i grew up in tulsa and it's actually really ridiculous how many people can grow up there, go to school there, live their whole life there and not know hardly anything about the race riot other than the name. literally just today i saw someone on facebook from tulsa comment on a post about the aerial bombing thing and claimed they didn't think it was actually true and they'd have to "do some research." it's just not taught in the way that it should be. the only reason i learned as much about it as i did in school was because my middle school was in the former greenwood neighborhood so every year sixth grade social studies does a project on it. i never learned brady was a klansmen though so that's fun.
@@michaelrichter4941 Whoever started or caused it to be called a race riot is just another cover up to add to this piece of history. Race massacre, what could have been if places and people like this were just allowed to prosper and grow.
madelyn woah a person said they didn’t know too much about something to form an opinion on and instead of trusting you they decided to wait till they could research it crazy
This is changing though. I live in Tulsa. There is a lot more public recognition of the race riot and better attempts are made to teach it in schools. The mayor's recent budget provides money to search for mass graves. The fact that Brady was a klansman was only brought to public attention about 10 years ago and since then the Brady Arts District and Brady street were renamed. A reconciliation park has been built. Tulsa still has a big problem with segregation and wealth disparities, but at least there is public acknowledgement and we are moving in the right direction.
You should look into the (de)development of LaVilla, one of the most vibrant communities within Jacksonville, and largely populated with foreign immigrants and black soldiers who retired after the civil war. Dominated by its connections to the railroad industry, and directly connected to earliest black street car suburbs, the neighborhood was the birthplace of James Weldon Johnson and was where Ray Charles started performing. Stephen Crane married a LaVilla brothel owner, and the term "Blues" was first recorded being used there. Zora Neale Hurston spent a lot of time there and it was often called the "Harlem of the South." In the 60s, a civil rights defense group called "The Boomerang Gang" would fight for the neighborhood during Ax Handle Saturday. Then, in the mid to late 60s, it was carved into with a highway, the train station was shut down, the trains were rerouted, the streetcars torn up, the city consolidated the entire county in a controversial and corrupt land grab, and yet the neighborhood continued to limp on. Then, the city began to shut off services, the area became known as a terrible slum, and in the early 90s, the entire neighborhood was leveled, apart from three or four buildings that were listed as historic. The city evicted the entire neighborhood to the Ambassador Hotel until that was shut down in 1998. This was done with a giant "River City Renaissance" initiative, with the money for "rebuilding" used to construct the Jacksonville Landing (yes, the one from the shooting) a few miles away closer to the downtown. The neighborhood is still mostly grasslots with small plaques next to them, though recently cheap, low-income "lofts" started being constructed in the area. The only reminder of what the neighborhood truly was is a small former grocery store that is now known as the "Whetstonian." A man named Whetstone bought the property while the city began leveling the neighborhood, and managed to force the city to reconnect the water and power to his building. He then proceeded to cover the entire thing in memorabilia and art and knickknacks from the old neighborhood, including mirrors, tiles, and sculptures. He died recently, and the building is quickly deteriorating, but it's the last testament to the lives that once bustled in a place that is now empty.
Holy crap I've lived in jax my entire life and I had no idea about this. I've always wondered why the Ritz Theater was sitting there all alone right next to the highway. It's kind of disgusting how it used to be a booming culture hub and now most of downtown is owned by a baptist megachurch that pays no property tax and tries to block any development they don't like.
@@LarkEnhal also it feels really odd seeing another Jacksonvillain/jaxson/other Bs name for someone from Jacksonville in the comments of a channel I like
It's a really great analysis and I'm glad it's bringing attention to these issues. Also, for more information on Jacksonville and its history, look up JaxPsychoGeo and theJaxsonmag. They've got a lot of really interesting articles about the history and current politics of the city and others with similar populations
as a native Tulsan I appreciated this episode. Luckily I went to high school pretty recently and actually learned about this in history class, but I've found a lot of people have no idea that black wall street existed or the sheer scale of the riot, even if they generally knew about the event. The area of tulsa north of downtown is still heavily black, but with the basic destruction of greenwood the vast majority of it is extremely poor and underserved by services like bus transit or even grocery stores, just as an example of how it's ended up today. (The current mayor actually campaigned on rectifying racial disparities between north tulsa and the rest of the city, so that's... something.)
Often, but not always: when a bunch of armed, murderous racists turns up, a sheriff and a handful of deputies - or a shift of cops - hasn't got a real chance of surviving if the mob decides to assault the building, so they're left to judge whether the arseholes are determined or not, and whether they want to die for some guy in a cell.
@@williamchamberlain2263 if we can't trust cops to risk their lives to "protect and serve" the defenseless when a racist mob rolls in (which we can't) then it sounds to me like like the entire institution is literally less than worthless (which it is) I legit don't know if you intended to defend the cops or not but Jesus Christ
Thank you for hi-lighting this tragic event. Greenwood was obviously created as a safe space where African Americans could flourish in a peaceful environment, a safe space isolated from the worst effects of segregation. This is a perfect example of "Making lemonade from lemons" - resisting segregation from within. One aspect you don't mention is how Greenwood and its wealthy black residents were viewed by Tulsa's white population. Was there envy? Resentment? If there was that underlying tension of "who do those uppity n*****s think they are"? then were the circumstances that led to the lynch mob a convenient excuse for the escalating violence in order to teach "them N's a lesson"? Such a shameful event in US history. A story that should be more widely known. Its the kind of subject matter you'd expect Spike Lee to tackle in a movie. Didn't Harlem in NYC provide a similar environment for African American's? A safer space that allowed Black owned businesses and culture to develop?
Excellent point, the white population demanded "separate but equal" but became envious when they saw the black population thriving. It is not a coincidence that they attacked and wiped out the businesses
@@jessicam9625 Who poked you in the eye with a a stick?You are talking errant nonsense. The views and opinions of white residents ARE important as they are central to the events that took place. No demographic is more important than the other -A 360 degree perspective is required to fully understand the event- to place in context, they ALL matter when searching for truth.
No, Moutton Noir - Jessica M is right. The whole thing is just about what happened based on documented research and accounts, clearly. I highly doubt there could’ve been enough documentation or even anecdotes from the angry white mob analyzing what their feelings were... that they were actually envious of the well off black folks, insecure and afraid of losing power (hint: it’s always that!). I don’t think any of them would have been so self aware, much less have said it out loud. But to OP’s [your**] original point, this discussion (though maybe not as psychoanalytical as you wanted) WAS entire last few minutes of the video. Why racists do racist shit just ain’t that hard nor is it very interesting anymore. [Edit: didn’t realize you were the OP, Black Sheep]
This video makes me incredibly angry because I know there are STILL people in America today who are just as prejudiced and racist as the people you talk about in this video. The fact that it's been quashed in education is revolting. The community needs to own up to what they did, even if it was committed by the grandparents of the current population.
/especially/ if it was committed by the grandparents of the current population, your pop pop being racist at thanksgiving isn’t as harmless as he’d like you to believe
here in Russia it rhymes so much, there is a HUGE amount of ex soviet muslims (from Uzbekistan, Kazahstan and etc), they are basically treated like the blacks in these years maybe without a KKK but this is a ticking time bomb, the sad thing is it's not different in the rest of the world and a lot of nations aren't really tolerant to muslims nowdays (because 1.5 billion people happen to did 9/11....) even on the St. petersburg metro terror the news first mentioned that the attacker was an Uzbek. i hope it will become better
On another hand some of fastest developing regions in Russia is Chechenia that is predominately Muslim. Could Chechenia be some sort of Greenwood equivalent? Is there a difference in treatment of Muslims native to Russian republic and those that originate from other USSR states?
They are treated like Mexican refugees basically. They’re not thrown in cages (yet), but almost always used as a source of a cheap labour, underpaid and live in terrible conditions. Society treats them awfully, talking same shit about ‘taking jobs’ as racists do anywhere else. Nobody thinks about protecting their rights, even self-claimed leader of unorganized opposition made restricting immigration from muslim countries (former ussr republics) a part of his political agenda. People from russian Muslim republics are treated horribly nonetheless. Yes, they are treated more like black people in US - there’s no segregation and people can live anywhere they want, but the prejudice is still strong. They get arrested more often, police always checks their IDs and stuff, and people tend to hate them, calling them terrorists and rapists. About how Chechnya’s developing, well, rich and people close to government have all the money. Common folks still live pretty much in poverty and have absolutely no protection whatsoever, they’re often killed for being critical of the government or being gay. Sadly, not much news coming from there because elites close to government basically hold their control and don’t let any piece of unwanted information slip.
Killing gays, killing for being critical of government and tautologies like "rich and people close to government have all the money" is rather clear cut propaganda. Treating Chechens as Mexican immigrants is rather idiotic claim as Chechens are Russian citizens thus not subject to deportation. Form what i have seen most of anti Chechen and anti immigrant sentiments comes from right wing opposition elements sponsored by US like Nemcov and Nazbols
The new episode of Watchmen opened with a recreation of the Tulsa Riots and it took me a second to figure out where I'd heard about it, but then I remembered this video.
I can't believe I had never heard of this before this week after watching Watchmen on HBO. I usually have a good grasp on history but has NEVER heard of this or read of this in any history book. How is something this big not a huge section of the history of not just Okla but the Country as a whole. This is crazy AF
The Philando Castile case was so bad, I had an uncle leave the NRA for it. This guy is a kinda nutty gun dude, but even he went "fuck that racist bullshit. Guy had every right to have that gun."
I grew up in Tulsa and barely knew anything about this by the time I graduated high school. The "Tulsa Race Riot" got name checked occasionally but very little beyond the name was ever mentioned. At the time I graduated high school death estimates were something like "between 6 and 2,000". Theres been a lot of work done in the last 20 years though to clarify a lot of what happened.
@@RS-jh2kl chopped cheese is a cheap imitation from a state so pathetic they have to share custody of the island it's most famous monument rests on with new Jersey.
Thank you so much for covering this. And giving it the appropriate context, not calling it a riot or being vague. And explaining the context of how Greenwood was truly assaulted. And thank you for recognizing that class reductionism isn't always the correct lense.
Interesting note: 80's R&B/Funk powerhouse "The GAP Band" took their name from Greenwood, Archer and Pine, i.e. the Black Wallstreet section of Tulsa...which I've known since I was 10 or 11 years old (mid-80's), I did not know about the massacre until I was north of 30 (mid 2000's) because this sh*t is not included in text books...see also: Wilmington, NC "race riot", "Red Summer" of 1919...😕
Thank you for this presentation. I appreciate you getting art licenses to take the time to reconstruct the history of a uprising community of Greenwood. I can deeply tell u gather ur facts accurately. Thank u again. They really should teach this economic development schemes in our American school. Conflicting this social. I will join ur patron.. This is my first time watching ur channel let me tell u the weeping i did listen to the Truth. It hurt so bad i wanted to stop, however My my ancestors wouldn't let me. So I continue to watch and as hard as it was to continue watch I got through it just like how we did? Again thank you for putting this lovely documentary together
I know this is from forever ago but as someone who grew up there, it's called Sand Springs, not Sandy Springs. A lot of people even from the area get it wrong though so don't worry too much about it lol. When I was in school we only had a few sentences in a history book about the Tulsa race massacre unfortunately so I didn't know very much about it for a long time. This has been super informative for me and seeing how the literal landscape has changed since is wild to me.
This was reallu good. Has left me with a lot to think about. Here in Ireland things are quiet now, but with the break down of neoliberal capitalism in progress, I worry that old wounds mighy re-open. And as a Socialist and a trans person. I am very conscious of how my own safety and the safety of my friebds may be at great risk.
As an Okie I can attest to the vast number of even Oklahomans who have had this event hidden from them. With access to the internet and with the brief shift in public focus during the summers of 2020 and 2021 thanks to the efforts of local BLM chapters, folks outside of Tulsa may have started to reverse that erasure. However, our current state leadership is just as fascist as ever. I'm honestly disappointed I didn't see this video sooner. I watched your Cities: Skylines series on power and urban planning policy back in 2019, and it didn't play an unsizeable role in my eventual shift towards leftist politics and local organizing efforts. I'm happy I stumbled back on your channel and saw this gem. Based, as the kids would say. Thanks again for what you contribute to the world. Love and solidarity from central OK.
Segregation was dumb and bad. BUT suddenly the support for black separatism back in the 60s makes sense. After all, segregation wasn't equal but it wasn't even really separate, it depended on free movement of capital from black neighborhoods to white neighborhoods.
@Geli....A most compelling point of view. It wouldn't be a question of either segregation or separatism if black America were to emulate the economic formula that led to remarkable progress for all the Asian communities, Vietnamese, Laotian, Korean, Chinese and Japanese. Dr. King might well have included more black enterprise voices in his crusade. Many a lesson could've been learned. For example, the Negro baseball league, ironically under segregation, spawned many an economic enterprise that kept the black dollar floating around within the community before leaving it. As it stands, we see a flood of black dollars away from the community. Good point, Geli. No, my point does not support either segregation or separatism, merely asks that we emulated the economic success models seen in the various Asian communities.
@J K ...I respect your point of view. Only I ask you to do this: when you visit Los Angeles, please tour the Baldwin Hills section, said to be the black Beverly Hills of the West Coast. If you're ever in Texas, please visit a well kept, affluent suburb of Dallas called De Soto. Or perhaps on the East Coast, visit the Oak Bluff section of Martha's Vineyard. I suspect you might find your point of view contradicted. In all these aforementioned sites, we have not so much a question of segregation, since there are no laws forcing separation. On the contrary, you'd find gatherings among peoples of similar core values and economic station. I wouldn't, for that reason, call the affluent Asian communities in Orange county segregated. There is, after all, a difference.
@@ccaammiinniiito2 The fact that you mentioned the Asian communities shows exactly how clueless you are. Black Americans did exactly that -- and they were rewarded with having their communities systematically dismantled.
@@TheXL2013 Indeed they were destroyed or devalued or had highways run through their neighborhoods thereby removing economic value from them. Even when black businesses were thriving, there were still problems with lack of investment and segregation and redlining. Then there's this shit in the video which happened to almost any prosperous black district except in Durham.
Lynching,noun, a form of violence in which a mob, under the pretext of administering justice without trial, executes a presumed offender, often after inflicting torture and corporal mutilation. The term lynch law refers to a self-constituted court that imposes sentence on a person without due process of law.
The part starting at 24:28 was very interesting. Does anyone have any literature (book recommendations, articles, etc.) that backs up the claim that capitalism, in an effort to protect itself, often devolves into fascism and racism, and spares no sympathy for wealthy people that belong to the targeted classes? I've never heard this particular criticism of capitalism before and I'm interested.
Congratulations to all Oklahomans for examining a sorrowful episode in Tulsa that took place some 100 years ago. Dr. Booker T. Washington must be smiling. Here's hoping the citizens of Sherman, TX., agree to do with same, that is, examine the Sherman Riots of 1930, where a parallel episode of race strife took place.
The problem isn't that the armed men might have triggered the conflict, the problem is armed men failed to be enough prevent Greenwood from being burned down. Not to mention, when Greenwood was rebuilt, it was stunted by problems too complex to simply shoot at. I don't say this as if it's an easy solution, but it appears ultimately the only effective security, is security gained through shared organization between oppressed people regardless of race, class or gender. It's easy to steamroll an "other", no matter how many guns they have.
Exactly. Left wing objection to gin control doesn't make any sense to me. It might feel better to imagine going down in a blaze of glory but you're going down anyway. Armed militias aren't a danger to the system at all. Proliferation of guns to the degree we have in the U.S. is only a danger to other workers.
Hard to have shared organization when it was working class whites who burned Greenwood down and abandon any idea of intersectionality when black people even if their working class, get brought into the mix.
your voice has changed noticeably between this and more recent WTYP. cant put my finger on how, and i dont wanna place a value judgement, but I just find it interesting
It blows my mind that the targets of lynching are typically taken from police custody. That implies so much impunity. Imagine raiding a police station for anything, let alone a kidnapping leading to murder, and getting away with it.
man being in HS without a bank account sucks, especially since it's a great time to build up savings since your expenses are so low just pirate the shit out of the episodes IMO -- or sneak out one night and go to your local credit union and open an account
Dude, do you think something similar could happen in 2020? Would love to send you an e-mail with a few questions, I'm doing a research for a story. Love your videos btw!!
There were a number of incidents of mass murders of black people. The following link has a list of massacres in general: "zinnedproject.org/collection/massacres-us/"
Maybe I'm biased, but I've heard a lot of bad things about the pink pistols. A lot of the chapters seem to be super right-wing, and I've seen their members be pretty victim-blamey a lot, when obviously it's far more problematic for LGB and especially trans people to have and use guns.
While a lot of pink pistols members are not right-wingers (they're a very loose organisation, the only thing you need to do to join them is to declare yourself a member), they where founded by a libertarian as a one-issue organisation. Quote from their utility manual " We do NOT involve ourselves in other issues, such as gay marriage, gay rights, the size or structure of government, political parties, nor do we champion causes such as AIDS awareness or the decriminalization of sex work". Their FAQ quotes Heinlein and their press release for the Pulse shooting was basically "oh god please don't blame the poor guns, don't even think about gun control of any kind". The ability of LGBTQ people to defend themselves is an important issue that leftists should support, but I think we can do better than the pink pistols.
So I'm assuming that your problem with money "leaving the neighborhood" is that it's one sided and eventually just funnels up into some rich guy's vault? Otherwise trade and mutual aid to others far outside your community should be value neutral.
no i am a communist, actually, and believe we should abolish currency in favor of directing our efforts into mutually benefiting all humans and maintaining a steady-state economy
it's possible but very hard to do, if you want a proof the Soviet union from day one until the end used salaries and prices (and also there was a rich 1% which just was the government), in the early days of Zionism (and i know, i'm not a fan of Israel as well and its disgusting what they do to Arabs) there were "Kibbuts" which was a village but no one got paid, instead they just shared their labor, this is hard to come across modern day Israel and reserved to the 50's mostly, but it did exist!
less drunk than when i made the previous comment so i can answer this better basically yeah, if we weren't dealing with multinational corporations hoarding wealth in the cayman islands or delaware or whatever, it wouldn't matter as much what kind of businesses you patronized or where the money went
It’s hard to have a mom and pop logistics industry exclusively of owner-operators. Without a centrally planned system for logistics there has to be both wage labor and capital concentration involved in Supraregional trade
Its funny you say that if I give you a dollar it would leave my neighborhood when I too live just west of University City and probably have the same landlord
Wait, so, an actual, legitimate newspaper *explicitly* called for a FUCKING. LYNCH. MOB!? I don't think Breibart would ever sink to *that* level. Heck, I don't think even Stormfront would do that! #AmericaWasNeverGreat #ThereAreNoGreatNations
Between the murder of New Orleans police chief David Hennessy and the murders of eleven Italian-Americans in New Orleans on 14 March 1891 by a mob including many prominent New Orleanians, local newspapers blamed the local Italian population (especially Sicilians), some even calling for violence. After 14 March, newspapers around the country were initially fairly sympathetic toward the mob that killed those eleven, even those that expressed a disapproval towards vigilantism. Not until diplomatic tensions with Italy that some of them backed down from the more vitriolic rhetoric, but we still got “mafia” in the popular lexicon all the same. Newspapers calling for a lynch mob were unfortunately common in that time period.
Malcolm X notwithstanding, capitalism does not require racism. All that is required is an underclass to be exploited and as England has shown for centuries it is easy to create an underclass without resorting to racism. Racism may make it easier to create that underclass, but it's not necessary.
I mean, you _could_ carry water up a hill in your hands, but why would you do that when you have a bucket. Sure, racism isn't strictly necessary, but it is the easiest and consistently used.
I'm not wholly convinced with your political outlook but there is enough in the events to suggest what was true and what was assumed. A story well told, though and advice for any community to consider. Money invested and shared where you live will come back to you. Smaller economies less focused on outside services and goods rely less on chance investments and expenditure coming in.
Black Wall Street being built in a little over 50 years after slaves were legally freed and during segregation, proves it was not so much a matter of resources as it was a matter of resourcefulness. The Black Wall Street mindset was, how can I afford it, what can I do with what I have to get what I want. They did so much more with so much less than we have available today. Today we don’t own businesses, homes and other assets because the mindset is negatively limiting. People say what they can’t afford and what they can’t do. There is no Black Wall Street today because we as a people think it’s all about resources, when in fact tapping into our resourcefulness will lead to resources. Resourcefulness requires thinking and too many fail to use their minds in a way to get them all the things they want. The Black Wall Street mindset is necessary again.
probably not build a highway through the neighborhood or demolish most of it for a university campus, for a start also not burning the place down was probably a good idea
It got more sophisticated, e.g. even in the video arson and murder were temporary measures. The safe community was finally destroyed by the peaceful, ostensibly benevolent means of building a highway and a university over it, by the overwhelming machinery of a capitalist state.
For example in many parts of the Caribbean there are large South Asian communities. These were created when the British and Dutch encouraged people from their Asian colonies to move there, which they used to create a middle management class of shop keepers, clerks, and minor civil servants. These communities are large enough that in many carribean nations the main parties are ethnicity-based and south Asian parties have controlled governments at different times. That obviously recreates arrangements in other colonized countries where one group is picked or created as the ethnically superior ruling class over a larger one. The US didn’t have to make formal arrangements for south and East Asians to form this class. After targeting their immigration policies toward cheap labor for building railways and mines,the US actually changed their policies to only accept people who were coming with significant capital or with a strong family network. Instead of arriving and looking for wage labor, the only immigrants allowed were able to start businesses and send their kids to higher education. When you already have black people artificially kept in poverty, then the class resentment between the clerical class and the precariat workers becomes a racialized conflict between Asian and black people, which can extend even to working class Asian people adopting chauvinistic attitudes toward wealthy or professional black people. Since the power of the Asian clerical class relies on proximity to whiteness, it reinforces white supremacy and anti-blackness without white people even having to be involved. The practice was less explicit but it still resulted in a privileged model minority, and in this case it was less obvious. Now it is more useful as a hammer, eg Asians are minorities and they have succeeded, so it must be collective laziness in part of black people. So racism can be refined. You can have a explicit and bio essential government policy that Indians are fundamentally smarter than black slave descendants and as a result import Indians to be clerks. When you try it again a hundred years later on the west coast, that bioessential argument isn’t effective enough. Then you can selectively allow already-middle class people to immigrate, and then say say that black people are poor because of something like welfare, absent fathers, or cultural laziness. There’s also the aid trap and racist economic structures where, like in the video, a state provides aid or assistance to a community but funnels the actual proceeds of that back to rich white people from settler states instead of actually staying with the recipients.
A European example of a lynching: the De Witt brothers (Johan and Cornelis). These days mostly known as part of the meme ""In 1672, a mob of angry Dutch killed and ate their prime minister. Options. Just sayin'."" Ironically, this was not the rising up of a rightfully angry people against some tyrant, but rather the use of the people through means of populistic rhetoric in order to install a competing tyrant (William III) who was considered to be more pliable by moneyed interests (if only because he had not been an adult for long at the time).
nah I haven't, sorry for getting the regionalisms wrong, y'all genuinely have some of the best architecture in the nation though, really wanna visit one day
@@donoteat01 You might also want to visit the Center for Reconciliation and Reconciliation Park while you're here. Tulsa is coming around on talking about the race massacre differently. We're also in the process of scrubbing Brady's name from a lot of stuff. I certainly wouldn't call Tulsa the most progressive city ever but things are improving slowly but surely. We even got a pretty sweet flag recently. Vexillologists love it!
So weird a historically black neighborhood is now an Interstate exchange. WHAT A COINCIDENT!!!!
Was going to like this, but I'll leave it as "nice."
Yet people still believe we don't live in a white supremacist nation.
Ahem, I believe the politically correct term is "over a thousand lone wolves," /s
@@don7777s /s means sarcasm fyi
@@loalfalfaol8920 I am pretty sure Daniel was being sarcastic too.
People who explain "/s" will be shot
@realdonaldfuckhead: I'm sure there were good people on both sides
You mean law abiding lone wolves
i grew up in tulsa and it's actually really ridiculous how many people can grow up there, go to school there, live their whole life there and not know hardly anything about the race riot other than the name. literally just today i saw someone on facebook from tulsa comment on a post about the aerial bombing thing and claimed they didn't think it was actually true and they'd have to "do some research." it's just not taught in the way that it should be. the only reason i learned as much about it as i did in school was because my middle school was in the former greenwood neighborhood so every year sixth grade social studies does a project on it. i never learned brady was a klansmen though so that's fun.
Yes, but to call this a race riot is insulting. This was not two sided. They were murdered and burned. 😢😠
@@michaelrichter4941 Whoever started or caused it to be called a race riot is just another cover up to add to this piece of history. Race massacre, what could have been if places and people like this were just allowed to prosper and grow.
madelyn woah a person said they didn’t know too much about something to form an opinion on and instead of trusting you they decided to wait till they could research it crazy
Sad what they attempt to sweep under the rug
This is changing though. I live in Tulsa. There is a lot more public recognition of the race riot and better attempts are made to teach it in schools. The mayor's recent budget provides money to search for mass graves. The fact that Brady was a klansman was only brought to public attention about 10 years ago and since then the Brady Arts District and Brady street were renamed. A reconciliation park has been built. Tulsa still has a big problem with segregation and wealth disparities, but at least there is public acknowledgement and we are moving in the right direction.
You should look into the (de)development of LaVilla, one of the most vibrant communities within Jacksonville, and largely populated with foreign immigrants and black soldiers who retired after the civil war. Dominated by its connections to the railroad industry, and directly connected to earliest black street car suburbs, the neighborhood was the birthplace of James Weldon Johnson and was where Ray Charles started performing. Stephen Crane married a LaVilla brothel owner, and the term "Blues" was first recorded being used there. Zora Neale Hurston spent a lot of time there and it was often called the "Harlem of the South." In the 60s, a civil rights defense group called "The Boomerang Gang" would fight for the neighborhood during Ax Handle Saturday.
Then, in the mid to late 60s, it was carved into with a highway, the train station was shut down, the trains were rerouted, the streetcars torn up, the city consolidated the entire county in a controversial and corrupt land grab, and yet the neighborhood continued to limp on. Then, the city began to shut off services, the area became known as a terrible slum, and in the early 90s, the entire neighborhood was leveled, apart from three or four buildings that were listed as historic. The city evicted the entire neighborhood to the Ambassador Hotel until that was shut down in 1998.
This was done with a giant "River City Renaissance" initiative, with the money for "rebuilding" used to construct the Jacksonville Landing (yes, the one from the shooting) a few miles away closer to the downtown. The neighborhood is still mostly grasslots with small plaques next to them, though recently cheap, low-income "lofts" started being constructed in the area.
The only reminder of what the neighborhood truly was is a small former grocery store that is now known as the "Whetstonian." A man named Whetstone bought the property while the city began leveling the neighborhood, and managed to force the city to reconnect the water and power to his building. He then proceeded to cover the entire thing in memorabilia and art and knickknacks from the old neighborhood, including mirrors, tiles, and sculptures. He died recently, and the building is quickly deteriorating, but it's the last testament to the lives that once bustled in a place that is now empty.
Holy crap I've lived in jax my entire life and I had no idea about this. I've always wondered why the Ritz Theater was sitting there all alone right next to the highway. It's kind of disgusting how it used to be a booming culture hub and now most of downtown is owned by a baptist megachurch that pays no property tax and tries to block any development they don't like.
@@LarkEnhal that church literally bought all the liquor licenses for downtown apparently
@@LarkEnhal also it feels really odd seeing another Jacksonvillain/jaxson/other Bs name for someone from Jacksonville in the comments of a channel I like
yeah, super rare. I just found this channel and it's like this perfect intersection of cities/leftism/history I totally love it
It's a really great analysis and I'm glad it's bringing attention to these issues. Also, for more information on Jacksonville and its history, look up JaxPsychoGeo and theJaxsonmag. They've got a lot of really interesting articles about the history and current politics of the city and others with similar populations
as a native Tulsan I appreciated this episode. Luckily I went to high school pretty recently and actually learned about this in history class, but I've found a lot of people have no idea that black wall street existed or the sheer scale of the riot, even if they generally knew about the event.
The area of tulsa north of downtown is still heavily black, but with the basic destruction of greenwood the vast majority of it is extremely poor and underserved by services like bus transit or even grocery stores, just as an example of how it's ended up today. (The current mayor actually campaigned on rectifying racial disparities between north tulsa and the rest of the city, so that's... something.)
weird how victims of lynchings seem to be snatched while in police custody 🤔
Like Sandra Bland
Not... really? Police involvement in lynchings is very well documented.
Often, but not always: when a bunch of armed, murderous racists turns up, a sheriff and a handful of deputies - or a shift of cops - hasn't got a real chance of surviving if the mob decides to assault the building, so they're left to judge whether the arseholes are determined or not, and whether they want to die for some guy in a cell.
@@williamchamberlain2263 if we can't trust cops to risk their lives to "protect and serve" the defenseless when a racist mob rolls in (which we can't) then it sounds to me like like the entire institution is literally less than worthless (which it is)
I legit don't know if you intended to defend the cops or not but Jesus Christ
D-Squared What’s alternative would you propose?
I guess that bootstraps argument pretty irrelevant now.
How can one pull themselves up by bootstraps they can't even afford?
FUN FACT: It is physically impossible to pull yourself off the ground by your bootstraps. It can't be done.
@@PanAndScanBuddy you just need to pull harder, stupid! /s
or simply absurd
Interstellar bruce not for those of us who did it
Thank you for hi-lighting this tragic event. Greenwood was obviously created as a safe space where African Americans could flourish in a peaceful environment, a safe space isolated from the worst effects of segregation. This is a perfect example of "Making lemonade from lemons" - resisting segregation from within. One aspect you don't mention is how Greenwood and its wealthy black residents were viewed by Tulsa's white population. Was there envy? Resentment? If there was that underlying tension of "who do those uppity n*****s think they are"? then were the circumstances that led to the lynch mob a convenient excuse for the escalating violence in order to teach "them N's a lesson"? Such a shameful event in US history. A story that should be more widely known. Its the kind of subject matter you'd expect Spike Lee to tackle in a movie. Didn't Harlem in NYC provide a similar environment for African American's? A safer space that allowed Black owned businesses and culture to develop?
Excellent point, the white population demanded "separate but equal" but became envious when they saw the black population thriving. It is not a coincidence that they attacked and wiped out the businesses
@@jessicam9625 Who poked you in the eye with a a stick?You are talking errant nonsense. The views and opinions of white residents ARE important as they are central to the events that took place. No demographic is more important than the other -A 360 degree perspective is required to fully understand the event- to place in context, they ALL matter when searching for truth.
No, Moutton Noir - Jessica M is right. The whole thing is just about what happened based on documented research and accounts, clearly. I highly doubt there could’ve been enough documentation or even anecdotes from the angry white mob analyzing what their feelings were... that they were actually envious of the well off black folks, insecure and afraid of losing power (hint: it’s always that!). I don’t think any of them would have been so self aware, much less have said it out loud.
But to OP’s [your**] original point, this discussion (though maybe not as psychoanalytical as you wanted) WAS entire last few minutes of the video. Why racists do racist shit just ain’t that hard nor is it very interesting anymore.
[Edit: didn’t realize you were the OP, Black Sheep]
This video makes me incredibly angry because I know there are STILL people in America today who are just as prejudiced and racist as the people you talk about in this video. The fact that it's been quashed in education is revolting. The community needs to own up to what they did, even if it was committed by the grandparents of the current population.
Wow, never thought I'd see you here! Love your mod, and it's a nice surprise to find you're also a fan of leftist urban planning as well!
@@venticuiliar9136 I have many interests lol
/especially/ if it was committed by the grandparents of the current population, your pop pop being racist at thanksgiving isn’t as harmless as he’d like you to believe
I can't help but ask about your handle because it's such an obscure reference...are you by chance from NE Ohio?
here in Russia it rhymes so much, there is a HUGE amount of ex soviet muslims (from Uzbekistan, Kazahstan and etc), they are basically treated like the blacks in these years maybe without a KKK but this is a ticking time bomb, the sad thing is it's not different in the rest of the world and a lot of nations aren't really tolerant to muslims nowdays (because 1.5 billion people happen to did 9/11....)
even on the St. petersburg metro terror the news first mentioned that the attacker was an Uzbek.
i hope it will become better
On another hand some of fastest developing regions in Russia is Chechenia that is predominately Muslim. Could Chechenia be some sort of Greenwood equivalent?
Is there a difference in treatment of Muslims native to Russian republic and those that originate from other USSR states?
They are treated like Mexican refugees basically. They’re not thrown in cages (yet), but almost always used as a source of a cheap labour, underpaid and live in terrible conditions. Society treats them awfully, talking same shit about ‘taking jobs’ as racists do anywhere else. Nobody thinks about protecting their rights, even self-claimed leader of unorganized opposition made restricting immigration from muslim countries (former ussr republics) a part of his political agenda.
People from russian Muslim republics are treated horribly nonetheless. Yes, they are treated more like black people in US - there’s no segregation and people can live anywhere they want, but the prejudice is still strong. They get arrested more often, police always checks their IDs and stuff, and people tend to hate them, calling them terrorists and rapists.
About how Chechnya’s developing, well, rich and people close to government have all the money. Common folks still live pretty much in poverty and have absolutely no protection whatsoever, they’re often killed for being critical of the government or being gay. Sadly, not much news coming from there because elites close to government basically hold their control and don’t let any piece of unwanted information slip.
Killing gays, killing for being critical of government and tautologies like "rich and people close to government have all the money" is rather clear cut propaganda. Treating Chechens as Mexican immigrants is rather idiotic claim as Chechens are Russian citizens thus not subject to deportation. Form what i have seen most of anti Chechen and anti immigrant sentiments comes from right wing opposition elements sponsored by US like Nemcov and Nazbols
The new episode of Watchmen opened with a recreation of the Tulsa Riots and it took me a second to figure out where I'd heard about it, but then I remembered this video.
I can't believe I had never heard of this before this week after watching Watchmen on HBO. I usually have a good grasp on history but has NEVER heard of this or read of this in any history book. How is something this big not a huge section of the history of not just Okla but the Country as a whole.
This is crazy AF
I think we know why it's not in the history books... But I sure can't wait to see the Prager U version!!!
This video is one of the most thorough overviews of the riots I've seen.
Thanks for drawing attention to this important historic event.
The Philando Castile case was so bad, I had an uncle leave the NRA for it. This guy is a kinda nutty gun dude, but even he went "fuck that racist bullshit. Guy had every right to have that gun."
I grew up in Tulsa and barely knew anything about this by the time I graduated high school. The "Tulsa Race Riot" got name checked occasionally but very little beyond the name was ever mentioned. At the time I graduated high school death estimates were something like "between 6 and 2,000". Theres been a lot of work done in the last 20 years though to clarify a lot of what happened.
An episode about the NYC draft riots would be a good companion to this one
So what you're basically saying is: We must destroy Wa-Wa sub shops.
they're called HOAGIES thank you very much
@@donoteat01 only in New Jersey and PA.
Chopped cheese > Cheese steak.
@@RS-jh2kl chopped cheese is a cheap imitation from a state so pathetic they have to share custody of the island it's most famous monument rests on with new Jersey.
Amazing content. I think you did a great job of keeping such a heavy subject relatively light without trivializing it.
Thank you so much for covering this. And giving it the appropriate context, not calling it a riot or being vague. And explaining the context of how Greenwood was truly assaulted. And thank you for recognizing that class reductionism isn't always the correct lense.
Interesting note: 80's R&B/Funk powerhouse "The GAP Band" took their name from Greenwood, Archer and Pine, i.e. the Black Wallstreet section of Tulsa...which I've known since I was 10 or 11 years old (mid-80's), I did not know about the massacre until I was north of 30 (mid 2000's) because this sh*t is not included in text books...see also: Wilmington, NC "race riot", "Red Summer" of 1919...😕
Thank you for this presentation. I appreciate you getting art licenses to take the time to reconstruct the history of a uprising community of Greenwood. I can deeply tell u gather ur facts accurately. Thank u again. They really should teach this economic development schemes in our American school. Conflicting this social. I will join ur patron..
This is my first time watching ur channel let me tell u the weeping i did listen to the Truth. It hurt so bad i wanted to stop, however My my ancestors wouldn't let me. So I continue to watch and as hard as it was to continue watch I got through it just like how we did? Again thank you for putting this lovely documentary together
I know this is from forever ago but as someone who grew up there, it's called Sand Springs, not Sandy Springs. A lot of people even from the area get it wrong though so don't worry too much about it lol. When I was in school we only had a few sentences in a history book about the Tulsa race massacre unfortunately so I didn't know very much about it for a long time. This has been super informative for me and seeing how the literal landscape has changed since is wild to me.
This was reallu good. Has left me with a lot to think about. Here in Ireland things are quiet now, but with the break down of neoliberal capitalism in progress, I worry that old wounds mighy re-open.
And as a Socialist and a trans person. I am very conscious of how my own safety and the safety of my friebds may be at great risk.
Socialism couldn't care less about the safety of others
@@silverg2862 Whoa, you *chug* the Kool-Ade.
@@silverg2862 "people caring about the safety and wellbeing of each other do not actually care about each other, because sociamsl bad vuvuzela iphone"
As an Okie I can attest to the vast number of even Oklahomans who have had this event hidden from them. With access to the internet and with the brief shift in public focus during the summers of 2020 and 2021 thanks to the efforts of local BLM chapters, folks outside of Tulsa may have started to reverse that erasure. However, our current state leadership is just as fascist as ever. I'm honestly disappointed I didn't see this video sooner. I watched your Cities: Skylines series on power and urban planning policy back in 2019, and it didn't play an unsizeable role in my eventual shift towards leftist politics and local organizing efforts. I'm happy I stumbled back on your channel and saw this gem. Based, as the kids would say.
Thanks again for what you contribute to the world. Love and solidarity from central OK.
Just found this and this is already my favorite channel on any media outlet I have ever discovered, thank you for this!
Segregation was dumb and bad. BUT suddenly the support for black separatism back in the 60s makes sense. After all, segregation wasn't equal but it wasn't even really separate, it depended on free movement of capital from black neighborhoods to white neighborhoods.
@Geli....A most compelling point of view. It wouldn't be a question of either segregation or separatism if black America were to emulate the economic formula that led to remarkable progress for all the Asian communities, Vietnamese, Laotian, Korean, Chinese and Japanese. Dr. King might well have included more black enterprise voices in his crusade. Many a lesson could've been learned. For example, the Negro baseball league, ironically under segregation, spawned many an economic enterprise that kept the black dollar floating around within the community before leaving it. As it stands, we see a flood of black dollars away from the community. Good point, Geli. No, my point does not support either segregation or separatism, merely asks that we emulated the economic success models seen in the various Asian communities.
marcus garvey was a huge proponent of this, there were ups and downs
@J K ...I respect your point of view. Only I ask you to do this: when you visit Los Angeles, please tour the Baldwin Hills section, said to be the black Beverly Hills of the West Coast. If you're ever in Texas, please visit a well kept, affluent suburb of Dallas called De Soto. Or perhaps on the East Coast, visit the Oak Bluff section of Martha's Vineyard. I suspect you might find your point of view contradicted. In all these aforementioned sites, we have not so much a question of segregation, since there are no laws forcing separation. On the contrary, you'd find gatherings among peoples of similar core values and economic station. I wouldn't, for that reason, call the affluent Asian communities in Orange county segregated. There is, after all, a difference.
@@ccaammiinniiito2 The fact that you mentioned the Asian communities shows exactly how clueless you are. Black Americans did exactly that -- and they were rewarded with having their communities systematically dismantled.
@@TheXL2013 Indeed they were destroyed or devalued or had highways run through their neighborhoods thereby removing economic value from them. Even when black businesses were thriving, there were still problems with lack of investment and segregation and redlining. Then there's this shit in the video which happened to almost any prosperous black district except in Durham.
This video has become... relevant for reasons we all know in the year 2020.
What happened to Greenwood was unique in terms of scale, but by no means unique as far as racism and lynchings during 1921 is concerned.
Lynching,noun, a form of violence in which a mob, under the pretext of administering justice without trial, executes a presumed offender, often after inflicting torture and corporal mutilation. The term lynch law refers to a self-constituted court that imposes sentence on a person without due process of law.
can't believe I hadn't listened to this earlier, glad to be getting back into this channel again now that Well There's Your Problem is so big
How can we help make this video more visible, it's really important.
The part starting at 24:28 was very interesting. Does anyone have any literature (book recommendations, articles, etc.) that backs up the claim that capitalism, in an effort to protect itself, often devolves into fascism and racism, and spares no sympathy for wealthy people that belong to the targeted classes? I've never heard this particular criticism of capitalism before and I'm interested.
Congratulations to all Oklahomans for examining a sorrowful episode in Tulsa that took place some 100 years ago. Dr. Booker T. Washington must be smiling. Here's hoping the citizens of Sherman, TX., agree to do with same, that is, examine the Sherman Riots of 1930, where a parallel episode of race strife took place.
Great economic lesson here. Governments and the banks that own them cannot allow subsidiarity.
How can you sound more like a retired union engineer 5 years ago than today
The problem isn't that the armed men might have triggered the conflict, the problem is armed men failed to be enough prevent Greenwood from being burned down. Not to mention, when Greenwood was rebuilt, it was stunted by problems too complex to simply shoot at. I don't say this as if it's an easy solution, but it appears ultimately the only effective security, is security gained through shared organization between oppressed people regardless of race, class or gender. It's easy to steamroll an "other", no matter how many guns they have.
Exactly. Left wing objection to gin control doesn't make any sense to me. It might feel better to imagine going down in a blaze of glory but you're going down anyway. Armed militias aren't a danger to the system at all. Proliferation of guns to the degree we have in the U.S. is only a danger to other workers.
Hard to have shared organization when it was working class whites who burned Greenwood down and abandon any idea of intersectionality when black people even if their working class, get brought into the mix.
the first episode of "there seems to be an error"
This does seem to be a spiritual predecessor to the pod.
This is a very deep and impactful video. Well done. Glad you told this story.
very cool. I live very close to Greenwood, and its surprising how many people dont know about the tragedy that took our streets.
Permanent fan here! Here is my money. Do you take American Express?
Patreon does!
TwoQuestions well actually....
*shakes head* Nobody takes AmEx...
It makes me physically sick to hear about this times, but I'm priviledged, because I only have to hear about this, and not try to survive this times.
You fucking racist
This video is extremely informative.
I enjoyed listening to this. Thanks.
I though I was the only one, until I found this channel
"Oh wait..." Classic! Great video.
Proud member of Pink pistols √ ♡
your voice has changed noticeably between this and more recent WTYP. cant put my finger on how, and i dont wanna place a value judgement, but I just find it interesting
Commenting for our lord and saviour, the algorithm.
It blows my mind that the targets of lynching are typically taken from police custody. That implies so much impunity. Imagine raiding a police station for anything, let alone a kidnapping leading to murder, and getting away with it.
Btw, dude, how old are you?
Hell yeah, SRA shoutout!
This is my 2nd favorite episode of "Joe Pera Talks with You."
Next month I'm becoming a patreon I really would love to talk with about some ideas on a fictional town I'm creating for a story
Hey patrons can one of you give me the link of the next *bonus* episode
I don't have a job... (and I'm still in high school)
:/
Get a job ya fuckin loser get ready for the real world cause it's gonna hit you like a brick
@@AmokCanuck grow up, you are acting more like a child than he.
You can get a small job at weekends or summerjob. Or use your money you use for sweets or pc games or whatever. If you have any
unfortunately summer is over...
also I have some money in cash but no bank account or access to a credit card
man being in HS without a bank account sucks, especially since it's a great time to build up savings since your expenses are so low
just pirate the shit out of the episodes IMO -- or sneak out one night and go to your local credit union and open an account
Dude, do you think something similar could happen in 2020? Would love to send you an e-mail with a few questions, I'm doing a research for a story. Love your videos btw!!
At that University of Oklahoma campus, do they do a stolen land acknowledgement for Greenwood?
This sounds almost exactly like the 1919 race riots here in Omaha.
That's fucked up
There were a number of incidents of mass murders of black people.
The following link has a list of massacres in general:
"zinnedproject.org/collection/massacres-us/"
Goddamn you sound excited to make this
You should cover the east st. Louis massacre too
I want to be your Patron but i cannot becouse in Poland we don't have dollars or euros. 1 dollar or euro is a bit expensive (in PLN).
Patreon is on the internet. It doesn't matter if you live in Poland, UK, France or USA. You just need to pay about 4 PLN
just pirate the episodes IMO
Poland can into patreon
@Rackie -- did you miss the parts where he repeatedly called himself a socialist?
Same, i'm from colombia and a dollar can be a meal for me...
damn homie good content.
2:55 I can see SV Seeker from here
Good history bit. I didn't know about this
Good day to rewatch this
Please: the people who contribute on your Patreon page are patrons, not "patreons".
Either way, I'll probably be one soon.
Evil will never be rewarded, it will get its just do. Karma is a B. H!
Maybe I'm biased, but I've heard a lot of bad things about the pink pistols.
A lot of the chapters seem to be super right-wing, and I've seen their members be pretty victim-blamey a lot, when obviously it's far more problematic for LGB and especially trans people to have and use guns.
While a lot of pink pistols members are not right-wingers (they're a very loose organisation, the only thing you need to do to join them is to declare yourself a member), they where founded by a libertarian as a one-issue organisation. Quote from their utility manual " We do NOT involve ourselves in other issues, such as gay marriage, gay rights, the size or structure of government, political parties, nor do we champion causes such as AIDS awareness or the decriminalization of sex work". Their FAQ quotes Heinlein and their press release for the Pulse shooting was basically "oh god please don't blame the poor guns, don't even think about gun control of any kind".
The ability of LGBTQ people to defend themselves is an important issue that leftists should support, but I think we can do better than the pink pistols.
i didn't do a huge amount of research tbh, hadn't heard of them before i did this vidya
"apolitical" organizations are consistently hot garbage.
goalcam John Brown Gun Clubs and the Socialist Rifle Association are both great.
landlords spend money on cocaine
"Wa Wa hoagie". Say that ten times fast.
So I'm assuming that your problem with money "leaving the neighborhood" is that it's one sided and eventually just funnels up into some rich guy's vault? Otherwise trade and mutual aid to others far outside your community should be value neutral.
no i am a communist, actually, and believe we should abolish currency in favor of directing our efforts into mutually benefiting all humans and maintaining a steady-state economy
I knew you were some stripe of libertarian socialist (I am too). I was just wondering about your opinion on protectionism.
it's possible but very hard to do, if you want a proof the Soviet union from day one until the end used salaries and prices (and also there was a rich 1% which just was the government), in the early days of Zionism (and i know, i'm not a fan of Israel as well and its disgusting what they do to Arabs) there were "Kibbuts" which was a village but no one got paid, instead they just shared their labor, this is hard to come across modern day Israel and reserved to the 50's mostly, but it did exist!
less drunk than when i made the previous comment so i can answer this better
basically yeah, if we weren't dealing with multinational corporations hoarding wealth in the cayman islands or delaware or whatever, it wouldn't matter as much what kind of businesses you patronized or where the money went
It’s hard to have a mom and pop logistics industry exclusively of owner-operators.
Without a centrally planned system for logistics there has to be both wage labor and capital concentration involved in Supraregional trade
Great video
Hey now, some of us would much rather have a Sopwith Camel than a Gulfstream ;)
Its funny you say that if I give you a dollar it would leave my neighborhood when I too live just west of University City and probably have the same landlord
the exception that proves the rule!
@@donoteat01 Rent Control.
Is this supposed to be unlisted/patron only? Because it’s public.
first one's free 😉
I see how it is, to get us hooked.
Wait, so, an actual, legitimate newspaper *explicitly* called for a FUCKING. LYNCH. MOB!?
I don't think Breibart would ever sink to *that* level. Heck, I don't think even Stormfront would do that!
#AmericaWasNeverGreat
#ThereAreNoGreatNations
Between the murder of New Orleans police chief David Hennessy and the murders of eleven Italian-Americans in New Orleans on 14 March 1891 by a mob including many prominent New Orleanians, local newspapers blamed the local Italian population (especially Sicilians), some even calling for violence. After 14 March, newspapers around the country were initially fairly sympathetic toward the mob that killed those eleven, even those that expressed a disapproval towards vigilantism. Not until diplomatic tensions with Italy that some of them backed down from the more vitriolic rhetoric, but we still got “mafia” in the popular lexicon all the same.
Newspapers calling for a lynch mob were unfortunately common in that time period.
I might have to give you a dollar, guess I cant pay rent :(
Why couldn't they just mind their business and let us be great !!!
Because capitalism and white supremacy 😔
Great video. New Sub.
It's "Sand Springs" bro.
i want a hoagie
Al gor rythm
SRA gang here.
Malcolm X notwithstanding, capitalism does not require racism. All that is required is an underclass to be exploited and as England has shown for centuries it is easy to create an underclass without resorting to racism. Racism may make it easier to create that underclass, but it's not necessary.
England colonized most of the fucking world, genocided both Ireland and India and Africa, I'd say racism played a huge role.
I mean, you _could_ carry water up a hill in your hands, but why would you do that when you have a bucket. Sure, racism isn't strictly necessary, but it is the easiest and consistently used.
If you don't have that party horn in the next WTYP episode, I'm unfollowing. All of you. On Twitter. On here. Everywhere. You've been warned.
Sandy springs lmao
What the fuck. This is so fucked up
these people are evil!!
They do have lynchings in Europe.
I'm not wholly convinced with your political outlook but there is enough in the events to suggest what was true and what was assumed. A story well told, though and advice for any community to consider. Money invested and shared where you live will come back to you. Smaller economies less focused on outside services and goods rely less on chance investments and expenditure coming in.
Black Wall Street being built in a little over 50 years after slaves were legally freed and during segregation, proves it was not so much a matter of resources as it was a matter of resourcefulness. The Black Wall Street mindset was, how can I afford it, what can I do with what I have to get what I want. They did so much more with so much less than we have available today. Today we don’t own businesses, homes and other assets because the mindset is negatively limiting. People say what they can’t afford and what they can’t do. There is no Black Wall Street today because we as a people think it’s all about resources, when in fact tapping into our resourcefulness will lead to resources. Resourcefulness requires thinking and too many fail to use their minds in a way to get them all the things they want. The Black Wall Street mindset is necessary again.
What do you think should've been done instead?
I'm asking out genuine curiosity, not in hate or accusation or any other bad thing.
probably not build a highway through the neighborhood or demolish most of it for a university campus, for a start
also not burning the place down was probably a good idea
Nice
Who's here after the Watchmen series?
The desperation for likes never ceases to amaze me....
15:13 haha nice :D
"leftypol" laugh every time someone uses this word.
I like watching your videos at 1.5x speed.
Holly Shit
Good video but do you think your comments on capitalism really apply 100 years later?
yes
It got more sophisticated, e.g. even in the video arson and murder were temporary measures. The safe community was finally destroyed by the peaceful, ostensibly benevolent means of building a highway and a university over it, by the overwhelming machinery of a capitalist state.
It’s capitalism, why would you not outsource and commoditize your racist oppression, or use the diffuse processes of a captive state?
How would one commoditize and outsource oppression?
For example in many parts of the Caribbean there are large South Asian communities. These were created when the British and Dutch encouraged people from their Asian colonies to move there, which they used to create a middle management class of shop keepers, clerks, and minor civil servants. These communities are large enough that in many carribean nations the main parties are ethnicity-based and south Asian parties have controlled governments at different times.
That obviously recreates arrangements in other colonized countries where one group is picked or created as the ethnically superior ruling class over a larger one.
The US didn’t have to make formal arrangements for south and East Asians to form this class. After targeting their immigration policies toward cheap labor for building railways and mines,the US actually changed their policies to only accept people who were coming with significant capital or with a strong family network. Instead of arriving and looking for wage labor, the only immigrants allowed were able to start businesses and send their kids to higher education. When you already have black people artificially kept in poverty, then the class resentment between the clerical class and the precariat workers becomes a racialized conflict between Asian and black people, which can extend even to working class Asian people adopting chauvinistic attitudes toward wealthy or professional black people. Since the power of the Asian clerical class relies on proximity to whiteness, it reinforces white supremacy and anti-blackness without white people even having to be involved.
The practice was less explicit but it still resulted in a privileged model minority, and in this case it was less obvious. Now it is more useful as a hammer, eg Asians are minorities and they have succeeded, so it must be collective laziness in part of black people.
So racism can be refined. You can have a explicit and bio essential government policy that Indians are fundamentally smarter than black slave descendants and as a result import Indians to be clerks. When you try it again a hundred years later on the west coast, that bioessential argument isn’t effective enough. Then you can selectively allow already-middle class people to immigrate, and then say say that black people are poor because of something like welfare, absent fathers, or cultural laziness.
There’s also the aid trap and racist economic structures where, like in the video, a state provides aid or assistance to a community but funnels the actual proceeds of that back to rich white people from settler states instead of actually staying with the recipients.
A bit condescending to Europeans there buddy, we generally know what lynchings are/were.
hey i mean a lot of americans basically don't know what lynchings are
Fair enough, but you singled us out specifically.
A European example of a lynching: the De Witt brothers (Johan and Cornelis). These days mostly known as part of the meme ""In 1672, a mob of angry Dutch killed and ate their prime minister. Options. Just sayin'.""
Ironically, this was not the rising up of a rightfully angry people against some tyrant, but rather the use of the people through means of populistic rhetoric in order to install a competing tyrant (William III) who was considered to be more pliable by moneyed interests (if only because he had not been an adult for long at the time).
Wow this guy has never been to Tulsa! Maybe not even Oklahoma. 1:it’s Sand Springs not Sandy Springs 2: OneOK like “One Oak”
nah I haven't, sorry for getting the regionalisms wrong, y'all genuinely have some of the best architecture in the nation though, really wanna visit one day
@@donoteat01 You might also want to visit the Center for Reconciliation and Reconciliation Park while you're here. Tulsa is coming around on talking about the race massacre differently. We're also in the process of scrubbing Brady's name from a lot of stuff. I certainly wouldn't call Tulsa the most progressive city ever but things are improving slowly but surely. We even got a pretty sweet flag recently. Vexillologists love it!