It's actually extremely common for Chaos servants to actively hate chaos, but it doesn't stop them from using it and being used by it. Ahriman is absolutely convinced that he's in control of his own destiny. Abaddon believes he's his own man. Fabius tries so hard to convince himself that he's going to make a universe free of chaotic influence. Let them all think they're in control. As long as the job gets done, who gives a shit if the pawns think themselves kings.
The gods don't care if you hate them or not. Just using their powers or doing rituals is worship to them. They really don't care If a mortal sees it as not religious, only that the do it.
@@changer_of_ways_999 it various a lot from legion to legion and individuals in the legions. At the end of the day they all (Night Lords and Iron Warriors too) joined the monster mash. They sheltered in the eye of terror, they are permanently touched by chaos.
@@cornixdemetrius7883 if you are a Chaos Corrupted Night Lord and run into more Night Lords there's an extremely high chance of you being killed for falling to Chaos.
1:21 Right after the silence, when the night lord asked if "is something supposed to be happening?" the lights flickered and the power went out in my neighborhood. I swear for a second i considered the possibility of the iron warriors being outside my apartment stealing my electricity straight from the power lines
Aye, I tend to think the difference is that the majority of NL and IW don't let the chaos gods guide their actions They work in service to their own goals still
Tbh Iron warriors are very much chaos is a means to an end, that daemon is TRAPPED in there, its not willingly serving the iron warrior, the ironwarrior is using if to fuel his vengeance
@@CafeLiquerstreamswhich makes them join the ranks of countless other fools thinking one can use Chaos without falling to it. (Unless you are a Mary Sue Space Marine I guess)
"Wait. If we're using chaos as a tool, why not the false emperor?" "What do you mean?" "Chaotic entities (demons, energy, etc.) can be useful, right? Why are we not using things associated with the emperor? Like imperial fanaticism. I saw the Bird woman harnessing some power in the Necron null field." "Have you even thought this through? Did you forget what people called us?"
Fantastic. Consistently very very funny and the underlying lore / legion characteristics are spot on. Amazing work, nothing makes me laugh out loud like these do.
@@antonissofoulis6032 well let's be fair. Iron warriors are group that think "if this benefit to us and it works then we cool with that, no matter how messed up it's" so they just turn a blind eyes on it since it does give new recruits to the 4th legion by C.D. before urial and bazanius with adders marryband of exile astartes destroyed it and hon su now was after their asses.
@@justwannabehappy6735 Wait, Night Lords have anything that can be called a leader? I thought part of the ongoing narrative is that only Decimus or even Sevatar would be able to unite the legion to turn it into an effective fighting force.
Night Lord: "We hate Chaos! We're not corrupted, Isn't that right, Gendor Skriavok?" Gendor: "My Daemon Blade sent me to Hell for 10,000 years! AAAAAAAAH!" Night Lord: "Okay, bad choice. What about you, Vandred Anrathi?" Vandred: *Turns it's hideously deformed face*, "I AM THE EXALTED OF TZEENTCH." Nightlord, "Uh, nevermind."
@@justwannabehappy6735 NL are corrupted but they aren't happy about it. Lore wise they tend to look down heavily on anyone who is, even Warp Talons. And they definitely do not like a Daemon Prince leading them, but they will accept it until someone stronger takes them out. It's how they are, they are flawed to a T.
@@justwannabehappy6735 Whilst that may be the case within that novel it isn't "literally untrue". The NL Omnibus has them looked at in disgust. So it is entirely warband dependant.
The difference is the demon gets a new cool mechanical body but has to work for the creator while the other legions tend to just do stuff for the gods for power or just let a demon in and control them
I think being shoved into an engine for an undetermined amount of time sucks a lot for the deamon, thereby it is fine because you are still harming chaos in a way
The truly ironic point is that those chaos chaps just displayed more self-consciousness, autocriticism and simple honesty in two minutes than the whole imperium in ten millenia
0:15 I don’t think a Night Lord would even object that much. Like sure they’ll complain and threaten to skin you, but probably not any more than usual?
Iron warriors: "we use chaos, chaos doesn't use us. We will never bow to the whims of any otherworldly entities." Chaos: "Uh huh. So how's your primarch doing?"
There's a difference here: Hear me out. It's like the difference between taming a horse and fucking a horse. One is basically a living tool you use for something. As well as showing dominance to something that would otherwise not want to be tamed and broken to your will. The other one requires you to be the bottom in a situation where you shouldn't bottom or even be in in the first place, it's such an unfathomably stupid idea.
Listen if i put a rat inside a wheel to power up a tank, thats animal cruelty for starters, BUT when you do that with a demon, is corrupted then? Sounds like an excuse to point the finger and say "those guys are definetly corrupted"
When you see an Iron warrior you thought it was Iron hand but no... One is Cyber space marine The other is Devil machinery marine Manus & Perturabo are opposite
Hmm...what type of Daemon do they put into each type of engine? The bigger ones need greater deamons, but where is the line? Do forgefiends have lesser daemons? Or do they have the daemonic beasts of a god, like flesh hounds or screamers?
Night lords are way more into Chaos corruption than the Iron Warriors. It's one thing to allow mutation to fuse you with your weapons and jump packs (like raptors), it's another to enslave a Daemon and use it's suffering as fuel for your tanks.
Funny you mentioned fusing with weapons. What about obliterators? And daemonculaba? IW are as currupted as as any other traitor legion, just like night lords.
He is “skinning children guy” and while showing daemon into machine to enslave them is technically not liking chaos, those are basically walking radiation hazards of chaos meaning being around them definitely corrupts you. That and, you know, literal centuries in chaos’ Chernobyl that is eye of terror.
Glad to see my legion is pure after all these years....Right guys?
Which half?
Hell ya brother
I don’t think you guys even know which you’re on!
Yeah pure fucking badass 😎😎😎😎😎😎😎
Well the old alpha legionnaires did stay uncorrupted, but "the new blood" is indeed all about chaos. They're Alpha Legion only in name.
Night Lords and Iron Warriors “I hate chaos!”
Chaos Gods: here’s another arm idiot
It's actually extremely common for Chaos servants to actively hate chaos, but it doesn't stop them from using it and being used by it. Ahriman is absolutely convinced that he's in control of his own destiny. Abaddon believes he's his own man. Fabius tries so hard to convince himself that he's going to make a universe free of chaotic influence. Let them all think they're in control. As long as the job gets done, who gives a shit if the pawns think themselves kings.
The gods don't care if you hate them or not. Just using their powers or doing rituals is worship to them. They really don't care If a mortal sees it as not religious, only that the do it.
@@changer_of_ways_999 it various a lot from legion to legion and individuals in the legions. At the end of the day they all (Night Lords and Iron Warriors too) joined the monster mash. They sheltered in the eye of terror, they are permanently touched by chaos.
Oh Tzeentch, you rascal.
In fairness, an Iron Warrior will almost certainly cut that extra arm off
The night lords desperately trying to hide his heldrake
And toothy jump pack.
@@odinlindeberg4624trying to hide his brothers turned warp talons
@@cornixdemetrius7883 if you are a Chaos Corrupted Night Lord and run into more Night Lords there's an extremely high chance of you being killed for falling to Chaos.
@@perapapic3683from what lore source? Or all night lords chaos lords going off and killing off their warp talons?
“We prefer the term ‘chaos assisted’”. Idk why but Iron Warriors pulling an “um actually” is pretty funny
Um akshually is very in character for an Iron Warrior.
it just fits so perfectly!
He's not wrong though.
@@philosotree5876 you don't have to end every sentence with "though", though.🎵
@@slkjvlkfsvnlsdfhgdght5447 Opinion read, acknowledged, and ignored.
1:21 Right after the silence, when the night lord asked if "is something supposed to be happening?" the lights flickered and the power went out in my neighborhood.
I swear for a second i considered the possibility of the iron warriors being outside my apartment stealing my electricity straight from the power lines
these two give such sibling energy.
Traitorbros... We’re so back.
Iron warrior be like
It has a choas daemon inside, and i made it my bitch
I like the use of choas instead of chaos. I feel like that's a tts ref
Even with CHOAS there i reded as chaos
Aye, I tend to think the difference is that the majority of NL and IW don't let the chaos gods guide their actions
They work in service to their own goals still
We need a series based out of these 2, it's way beyond hilarious dude.
This is why Iron Warriors and Night Lords need their own codex!
Tbh Iron warriors are very much chaos is a means to an end, that daemon is TRAPPED in there, its not willingly serving the iron warrior, the ironwarrior is using if to fuel his vengeance
One can dream
And alpha legion !
Honestly they just needa make more iron warrior models they fit in with csm mostly fine
@@CafeLiquerstreamswhich makes them join the ranks of countless other fools thinking one can use Chaos without falling to it.
(Unless you are a Mary Sue Space Marine I guess)
"Wait. If we're using chaos as a tool, why not the false emperor?"
"What do you mean?"
"Chaotic entities (demons, energy, etc.) can be useful, right? Why are we not using things associated with the emperor? Like imperial fanaticism. I saw the Bird woman harnessing some power in the Necron null field."
"Have you even thought this through? Did you forget what people called us?"
Yeah night lords are TOTALLY not corrupted or anything at all.
*cough cough* warp talons *cough cough*
Battle brother Cyrion who? No, that guy was an upstanding brother in arms with a great sense of humour, I have no idea what you are talking about
@@justwannabehappy6735Current are not, Acerbus only lead a really big warband
@@justwannabehappy6735 but doesn't represent the NL as a whole and definitely doesn't lead them...
One warband of night lords even show UP in Dawn of war dark crusade as chaos space marines faction
@@paulenan9636 Uzas was the one seriously corrupted, Cyrion while definitely a little TOO close to Slaanesh wasn't over that line...probably
1:48 I call bull, no Night Lord would turn that down. Definitely Alpha Legion.
Fantastic. Consistently very very funny and the underlying lore / legion characteristics are spot on. Amazing work, nothing makes me laugh out loud like these do.
Yes more traitor Jim let's go
the part when the Guardsman showed up and shouted "Tanks" killed me.
You can’t lie. Warpsmith is such a bloody cool name
"Do I call you a skinning children guy"
I lost my shit instantly :D
It's not that deep
Everything is that deep
@@Oghuzpervert1 alright Ataturk don't get sentimental with me.
Meanwhile Perturabo ascending to demonhood
Iron Warrior: We arent that corrupted
Me: *cough* *cough* "daemonculaba" *cough* *cough*
Was not that only a warsmith honsu idea?
@@justwannabehappy6735 ok
@@yurabuchkov8138 didnt see any other iron warrior questioning it
@@antonissofoulis6032 well let's be fair. Iron warriors are group that think "if this benefit to us and it works then we cool with that, no matter how messed up it's" so they just turn a blind eyes on it since it does give new recruits to the 4th legion by C.D. before urial and bazanius with adders marryband of exile astartes destroyed it and hon su now was after their asses.
@@justwannabehappy6735 Techinally He's A Half Breed, Half IW And Half IF.
Fuck the imperium, fuck chaos, ave dominus nox
.................................CRINGE.
BRUH
Iron within. Iron without.
Ave Domine Noctis!
@@justwannabehappy6735
Wait, Night Lords have anything that can be called a leader? I thought part of the ongoing narrative is that only Decimus or even Sevatar would be able to unite the legion to turn it into an effective fighting force.
49 seconds lmaooo my Iron warriors and Night lords craving are sated
Hang on just a second here....
Night Lord: "We hate Chaos! We're not corrupted, Isn't that right, Gendor Skriavok?"
Gendor: "My Daemon Blade sent me to Hell for 10,000 years! AAAAAAAAH!"
Night Lord: "Okay, bad choice. What about you, Vandred Anrathi?"
Vandred: *Turns it's hideously deformed face*, "I AM THE EXALTED OF TZEENTCH."
Nightlord, "Uh, nevermind."
Iron warrior counter point: "night lord warp talons"
@@justwannabehappy6735Warbands don't count as a whole
@@justwannabehappy6735 NL are corrupted but they aren't happy about it. Lore wise they tend to look down heavily on anyone who is, even Warp Talons. And they definitely do not like a Daemon Prince leading them, but they will accept it until someone stronger takes them out. It's how they are, they are flawed to a T.
@@justwannabehappy6735 Whilst that may be the case within that novel it isn't "literally untrue".
The NL Omnibus has them looked at in disgust. So it is entirely warband dependant.
@@justwannabehappy6735 can you write anything else? I've seen this comment 10 times in here already 😂
@@justwannabehappy6735 cringe
Had the perfect opportunity to quote Brooklyn 99. “Oh! This is a very frustrating conversation!”
The forgefiend can have a little salami. As a treat
liking the vid and sharing the link just to make sure you grow like you deserve, Iron Within
No one tell the Night Lord that the biggest warband for his legion is led by a Daemon Prince
Ayyy guardsmen cameo
We prefer the term, “chaos assisted.”
The difference is the demon gets a new cool mechanical body but has to work for the creator while the other legions tend to just do stuff for the gods for power or just let a demon in and control them
I think being shoved into an engine for an undetermined amount of time sucks a lot for the deamon, thereby it is fine because you are still harming chaos in a way
we need more of this, we really do. This is just funny!
The truly ironic point is that those chaos chaps just displayed more self-consciousness, autocriticism and simple honesty in two minutes than the whole imperium in ten millenia
Bruh! I haven't laughed this hard since TTS! Please keep making shit!
0:37 Lives in my head rent free
Cringe
0:15 I don’t think a Night Lord would even object that much. Like sure they’ll complain and threaten to skin you, but probably not any more than usual?
He wasn't kidding
I could watch and listen to these 2 chaos bois for hours
"We prefer the term chaos assisted"
Night Lords: "Shit we should have called ourselves Renegade instead"
Iron warriors: "we use chaos, chaos doesn't use us. We will never bow to the whims of any otherworldly entities."
Chaos: "Uh huh. So how's your primarch doing?"
Glad you upload oftenly , love your content.
This one of the best series ever, please keep them coming
the gentle "oh yeah" at the end
Fantastic as usual, I love these conversations
i fucking love this channel so much
Dude, holy shit man, I'm crying laughing here, mad props on the writing and delivery, that was truly excellent
These are great man! Awesome! Keep it up
Please don't ever stop making these, I got scared for a second there.
There's a difference here:
Hear me out.
It's like the difference between taming a horse and fucking a horse.
One is basically a living tool you use for something. As well as showing dominance to something that would otherwise not want to be tamed and broken to your will.
The other one requires you to be the bottom in a situation where you shouldn't bottom or even be in in the first place, it's such an unfathomably stupid idea.
love the voice acting its very good. good work as always
I suppose a little chaos corrupted is much better than heavily chaos corrupted... Right, guys? Guys?
I NEEDED THIS LAUGH TODAY
These two characters are amazing hahhaha want to see more of them
You always put a smile on my face dude.
Oh my Emperor I love your content dude pls keep up the great work
Nice to start my day with laughter and coffee. Instead of grumbling and coffee.
Imagine if they ever see a Lord Discordant of Word Bearers. It would be funny.
TANKS !!!!!!!
A guardsman after my own heart
Meanwhile at Reddit:
"Imperial Fists sucks!"
"Iron Warriors are obsolete!"
Everything is that deep lmao
“It doesn’t count when we do it.”
Didn’t the iron warrior subreddit have a “civil war” on whether the legion is chaos corrupted or not?
do recall that demons don't WANT to be in demon engines and it is actively horrific for them
Iron Warriors being petty, bitter and childish to the extreme. Well, that tracks
Can’t be corrupted by chaos if you already skinned children before you became traitors
"This is hands down the worst conversation I've ever had."
two of my favorite legions hating stuff together i love these videos lol
Iron Warriors are so anti-chaos they take demons and trap them in machines.
00:09 LoL, I didn’t expect that one
''you corrupt your vehicles with daemons!''
''nuh uh''
If thousand sons won't just stay MENACINGLY and be silent it will be such a loss
"Chaos Assisted", im dead lol
You think the Iron Warrior would've elaborated his point a bit better.
00:30 LMAO FUNNYIST THING A CHAOS SPACE MARINE HAS EVER SAID 🤣
fucking love the iron warrior banther xD this is great!
Listen if i put a rat inside a wheel to power up a tank, thats animal cruelty for starters, BUT when you do that with a demon, is corrupted then? Sounds like an excuse to point the finger and say "those guys are definetly corrupted"
This is right here is a person who is going places 👆.
Can the voice of the Iron Warrior say "I am surrounded by fear... And dead men" pleeeease?
The 20 feet pit bull named cupcake who don't bite, it's fine.
When you see an Iron warrior you thought it was Iron hand but no...
One is Cyber space marine
The other is Devil machinery marine
Manus & Perturabo are opposite
The question is it OSHA certified.
It's not chaos corrupted! It's chaos assisted
WHEN DO I CHARGE THE STAGE?!
You don’t and never will
@Warmaster2001 ITS WEDNESDAY TODAAAAY YEEEEAAAAQHHHHHHHHH *charges the stage*
Dude your videos remind me of the discussions with my friend who is a fan of the night lords 😂😂😂😂
the pile of skulls in the background 😆
My sons and nephews continue to disappoint me even after 10k years. That's a fucking accomplishment now that I think about it....
“Technically” it’s Heretic Astartes … *ducks thrown object*
Hmm...what type of Daemon do they put into each type of engine?
The bigger ones need greater deamons, but where is the line?
Do forgefiends have lesser daemons? Or do they have the daemonic beasts of a god, like flesh hounds or screamers?
Night lords are way more into Chaos corruption than the Iron Warriors. It's one thing to allow mutation to fuse you with your weapons and jump packs (like raptors), it's another to enslave a Daemon and use it's suffering as fuel for your tanks.
Funny you mentioned fusing with weapons. What about obliterators? And daemonculaba? IW are as currupted as as any other traitor legion, just like night lords.
Stop getting lore from memes iron warriors worship chaos it’s says it in the codex they’re just less devout not less corrupt
Well...How about littel meeting with Sons of Malice? This will be interesing.
I agree
On a moment i think that in room "shred" Warp Talon (you know, first warp talons is NL possesed raptors) but oh well, forgefiend is enough i guess.
He is “skinning children guy” and while showing daemon into machine to enslave them is technically not liking chaos, those are basically walking radiation hazards of chaos meaning being around them definitely corrupts you. That and, you know, literal centuries in chaos’ Chernobyl that is eye of terror.
Yes they definitely use Chaos as a tool, despite that they do exactly what Chaos Gods want them to do.
Petitioning for another world eater Wednesday
NL most based legion once again.
The win goes to the child skinners yet again
Can have a little chaos, as a treat
bro is back
🦇💙AVE DOMINUS NOX💙🦇
These are epic !!!! 😂😂😂