
      @albertcadgame8314 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ya ? like right now the US is imposing huge tariffs on Chinese products. How good is that for the US people ???

  • @passby8070
    @passby8070 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +137

    US has been trying hard to handicap China with so many rounds of sanctions to stop China from moving forward. I think it has created a short term road block for China. But over the longer term, it is actually helping China become more competitive as it created a huge gap for Chinese companies to fill. This will also resulted in alot more experts in the area. When we talk about AI, we often think of Chips and LLMs, but China has doing some amazing work with applying AI to smart machines that we consumers wants to buy. China has been in the forefront in Consumer robotics, smart drones, 3d printing and EVs were execution, integration and mass production are way more important than 7nm vs 3nm in niche machines.

    • @merrick6484
      @merrick6484 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      China might be one step behind US in terms of AI technology, but they are 100 steps ahead in terms of commercialised their products and application, with existing domestic market.
      China will soon catch up, thats for sure.

    • @MD97531
      @MD97531 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You little CCP bots life in a dream world. Meanwhile reality is catching up with China and the growth story is over.

    • @MD97531
      @MD97531 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      If the future of the world were to be won with propaganda and bots online then China would surely prosper. Luckily that’s not the case and China is failing in real time for all to witness

    • @MD97531
      @MD97531 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      China is miles behind and will never catch up. The US created and is leading and will shape the new AI technological revolution, again.

    • @danielb7253
      @danielb7253 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Chines always so nationalistic with hatred against the world. A country that was ruled by peasants until recently. But Xi has honory degrees. Hmm? So many ccp members chosen are born abroad.

  • @pbworld7858
    @pbworld7858 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +264

    It will be very difficult to fight American propaganda. USA does the best propaganda.

    • @TeeHee-vo1bn
      @TeeHee-vo1bn 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You mean better than CCP propaganda?

    • @brianliew5901
      @brianliew5901 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Propaganda cannot reduce the debt any more than earning profits. They're not only lying others but also lying to themselves. The real problem is they're now believing in their own lies. 😢😢😢😂

    • @misterbig9025.
      @misterbig9025. 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

      Says chinese propagandist

    • @Peter-ox8lj
      @Peter-ox8lj 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +32

      @@misterbig9025. See USA bot always gets last laugh

    • @brianliew5901
      @brianliew5901 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      Where's my comment, YT? Too ashamed to allow others to learn the truth?

  • @thermalstoragesystemfromtr9513
    @thermalstoragesystemfromtr9513 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +88

    It's easy to tell. If Chinese AI companies can not compete, US wouldn't ban chips for AI.

    • @tluangasailo3663
      @tluangasailo3663 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      well US primarily does to prevent China military possessing the chips, not the chinese enterprise

    • @jhyang731
      @jhyang731 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      it has happened never before, ever after, until USA stop,it will be stopped !

    • @emingoh3586
      @emingoh3586 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

      @@tluangasailo3663 do you believe in this? lol

    • @user-px8ct5ik2q
      @user-px8ct5ik2q 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      @@tluangasailo3663 你觉得中国军方会使用美国的晶片吗?以为中国那么天真吗 中国难道不怕美国的芯片有后门 这么愚蠢的话都能够说出来

    • @Chessmapling
      @Chessmapling 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      That's a matter of hardware vs software. In software, no doubt Chinese AI companies can develop models just as well as American. But the hardware to train those models quickly is in the hands of the US. Now China has already surprised with their Huawei phone so I don't think they're that far behind.

  • @lionvictor9944
    @lionvictor9944 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +28

    Not about China competing or catching up with anyone. Its about fulfilling chinas and global needs.

    • @berniv7375
      @berniv7375 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      China, USA, and all the other countries need to stop using other animals in experiments and toxicity testing. It is a total waste of life and resources. We have the technology to totally transform science and in the process save ourselves. It is incredible that we are advancing in so many ways but regressing where it really matters. Our collective survival.🌱

    • @user-mm3eu4un6b
      @user-mm3eu4un6b 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      China can't even feed their people China will be like another north Korea.

  • @WellSalt-Studio
    @WellSalt-Studio 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +74

    49 % of the AI graduates are in China, 40% of AI graduates in the US are Chinese.
    Country of origin of AI researchers in Globally, actual numbers: China 47%, US 18%, Europe 12%, India 5%. Country of origin of AI researchers in the US, actual numbers: China 38%, US 37%, Europe 6%, India 7%, Canada 2% and others 10%. Amount the top 2% AI expert in USA , 60% are Chinese.
    Chinese STEM grads 10x more than US, or 5x of US and Europe. Chinese engineer dividend has just begun.
    Compared with the computer cluster composed of NVIDIA B200, the computer cluster composed of Huawei Ascend 920 saves more electricity at the same computility, and it is more computility than NVIDIA at the same power consumption. Obviously, the price-performance ratio of Ascend 920 is higher and the actual calculation cost is lower.
    Compete with the Chinese in terms of intelligence and diligence? America will definitely lose!

    • @MD97531
      @MD97531 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      Doesn’t matter how many millions of AI graduates you can roll off the factory line when the top AI talent lives and works in the US and 60% of top AI institutions are in America. The mass of graduates is just a commodity and will be replaced by Indians and others over time.

    • @david50665
      @david50665 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      ​@@MD97531That is just result of brain drain which will be reversing soon

    • @david50665
      @david50665 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@MD97531this is just result of years of brain drain which will soon be reversing

    • @MD97531
      @MD97531 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@david50665 that’s just hopes and dreams my friend.

    • @dr.magnanimous8973
      @dr.magnanimous8973 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      @@MD97531 You act like there is no top AI institutions in China. There are not only companies and institutions in China, there are also an abunance of universities and government sponsored organization in China to advance AI. Aside from programing, China has the edge on big data on population and society behavior, and is more creative on the AI application. If India or any countries can replace China to achieve the same effectiveness, and not just rhetorics, India/Japan/Korea/Canada/Australia... the US would have already shipped all of its low end high end research and manfacturing work to all of America's allies. But the fact is these countries including US cannot compete with China now or definitely in the future.

  • @truthful3777
    @truthful3777 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +107

    One thing China is not good at... Story Telling.

    • @brianliew5901
      @brianliew5901 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      Story telling is strictly a Western patent and one will have to pay royalty to engage in it. 🤑🤑🤑🤑

    • @WalkOverHotCoal
      @WalkOverHotCoal 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      I agree. But it is no good just to tell a good story, you also need to actually deliver what you promised. Take the space mission as an example. When Bill Nelson of NASA doing song and dance in front of the Artemis rocket, he told people that it is the biggest rocket ever. Then on the launch day, as it was counting down, it leaked. They checked it fr leaks, patched it up, and set up for a new launch date. Then it leaked again ! They crawled all over it looking for leaks. It was after quite a delay, it finally took off.
      When it comes to propaganda, the US has plenty. In the White House, they have John Kirby, Matthew Miller, Karin Jean Pierre, who cover for Joe Biden who is unsure of where he was half the time.

    • @noyanali6855
      @noyanali6855 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      The one US telling about Ukraine?

    • @nmew6926
      @nmew6926 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Propaganda is the only thing that China is still way behind the West. To be honest, China struggle to prove the truth. For example, the 2 Canadian Michaels accused of spying. China can hardly convince the world this truth until.. one of the 2 Michaels file a lawsuit against the other Michael for dragging him in spying when he is not supposed and paid for.
      Western Propaganda are experts to transform lies into truths. If they can fool the world that Americans landed on the moon, then anything else is a piece of cake

    • @padtag1742
      @padtag1742 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Ban TikTok and there will be only one storyteller

  • @tompell3032
    @tompell3032 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +44

    Can they? Are you kidding me? They have the most engineering talents in the world. They graduate more engineers each year. We don't need these so called "experts" to tell us the obvious answer to that.

    • @zhijingchen4563
      @zhijingchen4563 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Lee Kaifu was VP of Apple, VP of Microsoft China, and was famous among Chinese internet circle. His opinion definitely worth consideration.

    • @WellSalt-Studio
      @WellSalt-Studio 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Chinese STEM grads 10x more than US, or 5x of US and Europe. Chinese engineer dividend has just begun.

    • @dee-vee
      @dee-vee 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      The supremacist naysayers will tell you that a single US engineer is better than 1000 Chinese engineers. 🤣

    • @yangli7279
      @yangli7279 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      如果你来中国,你就会知道中国的AI有多糟糕,所有人都在使用chatgpt 而非中国人自己的AI模型。请不要用你以为中国很厉害的眼光来看待中国。

    • @isaacnewtonchauke5444
      @isaacnewtonchauke5444 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      😂😂😂 bro ​@@dee-vee

  • @kittydukakis
    @kittydukakis 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    This guy started his company one year ago; that was enough time to debut a LLM. In most countries, even building an office building takes longer than that.

  • @steventee984
    @steventee984 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    The question should be..... Can US AI technology compete with China ?

    • @tluangasailo3663
      @tluangasailo3663 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      not sure about that, but US seems to always invents things before china

    • @MrBomuch
      @MrBomuch 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Well China has to wait to steal it.. So they will be behind...steal faster China

    • @The.Harsh.Truths
      @The.Harsh.Truths 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Sure 50 cent. China used to say they’re leading the AI race during the Trump term, and now they’re saying they’ll catch up quickly. The trend is that they’re falling further and further behind.
      China missed their chance to overtake the USA. They had a narrow window before their population started shrinking. Now they’ll go the way of Japan and stagnate for decades even without a plaza accord.

  • @user-ug1eo4xb7z
    @user-ug1eo4xb7z 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Although the 'Large Language Model' (LLM) is the currently the most popular approach to A.I, there are other methods. In my opinion, Numenta's 'Thousand Brains Theory' (TBT) aims to mimic human brains, has produced the 'Platform for Intelligent Computing' (NuPIC). A model that is efficient, scalable and works in combination with LLM, but doesn't require GPUs.

  • @Chryeon
    @Chryeon 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +60

    The Chinese never give up 🚀🚀

    • @codrinvechiu2832
      @codrinvechiu2832 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Because americans made public the ai thing that means they're lightyears away from everyone

    • @MD97531
      @MD97531 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      America is way ahead on AI

    • @SoYappy
      @SoYappy 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      China will give up as soon as there is none in opensource. As soon as a new innovation is published China would declare they just invented it.

    • @MD97531
      @MD97531 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      China gave up having children. That’s how much they believe in the future

    • @Chryeon
      @Chryeon 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@MD97531 yess it does have advantage of being the first eventually China always catching up, and they will make an even cheaper hardware and advance in software too...

  • @MasterLeong888
    @MasterLeong888 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    very well said thank you!

  • @yojimbo3681
    @yojimbo3681 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I still remember AI used to be called Machine Learning (ML) just 5-6 years ago. How fast the industry pivots.

  • @easymi9964
    @easymi9964 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    China: a strong gov supports Companies. US: Companies supports a weak gov.

    • @MD97531
      @MD97531 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      China: a government is running China into extinction and revolution
      US: a government is driving innovation and prosperity

    • @Booz2020
      @Booz2020 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      🇺🇲: a Greedy passion Supports Strong Capitalism 🤯

  • @nz1200
    @nz1200 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    Why not?
    In fact a lot of US technologies were the results of Chinese scientists and researchers.

  • @QuocBinh-us7lb
    @QuocBinh-us7lb 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    The U.S. thinks 'Competition' is another word for 'War'.

  • @minervasheryl4748
    @minervasheryl4748 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +97

    Give it a rest. The US cannot even compete with Tik Tok's algorithm. Forget AI.

    • @brianliew5901
      @brianliew5901 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The US is working its butts off to create DickCock.

    • @bladestarX
      @bladestarX 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You don’t know or understand AI. Did you consider various factors such as semiconductors, innovation and more important than anything trust? The biggest roadblock for AI is adoption due to security concerns. No one trust China when it comes to AI. So, the U.S. is not only well positioned to compete but is leading.

    • @McLovin16x29
      @McLovin16x29 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      nice joke

    • @LanNguyen-vd4zt
      @LanNguyen-vd4zt 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      A copy of vines

    • @MD97531
      @MD97531 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      China can’t compete with Google, Meta etc 😂

  • @luihinwai1
    @luihinwai1 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think what they are saying is that the current dollar value generated by very large LLM is smaller than the dollar cost of compute to those model. Hence there may be an economical optimal model size that is already smaller than the current size of state of the art models.

  • @BrandyHeng007
    @BrandyHeng007 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +45

    China never run away from level field competitions.

    • @bolajiayoola5179
      @bolajiayoola5179 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      They always remove level playing field and they talk about competition.

    • @noneone3310
      @noneone3310 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      well, even the playing field are rigged against china, like what the US and the west has been so desperately trying to do, china still can compete, and most likely will win. in fact the more hostile pressure put on them, the more they perform. thanks to the US's anti china attitude, they are making china great again, or shall we say "even more great"😂

    • @phillip76
      @phillip76 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@bolajiayoola5179
      No, China is better as a competitor and innovator. U.S. is all about being unfair. Forcing countries to use the dollar, starting wars, and when it can't win commercially, sanction and ban.

  • @brianliew5901
    @brianliew5901 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +51

    This is not an exaggeration. Regarding the tech war between China and the US, it's not hard to see China will win this one fairly easily despite one hand being tied behind its back.

    • @passby8070
      @passby8070 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      This is a classic case of "what does not kill you will make you stronger" There's a huge boom in the semiconductor and smart machine space. It is creating possibilities and synergies that wouldn't have if wasn't for the sanctions.

    • @danielb7253
      @danielb7253 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      give me some facts please. How will china defeat the WEST in AI??? They kill critical thinking in their education system. they need foreigners to help them, not Chinese born peeps.

    • @MD97531
      @MD97531 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Outstanding propaganda

    • @darshuetube
      @darshuetube 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      If they're so advanced in tech, the idea of being sanctioned is crazy. Only the more advanced can do the sanctioning.

    • @MD97531
      @MD97531 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@darshuetube hahaha I know right, it’s ludicrous. Like people with sticks and stones sanctioning their neighbors with guns and steel.

  • @acyaghogho
    @acyaghogho 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Very fine discourse👍

  • @revilo8oliver
    @revilo8oliver 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Do not forget! Kaifu Lee is the inventor of Apple Siri

  • @kmich7660
    @kmich7660 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +30

    To be frank, USA may soon be not the one to beat, China may find it has to beat itself. 😊

    • @normanchan2001
      @normanchan2001 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I don't know. China has 5000 years of continuous history, the problems on the horizon seems to be less scary than in the past.

  • @KBar591
    @KBar591 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Disagree with the premise that smaller and localized models would suffice. Yes, they will solve a segment of problems but not give full range of capabilities and potential benefits. Obviously, China would count on opensource since its free and easily ported to bespoke segments.

    • @luihinwai1
      @luihinwai1 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I think what they are saying is that the current dollar value generated by very large LLM is smaller than the dollar cost of compute to those model. Hence there maybe an economical optimal model size that may already be smaller than the current state of the art models.

    • @KBar591
      @KBar591 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@luihinwai1 Yes, and my point is smaller models would solve targeted problems, but that approach would not be sufficient.

  • @justindressler5992
    @justindressler5992 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Just look at Groq a smallish company built a LLM inference engine faster than any NVidia hardware. It is because the hardware is dedicated to the task. I think in five years PCI-E NPU's will be common place in PC's and will be installed side by side with the GPU. NVidia has a short window were it can capitalize on this, but they will still dominate generic compute tasks. In the long run i expect far more exotic solutions to come in the form on analog computers which store the weights and activations directly in the cells of the circults. This will mean instantaneous memory access and these new exotic chips will be nothing like what we have now. Approximation is a analog issue not digital.

  • @tonfie
    @tonfie 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    How do you spell the name of the Chinese GPT? Do they have a demo website? Can it answer questions about the government?

    • @jacksmith-mu3ee
      @jacksmith-mu3ee 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Can usa ai locate palestine

  • @jhockey11liu91
    @jhockey11liu91 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Jen is on the money

  • @mikey1836
    @mikey1836 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    She’s wrong. You use large inefficient AI to help you create the smaller more efficient ones.

  • @jaradshaw4723
    @jaradshaw4723 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Nuclear fission brought about Nuclear winter.... ai brought about complete electronic shipper and banking collapse

  • @rudyr4163
    @rudyr4163 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Sensored AI an AI?

  • @johnwhoo6194
    @johnwhoo6194 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    more efficiency, better algorism design, willing be better than more and more hardware, more and more hardware will have a dead end.

  • @yiuhhsinggou3666
    @yiuhhsinggou3666 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Most of ai related models developed by us re open sourced…. CN doesn’t have catchup, they just take them!

  • @benedictbayi6686
    @benedictbayi6686 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    it's a question of when and probably will be triple...China is big and fast

  • @lesterchester8097
    @lesterchester8097 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Kai-fu Lee remarks re smaller models and parameters would be "sufficient" are rather strange. Guess China is on a niche migration path.

    • @willv88
      @willv88 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Kai-fu Lee may have known a bit about China a decade ago, but he's not the expert that these folks should be talking to...

  • @eyeonchina2023
    @eyeonchina2023 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I can understand the use case for a smaller model but what she's saying amounts to arguing large companies should shift billions of capital investment into open source, which is never going to happen (although I can see why China would love that) . Investors aren't going to give ten billion to see that given away. They want roi. That's why that startup guy spoke up and said there's a need for larger models.

  • @ScotchOnyx
    @ScotchOnyx 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Didn't the Chinese just invented a new clear disc with storage space of like a 1000TB?

  • @jackie-sd6lc
    @jackie-sd6lc 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Nvidia's Blackwell is the beginning of terminator

  • @mujur9101
    @mujur9101 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Amputates your competitors and self declaring yourself as a winner is something to be proud of. 😂😅🤭🤫

  • @sihksahmir5635
    @sihksahmir5635 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    US's IA could well solve the American debt problem right?

  • @hekeng
    @hekeng 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yes, of course.

  • @LL-rm8xt
    @LL-rm8xt 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    China is showing how REAL competition is pushing innovation and marking advancements iterate more quickly.... EV's is a good example...

  • @gst8506
    @gst8506 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Just be humble, everybody will go far ahead. If not,.. good luck ..

  • @lilingsun966
    @lilingsun966 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    China's entry into any industry always has a significant impact on that specified industry. We've seen this pattern in various sectors like EVs, solar panels, memory chips, lithium batteries, and more. Even the US tries to deliberately suppress China in AI, before long that China's involvement in the AI industry will also lead to substantial changes.

    • @Anonymous------
      @Anonymous------ วันที่ผ่านมา

      Well said. Chinese mind works better when pressured.

  • @tuapuikia
    @tuapuikia 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Are they Chinese or American in the news?

  • @yongchen8204
    @yongchen8204 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    china cant compete wiith USA in AI, but china will control its own AI industry for its 1.4 billions people market just like it does with its own internet services and mobile network services. and that is a huge market outside from US!

    • @Booz2020
      @Booz2020 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Slava TSMC 🇹🇼

    • @directxxxx71
      @directxxxx71 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@Booz2020 US Slave 🇹🇼

  • @PavelSumik
    @PavelSumik 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I really liked this discussion, people were genuinely interested in other people's opinions, about new technologies, they didn't play games, they spoke naturally, no affectation, they got to the point, a decent factual discussion with friendly people, I wish there were more videos like this

  • @whitemoon5752
    @whitemoon5752 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    Baidu’s mobile AI is excellent I use it every day. But you need to have a very good prompt skills to ask the question. Once you have mastered the skills it is great! Even for HR, Marketing, management, also how the property market for a particular home in a particular neighborhood would look like in next 3 years. Amazing!

    • @misterbig9025.
      @misterbig9025. 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      China bot

    • @adamsaciid4919
      @adamsaciid4919 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@misterbig9025. cia bot

    • @whitemoon5752
      @whitemoon5752 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@misterbig9025. how do you know?

    • @misterbig9025.
      @misterbig9025. 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@whitemoon5752 it sounds like a bot comments

    • @brianliew5901
      @brianliew5901 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@misterbig9025. But you sounds like a nut.

  • @cool.politics
    @cool.politics 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The question is whether Chinese generative AI development is sustainable under severe speech censorship.

  • @RoyFJ65
    @RoyFJ65 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thats why US is busy banning chips in sense of fair competition. Anyone who reads hackerank and sees the listing of countries top in programing knows the truth.

  • @mizanrahman5194
    @mizanrahman5194 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Can US's AI tech survive Chinese onslaught? Foot note: EV is waiting on the border.

  • @harry8201
    @harry8201 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    US works in conjunction with all of EU uk and Canada and Australia to build its Ecosystem each leveraging their skills. Why hasn’t China leveraged itself through the talent from other countries like Russia and Singapore and Brazil etc.

    • @jaisriram295
      @jaisriram295 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Because no one wants to work with a communist dictatorship whose sole goal is to dominate the world with evil intent

    • @phillip76
      @phillip76 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I think it is. No countries is an island. Even tho usa want to isolate itself.

    • @yaoliang1580
      @yaoliang1580 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      China don't have so many puppets

  • @dragonred3576
    @dragonred3576 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    我擦,李开复居然还活着。

    • @user-rk9xh8pm6w
      @user-rk9xh8pm6w 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      我一看到也一愣,他得了癌症,居然气色那么好。
      不过好像最近他的创新工坊没有以前那么火了。

  • @mikey1836
    @mikey1836 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    No to Chinese AI. We are in an AI arms race.

  • @franzMong
    @franzMong 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It is very interesting that we are talking about the AI competition. However, it is also interesting to note that all the participants in the video are all CHINESE LOOKING! What does it tell ???

  • @dr.zschanel3671
    @dr.zschanel3671 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I wonder if all those language models can help TH-cam or Instagram to beat tiktok

  • @WW-qf2fm
    @WW-qf2fm 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    And even the banks are too ignorant to know that AI is not safe. I wouldn't put my voice to anything concerning my bank accounts etc

  • @bret3977
    @bret3977 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I can see the disappointment of the bananas.

  • @MRhn-kw6om
    @MRhn-kw6om 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If China's AI can compete with the F16's AI

  • @troublemakersization
    @troublemakersization 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Because Elon open sourced the model.

  • @dailylifetips2767
    @dailylifetips2767 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    China beats US at connecting AI tech to consumers, and that’s the most important!!

  • @procrastinateXrok
    @procrastinateXrok 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think China has the long game indeed

  • @rainkloud
    @rainkloud 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    If you were taking a drink every time they said Kai Fu then congratulations! You now have cirrhosis!

  • @albertcadgame8314
    @albertcadgame8314 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What is the point of making AI being able to chat but it don't understand what the text printed on screen means ?
    Chat GPT, I can safely say the AI don't actually knew the meaning of the texts it printed out. But we human knew what our thoughts or chatting means when human replies on the questions.

    • @Anonymous------
      @Anonymous------ วันที่ผ่านมา

      You have no idea of what AI is, it's not just a search for information. Things like ChatGPT is only a small thing AI can do, it does a lot more than that.

  • @ongbookok9320
    @ongbookok9320 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Mention of China, Americans got nervous and lost its composure. Don’t worry too much the Chinese will catch up. American’s technology in AI is still very far ahead. The harder sanction applied to the Chinese, the faster the Chinese will narrow the gap.
    So it is for the Americans to think very hard what should be the right approach to handle the Chinese

  • @andrewlin6136
    @andrewlin6136 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Can anyone stop, anyone from ageing ?

  • @normanchan2001
    @normanchan2001 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It is my understanding AI is all about data and China dwarfs the US in data.

  • @christopersambeli6566
    @christopersambeli6566 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    china is becoming self sufficient

  • @Marcus-up5wk
    @Marcus-up5wk 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    China will never be able to compete against the best minds and new talent expecting stock options in their future hard work and break throughs.. That’s not possible in china..Also second place is first last position in this race..

    • @Anonymous------
      @Anonymous------ วันที่ผ่านมา

      Racist.

    • @Marcus-up5wk
      @Marcus-up5wk 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@Anonymous------ REALIST is more the term i would use..I have offices and staff in China and a business wholly depend on them.. i love my staff but the facts above don't change..Humans who dont have a real stake in the game won't commit or take risks... Silicone valley is miles ahead of China with AI basically because the brightest are poached or go there willingly, and i cant see that changing anytime soon...You can't copy innovation..

  • @paullo8268
    @paullo8268 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Kai Fu Lee is already out of fashion.

  • @pkrvp
    @pkrvp 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    It’s always easier to copy, I guess. Just wait for the US to invent the next big thing and then copy paste 😂

  • @user-of5cp1kb4f
    @user-of5cp1kb4f 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Is this really a question. Why do people think China is some
    Kind of 3rd world country. Of course the can compete.

  • @gandhikumar2956
    @gandhikumar2956 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Don't forget the best CEOs come from India

    • @Booz2020
      @Booz2020 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Don't forget the HOTtest actresses come from Venezuela and Colombia 👀
      Don't forget the most reliable car brands come from Japan 🗾
      Don't forget the Largest Electric Vendors come from South Korea.

    • @jaycetse2956
      @jaycetse2956 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah, then they outsourcing jobs to India, like Microsoft and Google now

  • @ivantan4537
    @ivantan4537 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Electric power will be a bottleneck for USA in the coming years.

  • @Lee-xv7ih
    @Lee-xv7ih 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    No way China can compete with USA in Al when China can even compete with Biden's flops!

  • @siewkonsum7291
    @siewkonsum7291 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Germany, France and Poland don't get involved! 😊

  • @eyeonchina2023
    @eyeonchina2023 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hmm, so how do you think his company caugght up and erased an 8 year experience and R&D deficit in *one year*? 🤔

    • @DW-op7ly
      @DW-op7ly 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Big talking Americans like you with a gei Sha girl fe tish
      Need to change your name
      There is now 27 books out there on what the Chinese invented that says
      we copied or stole from them
      👇
      Why was China erased from Western memory
      The remarkable history of Chinese invention - Why was China erased from Western memory?
      Article by 龙信明
      Introduction
      Joseph Needham was an English medical doctor and biologist, teaching in England in the 1930s. By an accident of fate he acquired some Chinese students, and was intrigued to hear their claims of so many medical and scientific discoveries having originated in China, rather than in the West.
      Needham became fully fluent in Chinese, and eventually moved to China in 1942 to investigate these claims and to research the entire history of Chinese invention. That work led to an astonishing voyage of historical discovery.
      Needham originally planned to write a book cataloguing Chinese inventions, but his first volume barely scratched the surface of his subject. He slowly gatherred many of his students into this enterprise, and they eventually wrote a collection of 26 books, to catalog the history of Chinese discovery.
      Myth and Misrepresentation
      It leaves one speechless to learn the vast extent of things invented by the Chinese many hundreds of years, and often several millennia, before they appeared in the West.
      MySingaporeBlogSpot

    • @DW-op7ly
      @DW-op7ly 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Plus big taking American does not know the history of his own Country
      👇
      IP Theft Is What Once Helped Make America Great
      That was certainly the case for the United States. The practice of grabbing intellectual property was a staple of U.S. economic strategy since the outset of the nation’s founding.
      The play Hamilton has brought new and deserved respect to the first secretary of the treasury. But his many economic achievements should not blind us to the fact that theft of intellectual property was a linchpin of his manufacturing strategy.
      RealClearMarkets

  • @calvinblue894
    @calvinblue894 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    China just break through AI Blackbox for fighter jets.. Outpaced USA

  • @Questington
    @Questington 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yvonne Man = Iron Man?

  • @user-hb9fp4vs2f
    @user-hb9fp4vs2f 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Chinas advance in EV and their batteries are due to Tesla. They were going nowhere fast despite billions of govt. Subsidies for years and years. With 4 times the amount of educated people in China, we expect more, but there is practically no progress and zero innovations. China is very good at applying american tech for their market. Without american, Japanese and European camera tech, their smart phone market is pretty stuck in 2018.

  • @XYang2023
    @XYang2023 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    She is missing the point. It is a race to AGI rather than short term financial return.

    • @skydragon23101979
      @skydragon23101979 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      AGI unlikely to happen so soon and based on her evaluation the way the LLMs are going AGI’s would need a power source the size of the SuN or close to support AGI. The direction doesn’t look correct for AGI

    • @XYang2023
      @XYang2023 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@skydragon23101979 The number of parameters is approaching to the number of synapses in a human brain. You can estimate that based on Moore's Law. The training phase requires a lot of energy but not really the case for the inferencing phase. In addition, there are low power alternatives to GPUs.

  • @Mr.J.xiansheng
    @Mr.J.xiansheng 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    China's AI capabilities indeed do not match those of the United States, but it's important to recognize that currently, only these two countries can be considered serious competitors in this field.

  • @user-qd8yg1fp7i
    @user-qd8yg1fp7i 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    lel us ain't ready for wats coming.

  • @ska5568
    @ska5568 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    *China should continue to cultivate overcapacity and export to all countries around the world. Deprive the Western manufacturers if global market, they should be left only with their own markets. THE WEST SHOULD NOT EARN FOREIGN EXCHANGE!!* 🎉🎉🎉

  • @alifareh1
    @alifareh1 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Imagine if all 3 anchors are Chinese? Wouldn’t you feel annoyed if another country is bullying your country even though they could be American.

    • @hardheadjarhead
      @hardheadjarhead 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Two of them have western last names. One is a mixed race individual, the other clearly married into her name. The fact that they are of Chinese heritage doesn’t mean that they are prejudiced one way or the other. Kai Fu Lee seems so, however.

  • @jy3ster
    @jy3ster 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    China already has more advanced ai tech than USA… not even sure why you’re asking the question

    • @MD97531
      @MD97531 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hahaha nowhere near as advanced.

    • @johnc1873
      @johnc1873 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@MD97531way better. Without Chinese engineers in US, US would have nothing to do

    • @MD97531
      @MD97531 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@johnc1873 nah mostly Indian engineers are becoming more important than Chinese ones. China has lost its way before making it out of middle income status. Hope they can prevent a hard landing as their population halves and they fade into the background this century.

    • @johnc1873
      @johnc1873 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@MD97531 😂😂 yeah bro. That’s why Chinas economy is 14 trillion larger by GDP than India . Because Indians are soooooo much better than Chinese and have lost they’re way 😂😂😂

    • @DW-op7ly
      @DW-op7ly 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@MD97531
      ​​⁠
      There is now a 27 book series on Chinese inventions that says we copied or stole from them
      These days the Chinese lead in 37 of 44 critical technologies of the future
      The narrow minded view?
      Is to concentrate on the 7 technologies that China does not lead in….
      Then arguing they can’t innovate
      👇
      Why was China erased from Western memory
      The remarkable history of Chinese invention - Why was China erased from Western memory?
      Article by 龙信明
      Introduction
      Joseph Needham was an English medical doctor and biologist, teaching in England in the 1930s. By an accident of fate he acquired some Chinese students, and was intrigued to hear their claims of so many medical and scientific discoveries having originated in China, rather than in the West.
      Needham became fully fluent in Chinese, and eventually moved to China in 1942 to investigate these claims and to research the entire history of Chinese invention. That work led to an astonishing voyage of historical discovery.
      Needham originally planned to write a book cataloguing Chinese inventions, but his first volume barely scratched the surface of his subject. He slowly gatherred many of his students into this enterprise, and they eventually wrote a collection of 26 books, to catalog the history of Chinese discovery.
      Myth and Misrepresentation
      It leaves one speechless to learn the vast extent of things invented by the Chinese many hundreds of years, and often several millennia, before they appeared in the West.
      MySingaporeBlogSpot

  • @user-mm3eu4un6b
    @user-mm3eu4un6b 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Chinas ai program is lost without a net t that got destroyed by tictok

  • @banavathlaxmi230
    @banavathlaxmi230 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Final winner is.....India❤❤❤

    • @jacksmith-mu3ee
      @jacksmith-mu3ee 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      India best achievements so far
      India's Hunger index
      2013: 63rd rank
      2022: 107th rank
      India's Happiness index.
      2013: 111th rank
      2022: 136th rank
      India's press freedom rank
      2013:79th
      2022: 150the the fourth pillar of worlds largest
      democracy is no more
      India's unemployment rate
      2013:4.9%
      2023:7.5%
      Unemployment rate never increase in growing
      economy.. india is growing only on paper and by
      loan
      India's Debt
      before 2014: ₹55 lakh crore
      2023: ₹155 lakh crore
      India's GDP from 2004 to 2014:
      $709 billion to 2.04 trilion (almost triple)
      India's GDP from 2014to 2024:
      $2.04 trillion to 3.6 trilion (expected)...not even
      double

  • @udhelhc
    @udhelhc 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I hope China will beat the US on AI. US is doing everything it can slow down these developments, but the dragon is unleashed. Go China!

    • @alsaderi
      @alsaderi 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      💯👏🤩💙🦾🤖🧠. Not to mention EU🤡🐒.

  • @valdecigomes8519
    @valdecigomes8519 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    USA, the best in propaganda, China the best in job.

  • @HanS662
    @HanS662 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You should reverse your titles Dumbberg. Can the US compete.

  • @chessdad182
    @chessdad182 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Bill Gates jumpstarted China AI.

  • @somsakpolitics9031
    @somsakpolitics9031 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    China. Know. USA never send man on themoon

  • @manwingchi9156
    @manwingchi9156 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Chinese AI system is same level as US, the problem is what kind of questions you ask. 😊😊😊😊

    • @misterbig9025.
      @misterbig9025. 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      stolen ip

    • @adamsaciid4919
      @adamsaciid4919 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@misterbig9025. donkey

    • @MD97531
      @MD97531 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It’s nowhere near and US pioneered it 😊😊😊😊😊

  • @ma0236700
    @ma0236700 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Definitely YES, by hook or by crook and with government policy and financial support, focus on shifting everything key technologies, parts or specialists and scientists. Why NOT? Communism can do very very weird way supposed by Americans.

  • @PseudoProphet
    @PseudoProphet 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    China has the AI technology, but they don't have the GPUs.

    • @bubuneowoo6161
      @bubuneowoo6161 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Ignorant much? China has GPU 3,000x faster than Nvidia’s A100!

  • @eklim2034
    @eklim2034 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Not until China can makes her own state-of-art lithography machine

    • @jogo798
      @jogo798 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Not really for specialized AI chips

    • @chiaweinam
      @chiaweinam 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Or coerce other countries with its currency and military like US.

    • @paulzhang1310
      @paulzhang1310 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      does the US has its own state-of-art lithography machine ?...

    • @jaisriram295
      @jaisriram295 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@chiaweinamwould rather have a democratic government like the US who are influenced by their citizens and can be removed from power unlike the authoritarian dictatorship like China

    • @eklim2034
      @eklim2034 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@paulzhang1310 no, but "ASML's Extreme Ultraviolet (EUV) lithography machines require several critical parts, some of which are produced in the US. These parts include specialized mirrors, lenses, and other components essential for the machine's operation."

  • @samiah21
    @samiah21 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Keep going China... Continue being good to your fellow world citizens unlike the West.

  • @lifeinsheds2990
    @lifeinsheds2990 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Advance enzyme best company. We use this company product for family. Since 10 year.

  • @screenapple1660
    @screenapple1660 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    communism - there's no such thing is competition. People who live socialist and communist countries will tell you this. Hope this man on TV doesn't get fired for saying competition on TV.

    • @user-rk9xh8pm6w
      @user-rk9xh8pm6w 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      胡说,我们非常强调竞争。李开复是投资人,没有谁可以开除他。

    • @YSKWatch
      @YSKWatch 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      frankly, very stop-it comment. competition in china is severe, that's why everything are improved so fast, look at the Chinese EV for example.