$3,000 Full Frame vs $1,000 APS-C Camera Setup for Portraits

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  • In this video I compare a $3000 full frame camera setup:
    Sony A7C: geni.us/FullFrameA7C
    Sigma 85mm F1.4 Art: geni.us/SHARP85
    versus a $1000 APS-C camera setup:
    Sony A6100: geni.us/MyFavorite
    Sigma 56mm F1.4: geni.us/Portrait
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    Gear That I Use & Recommend:
    CAMERAS:
    For Photo & Video
    ▸ Sony A6100 (My Favorite) - geni.us/MyFavorite
    ▸ Sony A6400 (Better) - geni.us/BetterAPSC
    ▸ Sony A6600 (Best) - geni.us/BestAPSC
    ▸ Sony A7C (Full Frame) - geni.us/FullFrameA7C
    For Video
    ▸ Sony ZV-E10 (Good) - geni.us/ZVE-10
    ▸ Sony FX30 (My Favorite) - geni.us/BeastASPC
    APS-C LENSES:
    ▸ Sigma 18-50mm F2.8 (My Favorite) - geni.us/BestZoom
    ▸ Sony 11mm F1.8 (Best Ultrawide) - geni.us/BestUltraWide
    ▸ Sigma 16mm F1.4 (Best Wide Angle) - geni.us/Popular
    ▸ Sigma 30mm F1.4 (Affordable Street Lens) - geni.us/Street
    ▸ Sigma 56mm F1.4 (Best Portrait Lens) - geni.us/Portrait
    FULL FRAME LENSES:
    ▸ Sigma 20mm F2 (My Favorite) - geni.us/FFSigma20mm
    ▸ Rokinon AF 14mm F2.8 (Best Ultrawide) - geni.us/Rokinon
    ▸ Tamron 28-75mm F2.8 G2 (Best Do-Everything Lens) - geni.us/TamronV2
    ▸ Sigma 85mm F1.4 ART (AMAZING Portrait Lens) - geni.us/SHARP85
    ▸ Sony 50mm Macro (The Only Macro I Own) - geni.us/SonyMacro
    AUDIO:
    ▸ Zoom F3 (Love this Recorder) - geni.us/zoomf
    ▸ Audio-Technica AT875R Mic (What I Use) - geni.us/at875rmic
    ▸ DJI Mic (Best On-The-Go) - geni.us/djimice
    ▸ Acoustimac Sound Panels (Must-have) - geni.us/soundpanels
    LIGHTING:
    ▸ SmallRig RC220D (Great Value) - geni.us/rc220dlight
    ▸ SmallRig RC220B (My Key Light) - geni.us/rc220
    ▸ Sofirn SP33 V3 (Best Mini Flashlight) - geni.us/bestflashlight
    NICE-TO-HAVE ACCESSORIES:
    ▸ Feiyu Scorp Pro (Big Gimbal) - geni.us/scorppro
    ▸ Zyihun Crane M2S (Travel Gimbal) - geni.us/cranem2s
    ▸ Atomos Ninja V (Recording Monitor) - geni.us/ninja5
    ▸ SanDisk SD Cards - geni.us/sandisksd
    ▸ Sony ECM-B10 (Camera Mic) - geni.us/ecmb10mic
    Complete Gear List:
    ▸ kit.co/ArthurR
    -------------------
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    🛒 Amazon - geni.us/shoparound
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ความคิดเห็น • 829

  • @kokhualow3419
    @kokhualow3419 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I have A6600 and the A7IV, I enjoy shooting landscape and bird photography. Despite the advantage of low light for full frame, I'm constantly taking my A6600 for birding trips and landscape photography. Being a lighter setup enables me to be less "scary" looking holding a big camera/lens. I can say its true that the full frame is not 2 or 3 times better, maybe just 20 to 30 % better, usually in iso performance. As such I'm now considering very seriously to sell all my full frame and go back to apsc (A6600 + A6700)

  • @3dpuccio
    @3dpuccio 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Every time I get trapped in sales or full-frame love youtube videos, I come back to your channel and take my A6500 and go out so happy to take some shots. Thank you for another great video 🙌

    • @michaelcarr2466
      @michaelcarr2466 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I also have the 6500 with my friends encouraging me to buy the A7iii. I think I'll stick with what I have. Glad to read your comment.

  • @ohmartinbronson
    @ohmartinbronson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    What an incredible value in the sigma 56mm. That might just be the next lens I purchase. Great analysis, thank you!

    • @ElBoyoElectronico
      @ElBoyoElectronico 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So true, I had one for my Canon M50 and I still miss it to this day.

  • @SilatShooter
    @SilatShooter 2 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    I have both and I reach for the A6400 with the Sigma trio setup more often due to the size and weight advantage and the results are soo close. You helped me realize that. Another great video and service for the community. Thank you!

    • @inquisitvem6723
      @inquisitvem6723 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I find the Apsc Fuji cameras better than the Sony apsc ones. Socc are better with color science fantastic. I would buy Fuji over Sony.

    • @DennisDey
      @DennisDey ปีที่แล้ว

      I have been considering upgrading from a6400 to a7iii to move to full frame. Is it a significant upgrgade?

    • @inquisitvem6723
      @inquisitvem6723 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DennisDey do it. A7iii only like $1,700

    • @SilatShooter
      @SilatShooter ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@DennisDey Yes and no, definitely a difference after ISO 3200 but noise reduction software like DXO has gotten soo good at reducing noise making it less of an issue. There's more background blur with shorter focal lengths with FF but the lenses are more expensive. So there's give and take.

  • @rexn1589
    @rexn1589 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Excellent comparison Arthur! Thank you.

  • @davect01
    @davect01 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Nice video and comparison.
    APS-C's have gotten so good that the differences are minimal until pushed to the extremes where F.F. has the edge.
    If you are a pro, go F.F. without question. However, for casual weekend Dad shooters like me, APS-C is an amazing package. My A6400 has served me well and I have no need to go F.F.
    Both those 85mm and 56mm are outstanding lenses.

    • @satchrocks34
      @satchrocks34 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "APS-C's have gotten so good that the differences are minimal until pushed to the extremes where F.F. has the edge."
      Absolutely! Especially in terms of super high dynamic range situations and low light/high iso situations. I don't know how the A6400 and the newer versions of sony aps-c function in the real world, but in situations where my lighting is sufficient and controlled, its incredibly difficult to tell the difference between my a6000 and a7iii. Especially if not using a higher end prime on the a7iii, there are times where the crop sensor camera performs better.
      However, in situations where i need to significantly bring down highlights, bring up shadows, or use a higher ISO, the a7iii blows my a6000 outta the water. Noise is much more well controlled and looks better (less color noise) and have used shots at like 12,000 ISO where there is no way i could have with my a6000.
      With things like cost and weight factored in, I almost feel like I coulda just kept using my crop sensor camera with quality lighting, instead of spending the money on a new FF camera and much more expensive glass. Having a joystick is a lifesaver for me though

    • @MrSka7cis
      @MrSka7cis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well said, I share the sentiment. If pro (or a spare few $1k around), go FF. Otherwise, APSC is adequate. I fall in the APSC. That being said, I still dream of getting a FF set-up (just lacking the extra $)....one-day

  • @tarunsharma5254
    @tarunsharma5254 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video as always Arthur

  • @surja17
    @surja17 2 ปีที่แล้ว +122

    I think there are a few points to highlight here: APSC f1.4 is equivalent to full-frame f2.1 in terms of bokeh - therefore the background separation is significantly different in my opinion. Also, most of the shots you took were around ISO 100. Full frame widens the gap from crop sensor at higher ISO values ..... the one scenarios where you had higher ISO values - the full-frame at ISO8000 was significantly better than the APS-C at ISO6400. These may be the deciding factors for a lot of people and therefore should be highlighted properly.

    • @stephanweiskorn6760
      @stephanweiskorn6760 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      How often do you really use such high ISO numbers?

    • @nachot6592
      @nachot6592 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      This just makes it clear that you only NEED full frame when you are focusing on night photography.

    • @alansach8437
      @alansach8437 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      All true. On the other hand, the additional "reach" of a high resolution APS-C camera (like the Canon R7) might be just what you need for capturing shy little songbirds. Not only does the 1.6 "crop factor" get you "closer " with the same lens, but the high megapixel density (higher than the R5) will allow you to crop additionally in post. Also, APS-C is a fine economical choice for documenting family outings, vacations etc.
      There is no universal "right" choice.

    • @isblijkbaarnodig
      @isblijkbaarnodig 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      If I’m correct this is untrue.
      Crop factor has no effect on aperture.
      So a 56mm f1.4 lens on APSC has similar depth of field and bokeh effect as a 85mm f1.4 lens on full frame.
      Feel free to educate me because I don’t know the physics that would prove either way.

  • @olivershutterspeed
    @olivershutterspeed 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I love the Sigma 56mm for my Sony a6000 photoshoot behind the scenes!

  • @CloudSpecter
    @CloudSpecter 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Very interesting comparison, thanks!

  • @iakivpekarskyi1631
    @iakivpekarskyi1631 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome! The video I was looking for. Thank you very much!

  • @shadowshapers
    @shadowshapers 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for taking the time to make the side by side comparison. I think this will help me justify the lens purchases before I step into a full frame body.

  • @IvanGRANID
    @IvanGRANID ปีที่แล้ว

    Great as always! Thank You so much!!!!!!

  • @Jobitto07
    @Jobitto07 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    long life APS-C !
    thanks for another great video.
    Happy 2022 to you and your whole family. Blessings

  • @rickbattle5706
    @rickbattle5706 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very interesting comparison. Thanks for doing the video.

  • @carrywu
    @carrywu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    Didn't regret buying the 56mm. It's a beast of a lens.

    • @satchrocks34
      @satchrocks34 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That was my favourite crop sensor lens by quite a bit. So damn sharp

    • @penguin_edits
      @penguin_edits 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      same here man, i got it as a gift and its been producing bangers ever since

    • @tappedurmom9739
      @tappedurmom9739 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I like the sigma 105mm for my a7iii and like you said I'm not a fan of the noise on the smaller sensor. Limits my ability at night. So it's a no brainer for me. But you better start lifting some weights to Lug around that Sigma 105 mm

    • @donquique1
      @donquique1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I have the 56 but enjoy the 16 way more. I find the 56 impractical in most situations but is very sharp too.

    • @penguin_edits
      @penguin_edits 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@donquique1 i always have the 16mm and love it too. i have to say it gives a very interesting look to a photo yk

  • @itsjim2875
    @itsjim2875 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks, Arthur! Great review.

  • @Dave-ht7dx
    @Dave-ht7dx 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you. Excellent comparison, enlightening.

  • @omerfarukavar
    @omerfarukavar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    A very useful explanation for APS-C and FF, thank you.

  • @SkilledSpark
    @SkilledSpark 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I have been using the 56mm and a6100 combo for over a year now, the images it produces are incredible and in my opinion the best value one can get, great video!

  • @guyjordan8201
    @guyjordan8201 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    After watching my A7R2 rapidly fall behind more recent generations I am now pursuing APSC lenses to round out my kit. Cropped mode on my camera gives 18MP, which is adequate if we are honest, so I appreciate your emphasis on APSC Sony options. Good video, I like the results from the 56mm a lot.

  • @ruperterskin2117
    @ruperterskin2117 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool. Thanks for sharing.

  • @ozwrangler.c
    @ozwrangler.c 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very helpful comparison 🙏

  • @ToolsElectroDIY
    @ToolsElectroDIY ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent comparison video, you have the best Sony lens reviews on YT!

  • @rvnmedic2709
    @rvnmedic2709 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was the best comparison I've seen yet. Honest and concise. Thanks.

  • @Fifthimagez
    @Fifthimagez ปีที่แล้ว

    This was great!

  • @purplecorde
    @purplecorde 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great review as always, Arthur! Are you going to review the new Tamron 18-300mm?

  • @rickyip7308
    @rickyip7308 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    very useful and informative.

  • @imSoNotDavid
    @imSoNotDavid 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Arthur. Because of you I got the a6400 and sigma 56 1.4 a while back. Great advice. Since then I thought the a7c would be my next move (full frame whilst keeping the flip out screen) but this video has proven there's not a big need after all.

  • @dakunclear
    @dakunclear 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The thing for me which I noticed is the low light performance since I do take more photos at night upgrading from my A6000 to the Sony A7III was a good idea plus doing time-lapse is much easier on the A7III. Mind you the upgrade from the a6000 to the a7III was a massive leap all in all so it made more sense for me.

  • @benchia
    @benchia 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I stumbled upon this channel looking for a7C content but now I'm hooked on your a6100 setup.

  • @Sofus.Solivagante
    @Sofus.Solivagante 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great comparison!

  • @francissosing
    @francissosing 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Really like this review. I really enjoy my APSC especially for its form factor and that lenses overall are less expensive. I shoot with the Fuji XS-10. Keep up the great work and going against the grain on TH-cam. 🙌

  • @metaler4274
    @metaler4274 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the best video for hobby photographers. Thx. I really appreciate it.

  • @ridwanardiansyah9845
    @ridwanardiansyah9845 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    wow great compare sir thank you very much much much

  • @otjutt
    @otjutt 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Arthur for this video. It was extremely helpful for me in making mind for a6400. Thanks.

  • @levarirene
    @levarirene 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Super vidéo merci

  • @vvlad78
    @vvlad78 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great job, Arthur! As always :)
    It could be interesting to compare the same cameras in video mode. I guess 4k and especially 1080p will be better on ff, but how big will be the difference?

  • @architects-io3xr
    @architects-io3xr 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you Arthur R.
    Great analysis.
    Very professional 🍷🙏👍🏻.
    Video is a big help.

  • @Joh146
    @Joh146 ปีที่แล้ว

    Many thanks. Im impressed of the capabilities of the Sigma 56 1.4 and Sony A6400 Combo. That´s more than enough for a hobby photographer.

  • @valdemarcaballero5298
    @valdemarcaballero5298 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video Arthur!!!! thanks for sharing!!!! That little combo looks fantastic!!! even more because the difference in price is HUUUGE. I own both FF and aps c sony cameras and your information is sooo useful both for professionals and amateurs alike. Thanks for sharing, thanks for your time and effort and greetings from Mexico city... BLESSINGS!!!!!

  • @nevildadrewalla
    @nevildadrewalla ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the kind of presentation that does some good. Great job.

  • @sneakingelephant
    @sneakingelephant 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your videos brother. I myself got an a7C as well last year and enjoy using it. I primarily went with it because I knew I'd need the ability to shoot low light more often. As I've gotten more used to the controls I am lamenting the lack of extra shortcut buttons

  • @boukou
    @boukou 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The cost savings continue to add up as you introduce additional lenses, too. The Sony 70-350mm, Tamron 17-70mm, Tamron 11-20mm, Sony 10-18mm, and the Sigma Trio (16, 30, & 56mm)…all far cheaper than full frame equivalent lenses. So, as you build out your collection of lenses, the cost savings will continue to grow.
    If you have the money, or you’re making enough income off your work, then go full frame or even medium format (if you’re really making the big bucks). Otherwise, APSC has come a long way.

    • @TechnoBabble
      @TechnoBabble 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Most of the equivalent lenses are the same price or slightly more expensive. The Tamron 11-20 f/2.8 isn't much less than a 16-35 f/4, which has the benefit of OIS. The Sigma 56mm f/1.4 is currently $430USD and the Sony 85mm f/1.8 is $550 but lets in more total light on a full frame sensor, the Sigma 30mm f/1.4 is $290 and the Sony 50mm f/1.8 is $250, the Sigma 16mm is the notable exception as the cheapest first party option for Sony is the 24mm f/1.8 Zeiss T* at double the price.

    • @runhardhooah
      @runhardhooah 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I actually have the 70-350 on the way as we speak. Should show up on Tuesday so I can get some crisp mountain goat shots. And one thing that I like about the APSC line is they will only improve, unless Sony ditches it altogether, which seems highly unlikely. After all, imo, they have to beat out the Fujifilm XT4 if they're a serious camera brand.

  • @MrSmith-dt7bs
    @MrSmith-dt7bs ปีที่แล้ว

    Long time watcher of your videos and this one just saved me some serious cash. Thank you for the comparison, truly perfect video.

  • @MrSka7cis
    @MrSka7cis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thanks for this review. I mostly simply take family photos of course non-professionally. I have an APSC set up but youtube videoes make me dream of a full-frame. However, I will simply save the money for something like a house.

  • @chicken_person
    @chicken_person 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yeah, as was shown in the video and what a lot of people are saying in the comments, low light is definitely the huge difference here. As somebody whose favorite genre is astrophotography, low light performance is among the most important aspects of a camera. I started with the a6000 and Rokinon 12mm f/2.0, but once I had the budget to move to an a7s and Rokinon 18mm f/2.8 the difference was incredible, and that difference increased even more once I got the Sony 20mm f/1.8.
    Only big downside of the a7s is that autofocus is garbage, but I *still* like to use the a7s more for action shots (sports) regardless, because it just functions so much better in low light situations. I use my a6000 for basketball sometimes, because it's closer-up than when I shoot soccer and so I can use the Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8, but for most of the rest it's worth dealing with the crappy AF. It just means I have to be more careful about timing, since continuous AF + burst shooting is unbelievably terrible.

  • @degs88
    @degs88 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Always enjoyed your videos… I bought an A6600 with a Sony 16-55mm len to start and since then bought the Sigma Trio lens on some really good 2nd hand deals… absolutely loved it as I am just a hobbyist photographer for my daughter, toys and food… enough for my use case for now.

  • @julianmolina4806
    @julianmolina4806 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    excelente video. muy didáctico👍.

  • @rickymcc8624
    @rickymcc8624 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Arthur
    Good to see you now have 170k+ subscribers. I subscribed around your 10-15k phase several years ago when I first started using a Sony APSC body.
    That early sub and my first Sony APSC (bought after viewing your channel) started me in a totally different photographic journey that eventually saw my switching from mostly Nikon kit (after 28 years) and going 'all in' with Sony.
    Not seen many of your vids lately, but stopped by for this, Agree APSC is pretty good and possibly optimum for most.

  • @davemunoz9742
    @davemunoz9742 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have the same apsc combo and couldnt be more pleased with the results

  • @i-vpantomime4406
    @i-vpantomime4406 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love the concept for this video before even watching it.

  • @Openbaffle
    @Openbaffle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    superb comparison, i will retain my apsc set up.

  • @user-fp4nc1zh7j
    @user-fp4nc1zh7j 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Arthur !

  • @a55tech
    @a55tech 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    more night & low lights tests pls

  • @wsanyal
    @wsanyal 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So nice.. please do another for casual or travel photography

  • @gordon3988
    @gordon3988 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Actually preferred most of the APSC photos; on a technical side the FF likely best, but this is TH-cam and its more about how it looks on a smaller screen. Both were nice and regardless very close. Well done!

  • @JimOutLoud
    @JimOutLoud 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Really great comparison. I'm right at the decision point to replace my setup after selling my Canon 7D kit a while back. I as SURE Sony full frame (in fact the A7C) was going to be where I went. But this gives me pause and that's not a bad thing! Thanks for this great content.

  • @8pedro7
    @8pedro7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the video. It would be very interesting to see the same photos after tweaked in post.

  • @reactivemouse
    @reactivemouse 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That Sigma 56 is exelent! Definitely my next buy.

  • @ElBoyoElectronico
    @ElBoyoElectronico 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Sigma 56mm is a true game changer! I had one for my Canon M50 and it was a game changer and so, so much fun to use.

  • @tysonator5433
    @tysonator5433 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The warmer tones from the APSC set up is very surprising !

  • @antalgabor
    @antalgabor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Best comparison between APSC vs FF on youtube. APSC FTW!

  • @jmackultra
    @jmackultra 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man that Sigma 85mm is fantastic 👌. Just got one a little while back

  • @0xbotyoyo
    @0xbotyoyo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That‘s why I always prefer sony's APS-C (A6500) for hobby use. So easy to carry around, budget friendly and delivers amazing photos.

  • @ocker2000
    @ocker2000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Those Sigma lenses do make a huge difference compared to "other" lenses. I had better start saving to get that 56mm Sigma! Great video. Thx.

  • @davideberhardt4977
    @davideberhardt4977 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Great comparisons. The APS-C is definitely a good camera matched with the Sigma. I would NOT spend the extra on the A7C and expensive lens. One might think that people would not want really really sharp portraits anyway, right? One observation I had was that I was amazed how your wife was able to duplicate her poses. you can tell when your kid is in the shots cause he is looking at different places in his shots but your wife isn't. Very professional!

    • @COMEDYiNSiDE
      @COMEDYiNSiDE ปีที่แล้ว

      Ha ha ha. You are rightly so... You are spot on...

  • @annarakannan6620
    @annarakannan6620 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing comparison. I was torn between the two lenses. Yes I started from the lenses to work my way backwards. I decided to go apsc. Suits my needs better.

  • @markusgaidemesum
    @markusgaidemesum 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great post on the topic of full format vs APSC. I personally prefer the APSC sensor again since I started with wildlife. For portraits I use the Sigma 50-100 F.1.8 EF mostly with the Eos 90D or the M6Mkii from Canon, when I work with Sony I use the Mc-11 adapter on the bodies. Have a nice day, Greetings from Germany .Markus Gaide

  • @stephanes.
    @stephanes. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like your simplicity!

  • @stephanes.
    @stephanes. 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have the Sigma 30mm F1.4 and it's great too!

  • @chrisd1903
    @chrisd1903 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you so much. Your comparisons are really good (side by side, zooming really close in). I like that you do comparisons between lenses/ bodies where others would say "you cant compare Apples with peaches".
    But i liked all FF Shots better, mostly because of the bokeh, and then the so much better low light quality. But to be honest, i am even less than a hobbiest and the 1k for a6400 and sel35f1.8 hurt me (not reqlly finanziellly, but because of reasoning) - so spending 3x the money would not let me sleep, regardless of the better quality.

  • @avjake
    @avjake ปีที่แล้ว

    That Sigma 85mm is a stunner. Thanks for the demo of that. Regarding the APS-C, low light noise is the deal breaker for me. Color can always be improved in post.

  • @classicboy97
    @classicboy97 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I think it's important to point out that the composition of the images are just as important as the body/lens setup; if you're a hobbyist and just like taking pictures where the only thing that matters is the sharpness of the subject in center, then the APS-C setup with the 56mm is perfect for you. The 56mm DC DN is seriously so sharp and such a steal at that price point. However, if you're doing professional paid work, and the "bluriness" of the background is just as important as the subject, then you need to get the full frame setup. That 85mm Art lens is obviously just as sharp as the 56mm (if not sharper in some instances) but comes with the advantage of having more depth of field than the APS-C lens. There were a couple of times when Arthur thought the 56mm was sharper than the 85mm, but that's because the 56mm f1.4 equates to about an 84mm f2.1's depth of field (not light gathering capabilities) in full-frame terms, meaning more of the subject will be in focus.
    Is it worth the extra $800 just to get a little more depth of field if you're a hobbyist or just casually taking photos? Of course not. But when the whole image matters for paying clients, then that extra creamy background blur from the full-frame setup will be worth the investment. Equally important to note is that when you start stopping down both lens to f4.0 or 5.6, then the difference of background blur and sharpness becomes moot because both lens perform admirably in terms of corner-to-corner sharpness. If you don't need the background blur or bokeh in the kind of photography that you shoot, such as landscape, studio photography or real estate, save yourself the money and get the aps-c setup since you'll probably be shooting around those aperture settings anyways.

  • @Serhat_aydin
    @Serhat_aydin ปีที่แล้ว

    Photography is my hobby and I bought a6600 after following Arthur's suggestion. I have kit lens, sigma 16mm and sigma 56mm. The photos those I've taken so far.... are impressive. Even you push the limits in low light,the results are great. For video, it needs gimbal; but for photo it is good setup for good price. I've never used full frame; but if it is hobby, I think it is better to spend the price difference to diffetent lenses like tele photo lens.

  • @pf4773
    @pf4773 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    As someone who has the Sony A6600, and have had the A6100 for years, thanks for making me feel better about sticking with the APSC line :)! I prefer the 30 mm Sigma because I like not having to be so far away from the subject when shooting, and then just use the zoom 18-108mm or the 70-350mm (both sonys) if I want other views. It's always fun and SO satisfying when reviewers challenge the status quo as well as "sacred cows" that people hold dear as to which is better. One thing that the APSC line kills the full frame, besides price, is size, portability, weight, and general usability, especially for travelers. Smaller less conspicuous cameras get used much more than the larger bulky cameras---it just feels weird to attend MOST social gatherings or events local to your home and carry big cameras, almost no one does!

  • @robertdavis1255
    @robertdavis1255 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for sharing... great video showing different results...I prefer the skin tones on the APS-C gear...I am only a hobbyist & don't have a full frame camera so I am still happy with my D500 Nikon although I will consider the better glass of Sigmas Art lens.... cheers 😀

  • @dragonfist25
    @dragonfist25 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I liked the colors better sometimes on the aps-c but the bokeh looked noticeably better on the full-frame.
    If you have the money go with the full-frame but I don’t think you’ll be disappointed with the aps-c setup.

    • @dragonfist25
      @dragonfist25 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JL-fh4qw Just close down the aperture then.

  • @hermanoteixeiramachado
    @hermanoteixeiramachado 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The best review.

  • @jonoy4375
    @jonoy4375 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is a very meaningful comparison

  • @MMm-hz6hl
    @MMm-hz6hl 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video as always..I have the 56mm and I love it..wondering how will it perform on a7c crop mode..thanks

  • @travelvidya833
    @travelvidya833 2 ปีที่แล้ว +214

    I feel like the tangible advantage full frame has, is how much better it does in low light. If shooting in great light, your setup matters far less.

    • @a55tech
      @a55tech 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      iPhone portrait tricks can hang w/ them in good light too, at least for social media

    • @carrywu
      @carrywu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah, that's the concept of photography, drawing with light. The more light you have, the easier it is to get better picture.

    • @PhullyNo1
      @PhullyNo1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yep, 100 percent. It’s worth it IF you’re the type of person that needs it.

    • @SkymenKing
      @SkymenKing 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Here is the same Aperture, for the same Aperture, same ISO. The brightness must be the same, the only different is the number of pixel. For those reason that the photo is better because of retified by the internal computer, iphone instead of camera is a better choice for you.

    • @kiyoshim9593
      @kiyoshim9593 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      WOW YOU DISCOVERED HOW TO COOK CUP RAMEN.

  • @johndonaldson5126
    @johndonaldson5126 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good video. In almost every case I thought the FF was sharper than the APSC just using her eyes to make that evaluation.

    • @wesleywamsley443
      @wesleywamsley443 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You'd hope so for a lens that is over 2x the cost

  • @kariossyr6018
    @kariossyr6018 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good review and to the point. Also, there's a considerable difference in the Dynamic Range, but like other aspects, the gain is not comparable to the cost.

  • @BackFocus11
    @BackFocus11 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great analysis, I have seen the same myself when I was using Fuji often.... I also see the same when using a 50MP full frame and compared to a medium format fuji..... Seeing the difference is where the pixel peepers see the most results.

  • @goldenretrieverindia
    @goldenretrieverindia ปีที่แล้ว

    You are the man who cleared the doubt of buying APS-C camera compared to Fullframe.
    Finally someone to support the APS-C where everyone brags about fullframe 😍😍

  • @zeropain9319
    @zeropain9319 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Fantastic video, thanks for doing this comparison. I'm on the fence to upgrade to full frame, but after seeing this, I'm going to keep my A6000 and my Sigma 56. I can see how lucky I am to have them and no need for spending another $2K. I do think the full frame is better, but not for my needs. This was a video I never imagined I needed, so well done, thank you for doing this!

  • @AJ-ds5gf
    @AJ-ds5gf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I love, love the sony a6000 and I bought it 3 years ago based on your videos. What I would love from you, as I choose my next camera, is to compare photos taken only at night. I'm going Tokyo and would love to take bokeh pictures in lower light conditions which is why I'm thinking of getting the A7C but not sure if the full frame is worth it. Please do a video on the same camera comparison but with night photography.

    • @valentinfrei6054
      @valentinfrei6054 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      well maybe you could borrow an a7c for your trip and decide afterwards?

    • @AJ-ds5gf
      @AJ-ds5gf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@valentinfrei6054 good idea. Can I borrow yours?

    • @valentinfrei6054
      @valentinfrei6054 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Haha I don"t have one, sorry 😋 I Was thinking to rent one for money

    • @PhoonBucgeneMY
      @PhoonBucgeneMY 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think using the sigma trio will eliminate any issue for night photography

    • @Giovanniram22
      @Giovanniram22 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Oh hi
      I don't think that it is so simple.

  • @brianwashburn5583
    @brianwashburn5583 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really relevant video! I have the A6400 and was wondering if it's worth the upgrade to FF. I think after seeing this that I'm happy with what I have. The lighter weight means I'll carry it more and probably get better shots simply because it's in my hands.

  • @zerixos
    @zerixos 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Arthur, its nice that you point out that full frame isn't everything. A lot comes down to lenses and a lot of apsc lenses can get very simular results. Keep in mind that judging sharpness when shooting at slower shutterspeeds isn't ideal, neither the 56mm or the A6100 has stabalisation, also setting your whitebalance helps with consitency of the colors. Anyway, i think that the Sigma 56mm is a bargain, but the A6100 is pretty expensive in europe. Hopefully it helps people making the right choice, because full frame isn't the only good option.

  • @chrisjohnston964
    @chrisjohnston964 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for another great video. You've helped me decide to go for the a6600 (I need the better battery and IBIS) over the a7III and save a ton of money.

  • @liwei828
    @liwei828 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really great and honest review.
    Still struggling whether to get a full-frame or not.

    • @depannist
      @depannist 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Get the full frame. Makes a difference in low light.

  • @nevvanclarke9225
    @nevvanclarke9225 ปีที่แล้ว

    I own a Fuji film, XT5 and I can honestly say this thing competes very closely with most full frame cameras. I could post these photos on any full frame page and people would not know if I did not state the camera.

  • @miroslavturiak4578
    @miroslavturiak4578 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just bought my Sony a7iii a few months ago and I can definitely say it is a better camera than Sony a6000 I had before. Also my new lenses are a lot better! I love the bokeh, colours are better by my opinion too and low light performance as well! But if you have the same amount of megapixels on full- frame and APSC you don't see a big difference in detail. And this video is a proof of it!

  • @TexpatOTG
    @TexpatOTG 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good show. I only shoot video with my APS-C Sony and it does the job well for me. I don't want the added expense and weight of a full frame when the difference is negligible. I really like your lens reviews. I just bought the Samyang AF 12mm based on your influence. Cheers ..

  • @nightcoder5k
    @nightcoder5k 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I totally agree with you. For casual users, the APS-C setup is great, but if you want that extra wow factor, get the full-frame. It's like NASCAR racing, if your car was slightly better than it is, you may have won the race.

  • @DavidOastler
    @DavidOastler 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review Arthur what is the mic stand you are using?

  • @PatrickWithCamera
    @PatrickWithCamera 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Got a6100+56mm and im happy with it, but in this video I see that FF + Sigma Art is a lot better, not only skin tones, shades, colors but even sharpness! If I see it in blurred and compressed YT video then in RAW it will be even more difference, this comparison makes me want to buy FF!
    If I were professional I would not hesitate and insta buy A7C + sigma 85 atm cause its huge upgrade.

  • @ruben378
    @ruben378 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you please try the Sigma 85 on APS-C.
    Great video!👍

  • @rickymcc8624
    @rickymcc8624 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Arthur
    Thanks for an informative video. I agree it's easy to get swayed by hype that bigger is better. There is logic and science behind bigger sensors being better, however that comes at a cost. You demonstrate that for many/most APSC is more than good enough. Indeed extrapolating the argument, I can see why for many (eg my wife) that a smaller sensor phone is all the camera they need. Certainly that's a position born out by sales and user data nowadays. Your pics of a photogenic wife and son, demonstrate reason enough why anyone should consider learning how to use a good quality camera.
    I'm old enough now to have become a 'photo nut' in the days of film. I well remember the days I lusted after a Hassleblad on the basis that "a good bigun beats a littlun anyday". I have shot 645 and 67 roll film with a lovely Mamyia RZ - amazing quality but incredible bulk and cost. Digital is so much more convenient. Nowadays anyone prepared to spend a little money and time to practice can become a reasonable photographer. It's still down to physics though. The trade off then, as now, is still best quality vs. size, heft, cost etc etc.
    You demonstrate that for most enthusiastic shooters APSC is pretty good, compact, convenient, affordable and better than phones. In many ways it's the 'sweet spot'.
    But I'm a self confessed amateur 'photo nut' perfectionist. I'm also lucky that I can afford to indulge myself in my no.1 hobby. So I use both APSC and full frame. It's a different tool for different needs. I also shoot a phone occasionally too, but mostly it's full frame with high end glass.
    I have owned and used 30+ cameras in past 40 years. Yes I do like kit, but I shoot thousands of pics in multiple genres - favouring sports, portraiture and creative work. I will shoot anything from astro, reportage, travel, wildlife but love people and action sports best.
    Your channel helped me switch from Nikon kit (which I loved) to Sony which I like, but still have yet to love (I think love comes with time, memories and eventually nostalgia).
    I bought a Sony a6500 and ran that alongside two Nikon DSLRs for a year. Eventually I gravitated to full frame Sony a7r3 after the much hyped but lacklustre Nikon Z6/7 launch. Upgraded again to a7r4, then a9. Believe newer Sony GM glass is now way better than most of my Nikkor glass ever was, so I can't ever envisage going back to Nikon now. I'm keen to buy an a1 (mainly for action sports and nature work) but would like to see prices fall slightly first.
    So despite 40 years of mostly amateur photography practice, success both selling work, and winning awards in multiple international exhibitions, enjoying a budget that can support the best kit available - I still see real value and merit in the APSC format. A small compact APSC body with a good prime will allow great photos, whilst working discreetly and not looking like a serious photographer or professional - that occasionally invites unwanted attention and gets you moved on before making the shot you want (typically reportage).
    I recently bought a 35mm f1.4 GM lens (lovely quality) to use on full frame. It's a fantastic lens for environmental portraiture and street reportage. I'm now thinking that Sony's a7c body (which I have never tried) might be the perfect, reasonably discrete, partner for street use and today's best answer to Cartier Bresson's Leica.
    Anyway, do please keep flying the flag for APSC!

    • @myblueandme
      @myblueandme ปีที่แล้ว

      Dear sir i use Flektagon 35 2.4 on Nikon D3300