Super Dave no he and his f father took over the property of his great grandfather been in the family from the start hey look up Parkers Trail Papua New Guinea gold rush and you’ll see that grandson in there with the glasses explaining everything to you
When I saw this I instantly thought about "TH-camr" uploading videos like "I bought the cheapest and the most expensive XYZ from Amazon - now watch me unbox both", while the same amount of money could equip the whole classroom and make an impact for a decade. So sad.
@@hurtigheinz3790 it is sad because many of those people would rather fight than gain knowledge that they know is out there to be had. If you think about it. It is the strongest leaders that don't allow a better balance of modern innovation into there lives. Probably because those individuals leaders know they will loose Power and become less relevant. Though in reality they will loose power and become beloved Heroes.
I wish he mentioned the cultural diversity of PNG. The culture of tribal fighting, payback killings and compensation originate from the highland region of our country. Coastal areas do not practise this. This is not a reflection of our country as a whole but a place in the Highlands.
..knew a geologist who worked there in the 90's...said virtually every adult male had knife/axe/sword scars....a single12 gauge birdshot shotgun shell cost $10, a good thing he said...
Emerson used the New Guinea people as a reference to how fast they can heal from wounds compared to civilized peoples , in his essay on individualism . (1835 , or thereabouts.) A very violent people , throughout recorded history.
@@leidersammlung6955 no more than any other people ...take the land of Israel for example the western icon of civilization and culture ...basically a blood soaked rock strewn war zone for the last 6000 years
@@leidersammlung6955 I agree with you clearly ...but it is true about the origins of abrahamic religions and the land of Israel...if I had to choose one geographical location that represents a guiding force for western culture it would be Israel. That's why it's been so hotly contested, conquered, reconquered again and again from the time of the pharos to the present ....each conquering force building their own temple on top of the last one ...its important alright, not that I believe in the hype, it's just all history to me
@@leidersammlung6955 I get it, the interesting history of that part of the mediteranean starts in the neolithic with the advent of modern wheat, a natural cross between spelt and wild rye grass then exploited by humans ...for me, that's interesting anyway..the rest is just blood soaked conflict.
@@leidersammlung6955 I never asserted that food was the most integral part of a civilization ..you said that, i just said i find that time period to be the most interesting. Hunger is not an instinct either, you seem to be a bit jumbled up in how you look at stuff ..anyway good luck to you
PNG is perhaps the most improbable nation on earth. It is just two generations removed from headhunting, many parts of the country still offer a window to what the world must have been like more than 10,000 years ago (sort of like a human Jurassic Park but without having to clone the cavemen) and the people speak more than 850 languages(!) though it does have it own pidgin language (Tok Pisin) which serves as a lingua franca for the entire country. It is the only nation that went directly from the Stone Age to the Atomic Age in less than 50 years. For an anthropologist like me, this is El Dorado!
Как в своё время Монголия из феодализма сразу прыгнула в социализм, минуя капитализм. А ПНГ ещё предстоит пройти через искус социализмом. Демоны, именуемые на человеческом языке Маркс, Энгельс, Ленин, Троцкий, не дремлют.
@Hdolf Aitler it's definitely racist (you are Hitler so of course) to think you can't teach people who haven't been exposed to more advanced technologies how to use them. And the that more advanced Nations don't have a responsibility to help out less Advanced Nation is completely acceptable accept for the more advanced countries colonized and economically exploited. PNG was colonised by the UK, GERMANY and Australia so I feel like those countries do you have responsibilities to help them, I don't think anybody else does.
why are people blaming the europeans? these people literally are at wars with each other since before the europeans even arrived! it's called a tribal war for a reason
Blaming the white man is racist and bad is an easy scape goat for everything rather than addressing an actual issue in it's entirety. Not that we are perfect but yeah I agree haha
The whites divided the land and preferred certain tribes over others, which caused rivalries to further get worse. The same thing happened with the patchy, and the with the soil and the Navajo.. but the crow and uroq are doing horrible because they didn’t cooperate
Tribal conflict in Papua New Guinea could’ve ended decades ago, but the country is forced to engage in raw resource trade instead of producing made goods. The economic circumstances and lack of healthy economic growth means the furtherance of poverty, and with poverty comes crime and violence. What can be said of their industry could be said of their infrastructure too, it’s been kept purposefully underdeveloped by the European powers who still benefit from its natural resource wealth.
True but generrally with european contact those wars degenerate and become more violent. Its the casev everyowhere Look the musket wars in new zealand and the beaver wars of north america . With european contact , new weapons and new economical interrest for the tribes, the wars get out of hand
Yeah. West Papua ( part of of Indonesia ) also having these custom. Our government back then, desperately trying to bring these folks into civilization. Every possible and thinkable way, including brute forcing them to stop kill each other. Confisticating every weapon, arresting their leader, and those who refuse to be pacified. Guess what we get? UN sanction for human rights violation.
To me this was an amazing story. It also contained elements about the father-son relationship, which I thought was powerful. It kinda struck home. I am deeply grateful for having found this content late at night, while suffering insomnia.
A friend of mine worked in png for 10 years but as soon as he got married, his wife demanded that they leave as soon as she became pregnant. The lawlessness will make most peoples jaw drop.
In Papua New Guinea you have to classify the country into 4 regions below. Tribal fights only occurs in the Highlands region. You won't find it in the other 3. 1 Islands region 2 Papuan region 3 Momase region 4 Highlands region
I have never experienced war in my entire life. But that's all the "outside world" knows about Africa. That doesn't mean that there hasn't been political and tribal wars, even in my own country, one of the "peaceful" African countries. I have learnt to do my research on issues like this one above.
@@nathanmerritt1581 Pardon me but what I meant is that after hearing people say how much war there is in Africa, anytime I get "negative" information about a country, I take it with a grain of salt because from my experience, there's always more to the story. Dunno if that makes sense. I must have typed late at night and probably didn't make much sense.
Pre-White discovery era, these people were good case study of humanity because they reflected humanity as a whole. 1. They grew crops and raised livestock. 2. Due to abundance of food, population would increase. 3. As population and livestock grew, they put stress on the environment and then eventually one or the other group start encroaching on each other's territories (livestock such as pigs cost as much resources to raise as a human being). 4. With stress on the environment, war ensues, and after many deaths, they make peace and slaughter the livestock for the peace-feasting. 5. After many deaths and reduction of livestock, less stress on the environment, which give breathing space for each tribes, so there would be a period of peace. 6. Cycle continues roughly within the 25 to 30 year period. Coffee price drop, so they destroy the very infrastructures that could have saved their future? Make sense to me.
Sounds pretty sustainable. We could learn from that. Also harsh, another thing we could learn from. The world is not constant nor peaceful and pretending will only make the volcano blow higher.
"Its MY COMMUNITY and I have to serve it, its what I have to do"....this actually brought a tear to my eye😢 Sometimes life is not all about us but about the people we help serve👊🏾
But Joe had the nerve to insult his " indignant " half as long as shit was going his way, and they stay in their place. As was picked up from the "western half" in the first place, in spite of being disregarded by his own father .
Sorry, but the conflict I just saw (you might have seen another one) had only bows and arrows and spears. But you never know, White guys may have come to the jungle to make those for the warriors, isn't that right?
To hear George say he wants to off hinself because he feels worthless, and gets the blame for being axed is one of the saddest things ive ever heard, im a grown ass man, i just want to tell him it's not your fault brother...its not your fault. Seeing that teacher not get paid for years but wanting his community to move forward is inspiring, i am an Aussie, originally from Chile, and i am a product of the wonderful society that Australia is, PNG is a beautiful place with amazing prospects for its future as its rich in natural resources, what they need, is good governance and social change, thank you uploader for this wonderful wonderful documentary
Different tribes fight for land women or resources but in the olden days it was done with rules and after fighting there was compensation paid to the victims tribes but today it's different because of the white mans weapon
Donald Trump you could just say guns instead of making it racial, but everyone wants to blame someone. Some people blame races, some blame religions, and the people who know how the world works know when blame is justified and when it isn’t, instead of just blaming it on a different group of people no matter how much influence they actually had. But i guess people just hate to think rationally and would rather find something to argue over, its all over the internet
4:11 "Now we must makee 800 000" And that's what holds so many traditional societies back right there, very similar to the bantu groups of southern Africa, their not big fans of letting individuals go out and make something of themselves for themselves only., it kills allot of innovation and initiative
Amen. When I saw that part I just thought "Wow, they sound exactly like these entitled "gibs me dat" welfare people in the USA and Europe. It's disgusting, thinking they are owed something when they did nothing for it.
@@SilverfoxJB- In Nigeria the site where I worked was under siege for a few months. Because of tribal demands for ransom... Long before that episode, among other things, a brand new electrical network was offered, free of charge, either for installation or use/consumption. In the day of the inauguration, turn switch to ON. Surprise, surprise. Nothing works!! Local tribal chief stole the connectors and try to "sell" them back to us! Fuck_ng stupid it was theirs totally free, gratis, no charge and they where trying to get a ransom for it! As amazing as this might seem there´s so many more stories that most in any civilized place wouldn¨t imagine. Cheers
@Vaughn reed jr yeah, we white people have always suffered due to our laziness. It's amazing how we managed to conquer the world just by sitting on our asses and to have time for all the major inventions in the 20th century. While those hard working chaps in Africa can't even manage to lay a fucking road or dig a well.
As some New Guineans will tell you, they were better off under the Australians. It was better of as an Australian protectorate. The natives could own the businesses with funding and expertise from Australia. If the market collapses, the Aussies would help put. These people cannot handle market economics
Bob Conolly a common name in the highlands- in the making of first contact and the A great story revisited again ....amazing we have been following your story!
Good documentary, if memory serves me, no land can be mined or developed without the approval of the local Tribes, no matter what the Government says, this was written into their constitution, I believe.....the people have a strong connection to preserving the environment in it natural state for wildlife and essential farming, so it doesn’t surprise me capitalism and private ownership by outsiders will not be accepted...
go up there and try and open a mine or other business without full acceptance by the locals in advance... if you don't you will be under continual sabotage, damage and possible attack... until you leave. Permission by the national government means nothing up there... these people are the traditional landowners and really control the area. Although PNG is rich, there are stories from all over about people coming in and starting businesses, and then getting thrown out of the area. Any enterprise that generates money will result in a dispute. Even businesses owned by locals... their own people get jealous and make it impossible for the business to continue. Capitalism by the outsiders? Don't worry, the value of money comes first and foremost there, any opportunity to get money , fairly or otherwise is not lost on them.
Hey Harry u right, but forgot to add the pink americans need to watch also. Trumpalism seems to be causing tribalism feuding in US; you forgot y'all do it it's called politics.
@@ericchristopheruk I am not white nor am I an USA citizen; i visited the USA and spent 2 months. I have a 10 years visa to the USA. It's Obama's agenda that is causing the conflict in the USA. It's Obama's ascendance to the presidency that is causing ethnic turmoil in the USA.
Australia subsidises PNG to the tune of around $AUS5.5 million per annum to buy Lamborghinis for visiting foreign dignitaries to drive around in. If Australia cut off the dosh, we all know who's waiting in the wings to fill the gap!! I visited Mt Hagen just after independence. It appears to have gone backwards since then.
Rousseau's myth of the "Noble Savage" goes out the window when you look at facts. Tribal societies were constantly engaged in warfare. One of the reasons the Yonamani reservation is so large in Brazil is to give them ample room to roam without running into rival groups because they will kill any nearby tribe they come in contact with. Western civilization is the best thing that can happen to these tribal societies, even with all the "drawbacks" it might bring.
Grew up with "Black Harvest", the preceding documentary to this filmed in the 90's. So very sad to see the difference in Joe's circumstance; it is never easy balancing customary practices with modern demands. I too, struggle with this as a Melanesian Pasifika.
@Mark Honea True, but, at the heart of this is greed and corruption at the highest levels which then trickles down. I spent many months in PNG and saw ALOT. The corruption has been happening for decades. An incredible country, rich in sooo many ways, yet, being exploited by a handful...as usual....
@Mark Honea PNG is a VERY tribal country. Its almost 26 nations within one country, each one wanting more & more. A previous Prime Minister of PNG has more property investments in Nthn Australia, than wealthy Aussie's do. How does a PM secure multi million dollar deals on a salary that cannot even pay the interest bills? PNG is riddled with corruption. Its a VERY sad state. All because of greed....
@Mark Honea The stories I could tell you... The country is VERY tribal. Those in the highlands (incredible coffee and the weed is soooo next level...) think those in southern areas to be sub human. A system known as "Wontok" runs deep (my brother is your brother and your cousin is my cousin...you hurt mine, I kill yours) also. Throw in alcohol abuse (white people been abusing it for centuries...indigenous folk, not so....) and drug abuse. Meth is totally out of control. I have seen guys totally lose their minds after 2 x cans of beer. The fact that I could down 15 bottles and still walk (with 0 anger) had some thinking I was a God (yep, that still happens). PNG is truly one of the greatest countries on Earth. The people (the good one's...) are incredibly hospitable and cant do enough, but, exploitation and corruption has ruined the place.
@Mark Honea The problems in PNG are many fold. Unemployment and lack of a decent education (in remote communities) are contributing factors. We are talking about people who in some instances are living as though they have escaped time (no electricity, subsistence farming, dirt floors in huts, etc.). A "modern..." world collides with indigenous folk. You either move on or move into jail is how its described to me now by friends still living there (who carry firearms on their person and in cars whilst travelling).
@@mayreacts8030 Oh god no its much more than that. I love the diversity of Languages. I love the diversity and ecosystems. I think it's so cool how on the coast there are some of the most beautiful tropical rainforest in the world and then you get into the highlands and it's an amazing beautiful temperate ecosystem. The natural beauty of the island is incredible.The animals there are awesome too with tree kangaroos, birds-of-paradise in Sing Sing Dogs The history of the island also fascinates me and something I would love to learn more about. I know that the banana was first domesticated there and they believe that they were the first farmers In a tropical region in the world. I am American and I am also a big student of WW2 and PNG and Bougainville campaigns are definitely another fascinating chapter if that islands history. I am from the southern US and we do pig roasts all the time so I love how that is a big thing in PNG too. I want to visit PNG take part in a sing-sing eat some pork and go bird watching.
Really interesting doc. A good example of the difficulties that can arise between different systems of land tenure and ownership; the lease hold of central government in contrast to the regional forms of tribal land distribution .PNG is such a beautiful place
Tribalism is the root ideology behind socialism and communism.What you see is the inevitable result of collectivism.They hold themselves in the stone age and when an individual progresses the larger group drags them back in the name of the tribe (collective).
***** That's not to say you are incorrect.Imperialism is one road a society could take once the ancient tribal culture has imploded.Socialism/Communism is another while we have gone further towards "self-governence" in western societies.I realize that we aren't quite a society of "self-governing" individuals but it seems that we may be at that crossroad in history where we decide whether we will go that route or go quite another.
Japan had a traditionally feudal society and a 250 year policy of isolationism, but forced themselves to adopt a more open and more imperialistic national policy after the humiliation of the Perry Expeditions. However as we all know the Japanese went WAY too far in their newfound imperial ambitions with devastating consequences in 1945.
capitalism is hypocritical and so is your post. You are quick to falsely interpret the tribal mentality dragging down individual fat cats but you don't realize plenty of amazon indians live in harmony a happy life well organized and functional as a tribe. Only when such tribes way of life is hindered and stopped by outside destruction of habitat and enforcing stupid western values on them does their healthy tribal system collapse to degenerate destructive forces. Tribalism has nothing to do with communism at all. Capitalism is an evil that enforces plutocracies and oligarchies run by banksters and idle market speculators who don't produce positive work but live on the back of others and should be exterminated. Communism is an utopia and i am not defending it, but capitalism is evil to the core. Only royalism is good and is the model followed by nature as well which we are part of.
Home sweet home, the very place that has chosen to be, feeling blessed because there were so many communities around the country but they chose Ganaka is a blessing to us❤️❤️❤️
You have no idea how quickly these Papuans can run up and down hills and across rough ground, the Australian Army has attempted to train the Papuan Army but the family, clan and tribal customs and payback customs are just to binding to impose effective military discipline. They just cannot agree to disagree but still work for the common good if they did it could be one of the best countries in the world.
I come from a Tea plantation background ,my Father was a tea Planter in the Hills of South India and so can identify with a lot shown in this clip.The only way I think a venture like coffee plantations and processing faculties would work in a place like this is a cooperative ...A venture that local Papauns own ...Managed by people like Joe.You cant be a millionaire in the middle of no where with people who slog for you just manage to scrap a living....the profits need to go back ...need to be shared.No longer can one ( anywhere) exploit indegenous people and thrive.Take them along and everyone will do just fine.Also as a Horticulturist and a food professional I would recommend not sticking with a single crop ....coffee needs to be combined with other crops carefully selected after studying local climate conditions and the potential for markets for these other crops.A sustainably grown ....ethically managed venture is managed correctly and marketed brillaintly does succeed and there are too many success stories with similar issiues to learn and take inspiration from
When I attended Purdue University I met one of the first young women from this country to attend college here in the US, I had no idea the history behind her culture it’s very interesting
So one guy built everything up through hard work and intelligence,then others in a jealous rage destroyed it. The phrase cut off your nose to spite your face comes to mind. As for being self sufficient,I really don't see that kind of destruction as being self sufficient. When they are growing their food and tending to their families without attacking others in a fit of jealous rage,that's when they are being self sufficient.
No the tribe did all the work of planting and picking at this coffee plantation and were not making a good wage because coffee prices plummeted the first year they had a proper crop and then the war started. The dismal coffee market had a lot to do with the rage the people felt and Joe had a 60% to 40% split with the ENTIRE tribe working the fields. The financial banks were relentless too on Joe because of a huge loan so everyone involved got stuck in a quagmire. It is a sad story of greed that stretches back to colonialism. The whites always tried to take advantage of the tribal workers from the beginning. They paid them in shells and iron axe heads for the first decade or so when they were mining GOLD instead of giving them proper REAL money and literally stole their wealth. Joe at least was trying to pay them but even he took advantage some of the situation. A sad story..
that is the inevitable conclusion of any enterprise up there, you try to generate money, someone gets jealous... and it's all over. Happens every time.
You know why I disliked this video? Because the title is very misleading, it really set off my aralm bell. Papua New Guinea is still very much a tribal society, they have not fully transcended into a country. Therefor "Tribal Conflict Has Devasted Papua New Guinea" is not correct, because this is how it has always been there and will be for many years to come.
How sad they blame the guy for being axed when they were the ones who chose to go to war over it and now they treat him like it’s his fault this is so sad I pray for these people to see the truth in their own actions and I pray for good things to come their way and for education
I have so much respect for these people, hard life. I wish some private equity could flow into these places to give them some hope and use the land for good.
Jim is now running Kilima and exporting Nebilyer coffee. He's also trialing cocoa, honey and vanilla. Kilima is back to life. We need another documentary on this.
During the glory days of the plantation I was there as a small boy and my father was a driver of one of Joe's truck. A very beautiful place to live, the memories still fresh in my mind. ❤❤❤
There's much more to this story than we are being shown. My first question is why that man was so brutally attacked? Did he do something to cause the attack? Why would his tribe go to war over this and then blame him for the war. He must have done something wrong is my guess.
Sad, but it is the reality people face in PNG. The absence of Govt, and their corruption has lead this country to the situation we see here in this video. Small minded people and wrong interpretation of custom values hold the development, investor also think thousand times before they work here. Joe and his family was actually the best way out they could get. Instead of having better life in Australia, Joe stay with them. But in the past people easily provocated by another stupid people, and looks like nothing actually change since then.. Sad..
WOW, I see this a whole other way in which tribes are important and the governments have ruined everything. You want true freedom? They have it and they have a purpose to live unlike the government coming in and saving the day while also ruining their way of life. Seems like you do not have a connection with your ancestors. If they were still hunters and gatherers, there may also be less war. Did you know that class warfare and slavery came after agriculture and civilizations formed? Try and connect what that means.
14:40 does that man have a Pay Pal account?. I'd like to donate to help him in his endeavors to continue to help these children. Can we post books or school materials to the school?. Thanks
The reporter didn't mention that the tribal fight started because of the coffee plantation. The tribes fought themselves. The only reason the plantation was destroyed was because it was situated in the war zone. The destruction to properties was caused by enemies of the tribe that gave land to the plantation owner who live "all around the plantation". This comment if for those that understood the video at face value without understanding the culture of the locals and have commented like experts way below.
I love it too. I speak pidgin indonesian. I know quite a bit of bhs Indonesian but not quite enough. Me and my friends understand each other, we hobble along together 😁
Man Joe's story is truly sad. The guy worked his butt off and established something, even tried to help jealous neighbors set up so they could also become rich, and then everything is torn away from him by Jealousy and stupidity. Its crazy how success is viewed as something to be hated but envied by so many people.
The key is @24:06. Understanding of property and leases. In PNG land property is community owned. In Australia, they want to sign 99 year lease?!?!? WTH?!? Who has ever heard of signing a 99 year lease? Oh! As in Hong Kong? or in Panama with the canal? or with American Indians? See a pattern. "Tribal" conflicts happen when there is no "judge" to settle conflicts (dwindling resources). Children of PNG should return and progress their people. We need to fix our own problems. Onelove!
@@applecom1de509 Hi applecom1de! Actually, a creole language technically is a pidgin that becomes a mother tongue. Though Tok Pisin is the prime mode of communication in some urban area/slums, a language that a few people in the last two decades have been born into, in the highlands - where this documentary takes place - everyone Papua New Guinean depicted has a tribal language. There's actually over 800 languages in PNG. So yes, in a very few places it is now a creole language, but not broadly, not even close. It's just a pidgin. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Papa Joe sendirian berjuang disana. Mungkin dulu di tanah air kita, Papua barat banyak kisah seperti Papa Joe. Jangan biarkan Papa Joe berjuang sendirian. Mari kita majukan Papua Barat! Torang samua basudara!
I always say it. Its our own people that destroy eachother its start from us. Im not PNG but i am a coloured person and coloured people around the world have that problem
@@WoogleWimpy Is that why you had to thumb up your own comment?? 😂😂. Let me show you just how full of shit you are with your typical whitewashed denial. Name one place >>JUST ONE
They fight so much Joe should think about opening an MMA fight-to-death club instead of growing coffee. People would be happy and Joe would be rich again 😂
I saw the original documentary many years ago and never fotgot it and allways wandered what has haapened ever since….So happy to see this one now as well👍👍🇳🇱
I love him teaching u educate the people soon they will be able to start their own economy growth hold on people we were brought here as slaves l can't describe what we went through this guy talking about him making millions
This tribal conflicts in lands, such as this, is what happens when wipeepo get involved in OTHER PEOPLES BUSINESS. Papua New Guinea has been messed with by the dutch (who also had Australia), Americans and the British. If they stopped messing about other people's affairs, there would be less of this bullshit .
Thank you for allowing outsiders to peek into another time. The thing which caught my attention is the degree of confusion in terms of what the issues are. In the ideal world we would take care of each other. In the real world its a case of who is able to exploit the other. Almost everything is against Papua New Guinea. Beginning with name New Guinea. For goodness sake 'Guinea' is a Portuguese word. Poor old Joe. He wouldn't easily see what happened. He wasn't a failure. He was too successful. The big players obviously weren't happy to see an independent starter in a place with so much potential. All the indigenous people of Papua deserve to be protected. It ought to be easy. Leave them alone.
anything, but the big nono's up there (cause of fights) are property rights, stealing pigs, stealing women (adultery)... they are the big nono's. IN addition any possible excuse to argue with anyone from outside the tribe works well too. It will be a money thing or 'kompensation' for some real or imagined damage or personal slight (hurt feelings).
I used to work in the fields trimming apricots Graves pairs olive trees. To fix us coffee bean plants cut off the suckers and leave the old branches and trim the suckers off the old branches
If only the government of PNG can see the potential business in this area...it'll benefit the people, and PNG's economy. So sad the government won't look into it. It'll be PNG's fault
I initially supported West Papua to be separated from Indonesia, but now after seeing this documentary, I feel it would be better if West Papua was still in Indonesian hands. because I believe that if West Papua were separated from Indonesia, West Papua would be more chaotic than PNG. especially between PNG and West Papua have the same culture and according to some sources I read there are often tribal wars in West Papua, but they can be suppressed by the Indonesian military and police so that bad things like the Karida massacre can be prevented and between top brass of the organization of The West Papuan liberation also does not get along and each wants to be the leader of the West Papua if it free from Indonesia and that can also lead to civil war
True, this people are still tribalistic. Need some other country to force them to stop their ways or either let one tribe dominate the other tribe so that this war couldn't, happen.
I went to visit my uncle and aunty in PNG in about 1974. My cousin who was about 5 when i went there was never able to keep a kitten for long the locals used to steal them and cook them up. I also read where two Highlanders got convicted for digging up a body and using it to make soup. It made the paper there when I was there. They had one set of lights in Port Morsby and a Highlander dressed in his tribal wear used to wave his stick at the lights thinking he had the power to change the lights. No doubt nearly 50 years on is more civilised. I remember lot of locals had red teeth from chewing on the beetle nut. Great holiday and plenty more stories I am remembering now :)
That school teacher is a real hero in my eyes no pay and still help the children wow
he is a real human being ........ a hero ...... an example for all of us who are already blessed ....... when is enough ; enough ;(
Help me understand......
Is the coffee plantation owner and his son from the tribe or are they outsiders that came to set up a plantation?
Super Dave no he and his f father took over the property of his great grandfather been in the family from the start hey look up Parkers Trail Papua New Guinea gold rush and you’ll see that grandson in there with the glasses explaining everything to you
When I saw this I instantly thought about "TH-camr" uploading videos like "I bought the cheapest and the most expensive XYZ from Amazon - now watch me unbox both", while the same amount of money could equip the whole classroom and make an impact for a decade. So sad.
@@hurtigheinz3790 it is sad because many of those people would rather fight than gain knowledge that they know is out there to be had. If you think about it. It is the strongest leaders that don't allow a better balance of modern innovation into there lives. Probably because those individuals leaders know they will loose Power and become less relevant. Though in reality they will loose power and become beloved Heroes.
hats off to the teacher..
Lenard Torres
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RIP . didnt last long
damn he broke me into tears seriously may God bless him....
That teacher should post a way for us to contribute!
I wish he mentioned the cultural diversity of PNG. The culture of tribal fighting, payback killings and compensation originate from the highland region of our country. Coastal areas do not practise this. This is not a reflection of our country as a whole but a place in the Highlands.
Is there a doc about this?
Same like west papua the higland people are so fierce and harsh still practice war tribe
@@DaMensch86 there is a well done documentary on this topic on the Guardian's youtube page...
@@micol7490would you be able to link it here? Cheers
@@KateStewart-ch5tv TH-cam don't make me post the link. Search something like "How guns and Hollywood changed tribal disputes in Papua New Guinea"
Even in a society with so few, greed is still a plague.
..knew a geologist who worked there in the 90's...said virtually every adult male had knife/axe/sword scars....a single12 gauge birdshot shotgun shell cost $10, a good thing he said...
Emerson used the New Guinea people as a reference to how fast they can heal from wounds compared to civilized peoples , in his essay on individualism . (1835 , or thereabouts.) A very violent people , throughout recorded history.
@@leidersammlung6955 no more than any other people ...take the land of Israel for example the western icon of civilization and culture ...basically a blood soaked rock strewn war zone for the last 6000 years
@@leidersammlung6955 I agree with you clearly ...but it is true about the origins of abrahamic religions and the land of Israel...if I had to choose one geographical location that represents a guiding force for western culture it would be Israel.
That's why it's been so hotly contested, conquered, reconquered again and again from the time of the pharos to the present ....each conquering force building their own temple on top of the last one ...its important alright, not that I believe in the hype, it's just all history to me
@@leidersammlung6955 I get it, the interesting history of that part of the mediteranean starts in the neolithic with the advent of modern wheat, a natural cross between spelt and wild rye grass then exploited by humans ...for me, that's interesting anyway..the rest is just blood soaked conflict.
@@leidersammlung6955 I never asserted that food was the most integral part of a civilization ..you said that, i just said i find that time period to be the most interesting.
Hunger is not an instinct either, you seem to be a bit jumbled up in how you look at stuff ..anyway good luck to you
PNG is perhaps the most improbable nation on earth. It is just two generations removed from headhunting, many parts of the country still offer a window to what the world must have been like more than 10,000 years ago (sort of like a human Jurassic Park but without having to clone the cavemen) and the people speak more than 850 languages(!) though it does have it own pidgin language (Tok Pisin) which serves as a lingua franca for the entire country. It is the only nation that went directly from the Stone Age to the Atomic Age in less than 50 years. For an anthropologist like me, this is El Dorado!
Как в своё время Монголия из феодализма сразу прыгнула в социализм, минуя капитализм. А ПНГ ещё предстоит пройти через искус социализмом. Демоны, именуемые на человеческом языке Маркс, Энгельс, Ленин, Троцкий, не дремлют.
True
@Hdolf Aitler we don't need you all
@Hdolf Aitler it's definitely racist (you are Hitler so of course) to think you can't teach people who haven't been exposed to more advanced technologies how to use them. And the that more advanced Nations don't have a responsibility to help out less Advanced Nation is completely acceptable accept for the more advanced countries colonized and economically exploited. PNG was colonised by the UK, GERMANY and Australia so I feel like those countries do you have responsibilities to help them, I don't think anybody else does.
@Hdolf Aitler of course adolf hitller would say this
why are people blaming the europeans? these people literally are at wars with each other since before the europeans even arrived! it's called a tribal war for a reason
Blaming the white man is racist and bad is an easy scape goat for everything rather than addressing an actual issue in it's entirety. Not that we are perfect but yeah I agree haha
Dey wuz kangz
The whites divided the land and preferred certain tribes over others, which caused rivalries to further get worse. The same thing happened with the patchy, and the with the soil and the Navajo.. but the crow and uroq are doing horrible because they didn’t cooperate
Tribal conflict in Papua New Guinea could’ve ended decades ago, but the country is forced to engage in raw resource trade instead of producing made goods.
The economic circumstances and lack of healthy economic growth means the furtherance of poverty, and with poverty comes crime and violence.
What can be said of their industry could be said of their infrastructure too, it’s been kept purposefully underdeveloped by the European powers who still benefit from its natural resource wealth.
True but generrally with european contact those wars degenerate and become more violent.
Its the casev everyowhere
Look the musket wars in new zealand and the beaver wars of north america .
With european contact , new weapons and new economical interrest for the tribes, the wars get out of hand
Tribal warfare seems to always be the norm in PNG fascinating culture.
Yeah. West Papua ( part of of Indonesia ) also having these custom. Our government back then, desperately trying to bring these folks into civilization. Every possible and thinkable way, including brute forcing them to stop kill each other. Confisticating every weapon, arresting their leader, and those who refuse to be pacified. Guess what we get?
UN sanction for human rights violation.
@@fajaradi1223 You get the UN sanction for East Timor and not for West Papua Genua.
@@fajaradi1223 excellent excuse!
Well, you can see it in the US too..
@B M
Naaah ...
It was the smiling general troops. Not me, coz I'm a part of a new Indonesia.
To me this was an amazing story. It also contained elements about the father-son relationship, which I thought was powerful. It kinda struck home. I am deeply grateful for having found this content late at night, while suffering insomnia.
You certainly will can't write the facts on You tube.
A friend of mine worked in png for 10 years but as soon as he got married, his wife demanded that they leave as soon as she became pregnant. The lawlessness will make most peoples jaw drop.
In Papua New Guinea you have to classify the country into 4 regions below. Tribal fights only occurs in the Highlands region. You won't find it in the other 3.
1 Islands region
2 Papuan region
3 Momase region
4 Highlands region
I have never experienced war in my entire life. But that's all the "outside world" knows about Africa. That doesn't mean that there hasn't been political and tribal wars, even in my own country, one of the "peaceful" African countries. I have learnt to do my research on issues like this one above.
@@kap849 you do realise this videos not Africa right?
@@nathanmerritt1581 Pardon me but what I meant is that after hearing people say how much war there is in Africa, anytime I get "negative" information about a country, I take it with a grain of salt because from my experience, there's always more to the story.
Dunno if that makes sense. I must have typed late at night and probably didn't make much sense.
@@nathanmerritt1581 lol, I do know PNG from my interactions with people from the Island.
In west papua, the separatist were also highlands people while the rest, esp the coastal and islands people are pretty much pro indonesia
Thisis the one of the greatest documentaries I have ever watched
More upfront honesty than a lot of them.
For real man and it's a scary one
Pre-White discovery era, these people were good case study of humanity because they reflected humanity as a whole.
1. They grew crops and raised livestock.
2. Due to abundance of food, population would increase.
3. As population and livestock grew, they put stress on the environment and then eventually one or the other group start encroaching on each other's territories (livestock such as pigs cost as much resources to raise as a human being).
4. With stress on the environment, war ensues, and after many deaths, they make peace and slaughter the livestock for the peace-feasting.
5. After many deaths and reduction of livestock, less stress on the environment, which give breathing space for each tribes, so there would be a period of peace.
6. Cycle continues roughly within the 25 to 30 year period.
Coffee price drop, so they destroy the very infrastructures that could have saved their future? Make sense to me.
Feon Jun life a weird thing ain't it
Sounds pretty sustainable. We could learn from that. Also harsh, another thing we could learn from. The world is not constant nor peaceful and pretending will only make the volcano blow higher.
Depending on if they learned to grow crops from the middle easterners or white or they moved to the land after that point in time.
Then came guns, and bombs, and drones, and bio-warfare. Not even starting to talk about social control by governing parties.
The cycle continues,
Even the bible admits there is a time for war.
"Its MY COMMUNITY and I have to serve it, its what I have to do"....this actually brought a tear to my eye😢 Sometimes life is not all about us but about the people we help serve👊🏾
Joe Leahy, one of the first indigenous business man from the Highlands of PNG. Great respect for this man.
Yep
But Joe had the nerve to insult his " indignant " half as long as shit was going his way, and they stay in their place. As was picked up from the "western half" in the first place, in spite of being disregarded by his own father .
@tdotjazzberryram61 stop talking about my grand father like that
@tdotjazzberryram61 he never did anything bad
Bless the son, Jim! He seems like a good man, and that his heart is in the right place. Hope it works out for him in the end.
Good man
You cannot bring people from stoneage to silicon based technology in just a couple of generations. They need education !!!
@@covenawhite4855 shut up
Exactely they need education, church, and work
That guitar player doesn't... as I sure don't either, just to make stickers all day.
black is a colour, not a race
Sorry, but the conflict I just saw (you might have seen another one) had only bows and arrows and spears. But you never know, White guys may have come to the jungle to make those for the warriors, isn't that right?
That’s their business! This has been going on for thousands of years
Are you suggesting that we ought not decry bloodshed, just because it's tradition?
@@chetmcmasterson Do you complain when the lion kills a deer?
@@Isura101 You don't see a difference between the purposeful behavior of sapient humans and the instinctive behavior of wild animals?
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@@Isura101 yah kinda dumb reply intellegent beings compared to instinctive ones...
Humans will always fight over something , even in the middle of nowhere , says alot about the human race
we make mistakes, we're not robots
The mistakes serve to teach. And the earth is not for man only. It does not belong to humans
@@timlombardini3556 the problem is no one is learning even by the mistakes
Evolution. Learn or pay for it later on. Our job is to keep pointing it out, a reminder. And be the change that we need.
@@timlombardini3556 Do you not think that we have been repeating the same mistakes for thousands of years? I do
To hear George say he wants to off hinself because he feels worthless, and gets the blame for being axed is one of the saddest things ive ever heard, im a grown ass man, i just want to tell him it's not your fault brother...its not your fault.
Seeing that teacher not get paid for years but wanting his community to move forward is inspiring, i am an Aussie, originally from Chile, and i am a product of the wonderful society that Australia is, PNG is a beautiful place with amazing prospects for its future as its rich in natural resources, what they need, is good governance and social change, thank you uploader for this wonderful wonderful documentary
I grew up in the place .……. It’s ALWAYS had tribal conflict
Can you please tell more about it.
Different tribes fight for land women or resources but in the olden days it was done with rules and after fighting there was compensation paid to the victims tribes but today it's different because of the white mans weapon
Donald Trump you could just say guns instead of making it racial, but everyone wants to blame someone. Some people blame races, some blame religions, and the people who know how the world works know when blame is justified and when it isn’t, instead of just blaming it on a different group of people no matter how much influence they actually had. But i guess people just hate to think rationally and would rather find something to argue over, its all over the internet
where do you live now?
@@donaldtrump2107 they just got more potent weapons and could carry out their wishes
"Him fella belong me." (He's my son.) Beautiful language.
erry ting gwarn be ai-ree!
Or "Em pikinini bilong mi"
@@datiller9035 em nau. ol pikini man pikini meri blong mi
4:11 "Now we must makee 800 000" And that's what holds so many traditional societies back right there, very similar to the bantu groups of southern Africa, their not big fans of letting individuals go out and make something of themselves for themselves only., it kills allot of innovation and initiative
MadBad Meerkat No I think he was referring to his own fair share.
Amen. When I saw that part I just thought "Wow, they sound exactly like these entitled "gibs me dat" welfare people in the USA and Europe. It's disgusting, thinking they are owed something when they did nothing for it.
@@SilverfoxJB- In Nigeria the site where I worked was under siege for a few months. Because of tribal demands for ransom...
Long before that episode, among other things, a brand new electrical network was offered, free of charge, either for installation or use/consumption.
In the day of the inauguration, turn switch to ON. Surprise, surprise. Nothing works!!
Local tribal chief stole the connectors and try to "sell" them back to us!
Fuck_ng stupid it was theirs totally free, gratis, no charge and they where trying to get a ransom for it!
As amazing as this might seem there´s so many more stories that most in any civilized place wouldn¨t imagine.
Cheers
@Vaughn reed jr yeah, we white people have always suffered due to our laziness. It's amazing how we managed to conquer the world just by sitting on our asses and to have time for all the major inventions in the 20th century. While those hard working chaps in Africa can't even manage to lay a fucking road or dig a well.
Bang on the money, they think just like blacks in Africa, feel entitlement to take and steal a white mans hard work.
Thank you Joe Lae for being a great pioneer for PNG Coffee growers!!!
Leahy*
@@emmanuelleahy250 maybe he should pronounce it that way then lol
As some New Guineans will tell you, they were better off under the Australians. It was better of as an Australian protectorate. The natives could own the businesses with funding and expertise from Australia. If the market collapses, the Aussies would help put. These people cannot handle market economics
Why would they?
@@dadikkedude No corruption under Australian governorship and good Policing and law services and Australia looked after them fiancially
Yet we would have no right to own our lands, just look at Australian’s natives.
@@roseofsolace you would own your lands. I was not referring to buying PNG land
Most Third World countries were better as colonial possessions
Bob Conolly a common name in the highlands- in the making of first contact and the A great story revisited again ....amazing we have been following your story!
4:59......poor guy......my heart broke for him.....through no fault of his own....
Good documentary, if memory serves me, no land can be mined or developed without the approval of the local Tribes, no matter what the Government says, this was written into their constitution, I believe.....the people have a strong connection to preserving the environment in it natural state for wildlife and essential farming, so it doesn’t surprise me capitalism and private ownership by outsiders will not be accepted...
I'm from here and that your answer as always been our way of living for centuries..
The Indonesians dont respect this thought in irian jaya
😂😂😂 they are animals who are holding back there people in a nasty way
go up there and try and open a mine or other business without full acceptance by the locals in advance... if you don't you will be under continual sabotage, damage and possible attack... until you leave. Permission by the national government means nothing up there... these people are the traditional landowners and really control the area. Although PNG is rich, there are stories from all over about people coming in and starting businesses, and then getting thrown out of the area. Any enterprise that generates money will result in a dispute. Even businesses owned by locals... their own people get jealous and make it impossible for the business to continue. Capitalism by the outsiders? Don't worry, the value of money comes first and foremost there, any opportunity to get money , fairly or otherwise is not lost on them.
Sad that tribalism prevents a group from progressing.
SKY CHAD genetics?
African-Americans should watch this video.In these non white societies tribal war is prevalent.
@@harrypaul7329
I totally agree.
Hey Harry u right, but forgot to add the pink americans need to watch also. Trumpalism seems to be causing tribalism feuding in US; you forgot y'all do it it's called politics.
@@ericchristopheruk I am not white nor am I an USA citizen; i visited the USA and spent 2 months. I have a 10 years visa to the USA.
It's Obama's agenda that is causing the conflict in the USA. It's Obama's ascendance to the presidency that is causing ethnic turmoil in the USA.
Its just tribal people returning to tribal life
Australia subsidises PNG to the tune of around $AUS5.5 million per annum to buy Lamborghinis for visiting foreign dignitaries to drive around in. If Australia cut off the dosh, we all know who's waiting in the wings to fill the gap!! I visited Mt Hagen just after independence. It appears to have gone backwards since then.
Rousseau's myth of the "Noble Savage" goes out the window when you look at facts. Tribal societies were constantly engaged in warfare. One of the reasons the Yonamani reservation is so large in Brazil is to give them ample room to roam without running into rival groups because they will kill any nearby tribe they come in contact with. Western civilization is the best thing that can happen to these tribal societies, even with all the "drawbacks" it might bring.
Because the west isn’t always at war. Your an idiot
That is true. People don't want to believe to, but it is. Tribal and clan warfare has been the norm for millennia.
Joe is awesome, an old time adventurer and real man.
So says white zaddy.
I’ll let my granddad know😁
Such a naturally beautiful place
God blessed him,teaching without getting paid..
Grew up with "Black Harvest", the preceding documentary to this filmed in the 90's. So very sad to see the difference in Joe's circumstance; it is never easy balancing customary practices with modern demands. I too, struggle with this as a Melanesian Pasifika.
Thankyou for sharing that. We all share similar feelings.
The problem with PNG...?
Corruption & greed.
Just like most "things" in life...
I'd also add poverty, which begets desperation, which makes crime and corruption look pretty appealing.
@Mark Honea True, but, at the heart of this is greed and corruption at the highest levels which then trickles down. I spent many months in PNG and saw ALOT. The corruption has been happening for decades. An incredible country, rich in sooo many ways, yet, being exploited by a handful...as usual....
@Mark Honea PNG is a VERY tribal country. Its almost 26 nations within one country, each one wanting more & more.
A previous Prime Minister of PNG has more property investments in Nthn Australia, than wealthy Aussie's do. How does a PM secure multi million dollar deals on a salary that cannot even pay the interest bills?
PNG is riddled with corruption. Its a VERY sad state.
All because of greed....
@Mark Honea The stories I could tell you...
The country is VERY tribal. Those in the highlands (incredible coffee and the weed is soooo next level...) think those in southern areas to be sub human. A system known as "Wontok" runs deep (my brother is your brother and your cousin is my cousin...you hurt mine, I kill yours) also.
Throw in alcohol abuse (white people been abusing it for centuries...indigenous folk, not so....) and drug abuse. Meth is totally out of control.
I have seen guys totally lose their minds after 2 x cans of beer. The fact that I could down 15 bottles and still walk (with 0 anger) had some thinking I was a God (yep, that still happens).
PNG is truly one of the greatest countries on Earth. The people (the good one's...) are incredibly hospitable and cant do enough, but, exploitation and corruption has ruined the place.
@Mark Honea The problems in PNG are many fold. Unemployment and lack of a decent education (in remote communities) are contributing factors. We are talking about people who in some instances are living as though they have escaped time (no electricity, subsistence farming, dirt floors in huts, etc.).
A "modern..." world collides with indigenous folk. You either move on or move into jail is how its described to me now by friends still living there (who carry firearms on their person and in cars whilst travelling).
Ever since I was young I've always had a weird Fascination with Papua New Guinea.
hey and where are you from? and don't tell me your fascination is only about trubal war coz we are more than that
@@mayreacts8030 Oh god no its much more than that. I love the diversity of Languages. I love the diversity and ecosystems. I think it's so cool how on the coast there are some of the most beautiful tropical rainforest in the world and then you get into the highlands and it's an amazing beautiful temperate ecosystem. The natural beauty of the island is incredible.The animals there are awesome too with tree kangaroos, birds-of-paradise in Sing Sing Dogs The history of the island also fascinates me and something I would love to learn more about. I know that the banana was first domesticated there and they believe that they were the first farmers In a tropical region in the world. I am American and I am also a big student of WW2 and PNG and Bougainville campaigns are definitely another fascinating chapter if that islands history. I am from the southern US and we do pig roasts all the time so I love how that is a big thing in PNG too. I want to visit PNG take part in a sing-sing eat some pork and go bird watching.
Same I love the outfits and the crazy jungle environment they live in
Mate you can come visit PNG, and this video was taken in my village. Can take you there, if you can find you way here.
If you make it, try the Cultural shows. There’s one in August, it’s called “ Mount Hagen Cultural Show”. Want to know more, hot me up.
Really interesting doc. A good example of the difficulties that can arise between different systems of land tenure and ownership; the lease hold of central government in contrast to the regional forms of tribal land distribution .PNG is such a beautiful place
Day 29 of Quarantine: I don’t even know what I’m watching anymore!
same here
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Pretty sure I've watched all of TH-cam and read all of Wikipedia at this point.
@@williamjameslehy1341 times two here.
Important history
“Bigpla diwai pudaun em liklik diwai kam antap”. Truer and strong words.
Wakanda without vibranium.
Eric Fowler LOL!!
we’re not talking about black people in general, we’re talking about tribalism
tribalism is fine. This is a race problem. they're like this. race is not colour, and black is not a race
There not black you idiot there aboriginals you CRACK HEAD
These people aren't Africans.
Tribalism is the root ideology behind socialism and communism.What you see is the inevitable result of collectivism.They hold themselves in the stone age and when an individual progresses the larger group drags them back in the name of the tribe (collective).
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Japan is an imperialistic society.
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That's not to say you are incorrect.Imperialism is one road a society could take once the ancient tribal culture has imploded.Socialism/Communism is another while we have gone further towards "self-governence" in western societies.I realize that we aren't quite a society of "self-governing" individuals but it seems that we may be at that crossroad in history where we decide whether we will go that route or go quite another.
Japan had a traditionally feudal society and a 250 year policy of isolationism, but forced themselves to adopt a more open and more imperialistic national policy after the humiliation of the Perry Expeditions.
However as we all know the Japanese went WAY too far in their newfound imperial ambitions with devastating consequences in 1945.
No nationalism is related to tribalism
capitalism is hypocritical and so is your post. You are quick to falsely interpret the tribal mentality dragging down individual fat cats but you don't realize plenty of amazon indians live in harmony a happy life well organized and functional as a tribe. Only when such tribes way of life is hindered and stopped by outside destruction of habitat and enforcing stupid western values on them does their healthy tribal system collapse to degenerate destructive forces. Tribalism has nothing to do with communism at all. Capitalism is an evil that enforces plutocracies and oligarchies run by banksters and idle market speculators who don't produce positive work but live on the back of others and should be exterminated. Communism is an utopia and i am not defending it, but capitalism is evil to the core. Only royalism is good and is the model followed by nature as well which we are part of.
Home sweet home, the very place that has chosen to be, feeling blessed because there were so many communities around the country but they chose Ganaka is a blessing to us❤️❤️❤️
You have no idea how quickly these Papuans can run up and down hills and across rough ground, the Australian Army has attempted to train the Papuan Army but the family, clan and tribal customs and payback customs are just to binding to impose effective military discipline. They just cannot agree to disagree but still work for the common good if they did it could be one of the best countries in the world.
I come from a Tea plantation background ,my Father was a tea Planter in the Hills of South India and so can identify with a lot shown in this clip.The only way I think a venture like coffee plantations and processing faculties would work in a place like this is a cooperative ...A venture that local Papauns own ...Managed by people like Joe.You cant be a millionaire in the middle of no where with people who slog for you just manage to scrap a living....the profits need to go back ...need to be shared.No longer can one ( anywhere) exploit indegenous people and thrive.Take them along and everyone will do just fine.Also as a Horticulturist and a food professional I would recommend not sticking with a single crop ....coffee needs to be combined with other crops carefully selected after studying local climate conditions and the potential for markets for these other crops.A sustainably grown ....ethically managed venture is managed correctly and marketed brillaintly does succeed and there are too many success stories with similar issiues to learn and take inspiration from
When I attended Purdue University I met one of the first young women from this country to attend college here in the US, I had no idea the history behind her culture it’s very interesting
This country is absolutely beautiful it just needs better leadership
Papa Joe! Greeting from Indonesia! Hats off and huge respect for you!
14:11 a true hero!
So one guy built everything up through hard work and intelligence,then others in a jealous rage destroyed it. The phrase cut off your nose to spite your face comes to mind. As for being self sufficient,I really don't see that kind of destruction as being self sufficient. When they are growing their food and tending to their families without attacking others in a fit of jealous rage,that's when they are being self sufficient.
T Ritchie
It wasn’t a jealous rage ....it was because one tribe simply attacked another man and it was revenge rage
No the tribe did all the work of planting and picking at this coffee plantation and were not making a good wage because coffee prices plummeted the first year they had a proper crop and then the war started. The dismal coffee market had a lot to do with the rage the people felt and Joe had a 60% to 40% split with the ENTIRE tribe working the fields. The financial banks were relentless too on Joe because of a huge loan so everyone involved got stuck in a quagmire. It is a sad story of greed that stretches back to colonialism. The whites always tried to take advantage of the tribal workers from the beginning. They paid them in shells and iron axe heads for the first decade or so when they were mining GOLD instead of giving them proper REAL money and literally stole their wealth. Joe at least was trying to pay them but even he took advantage some of the situation. A sad story..
that is the inevitable conclusion of any enterprise up there, you try to generate money, someone gets jealous... and it's all over. Happens every time.
Are we just going to ignore the armless kid writing with his feet? That was fucking insane.
AHHHHH YESSSS, his name is Emmanuel same as mine he is an awesome friend man I miss him
His penmanship beats mine by a mile, it’s incredible
You know why I disliked this video? Because the title is very misleading, it really set off my aralm bell. Papua New Guinea is still very much a tribal society, they have not fully transcended into a country. Therefor "Tribal Conflict Has Devasted Papua New Guinea" is not correct, because this is how it has always been there and will be for many years to come.
mimimimi
How sad they blame the guy for being axed when they were the ones who chose to go to war over it and now they treat him like it’s his fault this is so sad I pray for these people to see the truth in their own actions and I pray for good things to come their way and for education
U sound ignorant as hell
At least this channel doesnt feel the need to voice over the parts where they’re already speaking clear english
"We have met our enemy, and he is us" -someone really smart (not me).
chromeinox
Pogo (?) ...
@@fjb4932 yes
So sad. They could be picking wonderful coffee and making money instead; they rather shoot arrows at each other.
Right !!! Literately 1 day from from them all having it made. Wow, at the point, I'm like, sleep in the bed you made.
I have so much respect for these people, hard life. I wish some private equity could flow into these places to give them some hope and use the land for good.
You can not just flood in free things into an uneducated society all it does is cause more fighting and stops any of the self productivity.
Jim is now running Kilima and exporting Nebilyer coffee. He's also trialing cocoa, honey and vanilla. Kilima is back to life. We need another documentary on this.
any videos on youtube about this?
During the glory days of the plantation I was there as a small boy and my father was a driver of one of Joe's truck. A very beautiful place to live, the memories still fresh in my mind. ❤❤❤
There's much more to this story than we are being shown. My first question is why that man was so brutally attacked? Did he do something to cause the attack? Why would his tribe go to war over this and then blame him for the war. He must have done something wrong is my guess.
Greed
Agreed
Sad, but it is the reality people face in PNG. The absence of Govt, and their corruption has lead this country to the situation we see here in this video. Small minded people and wrong interpretation of custom values hold the development, investor also think thousand times before they work here. Joe and his family was actually the best way out they could get. Instead of having better life in Australia, Joe stay with them. But in the past people easily provocated by another stupid people, and looks like nothing actually change since then.. Sad..
WOW, I see this a whole other way in which tribes are important and the governments have ruined everything. You want true freedom? They have it and they have a purpose to live unlike the government coming in and saving the day while also ruining their way of life. Seems like you do not have a connection with your ancestors. If they were still hunters and gatherers, there may also be less war. Did you know that class warfare and slavery came after agriculture and civilizations formed? Try and connect what that means.
god bless you bob conolly this is great
I guess you need some armed security to run business in such place.
Yessir, especially dogs they’ll work harder
14:40 does that man have a Pay Pal account?. I'd like to donate to help him in his endeavors to continue to help these children. Can we post books or school materials to the school?. Thanks
Nope but it could be other ways..
I love to listen to that pidgin!
The reporter didn't mention that the tribal fight started because of the coffee plantation. The tribes fought themselves. The only reason the plantation was destroyed was because it was situated in the war zone. The destruction to properties was caused by enemies of the tribe that gave land to the plantation owner who live "all around the plantation". This comment if for those that understood the video at face value without understanding the culture of the locals and have commented like experts way below.
I love it too. I speak pidgin indonesian. I know quite a bit of bhs Indonesian but not quite enough. Me and my friends understand each other, we hobble along together 😁
Mi laikim lainim Tok Pisin. Em numbawan.
Michael Black you sound stupid
@Michael Black Yep, just stupid in your own special way. No one can relate to your stupidity. Have fun!!
This is sad.
Well documented, thanks!
Man Joe's story is truly sad. The guy worked his butt off and established something, even tried to help jealous neighbors set up so they could also become rich, and then everything is torn away from him by Jealousy and stupidity. Its crazy how success is viewed as something to be hated but envied by so many people.
The key is @24:06. Understanding of property and leases. In PNG land property is community owned. In Australia, they want to sign 99 year lease?!?!? WTH?!? Who has ever heard of signing a 99 year lease? Oh! As in Hong Kong? or in Panama with the canal? or with American Indians? See a pattern. "Tribal" conflicts happen when there is no "judge" to settle conflicts (dwindling resources). Children of PNG should return and progress their people. We need to fix our own problems. Onelove!
they speaks creole english, but their way of thinking remains.
They speak Melanesian Pidgin.
The language is called "Tok Pisin."
It's still a creole language 🤓
@@applecom1de509 Hi applecom1de! Actually, a creole language technically is a pidgin that becomes a mother tongue. Though Tok Pisin is the prime mode of communication in some urban area/slums, a language that a few people in the last two decades have been born into, in the highlands - where this documentary takes place - everyone Papua New Guinean depicted has a tribal language. There's actually over 800 languages in PNG. So yes, in a very few places it is now a creole language, but not broadly, not even close. It's just a pidgin. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Naispla na Trupla documentary. Thank you Bob.
"I was here filming the fighting until it got too dangerous" wtf
Wdym
I’m surprised that there aren’t any racist comments
And that makes me happy
e Jones what
You brought it up!
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Until you.
LOL!
jon bush until me? i’m glad that there’s no racist comments i’m saying it’s a good thing that nobody was racist
Why im watching this at 1 am i have to work
Papa Joe sendirian berjuang disana. Mungkin dulu di tanah air kita, Papua barat banyak kisah seperti Papa Joe. Jangan biarkan Papa Joe berjuang sendirian. Mari kita majukan Papua Barat! Torang samua basudara!
PNG, beautiful place and beautiful people. I loved everytime I was there, BUT it's a crazy ples. LOL.
Was this recorded in Chicago?
Alec Prince why r u stupid?
Lmao 😂 😂😂😂
lololol good one
i think you missed the joke
It was recorded in your daddy's backyard:-)
We haven’t had good coffee in the states since they shot Pablo Escobar
Joseph Winkler ..I think you are confusing coffee for cocaine.
@@remlatzargonix1329 lol
I always say it. Its our own people that destroy eachother its start from us. Im not PNG but i am a coloured person and coloured people around the world have that problem
Seems the "Problem" started when the white man came.
not indians.
Sam Ludu indians included
@@WoogleWimpy Is that why you had to thumb up your own comment?? 😂😂. Let me show you just how full of shit you are with your typical whitewashed denial. Name one place >>JUST ONE
What a good son Jim is.
They fight so much Joe should think about opening an MMA fight-to-death club instead of growing coffee. People would be happy and Joe would be rich again 😂
I saw the original documentary many years ago and never fotgot it and allways wandered what has haapened ever since….So happy to see this one now as well👍👍🇳🇱
I think war is inherent tô human, no matter The levei of civilization
I love him teaching u educate the people soon they will be able to start their own economy growth hold on people we were brought here as slaves l can't describe what we went through this guy talking about him making millions
This tribal conflicts in lands, such as this, is what happens when wipeepo get involved in OTHER PEOPLES BUSINESS. Papua New Guinea has been messed with by the dutch (who also had Australia), Americans and the British. If they stopped messing about other people's affairs, there would be less of this bullshit .
The Dutch were not even interested in dry, poor Australia with their primitive people. They had Indonesia....
Thank you for allowing outsiders to peek into another time. The thing which caught my attention is the degree of confusion in terms of what the issues are. In the ideal world we would take care of each other. In the real world its a case of who is able to exploit the other. Almost everything is against Papua New Guinea. Beginning with name New Guinea. For goodness sake 'Guinea' is a Portuguese word. Poor old Joe. He wouldn't easily see what happened. He wasn't a failure. He was too successful. The big players obviously weren't happy to see an independent starter in a place with so much potential. All the indigenous people of Papua deserve to be protected. It ought to be easy. Leave them alone.
What do they fight over exactly?
Land rights, water rights, past slights, perceived aggression, women, because it`s traditional..same as everyone else.
Женя . for land they don't want los like American Indians
@@geesigunirifayso305 = idiot
anything, but the big nono's up there (cause of fights) are property rights, stealing pigs, stealing women (adultery)... they are the big nono's. IN addition any possible excuse to argue with anyone from outside the tribe works well too. It will be a money thing or 'kompensation' for some real or imagined damage or personal slight (hurt feelings).
I used to work in the fields trimming apricots Graves pairs olive trees. To fix us coffee bean plants cut off the suckers and leave the old branches and trim the suckers off the old branches
Jimmy that's your family and ancestral land.
Hang on to it!!!!!
European colonization never did a dam good thing human destruction
So, what happened to Popina?
All he wanted was for his tribe to prosper but all his tribesmen cared about was fighting
Popna died in 2004.
Business turns them into,fringe dwellers..tribal life has it's own richness & balance...respect"
Poor People!
If only the government of PNG can see the potential business in this area...it'll benefit the people, and PNG's economy. So sad the government won't look into it. It'll be PNG's fault
I initially supported West Papua to be separated from Indonesia, but now after seeing this documentary, I feel it would be better if West Papua was still in Indonesian hands. because I believe that if West Papua were separated from Indonesia, West Papua would be more chaotic than PNG. especially between PNG and West Papua have the same culture and according to some sources I read there are often tribal wars in West Papua, but they can be suppressed by the Indonesian military and police so that bad things like the Karida massacre can be prevented and between top brass of the organization of The West Papuan liberation also does not get along and each wants to be the leader of the West Papua if it free from Indonesia and that can also lead to civil war
True, this people are still tribalistic. Need some other country to force them to stop their ways or either let one tribe dominate the other tribe so that this war couldn't, happen.
They are not ready to be modernize
@23:48 and again I'm broke into tears, after that teacher did
Joe is willing to stay. Government needs to assist him now. A sad tale if this farm isn't revived.
i like to talk to you
your mail Id please
@@babupalackal9614 🤣😂🤣😂
That teacher needs a Nobel prize.
I went to visit my uncle and aunty in PNG in about 1974. My cousin who was about 5 when i went there was never able to keep a kitten for long the locals used to steal them and cook them up. I also read where two Highlanders got convicted for digging up a body and using it to make soup. It made the paper there when I was there. They had one set of lights in Port Morsby and a Highlander dressed in his tribal wear used to wave his stick at the lights thinking he had the power to change the lights. No doubt nearly 50 years on is more civilised. I remember lot of locals had red teeth from chewing on the beetle nut. Great holiday and plenty more stories I am remembering now :)
Thanks for sharing your experience with us. Insightful.
PNG, Africa...doing so great after independence