Thank you very much for your kind words, but I'm far from a professional. I'm just a retired guy in a shed who is having the time of his life. If this mini-series of videos has helped you with a 2-sided project, then I've done my job. Thank you!
I just had an AH Ha moment on two-sided CNC routing. Your explanation on how to drill the index holes. It finally clicked. Thanks for your great videos. I have learned more from your videos than from any other source. Keep up the good work.
I am in the process of setting up my Onefinity X50 and whilst not new to CNCs (had Biesse point to point commercial machines in the late 80s) I am new to VCarve Pro which has a significant learning curve attached to it and having explored a number of the tutorial videos offered on TH-cam yours are head and shoulders above the other offerings in their pace and content. I include Vectric's tutorials in this as well. I will be working my way through your content and looking at your old "live" sessions which are hard to join from Aus. Thanks and hope you get as much out of making then as I do watching them.
Mark: Most excellent video. You're presentations are outstanding! Clear, concise, on point, and toned down so us newbies can easily understand! Please, keep the video's coming!
Kamani is absolutely glorious wood, and it carves beautifully. It was very hard to find when we lived there from 1994-1998. The Kamani I have came from a huge branch that blew out of a tree on our street during a storm. We lived on Oahu at Wheeler Airfield, and the whole length of our street was lined on both sides with Kamani trees. I wanted to score some Mango too, but couldn't get my hands on any. I wish I still lived there, as I know where the engineers at the airfield throw all of the trees they cut. They just pile them up to sit and rot away. If you have a saw mill and can get access to any of the military bases, you might talk to the engineers and see if you can get your hands on some of that wood that's salvageable. When we left the island, there was a huge amount there, ranging from entire trees that were toppled in storms to trees that needed to be removed for other reasons.
@@MarkLindsayCNC oh MAN!!! Good score. Excellent story behind it too. When I was stationed in Okinawa I shipped home a log of okinawa pine. Also scored a bunch of random hardwoods from east Africa And some olive wood from Cyprus. Collecting lumber on deployment. 🤷♂️
Perfect addition to the training videos that are on the Vectric site. Watching both the Vectric and Mark's videos are the way to go for anyone using the VCarve or Aspire software.
Thank you very much! I very much endorse Vectric's tutorials. They're the main way I learned to use the software. They have to cater to all skill levels, however, and can't take the time to break down the steps for folks who have never done this before, while I can. I've never tried to take the place of the Vectric tutorials - I'm just trying to augment them for the beginners.
Thank you for the 2 part series on 2-sided machining. I got more from your series than I did the Vectric LTD. series! Very informative and easy to follow!
Thanks for taking the time to teach us your wisdom. I've been wanting to learn how to do this for so long and now I believe I can do it easily. Well done as always Mark.
Hi Mark, greatings from germany. I'm happy to find your fantastic videotutorials. Your videos help me alot to set my ideas in the reality by using VCarve Desktop. There are very less german tutorials available. To see and to discover the options of the soft- and hardware is much better to understand for me, than to read the instructions. I use a Stepcraft 840/2 and i'm happy with it. Since 4 weeks i'm using this Vectric software. Before i did 2d-jobs to produce decoration things or gifts. Now it becomes an other quality. Thank you very much for your detailed explanations in all your videos. Keep it up. Greatings, Frank
Thank you very much! There are a couple of things you have to pay attention to, but it is actually easier than it first appears. Once you do a couple and get the hang of it, you'll wonder why it looked so intimidating.
I feel like i'm about to start binge watching your videos Mark! They take the fear out of CNC projects and so awesomely informative! I'm becoming a huge fan just can't grow a stash like that!
Great, I was able to watch before we left on our trip. You cleared up my problem understanding the dowels. I feel like I can do this now with no problems. Thank you.
It depends on the project and the material. Sometimes it's crucial to run a surfacing pass to make sure the material is nice and flat. In this case, I had already prepared the kamani wood beforehand, so it wasn't necessary.
Thank you, Joni! That's probably the #1 cause of confusion for folks trying two-sided machining for the first time, with the locating dowel placement running a very close 2nd. I hope it clears up any confusion. Thanks for checking it out!
Mark thank you again for another fine set of videos explaining how to do a two sided project. I don't have Aspire but you indicated this can be done in VCarve Pro so when I get started in the next day or two, I hope I can make it work like you did with vCarve. I think you covered most of what I will need to know with the exception I will need to make a small roundover at the top of a pocket. I am not quite sure how too do this, but I think it will require me to use a molding profile. I guess I will find out. Plan on looking at how you use the molding profile and see if I can apply to my project. Thanks again.
Good stuff, Mark. Great process lesson and project idea. I'm going to see if I can knock out a variety of these before our annual food and craft Christmas show. I think popular teas and herbs might do well - plus offer custom. Thanks!
Thank you, Jim. These lids were certainly NOT my idea, but I have to admit that I'm a bit surprised at how folks reacted to them. Everyone seems to love them. Good luck with the show!
These turned out beautiful, Mark. Although I'm not a tea drinker, I can see this being very useful for Mason jars. My late wife was an herb nut, and she would have loved to have jars with these lids for each kind she used. Your double sided macining turorials were great, and I will use what I learned. And I agree that using auxiliary spoilboards are the way to go. Thanks.
I've shown that process in several videos, but not one of its own. I show it in this video I did on 2-Sided Machining. Just scrub forward to the 51minute, 19 second mark, and I go through the whole thing there. Here's a link: th-cam.com/video/qsTdCdelBkg/w-d-xo.html In this second video, I show how I machined the project, to include the tool changes. Here's a link: th-cam.com/video/UhIaC-ApL9M/w-d-xo.html I hope this helps!
If you follow the same steps to the letter, there's no difference. The main thing is to remember which way you set the file up to be flipped, and flip it that way.
Hello. Thanks for making this video and sharing your knowledge. I've watched several of your videos and I greatly appreciate what I'm seeing and learning. I do have a question about your Touch Plate. Your Touch Plate appears to have surfaces that could be used for indicating X, Y and Z surface when needed. Can you please tell me more about that specific Touch Plate, or where can I purchase one? Thanks, Walt (Seattle, WA)
Thank you for your kind words. I now use a different touch plate most of the time, however the one used in this video is called the Triple Edge Finder, and I got it through The Makers Guide. Here's a link: www.themakersguide.com/home/products/triple-edge-finder-2
Mark what a fantasic video could not get my head round two sided machining but you made it look so easy carnt wait to try over next week. Quick question what was the curved sander did you use in the video
Ahhhhh - ok, gotcha. That's called a Sanding Mouse. It's just a plastic-covered foam block with hook and loop fastener on the bottom and sides, designed to use a standard hook and loop sandpaper disk - the kind you use on a random orbit sander. I hand sanded inside the dish shape. Here are some links: 5 inch - amzn.to/36dHj3B 6 inch - amzn.to/2AC6mSh
The X and Y zero positions don't change just by moving the gantry manually. Any machine will return to the X and Y zero you set when you tell it to. Those zero positions don't change.
How would you handle the dowels if you were machining a batch of these? Is there a simple way to preserve those same dowel holes in the spoilboard for each ?? Thank you!
That's an interesting question. I think the hard part would be making sure you got the material in exactly the same place every time you went to run the project. I guess you could come up with a removable jig that would place the bottom left corner of the material in the same spot every time, and try it that way. It might be worth experimenting on with some scrap wood. Thanks for the idea!
Thanks! That’s what I did and it worked perfectly. As long as my material was all the same and square. The one problem I am having, unrelated to this video, is I need to pocket out the bottom of a small tabletop while also carving out the legs. I am using a 1 1/4” tray bit. How can I pocket all the way to the border of the material without it leaving a lip?
If I understand you correctly, you want the pocket to go all the way out passed the edge of the piece. Just draw the pocket vectors to go out beyond the edge at least half the diameter of the bit you're using and you'll be fine.
I have to much trouble with two sided machining. I learned more about the wood then when to drill the holes into the waste board and from which side of the project. I am assuming that I use the holes copied from side one to side two and drill the holes into the spoil board without any other piece of wood on the spoilboard, then insert the dowel pins then attach the board you are cutting. You do not show this step or talk about it you just show some drilling into the spol board. This can be important step as to when to drill the spoil board and from which side of your tool path you use top or bottom. Yes it is difficult to keep it straight when you are trying to film it. I have learned A LOT off of your video's but this one still leaved me lost. Thanks
Having a CNC machine without teaching content like this would be hard. It's great to get insights from a professional!!!
Thank you very much for your kind words, but I'm far from a professional. I'm just a retired guy in a shed who is having the time of his life. If this mini-series of videos has helped you with a 2-sided project, then I've done my job. Thank you!
Bonjour, heureusement que vous êtes là , chaque vidéo me permet de comprendre et d'utiliser v Carve gràce à vous !! Un grand merci
Your sound effects are hilarious!!!
haha... loved the "harley" audio effect /grin
I just had an AH Ha moment on two-sided CNC routing. Your explanation on how to drill the index holes. It finally clicked. Thanks for your great videos. I have learned more from your videos than from any other source. Keep up the good work.
Great video! Very informative!
According to me the most complete channel on TH-cam about cnc, thank you very much! Greetings from italy!
what a videos!!, thanks a lot!, wonderfull job buddy
Excellent!! Thank you very much, Mark!!
You have very nice style to teach. Thank you!!
the sound effects are freaking hilarious hahaha
You are the best teacher sir lovely 😍.
I am in the process of setting up my Onefinity X50 and whilst not new to CNCs (had Biesse point to point commercial machines in the late 80s) I am new to VCarve Pro which has a significant learning curve attached to it and having explored a number of the tutorial videos offered on TH-cam yours are head and shoulders above the other offerings in their pace and content. I include Vectric's tutorials in this as well. I will be working my way through your content and looking at your old "live" sessions which are hard to join from Aus. Thanks and hope you get as much out of making then as I do watching them.
Awesome Video, Thank You Mark
Nice job brother Mark!
I am so happy that I have found your you tube channel. I can’t thank you enough. Please don’t stop teaching me.
These two videos showed me exactly what I needed. Thank you.
Thank you.good lesson.
Great video
Thank you for sharing, it’s been a hot min since I’ve done two sided projects, and your videos really help me out!
Mark: Most excellent video. You're presentations are outstanding! Clear, concise, on point, and toned down so us newbies can easily understand! Please, keep the video's coming!
Kamani is very hard to find these days. I milled up about 200’ yesterday. Nice find! Beautiful wood.
Kamani is absolutely glorious wood, and it carves beautifully. It was very hard to find when we lived there from 1994-1998. The Kamani I have came from a huge branch that blew out of a tree on our street during a storm. We lived on Oahu at Wheeler Airfield, and the whole length of our street was lined on both sides with Kamani trees. I wanted to score some Mango too, but couldn't get my hands on any. I wish I still lived there, as I know where the engineers at the airfield throw all of the trees they cut. They just pile them up to sit and rot away. If you have a saw mill and can get access to any of the military bases, you might talk to the engineers and see if you can get your hands on some of that wood that's salvageable. When we left the island, there was a huge amount there, ranging from entire trees that were toppled in storms to trees that needed to be removed for other reasons.
@@MarkLindsayCNC oh MAN!!! Good score. Excellent story behind it too. When I was stationed in Okinawa I shipped home a log of okinawa pine. Also scored a bunch of random hardwoods from east Africa And some olive wood from Cyprus. Collecting lumber on deployment. 🤷♂️
I was having so much trouble understanding two sided machining. You cleared up all my questions. Great video. Thank you so much.
Nice job Mark very informative and easy to understand. Thank you!
Perfect addition to the training videos that are on the Vectric site. Watching both the Vectric and Mark's videos are the way to go for anyone using the VCarve or Aspire software.
Thank you very much! I very much endorse Vectric's tutorials. They're the main way I learned to use the software. They have to cater to all skill levels, however, and can't take the time to break down the steps for folks who have never done this before, while I can. I've never tried to take the place of the Vectric tutorials - I'm just trying to augment them for the beginners.
Love the sound of the Harley will machining, another great video Mark
Thank you Charles! I was in a weird mood the day I edited this, and decided to have a little fun. Hopefully folks don't mind too much...
@@MarkLindsayCNC Charles is right. Almost everything goes well with the sound of a Harley in the background. :)
Looks awesome
Thank you for the 2 part series on 2-sided machining. I got more from your series than I did the Vectric LTD. series! Very informative and easy to follow!
Thanks Mark. Just got Aspire and will try a simple project. Learned a lot.
Go for it! Thanks for checking out the video!
Fantastic. Thanks so much
I think I finally understand the indexing. Thank You
Thank you, Tim. It really is a lot easier than it looks. After you've done one or two, you'll wonder why you were so intimidated.
Great video once again Mark. Thank you for all that you do concerning Vcarve tutorials, and for FREE! Hats off to you my friend.
Mark as always another Great Video on the subject in the world of CNC Machining. Thank You Mark.
Thank you for checking it out, Jerry!
I ALWAYS learn so much from your videos. Thank you!!!
Thank you, Laura! I hope it helps you out!
Beautiful work Mark. I now understand the doweling
Thank you, Steve! Told you it was easier to show than try to describe - lol. Sometimes I confuse myself, so I try to do it once and leave it alone.
Thank you very much sir!!
Beautiful workmanship! I have some Mimosa wood I would like to make lids. Thank you.
Thanks for taking the time to teach us your wisdom. I've been wanting to learn how to do this for so long and now I believe I can do it easily. Well done as always Mark.
Hi Mark, greatings from germany. I'm happy to find your fantastic videotutorials. Your videos help me alot to set my ideas in the reality by using VCarve Desktop. There are very less german tutorials available. To see and to discover the options of the soft- and hardware is much better to understand for me, than to read the instructions. I use a Stepcraft 840/2 and i'm happy with it. Since 4 weeks i'm using this Vectric software. Before i did 2d-jobs to produce decoration things or gifts. Now it becomes an other quality. Thank you very much for your detailed explanations in all your videos. Keep it up.
Greatings, Frank
Thank you very much, Frank! I'm very happy to hear you're finding the videos useful!
Excellent and such a well explained video on two sided machining. cleared the subject very well for a beginner like me. thanks mark as always !!
It looks so simple when you show it, and it actually is, thanks to you. Nice video
Thank you very much! There are a couple of things you have to pay attention to, but it is actually easier than it first appears. Once you do a couple and get the hang of it, you'll wonder why it looked so intimidating.
I feel like i'm about to start binge watching your videos Mark! They take the fear out of CNC projects and so awesomely informative! I'm becoming a huge fan just can't grow a stash like that!
Thank you very much, Andre!
Great, I was able to watch before we left on our trip. You cleared up my problem understanding the dowels. I feel like I can do this now with no problems. Thank you.
Thank you, Larry! Safe travels!
excellent exposition of two-sided technique, thanks
Thank you very much, Len! I hope it helps!
nice work MArk Double sided projects are the most fun at least for me Thanks for the great video lesson
Thank you, Patrick! They are a lot of fun. And once you get the process down, they're not as difficult as they look.
Really nice video, help me understand the methods used.
Thank you! I'm happy to hear that it helped!
as always thank you very much share your knowledge, for a beginner every video is very important, greetings!
Thank you very much! I do hope you're finding the videos helpful!
Thanks Mark great video
When you are using a really nice piece of material, are you a fan of running a surface bit across the material to insure it’s perfectly flat?
It depends on the project and the material. Sometimes it's crucial to run a surfacing pass to make sure the material is nice and flat. In this case, I had already prepared the kamani wood beforehand, so it wasn't necessary.
Great job - appreciate the tutorial.
I always thought you had to zero x/y, now I know what I have done wrong! You make this look so easy! Thank you for the time you put into these videos!
Thank you, Joni! That's probably the #1 cause of confusion for folks trying two-sided machining for the first time, with the locating dowel placement running a very close 2nd. I hope it clears up any confusion. Thanks for checking it out!
Great project! Thanks for what you do and for sharing it with us.
Thank you very much, Steve!
Mark thank you again for another fine set of videos explaining how to do a two sided project. I don't have Aspire but you indicated this can be done in VCarve Pro so when I get started in the next day or two, I hope I can make it work like you did with vCarve. I think you covered most of what I will need to know with the exception I will need to make a small roundover at the top of a pocket. I am not quite sure how too do this, but I think it will require me to use a molding profile. I guess I will find out. Plan on looking at how you use the molding profile and see if I can apply to my project. Thanks again.
Hi Mark another great job clearly explained , time for me to have a go .thank you
Thank you, Alan! It's really not as difficult as it looks. Give it a go!
Thank you so much!
Good stuff, Mark. Great process lesson and project idea. I'm going to see if I can knock out a variety of these before our annual food and craft Christmas show. I think popular teas and herbs might do well - plus offer custom. Thanks!
Thank you, Jim. These lids were certainly NOT my idea, but I have to admit that I'm a bit surprised at how folks reacted to them. Everyone seems to love them. Good luck with the show!
@@MarkLindsayCNC Yes. I've seen the idea before and had no clue whose idea it was. They are simple, practical and cool. How do you beat that? :)
These turned out beautiful, Mark. Although I'm not a tea drinker, I can see this being very useful for Mason jars. My late wife was an herb nut, and she would have loved to have jars with these lids for each kind she used. Your double sided macining turorials were great, and I will use what I learned. And I agree that using auxiliary spoilboards are the way to go. Thanks.
Thank you, Jim! My wife loves 'em. Except now she says she needs a shelf to display them on. Sometimes I just can't win...
@@MarkLindsayCNC Hey, you're just giving yourself some job security LOL
Love it, big guy, hey haven't been on for awhile love your vids keep up great work
Thank you very much! I hope it helps!
Awesome tutorial. I Like this slow explaining . How do you run this this g code so you can change tools? Thank you for sharing
I've shown that process in several videos, but not one of its own. I show it in this video I did on 2-Sided Machining. Just scrub forward to the 51minute, 19 second mark, and I go through the whole thing there. Here's a link: th-cam.com/video/qsTdCdelBkg/w-d-xo.html
In this second video, I show how I machined the project, to include the tool changes. Here's a link: th-cam.com/video/UhIaC-ApL9M/w-d-xo.html
I hope this helps!
Thanks Mark. What is the difference if you swap sides the other way, any?
If you follow the same steps to the letter, there's no difference. The main thing is to remember which way you set the file up to be flipped, and flip it that way.
Thank you!
Mark, where and how did you create the tool path for drilling in the spoilboard?
I see you found the answer. Thanks for watching!
Hello. Thanks for making this video and sharing your knowledge. I've watched several of your videos and I greatly appreciate what I'm seeing and learning. I do have a question about your Touch Plate. Your Touch Plate appears to have surfaces that could be used for indicating X, Y and Z surface when needed. Can you please tell me more about that specific Touch Plate, or where can I purchase one? Thanks, Walt (Seattle, WA)
Thank you for your kind words. I now use a different touch plate most of the time, however the one used in this video is called the Triple Edge Finder, and I got it through The Makers Guide. Here's a link: www.themakersguide.com/home/products/triple-edge-finder-2
@@MarkLindsayCNC Thank you!!!
Mark what a fantasic video could not get my head round two sided machining but you made it look so easy carnt wait to try over next week. Quick question what was the curved sander did you use in the video
I'm afraid I don't understand your question. Curved hander?
@@MarkLindsayCNC Hi Mark sorry auto correct it looked like you were using some form of curved sander to sand the lids just wondering what it was.
Ahhhhh - ok, gotcha. That's called a Sanding Mouse. It's just a plastic-covered foam block with hook and loop fastener on the bottom and sides, designed to use a standard hook and loop sandpaper disk - the kind you use on a random orbit sander. I hand sanded inside the dish shape.
Here are some links:
5 inch - amzn.to/36dHj3B
6 inch - amzn.to/2AC6mSh
How do you move the gantry out of the way and still maintain the xy position?
The X and Y zero positions don't change just by moving the gantry manually. Any machine will return to the X and Y zero you set when you tell it to. Those zero positions don't change.
Did you flip the index hole toolpath? You made the holes on the text side but then they're are flipped when you drill them.
How would you handle the dowels if you were machining a batch of these? Is there a simple way to preserve those same dowel holes in the spoilboard for each ?? Thank you!
That's an interesting question. I think the hard part would be making sure you got the material in exactly the same place every time you went to run the project. I guess you could come up with a removable jig that would place the bottom left corner of the material in the same spot every time, and try it that way. It might be worth experimenting on with some scrap wood. Thanks for the idea!
Thanks! That’s what I did and it worked perfectly. As long as my material was all the same and square. The one problem I am having, unrelated to this video, is I need to pocket out the bottom of a small tabletop while also carving out the legs. I am using a 1 1/4” tray bit. How can I pocket all the way to the border of the material without it leaving a lip?
If I understand you correctly, you want the pocket to go all the way out passed the edge of the piece. Just draw the pocket vectors to go out beyond the edge at least half the diameter of the bit you're using and you'll be fine.
thats cool
I wish my spindle sounded like a harley!
I have to much trouble with two sided machining. I learned more about the wood then when to drill the holes into the waste board and from which side of the project. I am assuming that I use the holes copied from side one to side two and drill the holes into the spoil board without any other piece of wood on the spoilboard, then insert the dowel pins then attach the board you are cutting. You do not show this step or talk about it you just show some drilling into the spol board. This can be important step as to when to drill the spoil board and from which side of your tool path you use top or bottom. Yes it is difficult to keep it straight when you are trying to film it. I have learned A LOT off of your video's but this one still leaved me lost. Thanks