Hi there, unfortunately, those fasteners types are not in the Protocase Designer library yet. (*But*, it is on our roadmap for our developers to add them. We can let you know once that is complete). In the meantime, you can add in other fasteners by using the Import Component feature and importing a STEP file of the fastener. You can source the STEP file for any fastener by going to PennEngineering's website and searching the model number of the fastener you need. This tutorial shows you how to import a component as a STEP file and add it to your personal library: th-cam.com/video/JUgmo6B_PA0/w-d-xo.html
Can self-clinching 6-32 nuts be installed in aluminum sheet with a 1-ton arbor press? Can the 0.1875 hole be drilled (3/16"), or is it necessary to actually punch the hole? Thanks!
Hey there, so most self-clinching fasteners are inserted using a PEMserter machine with special tooling designed for different types of Penn-Engineering fasteners (PEMs). As far as we're aware, the style of PEM nut you mention CAN be installed using 1-ton arbor press since it doesn't require a "special" tool, but the nut will likely not clinch as well. The required pressure to insert into steel is 3,000-6,000 lbs, while the pressure required to insert into stainless steel is 9,500 lbs, according to pemnet.com. The holes can be drilled, as long as attention is paid to the hole size tolerance.
Hey there, don't have much to share officially about DIY'ing these installs, since we can only speak to our processes. We checked with some folks on our engineering team, and they mentioned things like an arbor press, or smaller hand tools from Penn Engineering to install certain types of fasteners. But we can't offer any specific guidance beyond that!
Hey Michael, we checked with our engineering team, and they mentioned a few ideas: -Using a flush stud on one side, and a hex nut on the other (so it would only be flush on one side). This is quite commonly done. -Another option that would yield close to flush on both sides would be using a flush nut (such as a F-832-1) that does not protrude, then countersinking the opposite piece and using a 1/4" screw. Hope this helps!
Hey there, thanks for your question. Studs need to be inserted through a press. The only self-clinching fastener that can be inserted using a hand tool are self-clinching nuts.
Hello @@ProtocaseInc ! Yes I checked out this tool although, I am needing to install M8 and it is beyond the capacity of that tool. I am still waiting on a quote from your company on a project! I am excited and hoping you guys can help me out!
I have the proper size hole, but stud is not going all the way flush. Only have a small arbor press. I guess it is not big enough to install flush? anyone have a clue how many tons are required for a pemstud to go flush in aluminum. it calls for a .163 hole
Hey there, we mask all internal and external fastener threads using silicone caps and plugs. More info here (and a few photos): www.protocase.com/products/materials-components-finishes/finishes/masking.php. Keeps the threads clean throughout the powdercoating process! :)
Where are the right angle fasteners, or the panel fasteners, or the tie-mount fasteners? I can't find any of them in the protocase library.
Hi there, unfortunately, those fasteners types are not in the Protocase Designer library yet. (*But*, it is on our roadmap for our developers to add them. We can let you know once that is complete).
In the meantime, you can add in other fasteners by using the Import Component feature and importing a STEP file of the fastener. You can source the STEP file for any fastener by going to PennEngineering's website and searching the model number of the fastener you need.
This tutorial shows you how to import a component as a STEP file and add it to your personal library: th-cam.com/video/JUgmo6B_PA0/w-d-xo.html
Can self-clinching 6-32 nuts be installed in aluminum sheet with a 1-ton arbor press? Can the 0.1875 hole be drilled (3/16"), or is it necessary to actually punch the hole? Thanks!
Hey there, so most self-clinching fasteners are inserted using a PEMserter machine with special tooling designed for different types of Penn-Engineering fasteners (PEMs). As far as we're aware, the style of PEM nut you mention CAN be installed using 1-ton arbor press since it doesn't require a "special" tool, but the nut will likely not clinch as well. The required pressure to insert into steel is 3,000-6,000 lbs, while the pressure required to insert into stainless steel is 9,500 lbs, according to pemnet.com. The holes can be drilled, as long as attention is paid to the hole size tolerance.
do you have any tips to DIY these install for small volume & small project users?
Hey there, don't have much to share officially about DIY'ing these installs, since we can only speak to our processes.
We checked with some folks on our engineering team, and they mentioned things like an arbor press, or smaller hand tools from Penn Engineering to install certain types of fasteners. But we can't offer any specific guidance beyond that!
@@ProtocaseInc that is enough of a guidance, thanks for the response!
what is the best fastening method to attach (and be removable) 2 pieces of 1/8" thick aluminum. One side or both should be flush.
Hey Michael, we checked with our engineering team, and they mentioned a few ideas:
-Using a flush stud on one side, and a hex nut on the other (so it would only be flush on one side). This is quite commonly done.
-Another option that would yield close to flush on both sides would be using a flush nut (such as a F-832-1) that does not protrude, then countersinking the opposite piece and using a 1/4" screw.
Hope this helps!
Can the self clinching stud be installed with hand tools ?
Hey there, thanks for your question. Studs need to be inserted through a press. The only self-clinching fastener that can be inserted using a hand tool are self-clinching nuts.
@@ProtocaseInc what kind of hand tool?
@@jbpasion071 Hey there, we use something similar to this: www.pemnet.com/presses/pemserter-installation-equipment/
Ours is mounted to a worktable.
Hello @@ProtocaseInc ! Yes I checked out this tool although, I am needing to install M8 and it is beyond the capacity of that tool. I am still waiting on a quote from your company on a project! I am excited and hoping you guys can help me out!
@@jbpasion071 Awesome!
I have the proper size hole, but stud is not going all the way flush. Only have a small arbor press. I guess it is not big enough to install flush? anyone have a clue how many tons are required for a pemstud to go flush in aluminum. it calls for a .163 hole
Hi Richard, Penn Engineering's website may have that information readily available: www.pemnet.com/
how do you keep the thread clean during & after powder coating?
Hey there, we mask all internal and external fastener threads using silicone caps and plugs. More info here (and a few photos): www.protocase.com/products/materials-components-finishes/finishes/masking.php. Keeps the threads clean throughout the powdercoating process! :)
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