Hamburg to Stockholm by night train - NEW Euronight service
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 มิ.ย. 2024
- Hi everybody,
FIRST ON TH-cam! I rode the train just yesterday and arrived this morning in Stockholm! It's been a whole race to deliver this video folks but here we are, the very first Euronight train between Hamburg and Stockholm - A premiere on TH-cam
Enjoy!
- TRIP INFORMATION -
RECORDED ON THE INAUGURAL RUN - 1ST SEPTEMBER 2022
Railroad company: SJ
Train type : UIC-X, Vectron/Traxx/RC4
From : Hamburg-Altona to Stockholm Central station
Time : 12 hours
Price : Around 79€ for a couchette accommodation
Many thanks to @seat61 for inviting me on this ride
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00:00 : Intro
01:40 : Hamburg-Altona
02:27 : The other Hamburg-Stockholm
02:52 : The AutoReizeZug
03:16 : The very FIRST Euronight to Stockholm
04:21 : Man in Seat 61 saved the day
04:59 : Vectron
05:55 : New livery
06:07 : Departure from Hamburg
06:34 : From the outside
07:02 : Celebrating a new era
07:51 : Compartment tour
09:15 : Making our way North
09:54 : Danish border
10:14 : Nighty night
10:25 : Mid roll ads
10:15 : From the outside 2
11:17 : Good morning from Sweden
11:35 : Feedback
12:04 : Fresh air
12:42 : Breakfast
13:04 : X2000 flying by
13:27 : Top speed
13:43 : Swedish countryside
13:58 : Toilets Time
14:21 : Walkthrough of the train
15:36 : Södertälje
15:53 : New high speed line
16:03 : Approaching Stockholm
16:36 : Stunning arrival
17:02 : Conclusion
17:40 : Outro
This looks great. I'm just annoyed about one thing. When this was proposed and tendered, the plan was for there to be not just one, but two different night train services. One from Stockholm to Hamburg, but also another one from Malmö to Brussels! But during the bidding process, SJ was the only operator to place a bid on the Hamburg train, while the Brussels trains received zero bids, because the regulations in Germany were too problematic to work with, due to them illegalising long distance subsidised trains, and requiring that any train in Germany above a certain distance operate on a commercial basis. And frankly as a Copenhagener I'm still mad that we won't have a night train to Brussels, we really need a convenient link to the Benelux, whether it be Amsterdam, Brussels, or any other city in that part of Europe.
Marja
That sux, maybe the car mafia made them make that rule.
as a belgian i totally agree! we were really looking forward to this train. we love the scandinavian countries and it sucks not to have a good train connection to get there. i read that the reason for not getting any bids was that belgium and germany do not subsidies these trains, where denmark and sweden (who see these trains as a public service, which they clearly are) do subsidies them. since the train from hamburg to stockholm only has a small part in germany (so only a little part would not be subsidised) it was still workable to do this. the train from brussels to malmõ would have a too long part that would not be subsidised, making it almost impossible to be profitable. besides that, at the time of the biddings, we were without government in belgium ... and by the time we finally had a government it was to late for them to still do something about this (which was kind of the plan). still hoping for the future though ...
@@sanstoop Yeah. I know it's not as direct for Belgians, but one route which could be served by private operators with relative ease is Copenhagen to Amsterdam. The air route between the 2 is already one of the busiest in Europe, and such a train would spend much less time in germany. European sleeper, as well as a new startup named turquoise trains both have the route as a potential possibility down the line, but for them, the biggest issue is actually finding a partner in Denmark. Currently if you want to run private trains through Denmark, you pretty much only have 1 option and that's hectorrail, who ever since coming under new management, have been a lot less cooperative with new startup rail operators. So Denmark really needs more companies with electric locomotives ready for use in Denmark, and who are willing and able to lease them out to private train operators.
Can you explain the problem, as you see it? What is the problem with requiring trains to run on a commercial basis? Does OBB run night trains between these countries?
7:05
That whistle! Goosebumps, sheer goosebumps! That is what trains are supposed to be like - grand, soulful, elegant, bewitchingly powerful organ instruments in the cathedral of transport
Yees I love that it still sounds like that on some trains! It’s nice that some sounds from the steam era can still be heard today
I totally agree with your words, you found the right way to express the feeling this video gave me!
@@rosyrose4655
Thank you. I am glad that you feel that way. Everything about trains was so grand back in the day.
@@erike7368
Yeah, I agree! Those were hard days but they were also magical in some ways. So much grander than what we have today.
Well said guys!
In a way, night trains are a remnant of those past times when travelling by train was the most elegant and sophisticated form of transportation.
That's why I'm so excited to learn that (modernised) night trains are returning in many countries of Europe; seeing a night train always evokes the nostalgia of those glorious times of railway history for me.
This gives me hope that someday in the not too distant future I'll be able to travel from southern Sweden to Frankfurt via night train. The distance is perfect for it (5 hours from where I live to Hamburg, 4 hours from Hamburg to Frankfurt) but all night trains in the area tend to have Hamburg as the terminus (or continue towards Berlin).
Just switch to an ICE in Hamburg!
@@jatterhog That's what I do when making that trip today! It'd just be nice to be able to take it as one continuous 12-hour sleeper trip rather than a 10-hour day train trip with a change in Hamburg
@@ArchmageIlmryn det låter ändå som en ganska bra deal, jag som bor i Jämtland behöver ändå ta fakirtåget 591 från Östersund för att hinna med EN… Tidigare var en bra resekombination IC 80/85 till/från Stockholm, nattåg 2/1 till/från Malmö, Öresundståg över bron och sedan DSB till/från Hamburg. Stressigt som fan! Som flygnörd kommer jag nog i första hand välja flyget så länge jag kan dock 😂
There used to be a Night Train between Munich and Copenhagen. That one was amazing.
What a great ride. 🤩
Who else noticed the Citroën DS at the beginning ?
Where is that?
@@pongradmeta9176 At the train station when the cars were waiting in line to get loaded to the neighbouring train.
Great ride? 6 bunks? No catering? No proper sleeper? Which part was great? It would be horrible.
I live in Södertälje! Whenever I've been away and my train rolls into that beautiful view of the ocean with the industry below I am hit with that "ah, I'm home"-feeling. What a feeling to see it featured in a Simply Railway video!!
Simply Railway and the man in seat 61, some of the finest railway sources travelling together!
By the way, these same couchette cars (now over 50 years old) were already used (before rebuilding) in the EC-night Alfred Nobel Hamburg to Oslo and Stockholm back in the 1980s/90s, using two ferries. I'd have to dig out old timetables to compare how the travel times have changed, if at all. MUn cars would be great as they are actually some of the best in terms of passenger comfort (though sadly only 4 prototypes were built by initiative of CIWL, going to NS, ÖBB and then RDC).
Another frontier reached in the exploration of Railscience! Perfect! However, this EuroNight as a very brief spark of hope won't survive the incoming energy crisis in my opinion. We are coming back into the dark ages folks! But perhaps I'm just totally wrong.
@@petrsovicka If energy is the issue, there should be fewer flights and more trains. Short-haul flights such as Hamburg - Stockholm are very energy-inefficient per passenger. The boom of cheap flights is over.
@@petrsovicka Electric trains in Sweden run on wind and hydro power, I don't see the issue here, besides, SJ will run this service during fall, winter and spring (commercially during the summer) under a PSO contract from the Swedish state, so as long as that contract is valid, this service will run
I remember traveling with a group of exchange students from Brussels to Orebro in Sweden in 1987 through Hamburg and on a couple ferries changing trains in Hamburg and Copenhagen. For a young kid from Canada, the idea of a train riding on a ferry blew my mind! Fond memories of rail journeys during my first year in Sweden.
Your trip overview is getting fancier, with the overhead station overview being a big plus! Thank you so much for your continued awesome trip reports!
I'm a fan of those shots! SR has developed so many cool skills.
I agree, you do great work Thibault!
I was on that route back in the 1980s many times. Between my homes in Stockholms and Zürich (with a train change in Altona). This was before the bridges, so it was a ferry between Germany and Denmark and Denmark to Sweden. Hard to sleep through. Why train then on such a long trip? Well, a first-class train was the price of a discounted economy flight, and the train got me hours of work time while the flight did not.
The loco pulling the train in Sweden is always an RC6. The RC4 is not used in passenger service but instead used by Green Cargo for freight service. Sadly don't have any year when SJ sold off their RC4s.
Great to see railway travel experts together, I watch all three of your channels. If only Eurostar and the other operators would dip their toe into overnight travel from London through the Channel Tunnel.
No, let some other train company do this instead. It will introduce some competition which, with the refusal to restart Kent services and the cancellation of the Disney trains is sorely needed.
I've said a few times that configuring some high speed train for overnight service and doing Milan to London in 12 hours (or Rome to London in 15) would be a hit
That's great about Mark Smith. I am a big fan of his and his website and it's nice to know that he's a nice guy!!
Amazing video, and amazing to finally see year-round daily overnight trains to continental Europe again! It might be subsidised by the Swedish state, but we really need a comfortable alternative to flying so bad in times of climate change. I also really hope the Danish railway administration approves the sleepers and coaches as soon as possible, so this awesome train can live up to its full potential
Same. The Danish state is also quite supportive, subsidising it too, despite it not really doing much for them. When they were tendering it, there was also another proposed sleeper train between Malmö/Copenhagen and Brussels, but due to Germany's problematic rules about long distance rail, meant no operators bid for that train. Heck for the Stockholm to Hamburg train, SJ was the only bidder, and that was just because the German bit between Denmark and Hamburg was just small enough to manage, while the other train would've had a route going all the way down to Cologne and from there towards the Belgian border, during all of which they'd have to deal with restrictive german regulations.
They need to apply a heavy carbon price on airlines emissions. That should level the playing field quickly.
My two favourite railway reviewers working together, excellent. Looks like a really good option too.
Nice to see Sweden gething more night trains!🇸🇪
Nice to see more international trains as well.
@@se-kmg355 Although still an annoying Border Control.
Great to see the love with this new train which appears to be exceptional value for money and lots of friendly people
Better? 6 bunks? No catering? No proper sleeper? Which part was better?
Thats the way to travel through modern europe. I never understood why DB cancelled all their nighttrains. Now other operators show how it's done. First ÖBB, now the great SJ. Would like to see more modern, even faster sleeper trains.
And yes... sweden is so beautiful :)
Thanks so much for the video.
Splendid review as always! The differing schedule from the Snalltaget sets this apart, and the 2 coaches on this long distance train is just really funny in appearance, haha.
What a exciting news! It seems much better than Snälltåget train ever before. Thank you for the fastest trip video!
Better? 6 bunks? No catering? No proper sleeper? Which part was better?
Snälltåget is not that bad. Have been on worse trains. But they clearly did not invest that much in re-fitting those old waggons. Of course that was several years back. Travelled last on the Snälltåget 2021. Will travel with the new train in about two weeks - bought the ticket in May for my couchette seat :)
@@xr6lad Hey! The vlogger said the sleeper cars has not been prepared yet. Why don't you think it was not a better choice in the future?
@@iorethofgondor I agree with you. And wish you have a nice trip with the new train!
I love Europe's night trains. When I did my frugal, three-month ramble around Europe in 1978 via Eurail, I often took night trains between two distant cities. That saved time and money. It's an area where train travel is far better than air travel. I would never arrive that rested flying.
Awesome video to see that you catched this train as well! Yesterday I filmed the first train when it departed Stockholm C for Hamburg! Can't wait to get back to film the whole train when it's ready, and hopefully ride it one day! It was fun to see my local surroundings in Södertälje, just around that shore by the little forest, to the right of the harbor cranes at 15:48, is where I live :)
Loved this video and the feelings you was able to transmit us! Great work!
Another great video, Thibault. And the Man in Seat 61, still the godfather!
Les trains de nuit internationaux font vraiment leur retour la🤩
Super vidéo et quel travail monstrueux en seulement quelques heures !
Thanks for taking us along on this historic trip. A great way for me to start a long weekend. (Now I want to go to Sweden!)
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Cool. I travel quite regularly from Southern Germany to Småland and back, this new connection is awesome.
Great video. It is such fun to see different models and styles of trains in Europe!
I find the night trains equal measures exciting and interesting. Way back int the mid sixties ( I was probably 14 years old) I was supremely fortunate to go on a school trip from the Midlands UK to Engelberg in Switzerland. It really did blow my mind. Sleeping on a train in a couchette! A boxed breakfast! The following year the school trip was to Arosa. My memories of both are really good and very clear. Thank you for the first class videos. It's a vacation for my imagination. I keep coming back for more.
Oh man, I wish more trains had that whistle at 7:06
Amazing video! Thanks so much for hurrying it up so we can have it this fresh! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Also, a big thanks to Mark for sharing his cabin. He truly is a gentleman and his know how and experience are really so valuable, his site has helped me a lot planning many trips throughout Europe.
Great tandem guys!
Love the trains of Europe, it is such a lovely way to travel. I just saw the Euronight service listed for the first time so thank you for the insight!
Amazing turnaround time. Great job getting this done in such a short time!
This connection has huuuuge potential. Like they could start with a long train somewhere in germany and split it in Malmö. One half continues to Oslo, the other to Stockholm. All the scandinavian capitals (aside from Helsinki, but that's just Finland being Finland) in one train.
Oslo used to have trains to mainland Europe
Finland is not part of Scandinavia.
@@roger0929 nordics or whatever :D
The issue with operating trains from Western Europe to Finland is the track gauge. Which is built with the same width as the Russian railways. Not to mention the detour to get to Helsinki from lets say Stockholm. So trains between Finland and Scandinavia/Germany is faaar into the future...
@@boffisgd there is plan for Rail Baltica, which will connect Poland with Tallinn via Kaunas and Riga with standard gauge and Estonia and Finland hypothesise a tunnel under the Baltic between them
My friend Malcolm Kenton and I met Mark Smith for lunch when we were in UK in 2018, He took us to a great little country restaurant. Mark is good people.
Wow, this was really fast editing, good job, thank you!
Great to see this new night service from Hamburg to Stockholm. Any time a new night service is launched I do a little happy dance inside my head! Also very cool that Man In Seat 61 and doc7 were on the same train!
Great video thank you ! Helps me plan for my trip ! So excited 🤗🤗🤗🤗
Absolutely good footage about SJ EuroNight!
You've been to amazing places.
Respect from Hungary!
Thanks for the video! Living about half an hour away from the Nässjö station and going the opposite direction, this could be a great option for future train travels, arriving early morning in Hamburg and travelling onwards.
Your video just proves that by train is THE way to travel. Thank you.
I did travel on the Hamburg to Stockholm express in the mid 80s! Journey time was roughly 14 hours (pretty good comparing with the 12 hour trip in this video), via Helsingborg to Helsingor and Rodby Havn to Puttgarden train ferries of course. It was Couchette and sleeping accommodation only, and I recalled grudging paying extra 15 DM or so for the couchette supplement (I was on railpass of course) on the DB blue and beige carriage. Only one service per day. Thankful for bringing back my old memories and I am verifying my old trip with my mid 80s Thomas Cook timetable right now!
we travelled often, at least once a year, in the 70s :)
I remember back in 2013 when I went on an SJ X2000 train to Copenhagen and later changed to the CityNightLine to Cologne. I hope I can do more of these night train across europe in the future! :D Very nice video!
Great video Thibault, many thanks. It's fantastic to see so many night services returning to Europe. Although I much prefer travelling by day, the night services really do provide a valuable service.
Thank you for a great video ! I like the colours of the train, and hope it won’t be too long before more carriages are available.
Sehr schön!!!
Loved this video. Thanks.
Great trip report
Lovely trip train. And the Windows its posible open. Wonderfull. Good made by SJ
Un beau train allemand et belle vidéo j'a adoré merci simplicité railway
That was Excellent !!! That was a class act of Mark...:):):)
You two are like "Batman & Robin"...😂😂😂
I think you your You Tube channels are some of the best out there...😀😀😀
Great video Thibault, & glad Mark was able to help you out. Looks like SJ have got a really good service there, & a quick search shows (delays & connection permitting) I could travel from my home station of Chesterfield (UK) to Stockholm Central in 24 hours & 43 minutes, all by rail!
Thanks for this! I hope to ride this one some day!
Thanks for the report! 🙂
9:20 Wow, that car has got a serious flat spot!
It was really simple railway! Amazing!
Another great video, thank you really enjoyed it. I hope some day to get to Europe and ride these trains.
Not surprised SJ was unable to prepare the inaugural journey in time... Went there a few weeks ago and basically every single train I used had some kind of a problem. Ranging from dirty cars to a complete cancellation of the train without any replacement...
This has nothing to do with SJ though. The sleeping cars are RIC marked and should be able to run anywhere in Europe, but Denmark has it's own seperate rules for trains that cross the Great Belt Tunnel.
@@NerdX151 - and SJ didn't know about this until it was too late to get sleeping cars that are approved for Denmark tunnels? C'mon...
Thank you for the fast edit! This was my Friday evening entertainment :)
Hamburg-Altona is one ugly station building but I kind of like that station with the loading cars. Altona is nice part of Hamburg too.
It's a dream for me to travel by Euro night train ❤️👍
I really enjoy your video
Good stuff!
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The night train to Hamburg is not a present phenomena it exsisted already in the 70's . But people usually forget as it always functioned impecably in connection to trains to Italy.
Very nice video brother ☺️
🤣 the hooter of the train 😂🚂 feels like old day's ❤️ love that and i so much in love with that car motorcycle carier trains in EU .
Nice video !!
I hope this will become a trend in the whole of Europe
Great report, thanks. I hope the revival of night trains in Europe means fewer flights. Train travel is one of life's great delights and a well-organised sleeper berth is ecstasy!
6 bunks? No catering? No proper sleeper? Which part was better? Ummm no. Who is that going to convince to travel on train than a 1 hour flight and sleep in a proper hotel bed?
Thank you for this Trip report! Also nice to see another great train TH-camr doc7AustinDreamliner on the same train! I finally saw how he looks like😃
It's seems so cheap for the time and distance ... thanks for the ride one more time. ... Mark 👍
Fine report, Thibault.
Awesome 👍
Thanks for posting such an enjoyable video. The Orient Express train shows that carriages can have very long lives and still be clean and comfortable and, of course, the longer the life of a coach the lower the carbon footprint.
Nice trip as always Thibault, good to see services expanding!
As for the Couchette cars, I would still like to see something similar in North America, especially on medium distance trains that would be comparable to this...
I have waited for this for five hours now
And I noticed one of your classic Citroen DS’s waiting to board the car train!. 👍🏻🏴
OK! Very interresting!
6:52 i really like the haunting european whistle
Stunning livery. Sorry private Pullman wasn't available. Hamburg station was a bit dull. You and The Man in seat 61 did a nice review.
Thank you Thibault😀💚
I really look forward to take this train!!
Love the new map Animation!
Mark has always been THEEEE MAN. And he never does loo reviews.
the tech side of your videos is getting better and better :)
So super and I hope they get it complete, with en suite rooms. I couldn't travel otherwise.
Train - the best way to travel. Great. !
Those flat wheel sounds are so musical.
Two of my favorite train travelling TH-camrs joining forces. What more can you ask for? Sadly this type of two car trains are common in my home country Romania.hope to see trains make a great comeback here. Greetings and thanks from Timișoara, Romania!
Amazing and more coaches must be added.
Thanks for the trip report! Great news; compared to taking the ferry Kiel-Göteborg you save six hours from Zurich to Helsinki.
However, on arrival to Stockholm, I prefer the right-hand side view on the Gamla old city
Voltages for the route Hamburg Altona Stockholm are 25kv 50hz Padborg to Oresund Bridge 1.8m strip Pantographs 15kv 16/2/3hz Oresund Bridge To Stockholm 15kv 16.7hz Hamburg Altona Padborg 1.95m Pantograph strips Excellent trip report and for the Vectron Baureihe 193 1293 AFB cruise switch is on the left leg panel. Malmö to Stockholm was a SJ Rc locomotive the prototype for Amtrak AEM-7. Amtrak designation for SJ RC was X995. I do see Man in Seat 61 producing his own video on this Trip
and honking is always nice
That two tone horn though followed by an steam engine whistle !
It's great to see more and more Night trains in Europe. Will you ever visit India and see our overnight trains?
Super
Very nice video. I would love to ride it someday.
3 of my favourite travel vlogers on the same train what are the chances, I’m with you it’s nice to see overnight travel picking up again in Europe, now to get my lazy bum out of my comfortable settee and get booking great post
This journey will be even faster and more convenient when the Fehmarn Belt bridge is built from Puttgarden to Rødby.
Good job. Congratulation. Luiz Paulo - Rio de Janeiro - Brasil.
I was gonna comment that you should try X55, X62, ER1 and the refurbished X2 but then saw your Instagram and you’re already off to Norway lmao, enjoy your travels though. The issue with the sleeping cars was actually quite publicised in Swedish press as well btw.
Great viewing from here in NZ..where only Wellington and Auckland have a decent suburban rail system.
In the past 7 years, I have used mainly the 100 km long Wellington >>Masterton line ( ave speed +- 61 km/hr over 95 mins). The trip is city- suburban until you climb slightly up to the Tunnel-- all 8.6 km of it, the a steeper gradient down to the the plain/valley and the remaining 45km. A pleasant relaxing trip with speeds ranging anywhere between 60--85 km/hr, depending on trackwork, and using ex BR Mk 2.E carriages. These have been regauged, of course, plug-doored, excellent lighting with 3 types at once, power points at every seat and Tables...much sought after. Not fast, but comfortable and clean, with very recently renewed upholstery. Very busy on the 3 "workers" trains morning and late afternoon, running from 6-9 carriage consists.
Great video. I hope they will sort out the wagon/bureaucracy issue soon so I can try this stretch as well.
So, two stops in Germany; Berlin and Hamburg, three stops in Danmark; Padborg, Odense and København and then a whole bunch of unnecessary stops in Sweden? Unnecessary such as Lund and Hässleholm (you can go there by local commuter trains within the Scania region from Malmö). Alvesta is a big junction for the Småland region and it also connects Southern Västra Götaland to the line so that stop is a good idea. Imagine that you can go all the way from Narvik in Norway to Berlin in Germany with just one change. Fantastic!
Great video! 👍
Me and my kids would love to do this trip. Catching the train from England to Stockholm when visiting my mum. Train from London to Brussels then train from Brussel to Hamburg and this would be the last change and it'll be fun to practice my German and a bit of Dutch as well. Swedish is my native language