Hopefully now that jade is out DE learns from how positive jade is received and give hildryn an inaros style rework where it’s a rework without actually changing the abilities too much cause I love hildryn too 😁
@@securatyyy honestly my thoughts would be make balefire 10x stronger as it’s the only weapon you can use while in her 4 give hildryn 2 of them as that’s what’s on screen when flying even though you fire only 1 replace haven with something let us cast pillage in the air and honestly let us travel faster considering we’re using small jet packs to fly
Also something you and other Yters seemed to miss which is fine because it’s not in her tool tips just the patch notes. Her 3 once it’s stripped armor starts rapidly stacking heat. So if you prime with heat inherit. You can get upwards of 20 heat stacks within seconds.
@scatological2538 and then more for the next guy and then the next guy then the next guy. It's fine to not understand. But you can physically see it in the game.
Man, I really feel like I'm not sure how to build anything anymore. Suddenly full armor strip isn't 100% mandatory on everything, the other statuses have all kinds of benefits, slash+viral got effectively nerfed by the increased health pools... It's fun having less of an obvious meta, but it's also a little dizzying having so many options.
No...slash+viral got BUFFED by the bigger health pools, since viral cuts enemy HP in half. Unfortunately Viral is even more of a requirement than it used to be in the very high levels(1k+), because enemy HP balloons even faster.
@@Prophes0r Viral isn't the thing that got weaker. Slash is. Enemy health of 1000, reduce by 50% is 500, slash proc of 100 means 5 ticks to kill. Enemy health of 2000, reduce by 50% is 1000, slash proc of 100 means 10 ticks to kill. Meanwhile, dramatically lower armor reduction means, in the absence of full armor stripping, every other kind of damage got dramatically more powerful than it was before. So the outcome was: Against fully stripped armor, every kind of damage except viral got weaker. Against even a couple points of armor, slash got much weaker that it was and everything else got much stronger than it was.
@@M0du5Pwn3n5 Sure...but we never ADD slash to weapons. Further, The slash status effect "Bleed" ignores armor. So while the attack itself does less damage, the status will always be doing the same. Which is why slash was used. You could be hitting for 5 damage and getting 2k bleed ticks. You can't compare IPS the same way as an added elemental. It's just there.
@@Prophes0r Uh...Hunter Munitions was probably the single most meta mod in the game... And yes, I realize it ignores armor. That was my entire point. Ignoring armor became less powerful, while health pools increased. Think in terms of EHP %. Health pools increased and it made slash do less EHP % per tick than before, meanwhile every damage that was affected by armor now does dramatically more EHP % damage than before against even lightly armored targets.
Aviator i get, the Boreal when you have no Adaptation i do not ... why stack more additive reduction with more "when in flight" mods instead of taking another multiplicative layer in either Adaptation or even Armor ... adding Boreals into the mix reduces the damage taken by 18% at two stacks (taking away one frame slot and one weapon slot) when taking into account the Aviator and aerodynamic where Adaptation or any armor mod would have much higher effect on total EHP than Boreals even with the boost to shields
@@Asghaad you also get Titania's passive damage reduction while airborne, and so on. It comes out way higher than I think you realize, it's about 95% DR consistently, and a single Augur mod anywhere gives the shield meta just enough to get out of sticky situations. I also tend to run the Operator arcane that gives a bunch of health when you transfer in, so my 'Oh Shi-!' response time is quick enough to Transference out of my frame while moving, which launches my Drifter mad far in one direction, then hopping back in Titania gives me HP back. Instead of an essay, maybe go give it a try and if you dont like it, okie dokie.
@@TraehderettahS sigh ... i have been using Titania for years now and Adaptation + Aviator was all i ever needed for Steel Path, SP Circuit, Archon hunts or Vault ... which is why i know slapping all those DR mods with diminishing returns due to additive stacking is BAD and the build would work way better with Adaptation OR Umbral Fiber in that slot giving the frame way higher EHP than 60% shield mod and 18% DR
DE really fused Trinity, Equinox, Wisp and Titania, good lord. I'm definitely here for it. Im actually gonna log in and get her, this seems like my new support frame.
I'm not seeing the trinity or equinox but I can see the other 2 but I do have to say I'm not a fan of how jade flys I much prefer titanias style. Also jade keeps rubbing her stomach like she's pregnant which brings up all kinda od messed up questions about how this death machine was made 😱
@@permeus2nd The armor strip, and visual identity for Trinity, and the power strength and slow is very in line with Equinox, as is the ability to dip back and forth between helping to keep allies alive or mow down enemies depending on which you wanna prioritize
some notes on her 4th alt fire it doesnt take base dmg or multishot yeah even her own buff doesnt work on it apperently but i have seen people say it does work with her 4 alt fire also jade wedding dress stalker black suit i called it
Or add it as an overlay between the video recording and the stream? Honestly there is NO REASON to ever have any of that Twitch crap on a TH-cam video. Just record it earlier in the chain of overlays. Done.
Remember when Stynax played exactly like this then they nerfed him? Couple of years ago this was an unacceptable play style. Does get boring real quick though.
Garuda was doing the exact same thing Styanax was doing at the same time and didn't get touched because Styanax was influenced by usage rates... on a frame given to *everyone* for free.
If you wanna get technical about it, it's because they made Jade new flying animations while Titania uses the usual Archwing animations (which are quite old now). Otherwise, controlling them feels the same. The zoom out helps the player control Jade because they can see the walls they are near whereas Titania shrinks you AND makes it harder to control because you're still moving at the same or faster speed than when you're normal sized.
@thatonepenguinperson618 and let's be real - Titania is SUPPOSED to feel ultra fiddly calling for higher skill ceiling, because she's ond of the three fastest overall movement potential frames in the game. Her augs lean into it so hard.
I hope you do a refresh build on the new Frost changes and cold changes....i know u have like 5000 vids on frost BUT i feel the update vid now is needed to understand the changes better since they seem.more significant
The only thing i would say about not using hornet strike on her is the defense boost is probably the most important overall and you have to deselect that weapon damage buff one to swap to the shield one, thus doing much less damage. You can always switch back once your shields are recharged but thats a lot of extra micromanaging
I will definitely try this build with combat discipline and avenger where brief respite and molt augmented is. I would be ecstatic if that works. I am also using the secondary outburst with ceramic dagger from the Mesa build almost a year ago. I haven't been so excited to try out different builds for a warframe for so long.
Just know that they patched our secondary kills being able to proc gun and blade combo building. You will have to kill with your primary to build the combo meter now.
Why would you not rempver her 1st ability? Its an INCREDIBLY weak heal, Weak heat damage, all it does is spread judgments bit her 4th ability already does that inherent and taking off her 3 is insane to me but i get different people build differently
Great video. The thing I love about her is that she is a fantastic damage frame but also a really strong well rounded support. So if you want to support, but still have great killing potential she is perfect.
I love this cuz they keep with the theme I'm going to keep her secondary to be that tome so it's like she's carrying around her holy book and I'm going to use Tome mods that will pretty much buff everything she does when she uses the alt fire. 😅 I'm so excited for this I wish I had the headpiece that you have though but I missed out on it because that's the coolest halo effect she could probably get but I'm sure that eventually they'll release one I like more. She has been my favorite design Warframe behind Dante Dante was me finally getting a mage frame black I want it I just wish Dante was female. But I'll settle for a frame who can support and deal damage like wisp the only reason I don't play with because she's way too popular for my liking but she is the only frame that had a witch skin and it was so hard to not just play her and buy it. I do hate though that the ranged weapon the stalker is using in the quest does not actually exist I thought it was going to be her signature weapon because of how it looked but I guess it's just the skin for scythe weapons which is unfortunate because if it could shoot range I would use it on her just so I could use melee while flying from a distance but I think I'm just going to give her any of the range to melee weapons that has an incarnate form
could you you do a jade build for us returning vets of warframe cause last time i was playing was when sevagoth came out, I infished all the new stories but not high enough to do archon shards, and i dont think i have those same mods as you have, , maybe like a budget build I could use in nightfall missions, umm regular story ect, cause im not even good enough for steel path yet.
think flow is the only one i feel needs change on heal on elec proc from ability and if a ability deals toxin is all usable just the kill with cold never happens imo
@darkumineru1681 The heal doesn't work unless you lose health.... the electric one is OK as dirga supplements the toxin one directly competes with the heat one as it isn't effective on anything but exalted weapons and molt... the heat one is actually good. I'm not a huge fan of it being on vitality, but it's fine. cold one has 2 frames that could use it(frost and yareli), but its low values make it negligible.
Ok seriously, why the fuck are you running Brief Respite on the DR Heal frame? Literally all of your other suggestions are better. Corrosive Projection because partial strip is actually viable now, Combat Discipline because you have really good self-heal and with your DR arent really in any danger of dying any time soon, Energy Siphon or Dreamers Bond for some mild team support, Growing Power because its pretty much impossible NOT to inflict a status with your 4 alt-fire. Ready Steel with the Pistol Arcane that consumes Combo to give a weapon buff. I am fairly sure fucking Rejuvenation would be better than Brief Respite.
14:22 i might be wrong, but his camera is NOT seeing ANY enemies, not even their heads yet damage numbers??? if that is true, then prepare for a LOS change/fix on her
I swapped one of the heat mods on glory to the radiation mod it kept damage the same but with murmur and tau it is more effective than just heat it really didnt do well with murmur but the one change made a world of difference still get all the heat procs but the rads really helped .... aaaand it added another 40% to rof which turns her into a laser beam then have wisp in the party ..... might make server start lagging but its hilarious jade go brrr like mesa
I ended up using a build p similar to this (with the aero/avi/boreal synergy) on Titania as well. paired with a polearm that has the other boreal mod and a high strength thorns she becomes nigh unkillable in razorwing ime. makes sense that jade would use a similar setup
@@welds8424 that explains why when he spawned on me, he didn’t attack. I was farming relics and was getting ready to attack and he just dipped and left a Dread bp
That's part of DE's whole "I have no idea how to write story or do continuity" crap. Just like how my Excal Umbra is made from moldy scraps of Pizza and a rusty oven, but still has memories and agency because DE can't figure out a better way to move that story along. Or how DE constantly revers to our frames with a gender, despite us 3d printing them with snot and circuits. (The original progenitor frames made from people could arguably have a gender, but ours sure as hell don't.)
My huge hype for her abilities and pre-spoiler design was heavily marred by my irrational discomfort with anything about pregnancy. Her kit seems really solid... I wonder how many months/years until she gets a deluxe skin.
I understand this is your particular feelings. And you’re totally fine for having them. But I don’t think DE is wrong for doing it. It makes another group of people feel included in their games. Nothing wrong with being a mother. Some people feel uncomfortable with disabled people or people of different types, doesn’t mean they shouldn’t be included.
Hornet strike replacing anemic agility is a net increase in damage. Considering base damage increases and fire rate increases, your build gets 10.545x damage, whereas replacing anemic with hornet you get 14.56x damage. This is not even considering wyrm buffing fire rate, further diluting that stat.
You are forgetting the diminishing return effect from hornet strike. We have figured out years ago that it isn't worth equipping hornet strike if you have secondary merciless because of diminishing returns, on glory you can inherit secondary merciless from your equipped secondary and get another hornet strike type buff from Jade's 2, making it double not worth it to equipped hornet strike. Anemic agility is better for heat inheritance DOT stacking which leads to slightly less burst DPS but higher overall DPS
@user-jm8sy5ox2j I didn't know about merciless getting carried over. I think anemic might still be worse but I'll have to redo the math on. In terms of heat stacking, it is not better. You get more heat procs but less values on those heat procs. The dps you are outputting multiplied by the status chance multiplied by the heat weighting and then multiplied by heat % is what the heat DoT dps is. Its different for debuffing statuses like viral magnetic and corrosive because they don't care about the damage that the bullet that procced it did, but heat does.
@@user-jm8sy5ox2ji don't think you're right about the sec Merciless carring over. Secondary outburst 100%, but merciless interaction seems far fetched.
Unless it changed in the most recent hotfix, it was working just fine last night on the hotfix which fixed the operation drop table when I was doing some personal testing to figure out how she plays. Note that her 1 does heat damage directly and does not apply a heat status (this appears to be how it's intended to function).
@@GrimroseNoctisyea, it's like group mods like umbra mods for example where if you have all on your group mods in tha case umbra mods all get there effect doubled
Cascadia flare doesn't or shouldn't carry over. Even if it shows it procing it doesn't give you the extra dmg. It hasn't for other exalted but it wouldn't be strange if the jade update messed that up.
This is a common misconception about Flare, you will STACK flare from other sources of heat but the damage still only applies to the secondary its actually on
One hidden passive about jade is that stalker won’t and will not harm his wife😅 Man comes at you once spawned he like hey love I’m out peace😂 he’s words - Neverrrr Edit: Can’t wait to see if DE takes Jade Kid and turn him or her into a adult to make a Warframe I’m curious what type of a frame their kid would be? 🧐
Another frame with a half-decent attempt at a defense strip. I don't know whether to feel ecstatic because it means I am still a Bolts enjoyer for life or sad because it should probably be distributed more often
Regarding Archon Intensify, it should also work if your teammates heal from your 1, similar to Wisp. With two auras you have capacity so it seems like a reasonable option, or use Precion or Umbral, all seem fine imo.
Im thinking about helminthing off her 1 for roar. Not in every loadout, but in 1. She hits such high strength with her 2, i feel like its worth it at least in 1 config
Regarding Arcane Precision: the damage part of it works with her 4, but her exalted can not trigger it (tested this extensively). If you trigger it with primary or secondary before popping into 4 it carries over, but as it's only 12sec it's quite inconvenient particularly if you move around a lot.
Why make the special polearm Zaw for this build instead going with Korumm? It has a forced electricity proc on its block move aswell, for melee influence.
Wait... Is damage reduction calculated differently than I thought? I'll use an example of how I think it's calculated so you all can correct me if it is wrong... •Let's say we're doing 1,000 damage to shields (shields now having base 50% and now also benefit from DR unless I'm wrong about that too. If so, just substitute with 300 armor for same effect to health) • Max Adaptation stacks (90%DR) • Aerodynamic (Pretend we are in the air for the 24%DR) • And just Boreal's Hatred (Only 20%DR while in air) Would it apply as so... 1,000 - 90%(Adaptation) = 100 100 - 50%(Armor/Shield) = 50 50 - 24%(Aerodynamics) = 38 38 - 20%(Boreal's Hatred) = 30.4 Rounded down would give a total of 30 damage. (Also sorry if my matb is off I did this all in my head.)
@@mayhemivory5730 Alright, thank you. When I checked the wiki it seemed to have a whole equation for how to do it but I'm glad to know my dumbed down version works just as well 😄
Her second ability do not snapshot correctly srength increase, if you happen to change buffs and the strength increase has expired, you lose the strength increase
It snapshots the buff when you GET the buff. If you rotate off it, it is applying a new buff each time. You can even see the buffs going on and off in the survival demo when he points it out.
I am slowly coping with the fact that none of the reviewers I follow are suggesting topaz archon shards but I still want to try with 5 of them. For now with 2, I'm getting to the orange crits half the time. Still might be less DPS than this vid's build. What are your opinions?
Given her extremely low 15% crit chance and 2x multiplier, I think most people just aren’t bothering; especially when ability strength does so much more.
Crit stacking past yellow is usually not that big of a damage increase, especially when going to red. Even still, I think if you push to orange, it's not worth all those orange shards, and probably won't be more DPS
Our build is very…very similar. Except I have a little more duration and a little less range. And I’m using molt efficiency just for a little extra duration for energy…not that it’s needed at all. Trying to figure out a fashion I like for her that keeps the bright green energy though because…jade light. She’s fun with archon stretch and diriga also, with the little clone bond.
Does the snapshotted strength on her 4 stay even if you refresh her 2 toggled on weapon damage? Or do I have to go out of her flight to get the strength bonus again when I have to refresh her 2?
Its a snapshot, it stays until the ability is turned off. Otherwise switching the 2 to weapon damage would already lower its strength. It might still be worth recasting the 4 though for molt augmented and other conditionals to apply.
I put roar on her one, faction mod and hornet strike over anemic and the new status one, 2 red crit tau, 1 orange crit tau, one ability strength tau, 1 energy effectivness tau. I dont use the alt fire, just stay in her 4 and im hitting average 500-700k, with procs from arcane precision and the +750 matching status damage secondary arcane on crits im hitting 2-3mil per attack with the basic attack from her 4.
Also side note, use the damage type the enemies are weak against +primed heat. Huge bonus damage there. And amalgam furax mod for secondary for 45% fire rate to secondaries.
I mean at that point, remove her 4 and build mostly into strength. You‘ll be relying on her 2 and her 3, and using her 1 only to keep up her 2. Toss out Archon Vitality and all the airtime mods. Take your pick of how to survive. -> gun platform with defense strip, damage buff and slow
My friend said that Jade supports like how a nuclear bomb cleans a house
That's pretty much every warframe. xD
"DPSing is mitigating future damage" -Jocat
Yeah, I cleaned the house.
Off the fucking map!
So basically barely at all?
No that's Styanax.
Jade support is much more passive.
Only DE could tell us we’re getting a support and deliver an AC130.
"When we said support, we meant air support."
@@MaraW1832 Can't wait for the Scout Warframe that has an artillery battery and is performing recon by fire lol
Jade's 4 is almost everything I wish they would make Hildryn's be.
Exactly
yeah 😔
Hopefully now that jade is out DE learns from how positive jade is received and give hildryn an inaros style rework where it’s a rework without actually changing the abilities too much cause I love hildryn too 😁
Let us cast pillage
@@securatyyy honestly my thoughts would be make balefire 10x stronger as it’s the only weapon you can use while in her 4 give hildryn 2 of them as that’s what’s on screen when flying even though you fire only 1 replace haven with something let us cast pillage in the air and honestly let us travel faster considering we’re using small jet packs to fly
Also something you and other Yters seemed to miss which is fine because it’s not in her tool tips just the patch notes. Her 3 once it’s stripped armor starts rapidly stacking heat. So if you prime with heat inherit. You can get upwards of 20 heat stacks within seconds.
no it doesnt do that. what? it applies one heat stack (two with archon vitality) when an enemy's armor is fully stripped and then never again.
@scatological2538 and then more for the next guy and then the next guy then the next guy. It's fine to not understand. But you can physically see it in the game.
Helminth ability useful!
@@TH3H3LLR41S3R no?? it stays at 1 heat proc after stripping armor (2 with archon vitality) no matter what
@@TH3H3LLR41S3R holy fuck i just realized you're homestuck
“If you don’t have augur reach and stretch then you’re gonna have a bad time, and that’s good.”
I love when my adhd does this.
*Mogolovonio starts playing*
She is what i imagine biblically accurate angels to be like
Nowhere near enough eyes...
@@leor.sanders5852act like*
Pregnant?
I gotta hand it to Digital Extremes, Pregnant Seraphim themed Warframe was not on my bingo card.
@@runawaycactuar7842 Pregante!
Man, I really feel like I'm not sure how to build anything anymore. Suddenly full armor strip isn't 100% mandatory on everything, the other statuses have all kinds of benefits, slash+viral got effectively nerfed by the increased health pools...
It's fun having less of an obvious meta, but it's also a little dizzying having so many options.
Right? Now I have to replan my builds. Again.
No...slash+viral got BUFFED by the bigger health pools, since viral cuts enemy HP in half.
Unfortunately Viral is even more of a requirement than it used to be in the very high levels(1k+), because enemy HP balloons even faster.
@@Prophes0r Viral isn't the thing that got weaker. Slash is.
Enemy health of 1000, reduce by 50% is 500, slash proc of 100 means 5 ticks to kill.
Enemy health of 2000, reduce by 50% is 1000, slash proc of 100 means 10 ticks to kill.
Meanwhile, dramatically lower armor reduction means, in the absence of full armor stripping, every other kind of damage got dramatically more powerful than it was before.
So the outcome was:
Against fully stripped armor, every kind of damage except viral got weaker.
Against even a couple points of armor, slash got much weaker that it was and everything else got much stronger than it was.
@@M0du5Pwn3n5 Sure...but we never ADD slash to weapons.
Further, The slash status effect "Bleed" ignores armor. So while the attack itself does less damage, the status will always be doing the same. Which is why slash was used. You could be hitting for 5 damage and getting 2k bleed ticks.
You can't compare IPS the same way as an added elemental. It's just there.
@@Prophes0r Uh...Hunter Munitions was probably the single most meta mod in the game...
And yes, I realize it ignores armor. That was my entire point. Ignoring armor became less powerful, while health pools increased. Think in terms of EHP %. Health pools increased and it made slash do less EHP % per tick than before, meanwhile every damage that was affected by armor now does dramatically more EHP % damage than before against even lightly armored targets.
you were at 8 days when i left the stream how are you at 18 days💀
Nice to see someone use Boreal and Aviator, I do so on Titania now that Strength is so easy to get and Im fairly unkillable in any content
Aviator i get, the Boreal when you have no Adaptation i do not ... why stack more additive reduction with more "when in flight" mods instead of taking another multiplicative layer in either Adaptation or even Armor ... adding Boreals into the mix reduces the damage taken by 18% at two stacks (taking away one frame slot and one weapon slot) when taking into account the Aviator and aerodynamic where Adaptation or any armor mod would have much higher effect on total EHP than Boreals even with the boost to shields
@@Asghaad I use the exilus slot one, not the one he uses in the video, and while I didnt mention it, I do use Adaptation
@@Asghaad you also get Titania's passive damage reduction while airborne, and so on. It comes out way higher than I think you realize, it's about 95% DR consistently, and a single Augur mod anywhere gives the shield meta just enough to get out of sticky situations.
I also tend to run the Operator arcane that gives a bunch of health when you transfer in, so my 'Oh Shi-!' response time is quick enough to Transference out of my frame while moving, which launches my Drifter mad far in one direction, then hopping back in Titania gives me HP back.
Instead of an essay, maybe go give it a try and if you dont like it, okie dokie.
@@Asghaad Jade is fragile and doesn't generally take enough hits to really build Adaptation, so she prefers the upfront damage mit.
@@TraehderettahS sigh ... i have been using Titania for years now and Adaptation + Aviator was all i ever needed for Steel Path, SP Circuit, Archon hunts or Vault ...
which is why i know slapping all those DR mods with diminishing returns due to additive stacking is BAD and the build would work way better with Adaptation OR Umbral Fiber in that slot giving the frame way higher EHP than 60% shield mod and 18% DR
DE really fused Trinity, Equinox, Wisp and Titania, good lord. I'm definitely here for it.
Im actually gonna log in and get her, this seems like my new support frame.
I'm not seeing the trinity or equinox but I can see the other 2 but I do have to say I'm not a fan of how jade flys I much prefer titanias style.
Also jade keeps rubbing her stomach like she's pregnant which brings up all kinda od messed up questions about how this death machine was made 😱
@permeus2nd SPOILERS AHEAD. I hate to be that guy but if you do the quest you'd know she is pregnant
@@permeus2nd The armor strip, and visual identity for Trinity, and the power strength and slow is very in line with Equinox, as is the ability to dip back and forth between helping to keep allies alive or mow down enemies depending on which you wanna prioritize
@@permeus2nddid you happen to play the quest?
@@permeus2ndyou can always use a different animation for her, that’s what I did because the belly rubbing threw me off a bit
Many thanks brozime, you helped me solve the "not quite right" feeling of my build!
some notes on her 4th alt fire
it doesnt take base dmg or multishot
yeah even her own buff doesnt work on it apperently
but i have seen people say it does work with her 4 alt fire
also jade wedding dress
stalker black suit
i called it
See if you can spot the moment someone shoves $300 into the streamathon timer!
14:50?
Can't wait to see how high it is on Saturday lol.
Petition to put the stream timer in the top middle so we can see at least some of your UI.
Or add it as an overlay between the video recording and the stream?
Honestly there is NO REASON to ever have any of that Twitch crap on a TH-cam video.
Just record it earlier in the chain of overlays. Done.
can't wait for jade prime.
(not that jade prime would make any sense story wise???)
the devs said they will make primes for every frame even if it doesnt make sense
@@stormnexusfeild wish it stopped people from yapping about rev prime or xaku prime. oh well
New Simulacrum arena? I'm way too excited about this.
That one came out about 6 months ago with Whispers in The Walls.
@@Prophes0rOh😅
Someone needs to get trialing Jade's helminth on Mesa that could be pretty strong
That's a cool idea, gaze of death
Remember when Stynax played exactly like this then they nerfed him? Couple of years ago this was an unacceptable play style.
Does get boring real quick though.
funny considering saryn revenant and mesa exist.
Garuda was doing the exact same thing Styanax was doing at the same time and didn't get touched because Styanax was influenced by usage rates... on a frame given to *everyone* for free.
I'm gonna wait a couple of weeks before actually deciding to commit to this frame, specially after the whole Dante situation
@@l3fari0us42Dante was far overturned in a way that Jade is not. She’s strong, but not massively so like Dante was (and still is)
@@l3fari0us42You know. The Dante situation used to be the norm before DE got content making B tier frames for 3 years straight.
Well, at absolute minimum it is nice to have a frame with a truely unique and new build.
Normalize not helminthing every Warframe just cause
You can also res allies with her 3 by looking at friends
Man.. imagine if Exalted's had Arcane slots
DE is afraid of what would happen SMH
I used Seismic Bond in my build video on my companion, the extra 30% efficiency is quite nice, might want to try it out! Great video btw
I will ask, why this new frame flies so elegantly but Titania's flight still looks like a dumb fly crashing against every wall ever??
Think about it shes just a butterfly not an angel. I dont imagine a butterfly being that intelligent.
If you wanna get technical about it, it's because they made Jade new flying animations while Titania uses the usual Archwing animations (which are quite old now). Otherwise, controlling them feels the same. The zoom out helps the player control Jade because they can see the walls they are near whereas Titania shrinks you AND makes it harder to control because you're still moving at the same or faster speed than when you're normal sized.
@thatonepenguinperson618 and let's be real - Titania is SUPPOSED to feel ultra fiddly calling for higher skill ceiling, because she's ond of the three fastest overall movement potential frames in the game. Her augs lean into it so hard.
Cause Jade is slow
so cool watching him do this off the cuff live
I love her 3 cause the eyes look really cool
Only started playing like 2 days ago and I NEEEEED IT!!!!!
I hope you do a refresh build on the new Frost changes and cold changes....i know u have like 5000 vids on frost BUT i feel the update vid now is needed to understand the changes better since they seem.more significant
YES I NEEDED TO HEAR YOU TALK ABOUT JADE
The only thing i would say about not using hornet strike on her is the defense boost is probably the most important overall and you have to deselect that weapon damage buff one to swap to the shield one, thus doing much less damage. You can always switch back once your shields are recharged but thats a lot of extra micromanaging
The defense buff is the least useful. Most people don't bother switching off the Strength or Damage buff depending on team comp.
I will definitely try this build with combat discipline and avenger where brief respite and molt augmented is. I would be ecstatic if that works.
I am also using the secondary outburst with ceramic dagger from the Mesa build almost a year ago. I haven't been so excited to try out different builds for a warframe for so long.
Just know that they patched our secondary kills being able to proc gun and blade combo building. You will have to kill with your primary to build the combo meter now.
@@yofolkdem1256 latron incarnon my beloved
@@dubborino979 I use that on Mesa too, turn the Contious Manual fire setting and it goes crazy.
It does work. But it is less useful overall because that power strength is useful for more than just doing crits.
Why would you not rempver her 1st ability? Its an INCREDIBLY weak heal, Weak heat damage, all it does is spread judgments bit her 4th ability already does that inherent and taking off her 3 is insane to me but i get different people build differently
Great video. The thing I love about her is that she is a fantastic damage frame but also a really strong well rounded support. So if you want to support, but still have great killing potential she is perfect.
No use Hornet strike, her primary fire can dps over 500k with just basic crits before any ability buffs go active.
I'm an old player coming back to the game and on my first day back i got 75% off on plat.
i'm gonna buy some of these harder to get mods haha.
I have had some energy issues when on a more spread out map or when having to move between different objectives.
Edit: Mesa Lite
I love this cuz they keep with the theme I'm going to keep her secondary to be that tome so it's like she's carrying around her holy book and I'm going to use Tome mods that will pretty much buff everything she does when she uses the alt fire. 😅 I'm so excited for this I wish I had the headpiece that you have though but I missed out on it because that's the coolest halo effect she could probably get but I'm sure that eventually they'll release one I like more. She has been my favorite design Warframe behind Dante Dante was me finally getting a mage frame black I want it I just wish Dante was female. But I'll settle for a frame who can support and deal damage like wisp the only reason I don't play with because she's way too popular for my liking but she is the only frame that had a witch skin and it was so hard to not just play her and buy it. I do hate though that the ranged weapon the stalker is using in the quest does not actually exist I thought it was going to be her signature weapon because of how it looked but I guess it's just the skin for scythe weapons which is unfortunate because if it could shoot range I would use it on her just so I could use melee while flying from a distance but I think I'm just going to give her any of the range to melee weapons that has an incarnate form
Good idea
I havnt played in 3 or 4 years lol all i have are the basic mods plus corrupted o and umbral mods
Growing Power gets triggered by Jades 4. Its a nice little boost in ability strength :)
hey I'm pretty sure that passive energy regen doesn't work while you're in your 4
could you you do a jade build for us returning vets of warframe cause last time i was playing was when sevagoth came out, I infished all the new stories but not high enough to do archon shards, and i dont think i have those same mods as you have, , maybe like a budget build I could use in nightfall missions, umm regular story ect, cause im not even good enough for steel path yet.
If its umbral use normal if its archon use normal
They seriously need to rework the archon mods... most of them are stuck with an unfortunate set of conditions that almost never come up....
think flow is the only one i feel needs change on heal on elec proc from ability and if a ability deals toxin is all usable just the kill with cold never happens imo
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Just like half the Incarnon geneses perks
@darkumineru1681 The heal doesn't work unless you lose health.... the electric one is OK as dirga supplements the toxin one directly competes with the heat one as it isn't effective on anything but exalted weapons and molt... the heat one is actually good. I'm not a huge fan of it being on vitality, but it's fine. cold one has 2 frames that could use it(frost and yareli), but its low values make it negligible.
@@sh0shin naw those are neat tools. utility weapons are actually incredibly cool.
Did you time that Intro with Jade's Idle Animation? Beautiful!
Is Galvanized Shot not worth on Glory? Or does it like, not work properly?
I like her but I play her as support and not Apache attack helicopter haha
Can her music be turned off?
Ok seriously, why the fuck are you running Brief Respite on the DR Heal frame? Literally all of your other suggestions are better. Corrosive Projection because partial strip is actually viable now, Combat Discipline because you have really good self-heal and with your DR arent really in any danger of dying any time soon, Energy Siphon or Dreamers Bond for some mild team support, Growing Power because its pretty much impossible NOT to inflict a status with your 4 alt-fire. Ready Steel with the Pistol Arcane that consumes Combo to give a weapon buff. I am fairly sure fucking Rejuvenation would be better than Brief Respite.
14:22 i might be wrong, but his camera is NOT seeing ANY enemies, not even their heads yet damage numbers??? if that is true, then prepare for a LOS change/fix on her
I might be wrong, but I think this should be intentional. They did make the LoS more forgiving and consistent again with the Jade update.
I swapped one of the heat mods on glory to the radiation mod it kept damage the same but with murmur and tau it is more effective than just heat it really didnt do well with murmur but the one change made a world of difference still get all the heat procs but the rads really helped .... aaaand it added another 40% to rof which turns her into a laser beam then have wisp in the party ..... might make server start lagging but its hilarious jade go brrr like mesa
I ended up using a build p similar to this (with the aero/avi/boreal synergy) on Titania as well. paired with a polearm that has the other boreal mod and a high strength thorns she becomes nigh unkillable in razorwing ime. makes sense that jade would use a similar setup
Is the elementalist mods even good?
Heard that if stalker invades while you’re playing Jade, he just leaves automatically. Is that true? I haven’t tested it yet
Yes, he says never and dips.
@@welds8424 that explains why when he spawned on me, he didn’t attack. I was farming relics and was getting ready to attack and he just dipped and left a Dread bp
Hilarious
didn't think she would still have the belly when you rebuild her after the quest
Yeah.. it doesn't really make sense. Doesn't make sense that hunhow would have a blueprint for her either. The whole quest kind of makes no sense
That's part of DE's whole "I have no idea how to write story or do continuity" crap.
Just like how my Excal Umbra is made from moldy scraps of Pizza and a rusty oven, but still has memories and agency because DE can't figure out a better way to move that story along.
Or how DE constantly revers to our frames with a gender, despite us 3d printing them with snot and circuits.
(The original progenitor frames made from people could arguably have a gender, but ours sure as hell don't.)
Why is Pistol Amp bad, is it because it's additive with her other weapon buff?
Yes I believe so, overall not that much damage in the grand scheme, better off with other auras unless you are purely maxing out the damage
Her 3 looks cool so I'll always keep it.
I cant support taking the energy off of green
And reddit says this frame is meh at best... 😂
My huge hype for her abilities and pre-spoiler design was heavily marred by my irrational discomfort with anything about pregnancy. Her kit seems really solid... I wonder how many months/years until she gets a deluxe skin.
Same I like the frame but I can’t get behind her being pregnant I understand why it’s there but it just makes me feel a little uncomfortable
9 months probably
All i can suggest is equipping a different animation set.
But yea, I really can‘t wait to get a skin for her, even if just to look more awesome!
I understand this is your particular feelings. And you’re totally fine for having them.
But I don’t think DE is wrong for doing it. It makes another group of people feel included in their games. Nothing wrong with being a mother. Some people feel uncomfortable with disabled people or people of different types, doesn’t mean they shouldn’t be included.
Hornet strike replacing anemic agility is a net increase in damage.
Considering base damage increases and fire rate increases, your build gets 10.545x damage, whereas replacing anemic with hornet you get 14.56x damage. This is not even considering wyrm buffing fire rate, further diluting that stat.
Hornet strike doesn’t affect the alt fire explosion with her exalted for some reason, then again neither does anemic agility
You are forgetting the diminishing return effect from hornet strike. We have figured out years ago that it isn't worth equipping hornet strike if you have secondary merciless because of diminishing returns, on glory you can inherit secondary merciless from your equipped secondary and get another hornet strike type buff from Jade's 2, making it double not worth it to equipped hornet strike.
Anemic agility is better for heat inheritance DOT stacking which leads to slightly less burst DPS but higher overall DPS
@user-jm8sy5ox2j I didn't know about merciless getting carried over. I think anemic might still be worse but I'll have to redo the math on.
In terms of heat stacking, it is not better. You get more heat procs but less values on those heat procs. The dps you are outputting multiplied by the status chance multiplied by the heat weighting and then multiplied by heat % is what the heat DoT dps is. Its different for debuffing statuses like viral magnetic and corrosive because they don't care about the damage that the bullet that procced it did, but heat does.
@@user-jm8sy5ox2ji don't think you're right about the sec Merciless carring over. Secondary outburst 100%, but merciless interaction seems far fetched.
Secondary Merciless never carried over to frame abilities
I’m confused on your glory build. I have copied it but I’m only getting 4.17 fire rate and not 5.17
I did the same thing. Also the build he has for Jade doesn't match either. The numbers just don't match
Reinforced Bond
why not use the furax amalgation
Heard from another content creator that Archon Vitality is bugged on her currently and doesn’t proc. Fyi
Unless it changed in the most recent hotfix, it was working just fine last night on the hotfix which fixed the operation drop table when I was doing some personal testing to figure out how she plays. Note that her 1 does heat damage directly and does not apply a heat status (this appears to be how it's intended to function).
It was working fine an hour ago
Did you test with her weapons? Apparently some magical effect happens when you use all three but it's not spelled out and I haven't noticed anything.
It just buffs their group passives
iirc: Evensong gets 70% MS, Cantare gets 40% reload, Harmony gets 60% Status Duration
@@GrimroseNoctisyea, it's like group mods like umbra mods for example where if you have all on your group mods in tha case umbra mods all get there effect doubled
Edit: Was confused about Cascadia Flare proc'ing while using glory, I stand corrected that it does not actually apply regardless of UI
Cascadia flare doesn't or shouldn't carry over. Even if it shows it procing it doesn't give you the extra dmg. It hasn't for other exalted but it wouldn't be strange if the jade update messed that up.
This is a common misconception about Flare, you will STACK flare from other sources of heat but the damage still only applies to the secondary its actually on
Only Secondary Outburst works that way.
One hidden passive about jade is that stalker won’t and will not harm his wife😅
Man comes at you once spawned he like hey love I’m out peace😂 he’s words - Neverrrr
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Can’t wait to see if DE takes Jade Kid and turn him or her into a adult to make a Warframe
I’m curious what type of a frame their kid would be? 🧐
Where is ur energy coming from?
It’s so funny that her survivability is kinda lackluster. Really lore accurate i like it xD
LMAO
Another frame with a half-decent attempt at a defense strip. I don't know whether to feel ecstatic because it means I am still a Bolts enjoyer for life or sad because it should probably be distributed more often
Regarding Archon Intensify, it should also work if your teammates heal from your 1, similar to Wisp. With two auras you have capacity so it seems like a reasonable option, or use Precion or Umbral, all seem fine imo.
Im thinking about helminthing off her 1 for roar. Not in every loadout, but in 1. She hits such high strength with her 2, i feel like its worth it at least in 1 config
Regarding Arcane Precision: the damage part of it works with her 4, but her exalted can not trigger it (tested this extensively). If you trigger it with primary or secondary before popping into 4 it carries over, but as it's only 12sec it's quite inconvenient particularly if you move around a lot.
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2 umbral fiber is mad
you should try using the new moon surv cuz its lvl 200 and have different enemy types
Due note: Arcane precision has to be triggered with a weapon, as her Glory cant headshot
Are the Elementalist mods Roar math or Serration math
Neither afaik. They should be Pageflight math and only increase the damage of status procs 🤔
mine does so much less damage than yours without the strength shards but all the same mods
Airburst has an augment for 2ndary damage.
So...make friends with a Zephyr?
Why remove genuine passive utility to add...10% more overall damage?
This is the best build ive seen so far, excellent!
I’ve done 50 plus runs on the new game mode and still can’t get that Pistol Elementalist to drop. RNG has not been kind to me.
hey I've got spares, what's ur ingame name?
@@aw0573 it’s K9 Lancia. I don’t have cross saved turned on though so if you do I won’t be able to trade for it unfortunately.
@@Jimmy-3294 ohh ok. I’m on pc. AW_0
@@aw0573 I believe we can still trade ( I’m on Xbox) if you didn’t choose to do cross save either.
@@Jimmy-3294 I did do cross save.. x,) oh well, was worth a shot
Why make the special polearm Zaw for this build instead going with Korumm? It has a forced electricity proc on its block move aswell, for melee influence.
nvm I tried Korumm again to remind myself why someone would choose to build a zaw instead. I get it
Watching this while only having a single part's worth of motes.
Wait... Is damage reduction calculated differently than I thought? I'll use an example of how I think it's calculated so you all can correct me if it is wrong...
•Let's say we're doing 1,000 damage to shields (shields now having base 50% and now also benefit from DR unless I'm wrong about that too. If so, just substitute with 300 armor for same effect to health)
• Max Adaptation stacks (90%DR)
• Aerodynamic (Pretend we are in the air for the 24%DR)
• And just Boreal's Hatred (Only 20%DR while in air)
Would it apply as so...
1,000 - 90%(Adaptation) = 100
100 - 50%(Armor/Shield) = 50
50 - 24%(Aerodynamics) = 38
38 - 20%(Boreal's Hatred) = 30.4
Rounded down would give a total of 30 damage. (Also sorry if my matb is off I did this all in my head.)
No, that how it works.
I thought thats exactly what he said? Your own calculation amounts to about ~97% DR.
@@mayhemivory5730 Alright, thank you. When I checked the wiki it seemed to have a whole equation for how to do it but I'm glad to know my dumbed down version works just as well 😄
Her second ability do not snapshot correctly srength increase, if you happen to change buffs and the strength increase has expired, you lose the strength increase
It snapshots the buff when you GET the buff.
If you rotate off it, it is applying a new buff each time.
You can even see the buffs going on and off in the survival demo when he points it out.
I am slowly coping with the fact that none of the reviewers I follow are suggesting topaz archon shards but I still want to try with 5 of them. For now with 2, I'm getting to the orange crits half the time. Still might be less DPS than this vid's build.
What are your opinions?
Given her extremely low 15% crit chance and 2x multiplier, I think most people just aren’t bothering; especially when ability strength does so much more.
Crit stacking past yellow is usually not that big of a damage increase, especially when going to red. Even still, I think if you push to orange, it's not worth all those orange shards, and probably won't be more DPS
Our build is very…very similar. Except I have a little more duration and a little less range. And I’m using molt efficiency just for a little extra duration for energy…not that it’s needed at all. Trying to figure out a fashion I like for her that keeps the bright green energy though because…jade light.
She’s fun with archon stretch and diriga also, with the little clone bond.
How is it?
I hope you'll make a video on the damage changes and your thoughts on the new status procs, etc.
Sorry unrelated but how did you get that wyrm prime skin, I'm just getting back into the game and have never seen that
It was for the Chinese New Year.
Important question - is Jade fun to play?
Archangel? More like Biblically accurate Angel.
Archangel is a class of those angels.
Not enough eyes, too humanoid and pregnant
1 forma for archon vitality and everything fits perfectly
this was a bad time to take a break from warframe...
Cant wait to see the Refreshes for Frost and Ember
Does the snapshotted strength on her 4 stay even if you refresh her 2 toggled on weapon damage? Or do I have to go out of her flight to get the strength bonus again when I have to refresh her 2?
Its a snapshot, it stays until the ability is turned off. Otherwise switching the 2 to weapon damage would already lower its strength.
It might still be worth recasting the 4 though for molt augmented and other conditionals to apply.
I put roar on her one, faction mod and hornet strike over anemic and the new status one, 2 red crit tau, 1 orange crit tau, one ability strength tau, 1 energy effectivness tau. I dont use the alt fire, just stay in her 4 and im hitting average 500-700k, with procs from arcane precision and the +750 matching status damage secondary arcane on crits im hitting 2-3mil per attack with the basic attack from her 4.
Also side note, use the damage type the enemies are weak against +primed heat. Huge bonus damage there. And amalgam furax mod for secondary for 45% fire rate to secondaries.
Do you have a build for people who prefer to use regular weapons instead of exalted abilities?
I mean at that point, remove her 4 and build mostly into strength.
You‘ll be relying on her 2 and her 3, and using her 1 only to keep up her 2.
Toss out Archon Vitality and all the airtime mods. Take your pick of how to survive.
-> gun platform with defense strip, damage buff and slow
I don't like how she flies. Too many inputs to go up and down. She should have the same flight controls as Titania.
Yeah, I have no idea why they created a brand new flight system when a perfectly good one already exists
Does Archon intensify not fit quite well because of her 1 healing everyone?
I'm also using combat disciplin as well as arcane avenger
If you use CD and Avenger you can use Archon Intensify.
Its just a question of how comfortable you consider it to use personally.
Combat Discipline + Avenger is the only time you're gonna consider Archon Intensify, you just gotta be okay with maintaining the buff.
hi brozime :)