I tried Golf tec series 2xs. Spent alot of money and practiced daily. I ended up totally confused about the golf swing and ended up with injuries that made me give up golf for a couple yrs. When I returned to golf, I went to the Manuel de la Torre methodology and never looked back. I found a master teacher at the Hodges Golf Center in Escondido, CA; Gary Sowinski. Now at 65 yrs old, I can outdrive most men from the white tees.... but most importantly, I understand the swing, I am a consistent swinger of the club and I am injury-free. Now I know I can play into my 80's if I want to.
I just finished up a 16 lesson, six month, GolfTec training program. I as able to add 15 yards to my irons and get my driver out to 250 from about 180. I'm still working on swing path and correcting my slice. I did get great instruction and there were a lot of a-ha moments that helped me move forward.
I’m new to your channel so I haven’t seen more than two videos. However I took Golftec lessons for two years and overall I came away disappointed.My instructor was experienced and motivated. I think he could have helped me more if we had forgone the harness and the numbers game. Not that it’s unimportant, but for me, I had so much bad swing baggage I would have been better off spending the first ten lessons in the impact zone so my nervous system could adapt to an inside approach, shaft lean, hip sway. When I got into transition with a ball on the ground I was destined to “hit” from the top, making me steep and OTT. Breaking out of that has been a challenge but I’ve improved to the point where I probably could benefit from Golftec.
Hey great video I finally went to Golf Tec and. Yes it took time to implement the changes and get rid of all the bad habits I had acquired in my motions but now after working in drill and finding the right triggers and feels I am seeing great results and ball flights due to great contact. But yes it takes time and patience but when you see the evidence just like every other game play their are some rules have to follow to be consistent and be able to score low! Thanks for sharing
I enjoyed this GolfTec series, Chad. For a beginner like me, it’s been good because when you’re at home alone working in your garage and not getting the results “you feel” it’s easy to become discouraged. I keep reminding myself about what you said about “exaggerating the feel” - and during those times “…you will hit some bad shots..” so I’ve kept that in mind during my times of struggle. It’s humbling, but I’ve seen a lot of growth. Thanks again for this series and like all things - I’m learning it takes time.
Great to hear, and much appreciated. I think that no matter what level of golf we hit, it's always going to be hard, and even if we were shooting 6 under, we'd still have disappointments and gripes.
Tom Watson said the advantage for today’s player is video, where they can actually see where feel isn’t real, most of us amateurs feel something when we hit a great shot then try and repeat that feeling, but without getting to see what happened when we felt that, we can’t repeat it very often. You were able to see where you felt like you were changing something that wasn’t changing, then finds tools to correct it, really happy you got to that point. Can’t wait to see it on the course
Thanks, Jim. I wonder sometimes if I should stop watching myself on video, haha. I feel like there are plenty of times it has caused me undue stress and an urge to change what ain't broke. The old greats used to just watch ball flight to teach themselves.
@@GolfTestDummy you’re probably right, most of us when we make a change and hit it well we’re pumped up, but then if we’re really struggling on the course we go back to what felt more natural. The game is just hard, but we always wanna believe we can find that one thing where we won’t struggle, and the game laughs at us while we’re searching for it.
Great video! Really looking forward to how this works out on the golf course for you. Totally agree with you on how YOUR backswing prepares you for YOUR downswing. Since we are all different physically, there will be differences in how we swing. If your GOLFTEC instructor can work with you in that regard, yes, this will be worth it for you.
Thanks a bunch. I think there is inevitably a period for most people in the beginning that is a "feeling and testing" experiment, and some puzzles are tougher than others.
Question I'm new to your TH-cam videos. First one I watched was your review of Marcus. At that point you were hitting the same distance as you are now. And you did it with a few swings. So was golf tech really worth it?
Following you for a while and like you I have experimented Vanuto Seguto and Golftec. Presently have an excellent instructor who goes right to the fix for me. Now I would like you to do a series with a speed coach. You are easily capable of 100-105 mph swing speed.
I went through speed training last year, I believe, and filmed some of it. The only issue I've found with speed training is that you have to keep doing it, or you will slide right back down the mountain. But, I'll also say this; The last few weeks, working on this swing, my speed is ticking up. Getting over 140 ball speed is a very common occurrence now, and hopefully, I'll be scaring 150 soon.
Nice debriefing on the series. I would just say one thing about the how you come down being the important thing assertion. I agree completely up to a point. The thing is that we swing on average low to high in terms of arm motion and then high to low in the downswing and back to low to high in the followthrough. The last part of the swing (low to high) is happening while the body is opening and lead side of the upper body is rising, so in other words there is a challenge involved in keeping the club low enough through impact. This means that there is an advantage to moving the club more from high to low in the downswing (i.e. some form of looping) since it facilitates keeping the club low through impact and there is a tangential acceleration of the clubhead the occurs through the narrowing of the swing arc onto the correct plane (as with a whip). Therefore, not all on plane approaches to the ball are created equal and some are indeed way superior to others in terms or potential clubhead speed. However, you are correct in saying that all on plane approaches will produce good impacts. The thing is that, for your case, looping in a multi-plane swing is generally going to involve more wrist dynamics and most likely more TWE. The exception would be, if one keeps the address shaft plane close as to perpendicular to the spine angle as possible and keeps the swing arc as circular around the spine as possible. In that case, some looping of the shaft could be achieved with significantly lower TWE and lower total wrist dynamics in general. The one thing that is hard to remove from the swing and still augment power through the wrists is radial deviation. If radial deviation is a challenge with either wrist (but especially the TW) then a significant power limitation is pretty much unalterable.. One last thought, a lot of people fight getting the club around them when they are trying to produce clubhead speed, especially with longer clubs like the driver. This can happen because of strength deficits but can also happen because of misunderstandings about what produces power in the golf swing. People also struggle less with this kind of thing when the swing plane is more vertical and the club is shorter because there is less apparent need to get the club around the body. So often people are trying to get the lead shoulder around the body as fast as possible which often works better with steep planes and shorter clubs. The thing about this is that with both longer and shorter clubs, this is the incorrect approach and concept. Think about how top swing coaches often demonstrate the motion of the swing with the arms kind of forcefully extended down in front of their bodies. This is because that's exactly what one should be trying to do in order to produce power. The reason for this is that if the shoulders and arms do not stay low enough through the bottom half of the swing, the power of the arm swing becomes disconnected from the motion of the turn and a lot of leverage is lost due to discontinuity of power buildup. This is why a swing can look smooth and even easy and produce a lot of power, because the swing is moving up through the "gear box" of speed seamlessly with minimal power leakage. All this to explain, that if the shoulders (especially the lead one) and lead arm do not get low enough to provide continuity in the transmission of power to the club, much of the power of rotation into impact is lost even though it might FEEL like we can move the club faster if we don't do this lowering. However, speeding up the lead shoulder is very inefficient unless it's happening on the right plane in conjunction with our turn. In reality, you almost can't get the lead shoulder and lead arm too low in the early downswing and if you do this you will find that in order to feel like you're moving the club faster you will have to feel as though the dynamics of weight shift and hip turn have to happen faster and take more energy to produce speed. This is exactly what you want and shows that you have connected the speed of the clubhead to the motion of the lower and upper body. Cheers.
Whew. I'm betting that if I took all of your comments from all of my videos, we'd be several chapters into the book by now, haha. I'm not sure how what I'm about to say feathers in with what you're saying here, because it may not at all, but, it likely does. In my attempt to make my lower body a bit more "stable", and also get my swing length under control, AND ALSO, gain more leverage and speed, I've been doing a few things, that I think are working well. Keep my butt back come hell or high water. That's 1. A "feel" for me of a locked lower body on the way back to coil up. A "feel" of the clubface constantly facing the ball throughout the backswing and impact. And feel that there is no upper hemisphere to my swing at all. Like the club always stays in front of me, but never goes above or behind me.
@@GolfTestDummy Well, they all sound good and like they are helping you keep what's happening in your shoulders and arms well-connected to what's happening in your turn. I would just say that it looks to me like you are still getting your lead shoulder around a little ahead of your downswing rotation and then losing a bit of spine angle and having to throw the club around your body somewhat. The solution to that is what I was talking about. Try to keep you lead shoulder and the lead arm as low as you can for as long as you can through your downswing turn (beyond impact) remembering that your head has to stay behind the ball for good contact. This helps synch up the club motion with your rotation and helps get a longer more efficient (powerful) release of the club. Cheers.
@@GolfTestDummy With regard to the keeping lead shoulder and arm low for power transmission, this video is great in general for downswing sequencing issues: "You Won't Believe How Easy This ONE Move Makes The Golf Swing". Your particular issue is covered the most closely by the segment at 7:04 and his fix is also one that works well, which is to keep the lead side down and low through the early and mid downswing. But this video has some all around great information and drills for great ball striking and power production. Hope it helps. Cheers.
I’ve been an upper core/arm swinger (Wright Balance) for years with mixed results. Using your GolfTec lessons, I’ve begun to fire the lower body first and am now hitting the ball further with much less effort due to improved sequencing. For years, I thought this type of swing was reserved for someone with Dustin Johnson’s flexibility. Not so! At my age, I get as much joy out of learning new theories about the golf swing as I do shooting a low score. For me, it really is about the journey. Thanks!
Man, that's absolutely awesome. So glad to hear. I'll tell you this as well; ANYTHING new we try to do as we get older may cause some soreness, but in my experience, once you get past that phase, your body adjusts.
My experience reflects yours. I had some decent success following an upper core model, but always felt I had more yards in the tank. Between Chad’s GolfTec series and a discount offer from Spark Golf, I signed up for a lesson + practice plan last month. Wish I had done it years ago. All the things I thought I couldn’t/shouldn’t do have proven to be within my grasp.
Focus on the very core of the golfswing in the backswing & downswing. That would be the spine . Spine being from vertebra c7 down to the sacrum. Yes many other things are important but focusing on this is not only necessary but will solve many issues. The sternal notch " C7 " can move vertically but never laterally. The sacrum must move in a very certain manner and never closer to the ball. Focus on how the scapulas are positioned at address and how they rotate around the spine. I know you can master this Chad because you are total awesomeness. The "struggle" you referred to is the journey enjoy it.
Many thanks for the confidence. I'm working on keeping the butt (sacrum) back the whole time, which is tough mentally at first, until you start feeling that power will be there in time. And I'm really working on a stable lower body, with a swing that stays in front of me, not behind me.
Always enjoy your content. Your hitting it well ATM so let's see how that goes. Also, a ripper shirt today, I'm shopping for that colour. Good golfing 😊
I've been taking lessons at my local Golftec for a year now. THis is my first experience with Golftec. My Handicap has fallen from 31.8 to 23.2 and my average score fell from around 110 to 98.2. I struggle with some of the positions (specifically my shaft angle at hands parrallel in the downswing, I tend to cast the club from the top), but overall, I've loved my instructor and the process. If I could afford to renew, I would definietly do so; unfortuately, we were informned our common charges would be increasing due to a homeowners insurance premium increase, so the money I had for golf lessons is now gone.
Very sorry to hear about the insurance going up. Unfortunately, if it's not one thing it's another. Great to hear about the progress though, and it sounds like you know where you can improve.
Well everything is relative. I don't play regularly sure to work, so I'm playing less than one a week. Furthermore, I'm 60 years old and don't hit it far at all. Lastly, I was a baseball player, so I've always battled a slice. Just the fact that they got me to hit it relatively straight, or with a slight draw is an an accomplishment. But thanks for denigrating my progress. I hope it makes you feel better about yourself
@@GrumpyGolf4 my point is Golftec doesn’t seem to be working, at what point are they going to be honest with you, something’s not working but I’m sure they’re happy to take your money.
Great video, Chad. Golf is not a game of perfection, even the Tour Pros aren’t perfect - nobody is. Whether you’re over or under the plane is really irrelevant if you can square the club face and strike the ball in or near the sweet spot. Like you said, the most important part of the swing is the 3 feet before and after impact. How you get there is not very important, ask Jim Fuyrk, Matt Woolf, Arnold Palmer, Lee Trevino, or Victoria Hovland, and many others. Concentrating solely on positions and technique will not result in a good swing. What we all should be concentrating on is how our unique swings work best for us at getting to good, not perfect, impact and combining that with speed, and nothing else. All of those different swing theories in your head really screwed up your swing. Golf is hard enough worrying about one. Cheers.
Thanks. Yeah, it's a constant effort, for anybody game, and yes, arriving at the ball correctly is important, but how you set up to deliver that can vary.
What's so infuriating with this game is you could have a great drive with a 140ish yard shot to the green and you duff it or you may put it on the green and then have a three putt. What keeps me going back is I may hit 4 bad shots but the 5th is perfect or sinking the 25 foot putt that breaks 3 times for par or bogie.
Golftec was painful initially. I stuck to it and the lessons began to click. After 18 months i found my strikes to be more consistent, accurate and longer. I realized, from these lessons, there are no quick fixes in golf. All the weekend pros who know so much about a swing that they must absolutely share with you will never fix your swing or lower your handicap. Real improvement takes both work and time. You have to be willing to hit lots of god awful shots to get better.
Sorry to hear that. I got a bit of a theory, a loose one, that golf instruction as a whole is more art than science. Yes; You can measure and examine using science, sure. But to teach it or help someone make progress, is much more art than math.
Time to tee it up ! It will take time for things to click . Play golf when your on the course. If things get sideways don't play golf swing . Work on it after the round .
I was supposed to be playing today, but a nice little tropical storm had other plans. The ground here is soaked from 48 hours of wind and downpours. Next weekend I'm taking my wife camping, haha. So... might be a bit.
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Watched the whole series yesterday as well as your jvga series. I think golftec is good but the methodology is flawed. Comparing average Joes to pros is not going to work in the long run. As you found yourself getting itto a position where tou are 40 degrees open at impact is pretty difficult. Re distance loss, i watched your jvga series from the beginning of your channel and you say you were hitting the fence at 273yds with driver with that swing. It seems as if your max distance now is around 250. Can you comment on this? Great channel and congrats on getting to 10k subscribers from the UK
Thanks, Jim, and I'd agree with everything you said. Pretty good points. My distance loss.... ugh, I just don't have much speed. My wrists are garbage, and feels like I've got sand grinding inside them, so I'm just not what I used to be, haha.
@@GolfTestDummy lol. I think you have more speed than you think. 93 mph with a driver is pretty decent. I'm only a little over that myself. If you can pipe it 240 down the middle each time then that's good enough for the vast majority of courses. I thought I was pretty slow until a fitter I saw said my 7 iron speed was pretty much the same as the lpga average at 78mph. Shocked me to be honest. On a good day I can get up to 80 with the 7 and 100 with driver but that's pushing it . I reckon that a good short game is much more important to scoring than hitting it a long way
It wasn't in the latest video, and I honestly can't remember which ones, but there were two where he was mentioning my wrists, and it may be in videos 7 and 8, around those episodes.
@@GolfTestDummy Check out Dr. Shawn, Dr. Berg and a ton on you tube. Cost is not out of reach. Check salad costs. Milk, eggs, meat. Some add some low starch veggies like broccoli, Lima beans, etc. But try and stick to it for at least a month. SUGAR is a killer and just fuels inflammation. Bread, pasta are no no’s. If this is too hard, try keto. It was a game changer for me. Btw, still working on channel lock. Bayou golf Steve is a good friend. Keep up your good work which is always interesting. Been following you since the start.
Ha! Been thinking on this for weeks now. The truth? I have no idea. Without knowing it, I've painted myself into a bit of a corner. The reason I say that is because I've got a lot invested in this, and it's starting to bear fruit finally, and I haven't hit the end of what I believe is my potential, so I'm really not interested in blowing everything up and starting over AGAIN. I think I'm going to make some course vlogs, play more often, but still share discoveries and practice in the lab. At least for a while.
@@GolfTestDummy sounds like a good plan for your golf👍 But your channel may have to change a bit..... As for the other stuff you have tried....what have you found the easiest?....for me it's Rightsidded....but I've always done my swings with instruction...I've never tried doing it on my own Still enjoying your journey....whatever you do
I've asked about that myself. The response I have gotten from a few sources is that some of the coaches actually do teach SNT, but for those that don't, some of the things they teach still line up with SNT.
I think a lot of golfers are of that mindset, but believe me, I've dipped my toe in a lot of "magic pools" out there, and I have yet to find anything that can instantly and permanently fix a golf swing.
If you expect this you are just going to get a band aid....I've done this for years....the best golf I played in my life in terms of consistent good golf have been when I followed a method...first was stack n Tilt...which I stopped because of injury....then I went off and got lost for a while....now I'm back with the Rightsidded golf....my instructor told me at the start 6 months to change my swing.....and he was pretty close...it was about 5 month of small improvements and getting comfortable with the new feelings.... Personally I'm going to stay on the long term change ...I'm fed up with band aids
its crazy when my swing goes out of control, I hit a reset, I take off for 2 weeks and not pick up a club and its like rebooting a computer. works almost every time. But awesome props for you for going this long with GT. The Instructor player relationship has to click for this to work. looks like yours has. With me I did not have that all 3 times. so made me less motivated to continue considering its not a cheap way to go.
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I tried Golf tec series 2xs. Spent alot of money and practiced daily. I ended up totally confused about the golf swing and ended up with injuries that made me give up golf for a couple yrs. When I returned to golf, I went to the Manuel de la Torre methodology and never looked back. I found a master teacher at the Hodges Golf Center in Escondido, CA; Gary Sowinski. Now at 65 yrs old, I can outdrive most men from the white tees.... but most importantly, I understand the swing, I am a consistent swinger of the club and I am injury-free. Now I know I can play into my 80's if I want to.
I just finished up a 16 lesson, six month, GolfTec training program. I as able to add 15 yards to my irons and get my driver out to 250 from about 180. I'm still working on swing path and correcting my slice. I did get great instruction and there were a lot of a-ha moments that helped me move forward.
I’m new to your channel so I haven’t seen more than two videos. However I took Golftec lessons for two years and overall I came away disappointed.My instructor was experienced and motivated. I think he could have helped me more if we had forgone the harness and the numbers game. Not that it’s unimportant, but for me, I had so much bad swing baggage I would have been better off spending the first ten lessons in the impact zone so my nervous system could adapt to an inside approach, shaft lean, hip sway. When I got into transition with a ball on the ground I was destined to “hit” from the top, making me steep and OTT. Breaking out of that has been a challenge but I’ve improved to the point where I probably could benefit from Golftec.
Hey great video I finally went to Golf Tec and. Yes it took time to implement the changes and get rid of all the bad habits I had acquired in my motions but now after working in drill and finding the right triggers and feels I am seeing great results and ball flights due to great contact. But yes it takes time and patience but when you see the evidence just like every other game play their are some rules have to follow to be consistent and be able to score low! Thanks for sharing
I enjoyed this GolfTec series, Chad. For a beginner like me, it’s been good because when you’re at home alone working in your garage and not getting the results “you feel” it’s easy to become discouraged. I keep reminding myself about what you said about “exaggerating the feel” - and during those times “…you will hit some bad shots..” so I’ve kept that in mind during my times of struggle. It’s humbling, but I’ve seen a lot of growth. Thanks again for this series and like all things - I’m learning it takes time.
Great to hear, and much appreciated. I think that no matter what level of golf we hit, it's always going to be hard, and even if we were shooting 6 under, we'd still have disappointments and gripes.
Tom Watson said the advantage for today’s player is video, where they can actually see where feel isn’t real, most of us amateurs feel something when we hit a great shot then try and repeat that feeling, but without getting to see what happened when we felt that, we can’t repeat it very often.
You were able to see where you felt like you were changing something that wasn’t changing, then finds tools to correct it, really happy you got to that point. Can’t wait to see it on the course
Thanks, Jim. I wonder sometimes if I should stop watching myself on video, haha. I feel like there are plenty of times it has caused me undue stress and an urge to change what ain't broke. The old greats used to just watch ball flight to teach themselves.
@@GolfTestDummy you’re probably right, most of us when we make a change and hit it well we’re pumped up, but then if we’re really struggling on the course we go back to what felt more natural. The game is just hard, but we always wanna believe we can find that one thing where we won’t struggle, and the game laughs at us while we’re searching for it.
Great video! Really looking forward to how this works out on the golf course for you. Totally agree with you on how YOUR backswing prepares you for YOUR downswing. Since we are all different physically, there will be differences in how we swing. If your GOLFTEC instructor can work with you in that regard, yes, this will be worth it for you.
Thanks a bunch. I think there is inevitably a period for most people in the beginning that is a "feeling and testing" experiment, and some puzzles are tougher than others.
Question I'm new to your TH-cam videos. First one I watched was your review of Marcus. At that point you were hitting the same distance as you are now. And you did it with a few swings. So was golf tech really worth it?
Following you for a while and like you I have experimented Vanuto Seguto and Golftec. Presently have an excellent instructor who goes right to the fix for me. Now I would like you to do a series with a speed coach. You are easily capable of 100-105 mph swing speed.
I went through speed training last year, I believe, and filmed some of it. The only issue I've found with speed training is that you have to keep doing it, or you will slide right back down the mountain. But, I'll also say this; The last few weeks, working on this swing, my speed is ticking up. Getting over 140 ball speed is a very common occurrence now, and hopefully, I'll be scaring 150 soon.
Nice debriefing on the series. I would just say one thing about the how you come down being the important thing assertion. I agree completely up to a point. The thing is that we swing on average low to high in terms of arm motion and then high to low in the downswing and back to low to high in the followthrough. The last part of the swing (low to high) is happening while the body is opening and lead side of the upper body is rising, so in other words there is a challenge involved in keeping the club low enough through impact.
This means that there is an advantage to moving the club more from high to low in the downswing (i.e. some form of looping) since it facilitates keeping the club low through impact and there is a tangential acceleration of the clubhead the occurs through the narrowing of the swing arc onto the correct plane (as with a whip). Therefore, not all on plane approaches to the ball are created equal and some are indeed way superior to others in terms or potential clubhead speed. However, you are correct in saying that all on plane approaches will produce good impacts.
The thing is that, for your case, looping in a multi-plane swing is generally going to involve more wrist dynamics and most likely more TWE. The exception would be, if one keeps the address shaft plane close as to perpendicular to the spine angle as possible and keeps the swing arc as circular around the spine as possible. In that case, some looping of the shaft could be achieved with significantly lower TWE and lower total wrist dynamics in general. The one thing that is hard to remove from the swing and still augment power through the wrists is radial deviation. If radial deviation is a challenge with either wrist (but especially the TW) then a significant power limitation is pretty much unalterable..
One last thought, a lot of people fight getting the club around them when they are trying to produce clubhead speed, especially with longer clubs like the driver. This can happen because of strength deficits but can also happen because of misunderstandings about what produces power in the golf swing. People also struggle less with this kind of thing when the swing plane is more vertical and the club is shorter because there is less apparent need to get the club around the body. So often people are trying to get the lead shoulder around the body as fast as possible which often works better with steep planes and shorter clubs.
The thing about this is that with both longer and shorter clubs, this is the incorrect approach and concept. Think about how top swing coaches often demonstrate the motion of the swing with the arms kind of forcefully extended down in front of their bodies. This is because that's exactly what one should be trying to do in order to produce power. The reason for this is that if the shoulders and arms do not stay low enough through the bottom half of the swing, the power of the arm swing becomes disconnected from the motion of the turn and a lot of leverage is lost due to discontinuity of power buildup. This is why a swing can look smooth and even easy and produce a lot of power, because the swing is moving up through the "gear box" of speed seamlessly with minimal power leakage.
All this to explain, that if the shoulders (especially the lead one) and lead arm do not get low enough to provide continuity in the transmission of power to the club, much of the power of rotation into impact is lost even though it might FEEL like we can move the club faster if we don't do this lowering. However, speeding up the lead shoulder is very inefficient unless it's happening on the right plane in conjunction with our turn. In reality, you almost can't get the lead shoulder and lead arm too low in the early downswing and if you do this you will find that in order to feel like you're moving the club faster you will have to feel as though the dynamics of weight shift and hip turn have to happen faster and take more energy to produce speed. This is exactly what you want and shows that you have connected the speed of the clubhead to the motion of the lower and upper body. Cheers.
Whew. I'm betting that if I took all of your comments from all of my videos, we'd be several chapters into the book by now, haha.
I'm not sure how what I'm about to say feathers in with what you're saying here, because it may not at all, but, it likely does. In my attempt to make my lower body a bit more "stable", and also get my swing length under control, AND ALSO, gain more leverage and speed, I've been doing a few things, that I think are working well.
Keep my butt back come hell or high water. That's 1. A "feel" for me of a locked lower body on the way back to coil up. A "feel" of the clubface constantly facing the ball throughout the backswing and impact. And feel that there is no upper hemisphere to my swing at all. Like the club always stays in front of me, but never goes above or behind me.
@@GolfTestDummy Well, they all sound good and like they are helping you keep what's happening in your shoulders and arms well-connected to what's happening in your turn. I would just say that it looks to me like you are still getting your lead shoulder around a little ahead of your downswing rotation and then losing a bit of spine angle and having to throw the club around your body somewhat.
The solution to that is what I was talking about. Try to keep you lead shoulder and the lead arm as low as you can for as long as you can through your downswing turn (beyond impact) remembering that your head has to stay behind the ball for good contact. This helps synch up the club motion with your rotation and helps get a longer more efficient (powerful) release of the club. Cheers.
@@GolfTestDummy And just to be clear, I was mainly talking about your driver in that last comment although the idea is good for any club. Cheers.
@@GolfTestDummy With regard to the keeping lead shoulder and arm low for power transmission, this video is great in general for downswing sequencing issues: "You Won't Believe How Easy This ONE Move Makes The Golf Swing". Your particular issue is covered the most closely by the segment at 7:04 and his fix is also one that works well, which is to keep the lead side down and low through the early and mid downswing. But this video has some all around great information and drills for great ball striking and power production. Hope it helps. Cheers.
I’ve been an upper core/arm swinger (Wright Balance) for years with mixed results. Using your GolfTec lessons, I’ve begun to fire the lower body first and am now hitting the ball further with much less effort due to improved sequencing. For years, I thought this type of swing was reserved for someone with Dustin Johnson’s flexibility. Not so!
At my age, I get as much joy out of learning new theories about the golf swing as I do shooting a low score. For me, it really is about the journey. Thanks!
Man, that's absolutely awesome. So glad to hear. I'll tell you this as well; ANYTHING new we try to do as we get older may cause some soreness, but in my experience, once you get past that phase, your body adjusts.
My experience reflects yours. I had some decent success following an upper core model, but always felt I had more yards in the tank. Between Chad’s GolfTec series and a discount offer from Spark Golf, I signed up for a lesson + practice plan last month. Wish I had done it years ago. All the things I thought I couldn’t/shouldn’t do have proven to be within my grasp.
Focus on the very core of the golfswing in the backswing & downswing. That would be the spine . Spine being from vertebra c7 down to the sacrum. Yes many other things are important but focusing on this is not only necessary but will solve many issues. The sternal notch " C7 " can move vertically but never laterally. The sacrum must move in a very certain manner and never closer to the ball. Focus on how the scapulas are positioned at address and how they rotate around the spine. I know you can master this Chad because you are total awesomeness. The "struggle" you referred to is the journey enjoy it.
Many thanks for the confidence. I'm working on keeping the butt (sacrum) back the whole time, which is tough mentally at first, until you start feeling that power will be there in time. And I'm really working on a stable lower body, with a swing that stays in front of me, not behind me.
Always enjoy your content. Your hitting it well ATM so let's see how that goes.
Also, a ripper shirt today, I'm shopping for that colour.
Good golfing 😊
There's another comment about the shirt. Check that out for a link, and use my Amazon link.
I've been taking lessons at my local Golftec for a year now. THis is my first experience with Golftec. My Handicap has fallen from 31.8 to 23.2 and my average score fell from around 110 to 98.2. I struggle with some of the positions (specifically my shaft angle at hands parrallel in the downswing, I tend to cast the club from the top), but overall, I've loved my instructor and the process. If I could afford to renew, I would definietly do so; unfortuately, we were informned our common charges would be increasing due to a homeowners insurance premium increase, so the money I had for golf lessons is now gone.
Very sorry to hear about the insurance going up. Unfortunately, if it's not one thing it's another. Great to hear about the progress though, and it sounds like you know where you can improve.
A year and still barely breaking 100, you better think about that.
Well everything is relative. I don't play regularly sure to work, so I'm playing less than one a week. Furthermore, I'm 60 years old and don't hit it far at all. Lastly, I was a baseball player, so I've always battled a slice. Just the fact that they got me to hit it relatively straight, or with a slight draw is an an accomplishment.
But thanks for denigrating my progress. I hope it makes you feel better about yourself
@@GrumpyGolf4 my point is Golftec doesn’t seem to be working, at what point are they going to be honest with you, something’s not working but I’m sure they’re happy to take your money.
Great video, Chad. Golf is not a game of perfection, even the Tour Pros aren’t perfect - nobody is. Whether you’re over or under the plane is really irrelevant if you can square the club face and strike the ball in or near the sweet spot. Like you said, the most important part of the swing is the 3 feet before and after impact. How you get there is not very important, ask Jim Fuyrk, Matt Woolf, Arnold Palmer, Lee Trevino, or Victoria Hovland, and many others. Concentrating solely on positions and technique will not result in a good swing. What we all should be concentrating on is how our unique swings work best for us at getting to good, not perfect, impact and combining that with speed, and nothing else. All of those different swing theories in your head really screwed up your swing. Golf is hard enough worrying about one. Cheers.
Thanks. Yeah, it's a constant effort, for anybody game, and yes, arriving at the ball correctly is important, but how you set up to deliver that can vary.
Great info bud. Top video as always.
Doing my best! Haha, I might not have a video for next week. We're headed out of town.
What's so infuriating with this game is you could have a great drive with a 140ish yard shot to the green and you duff it or you may put it on the green and then have a three putt. What keeps me going back is I may hit 4 bad shots but the 5th is perfect or sinking the 25 foot putt that breaks 3 times for par or bogie.
I'll never master golf, I'm sure, but hopefully, with some work and diligence, golf won't master me either.
Golftec was painful initially. I stuck to it and the lessons began to click. After 18 months i found my strikes to be more consistent, accurate and longer. I realized, from these lessons, there are no quick fixes in golf. All the weekend pros who know so much about a swing that they must absolutely share with you will never fix your swing or lower your handicap. Real improvement takes both work and time. You have to be willing to hit lots of god awful shots to get better.
My GolfTec experience is that I did not get what I paid for, so, I cannot recommend it.
Sorry to hear that. I got a bit of a theory, a loose one, that golf instruction as a whole is more art than science. Yes; You can measure and examine using science, sure. But to teach it or help someone make progress, is much more art than math.
Time to tee it up ! It will take time for things to click . Play golf when your on the course. If things get sideways don't play golf swing . Work on it after the round .
I was supposed to be playing today, but a nice little tropical storm had other plans. The ground here is soaked from 48 hours of wind and downpours. Next weekend I'm taking my wife camping, haha. So... might be a bit.
Thanks Chad🏌️👍
You got it my man.
Good vid. Where can I buythat shirt ?? Any link?
Absolutely. They change the colors they offer from time to time, but here's the link. Go through my link when you pay to help me out, haha.
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@@GolfTestDummy Thanks !!!
How''re you doing my man? I hope that all is well with you and yours. Cheers.
Took my wife on a camping trip for her birthday. Nice little getaway.
@@GolfTestDummy Camping, love it! Glad all is well. Enjoy! Cheers.
Watched the whole series yesterday as well as your jvga series. I think golftec is good but the methodology is flawed. Comparing average Joes to pros is not going to work in the long run. As you found yourself getting itto a position where tou are 40 degrees open at impact is pretty difficult. Re distance loss, i watched your jvga series from the beginning of your channel and you say you were hitting the fence at 273yds with driver with that swing. It seems as if your max distance now is around 250. Can you comment on this? Great channel and congrats on getting to 10k subscribers from the UK
Thanks, Jim, and I'd agree with everything you said. Pretty good points. My distance loss.... ugh, I just don't have much speed. My wrists are garbage, and feels like I've got sand grinding inside them, so I'm just not what I used to be, haha.
@@GolfTestDummy lol. I think you have more speed than you think. 93 mph with a driver is pretty decent. I'm only a little over that myself. If you can pipe it 240 down the middle each time then that's good enough for the vast majority of courses. I thought I was pretty slow until a fitter I saw said my 7 iron speed was pretty much the same as the lpga average at 78mph. Shocked me to be honest. On a good day I can get up to 80 with the 7 and 100 with driver but that's pushing it . I reckon that a good short game is much more important to scoring than hitting it a long way
any chance you will review overhandgolf?
Well, he was on a couple of my videos giving me a couple tips, does that count? 😄
@@GolfTestDummy not really but what vids are you referring to ? THANK YOU
It wasn't in the latest video, and I honestly can't remember which ones, but there were two where he was mentioning my wrists, and it may be in videos 7 and 8, around those episodes.
Off topic tip. After a couple of weeks on carnivore diet my arthritis and joint soreness (inflammation) disappeared. I am 75 yo.
Fantastic! I've heard of that diet, but I've never tried it, or any other diet.
@@GolfTestDummy Check out Dr. Shawn, Dr. Berg and a ton on you tube. Cost is not out of reach. Check salad costs. Milk, eggs, meat. Some add some low starch veggies like broccoli, Lima beans, etc. But try and stick to it for at least a month. SUGAR is a killer and just fuels inflammation. Bread, pasta are no no’s. If this is too hard, try keto. It was a game changer for me. Btw, still working on channel lock. Bayou golf Steve is a good friend. Keep up your good work which is always interesting. Been following you since the start.
So where to next....or is this the end of trying different swings
Ha! Been thinking on this for weeks now. The truth? I have no idea. Without knowing it, I've painted myself into a bit of a corner. The reason I say that is because I've got a lot invested in this, and it's starting to bear fruit finally, and I haven't hit the end of what I believe is my potential, so I'm really not interested in blowing everything up and starting over AGAIN. I think I'm going to make some course vlogs, play more often, but still share discoveries and practice in the lab. At least for a while.
@@GolfTestDummy sounds like a good plan for your golf👍
But your channel may have to change a bit.....
As for the other stuff you have tried....what have you found the easiest?....for me it's Rightsidded....but I've always done my swings with instruction...I've never tried doing it on my own
Still enjoying your journey....whatever you do
I have seen many Golf-Tec lesson vids on YT. A lot of them were more stack and tilt. Some were not. This has confused me.
I've asked about that myself. The response I have gotten from a few sources is that some of the coaches actually do teach SNT, but for those that don't, some of the things they teach still line up with SNT.
@@GolfTestDummy Agreed. Now that you say that.
I just want instant results if I pay 140 each visit.
I think a lot of golfers are of that mindset, but believe me, I've dipped my toe in a lot of "magic pools" out there, and I have yet to find anything that can instantly and permanently fix a golf swing.
If you expect this you are just going to get a band aid....I've done this for years....the best golf I played in my life in terms of consistent good golf have been when I followed a method...first was stack n Tilt...which I stopped because of injury....then I went off and got lost for a while....now I'm back with the Rightsidded golf....my instructor told me at the start 6 months to change my swing.....and he was pretty close...it was about 5 month of small improvements and getting comfortable with the new feelings....
Personally I'm going to stay on the long term change ...I'm fed up with band aids
But you also have to try the unconventional method under someone's guidance also.
I didn't have guidance with all of them, but I did with Jim Venetos, Marcus Edblad, and Shawn Clement.
its crazy when my swing goes out of control, I hit a reset, I take off for 2 weeks and not pick up a club and its like rebooting a computer.
works almost every time. But awesome props for you for going this long with GT. The Instructor player relationship has to click for this to work.
looks like yours has.
With me I did not have that all 3 times. so made me less motivated to continue considering its not a cheap way to go.